WEBVTT - The GLICKED Phenomenon 

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas. I hope everybody had an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing Thanksgiving week last week as we I guess officially

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<v Speaker 1>kick off the holiday season and.

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<v Speaker 2>If you dare to find me, look to the western sky.

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<v Speaker 1>We also thank you LZ kicked off movie season.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you guys seen Wicked?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, okay, we did. Here's the thing, Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>winding down. Hoping everyone had an excellent Thanksgiving with your

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones. Hope that no one turned away their loved

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<v Speaker 2>ones for whoever they voted for.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I am interested to hear if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>had any great like political moments.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, great in a funny way, not in a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible I hope you. For the record, I'll say, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>on MSNBC or whatever it is saying that you should

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<v Speaker 2>turn away family members from holidays because of who they

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<v Speaker 2>voted for.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's not what America is about.

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<v Speaker 2>To me. America, the America that I hope and dream

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<v Speaker 2>and idolize, is one where we can all feel differently

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<v Speaker 2>and still come together and love each other and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there was once a dream called Rome.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we also saw Gladiator.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, just seemed like the time to slide that in.

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<v Speaker 1>There seemed very both both actually both movies seem very apropos.

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<v Speaker 1>But the cool thing about the holidays. Elsie and I

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<v Speaker 1>are big, obviously journalism fans, but we also love the movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we love to dissect these movies and we went

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<v Speaker 1>deep with the family when they were in town.

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<v Speaker 4>So I grew up in a movie loving family.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if this was a tradition for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, it was not movies at all period done

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<v Speaker 2>not really.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother and I we would go see movies, the

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<v Speaker 1>kids would. My family. We weren't big.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie we were we I mean, I think that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of why I got into entertainment journalism. My dad loved movies,

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother did. We went to see a movie like

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<v Speaker 2>almost every weekend as a family, or if not, we

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<v Speaker 2>were at Blockbuster. And you know that was those those

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<v Speaker 2>great times where it was the family activity to go

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody could pick out one movie and you better

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<v Speaker 2>not get those late fees. But the movies really feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a holiday thing to me as well, because for

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<v Speaker 2>sure on Thanksgiving and or Christmas, there was always a Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what movie are we going to see as a family?

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<v Speaker 2>And I do really love that this year Wicked and

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<v Speaker 2>Gladiator are kind of bringing people back out for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought our Wicked tickets a month ago, back at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of October, and it was almost the showing

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<v Speaker 2>was almost sold out at that point. I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>get all six seats together in October. So I was happy, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I love when we as a country can have a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of communal experience too, Like Barbie felt that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and movies used to always feel that way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Wicked is feeling that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely. You know, they tried to link it

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<v Speaker 1>to Barbenheimer. I think because Licked. Oh, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're now so uncreative that we just have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to something that we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>That does every movie have a sequel, But every like

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenon has to have a sequel, Every cultural moment has

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to be something. It's like, Okay, what is Taylor Swift?

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's the new beat. It's like she's just Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>But they they so they tried to link it and

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<v Speaker 1>it was very This was this experience I felt was

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<v Speaker 1>very unlike Barbenheimer Wicked. I had this weird ebb and

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<v Speaker 1>flow excitement about Wicked. I went from unbelievably excited to

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<v Speaker 1>very trepidacious to very plea, why are you because of

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<v Speaker 1>the press?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's see, they didn't really worry me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if everybody's seen it, They've been doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>press for Wicked. I'm quoting Puck the Hollywood News outlet here.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently three hundred and fifty million dollars spent on the

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<v Speaker 2>marketing for the movie itself only cost one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty three million, So it needs to make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money to make that back. I think it will.

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<v Speaker 2>But they have been doing so many interviews, and you

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<v Speaker 2>all have probably seen the Ariana Grande Cynthia Rivo interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>They've gotten very emotional. They've cried in multiple interviews. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been holding hands, and it's definitely been poked for that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've lost themselves, they've lost.

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<v Speaker 3>It in these roles.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, I was so excited because it is

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<v Speaker 1>one of, if not my favorite musical. It has a

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<v Speaker 1>very emotional tie. It's one of the first big musicals

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<v Speaker 1>I took my daughter Taylor to when we did a

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<v Speaker 1>big Broadway trip when she was younger. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>this musical and I was so excited for it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the press and I'm like, just please stop talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody stopped. I just I just want to enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like they were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were doing so many trailers and commercials too. I

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<v Speaker 2>would look away. I was I'm like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to know any more about this movie. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>They almost over exposed it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>They lit up the Arc de Triomph for crying out

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<v Speaker 1>loud in Paris in pink and green. I am pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to report it was fantastic, incredible Arianna and Cynthia fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie was spectacular. I'm going to say this right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dropping the mic, dropping the tea. This will win

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<v Speaker 1>Best Picture this year at the Oscars, period dot full stop.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first. Wow, Wicked will win Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm absolutely with you that it should win. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that it will only because the Oscars always

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<v Speaker 2>vote for well, at least in recent years, vote for

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<v Speaker 2>something for the most part, that's like an art house

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<v Speaker 2>film versus an actual blockbuster movie. The last time a

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<v Speaker 2>music I think the only time a musical has won

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<v Speaker 2>Best Picture was Chicago, and it won's if I believe

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<v Speaker 2>six Academy Awards. Other Academy Award nominated musicals, Mulan Rouge

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<v Speaker 2>was nominated for eight. I don't know if it won any,

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<v Speaker 2>and le Miss I think nominated for eight as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it won a couple of them, but Chicago definitely

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<v Speaker 2>the most winningest. I would absolutely love to see Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>win Best Picture. I at the end of the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor and I were sitting next to each other. We

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<v Speaker 2>turned to each other, both crying in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed, I cried. I walked out, saying that is

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<v Speaker 2>the best movie I've seen. And I don't remember how long.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminded me. I'm gonna I'm going to date myself here.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I felt an energy like that, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very different crowd, very different, different demographic, but

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<v Speaker 1>the same energy in Rocky one and two, when when

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<v Speaker 1>people stood up and cheered, and I vaguely remember that

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<v Speaker 1>people were going people applauded.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of Wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>They appl at the end of Wicked. It felt weird

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<v Speaker 1>that they weren't applauding at the end of every si.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept wanting to because you do feel they did

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<v Speaker 2>an excellent job of creating the movie in a way

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<v Speaker 2>where you feel like you are watching a musical in

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<v Speaker 2>a theater, meaning on stage, but not but it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>so primitive as a stage like they made it a movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it had the feeling of a stage musical. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that most complimentary way. A couple times I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to applaud at the ends of songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I just there was an energy walking in young and old,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. A bunch of young people coming to

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<v Speaker 1>see this movie, a bunch of old people who just

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<v Speaker 1>love the musical.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seeing a movie in a credit and so there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this energy. Everybody was talking and so excited for

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<v Speaker 1>this and when it launched, everybody just was spellbound. And

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<v Speaker 1>when it was over, applause rang out in the theater

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<v Speaker 1>and the buzz as everybody was walking out, there were

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<v Speaker 1>girls singing at the top of their lungs. You went

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<v Speaker 1>into the bathroom, and the girls I went.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I went in the bathroom in these sweet girls,

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<v Speaker 2>probably like ten or eleven. They actually had not gone

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<v Speaker 2>to see it yet, but they heard me talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it and they said, did you just come out of Wicked?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yes, it's so good. Are you guys going

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<v Speaker 2>to see it?

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<v Speaker 4>And the girl was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's my birthday today and I'm so excited, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, it's my birthday tomorrow, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>was a It really was a nice moment of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, as you're saying, this movie is crossing generations.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Barbie did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Wicked's a better movie. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I would put Wicked up there. You're saying, Rocky,

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<v Speaker 2>I would put it up there for how I felt

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater after like the Lord of the Rings

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<v Speaker 2>movies in the early two thousands, where I just thought, no, notes,

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<v Speaker 2>what a movie. And before I went in, I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this run time? I think it's two hours

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<v Speaker 2>and forty minutes and it's only part one. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>a part two coming. I only saw the musical once

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<v Speaker 2>on stage years ago, and obviously it's not like a

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<v Speaker 2>six hour musical, so I guess they must have had

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<v Speaker 2>a dialogue to make part one in.

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<v Speaker 1>Part two, Yeah, lots of and there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>There was an I won't give any spoilers away, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was a whole section in there that wasn't really apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Really they lifted it out. Yes, I'll just say about

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<v Speaker 1>the animals.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was in the musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really. They didn't very vaguely in the musical.

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<v Speaker 4>It was definite more scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that was ply a much deeper meteor part

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was worried about the runtime. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>feel the run time.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed the squorm test, and they definitely passed the

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<v Speaker 1>squirm test. I wasn't ready for it to be over,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I realized this is probably where they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to cut. Yeah, they did.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was expertly cast. Jonathan Bailey, Cynthia Arrivo,

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<v Speaker 2>Ariana Grande all amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ariana Grande probably going to win Best Actress.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think they should all be nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Rivo, she was fine, She was good, She was

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<v Speaker 1>very good. There was nothing wrong with her. Ariana Grande

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<v Speaker 1>was just she does such comedic chops. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that when she was on Esen l Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you're alluding to is that they are

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<v Speaker 2>going to potentially be competing against each other, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm both best afters.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, even with Kristin Chenowith and Dina Menzel

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, the part of Golinda just it

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<v Speaker 1>lends itself so you can do more with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have better comedy chops. She has better lines. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the the bad Witch, the Wicked Witch definitely lends

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<v Speaker 1>itself to just emoting emotions and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Glinda has the range.

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<v Speaker 2>She's funny, she plays airheady, she has like poignant moments.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like legally blonde. You know, you get to like.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally and I think that you know, we've seen Ariana's

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<v Speaker 2>comic timing on SNL, but I had not seen the

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<v Speaker 2>full range of her acting skills and they are all

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<v Speaker 2>at play here. And you know, she's talked for years

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<v Speaker 2>about loving this musical and obviously she took training for

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<v Speaker 2>it so seriously, and she was incredible. I definitely thought

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<v Speaker 2>hers was was the standout performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you said no notes, I'm going to give you two.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Goldbloom and trying to sing well.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Jeff Goldbloom.

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<v Speaker 3>He was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw in an interview that he hired a vocal coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where that money went.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe more than three hundred and fifty million should have gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was he plays. Obviously the wizard that was.

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<v Speaker 4>His singing was snuck. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>People gave Richard gear a hard time for singing in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the memory it was very infamous that he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't He was the only one not nominated because they

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<v Speaker 2>said his singing was bad. Please, yeah, Richard, you're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think one of the brilliant parts of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie was they went further than the musical with just

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<v Speaker 1>a little notes of kind of just homages to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz, homages to.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember the music.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the beginning, the way they started the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was a little bit different than obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>musical because they have, you know, the cgi of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of included a nod to the Wizard of

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<v Speaker 1>Oz in the beginning. That was really cool. They just

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<v Speaker 1>did a good job. I thought with like throughout the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak to because I don't remember them. Details

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<v Speaker 2>of the musical well enough to know how much it

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<v Speaker 2>was different. I did love the costumes, the set pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you really, That to me was the big

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<v Speaker 2>difference of why it was worth making this a movie

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<v Speaker 2>beyond it being an on stage musical, because even Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>like Chicago, isn't all these set pieces and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie has magic, has you know, animal characters and

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<v Speaker 2>sorcery and color and the Emerald City and forests and

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<v Speaker 2>their schools. So it had all this opportunity where you

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<v Speaker 2>can do a lot more with a movie than you

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<v Speaker 2>can with.

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<v Speaker 3>A stage play.

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<v Speaker 2>And the costumes and set pieces and the use of

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<v Speaker 2>CGI were all great.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be more wise about this than I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie industry. But what I liked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how to describe this, Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can articulate it better. The CGI didn't bug because it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like they used a lot of real sets.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know what they used or not,

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<v Speaker 2>because yes, sometimes you know, you watch a movie and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, will they spend a lot of money on

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<v Speaker 2>the CGI?

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<v Speaker 4>And it just looks like CGI? So this feels stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Just didn't too much green screen this didn't feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>That well in Lord of the Rings, Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell the movies that hold up because they

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<v Speaker 2>used miniatures and animatronics and CGI Like in Lord of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rings. Those movies are, you know, more than twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years old, and I think they hold up because they

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<v Speaker 2>use a lot of miniatures.

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<v Speaker 4>Draassic Park holds up because they us a lot of animatronics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the New Jurassic Park, you just feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at a CGI dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 4>This didn't feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so ten out of ten, ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of ten, Now let's swing the other way, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just box office wise, Week one

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<v Speaker 1>of Wicked, what one hundred and fifteen million, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think is what I think, that's what you said. They

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<v Speaker 1>they're I would think they're about six to seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million into this thing. So it has to

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<v Speaker 1>do about a billion dollars for them to really feel

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<v Speaker 1>good and pull this thing off. And so they're in

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<v Speaker 1>week two. It did really well in opening weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the number was in that range. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like the latest numbers are that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was the highest grossing opening weekend for

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<v Speaker 2>a musical of all time. It's over two hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of its second weekend. I think so

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<v Speaker 2>by Sunday, Wicked expected to reach just under two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty three million domestically worldwide three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>eight million.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know with some of these movies

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<v Speaker 1>that where they're shooting to putting them in the can

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<v Speaker 1>that have been failures lately, like you look at Mission

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<v Speaker 1>Impossible that really worried the box office and worried the

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<v Speaker 1>studios because the first one did not do great, to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of having to change the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>second one and move the date. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>there was probably some lessons learned, and that's probably why

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<v Speaker 1>they put three hundred and fifty million dollars into promoting this,

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<v Speaker 1>because they realize if they don't launch Wicked one, Wicked

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<v Speaker 1>two is dead in the water. So it's it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a massive success worldwide, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge it and I think it will be

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<v Speaker 1>the darling of the Oscars this year. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to crush I hope, well all of a word season,

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, get to the Golden Globes and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even really think of other movies that have

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<v Speaker 4>come out this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then we also went and saw Gladiator. Gladiator too,

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<v Speaker 1>which everybody have been talking about, obviously, the Russell Crowe,

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<v Speaker 1>huge epic hit that was a massive success back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. And now we have Pedro Pascal, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Washington, Paul mes Cow Ams Cow.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a mess. It was a bit of a mess.

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<v Speaker 4>I was very disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>I it felt like not a sequel but a remake

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<v Speaker 2>but worse. And I wanted it to be great. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the original Gladiator. This didn't even I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>say this was as good as so you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if it was just as good as remake.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I get to watch Gladiator again. It doesn't need

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<v Speaker 4>a remake.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was bad the bad CGI first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>but much more importantly bad script.

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<v Speaker 3>Some not all not great acting plot line that like didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of holes, a lot of holes in the script.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Paul mescal is a really good actor, but

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<v Speaker 2>his character is basically, you know now Russell Crowe's character

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<v Speaker 2>and in the original Gladiator. I think my biggest issue

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<v Speaker 2>is in the original Gladiator. Russell Crowe's character was this

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<v Speaker 2>man everybody rallied around, and that's how he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to change everything in this movie. Paul Mescal's character had

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<v Speaker 2>like no reason for everybody to rally around him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, he wasn't very likable.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had to I felt like they rushed in,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, we got to just hit these plot

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<v Speaker 1>points real quick, and let's get back into the coliseum

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<v Speaker 1>and let's get going. And there was such great character

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<v Speaker 1>building with Russell Crowe that made us love him, understand

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<v Speaker 1>why he was loved, and we went on this journey

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and they just did not do that in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie at all. And you're right, I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of, you know, was it the fate of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to follow up such an epic film, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Top Gun did that the last time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did a fine job. And there have been others

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<v Speaker 1>that have gone on to do great sequels. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a really rough sequel. And I get that sophomore album

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<v Speaker 1>is a tough one to make, but this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I mean, look, we waited twenty years. It should

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<v Speaker 2>have been good, you know, Like, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>We've waited twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean with.

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked, we waited twenty years for the movie and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't disappoint.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they have that in common.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's going to do well in these

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of weekends because people loved Gladiator and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to go see it. It's not the worst movie

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<v Speaker 2>ever I've ever seen, but it wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you want to turn off your brain and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, it is, I couldn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn off my brain. It didn't, as you say, passed

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<v Speaker 2>the squirm test. Another's a long run time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say the same thing. I was

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<v Speaker 1>really ready for it to be over. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of started getting tired nodding off, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's this is rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a bit of a headache towards the end.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I can't say the same good things.

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<v Speaker 2>Would not recommend maybe catch it on a plane. That's

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<v Speaker 2>really how I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm bummed. I love the first movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted it to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that like I think that today, like some

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<v Speaker 2>people say, movies aren't as good as they used to

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<v Speaker 2>be because all we make is sequels. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>more than that. I think that tech people are running

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<v Speaker 2>movie studios instead of creative people. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many there's like way too much analysis of data

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<v Speaker 2>instead of just feeling what a good story is and

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<v Speaker 2>like making art. And I think that there's way too

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<v Speaker 2>many boxes trying to be checked, like well, we need

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<v Speaker 2>an action scene every five seconds, and we need, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to fill all the you know, reach all these different

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<v Speaker 2>audiences through these paths. And it's like, if you followed

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 2>that path, Godfather never would have been made, Citizen Kane

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<v Speaker 2>never would have been made, the whole industry wouldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think people are just making good movies anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just hit the nail on the head

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<v Speaker 1>with We we Get Aside.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say with Wicked, so brilliantly put together and done and

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<v Speaker 1>edited in the script, and and they they took the

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<v Speaker 1>musical and I think they went even a little deeper,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think brilliantly done. What I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching with Gladiator, I almost felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>like flipping through reels on Instagram, Yes, on Instagram, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>There's the little yet that made no sense together.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said really quick of like, okay, guys, every

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes, we need a little dialogue. Okay, we're at

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half minutes. We got to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to a fight scene. Okay, now for minutes it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>very It was like I you said into Ai, make

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<v Speaker 1>me Gladiator too, and that's what AI kind of spit out.

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<v Speaker 2>I truly had a headache after which, as if I

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<v Speaker 2>had had too much screen time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to do well. Probably, I think week two

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<v Speaker 1>three in the box office will start to fall off.

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel did his job, Denzel.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel was Denzel, and he's he seemed very theatrical. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna have a good time with this. Out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten, where are you four? Yeah, I might give

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<v Speaker 1>it a four point five, but it struggled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, hope that everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Let

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<v Speaker 2>us know what movie you saw in What was not

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the glicked phenomenon, but it was a wicked weekend. We

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed it and hope that you had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to wish you a happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks It doesn't feel it really doesn't feel like my

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<v Speaker 4>birthday this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it. It's too close to Thanksgiving this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually I get like a week and even then it

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.159
<v Speaker 2>feels a little close to Thanksgiving. This week, Thanksgiving is

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 2>very late, and so a day between my birthday and

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving it feels a little weird. It's wonky's it is

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving us Thursday, we had Friday, and now my birthdays

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<v Speaker 2>and Saturday, it feels wung oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Without giving away your age where it's not a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like when they're not big ones, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, what is this one? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? When it's not like that kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>five or a zero in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I don't know, and I don't care about giving

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<v Speaker 2>away my age. I'm turning thirty seven. I mean sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I still feel the weird funkiness of like the way

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<v Speaker 2>the past couple of years, like the pandemic and on,

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.479
<v Speaker 2>have affected all of our sense of time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird. I think, like, I don't know if everyone

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 2>feels this way, but my early thirties were all in

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:51.959
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic and that didn't like feel normal, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that like we have had a few things

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<v Speaker 2>in the works that have taken a lot longer over

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<v Speaker 2>the past year then we wanted them to, so that

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't totally know how I will mark

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<v Speaker 2>this past year in like, you know, usually I can

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<v Speaker 2>look back and say like, oh, that was the year

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<v Speaker 2>I started at ET, or that was the year we

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Austin, And I don't totally feel how to

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<v Speaker 2>mark this year right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I get that. Yeah, yeah, but a great but

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<v Speaker 1>oddly a great one.

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<v Speaker 4>As well, though, no, there was a well yeah of course, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I know I understand what you're saying though,

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<v Speaker 1>because usually yeah, you think back of like oh that

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<v Speaker 1>was when I was thirty two, I did this or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's been really a really good year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I feel a little a little rudderless right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm I mean, I don't mean to sound ungrateful.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't call this like one of my best years,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it was a good year. Last year

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, oh we got married. This year, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this year, I don't know what the the thing was

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<v Speaker 2>and that makes me feel a little rudderless, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to mark the year yet and

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<v Speaker 2>then at the same time, I'm reminding myself, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>life is good and everyone's healthy and happy and be grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, maybe this will be the year that my

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<v Speaker 4>nephew was born.

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<v Speaker 2>But that feels like a thing that's not mine, so

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<v Speaker 2>it feels weird too.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and we did finally go on our honeymoon,

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<v Speaker 1>which was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes that's true. Well not okay, so now we're wrapping

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<v Speaker 2>that up. Well, yes, everybody, we just went on our honeymoon.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't go on a honeymoon when we got married

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<v Speaker 2>because we had our two weddings and there were so

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<v Speaker 2>much celebrating. So we decided we'll go on our honeymoon

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<v Speaker 2>for our one year anniversary. And so we are also

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<v Speaker 2>just coming back. No joke landed, and then our family

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<v Speaker 2>came in for Thanksgiving. We are just coming back from

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<v Speaker 2>Portugal and Spain, which were incredible. We did Porto, the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Porto and the Doro Valley, the wine region

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<v Speaker 2>of Portugal, which you'd always wanted to do, and Bilbao, Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>which had been on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>We se yeah, spectacular cities. The people were wonderful, it

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<v Speaker 1>was great. It was very interesting to be over in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe too. A few people kind of leaned in softly

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<v Speaker 1>to our politics, which was really interesting. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of people would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so well, like people wanted to ask us. A

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 2>couple of people were like, so who did you vote for?

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<v Speaker 2>And so what's the vibe over there? And it really

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting to see or to and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>people like American people, I mean Portuguese people and Spanish people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to be abroad so close right after the

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<v Speaker 2>election and see how much news of our election had

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<v Speaker 2>reached other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, I happened to be filming. I forget where

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<v Speaker 1>we were in the world the first time Trump was elected,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember remember being at the airport and people

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<v Speaker 1>coming up and just they would know where Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. You realize how heavy of an influence our

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<v Speaker 1>culture and our politics and our news has around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Even in small towns. People kind of just want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on and like, what's the vibe over there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is why you know, We've talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>media specifically related to the election on several podcasts, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's why I feel so adamant about the need for

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<v Speaker 2>the media to become better and get back to really

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<v Speaker 2>being a vehicle of discovering the actual truth and seeking

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<v Speaker 2>actual truth because you kind of realize that, like our

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 2>news stories become the sources for news broadcasts in other countries,

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<v Speaker 2>like about American news and the way that that message dissipates.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's so much power in that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We were kind of talking to like to one gentleman,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's interesting he was talking about Portugal, sounding like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just from him, Portugal having a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the same concerns a lot of Americans have about immigration

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<v Speaker 2>issues and economic issues and and cultural issues and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was just like explaining to us the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he sees he saw Trump and he saw Harris

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, and so that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a good and a beautiful trip. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>even though year later it was wonderful to celebrate and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna wrap this up because we need to go

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate you right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I really sounded depressing talking about my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think I would feel better if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't supposed to Thanksgiving. I don't think I've had

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<v Speaker 2>time to process what it is from they you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's maybe it's because we just saw Gladiator. If we

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<v Speaker 2>if we'd recorded this after I saw Wicked, I might

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<v Speaker 2>have feel better about my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Birth halfway through there, which I'd just cut my head off.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a dad joke for your holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladiator, Dad, Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>We love you and we're thankful for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, happy birthday, babe. I love you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you too. I can't wait to see what

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<v Speaker 4>you caught me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know we need to go up in our

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<v Speaker 1>presents right now. We will do this again next time

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<v Speaker 1>because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks

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