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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast cratched their remote control colors

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Speaker 1: during practice. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hanss and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler and Greg Rosa Doll. What up? Boys? Hey? How

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Speaker 1: are you gonna miss this voice? How are you? We

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Speaker 1: have to ask? How your tones? This is a big

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Speaker 1: day in Around the League podcast history. That's right, preseason

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Speaker 1: week ones over. No, it's Dans Eve of having a baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you call that? This is baby Eve, We'll

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Speaker 1: call it. Just go with it, boy, Hans, this will

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Speaker 1: soon be born. I will be out of the office

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Speaker 1: for a little bit. This will be my last podcast

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Speaker 1: for for a little while. I will return and I

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Speaker 1: will leave it in your capable hands. I feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: It's and I talked to Greg about this, like Greg

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Speaker 1: will be stepping in running the hardcaps of the excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the hard not recaps on Tuesday Hardcaps. That'd be good.

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Speaker 1: And there's this there's a level of you know, responsibility

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Speaker 1: that that falls onto Greg even though he is the boss.

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Speaker 1: Now he's gonna do some hosting duties on the on

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Speaker 1: the old podcast I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: like the Ryan Mallett to your Tom Brady so that

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Speaker 1: everyone just appreciates the legend of Dan hands this while

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Speaker 1: he's gone. But let's not change the subject here. How

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Speaker 1: are you? How are you feeling? I'm good. I have

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Speaker 1: some anxiety. David Eely one of our our great editors downstairs,

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Speaker 1: really our greatest editor. He left me a bottle of

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Speaker 1: champagne on my desk, uh says from really scrawled like

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Speaker 1: he's in sixth grade, which he might be. Note do

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Speaker 1: not give him to baby editor. Yeah and uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on in my life. But you know,

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Speaker 1: do you have any tips, any advice I had? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's not a tip because you'll just have to learn

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Speaker 1: on your own about being a dad. But I have

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Speaker 1: a name suggestion. Oh go ahead, it's a little off

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Speaker 1: the cuff. Just before you go on, know that I

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Speaker 1: absolutely will not take your suggestion. That's fine. I thought

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Speaker 1: long and hard about this, but I am thinking Spooney six.

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Speaker 1: Spooney six hands is six is the middle name, like

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Speaker 1: from Blossoms. It would be like a spooney upper case

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Speaker 1: The first thing that came to mind a second ago

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Speaker 1: Spoony six hands is throw a fire. I know she's

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Speaker 1: you know, she can think for herself. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you some advice that you know, the birth itself

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Speaker 1: horror show. Um, you know you're worried about the white.

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Speaker 1: The best part of the whole thing is when you

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Speaker 1: get to go home the first day after the hospital.

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Speaker 1: That's as damnit, I would say, a little slice of heaven.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's good to know I'm ready for I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready and not ready at the same time. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, we've got to do one more great

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Speaker 1: pod together before it is hands out. I know if

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Speaker 1: she didn't ask me for any advice on child rearing,

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Speaker 1: he didn't ask us either. We just I would love

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Speaker 1: to know your advice. Do you not let your baby

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Speaker 1: around people like me? Because I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: do with the baby. I might shake it or something.

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Speaker 1: Also noted that I will definitely tell my wife, just

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Speaker 1: I know how to handle it. Oddly, that was the

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Speaker 1: best advice I've gotten so far. Keep the baby away

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Speaker 1: from West. That's good. All right, big show today, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking for we would really save her this

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Speaker 1: have Uh, you know, the preseason Week one is over

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through every game. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: spin it around and go around the old horseshoe and

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Speaker 1: talk about winners and losers from week one of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: because God knows there were many uh Sessler. By the way,

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Speaker 1: a lot of feedback about your descriptions of the Dallas

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Speaker 1: For our website, Cowboys have enough issues right now at

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Speaker 1: Cowboys game that Mark covered on Thursday night. Uh, Mark's

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Speaker 1: go and listen to the end of the last podcast too.

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Speaker 1: I have a solution for you. You don't need to

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Speaker 1: of your brilliant essay on the Cowboys, we have it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have West sit down with me technically and

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Speaker 1: So that's good, good job, guys. We're rolling now, TD

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Speaker 1: behind the Glass? How are you body? What's going on

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Speaker 1: in fellas? And just just a note that, yes, Cessler,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of a lot of tweets and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want the whole thing because we had to fade

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Speaker 1: out the podcast. You guys, we went out of space.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have enough. So if you ever put out that

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Speaker 1: Google doc, man, please shoot it out. Is it true?

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Speaker 1: Is this an example? T D when you sit with

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Speaker 1: of when the job maybe isn't so fun. What is this?

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Speaker 1: two hours. That's my story, and I'm thinking we're recording

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Speaker 1: do any news today. So many games to get to,

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Speaker 1: but we wouldn't want to deny you your big moment

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Speaker 1: that you have every show with us TD. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's not do some news. Yeah, God, I'm not God. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was that Spoony six? Was Manning and Eli Manning hip

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Speaker 1: hop video? They shut it down? Guys, they really did.

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Speaker 1: You should Uh? I thought that was like mob deeper.

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Speaker 1: And I will say that it is a huge, a huge,

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Speaker 1: And you could watch this video. It's a direct TV video,

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Speaker 1: a music video. Uh, you can watch it on NFL

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Speaker 1: on it that much better than last year's video, which

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Speaker 1: was Football on Your Phone, where Eli Manning disrespected the

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Speaker 1: legacy of Alexander Graham Bell famously. So check out the

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Speaker 1: new video. I don't imagine it's still being tedious. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I would, I would think. This

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Speaker 1: are the first funny thing Peyton mannings Ever put on

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Speaker 1: video to comic geniuses on the other side of the table. Today,

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Speaker 1: let's get into the why don't we do? Let's do

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Speaker 1: some winners and losers and why don't we Where do

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Speaker 1: we want to start? Fellows? Who wants to get things going? We? Uh,

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Speaker 1: we have so many winners and losers to get to.

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Speaker 1: about a little Blake Bortles. We've heard a lot about

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Speaker 1: the other rookie quarterbacks all camp Lake Bortles through more

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Speaker 1: impressive throws, and granted we're working off a limited skill set,

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Speaker 1: very accurate, he had. He had a great performance, which

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Speaker 1: came away watching I said, if he does that again

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Speaker 1: want to hear Greg's loser? Now? What do you guys

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Speaker 1: that's what the preseason is about. I'm not gonna get

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Speaker 1: of know where you get Jordan Cameron and they have

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Speaker 1: got that in Kyle Rudolph, and you've got potentially Patterson.

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Speaker 1: It's not seeing as Josh Gordon, but he's gonna maybe

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Speaker 1: eat and have a huge amount of yardage and catches.

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Speaker 1: There's that pass attack was dead on arrival a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago. It's more interesting now if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about their offense, why don't we go to your second winner? Well,

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Speaker 1: I liked and I'm not sure you know this was

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Speaker 1: that was that was well done. I like Jerick McKinnon.

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Speaker 1: You know they're they're running back. Adrian Peterson obviously didn't

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Speaker 1: see a second of action in this and you know,

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Speaker 1: with McKinnon, maybe we don't see much of him for

437
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Speaker 1: a big chunk of the early portion of the year.

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Speaker 1: But I think that they should put him out there

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Speaker 1: as a guy in situations because he showed great vision,

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Speaker 1: he had some nice cuts. He's faster than I thought

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Speaker 1: he would be. You know, in Adrian Peterson talked this

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Speaker 1: guy up all off. He's not thought he's just being

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Speaker 1: nice to his young teammate, building some confidence. But he

444
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Speaker 1: looked good to me, and I want to see more

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Speaker 1: of him. It's only it's a small sample size one game,

446
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Speaker 1: but it was promising a lot of good running backs,

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Speaker 1: rookie running backs. She could be a third down back

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Speaker 1: for them. Why not. I'll also remember in that game,

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Speaker 1: Matt Asiata, one of our favorite players from a year ago,

450
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Speaker 1: absolutely undressed Charles Woodson on something. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: had that sort of moves on him where he shook

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Speaker 1: Charles Woodson. Why didn't you think he had those kind

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Speaker 1: of moves? I don't. I took I took more about

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Speaker 1: Woodson out of that play than azziata I did too.

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Speaker 1: Asiada twenty carries forty yards in his one start. That's why. Actually,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, it was thirty. Okay, with the greatest

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Speaker 1: stat line position. That's a Mcgahey, who's up my turn?

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Speaker 1: Go for it? Okay? Have we brought up Bryan Tannehill?

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Speaker 1: Can talk about your boy Bill Laser Mark Sessler, offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. He did something very smart.

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Speaker 1: I thought. He set up a nice game plan. Their

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Speaker 1: first drive against the Falcons on Friday night. They went

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Speaker 1: right down the field at ten place, seventy three yard drive,

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Speaker 1: easy touchdown past from Tannehill to Brandon Gibson and then

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Speaker 1: seizing on this good moment, Laser or you know, and

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Speaker 1: the head coach obviously piled been working together, pulled Tannehill

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Speaker 1: out of the game six or six touchdown drive. Good

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Speaker 1: spirit carries through the week for one day at least.

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Speaker 1: Bill Laser's the greatest offensive mine in the history of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And Cessler speaking at Chills, I was sitting

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Speaker 1: across the Mark. You should have seen him hopping in

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Speaker 1: his seat. He was so excited about it. That is

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Speaker 1: that is not accurate. Uh, but I did think they

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Speaker 1: did a nice job, and he promised a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna be a faster offense. From what

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Speaker 1: little we saw they were, they were faster and Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: you know, he looked to be in control, which which

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Speaker 1: was comforting because when I when we actually talked to

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Speaker 1: Laser a couple of months ago, he said that Tannehill

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Speaker 1: was his mind was swimming with all the new stuff

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Speaker 1: they were doing. So that a few steps were made

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Speaker 1: there a little peek behind the curtain for the listeners.

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Speaker 1: Bill Laser was supposed to be on the Making the

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Speaker 1: Leap list as one of Mark Sessler's guys, but he

485
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Speaker 1: was outvoted at the last minute. Someone else was shoehorned in.

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Speaker 1: But you are a huge, I don't know, mistake his

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Speaker 1: entire professional career on Bill Laser's success. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: I even have a professional career like this is Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing my feeling all along is why I I

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Speaker 1: get bothered with the group of coordinators that are like

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Speaker 1: the Mike Sherman's, that are so billy right to the

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Speaker 1: old school things they grew up and that they're unable

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Speaker 1: to change, and Laser didn't just come out of nowhere

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Speaker 1: and Lazer tag. He worked for Gibbs, he worked for

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Speaker 1: Home Grin, He worked for a bunch of guys, and

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Speaker 1: he decided that's all right with Kelly's like, this is

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Speaker 1: what I want to take with me now that I

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Speaker 1: have this chance. That spoke to me. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know why twenty teams aren't using elements of Phillies offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see. I we talked about this Friday night. If

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense takes off, which I still I'm not convinced,

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Speaker 1: but if it happens, a lot of teams are going

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Speaker 1: to start doing this. It will become the new copycat offense.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, all right. This is the best part, though,

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Speaker 1: Oh did you go with I need to because you

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Speaker 1: were so good transitioning that I thought you were the host.

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Speaker 1: He didn't happen. That happens to the host sometimes, Chris,

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Speaker 1: what does let's hear your winner. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I am so fascinated by the Steelers is because

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Speaker 1: they were a team on the brink. They were either

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Speaker 1: going to go really old and really slow and stay

512
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Speaker 1: that way and then have to completely rebuild, or with

513
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Speaker 1: one draft class and some remnants of last year's draft class,

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Speaker 1: turn their team around and become young and speedy. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they've done. Three Archer that forty

516
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Speaker 1: six yards screen pass, I mean that was just blinding speed.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna use him on returns, maybe three or four

518
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Speaker 1: touches a game on offense is a gadget player. And

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Speaker 1: then Ryan Shazire and Steph onto It on defense, and

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Jones had a really impressive sack. These are three

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Speaker 1: guys who are probably gonna enter the starting lineup together,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the Steelers defense has young legs.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be one of the most fun

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Speaker 1: teams to watch this year. Has has Roethlisberger and his

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Speaker 1: Steeler's crew ever had a guy like Archer. Willie Parker

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Speaker 1: was really fast, but he wasn't that involved in the

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Speaker 1: pass and get that kind of running back unless you

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Speaker 1: want to go to the Weldy more. I guess Chris

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Speaker 1: Rainy doesn't count. Nos Ranny was supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: original Dree Archer in Todd Haley's Dreams. They had Antoine

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Speaker 1: Randall l for gadget player losers. It's fun to talk

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Speaker 1: about losers, people that fail, And I don't know what

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Speaker 1: makes that fun to talk about, but it is. We

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Speaker 1: don't root for this, but we're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Who are the losers from week one of the preseason

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Speaker 1: the boss get us go. Let's start with Josh McCown

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Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers offensive line. It's only the preseason, but

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Speaker 1: it was the worst possible effort you could have out

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Speaker 1: of an offensive line. He was under pressure every single

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Speaker 1: play against Jacksonville. If I was voting for a preseason

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Speaker 1: m v P on defense right now, it's a little early,

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Speaker 1: little bit. Send Derrick Marks from Jacksonville looked like the

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Speaker 1: best defensive tackle in the NFL right for four They

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Speaker 1: left the count in there for four series just because

545
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Speaker 1: they wanted, you know, him, to get something going, and

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Speaker 1: it just kept getting worse, and it just got me

547
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Speaker 1: thinking account has made a career out of improvising. He's

548
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Speaker 1: the poor man's Brett Farve. He's definitely not a guy,

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Speaker 1: you know what, playing behind a terrible offensive line. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna work for him, you know

551
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Last year in Chicago, he had pretty

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Speaker 1: good protection answer to that, he's your boy. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize when I wrote the Making Elite piece that Carl

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Speaker 1: Nix would be out of the picture completely, that uh

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Speaker 1: Jama Meredith would be benched after one preseason game. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they can convince the part with Alex Boone. You can't

557
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Speaker 1: think they've been rumored to be one of the teams

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Speaker 1: involved are logical fit. I think if we if we

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Speaker 1: have them making the leave candidate, where the world around

560
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: the melts to the point where we can't really get

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Speaker 1: an accurate that you can't get a real picture of

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Speaker 1: the cown in this offense with what's going on with

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Speaker 1: their offensive line. You know, Jeff Tedford all offseason wouldn't

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Speaker 1: tell reporters anything about his offense, and it was everyone

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Speaker 1: and down in typical and shrouded in mystery. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what's what we're gonna get, And in fact his

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Speaker 1: players weren't allowed to speak about anything either. What we

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Speaker 1: learned was incredibly disturbing. It's that you actually don't have

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Speaker 1: an offensive line. That's not the secret. You want to

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Speaker 1: wait to spring on people at this point in the office,

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Speaker 1: and we don't want to get too carried to with

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Speaker 1: the preseason. It almost the preseason results sometimes can just

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Speaker 1: remind us of a story we we just hadn't thought

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Speaker 1: much about, because if you look at their Ovens Vine,

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Speaker 1: it is terrible on paper too. It's not just terrible

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Speaker 1: in those couple of series a year ago. At this time,

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Speaker 1: they had three of the highest paid players at their

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Speaker 1: position in the offensive line in the NFL, Davin Joseph Donald,

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Speaker 1: Penn Carl Knicks. None of them are on the team anymore.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times with offensive lines, a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams go into training camp or into the preseason with

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Speaker 1: two or three question marks. But you know, as time passes,

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Speaker 1: you find somebody that you could play, and somebody steps up,

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Speaker 1: that whole next man up. But sometimes nobody steps up,

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Speaker 1: and then it's a disaster show. And I feel bad,

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Speaker 1: not just from account, but if he if he struggles

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Speaker 1: and they're one and four because the line is terrible,

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Speaker 1: then Mike Glennon goes in and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: he's got the deck stacked against him for a second

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Speaker 1: straight year. That's how important offensive line is, and they

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Speaker 1: left themselves highly vulnerable. Smith is like I refuse to

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Speaker 1: take ownership or commanded team that has a competent offensive line.

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Speaker 1: He's like, if you look at my resume, that never

594
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Speaker 1: happened in not comfortable with that. Speaking of highly vulnerable

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Speaker 1: offensive line, you're doing it again. My biggest losers offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They had already lost Donald Thomas for the season, started

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Speaker 1: left guard, starting center Colled Holmes goes down with it

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Speaker 1: looks like a major ankle sprain. Could be out two

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Speaker 1: to three weeks. Uh. Rookie Ulric John who was going

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Speaker 1: to be quality depth broke his leg. He's done. Mark

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Speaker 1: has that jersey to he just bought it. Very annoying

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Speaker 1: name because anyone would think, I think it's John Ulric

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Speaker 1: trying to write a story. I feel you there. That's

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Speaker 1: that's horrible anyway. So Andrew Luck hit more than any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL in two straight seasons. He has

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Speaker 1: no idea what he's like to have past protection and

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna know what it's like again this year.

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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson no holes to run through as a slow

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Speaker 1: running back. It's a problem. And to me, this is

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Speaker 1: what separates the Colts. Like to think that they're one

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Speaker 1: of the six best teams, but they're not. They're way

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Speaker 1: behind the Patriots and Broncos for reasons like the offensive

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Speaker 1: line and a defense that wasn't fixed. They have no

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Speaker 1: one but Robert Mathis who can rush the passer. They

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Speaker 1: have major gaping holes on this team, and that's why

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Speaker 1: they're still gonna win the FC South. But they're not

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Speaker 1: a real the contender. Their team like built from the outside.

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Speaker 1: In versus, let's get a strong li to just rest

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Speaker 1: on Andrew luck Shoulders dangerous ten and six, maybe sneak

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Speaker 1: out of the first round and then get wiped out

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Speaker 1: by a true contender type situation. Last year, Mark a loser,

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Speaker 1: a big old loser. Mine is an animal. Oh and

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Speaker 1: that animal is a zebra. I am exceedingly annoyed with

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Speaker 1: the officials in the referees. I understand that there's this

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Speaker 1: league imposed thing where we've got to clamp down on

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Speaker 1: defensive holding, and we got to teach the cornerbacks how

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Speaker 1: to play a new type of defense after you spent

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Speaker 1: your all twenties and thirties playing defense a different way. Now, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: Dan did an article here and put the stats together

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Speaker 1: from ESPN. Basically, there were twenty seven illegal contact penalties

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Speaker 1: in seventeen preseason games there were thirty seven last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you project that out. That is a killer for view.

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Speaker 1: It's seven and twelve thousand penalties. I added it up

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Speaker 1: that John Clayton and they had fifty three defensive holding

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Speaker 1: calls this weekend. There were only a hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: one all last year. It's grim. But first of all,

637
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: these referees, Mark, because you're putting it on these poor fellas.

638
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're not acting, you know, out of their

639
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: own volition. This is coming down from Park Avenue. The

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: shadowy league figures say hey, we wanna, you know, clamp

641
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: down on this this situation. You do our bidding and

642
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: about They say, excuse me, mr person, coming down from

643
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: your league office, We're going to argue you on this

644
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: because it slows the game down and it's taking away

645
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: from the view or a product that they if from.

646
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: Allow me to temper your concern on this issue. This

647
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: has not Major League Baseball we're dealing with. We're dealing

648
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: with an entity that understand the entertainment. Major League Baseball

649
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: will do anything to make the game slower. They encourage that,

650
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: oh we can we can have replay to look and

651
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: see if a second baseman left the bag too early

652
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: on a double play. NFL doesn't do that stuff. They

653
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: that time of a week where Les just takes pot

654
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: shots in baseball. Look, I love baseball. The minor leagues

655
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: run a great sport. Now wait, so wait, what is

656
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: your point? The NFL and this just setting the tone

657
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: for the season. But once they're not gonna sacrifice entertainment.

658
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Is this such a brilliant idea by the NFL to

659
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: crackdown on something that they have no business cracking down.

660
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: They're putting it into cornerback's head for the season and

661
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: then they're gonna allow some of that to go. But

662
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: they want them to change. They're trying to change the

663
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: behavior in the previous and that makes sense. There was

664
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: a drive at the end of the Browns Lions game

665
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: where Kellen Moore, who's getting you know, touted, is this

666
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: fantastic third string quarterback. They suddenly find themselves on Cleveland's well,

667
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: he's like the fourth quarterback in Pro Football Focus law,

668
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: It's like, we don't bring up half of the preseason.

669
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: After three series, you know, they find themselves on Cleveland's

670
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. Have you not even gained a yard?

671
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Because it was like three or four straight defensive holding.

672
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's get Pete up back on the line from Pro

673
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Football Focus to talk to Mark about this. Not any

674
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: shots at Pete about this. No, Pete and I are

675
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: on Good By Pete, by the way, study in West West.

676
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: It was while Mark is the intrepid reporter, West is

677
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: like the reporter that the attack dog, that inquisitor. Yeah,

678
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: you're the great inquisitor. And he's like the New York

679
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: Post reporter at the Super Bowl that doesn't care if

680
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the coach there, you know, likes him or not, and

681
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: just starts going at him. But Pete and I like

682
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: each other. I can tell that. I can tell you.

683
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: You're like the reporter where someone's like, hey, what's your

684
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: problem then, and you're like, I'll do anything for a story, anything,

685
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: except I won't. Yeah, I wish you did. Um, you

686
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: seem like you really want to. I've been on the

687
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: official things, by the way. I just it's just funny

688
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: to me how Sesla goes on these rants. You know,

689
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: he just picks the topic and his ghost for it.

690
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, this guy over the weekend,

691
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: because what it's what to Wester this point is what

692
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: leagues do the NBA doesn't as well. Where in preseason

693
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: they start off with this new rule that they're going

694
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: to implement, and like, as the season goes along, no

695
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: one cares. You know, they pulled back TD. Are there

696
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: speaking of mammals in Nigeria? Yeah? Are there a zebras? No,

697
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: that's a huge misconception. I've never seen a zebra before

698
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: my life. I've never seen Southern South. Awkward. I just

699
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: did transition. I just did a cursory search, and I

700
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: see the zebras of northern Nigeria. I've never well, I

701
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: lived in the west of Nigeria. I did ride a

702
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: lot of horses as a kid, though. No zebras. Yeah,

703
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: I can not a horse. No whatever. That was my thing.

704
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: That was like my superhero, really interesting. I got a loser,

705
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: my beloved New York Jets. The secondary we got major

706
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: problems again, we have major issues. We'll start with the

707
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: preseason game, which was an issue. D Milner looked great

708
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: and that was great. He knocked away a pass intended

709
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: for Keem Nicks. He appeared to be up to the

710
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: task of being the jets number one corner from what

711
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: we saw on the other side of the field. To

712
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: meet you. Patterson struggled, got lit up a couple of times,

713
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: fell down, just did not look good. So you're thinking yourself, Oh,

714
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: they still have an issue at second cornerback. But d

715
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: we're on the right track. Fast forward a couple of days.

716
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: D Millner high ankle spraying. It looks like so swollen

717
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: a Monday that they couldn't even do an X ray

718
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: or an m r I. So his availability availability for

719
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: week one is in doubt. So you lose your number

720
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: one cornerback, your number two cornerback who I said to

721
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: meet your Patterson has three separate injuries at once, apparently

722
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: as well as being bad at at coverage, so he's

723
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: out of the picture. Dexter McDougal their third round pick cornerback.

724
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: I believe the same day de Milner went down blew

725
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: out his knee. So bye bye. Nice know anybody see

726
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: you next year? Uh lead you in a situation where

727
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: they came to practice on Monday. One cornerback that a

728
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: journeyman safety, or not a journeyman but a safety. Antonio

729
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Allen played cornerback Ellis Lankster get excited people. The other cornerback.

730
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: We heard a report from the Daily news that the

731
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Jets reached out to a Sante Samuel who doesn't have

732
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: a job, but that's probably not happening. I love that report,

733
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: by the way, because it was so Exack. We reached

734
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: out to him, but we we won't be signing him

735
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: anytime soon. And speaking of Zack West again on fire

736
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: right now, queuing me up. Uh, they spoke to Zack.

737
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: He came out from the glacier. He climbed off the

738
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: glacier to speak and stated that he has no regrets

739
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: about how he handled the off season in terms of

740
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: courting free agent secondary members. And now the Jets have

741
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: a major issue in their back end and it was

742
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: already an issue, and now with these injuries, it's code

743
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: red loser. Wow, they should be fine with their leading

744
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: outside you know, pass rusher Calvin Pace thirty four years old. Hey,

745
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: let's let's stick to the secondary right now? Can I

746
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: change my vote on the team most likely to threaten

747
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots? And uh, maybe they can sign Ed Reid's

748
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: play cornerback. It's the worst. It's the worst cornerback group

749
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Brex Ryan's ever had. That's not even not even debatable.

750
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: And you just wonder he's always constructed his defenses in

751
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: a certain sort of way, and Bill Belichick has found

752
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: this out the last five years. You can't be as

753
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: creative when your players aren't as good on defense. You can't,

754
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, start throwing out all those magical, a little formations.

755
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: Rex tried to downplay this on Monday, saying it's about

756
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: the defense, not about the certain way I coach cornerbacks.

757
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: But he is. He is a coordinator who relies almost

758
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: implicitly on cornerbacks who played press man and can hold

759
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: their own. Uh Reeva's not signing resigned with the Jets

760
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't bother me. There was almost there was almost too

761
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: much in the relationship at that point. It's like when

762
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: a boyfriend girlfriend break up. Sometimes they get together but

763
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: it never works out. And he was too much is done.

764
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: The guy that said he wanted to be on broad

765
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: go to Broadway plays, but then ended up signing, Yeah,

766
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I want to live in a city full of culture

767
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: and theatrics. Yeah I have fun down there, buddy, theater vulture.

768
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: What do you call those people? Culture? Culture vulture? And

769
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: then uh kee to leave. I wasn't gonna be crazy

770
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: about But when they didn't get m Dominique Rogers Grimardi,

771
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: and he went to the Giants on top of I

772
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: knew that was bad and now they are in a

773
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: bad spot. Bad job glacier. If there's any silver lining,

774
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: if they can find anyone to play to get that

775
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: second cornerback spot a milliner. I I rewatched the Jets

776
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: game again one game, but he finished last year strong.

777
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: He did look good and I wear a high ankle spraining.

778
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: You know it's a bad injury. You don't know if

779
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: you could be those things where next summer you're seeing

780
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: the reports. Oh, I never was a percent healthy the

781
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: whole year. I pray that's not the case. But if

782
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: that is the case, they're in a tough spot. You

783
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: can still backpedal better than Jadeveon clowning. He clinches that

784
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: d Snyder will be the number one ranked d for

785
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: at East another year. Twisted Sister Mountain mentioned good job.

786
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: It climbs back into his glacier, consults actuary of tables

787
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: and Ambicus. That's his pang one on the head. All right,

788
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: we have another round of losers. Well, I'll pick a loser.

789
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: Jumping off of Mark's zebra rant. It's rules related. This

790
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: extra point thing, which I didn't like last week. I

791
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: like it even less after watching it play out. They're

792
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: kicking the ball from thirty three yards out for extra

793
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: points for a couple of weeks in the preseason. Shocker,

794
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: almost all of them were made because that's a very

795
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: it's way too easy. Two of us three were missed

796
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: at the end. That's which is better than But why

797
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: why not just have a play where something different happens.

798
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Why not make it further back or just make them

799
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: go for two or something. It just seems like a

800
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: half measure exactly West Another loser Raiders fans. Still, you're

801
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: not all losers, guys, I mean some of you are

802
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: big time losers. Are love Raiders fans passionate yeah, um.

803
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Unfortunately they've been led to believe, these passionate fans, by

804
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players, that this is a

805
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: playoff team. It's nowhere near a playoff team. It might

806
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: be the worst team. You have to have a quarterback.

807
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: They did not have a quarterback. Shop didn't look good.

808
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean he he couldn't see too much. But this

809
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: is a guy without with an arm. He doesn't trust,

810
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: and to me, he still looks like a guy without

811
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: with an army doesn't trust. Derek Carr didn't look like

812
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: he was ready. Offensive line, blew too many blocks, receivers

813
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: dropped a lot of passes. I just think the Raiders

814
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: are way way far away from what they've been selling

815
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: their fans. Team with no identities, the way I watched

816
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders in that game smells like five and eleven again.

817
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden only one run in the game, but it

818
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: was an explosive run. Yeah, there there's something good. J

819
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: looked pretty good, I thought in the limited work he

820
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: looked a little spry. Does he look taller in the

821
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Raiders uniform? The thing I've heard some people killing shop

822
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: and they asked that Allen whether he's going to change

823
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: his plan after that game, and anyone killing shop didn't

824
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: watch the game. He had feign completions. Really two of

825
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: them of the four were drops, and one of the

826
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: other two was a play where it sure looked like

827
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: a rookie didn't break off a route when people were blitzing.

828
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: So he basically had one bad throw. Sideline throw. You're

829
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: supposed to throw it through your receiver, not have it

830
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: dying on the way. That wasn't a good throw. That

831
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: was the one other one. Dennis Allen, you can't trust

832
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: him because he's delusional when it comes to his quarterbacks.

833
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: He has no idea that Matt Shop is a broken quarterback,

834
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and he keeps touting him as as a great quarter

835
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: By the way, his first pass was nearly picked off.

836
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: It was like a pick six for the ages for

837
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: Captain lul and he didn't hold onto the pass. That yeah,

838
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the one that that was like, that

839
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: was like the bad pass. But Michael Rivera killed two

840
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: drives on with third down drops and like all right,

841
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: he's in the drive. He's in the game for three drives.

842
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Two of them ended not on the thank you you know,

843
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Shop on the bench? What is that? That's your up

844
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: on the bench. By week three, him starting right there,

845
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: he wants the music that was Sessler's que He's like,

846
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: this is my thing. I don't think that's even anyone

847
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: in Northern California can come up at that prediction. My loser,

848
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: my number my number two loser. And it it pains

849
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: me to do this. And I know you'll think that

850
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but I'm not. I I root for this

851
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: guy on some level, but come on Trent Richardson all right,

852
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: and I thought we actually did a nice job of

853
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: getting this guy. You know, the reason I went back

854
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: and the reason I saw Millner was to watch Trent

855
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Richardson because I saw stuff bubble up about him. Blah

856
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: blah blah, still the same guy. A nice run out

857
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: of the gate, and then it's a bunch of I

858
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: think Wesleyan put the phrase, this guy can't find his

859
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: way out of an elevator. That's what I'm seeing. I

860
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: understand they're having their line issues against arguably a top

861
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: three defensive line in the NFL. I'm not sure it matters,

862
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: and I hope to be proven wrong. I'm not saying

863
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: this is true, but it seems to me it doesn't

864
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: matter who he's facing or what sort of line and

865
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: he has in front of him. This guy is not

866
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: the player we saw at Alabama. You're a brave man

867
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: if you predict he ever becomes like a yard rusher

868
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: at this point. So I would have liked I would

869
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: have liked to seen him come in about fifteen pounds

870
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: lighter and maybe look like mark Ingram with some more birst.

871
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: But to me, he looks like the same guys last year.

872
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: I have I have one final loser myself, and it

873
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: is I have a settler about this. And I don't

874
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: root for these things. But Bill O'Brien one and done,

875
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: I just feel it. I just feel it in my bones. Well,

876
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: they didn't set I mean, they set him up with

877
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatricks, and they set him up with a built

878
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: to lose situation and Fitzpatrick GE's similar. It's on some

879
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: level there's some parallels to the Jet secondary situation where

880
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: that it was already a loose base and then if

881
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: things go wrong and and in this case Ryan Fitzpatrick,

882
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: and then they turned to case Keenum and he doesn't

883
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: do it. And then Tom Savage if he's something that's

884
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: a real entity. Those guys are all guys you're not

885
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: going to count on to make plays. I just you know,

886
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: four and twelve. They don't like what's going on. The

887
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: owner McNair doesn't seem like the most patient man. You

888
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: thought this was gonna be an a f C contender

889
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: this year. He gone, you are known in Houston as

890
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: a Texans hater. So this is kind of as I

891
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: went on a tech Houston radio show and predicted eight

892
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: and eight and they literally laughed, laughed at me. I

893
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: wrote it. They called me up to get me on

894
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: the show to make fun of me about it, and

895
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: then said we'll have you back on after the season

896
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: it ends, and we'll talk about this. And I was like,

897
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: all right, buddy. They went to and fourteen. Never heard

898
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: back one lesson for me. Job guys, good job by you.

899
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: When everyone says, like all the Texans they have to

900
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: take Jenavian Clowney, they just have to. There's nothing else

901
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: you can do. They don't have a quarterback. But how

902
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: can you pass on Clowney? You know what, if I

903
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: see this any picked bad idea. I'm not saying it's

904
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: a bad pick at all. He's totally worthy of the

905
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: top pick potentially, But if the result is I'm a

906
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: first year head coach that has no quarterback, you're not

907
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: going to be any of the quarter quarterbacks aren't good either.

908
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: It's even worse well because you're sunk with them. That's fine.

909
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: But then we hear the owners saying I wasn't up

910
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: for taking Johnny Manziel because it would have been too

911
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: much fanfare. That's an owner to me that wants to

912
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: have Ryan Fitzpatrick that's the quarterback you get have a

913
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: nice time with four and twelve. We've heard a lot

914
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: of reports were literally angry. It annoys me that the

915
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Texans and this is the stuff when it it's just

916
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: like shop when you have to sit there with three

917
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: or four months of a coach in a front office

918
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: telling you that these broken down quarterbacks that we've seen,

919
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: what are they gonna say? I totally disagree though, that

920
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: they should have just taken a quarterback because they need

921
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Then then that kills the entire for three

922
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: years instead of waiting a year. There's the expectations this

923
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: year really good high. They could have gotten a better,

924
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: better veteran than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Very low with Fitzpatrick's. One

925
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: thing we've heard out of Houston practices is that someone wrote,

926
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I think with Stephanie Strally, that the best day of

927
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's practices were was worse than the worst day

928
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: of any Gary Kubiak offensive practice that they ever saw. Now,

929
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, but it gets you thinking.

930
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: If you just think about offensive personnel and then the

931
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: production that you got out of that offensive personnel. Gary

932
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Kubiak is one of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL.

933
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: He's one of the best five. He pretty much maxed

934
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: out and was very consistent year to year with okay quarterbacks.

935
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: He pretty much made the you know offensive line very

936
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: good on you know, running the ball. He took Arian

937
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Foster under. They were a very consistent, good offense for

938
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: seven or years, and now you're changing everything and the

939
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: players don't fit. I'm rooting for Tom Savage to play

940
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: at some point this season because I've never seen a

941
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: two picabra play quarterback. Someone with the Savage jersey was

942
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: in that game. He took he took a couple of sacks.

943
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, that's it for today's edition

944
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: of Around the League Podcast. We will be back as

945
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: an overall entity on Wednesday with another show talking about

946
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the NFL. I will be

947
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: stepping away for a little while. As I said, uh, gentlemen,

948
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: thank you. I really appreciate that. Mark. Well, we're uh,

949
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: we have to stop by the hands of his household,

950
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: I think at some point and visit the new edition.

951
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: Apparently I won't be invited. Well, you you've disinvited yourself essentially,

952
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: But maybe if we can I don't know, keep you

953
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: like in the car or something, and I could hold

954
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: hold turn your son into a bubble boy. Uh so yeah,

955
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: best of luck to you gentlemen holding the ship down.

956
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Total confidence in the operation. Your face be lies, and

957
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I will be listening very closely, so you'll be at'll

958
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: be up late at night killing some time if you

959
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: trying to you know, put him to bed or whatever.

960
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: You know, just I don't really listen to the cry

961
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: and just pop in those you know what you wore

962
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: my newborn shops popping, yeah, popping the earbood. Listen to

963
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: this boy, which would you rather hear fatherhood tips from?

964
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: All right? That's it to Dan Hanzas signing off for

965
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss, and take date by

966
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: the glass to Wednesday.