Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy hour listeners, and happy hump Day Now, Rachel,
Speaker 1: I have to say, Wednesdays are just getting so much
Speaker 1: better now that we have a batcherette back on the air,
Speaker 1: and I feel like this is the perfect time everyone
Speaker 1: needs a little midweek pick me up, and so I'm
Speaker 1: glad that it actually changed to Wednesdays for a little bit.
Speaker 1: But speaking of pick me up, so you know who
Speaker 1: else has given me a little pick me up vibe?
Speaker 1: Easy Easy everybody's favorite contestant this season. He is he
Speaker 1: He's just like so full of life and it's just
Speaker 1: like this great character. I mean, I talked about him
Speaker 1: briefly last week because he was one of the guys
Speaker 1: from the inter packages that really stuck out to me,
Speaker 1: and of course we had to have him on this
Speaker 1: week because I feel like, like I said, he's so
Speaker 1: full of life. Every time I watch him, I feel
Speaker 1: like I want to drink a Red Bull, or like
Speaker 1: chug fourteen cups of coffee or just like have an
Speaker 1: ivy of Easy in me because he's just like that
Speaker 1: lovable and it just portrays through the screen. So I
Speaker 1: can't wait to have him on and hopefully his energy
Speaker 1: rubs up on us today. I don't know how it
Speaker 1: can't right. He just seems like his energy just comes
Speaker 1: through the TV screen. And this is important for all
Speaker 1: the Bachelor happy our listeners to pay attention to. We
Speaker 1: always talk about the one who gets like first impression
Speaker 1: rows or we think has a super big connection with
Speaker 1: the lead, or the crier, or the victim or the
Speaker 1: messy one, the bully, whatever it may be. But you
Speaker 1: don't talk about the narrator. You gotta pay attention to
Speaker 1: who's narrating the season. One that means they're a favorite
Speaker 1: of the franchise to tell you right now. But two,
Speaker 1: it means their voice is important and it's respected. And
Speaker 1: if you've been watching these last two episodes, you know
Speaker 1: that Easy is the narrator. So we're so excited to
Speaker 1: have our boy Easy come on. He's going to chat
Speaker 1: about everything that went down and last night's episode and
Speaker 1: hopefully give us some inside scoop because I have some questions.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some there's some things that are missing,
Speaker 1: and hopefully Easy can fill us in on that. We'll
Speaker 1: ask him to step into his narrator role. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to have him on because you said it perfectly.
Speaker 1: He's so involved. I feel like we see so much
Speaker 1: of him, but in such a positive way, like he's
Speaker 1: not really getting involved in the drama in a bad
Speaker 1: negative way. He just is easy going. I think Claire
Speaker 1: like spending time with him, and so yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: want to pick his brain. He's been somebody that I've
Speaker 1: been wanting to talk to you for a while, so
Speaker 1: I can't wait. But before we have him on, let's
Speaker 1: do a quick little recap because we saw a lot
Speaker 1: go down last night. I didn't think that anything could
Speaker 1: really top the premiere, Like, let's be honest, there's so
Speaker 1: much that happens night one, but this episode is up
Speaker 1: there and it's only week two, so we just have
Speaker 1: to dive in. Let's start recapping from the top, because
Speaker 1: we saw this teaser go down where no surprise here,
Speaker 1: Claire and Dale got hot and heavy. But then I
Speaker 1: feel like there's pandemonium breaking loose, like all the guys
Speaker 1: are running around kind of like bashing Dale a little bit,
Speaker 1: not quite sure what's going on with their relationship. So
Speaker 1: I think we have to get into that because it's
Speaker 1: fair he's still on theme with Claire being very very
Speaker 1: into Dale. Yeah, I Mean, the thing what I do
Speaker 1: love about this season, and we kind of talked about
Speaker 1: this a little bit, is that they're giving us so much.
Speaker 1: But if they're giving us this much, that means there
Speaker 1: has to be something that we're not getting. And I
Speaker 1: also appreciate that they know, as viewers, were not dumb.
Speaker 1: There are so many rumors swirling around in regards to
Speaker 1: who's bachelorette, who's not, who picked who, all these things,
Speaker 1: and they're playing into that, which I think makes this
Speaker 1: season even more fun to watch. So we get these
Speaker 1: crazy teachers. Every promo that has come out for Claire
Speaker 1: season has been straight fire. I'm loving every single minute
Speaker 1: of I mean, here at work, we talk about it
Speaker 1: all the time. We're like, did you see the new promo?
Speaker 1: Even people who don't even watch this season or into this,
Speaker 1: you know, kudos to Bachelor franchise. Y'all are killing it.
Speaker 1: But I do have to say that I believe that
Speaker 1: some of the drama we're seeing is not quite what
Speaker 1: we think it is. Like, I feel like they're giving
Speaker 1: us all the high moments in the teaser, but it's
Speaker 1: not going to be quite what we think it is.
Speaker 1: Except for that Dell part. Right where the guys are
Speaker 1: questioning Dell. I need to understand what that's about. Well.
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because last week we kind of
Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely hit the high points on your
Speaker 1: favorite quotes. I mean when Chris Harrison says, congratulations, you've
Speaker 1: blown up the Bachelorette. But this week there's a couple
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me, one being Riley when he
Speaker 1: says there is no we, there is no us, there
Speaker 1: is no me and you. And so of course when
Speaker 1: they're showing this, they make it seem like it's for Dale.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll get into that because it's really
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's what you thought it was. I thought
Speaker 1: he was. They made it seem like he was talking
Speaker 1: to Claire. Oh, I don't know why. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I thought he was talking to Claire.
Speaker 1: One other part that stuck out to me was Joseph
Speaker 1: when he says you're crazy, And in my mind when
Speaker 1: I'm watching this back, I'm like, honey, you better not
Speaker 1: be saying this to the baucherette and you hopefully are
Speaker 1: saying this to one of the dudes, because that is
Speaker 1: not going to go over well with Claire. We know
Speaker 1: how Claire probably would react to that as any woman would,
Speaker 1: so that's something The teaser was crazy, it was leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to the imagination. So I think we should
Speaker 1: just get past that and get into the dates because
Speaker 1: I think the first date that we saw, the love
Speaker 1: Language one, was perfect for Claire, especially coming out of
Speaker 1: quarantine where she has not seen or touched anyone in months.
Speaker 1: Whoever put this date together was so smart to do
Speaker 1: it as the very very first date. Yeah, I thought, also,
Speaker 1: you know, part of watching this season is how are
Speaker 1: they going to get creative with the dates? They can't travel?
Speaker 1: What are they going to do? And then once again
Speaker 1: they knock it out of the park with this date,
Speaker 1: which was so relevant but also so fun to watch
Speaker 1: if you're a viewer, not if you're the man that
Speaker 1: are in the room. So my question to you as
Speaker 1: we first see them, you know, give words of affirmation
Speaker 1: and speak to her. Who do you think had the
Speaker 1: best speech? Oh I'm trying to think who went first?
Speaker 1: Was it? Why am I blanking on his name? Was
Speaker 1: it was Ben? And that's who impressed me the most? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So Ben win first? And I thought he I mean
Speaker 1: like he hit it the nail on the head right away.
Speaker 1: So on that date, let's just go through really quick.
Speaker 1: So for anyone not watching, it was Ben Bennett, Dale,
Speaker 1: Ivan Jordan's c Riley, Joseph, zax C, and Zach j. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben was the best. I felt like it was heartfelt.
Speaker 1: He really set the standards high, I think to begin
Speaker 1: with everything there on after that kind of fell short. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we saw Claire really wanting to hear from Dale, and
Speaker 1: you know, she's just enamored with him, She's so drawn
Speaker 1: to him, so she was excited. She mentioned in one
Speaker 1: of her interviews that she that's who she most wanted
Speaker 1: to hear from. But I think Ben her words of
Speaker 1: affirmation took the cake in that one. Did you like
Speaker 1: Dale's speech? Uh? I was underwhelmed, underwhelmed It's perfect word.
Speaker 1: He was rambling. I was. I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can only imagine how hard it is to be in
Speaker 1: a room and you hear everyone go and then you
Speaker 1: have to go. It gets all in your mind. But
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, here comes Dell, and there went Dell.
Speaker 1: I went right back to bed. Yeah, underwhelmed, perfect word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, I'm sure It's one
Speaker 1: thing to have to open up and express your feelings
Speaker 1: on a first date, like that's not common. Most people
Speaker 1: don't really get that that deep and heavy on a
Speaker 1: first date, let alone having to do it in front
Speaker 1: of multiple men that you're living with. I could see
Speaker 1: why it would be offered. I was like trying to
Speaker 1: put myself in their shoes, Like if I was on
Speaker 1: the state, what would I say. It's difficult because you
Speaker 1: don't really know this person yet, like you've only had
Speaker 1: one night with them, and so it's it would be tough. Um.
Speaker 1: So I just kept trying to remember, Like I kept
Speaker 1: I wanted them to give me more. But then I'm like,
Speaker 1: give them some grace. This is the very first date
Speaker 1: of the season. But I will say what once we
Speaker 1: got past the words of affirmation into the what I
Speaker 1: thought it was cute? What was it? The touch? Not
Speaker 1: the touch before that where they had to go back
Speaker 1: to the villa get a little gift? Was it acts
Speaker 1: not access service? Yes it was gifts, Yes it was gifts. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that was cute. I thought it was thoughtful.
Speaker 1: Some of them brought up cute gifts, like the guy
Speaker 1: with the chess piece and the first baseball when Riley
Speaker 1: gave her the or his last baseball game that he
Speaker 1: ever played. That was sweet. Um, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: obviously it was. It was planned, right, because why the
Speaker 1: hell would Riley have bring his baseball with him, right?
Speaker 1: Why the hell would Zach Jay have boxes on boxes
Speaker 1: on boxes. I was Rachel, if this, if you were
Speaker 1: one of the contestants on the state, what would you
Speaker 1: have brought the lead? Well, one we I would hope
Speaker 1: that we were prepped like these guys. I'm assuming were
Speaker 1: to bring something and that you know what, I take
Speaker 1: this back, I'm pretty sure that they did say to us,
Speaker 1: bring something that means a lot to you that you
Speaker 1: want to carry with you. I honestly don't know what
Speaker 1: I would have brought. That's a that's a I was
Speaker 1: thinking that as I was watching. I don't know, Becca,
Speaker 1: do you know? Well, first that would be minnow, But
Speaker 1: I'm not to give her off right because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to go too deep. Yeause, I don't know you
Speaker 1: like that yet. Well, this is so embarrassing. I've talked
Speaker 1: about this on my Instagram, but I still sleep with
Speaker 1: my baby blanket and and that's like the most important
Speaker 1: thing probably after mine to me in my house. But
Speaker 1: I would also not part with that. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know you well enough. You are not getting
Speaker 1: a piece of this baby. I would hope Claire gave
Speaker 1: those things back, right, like if you didn't pick some
Speaker 1: one of these men that was on the date, I
Speaker 1: really hope you gave them back. Surely, surely, and don't
Speaker 1: be ashamed. I still sleep with a care bear named
Speaker 1: Grumpy and part with it. But yeah, I guess physical
Speaker 1: touch we have to get into that because that was
Speaker 1: that was the moment of the stage. So did I
Speaker 1: miss that none of the guys kissed her during physical touch?
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it. Some of them might think
Speaker 1: kissed her cheek and her neck and got in there.
Speaker 1: No one. Well, that's what I was wondering. I was
Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to go in for the kiss, because
Speaker 1: there's always that one person, and no one did. And
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was one of the up front work.
Speaker 1: Chris is like, Okay, use other parts of your body,
Speaker 1: like really show her, but just don't, you know, go
Speaker 1: for the gold at this point, Yeah, because I probably
Speaker 1: just would have kissed. So this made it a little
Speaker 1: bit more sensual. Okay, I changed my mind. That could
Speaker 1: just change my mind. I like that. And I love
Speaker 1: that she has a strong sense of smell and she
Speaker 1: could smell them because I'm I'm the same way when
Speaker 1: it comes to people. But I thought it was so
Speaker 1: funny to watch like Ivan, who was clearly uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: the entire stay. Honestly, I would have turned and put
Speaker 1: my head in a corner, you know, didn't did anybody
Speaker 1: try to look away, did anybody try to cover their
Speaker 1: eyes like her ears or whatever? And then like such
Speaker 1: rule followers, right, Like I would have turned around and
Speaker 1: face the corner. Yeah, yeah, I would have been hiding
Speaker 1: behind a tree or something. Also, I feel like if
Speaker 1: I was one of the contestants and had to blindfold
Speaker 1: and touch somebody, I would like get a lockerroun. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I would go for the butt grab or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and you know wanted to we got to
Speaker 1: talk about another failure on Dale's part. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at this. Let's go back to the gifts Delle gave
Speaker 1: her puppy perfume. Now I'm now, I'm I'm I'm I'm analyzing.
Speaker 1: I'm giving Dale a harder time, and I'm analyzing him
Speaker 1: with a keen I like with with I'm really like giving,
Speaker 1: like scrutinizing him because you know, the rumors are out
Speaker 1: there swirling, so I'm obviously anybody who's watching is like
Speaker 1: z rode in on Dell. And for goodness sake, she said,
Speaker 1: I met my husband after and I was like, puppy perfume.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that that was a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: did he did he just make that up? Puppy perfume?
Speaker 1: Just once again, and the words of Becca Koufren under wow,
Speaker 1: just oh my gosh. Okay. So we go onto the
Speaker 1: group date that night. Um, I think the guy that
Speaker 1: stood the most to me was Riley. I mean I
Speaker 1: really like Eiley. I just I liked that he took
Speaker 1: the moment to still have this physical touch, like to
Speaker 1: still dance with her and just make her feel calm.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she was. Her thoughts were stirring in
Speaker 1: her head because she thought none of these dudes wanted
Speaker 1: to hang out with her and talk to her that night.
Speaker 1: So I thought he did a great job of showing up.
Speaker 1: I never had that experience. Did that happened to you? No? No,
Speaker 1: But I always thought it was thankfully somebody always pulled
Speaker 1: me away right away. I think I just realized the
Speaker 1: importance of time. But yeah, I found it very very
Speaker 1: strange that everyone just sat there for a little bit. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: why didn't any of the guys step up? But I
Speaker 1: don't It obviously was real because it noted it affected Claire.
Speaker 1: She couldn't even have a conversation with whoever it was
Speaker 1: she was talking to. I don't remember, because the way
Speaker 1: the guys were acting, and I like to think that,
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe Adele, you know, let me get
Speaker 1: some dell some positive points here. You know, probably didn't
Speaker 1: want to step up because he had had so much
Speaker 1: time with her, and maybe he was trying to give
Speaker 1: the other guys a chance. But still, like, it's so weird,
Speaker 1: and I also find that extremely unattractive that no one
Speaker 1: stepped up and grabbed her. Yeah I know, I know
Speaker 1: I will. And it's like the people by now kind
Speaker 1: of know the name of the game. Every night, when
Speaker 1: you have a moment, you go for it. So I
Speaker 1: didn't understand why everyone was just sitting back. I felt
Speaker 1: so bad for her, But I think once she addressed it,
Speaker 1: that's the thing Claire is so great about addressing these
Speaker 1: men in any sort of given scenario. And because I
Speaker 1: probably would not have reacted that way. I would have
Speaker 1: said some like weird awkward joke throwing myself under the bus.
Speaker 1: And so I really like how assertive she is. And
Speaker 1: they listened. They took it to heart so well, some
Speaker 1: of them listened, not all of them. Yes, and you
Speaker 1: had what do you think about him? Because like this
Speaker 1: is where we start to see his true colors. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan and I'm not gonna lie. Oh even
Speaker 1: night one, I wasn't a huge fan. I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about him in the drama with who was it
Speaker 1: last week? Tyler? See I mean Granny Like that wasn't
Speaker 1: really drama. Yeah, I just I'm not a fan. And
Speaker 1: he's starting to obviously rub me the wrong way. We
Speaker 1: see him slowly, slowly sparrowed onward real quick in this episode.
Speaker 1: So we saw Riley get the group date rose, and
Speaker 1: then we go on to the one on one, the
Speaker 1: first one on one of the season with Jason. I'm
Speaker 1: really glad she picked Jason for this one. I really
Speaker 1: liked the date that they had planned. I love the
Speaker 1: date that Claire and Jason had because it might have
Speaker 1: been one of the deepest dates I've ever seen a
Speaker 1: contestant hat, especially the first one. Yes, yeah, and were
Speaker 1: you shocked she picked Jason because we know he came
Speaker 1: out with the belly and he was the pregnant guy,
Speaker 1: and like that could have gone horribly wrong. But obviously
Speaker 1: it did something to Claren. It really really impressed her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think she picked it. I mean, I will
Speaker 1: say I was shocked because, yeah, at night one, he
Speaker 1: just seemed so humorous and easy going. But she did
Speaker 1: say she saw herself in him, and they had a
Speaker 1: lot of similar tendencies of you know, kind of resorting
Speaker 1: to humor when things aren't always going their way or
Speaker 1: as planned or if things get tough. So I think
Speaker 1: that's why she did choose him. And yes, it was
Speaker 1: definitely for the first week and the first one on
Speaker 1: one it was heavy. I feel like the things that
Speaker 1: they talked about and admitted to each other and opened
Speaker 1: up about our things that we don't see and tell
Speaker 1: right like a second date maybe you know, like even
Speaker 1: closer to hometowns. I would say it was a lot
Speaker 1: and so but I really enjoyed Jason. He pleasantly surprised me.
Speaker 1: He was able to do what she was asking together
Speaker 1: without I think getting awkward or shutting it down. So
Speaker 1: I feel like they were a good team. I loved
Speaker 1: the fact that they burned the dress. Yeah, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be there, right there with them. I still have
Speaker 1: my dress from the Bachelor season when I got engaged to,
Speaker 1: and it's just sitting there and I'm like, I should
Speaker 1: have been there. Can I just like have extra love
Speaker 1: your dress that you got engaged to. Yeah, listen, nothing
Speaker 1: but a word. I'll come over tonight and we can
Speaker 1: burn that sucker. Yeah, no, we should. Somebody actually DMed
Speaker 1: me like last year and she was getting married for
Speaker 1: a second time and wanted a black dress for the
Speaker 1: wedding and she's like, can I have it? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you want that, Juju, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think you want to watch out the aisle with this dress.
Speaker 1: And so but I'm all I'm all for. I've talked
Speaker 1: about this many times, like in the past with my
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend's back Minnesota, we've had burn parties when
Speaker 1: people break up with somebody, and so that this is
Speaker 1: my kind of dates. Do it. Let's do it. I
Speaker 1: love it. We'll plant to be continued, you guys, we
Speaker 1: will document on the socials. But back to Jason and Claire.
Speaker 1: What I just like, kind of like piggybacking on what
Speaker 1: you said. What I loved is that Jason wasn't afraid
Speaker 1: to tell or maybe he was, but he powered through
Speaker 1: that to tell Claire some of the things like using
Speaker 1: where it's like manipulative and selfish and unable to love
Speaker 1: how people have described him, and he trusted her with that,
Speaker 1: and then she didn't break that trust, like he didn't
Speaker 1: scare her by telling her those things. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was a really beautiful moment between the two. And
Speaker 1: even if Claire doesn't pick Jason at the end of this,
Speaker 1: I think that Jason can always look at that moment
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I don't have to be
Speaker 1: afraid to tell women you know some of the scary things,
Speaker 1: because the right one won't run away from it. I
Speaker 1: just I loved that that whole moment once again, and
Speaker 1: kudos on a great date. It was meaningful and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a lot of what we're seeing in
Speaker 1: these these episodes. Like this episode particularly, we saw deep,
Speaker 1: rich conversations and vagination is always saying we don't have
Speaker 1: anything to talk about, and that might be true over
Speaker 1: these last couple of seasons, but you cannot say that
Speaker 1: about Claire's season, right, And we'll get to that when
Speaker 1: that we saw that happen in this episode, m M.
Speaker 1: And maybe chalk it up to and I don't even
Speaker 1: want to say because Claire's older. I think she just
Speaker 1: is mature. She's lived life, she knows what she wants,
Speaker 1: and so are these guys. They're a little bit older.
Speaker 1: And so I love the depth that we're seeing. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's something that we haven't really had much
Speaker 1: in the past couple of seasons, and so it's so
Speaker 1: refreshing to see. It's so funny we pivot from this
Speaker 1: very heavy, deep, you know, connective date to strip dodgeball.
Speaker 1: It's called a balance, right, Like that was a little
Speaker 1: heavy for us. That was a lot. There was screaming,
Speaker 1: there was burning, there was you know, like the breaking
Speaker 1: of the tablets. So we needed to lighten the mood
Speaker 1: and for this we thank you. I thank you for
Speaker 1: the shrimp dodgeball. So we see the Blue team just
Speaker 1: get demolished by the Red team. And what I also
Speaker 1: loved about this is that Claire was like, Nope, I'm
Speaker 1: setting the rules and this is what I want because
Speaker 1: this is what you see. And I know, I know
Speaker 1: people are going to have their opinions on the fact
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some Yosef's in the room. We'll just
Speaker 1: put it that way. You know, you're either a Claire
Speaker 1: or a Yosef in this situation. And I love what
Speaker 1: Claire did. I thought it was it was her decision.
Speaker 1: It was empowering. She set her own roles. If you
Speaker 1: didn't want to play by them, you didn't have to.
Speaker 1: We all have a choice here, and I love that
Speaker 1: the guys were just like having fun with it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't to me. And because I really want to hit
Speaker 1: on this because I feel like it's going to be
Speaker 1: an issue. It was jest and I didn't really see
Speaker 1: it sexualized in a way that I know, like in
Speaker 1: the way that Joseph talked about it or being humiliating.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that way. And I'm curious as to your thought. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was all in good fun. I never got I
Speaker 1: never got cringey like. It never to me was borderline
Speaker 1: like this is inappropriate. I think the guys were laughing,
Speaker 1: having fun. Claire and Chris were laughing having fun. I
Speaker 1: mean like they weren't fully naked. They had these little
Speaker 1: what like, yeah, they were strapped. They were strapped in
Speaker 1: you know. And there were and there were black boxes
Speaker 1: for all the viewers at home, the kids maybe watching.
Speaker 1: Maybe this one will be rated TV fourteen maybe an
Speaker 1: m A. I don't know, I do it. That were late.
Speaker 1: I did want to see more. I did like the
Speaker 1: black boxes. I wanted to see the box. I wanted
Speaker 1: to see what we're working with. A friend you not
Speaker 1: a girl? I think it was who was? She talked
Speaker 1: about Kenny when she was like just look at his
Speaker 1: butt and Chris just looks and I'm like, who're yousuming
Speaker 1: on this one little bit? Poor Chris. He should add
Speaker 1: on sunglasses or something like, talk about I know he hated.
Speaker 1: This worst group date ever for Chris Harrison that one
Speaker 1: think of what he's been subjected to. He has to
Speaker 1: watch all of these men blindfold them and slowly essentially
Speaker 1: touched Claire, and then on the flip side, half these
Speaker 1: men have to strip down to their little skivvies and hey,
Speaker 1: guarantee you Chris, if you ever need somebody at a
Speaker 1: host for the next season of the bab shout for
Speaker 1: dates like this, you know who to call? This is yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where you call in the sub you tag team,
Speaker 1: you get out of there, because I guarantee you he's
Speaker 1: in contract negotiations after this season. Karen t it okay,
Speaker 1: So we all had We definitely all had a good
Speaker 1: time on that group date, but there were some people
Speaker 1: who didn't. You know, when the losers went home, which
Speaker 1: can I just say really quickly that I appreciate it
Speaker 1: that finally the franchise acknowledges the winners of the group
Speaker 1: date and doesn't let everybody go on the group date.
Speaker 1: I felt victim of that. I understood Cristel when she
Speaker 1: was upset about that. It was nice to see the
Speaker 1: losers go home. So they go home and they calls
Speaker 1: a big star, not a big star, a star with
Speaker 1: one person, and that was Joseph, who was clearly upset. Oh, no,
Speaker 1: two of them, because Blake, Blake, Blake. It's like a
Speaker 1: sad little puppy. It's it's like but it's but I
Speaker 1: but no, like it's here for the wrong reasons. Was
Speaker 1: a person, it would be Brandon and we'll we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. But if here for the right reasons was
Speaker 1: a person, it would be Canadian Blake. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: about him, so his feelings are clearly heard. Love that
Speaker 1: they made him do the interview naked. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a strap on back right. Shout out to the producer
Speaker 1: behind the camera for that. That was really funny to see.
Speaker 1: So we get to the cocktail party and the men
Speaker 1: are very grateful because it's a limited number of men,
Speaker 1: so they're happy about the time that they're going to
Speaker 1: get to spend with Claire uninterrupted by the other However,
Speaker 1: many men went home on the date. Six seven men,
Speaker 1: all right, and then we see we see Blake, Canadian
Speaker 1: Blake crash the date. I called it. I knew what
Speaker 1: was going to happen when they were showing the guys
Speaker 1: meander home and they were walking naked, looking all bummed.
Speaker 1: I knew because from last week when Claire talked about
Speaker 1: him breaking the rules, I had this famous like he's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna crash the cocktail party tonight. I was
Speaker 1: completely lost. Good job, Becca, I didn't see it at all,
Speaker 1: but he crashes and it looks like it really crashed
Speaker 1: on him. Right, Claire didn't seem like she seemed caught
Speaker 1: off guard. She seemed uncomfortable. She really didn't seem like.
Speaker 1: It was really cringeworthy, especially when he went in for
Speaker 1: the kiss, like he really tried to go all like
Speaker 1: and Claire's stiff armed him. I mean, I was shocked,
Speaker 1: I thought, Mike, I'm honestly surprised he didn't just leave
Speaker 1: that date, hop in the Cadillac and go home. Oh
Speaker 1: he was shaking it, he was. He was so sure
Speaker 1: he was going home. What hope did he have after that? All? Right?
Speaker 1: Then we see Brandon, somebody I thought was a front
Speaker 1: runner and all of this, and was so shocked. Then
Speaker 1: he started to look like me from Calfish to me
Speaker 1: as the date continued to go on. It was weird.
Speaker 1: I never saw that before us on need So we
Speaker 1: get to Brandon money here for the wrong reasons, here
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. If it was a person, yikes,
Speaker 1: you take on Brandon, I just don't understand, like, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless on how much you know about the lead, like,
Speaker 1: you still can talk more about them than just their looks,
Speaker 1: regardless of who it is. And he falls so short.
Speaker 1: He was like already buried underneath the ground, Like I
Speaker 1: just I don't understand it, Like you are a man,
Speaker 1: like you clearly made it this far, Like you went
Speaker 1: through casting talking to people about being on the Bachelort
Speaker 1: So like why would you sat down with Claire and
Speaker 1: she asks you why you're here and he just goes, well,
Speaker 1: you're a beautiful woman. It's like, I'm glad she sent
Speaker 1: him home. I was sitting there thinking this is so
Speaker 1: cringeworthy and he could do so much better than this.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you're attractive and you don't
Speaker 1: have to put any effort in with women because they
Speaker 1: always come to you. That was his He just tells
Speaker 1: people what they want to hear. They don't challenge him
Speaker 1: on that. That's what I love about Claire, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's what we're going to continue to see.
Speaker 1: Claire's like, you know what, I know who I am,
Speaker 1: and I'm calling you on the BS. Yeah, he deserved
Speaker 1: no chances. It was very matter of fact. Claire wasted
Speaker 1: no time and I love she didn't skip a beat.
Speaker 1: She sent him home. After that, it was the worst,
Speaker 1: but also so like for Claire, it was a power
Speaker 1: move for him it was like bru like go home
Speaker 1: with your tail tucked in between your legs. And honestly, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think the guys were shocked. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like maybe maybe that's just him, Like like you said,
Speaker 1: he's just used to kind of sitting back, like good looking,
Speaker 1: not putting in much effort. And yeah he's gotten good rings.
Speaker 1: He's the one. He's be Money, right. We had so
Speaker 1: much hope for him when we were going through bios.
Speaker 1: Now I think so, and now be Money sounds cringe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he's a cringe e dude. Now I know. I
Speaker 1: know exactly the type of man he is the way
Speaker 1: that they're portraying Bennett, I believe with the scarf and
Speaker 1: the rolls Royce and all of that, that's probably really
Speaker 1: Brandon and Bennett's like just like a fun loving guy,
Speaker 1: which is why they can joke with him about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a wet towel personality, nothing to offer,
Speaker 1: and then to say to Claire, can we not talk
Speaker 1: about that? I do not talk about me like this.
Speaker 1: This guy is like awful. I wanted to like knock
Speaker 1: on his face on my screen and be like hello
Speaker 1: Earth to Brandon. Do you know where they are called
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette Welcome nothing there, nothing there. Yeah, so rightfully,
Speaker 1: so he went home. Thank god, he didn't make it
Speaker 1: another second minute rose ceremony on this show. So the
Speaker 1: group date ends, we see her talk to the guys
Speaker 1: and she ends up giving the rose to Chasen, and
Speaker 1: then basically it ends, we see them go away to
Speaker 1: the final cocktail party. We obviously did not have a
Speaker 1: rose ceremony, but she did give Blake the rose to
Speaker 1: keep him safe because, like I said, he was shaking
Speaker 1: in his boots. He was convinced he was going home.
Speaker 1: One thing that stuck out to me in the versation
Speaker 1: between Claire and Blake when she said, I appreciate you
Speaker 1: kind of breaking the rules. You know, you've reached out
Speaker 1: to me before the season starts, and I appreciated that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making the effort now to come see me.
Speaker 1: Just don't make it and every night thing which I like,
Speaker 1: Like she said, the boundaries. That's all she had to say.
Speaker 1: She didn't have to go into it more. And so
Speaker 1: I think she's very good about setting boundaries with these
Speaker 1: men and being very articulate about what she likes and
Speaker 1: what she's looking for, but you know, don't cross her.
Speaker 1: I love it. Clara is a boss and that's how
Speaker 1: I feel after we finish every single episode, like we
Speaker 1: already knew that, but now the rest of y'all are
Speaker 1: figuring that out. So I feel like it's that time too.
Speaker 1: We can only do so much when we're observing from
Speaker 1: a distance. Tobacca, I feel like it's that time to
Speaker 1: get that inside scoop that tea. I'm telling you, my
Speaker 1: pot has been stirring. Okay, you know we've talked to Claire.
Speaker 1: I was able to interview her with extra and I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to get all the tea that I can.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy that for the first time, we're getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to somebody from the season who
Speaker 1: had a front row seat to all this drama, to
Speaker 1: this season we've never seen before. We've already talked about him,
Speaker 1: none other than the narrator of Claire's season. Now he's
Speaker 1: going to come on and narrate this podcast. At this point,
Speaker 1: let's just turn this show over to easy Welcome. How
Speaker 1: are you? I am good, I'm excited. Um, I'm in
Speaker 1: a lovey dovey mood. I will say that I've been
Speaker 1: listening to some good love jams all day. Why do
Speaker 1: do what's on your playlist? I'm in my mood, so
Speaker 1: I've been listening to some Joe to see Oh I
Speaker 1: love you for life? So you know, Alicia Keys, I've
Speaker 1: been as the music soul child. I'm in my feelings
Speaker 1: right now. Easy. Why do I get the feeling that
Speaker 1: you're always in this lovey dovey mood? Yeah, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy it. Let's keep you. I have
Speaker 1: to start out asking you. You are the first official
Speaker 1: guy from this season to be on our podcast. How
Speaker 1: does it feel? All right? Really? Yes? And this is
Speaker 1: the way we want it. I'm honored, okay, all right, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is the way we want it because we were
Speaker 1: talking about you before you got here, because that's what
Speaker 1: we do on podcasts. Right, We're talking about you, but
Speaker 1: in all positive ways because you are the narrator of
Speaker 1: the season. But what we love is that you are
Speaker 1: narrating the show. And I feel like the narrator is
Speaker 1: an underrated role. I don't know if you realize that
Speaker 1: when you were going through it, but it's a role
Speaker 1: of someone who's respected on both sides, like in the
Speaker 1: house and by producers, and it means that like you
Speaker 1: have a lot to say, like good things to say,
Speaker 1: good observations. Did you feel that when you were going
Speaker 1: through the show. I appreciate that, Like I felt that
Speaker 1: I was just I was just kind of just being
Speaker 1: me and like the way I kind of lived my
Speaker 1: life is just with no no filters and no like
Speaker 1: if I feel something, I say it and if I like,
Speaker 1: I don't hold anything back. So I think that kind
Speaker 1: of just was just genuine too, like who I am.
Speaker 1: But no, I didn't feel that. I didn't feel like
Speaker 1: I was like the narrator anything like that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: hopefully it's a good thing. It's great as it's a
Speaker 1: very good thing. I will say you have And I
Speaker 1: was telling Rachel this, you have such a good mix
Speaker 1: of being present and the camera loves you, the audience
Speaker 1: loves you. I feel like your energy is magnetic through
Speaker 1: the screen. But you like you're so involved with the guys,
Speaker 1: but in such a good way, Like you aren't dramatic
Speaker 1: in a negative way, and so it's very refreshing to
Speaker 1: watch like you. You don't seem like somebody who I
Speaker 1: want to say, it's like a camera horn, just like
Speaker 1: trying to fight and a camera time. Yeah. But how
Speaker 1: is it watching yourself now back on the big screen?
Speaker 1: Obviously you lived it, but is it weird watching you? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: it's it's weird because you you live through these moments
Speaker 1: and it's almost like every conversation and every day you
Speaker 1: remember in your mind how it went, and then it's
Speaker 1: like you relive it and you pick up on the
Speaker 1: smallest things. I don't know if you guys have seen
Speaker 1: that too, but like it's just different and and um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like even kind of just like the
Speaker 1: interviews and seeing people's feedback and um, being able to
Speaker 1: kind of like pick up them like all right, maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't go over too well, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that could have been a little bit better. Um, but no,
Speaker 1: it's good. What what's better for you? Was it? Is
Speaker 1: it easier watching it or having lived through it? Um?
Speaker 1: Having to watch it is is tough. I will say that,
Speaker 1: like it's it's Um, I don't know, like you you'll
Speaker 1: see like on the like let's say, like a group
Speaker 1: that you weren't on, and you'll see like everything that
Speaker 1: they did, and like all these like little interactions that
Speaker 1: they had. It's almost like damn, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: day like that, Like okay, oh like so it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a different point of view. Um and then um,
Speaker 1: obviously the good stuff you're you know, you you still
Speaker 1: get the butter lies and all the stuff that you
Speaker 1: felt in the moment um. But yeah, watching back, like
Speaker 1: all the different stuff we didn't get to see is
Speaker 1: is new. So let's talk about that. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: going to go there, but but now you just you
Speaker 1: just open open that open that limo door, open that
Speaker 1: little door and gave me a step segue, so I'll
Speaker 1: step into it. So you obviously don't get to see
Speaker 1: the limo entrances because you know, you do yours and
Speaker 1: you bounce. Maybe y'all look through a window and see
Speaker 1: some things going on, but but now you have seen them.
Speaker 1: Don't you think about Claire's response when Dell walked out
Speaker 1: the limo. Um, I will say this like it made
Speaker 1: like every I felt like everything made sense like and um,
Speaker 1: I've always been one to say that, like if you
Speaker 1: feel the way you feel, um, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's genuine and you it's okay to see somebody and
Speaker 1: be like I see a future with them. Um but yeah,
Speaker 1: like everything made sense. I didn't know it was that good.
Speaker 1: Um but um yeah, she was definitely in her feelings
Speaker 1: and um you can almost just tell by the way
Speaker 1: she hugged him. Um. And just like the neck like
Speaker 1: the neck hugs, like you know when you really wrap
Speaker 1: your hands around somebody's neck like that that means something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it, you know, like back neck back like because
Speaker 1: like I was watching and I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel anything on my neck, and I thought I had
Speaker 1: like the neck hug. You know. I do it to
Speaker 1: Brian all the time. I do Brian all the time.
Speaker 1: I always grab his neck at the back of his neck. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's a thing. And I didn't even realize I did that. Damn.
Speaker 1: Next time I go on a date, i'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to see if I get the neck hug the net
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I don't do it. You do it?
Speaker 1: Men know to do that, You have to do it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you like you're you're supposed like if that's how
Speaker 1: you know, Like, oh, she was she was feeling it
Speaker 1: or like if you get like the friend hug with
Speaker 1: the pat Yeah, but like the boom boom. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know that's now we are friends. Yeah. Um, question, how
Speaker 1: did you get on the show? Like what what made
Speaker 1: you want to do the show? Were you a fan
Speaker 1: of the show before? We need the details? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I actually watched the show before, um in college, just
Speaker 1: kind of like with my teammates back at A and
Speaker 1: M football players love it. Yeah and wait Texas and
Speaker 1: oh Texas, A and M. Come on now about Texas side?
Speaker 1: Do we have disrespect you on my podcast? Are you
Speaker 1: from Texas? Yeah? I'm from Allen, Texas. You're from Dallas
Speaker 1: speaking of Yes, sorry, Like I did not even know this,
Speaker 1: so Rachel you, Um, I want to say, you know
Speaker 1: my receiver coach, um d Rob. I felt like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I call him twin. That's my twin. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you call twin. Yes. This is the biggest state, and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's such a small town. Everyone knows people.
Speaker 1: It's weird yeah black people, Yeah, it's oh, it really
Speaker 1: is small, Like it really is a small, even smaller
Speaker 1: for black people. I feel like not like we're not there.
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's your your two degrees separation
Speaker 1: from everyone. It's weird. Yeah, where are you based? So
Speaker 1: I'm in Newport Beach, Um, so yeah, I'm in. I'm out.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I moved out to Orange County, um randomly,
Speaker 1: so yeah I'm here. Okay. So before I rudely and no,
Speaker 1: you rudely interrupted me by talking about Texas A and
Speaker 1: m oh wow wow. How did you get on the show? Though? Um? Yeah, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody from the franchise reached out to me. And at first, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I've watched the show before and I've loved the
Speaker 1: show and I'm like a crazy, hopeless romantic and I
Speaker 1: love love stories and all that type of mushy gushy stuff,
Speaker 1: and so at first I thought somebody was like, you know,
Speaker 1: like kind of like testing me to see like where
Speaker 1: I was at. Um. And then like we started talking
Speaker 1: about you know what I you know, what love is
Speaker 1: and like what I see and a wife and all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, and that's when I was like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of real, um, and just just kind of
Speaker 1: having those conversations about you know what I was looking for. Um,
Speaker 1: that kind of led into a lot of other stuff
Speaker 1: and it was just right. It was perfect. Um, Anybody
Speaker 1: that knows me knows that this is like the perfect, um,
Speaker 1: I guess love story for me. I'm a living the
Speaker 1: moment type of person and I go with adventures and
Speaker 1: um doing all this type of stuff. So um, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: I want to go off of that because you seem
Speaker 1: obviously living the moment, just such an no pun intended,
Speaker 1: easy going guy. Intended intended yes, and you just like
Speaker 1: you know I've said it before, but your energy is
Speaker 1: just contagious. So for you personally, what was it like
Speaker 1: living first of all, at this resort that's a thousand
Speaker 1: degrees with a bunch of other dudes essentially competing for
Speaker 1: just one woman's heart. How was that for you personally? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: it's it was so um. Like I it was somewhat
Speaker 1: like football, because it's like you have a bunch of
Speaker 1: like alpha males and a bunch of dudes that are
Speaker 1: in the same room, living in the same house, and
Speaker 1: you know, have the same goals or whatever. Um, But
Speaker 1: it was so different because there's so many different personalities.
Speaker 1: One thing I appreciated about the show is everybody had
Speaker 1: like a different viewpoint on like the same thing, and
Speaker 1: everybody had their way of doing something. Everybody had their
Speaker 1: way of talking to Claire. Everybody had different things that
Speaker 1: were specific to them and the competition aspect. At first,
Speaker 1: I will say it was very chill and like nobody
Speaker 1: knew really how everything went. And then like it got real,
Speaker 1: like it amped up a little bit and you had
Speaker 1: to like really figure out where you're at and really
Speaker 1: think about the time you're spending and everything that you
Speaker 1: were doing to make yourself stand out. So you rubbed
Speaker 1: Claire's feet, It stood out to me. You said where
Speaker 1: you stand out? And I think and you rubbed Claire's feet,
Speaker 1: is that your go to move or was like she
Speaker 1: you saw her maybe lamping or complaining what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you gotta be attentive. You know. That's one thing
Speaker 1: I have learned. You have to pay attention. And so, um,
Speaker 1: Claire was like it was it was a long day.
Speaker 1: Like it was like and you guys know how it goes.
Speaker 1: It's it was just a long day of like a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff and um we were talking and she
Speaker 1: was just you know, she was like, oh yo, like
Speaker 1: I'm I've been standing all day, you know, my my
Speaker 1: my feet are my feet are killing me. And so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a very like I want you
Speaker 1: to feel good regardless like whether however I do that
Speaker 1: is is is a different thing. But I want to
Speaker 1: go above and beyond to like make you feel um,
Speaker 1: you know, the way that you deserve. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was. That was a moment where I just, I
Speaker 1: don't know, started to get a rubbing, a little rubbing.
Speaker 1: Hey it hurts nobody. Well, I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: So this put it down in my notes perfect because
Speaker 1: you are one way. And then we saw a completely
Speaker 1: opp sits side to another man, Brandon, who couldn't who
Speaker 1: did not seem attentive whatsoever, couldn't really hold a conversation
Speaker 1: with Claire. When you watched his conversation with Claire go down,
Speaker 1: were you surprised and what was going through your mind
Speaker 1: when you watched it back? Oh my god, if you
Speaker 1: need to teach him some pointers, I don't even know
Speaker 1: where to start. Like so Brandon, all day he was
Speaker 1: talking about how he wanted to talk to Claire and
Speaker 1: like he wanted the time, and he wanted to get
Speaker 1: in there and talk to her, and like even on
Speaker 1: the date, he like he tried to pull her a
Speaker 1: couple of times and so he was just very aggressive
Speaker 1: on that date. And I've always said, like, you have
Speaker 1: to be who you are first, Like if you're not
Speaker 1: an aggressive person, don't be aggressive. If you're not like
Speaker 1: a shy person, don't try to act shy because that's
Speaker 1: what you think that she likes. And so when so
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, well he has something to say to her,
Speaker 1: like he really needs to get this off of his chest.
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna go out there and do it. Um.
Speaker 1: And then when he got his time, like watching his
Speaker 1: time UM was one thing. But he told us he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah I did, like I messed up, like Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready, like I I you know, I I
Speaker 1: think I ruined that like not ready to be on
Speaker 1: this show and like date her, not ready, no, like
Speaker 1: not ready for the moment, not ready to like talk
Speaker 1: to her and like not ready to to really um
Speaker 1: go in. And I guess say what he was gonna
Speaker 1: say was this after he put both feet in his
Speaker 1: mouth or but like what yeah, this was this was
Speaker 1: after So this was absolutely oh waits we saw him
Speaker 1: go home right away. Yeah, he came back and talk
Speaker 1: to you guys. Yeah, so so he so he was
Speaker 1: like I think I think I just messed up. We
Speaker 1: were like, yo, who like messed up? Like what dude,
Speaker 1: It's okay, Like you know, conversations when you're when you're
Speaker 1: in this environment, it's tough to um, you know, in
Speaker 1: the limited amount of time that you have, it's tough
Speaker 1: to communicate everything you want to communicate. It's it is
Speaker 1: what it is, um. And so yeah, things might not
Speaker 1: go as smooth as you want them too, but I
Speaker 1: mean it's gonna be okay. But um, watch like watching it, Uh, brother,
Speaker 1: can you can you say something any like? Like it was?
Speaker 1: It was a train wreck, Like I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know like where he went wrong, but like I felt
Speaker 1: like I'm watching I wanted to reach into the screen
Speaker 1: and like shake them and be like you it's okay,
Speaker 1: use your words man. Well he did use them. He
Speaker 1: basically said you're pretty and that's all I know about you.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about something else? Quote from him, Actually
Speaker 1: this is why we need easy as a coach to
Speaker 1: train these men on what to do on being attentive.
Speaker 1: I was like what like and and what okay? And
Speaker 1: so jumping on another thing. What I thought was so
Speaker 1: cool about that too, is like Claire gave him so
Speaker 1: many chances to correct his mistake, Like she she was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe he messed up, Like here is an opportunity for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: was there something that you saw about me? Like maybe I,
Speaker 1: you know, have these great qualities. Maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm ambitious, Maybe it's I, you know, love. People may
Speaker 1: like what is it about me? And like the fact
Speaker 1: that he wasn't able to articulate anything, to still say anything,
Speaker 1: I thought was was shocking. So I mean that was
Speaker 1: I think he's used to talking about himself well and
Speaker 1: that's why he couldn't talk about her, even picking apart
Speaker 1: his body language in that conversation, he sits down, he
Speaker 1: like kind of leans back, and she's just like she's
Speaker 1: like pulling anything out of him, and he's just so
Speaker 1: shut down. I want to ask you this easy from
Speaker 1: a male perspective, because you're the first guy that we've
Speaker 1: had on season started. I'll try to represent I'll try
Speaker 1: to represent well. I feel like you're You're a good
Speaker 1: one to ask this because for me, it just as
Speaker 1: a female watching Claire. She's such a powerhouse. She's so inspiring.
Speaker 1: I love how she she says what she needs to say,
Speaker 1: but does it in a respectful way. Like I just
Speaker 1: I'm very inspired by her. And now as a man
Speaker 1: who was able to witness that firsthand, you know, interact
Speaker 1: interactions with you and also these other men, what's your
Speaker 1: take on that? Do you do you have those same
Speaker 1: feelings when you watch her and and do you have
Speaker 1: just this most respect for her? Like what's it like
Speaker 1: as a man watching her? Um? Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was refreshing, like and that's something that drew me closer
Speaker 1: to her, because like when she says something, she's not
Speaker 1: like dancing around anything, and especially especially like let's go
Speaker 1: back to that that Brandon situation, Like she clearly it
Speaker 1: wasn't what she wanted and it wasn't the way that
Speaker 1: she wanted to go or whatever, and like she could
Speaker 1: have just kept him and been like, Okay, that conversation shucked,
Speaker 1: but she was like no, like I know what I
Speaker 1: want and I've been through this before, so um, I'm
Speaker 1: not not gonna waste your time. I'm I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: you know, cut it and move on. And so just
Speaker 1: seeing like that and other things that she's done in
Speaker 1: the house, UM was was kind of inspiring because like
Speaker 1: I said, like anybody could just go along with anything
Speaker 1: and just go along with the script, and she was
Speaker 1: more of like, I'm gonna I'm gonna make this, uh
Speaker 1: this journey my own, and I'm gonna play with my roast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think talking about things that sucked, let's talk about yoself. Oh,
Speaker 1: there is so much that when we have time, so
Speaker 1: we only have seen and that really I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you this question. We've seen a piece of it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not looking good and we're not liking
Speaker 1: what we see from him. Anytime I see him on camera,
Speaker 1: it's not good. Yeah, So I can only imagine what
Speaker 1: it was like being right there because you guys and
Speaker 1: and also this is a side question. You guys didn't
Speaker 1: all live in the same house. You had roommates. Yep,
Speaker 1: he wasn't your roommate, was he? No? Shout out to Jason,
Speaker 1: my roommate, my room pregnant man. Okay, yeah, yeah, Jason,
Speaker 1: he's we we we speak highly of him here on
Speaker 1: um Okay, but what was he like off camera? Was
Speaker 1: he just as bad worse? Better? Because you're always going
Speaker 1: to come out and say he was added it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing about Joseph. Is there was there was definitely
Speaker 1: red flags with Joseph. And I'll say that, like and
Speaker 1: everybody kind of picked up on it, like just the
Speaker 1: way he talked to people, um, and just the way
Speaker 1: he kind of acted around the house. UM. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if I was just naive or I just
Speaker 1: I believe in Um. You know, there's all there's good
Speaker 1: in everybody, and it just you know, some people are
Speaker 1: maybe not comfortable in an environment, um, and maybe they
Speaker 1: just act different because you know, he had a situation
Speaker 1: with his daughter where he was missing her, and so
Speaker 1: it's like I gave him the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: and like I was like, okay, dude, Like it's okay,
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, like him talking for Riley, Uh, don't
Speaker 1: ever do that. Don't talk for the group please, like
Speaker 1: we're grown men. Um. And then just like him speaking
Speaker 1: up for the guys that were on the date, Like
Speaker 1: you weren't on the date, bro, What I was up
Speaker 1: on his Like how adamant. He wasn't against the state,
Speaker 1: He wasn't even there, He didn't even witness it. So
Speaker 1: like did anyone say, hey, chill, you weren't even there,
Speaker 1: You didn't have to take your shirt and your shorts off.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to wear the shock strap and run
Speaker 1: around with your little buns out, with your little buns out. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like, I think it would have been different if
Speaker 1: you saw like damar or um, Blake um God, damn
Speaker 1: it Blake um or or anybody just like you know,
Speaker 1: speak up and be like, no, that wasn't cool. But
Speaker 1: to have somebody that wasn't on the date, that didn't
Speaker 1: see the context of anything, and didn't even like you
Speaker 1: weren't on the date. So how can you like raise
Speaker 1: an issue something that you're not involved with it? So? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just little things like that. It's you
Speaker 1: pick up on and at some point somebody's true character
Speaker 1: is going to come out, and I think, Um, for him,
Speaker 1: you're you're kind of seeing that. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about the Dodgeball date? Because people are split on it
Speaker 1: and you were there. You played in the game one
Speaker 1: the games. He was like, oh, yeah, I love Dodgeball. Like,
Speaker 1: can I just say if there was no way, if
Speaker 1: I wasn't clare that I would I would have played
Speaker 1: in the game. Side note, I'm taking a little detour here.
Speaker 1: I was a pe teacher for a year and yes,
Speaker 1: every day, okay, every day, no, Lie, we would roll
Speaker 1: this dice and um, if it landed on dodgeball, we play.
Speaker 1: If it didn't, we still played every single day. I
Speaker 1: had those kids playing dodgeball. I was a substitute teacher.
Speaker 1: I would be terrified as my teacher. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: why I'm terrified dodgeball? Oh my gosh. No, the girls, sister,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I had them past their physical
Speaker 1: fitness test. Like this is Duncanville, so you'll you'll understand
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, Dallas. This was in Dunkinville. I
Speaker 1: was a substitue teacher. Okay. Anyways, people are people are
Speaker 1: split on how they feel about the Dodgeball date. How
Speaker 1: do you feel being in it? Yeah? Um, like I'll say,
Speaker 1: like being a competitor and already like like I'm in
Speaker 1: that mindset of Like we started playing at first, like
Speaker 1: with Claire and everything. Um, it was it was fun
Speaker 1: and it was funny games and everything like that. But
Speaker 1: once Chris Harrison said, like we're playing for extra time
Speaker 1: with Claire, Like you can see everybody's face like it's
Speaker 1: game faces, Like we're strategizing, like like Joe is like
Speaker 1: taking us through like line drills like outside, like Garen
Speaker 1: is like practicing his run up, like we're practicing strategy
Speaker 1: and matchups. We're analyzing every single person like Blake has
Speaker 1: a bum knee, like Kenny's you know, fast or whatever.
Speaker 1: So we're it gets serious and and so something's on
Speaker 1: the line. So like that's that kind of ups everything
Speaker 1: up easy. I'm referring to the nakedness. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, simply we're talking about we're talking about and
Speaker 1: so when when when Claire, When Claire says that it's
Speaker 1: stripped dodgeball, that upset a whole another level. And so
Speaker 1: it's serious, like everybody's like okay, like we're playing for real,
Speaker 1: and so everybody knew what we were playing for like
Speaker 1: it was it was okay to everybody, like we all
Speaker 1: knew like okay, like I'm not gonna lose because I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to let my balls hang right now.
Speaker 1: That's not what I want to do. And so, um,
Speaker 1: everybody knew what was going on. And so to everybody
Speaker 1: on that date, at least at least to me, everybody
Speaker 1: felt okay with what we were doing. Like we knew
Speaker 1: what we signed up for, um, and it was all
Speaker 1: in good fun like it was. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: plain on my part because I want um. But everything
Speaker 1: was fine. And then I think it took a turn
Speaker 1: when when when the guys walked home and all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. But um, yeah, like I think everybody
Speaker 1: that was on that date kind of has the same
Speaker 1: feelings of like, man, that was funny. That was a
Speaker 1: crazy date, Like it was like a lot was on
Speaker 1: the line and it didn't. And I think to kind
Speaker 1: of what rich is talking about is like it didn't
Speaker 1: seem overly sexualized, like the men were objects. Like it
Speaker 1: seems all in good fun and just in good jest.
Speaker 1: And you know obviously you want to twin. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: like no, I mean listen, I will say Kenny is
Speaker 1: a sex symbol, Like come on, he's like a block muscle,
Speaker 1: Like nothing even jiggles or shook on him. Was he
Speaker 1: on the losing team? Kenny was on the lose, Like
Speaker 1: it was like this man's Kenny wanted to lose. Kenny
Speaker 1: wanted to take a shorts off. Yeah, it wasn't really
Speaker 1: a loss. That's a great question. Can he beat the system?
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose because like I'm gonna show what I
Speaker 1: got like goodness? Yeah? Who who loved camera time on
Speaker 1: this show? Who wanted tools? Always like I'll do a
Speaker 1: man chat, I'll do an I don't know, I can
Speaker 1: say easy, I do you have to ask you this though?
Speaker 1: Who had the best apps? Um, other than doing this selfish?
Speaker 1: Very selfish? Yes, other than Kenny. Uh oh that's a
Speaker 1: great question. I would say Brandon. Maybe Brandon, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. It was on the date. Oh no, but
Speaker 1: nobody nobody's I mean, it's Kenny. Come on, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's kendall. Seriously, Yeah, it's it's Kenny. Come on. What
Speaker 1: you seem to be close to so many of the guys.
Speaker 1: Is the group chat popping? Um? Yes, like it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because it's anytime anything happens, um like
Speaker 1: or anytime anybody like remembers like one thing, like the
Speaker 1: group chat like will go off and I have to
Speaker 1: turn my phone on siglment. But yeah, you know y'all
Speaker 1: are y'all are chattier than women? Yeah, I know how
Speaker 1: it goes. That's one thousand percent real. Oh, to be
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall with all of you men easy.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, we have to ask no.
Speaker 1: Usually we asked like the Rose and Thorn. So what
Speaker 1: is your best and worst moment from this episode for you? Um?
Speaker 1: Best and worst? Um? I'd say the best moment would
Speaker 1: be just that like time that I had with Claire, Um,
Speaker 1: just because it was more like I felt that we
Speaker 1: let our our guards down and like all our walls
Speaker 1: came down and we were just talking as humans. Our
Speaker 1: first conversation. It was Yeah, it was loose and it
Speaker 1: was cool and everything like that. But um, obviously there's
Speaker 1: just so much tension and so much stuff going on
Speaker 1: that night that I thought that, Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We just had like pretty good moments on the Dodgeball
Speaker 1: Day U worst woman. I don't know. It's just seeing
Speaker 1: Claire upset, like and that's that's one thing that always
Speaker 1: hits home for me because it's like seeing somebody that
Speaker 1: upset and that hurt by something and not being able
Speaker 1: to do anything about it is just so I don't know,
Speaker 1: like that that kills me. So, UM, yeah that's really sweet,
Speaker 1: But I really do, I really do have one more,
Speaker 1: one more question. What was it like for you being
Speaker 1: a black man on Claire season or and just a
Speaker 1: part of the franchise. Yeah, so it like I'll say this,
Speaker 1: this season, Um, this season has just been very different.
Speaker 1: And like I said, like I've watched the show before
Speaker 1: and so it's been like eye opening, um to be
Speaker 1: able to be a part of it, because like I've
Speaker 1: watched it and I've always been like, Okay, that's cool
Speaker 1: for them, but they don't look like me. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna that this like speak to me, and
Speaker 1: like I'm never going to have that chance or I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I'm not gonna be in that world
Speaker 1: or be able to love like that or whatever that is.
Speaker 1: And so m Rachel, I'll commend you on this too.
Speaker 1: Like I I've known you before from you know, being
Speaker 1: the first to do it and like all the all
Speaker 1: the stuff that you've accomplished and done and like that
Speaker 1: you're doing now, that's awesome to see, um, people of
Speaker 1: color like doing great things and like it being highlighted,
Speaker 1: you know, and like seeing love highlighted in different colors,
Speaker 1: you know, And so um, for me, I thought it
Speaker 1: was it was just awesome just to be a part
Speaker 1: of it and to live it and um, that may
Speaker 1: be like next year. Years down the road, people are
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Okay, well Easy looked like me an
Speaker 1: easy access whatever. So I feel like I can do
Speaker 1: this or do that, so well said easy. It's everything.
Speaker 1: This interview was well we thought it would be, and more.
Speaker 1: You do not disappoint. You have to come back. We'll
Speaker 1: have to. Yeah, we'll have to have you back please.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're in California. M yeah you're oh Becca.
Speaker 1: You know, I like to keep my Bachelor Nation family small,
Speaker 1: but I'm so welcoming Easy in. He was. He was fantastic. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was so good. He's won since I mean since
Speaker 1: night one. I feel like he was a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: He's so great to watch and so I'm so happy
Speaker 1: we had him today. Um, we're definitely gonna have to
Speaker 1: plan a time when we can get together with him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just down the road. Absolutely, we definitely will
Speaker 1: and and I feel like we'll have more great conversations
Speaker 1: or controversial We'll get more tea, that's for sure. Things
Speaker 1: that we can't see it on the podcast that will get.
Speaker 1: But but I do hope to have him on later
Speaker 1: on just because he's fun to talk to. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope we see more of him, but that is
Speaker 1: a rap us today, there's obviously more fun to be had.
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