WEBVTT - and Emile Hirsch 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.599 Hello, my loves it is yours truly La La kent Ram, 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.800 and we are back at it again. I'm super excited 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.520 for our guests today because anyone who has more talent 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.160 in their pinky nail than most people have in their 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.520 entire bodies. I'm just fascinated by. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.080 Well so very well said. Trying to comprehend that whole statement. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.599 Did it make any sense. It's a Monday, and I'm 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.080 coming off of Mother's Day. Randall brought my mom and 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.279 my brother in and I'm gonna be honest, like I 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.839 have to force myself to not be lazy. And today 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.800 it's a struggle. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.240 I know, but let's be let's let's give ourselves a 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.000 little a little grace here. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.960 It's we're still in quarantine in Los Angeles. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.200 That word I never win. The this is over you guys, 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.399 I never want to hear the word quarantine ever again. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.640 Yes, so, not only we quarantine, we had family in 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.000 town and it's Monday. It's like, yeah, it's like we 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.760 need to like light a stick of dynamite in our 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.440 asses to wake up. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.080 That's exactly how I feel. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:17.080 Okay, so we. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.200 Got it, but we got to do it today because 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.800 you know, what people rely on us to light them up, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:23.280 so we're going. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:23.800 To do it today. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.680 Honestly, I rely on this podcast to make me feel amazing. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.040 It's like I could be in the worst mood ever, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.959 and then after we record a podcast, I'm like, let's 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.920 get this shit pop in best day ever. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.560 Well, I'm excited because Emil Hirsh. You know, I just 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.560 want to tell you a little story that I first 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.880 spent a meal on Loan Survivor and we share not 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.880 only a love for movies, but we share a love 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.720 for poker, which I know you right now haven't seen 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.720 a lot of poker in the last few months. But 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.000 we were to New Mexico together for a while and 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.880 we every day off we had we played poker together. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.680 He is the nicest human in the world. And now 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.800 I'm fortunate enough to be directing him in this movie Midnight, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.840 So I know there's a lot of movies we both 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.520 love that he's been in, and I think he's gonna 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.600 share some fun stories for us. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.160 It's funny because you say that you guys used to 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.600 play poker, and now with the state that we're in, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.440 you guys play pickleball together. He was just at the 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.360 house is right, whacking some balls around like a like 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:24.200 a little gangster. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.519 Why don't we tell people about your experience that day 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.400 in the pickleball match, your real commitment and. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:35.200 Lack of There's this thing called being like a sore loser, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.000 and that is exactly what I am. If I'm playing 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.840 a game and I'm getting my ass kicked, I will 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.320 just give up and walk away, which is exactly what happened. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.200 Well, and I want to I want to elaborate on 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:46.680 that a little bit. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.360 Okay, I'm sure you do. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.480 You want me to pivot again? Tell no, I want 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.119 to really gonna mock me on Monday. What I want 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.200 to say is you're a really good pick a ball player. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.520 You are, and you're a great athlete. What happened to you? 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.520 What people don't know is that when you get down 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.560 by two or three points, you basically check the fuck out. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.280 And not only do you. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.280 Check out, I'm your partner on team trying to win. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:15.000 Still you're done. You were preaching housewives in the middle 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.399 of the game. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.840 Yeah, well, because I love playing pickleball. But when Randall 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.959 tells me that he wants me to come out and play, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.480 and I'm balls deep in season three of Real Housewives 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.239 of New York and I'm having an epic throwback moment 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.320 and you take me out of that moment, like I'm 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.520 just disconnected. I'm like, I love the game, but I 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.960 love Housewives more. So I'm just like pissed off. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.119 But I will tell you something. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.000 Emil and Lucas Haas, who we had playing with us, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.280 both gave you a lot of props when you went inside, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.520 which I know you'd never heard, but. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.440 They're like, manah, that's cool. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.920 Your chip plays pickleball and she's badass and da da dah. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.040 So they did give you a lot of props just 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.480 for the effort. It just wasn't your greatest pickleball day. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.560 No, neither was yesterday. My mom is on the court. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.400 We're having the best time ever. Here is the thing. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.640 Randal and I should never be on those teams teams 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.000 because way too competitive. And then he's like the most 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.520 annoying winner ever. I love you, Randall, but you are. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.600 And so I'm watching him and he's. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.640 Winning and you don't have to finding it right now, 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.680 I'm watching you on the other side of the net, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.000 and I'm like, God, I want to smack him with 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:25.320 my pickleball racket right now, just over and over again. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.600 Because you're the most annoying winner ever. You love me. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.520 It means that you're like, I mean winning bend Over 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.120 the best winner ever. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.080 It's just like over. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:37.000 I don't know what. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.240 Wait, so you're telling me when I went, I told 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.240 you to bend Over. Okay, this is bullshit. First myself, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.480 I think you're putting on a show here. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:47.039 What is going on? 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.080 I don't know what you're saying. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.919 I'm an you're the worst winner. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.000 I'm a competitive person. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.800 Well so am I. That's what we should be on 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:55.360 the same team. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.680 Well we already agree that going forward, no matter what, 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.320 under any circumstances, we are going to be on same 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:01.240 team for life. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.800 I'm gonna try to be a better folder. But it 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.320 hasn't happened yet. I mean, I'm almost thirty and I've 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.360 been doing this since I was a kid. Like, fuck 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.560 this game, I'm out. If I'm not winning, if. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.479 You're down by two points, you quit. I mean, let's 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:14.760 just be. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.480 Honest, because I'm better than that. I'm a winner, you know, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.599 and when I'm losing, I'm like, you're better than this. Okay, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.159 to just get the fuck out. And have like some pride. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.839 So the crazy thing is you are a really good 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.360 pickleball player. It's just the mental part of the game. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.000 We got to work on a little bit, just. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.440 A little bit. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.880 There's a lot of things mentally I should be working 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.520 on a regular basis, not just when it comes to pickleball. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:40.479 Trust me. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.280 That makes two of us. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.720 All right, Can I say, can I say something? You 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.080 remember my favorite nickname for. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.280 You, Hoopies hoopye. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.280 I wish people could see you right now because you 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.160 have the hoops the size of your head again back 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.720 in and it just makes me so happy. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.920 And with the ear with the headphones. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.720 Face, it's like some robotic mask you have on. It's 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.640 pretty fucking funny. You should you got a screenshot and 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.760 put that on your gram so people at when it 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:06.560 comes out. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.600 Can see what I'm talking about. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.800 All Right, we got to go to break here and 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.440 then after we're gonna bring a meal Hershion. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:23.400 Okay, I like it. All right, We are back, beautiful people, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.080 and we have an epic guest on the line, the greatest, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:27.960 the greatest. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:29.760 We have a meal hersh on the line. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:36.320 The meal Hello, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love the energy. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.440 It's Monday and the meal is firing like. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:44.000 Me Monday, I am no Garfield. I like Mondays. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.320 That's good. So first of all, I want to say, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.760 your pickleball skills are on point. We've I've been talking 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.960 about it since you left the house. I'm gonna kick 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.680 your ass next time you come to the house with 0:06:58.800 --> 0:06:59.400 that little. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:06.640 Zinger, dude. That was honestly, that was some funny, funny, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:11.400 amazing times because like me and Randall are both so 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.080 competitive and when we got on the court, but it's 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.400 funny because I'm such like a like a mental player, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.920 and I actually like Randall's frustration when we were playing 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.760 actually like made me that much better. Like I'm not 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.240 even normally that good, but because Randall was so competitive, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.040 like it like really brought it out of me. And 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.000 that was honestly so much fun I hope that. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.000 You talked that same way when you think of him 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:41.720 as a director. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.600 No, no, no, by the way, by the way, I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.600 actually I told him. I texted him afterwards. I was like, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.480 you know how I know you're a great director, Randall. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.040 You bring the best out of me. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.360 I love that. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.240 I'm not I'm really not joking. There's some people that 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.000 they just they bring the best out of other people 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.400 around them. And Randalls, really, you you are one of 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:05.920 those guys. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.280 Oh, thank you, buddy, And I'll tell you he did 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.120 text me after and that meant a lot. And I 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.239 want to tell you I'm competitive as fucking you whip 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.240 my ass, which I'm very upset about. And I've been 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.280 working every day with a coach. That's how obsessed I am. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.600 So come on back and I'll give you your ass 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:21.480 whipping you deserve. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.160 Well. See, now I'm scared. Now, I'm scared to go back. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.840 By the way, Bil, sometimes it's better to just take 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.920 the win and revel in it forever. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.840 Yeah, just never go back. Like, no, no, I'm good. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.520 I don't play anymore. I'm more into ping pong now, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.280 you know. I went skateboarding the other day with my 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.280 homie Kenny from high school, and he hit me up. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.120 He's like, should we do some like social distance skateboarding 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:51.160 full and I'm like, it's like, literally how we talked 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.520 in high school, just like these dumb ass LA guys. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.160 So I roll up to his place with my skateboard 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.120 and mind you, I did Lords of Dogtown when I 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.360 was nineteen, but I was a skateboarder in middle school. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.240 But it's been frigging years since I've skated. But I 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.240 used to do these kickflips and I could kickflip over things. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.760 So I started skating. And immediately we go we go 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.040 to like some curb, and everyone by the way is 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.120 looking at us, like, what are these guys in their 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.800 mid thirties doing, like with their shirts off, skating on 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.319 the curve And this is this is actually really embarrassing. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.360 But like Kenny's house is right across the like right 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.160 by my son's pediatricians office. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.360 Oh my god, wow, So. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.200 Like I'm literally a shirtless dude skating in front of 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.760 his like son's doctor's office. Like I was like, this 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.400 is kind of this is kind of like weird. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.079 We do it. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.480 Kenny immediately tries to like one d up a curve, 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.560 the board flies out from underneath him and he just 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.560 gets bodied to the chest. Oh for a minute, and 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.960 I'm like, oh no, Kenny, it's been a while now, Like, Kenny, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.840 this was your idea. You can't like break your spine 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.040 on your first trick. But we eventually got a a 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.679 few takes of me kick flipping over aboard. I hadn't 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.200 done that trick in eighteen years. Oh my god, I 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.320 landed it. I stuck it. I put it on my Instagram. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:09.280 I was like so proud of it. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.679 Oh you did you stuck it? 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.560 I did so. I tried to do a kick flip 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:18.239 four days later, and I had like bruised my hamstring 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.840 a week before. So when I landed my first pick 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.160 flip I tried, it was like a shooting pain and 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.480 I just like went to the ground and I was like, oh, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.920 I'm not twelve anymore. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.719 Oh that's when you know you're you're a grown ass man. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.280 Now you can't be doing that stuff. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.760 I disagree, disagree. I just want to tell you that 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:37.920 when I bought my. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.200 Kids a skateboard, it's just because they wanted one and 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:41.920 I thought, I'm going to bring it back to Miami 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:42.520 old school. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:43.320 Did that go for you? 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.840 Not good? But but I just hold on. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.720 First of all, I could kick the board out still, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.080 but I cannot flip that shit anymore. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.560 That's gone. Those days are over over. But I Meil, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:54.400 I give you mad. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.839 Props for going out there and still crushing. I do 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:57.559 mad promm. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.920 Yeah, I mean it had it had Legit been eighteen 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.360 years since I kick flip like a boss over a 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:04.680 staatee word on its side. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.320 And by the way, I just want to tell you 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.760 Lord's a Dogtown for those who have not seen it, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.040 is one of the greatest ever, I mean, just epic film. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.640 And I just want to ask I just want to ask. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.400 You a few questions, like, because people have watched you, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.840 you you've won awards, you've been nominated for everything, and 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.280 you're considered and I'm gonna blow your ego up. You 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.720 are considered one of those actors that are the real deal. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.920 And when I say that from an industry point of view, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.439 I think audiences know, but they don't know how to 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:32.160 verbalize it. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.120 It's like there's the Joaquin. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.439 Phoenixes, that Daniel day Lewis's and the Emial Hersch's of 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.760 the world, people that you know, when you bring them 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.040 onto a film, you're gonna get the highest level of quality. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.520 And I've always said that to you since we did 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.040 Loan Survivor together, and you know that. I mean, I 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.199 know you don't say it, but they're just certain actors 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.800 that are true artists that. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.280 Really cannot stop watching it. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:54.960 You can't stop watching it, and you're one of them. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.240 Just tell people how you started, like in the industry, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.199 just you know, how did you get out, Like you 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.400 know you grew up in La How did it all happen? 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.000 Yeah, Well, first off, I want to give a shout 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:12.760 out to my recently, very recently deceee late grandfather's brother. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.720 My I guess he's my granduncle Cliff, who died a 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.600 few weeks ago at the extraordinary age of ninety nine. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.440 Oh and uh great guide and he him and his 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:29.000 wife's Gladys, were famous Hollywood studio teachers, like for like 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.160 forty years, so they and they lived out in Malibu. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.160 So when me and my sister were kids, my dad 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.680 used to take us out there, and Cliff and Gladys 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.319 used to be like, oh, yeah, we were teaching Elijah 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.120 Wood on set and kids on this and this and this, 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.120 and you kids could do it if you want. And 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.040 Gladys was super encouraging. And I was like six or seven, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.040 and my sister was really into it. So I was like, well, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.160 this sounds kind of weird, but it sounds kind of 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.880 cool being in a movie and like getting paid and like, oh, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.199 lots pretty cool, you know. I was like, man, I 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.360 could probably buy a lot of toys with that loop. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.960 Yeah, oh my god, yeah, no, fully, Fully what age 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:03.560 was this again? 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.959 It was probably like six or six or seven we 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.360 started hearing the stories from Cliff and Gladys, so by 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.000 like eight or nine, Like my dad he you know, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.079 he talked to some agent in Hollywood. I think it 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.480 was like Julia Roberts's agent at the time. He somehow 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.240 got a hold of her and asked her some questions 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.360 and she recommended him to like Samuel French bookstore, which 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.760 is basically like the like oh yeah, out of my face, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.800 random person. It's like, oh yeah, I just go to 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.280 Samuel French Bookstore and look up how to Anything. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.280 By the way Sunset Boulevard, Samuel French, I remember. I remember. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.240 It's like the big acting playwrights, you know. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.280 Yeah, So my dad got this book how to like 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.680 how to Raise a Rising Star Guide to show biz 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.040 kids and their parents by this guy David Mattis, who 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.960 was He's like a manager surfer out in Venice who 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.600 like basically just like had kids going like commercial auditions 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.600 and book little jobs and he would like surf half 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.800 today and he was a cool guy. So we met 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.680 We went and met him and at first, he didn't 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.440 want it to do with me, like this guy's boofy, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.280 he can't remember any line. My sister was like way 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.800 cooler and like went more into it. And then over 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.439 the years it was like a thing where I did 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.840 a couple of summer camps, you know, into panga doing 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.080 like Shakespeare, and I associated acting because I went to 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.280 this will gear. Theatrical botanic of summer camp was like 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.680 being outside in nature in the summer and like playing, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.440 so it was like the best intro to acting, you know, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.640 was like, yeah, it was like outside fun with other kids, like, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.560 oh this is this is fun. This is like a 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.560 hike with costumes. And then it just I just inched 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.120 my way forward, like year after year. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:39.440 It was. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.960 It was not like, oh, we got discovered and put 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.520 in this lead role in the movie. It was like 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.200 I really did like grind it out from like ten 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.520 to like fifteen of just doing tiny like bigger and 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.320 bigger parts like commercials and then little parts on guest stars, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.920 and then slightly bigger parts and then a TV movie 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.560 and then you know what I mean. And then finally, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.440 like when I was like fifteen, I got a role 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:03.960 in a movie. It was the first movie that I'd 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.520 ever done, and then that actually was the lead role 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.760 in the movie. Is this movie called The Dangerous Lives 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.160 of Ultra Boys with Karen Colkan and genlem Alone and 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.320 they're both great and wait. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.200 Was it Jody Foster in that movie too, and. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.760 Jody Yeah, Jody and Jody produced it too. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.360 Just a few little actors you work with, Yeah. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.560 Yeah, yeah, and we had and that was just it 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.000 was It was cool. So you know, I had a 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.960 you know, from then, I just kind of kept doing it, 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.400 and it was a thing where I think halfway like 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.520 in like my late teens, mid teens, like I started 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.240 really like getting into other older actors, you know, like 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.520 Sean Penn and Marlon Brando and you know Meryl Street 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.800 Caitlin's like he's just great, yeah, just great actors and 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.920 like studying them for the first time and really appreciating them. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.280 I remember my sister's boyfriend when I was like fourteen 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:56.000 or fifteen. He was like this shaved head Buddhist monk dude, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.880 who's cool, but he was like obsessed with Brando When 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.120 he sat me down and played street car named Desire 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.880 and was like watch his every move. Here's the genius 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.920 and I was like what And then I started watching 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.080 and I was like, wow, you kind of got a point, Alex. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.080 Dude, that's amazing. I remember the first time I saw 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.400 you step into the scene, which I must have been 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:22.560 maybe high school, and you did The Girl next Door. Yeah, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.280 And it's crazy to me because that movie was very 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:32.320 lighthearted and fun. And then you're doing movies with you know, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.640 Mark Wahlberg, and then you did you know I once 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.360 upon a time in Hollywood, Like your range is incredible 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:41.200 and effortless. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:42.720 It's insane, and I want to I want to say 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.160 something to that effect. I mean, I got to work 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.520 with one loan survivor and an epic film that I 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.400 think we both feel is probably a special moment in 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.960 both of our lives. But I got to tell you 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.400 Into the Wild is, and I'm still a fan girl over. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:58.880 Into the Wild. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.320 Just tell I know you've done this one hundred times, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.080 but just give us, like how brutal was the production period? 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.439 How long was it and what were the what was 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.480 the environment like? Because you know me, you could call 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.600 me at the four Seasons of the Rets. That's that's 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:13.520 about as brutal as. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:14.000 I can feel. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:14.720 That's funny. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.240 Yeah, but tell me how, like, was it really as 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.240 ruthless as the film feels when you're watching it? 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.520 The environment, I mean, I would say, And obviously I 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.680 haven't been on every movie shoot and actor's ever done, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.720 but in terms of like the physical and mental pressure, 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:40.280 I honestly don't know if there's ever quite been a 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.280 role for an actor that would have that, because I 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.720 remember at the time being like, I like, I don't 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.960 even know if I can, Like this is so hard, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.040 this is like I was like, I don't know, Like 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.840 I think I did it because I was twenty one, right, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.600 and I was really really like so motivated. I knew 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.080 I had the role of a lifetime. I worshiped Sean Pan. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.320 I still worship Sean. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.600 Oh, He's the greatest. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.800 He's just a god to me, to the point where 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.760 it's actually like affected our friendship because I'm just such 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.680 a sick a fan around them, and you know, he 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.359 like he hates that, you know what I mean, but 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.640 just like I can't help, but I just like I'm 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.679 normal around most people, and then I get around Sean 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.320 and I just turn into this fan girl, and I 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.880 know he's just disgusted, and I can't. I can't, I can't. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:35.400 I'm dying. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.960 This is the fun. I mean, what's crazy if people 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.080 don't know? And I know you're a very private person 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.679