1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we have 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: more reports coming in of a second wave of device 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: explosions targeting Hezbola terrorists in Lebanon. The belief fear not 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: confirmed obviously, but the belief because the Israeli government will 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: never confirm or you know, they never confirmed nor deny 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: these kinds of operations. But that Israel or more specifically Massad, 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: their foreign intelligence service UH, somehow managed to get in 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the supply chain. UH analysts are saying put small amounts 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: of explosives in pagers. Remember back in the nineties, when 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: you either were a doctor or a drug dealer, you 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: had a pager, right, that was the That was the joke, 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: at least you know, doctor or a drug dealer, But 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: that they got into the pagers and they created explosive devices. Clay. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: The devices, it is believed, worked normally until a certain 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: signal or code was given and then they exploded. Initially, 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: people were saying the batteries, they just made the batteries. 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: No, I believe there was, which spell scary to a 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: lot of people because people said, why couldn't they just 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 2: blow up my iPhones? If this is somehow doable. 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: A battery catches on fire and then can combust, but 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: it has to catch on fire first, it doesn't just ignite. 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: There was explosive material, it seems in these pagers and 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: now the second wave of explosions being reported on now 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: are in handheld radios walkie talkies that they were using. 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: So what happened here was that Hesbela operatives decided to 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: get off the cell network. And this is being tied 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: to a high level targeted assassination of a Hesbela leader 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: earlier in this year that they think again, this is 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: what the reports say had to He was basically tracked 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: by his cell phone and they managed to find out 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: who this guy was, where he was and then boom, 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: missile goes off missile scent and ends this guy. So 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: now there are these exploding pagers and they and they 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: have now said exploding radios as well. Thousands of injured 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: HESBELA agents in this A handful of civilians have also 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: been reportedly killed, but the number is thankfully small, although 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: each one of those lives lost is a tragedy. But 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: the thousands of Hesbela agents, these are combatants and they're 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: part of a terror group that is constantly rocketing Israel 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and engaged in all kinds of uh you know, vicious 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: and violent terrorist action against the Jewish people. So yeah, Clay, 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: it's it's one of the most incredible UH operations in 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the espionage and sabotage world that anybody has ever seen. Honestly, 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing that this was pulled off. I'm just 45 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking just purely from the technical ability side of it, 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: that they were able to do this. Uh So we'll 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: have more for you with that when our with our 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: friend Mike Acre, who's a former agency a CIA COVID 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: operations officer, so he'll be with us at the bottom 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: of the art talking about that. Clay, I want to 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: actually switch gears for a second here, back to the border, 52 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: which still is very much on people's minds because of 53 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: the back and forth over Haiti and the Mian I'm 54 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: sorry the Haitian migrants that are in Ohio, but there's 55 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: other stuff happening that people need to know about that 56 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: very much ties into the catastrophe that is the Biden 57 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Harris border. Yesterday, Bill Malugin, Clay, who's more handsome Bill 58 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Malugin or the David Weir guy put you on the 59 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: hot seat. 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: That is that is hot seat malugins younger, I think 61 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: you're yeah. I think mirrors got like fifteen years on him. 62 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: So it's hard. You know, I have to adjust age, 63 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: so like I have to project Bill jin Ford like 64 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: a decade and a half, or I have to bring 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: muirr back like a decade and a half. Do we 66 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: have the clip? But that was hysterical of Trump saying 67 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: David Muir's hair is not what it used to be. 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: You know you said about that, Yeah, we gotta find 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: we gotta find that. 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 71 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: Trump was asked, i think in his California presser about 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: David Muir, and he said something like, you know, his 73 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: hair's not what it was five years ago, which is 74 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: an all time line. 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Malujin better looking than Muhror, both incredibly good looking men. Muhr, 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: by the way, has lost a million viewers on his 78 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: ABC News telecast since the debate, according to ratings data. 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: I saw he destroyed his brand with half the country 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: basically with the way that he moderated that debate. I mean, 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm happy to see that moderates and maybe some Republicans 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: have at least learned that ABC News is propaganda. ABC 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: News is not a neutral just because it's been around 84 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: forever and they've got the most false randing, you know, 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: spend in terms of money and time and everything. For 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: how neutral they are. It is not neutral. It is 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: Democrat propaganda. But Malugin, who I think is the correct 88 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: answer Clay because he's not a Communist, so he's inherently 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: that are looking just saying I think he got a 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: good making communists like I mean, I think Justin Trudeau's 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: not bad looking. He's a communist. Maybe Fidel Castro's son, 92 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: you've seen those. 93 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm not even pushing him down this pathway. He's just 94 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: telling us who the handsomest communists are. But I'm just saying, 95 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: but Shirtless not a bad looking guy. He's very masculine, 96 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: there's that very very high on the testosterone scale. But 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: you have mallusion sharing this and this is what I 98 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: was talking about last week because I have all these 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: people who are telling me. You know, I said on Twitter, guys, 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: you got to understand the situation of the Haitian migrants 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: in terms of policy is worse than anyone seems to realize, 102 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: or very few people realize, because they're actually not illegals. 103 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: And I get all these people coming at me saying no, 104 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: they are illegal, and I say no, they are not. 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Under existing law, they are currently not illegal. They will 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: transfer to being illegal if they are not renewed as 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Temporary Protected Status recipients, or if Trump wins and comes 108 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: in and says this is over with with a wave 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: of his hand. Trump can make them all deportable if 110 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: they receive TPS. But under the nineteen ninety Immigration Act, 111 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: congressionally pass statute and executive authority derived from it, these 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: are not actually illegals. Biden brought them into the country 113 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: in many cases. Now I'm speaking broadly. It's there's some 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: specifics here, and they are protected legally from deportation for 115 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: six to six months at a time or twelve months 116 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: at a time. I forget per CBP data. Malusian, writes Clay. 117 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Nearly five hundred and thirty thousand migrants have flown into 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: the US, not cross the US Mexico border, and have 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: been paroled into the country as part of the Biden 120 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: administration's controversial mass parole program. Additionally, eight hundred and thirteen 121 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: thousand migrants have scheduled appointments via the CBP one app 122 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: at ports of entry to be released into the US. So, Clay, 123 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's important everyone knows this. This is 124 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Bill Malujin. I'm reading from his Twitter account. He does 125 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: the best reporting on the border of anybody these days 126 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: and has for a while. Over a half million migrants 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: were flown into the country by the Biden administration on 128 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: a program that's supposed to be able to be a 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: one off, one by one. Oh, for you, it is 130 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: necessary to give you this status because if you go 131 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: back to your home country, terrible things will happen to 132 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: you or for you because of the family unification. 133 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: You know. 134 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: It's like prosecutoral discretion, right, Clay, You could just say 135 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: prosecutoral discretion. It's supposed to be case by case. But 136 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: if you say I'm not going to prosecute anybody who is, 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, selling FENTTL in my district, well you're exceeding 138 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: your authority. But that's technically something a prosecutor is able 139 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: to do unless somebody else steps in. Biden is doing that. 140 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: He's abusing the law to let in five hundred and 141 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: thirty thousand, with eight hundred thousand plus waiting in the docket. 142 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Clay think about this. 143 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, I think this goes back to if 144 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: you're out there and the border is your thing that 145 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: you care about the most, and there are a lot 146 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: of you out there listening to us right now. If 147 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: you're in Arizona, for sure, if you're in Texas, but 148 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: also there are a lot of you that feel like 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: you live in border states now because there's so many 150 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants that have come into your communities. Kamala is 151 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: not going to in any way decrease the amount of 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: immigration into this country. She's going to do what she 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: did for the last three and a half years, leave 154 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the border effectively wide open. To your point, Buck, grant 155 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: asylum status to lots of different people out there, of 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: a variety of different back grounds. And if you wait 157 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: three and a half more years, we don't know what 158 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: the real number of illegal entrants that have come into 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: this country just in the last three and a half years. 160 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Is a conservative number is ten million. I think a 161 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: conservative number for what will happen if Kamala's president is 162 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: ten million more illegals will come into the country. That's 163 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: a massive number. And we've talked about on this show before. Buck, 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: if you had to set an over under. What do 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: you think the over under is of illegal immigrants living 166 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: in the United States right now? You think it's thirty million? 167 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Do you think it's thirty five? Like, what would you 168 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: set a reasonable estimate at in your mind? 169 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: Thirty million? Yeah, I think it's thirty million, and I'm 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: not I wouldn't argue with somebody if they said twenty. 171 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue with somebody if they said forty. Right, 172 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: I would argue with somebody if they said twelve, which 173 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: has been the number. Basically, it's like eleven point eight 174 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: according to the Census Bureau. That has been the number 175 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: for a decade. And they say it's because of people. 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,479 Speaker 2: Who are going back or which is the historic migratory 177 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: patterns where people would come in, work seasonally and go back. 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Not happening anymore. Yes, that's not reality anymore. You're not 179 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: walking back to Venezuela. Yeah, I say thirty. If somebody 180 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: yells at me and says forty, I'm not going to 181 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: argue with them. Same thing with twenty. But it's definitely 182 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: not twelve because we've got ten million under Biden alone, 183 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: and I think the number, the twelve number was always low. 184 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: So the way I come to it is, I think 185 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: it when they've been telling us it's eleven million in change. 186 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: To me, it's been at least twenty and we've added 187 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: about ten under Biden. So that's how I get to thirty. 188 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: I think. 189 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: So that number is going to increase massively. And if 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: you're out there and you're saying, okay, let's say the 191 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: numbers thirty, because I think that's a reasonable estimate. Thirty 192 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: million illegals in this country right now. That's roughly eight 193 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: percent of the overall population. Think about how crazy that 194 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: is when you contemplate where we are as a nation 195 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: sitting thirty five trillion some odd dollars in debt. We're 196 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: then going to be carrying the weight of eight percent 197 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: of the people who are in the United States right 198 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: now are not citizens at all. And this is why 199 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: their game is so diabolical. They know it's almost impossible 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: to deport tens of millions of people, so their game 201 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: plan is at some point they are going to give 202 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: citizenship to these thirty million people, and look at where 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: they're resettling them. When you're talking about states being decided 204 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: by ten thousand votes twenty thousand votes on a regular basis. 205 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: What does thirty million mean? And this is also important 206 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: and I didn't even know this, buck. They get to 207 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: count for purposes of the census for house seats, which 208 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: means they've already stolen just by illegal immigration, somewhere north 209 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: of twenty seats because you somehow count for purposes of 210 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: allocation of the constituency even if you're not a citizen. 211 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: This magnifies dramatically California, for example, and New York's power 212 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: at the federal level based on illegals. So this is 213 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: a it's a huge problem. 214 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Now. 215 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I would say to anybody who's skeptical that we can 216 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: handle the deportation operations that would be needed to turn 217 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this around. Keep in mind that doing deportations at a 218 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: much escalated level is also important because it dramatically reduces 219 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: future illegal entry. 220 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Right. 221 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: So you have to change the calculation, as we've discussed 222 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: many times, you have to change the value proposition of 223 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: coming here illegally, making it a higher probability of be deported. 224 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: That's point one. Point two. It has to be an 225 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: all of the above approach of the law is the law, 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: Meaning you're gonna have people who are deported. You're gonna 227 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: have businesses that are gonna be fined for using illegal labor. 228 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to, you know, get local law enforcement 229 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: to be willing to play ball with federal law enforcement 230 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: on these issues. I mean, there's a whole range of 231 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: things where pressure can be applied and policies can be changed, 232 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: where you could get a dramatic, a dratic shift in 233 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the way that illegal immigration is happening. But it's not 234 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: going to be a small thing. I remember there was 235 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: an operation under Eisenhower. I don't know, I don't feel 236 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: like we're not allowed to say it on the radio. 237 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. The operation had a name, 238 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: which is a derogatory term used for particularly I believe, 239 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Mexican nationals, and the operation sent what It's true. I know, 240 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm just laughing thinking about if we opened up phone 241 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: lines for people to guess at the name, like, how 242 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: many SCC violations would we have? Yeah, yeah, it's it's 243 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not, it's not. It's a a term we 244 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: do not use anymore. But it was under Eisenhower. I 245 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: think they sent back a million people. But keep in 246 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: mind that was when the population of the country was 247 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: less than half what this is right now, right, So yeah. 248 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: Rhymes according to Great producer Greg with setback in case 249 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: you're wondering what the what the it might have been. 250 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: But my point about just the logistics here is that 251 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: if we decided that we were going to round up 252 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: the two or three million most recent illegals into this 253 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: country again, you're not you're not being monstrous about this. 254 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: It's you tell them, look, you're not allowed to be here. 255 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: We're going to send you back to your country of origin, 256 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe we could work out an agreement. 257 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: Play All these people who are transitting through Mexico to 258 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: get here, who are not from Mexico are violating protocols 259 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: of asylum unless they've stopped and asked Mexico to give 260 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: them asylum first. You're not supposed to pick and choose. 261 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: I want the richest country with the biggest welfare benefits. 262 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be. If I can't get out of 263 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: my country, I'm not going to survive. So if they 264 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: want to go back to Mexico or they want to 265 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: go back to other countries, they transitd through, request asylum 266 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: there and play ball. Fine, But this is something that 267 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: has to be done, and Trump is saying he will 268 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: do it, So we'll see. 269 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: Look this weekend, we got a lot of football going 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: on Friday, Saturday, Thursday, Sunday. 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Congrats and all the success of of 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: the PDB podcast, and I've you know, look, you and 352 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: I are familiar in a whole range of ways, whether 353 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: historically or from our time in with UH espionage and 354 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: sabotage operations around the world. Right, I mean, this is 355 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: neither of us have ever seen, I would assume anything 356 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: like this. I mean this is a first What do 357 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: you think about what Israel has pulled off here? Well, 358 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean look at it. 359 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: First of all, it's you know, setting aside. I'm sure 360 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 6: what's going to be lots of international condemnations you know 361 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 6: about Oh my god, this is you know. 362 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: Asymmetric warfare. 363 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 6: How dare you step outside the norms of you know, 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 6: traditional warfare conduct. You know, from an operational perspective, it's 365 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 6: it's very sophisticated, very impressive, U regardless of who did it. 366 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 6: I mean again, you always kepped a coveat this by saying, look, 367 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: Israel has you know, provided no comment. 368 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they neither confirm nor deny. But you know they 369 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: also say they don't have nukes. 370 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: I mean right, yeah, exactly so. 371 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 6: But from a from a sophistication standpoint. Look, you will 372 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 6: imagine what is involved here and actually sourcing the contacts 373 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 6: who can get you access to the communications gear, both 374 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 6: the pages and the handheld radios. You know, it was 375 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: a far heavier lift than just the mechanics of installing 376 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: the explosives and you know, creating the triggering mechanism for 377 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 6: remote operations. So you know, the the work that went 378 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: up to that point where they actually had access to 379 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 6: the gear is extremely impressive. They've they've done similar operations 380 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: like this in the past. 381 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: They I think it. 382 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 6: Was twenty twenty when they remotely. 383 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Took out an Iranian scientist. 384 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 6: And you know, there's been other situations you can even 385 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 6: go back to in a sense, you could go back 386 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 6: to stucks Net, although that was more of a cyber weapon, 387 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 6: but there was still sort of an element of physical 388 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 6: access there that was required. But yeah, this is this 389 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 6: is an impressive operation, that's no doubt about it. 390 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: If you are Hesboa, and let's pretend that you are 391 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: on their communications team, which I would imagine is in 392 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: a rough spot right now. You've just had the pagers, 393 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: You now have had effectively the walkie talkies. How in 394 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: the world are they communicating right now are they back 395 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: to carrier pigeons, Can they trust them? Is it just 396 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: straight messengers? And more importantly, how much do you think 397 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: it creates a massive communication issue for them in terms 398 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: of just their ability to respond. 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it creates the real logistics issue for them. 400 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: I think, you know, first and foremost, there's an element 401 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 6: here that they're trying to create paranoia. And that's a 402 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 6: good thing when you're dealing with a terrorist organization, or 403 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: you're dealing with a group that you're targeting, you know, 404 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 6: go back to the days of the ira or you know, 405 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 6: current times of cartels, whomever it is. You're trying to 406 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: create an element of fear that they don't know who 407 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 6: they can trust within their own organization at that point, 408 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 6: and the Iranian regime has felt that recently, right with 409 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 6: with some of the operations that have taken place inside Tehran. 410 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 6: So that I think is a really important component of 411 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: all of this from you know, from just a strict 412 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 6: communications standpoint. 413 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: Look, they're the irony here. 414 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 6: You know, it's not to make light of this, but 415 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 6: the irony is that they were able to target these 416 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 6: devices because over the past several months, has a lot 417 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 6: decided they needed to dumb down their communications approach, so 418 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 6: they put out command you know, most of the fighters, 419 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: the officials of the leadership groups stopped using cell phones 420 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: because they started to get indications that those were corrupted 421 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 6: by the Israeli services, and so they went to dumb 422 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: down this and that's why they were going to pages, 423 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 6: which they've used in the past, but they started to 424 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 6: use them more handheld radios for more communication, to try 425 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: to make things more secure. So where do they go 426 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 6: from here? Look, I mean your next step is kind 427 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 6: of what Al Qaeda used to do when they were 428 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 6: really dumbing things down, and it was handwritten notes and personal, 429 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: you know, face to face communication between you know, okay, 430 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 6: you're my cousin, I can trust you and they and 431 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 6: so it slows things down immeasurably. 432 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: So when you look at this, what happens next? And 433 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't you imagine in addition to the communications issues, it's 434 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: not only what's going on with Heswalad. Wouldn't you imagine 435 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: that Hamas is looking around pretty nervous. We know that 436 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: Israel has been very effective at trying to slow down 437 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Iran's pursuit of a of a nuclear weapon. What do 438 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: you think those entities are doing, are they? I would 439 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: be honest if I were them, I'd be like, all 440 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: of our pagers are out, like, let's get rid of everything, 441 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: because if they did this to them, we got to 442 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: source everything and redo our entire communication strategy. Doesn't don't 443 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: you think this likely likely extends beyond Hesbola and everybody 444 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: who is in a foe of Israel right now is 445 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: basically re constituting their entire communication networks as well. 446 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'm glad you brought up Iran right because 447 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 6: this is a top down structure and Iran is the 448 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 6: puppet master here and they've created this, this ring, this 449 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 6: network of terror properties and they all share the same 450 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 6: often stated objective of Iran, which is to remove Israel 451 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: from the map. So yes, there is I guarantee you 452 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 6: right now there is coordination going on between the IRGC 453 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 6: liaison that deal with Kamas and Hesbela, the Huti's, some 454 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 6: of the militias that are sitting in Rock Aslam as Jihad, 455 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 6: and they are looking at you know, how they're going 456 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: to handle their communications because it doesn't just impact as 457 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: you pointed out, it doesn't just impact Tesbola. They're all 458 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: backed finance trained resource by the same uh you know 459 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 6: a group which is the Iranian regime and the IRGC. 460 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, this is a this is a big issue 461 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 6: for them obviously. Now they've got to figure out, you know, 462 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: how do they go from here? And and again I 463 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: go back to the same point, which is part of 464 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: this operation is undoubtedly designed to create this paranoia within 465 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 6: these organizations, and that can sometimes create other opportunities. It 466 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: creates movement, It creates shifts in protocols and planning and 467 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 6: strategy and resources, and so those also open up operational 468 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 6: opportunities to take advantage and identify and target individuals and 469 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 6: elements of these organizations. 470 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: It's been a Mike Baker PDBS this podcast, which you 471 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: can listen wherever you get your podcast. Let's do a 472 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: great guy who brings real expertise and time not just 473 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: in the agency, but in the scary places doing the 474 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: real work to bear on what he's talking about day 475 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: in and day out. And Mike, I'm just wondering, I 476 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: don't know. You don't have to confirm or deny if 477 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: you've been talking to Trump or anybody in his orbit 478 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: recently about anything, but if you were going to advise 479 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: who will be our hopefully next president of the United 480 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: States on the way to handle this aspect of Midi's policies. Specifically, 481 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: this Israel Hamas has bull a situation Iran in the background, 482 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: and there's this sense that, oh my gosh, it could escalate, 483 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: It could escalate at any time more than it already has. 484 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: What would you tell the next potus? What would you 485 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: tell President Trump if he said, Mike, what do I 486 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: do to get things squirret away? 487 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 6: Well, first, they've got to jelf the idea of appeasement 488 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 6: with Iran, with its Irunian regime. 489 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the population, of course or whatever. 490 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 6: A lot of the population would love to see the 491 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 6: Iranian regime go, as well as with Sociaudis and the 492 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 6: Jordanians and a variety of other players in that region. 493 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 6: But I would say, you've got to get rid of 494 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 6: this concept of appeasement and somehow they're going to join 495 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 6: the Community of Nations. This regime in the IRGC, which 496 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: is an extremely influential element of the Iranian government, they've 497 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 6: got their hands in everything, and we've got to go 498 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 6: back to maximum sanctions. We've done it before, right, you 499 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: have to literally starve the regime out right, and does that. 500 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: Create hardships for the people. 501 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 6: It does, But longer term, does that create opportunity for 502 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 6: a better life for those people by you know, eventually, 503 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 6: at some point this regime gets pushed aside, hopefully internally. 504 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: You know, the population finally has had enough. So I 505 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 3: think you've got to go. 506 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 6: Back to maximum sanctions. And I think we also, you 507 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 6: know that whoever is in charge next, he needs to 508 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: understand the danger involved in the deepening relationship between Russia 509 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: and Iran, because the Iranians aren't providing munitions and drones 510 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 6: and and other hardware to the Russian Ukrainian war effort 511 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 6: pro bono. They're not doing it out of the goodness 512 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 6: of their hearts. They're doing it for a reason, and 513 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 6: that reason primarily is technology transfer, weapons transfer, and the 514 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 6: nuclear and even space technologies areas. So that is a 515 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 6: very dangerous thing because that accelerates the Iranian regime's efforts. 516 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 6: And no matter what they're saying, the amounts of admigedery 517 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 6: ranium that they're currently sitting on, there's just no civilian 518 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 6: purpose for that. So they are moving towards their end goal, 519 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 6: which is a weapons program and that has got to 520 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: be stopped. And there's a lot of players in the 521 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: region again who would like to see that happen as well. 522 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 6: They understand that most of the chaos and instability in 523 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 6: the region is a result. 524 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: Of this current Iranian regime and the IRGC forty some 525 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: odd days until our election. Here the one year anniversary 526 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: coming up of the October seventh Tamas attack. What kind 527 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: of magnificant odds or analysis would you would you put 528 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: on the table here that the Middle East could become 529 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: the October surprise or a major flashpoint in terms of 530 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: its ability to impact in some way what's going to 531 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: be a close American presidential election. Do you think the 532 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: sides are quiet ish down the stretch or do you 533 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: think this remains a major geopolitical focus that could impact 534 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: our election as well. 535 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Well? 536 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 6: I think, you know, breaking it out into little bits 537 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 6: and pieces, like the Iranian regime, will you know, given 538 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 6: their druthers, will not do anything that could result in 539 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: a Trump victory. 540 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: They would rather Iran would like Kamala to be in office. 541 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: That's fair to say. Israel would like Trump. Would you 542 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: say that's the general consensus in the Middle East? 543 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the general. That's the general feeling, right. 544 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 6: And so you know, if you if you if you 545 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 6: take that to a somewhat logical course, not to say 546 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 6: that the Iranians are on a logic train, but if 547 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 6: you did do that, then you would say, Okay, they 548 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 6: won't do anything drastic between now and the election that 549 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 6: could shift things to cause American voters think, you know what, Actually, 550 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 6: the Iranians are the key to the problems here and 551 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 6: we need somebody strong. 552 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: To deal with them. 553 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 6: And oh, look, we've got a track record of the 554 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: former president dealing with them in a more forceful, aggressive way. 555 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: We've got almost. 556 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 6: Four years of the Harris Biden administration appeasing them. So 557 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 6: I think they'll they'll be mindful of that. But look, 558 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: this problem, we just keep kicking the can down the road. 559 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 6: Every time Anthony blaken or anyone on the US side 560 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: talks about, well, we just have to have this ceasefire 561 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 6: in Gaza in order to have peace. 562 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: That's that's nonsense. 563 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 6: You're putting lift stick on a pig, because nothing's ever 564 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 6: going to change in that region as long as the regime, 565 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 6: the Irra audience and their proxies that they've built have 566 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: the same end goal, which is the destruction of Israel. 567 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 6: So that's the problem that has to be dealt with 568 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 6: at the top. You know, just occasional you know, flare 569 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 6: ups and then a ceasefire that has blow a ceasefire 570 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 6: with with Kamas, good Goud, we'll be talking about this, 571 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 6: or grandkids will be talking about this. 572 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: No doubt. 573 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate the time. Fantastic analysis. He is Mike Baker. We'll 574 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: talk to you again soon. 575 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: Take care of guys, take care of but. 576 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: Population of Israel and high alert again anticipating an attack 577 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: of some type. You just heard us talking about what 578 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: exactly has been going on in the Middle East, day in, 579 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: day out, been that way since October seventh, almost a 580 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: year ago now, when their country was attacked by Hamas terrorists. 581 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: The fear of the next attack understandable. We don't know 582 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: how it will arrive, but we know that it is 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: at some point coming. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, 584 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: that's the IFCJ has been helping to provide as many 585 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: Israeli citizens as possible with food and medicine for bomb 586 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: shelter stays that can last for several days, for more 587 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: than forty years, the ifc has been on the ground 588 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: in Israel. We need to help them. 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Fight it in 598 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: the Clay and Buck podcast. Feed on the iHeartRadio app 599 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 600 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Several different 601 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: things going on are thanks to Mike Baker for breaking 602 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: down that situation in Israel. I'm gonna be over in Israel. 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: The plan is in December, as long as flights are 604 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: still allowed to go there. We're supposed to be there 605 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: in August, but all the error travel got shut down. 606 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson up in the good State of Wisconsin 607 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: is going to join us at the top of the 608 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: next hour, and then we're also going to talk to 609 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 2: Ned Ryan. We got a couple of guests that are 610 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: coming up in the third hour here, but Buck, we're 611 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: being deluged with emails about Bill Malugen, who we need 612 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: to get on the show at some point, and not 613 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: just because he's incredibly good looking, and also David Muir. 614 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Mary wrote into me, Clay, Buck, what's your infatuation with him? Clay, 615 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: he looks like John Kerrey, looks like he could be 616 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: a son fifteen inches between the top of his forehead 617 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: in the middle of his chin. Whenever he interviews or presents, 618 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: he sounds cranky and depressed, like a mini John Kerry. 619 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: Mary's not happy how many think he's a good looking guy. 620 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: I think you know. 621 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you. 622 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Got an email that this is not helping the One 623 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: of the greatest insults that's ever been levied against the show. 624 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Clay cannot tell a lie when it comes to another 625 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: handsome guy. We have Arthur writing in on X to 626 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: us guys talking about how handsome dudes are is not 627 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: good for the gay Travis and Cuck Sexton nicknames, and 628 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: to this, I just say, you know, I mean, we're 629 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: just talking, just two guys talking about things I don't know. 630 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes stuff happens. 631 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: For people who missed. I think the funniest email that's 632 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: ever been sent into the show was a guy insulting 633 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: us by saying Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show more 634 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: like gay Travis and Cuck Sexton show, which I gotta 635 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: be honest. I mean I read it and I couldn't 636 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 2: stop laughing about it. My thing is, if you are 637 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: a guy who pretends that you can't tell if another 638 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: man is good looking or not, I think you're trying 639 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: too hard. I think you're trying to pretend that you 640 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: don't actually notice it. 641 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 3: Bilbil. 642 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: We cover a lot of ground here on the show play, 643 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: and then it ago we're talking about how to get 644 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: Mid East peace going with you know, decades long CIA veteran. 645 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: You got another CIA you know, former officer here, and 646 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: now we're talking about whether it's okay to talk about 647 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: how handsome Bill Malugin is. So I'm just you know, 648 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: our friends who listen over at Fox News must be like, Wow, 649 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: they must really like Bill Mallugit. 650 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: Our good friend producer Greg actually did a tale of 651 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: the tape research here. Bill Belugin thirty three David Muir 652 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: fifty one. I mean that's a generational divide again. I 653 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: think you have to kind of meld them. You have 654 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: to raise Bill ten, decline David Muir ten, and then 655 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: you assess them at the age of forty to find 656 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: out who's more handsome. I've said before, I think Bill 657 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Malugin is the best looking person on Fox News. 658 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: No insult. All right, now, we're going too long on 659 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: this now, No insult. 660 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: No insult to Tommy Larin, no insult to to to. 661 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't know all the limit, but no, I'm just saying, 662 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: there are a lot of good looking women on Fox News. 663 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: I think Bill Malugan is better looking as a man 664 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: than they are for a woman. And there there's no 665 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: insult there. I'm just saying he's a very handsome man. 666 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: So's David Muir. I wish he was better at moderating. 667 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: I wish he could trade some of his handsomeness. I'll 668 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: take it, I need it, and he could instead be 669 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: better at moderating. I think I would have been a 670 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: better moderator, but he's a better looking man. 671 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: Up. 672 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: In a minute, we're gonna talk about how to save 673 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: the country and this election, and do you think do 674 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: you think Ron Johnson has a strong take on which 675 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: man's better looking? Ron listens, I think Ron john about 676 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: the economy on the border first. Can we just agree 677 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: with that before we ask him who's handsomer Clay? 678 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: I think Ron might not want to answer the question 679 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: because it's hard, it's a hard choice. 680 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: Yes. 681 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll go up to Wisconsin Ron 682 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: Johnson see if he's recovered from the performance of the 683 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Wisconsin Badgers against Alabama. And then also our good buddy 684 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: Ned Ryan. That's the thought Final Hour program today.