1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has, of course, promised to cut energy prices 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: by half as the centerpiece of his policy to combat 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: inflation across the board. And the refrain that we heard 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, much like it was in the Twin Cities 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, was drill, Baby, Drill. Now 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: on the other end of these promises, at least in 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: some cases, is the governor of Alaska, and I'm glad 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: to say that he's in Washington today. He came here 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to warm up in our twenty five degree whether Governor 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Mike Dunlavy. It's great to see you in the nation's capitol. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Great to be here at a start of 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Indian radio on a summer day with I think it 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: was twenty seven. I'll be fair here. I want to 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: know what your state is going to look like a 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: year or four from now. Knowing that Donald Trump has 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: talked a lot about not only unwinding regulations, but unwinding 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: limits on drilling in your state, specifically in anwar, how 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: quickly will you get to this and what changes in 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: the offing. 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: It's a great question, Joe. So it depends on the 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: executive orders. Some have said that the President's dropping secret 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: orders immediately, maybe even on the first day. Hopefully some 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: of those executive orders will repeal. With some of the 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: Biden administration folks have done to Alaska, our Senator Dan 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Sullivan has an interesting chart that shows about sixty six 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: sanctions against Alaska is what we call them, since the 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Biden administrations came into play. So, for example, in twenty seventeen, 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: an war was open under the Tax and Jobs Bill, 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: and the Biden administration has really done everything they can 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: to stop those leases from actually going into play. We're 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: supposed to have a sale again, a second sale for 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: leases in an war in December. We're not sure if 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: that's even going to happen. This is required by law, 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: but we'll see when December comes along. But we were 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: questioning whether this administration is going to go through with that. 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: But I would say what Alaska's going to look like 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: is what it's supposed to look like. What this country's 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: supposed to look like is tremendous opportunity under the Trump administration, 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: just like his first term, great conversations with the President 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: during his first term, he always asked this, what does 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: Alaska need? What can we do for Alaska? And under 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: President Trump, we got anwar, we were drilling more, we 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: were moving Western NPR, which is the National Patrolling Reserve, 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: about twenty seven million acres of land in Alaska that 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: was designated solely for oil production and gas production. Very 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: supportively is of our gas line project that is fully 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: permitted that we're trying to finalize. Timber industry. Timber industry 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: disappeared in the longest National forest under the Clinton administration. 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: Hopefully that comes back. But between oil, gas mining, timber, 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: we have tremendous opportunity in Alaska. All we want is 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: the opportunity to be able to develop those resources on 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: federal land, and we're very hopeful with President Trump coming back. 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned the leases under the Biden administration. Seven of 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: them that had been acquired by the Alaska Industrial Development 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: and Export Authority were canceled and two others were abandoned. 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: As a result, You're in an interesting position here as 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: a policymaker, with one hand on Washington the other on industry. 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: There's been a bit of a lucy with the football. 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: According to some producers, K want assurances before they start 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: investing in these leases. What would you tell them, Well. 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: That's that's another thing. That the Trump administration will bring 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: a certainty. So part of the problem with the leases 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: in anwar as you as you mentioned is when you're 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: selling leases, but on the other hand, you're telling folks 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: to not invest in the Arctic, to not put money 66 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: in the Arctic, to not put money into oil. You know, 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: it provides an uncertain future for those investors, and so 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: I think under the Trump administration that's going to change. 69 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: The other thing that's very important, you know, realize, is 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: we're going to need two to three times as much 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: energy as we're producing right now because of data farms, supercomputers. 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: That's rapidly changing that. You know, a gig a gigawat 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: of electricity powers about eight hundred thousand homes. We only 74 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: have seven hundred thousand people in the state of Alaska, 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: so some of these data farms are using more than 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: the power we generate for all of our residents. You're 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: going to have to have as much energy as possible 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: coming from various sources, and we're gonna need it. Sider 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: then later you're. 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Sitting on oil. But a lot of people are talking 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: about nuclear Now do you support that? 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we support all forms of energy, doesn't matter if 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: it's renewables, oil gas, nukes, any and all forms of energy. 84 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: And we actually passed a new exciting bill two years 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: ago that's going to make it easier for nuclear office 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: to come up and take a look at a lot. 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Is that right? So Alaska could be the home of 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: the new nuclear reactor in the United States? 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: Well, I hope so. And we're also looking at a 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: nuclear reactor on one of our military bases at Ailson. 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: So yes, we hope. So, you need as much energy 92 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: as possible, again, from any source we can get it from. 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Or will we see an auction in the early stages 94 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration when it comes to these leases, 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: or do you not have a sensing exactly so that 96 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: procedure will. 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: Be I hope so. And I hope that also pertains 98 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: the offshore oral leases, which were also negatively impacted by 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. So onshore, offshore again, we hope that 100 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: there's a couple of resales, like well, pretty quick. 101 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: The prize for you, unless you tell me otherwise, is 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: a pipeline, a natural gas pipeline that the Trump administration 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: has promise. You actually retweeted a statement by Donald Trump 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: on this what's your expectation. 105 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: What has he told you? Well, we have all the 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: permits for this pipeline. It's a massive pipeline project where 107 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I think we're battling our last court case. So this 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: this pipeline project is really coming together with buyers and 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: sellers of gas. The President has been very consistent. President 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Trump's are very consistent, and he supports this gas line constant. 111 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: What people don't realize is Alaska pioneered energy export for 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: North America in late nineteen sixty sixty eight sixty nine, 113 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: we sent gas to Japan energy out of the Kiski, Alaska, 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: which is south of Anchorage. That occurred for fifty years 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: until our gas got depleted in the cook Inlet. But 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: we're talking about North Slope gas, which is one hundred 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: trillion qb feet to two hundred trillion qubic feet of gas. 118 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: Tremendous amounts of gas. But we're very close to consummating 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: this gas pipeline and I'm pretty excited about it. 120 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: Well, Chris Wright and Doug Bergham Howlpe, you make that happen. 121 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, I know Doug, Doug's a former governor, comes from 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: an energy state. I think I don't rightwell, but from 123 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: what I understand, he's going to do a great job 124 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: as well. But Doug is going to be terrific because 125 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: it's that interface between technology, supercomputing and energy, and his 126 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: role as the energies Are, I think is going to 127 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: pay amazing diffidence. 128 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: For this country energies are, but also the Interior Secretary. 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: He might have something to say about the lands we're 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: talking about. 131 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have more of more blm lands, more parklands 132 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: than any other state in the country in terms of acreage. 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Our population has more Native Americans than any of any 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: other state as a percentage, twenty percent of our population 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: as Native American. And so a lot to do with 136 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: the Apartment of Interior Alaska has. And so we look 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: forward to working with Doug on solving some problems for 138 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: the state and the country. 139 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: The biggest tribe in Alaska supports your move. 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: On energy, most most Native Alaskans, most Alaskans support our 141 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: moves on energy. 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: This is something that's been mischaracterized Absolutelydia. 143 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: How come because it doesn't play to the narrative on 144 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: the left, My wife is an you pack Eskimo, my 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: kids are Eskimo. Their tribal members and their members of 146 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: our native corporations up there. My three girls work at 147 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: the largest legending mine in the world. It's the resource 148 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: extraction industry. Most Native Americans, they're Americans. They want to 149 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: be able to turn their lights on, they want to 150 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: be able to warm their homes. They want to be 151 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: able to drive their machines, their cars or snow machines, 152 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: whatever it is. And so, yeah, energy is important to 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: all of us. 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: They also want to drink clean water and breathe clean air. 155 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Do you worry about the impact on climate change that, 156 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: for instance, the LNG exports is lifting that moratorium looks 157 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: like a day one endeavor for Donald Troy. 158 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: I hope so, And I don't because Alaska takes care 159 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: of this environment probably better than any other place in 160 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: the country. And excuse me, any other place in the world, 161 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: and probably any other place in the country. When you 162 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: shift your resource development overseas, the places like China, places 163 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: in Africa, the Middle East, they don't have the environmental 164 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: regulations that we do. And so by doing it here 165 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: in America, you get the benefits of taking care of 166 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: the environment, jobs, wealth creation, and really opportunity. And this 167 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: energy is really going to be the underpinnings for the 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: supercomputing age, the AI age that we need to be leaders. 169 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: You've got your eyes on data center. Absolutely, that's a 170 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: big deal for Alaska. Or does the distance make it 171 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: difficult to put the data centers themselves in Alaska? Or 172 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: is it about procuring energy in Alaska that will feed 173 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: the data centers here? 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: Well, what we have going for is in Alaska's energy. Yeah, 175 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: we have continuous acres of land. Any large tracks of 176 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: lander have that. We have three times the fresh water 177 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: of any other state. 178 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: So set up the farms in Alaska and we have 179 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: cool temperatures there you go. Absolutely, cooling is a big 180 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: part of this. That's fascinating. I want to talk about you, 181 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: governor and your personal trajectory because a lot of people 182 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: are watching us right now. Joe's talking to the governor 183 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: of Alaska. Is this big timberman looking guy's logging. You're 184 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: from Scranton, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, and after you graduated from college, 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: after spending a life hunting and fishing and being outdoors, 186 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: you decided to just move your life to Alaska. Through 187 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: a connection, you got a job as a logger as 188 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a kid from Scranton, which more people associate with Joe 189 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: Biden than with Mike Dunlavy. What was the scratch or 190 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: the itch you were trying to by making that move? 191 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: Always loved the outdoors and the ultimate outdoor. 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Was it culture shock when you got there? 193 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Not really? Great people in Alaska just like great people 194 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: in Sprant So not really. But it was the outdoors, 195 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: the willderness that drew me there back in nineteen eighty three, 196 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: so right out of college, went to Alaska. 197 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: I never looked back, never looked back. How much time 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: did you spend logging? 199 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Well, that was what learn doing this several months in 200 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: southeast Alaska. Then I moved up north close to the 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Arctic Circle, and I was a teacher for over a 202 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: twenty two years. 203 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: You were a teacher for a long time before you 204 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: got into politics. What did you learn as a logger 205 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: from Scranton, Pennsylvania. 206 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: That jobs are incredibly important, especially for low income folks, 207 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: opportunities very important, and resource development is what Alaska is 208 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: all about. That's why the US acquired Alaska from Russia 209 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: was resource development. And again we do it better than 210 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: anywhere else I think in the world. 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: You then became a teacher, Yes, do you think that 212 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is on the right track to eliminate the 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: Department of Education. As an educator yourself, I. 214 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Do because education was one of those rights that the 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: States never gave up in the Constitution where we formed 216 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: the federal government, because the states believe that their control 217 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: of education was critically important, not the federal government's control. 218 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: And so the Department of Education as a new department 219 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: came in under Jimmy Carter and a number of us 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: that were teachers, administrators, school board members, which I was 221 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: as well. We think you can do things better at 222 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: the local level than you can thousands of miles away 223 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: from Alaska, thousands of miles away from other states, and 224 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: so certainly support the elimination, if possible, of the Department 225 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: of Education. 226 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: What do you do for funding for disabled students some 227 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: of the other expenses that might be hard for. 228 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: Us to run that money through health social services. There's 229 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: many ways to get money to certain groups in the 230 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: educational umbrella. It doesn't have to be through this department 231 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: that currently exists. 232 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people suggested you for a number of 233 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: jobs here in Washington. I heard that, Yeah, you might 234 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: have as well. You're here right now. I don't know 235 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: if who you're talking to, would you consider working for 236 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: this administration? Maybe you should run the Department of Education. 237 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's already got a great pick and 238 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: we McMahon for education. But the President I never talked 239 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: about a job. He knows that I have two years 240 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: left in my term. I barely enjoyed this job, and 241 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: as mentioned earlier, we're on the verge of some big 242 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: projects that we want to make sure you get across 243 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: the finish line. So I've got my hands filled over 244 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: the next two years with the. 245 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: Last Sure did a lot of governors though, say that 246 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: The stock answer is, oh my god, Washington, nothing gets 247 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: done there. I'm better off here. I'm an executive running 248 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: my own state right where I want to be. 249 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: Truth to that too? 250 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Is there truth to that? Does anything get done in Washington? 251 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: With Donald Trump? At the other end of I. 252 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: Think with President Trump, he really wants to change things. 253 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: He really wants to disrupt things. And I say that 254 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 2: in the positive. He really wants to give power back 255 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: to the states, give power back to the people. So 256 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm excited about the possibilities. I saw what he did 257 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: this first term, and he said four years the plan 258 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: for this term. I think it's going to be a 259 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: great four years for this country. 260 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Can he really drop energy prices by fifty percent. 261 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: If we produce more? 262 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you produce more, that's what we're talking about. 263 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Yes. And for a last what we want to have 264 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: is more production. Not necessarily higher prices because higher prices 265 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: hurt Americans start Alaska's but more production. That's where we'll 266 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: get revenue from as well. More production. 267 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: Nice to see you in town. Come see us again. 268 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: The governor of Alaska, Mike Dunlavy. Now you know where 269 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: he's from.