1 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Hello, my loves it is yours truly La La kent Ram, 2 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and we are back at it again. I'm super excited 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: for our guests today because anyone who has more talent 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: in their pinky nail than most people have in their 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: entire bodies. I'm just fascinated by. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Well so very well said. Trying to comprehend that whole statement. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: Did it make any sense. It's a Monday, and I'm 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: coming off of Mother's Day. Randall brought my mom and 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: my brother in and I'm gonna be honest, like I 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: have to force myself to not be lazy. And today 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: it's a struggle. 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: I know, but let's be let's let's give ourselves a 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: little a little grace here. 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: It's we're still in quarantine in Los Angeles. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: That word I never win. The this is over you guys, 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: I never want to hear the word quarantine ever again. 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: Yes, so, not only we quarantine, we had family in 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: town and it's Monday. It's like, yeah, it's like we 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: need to like light a stick of dynamite in our 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: asses to wake up. 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I feel. 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so we. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: Got it, but we got to do it today because 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, what people rely on us to light them up, 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: so we're going. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: To do it today. 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, I rely on this podcast to make me feel amazing. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: It's like I could be in the worst mood ever, 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: and then after we record a podcast, I'm like, let's 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: get this shit pop in best day ever. 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited because Emil Hirsh. You know, I just 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: want to tell you a little story that I first 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: spent a meal on Loan Survivor and we share not 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: only a love for movies, but we share a love 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: for poker, which I know you right now haven't seen 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: a lot of poker in the last few months. But 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: we were to New Mexico together for a while and 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: we every day off we had we played poker together. 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: He is the nicest human in the world. And now 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: I'm fortunate enough to be directing him in this movie Midnight, 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: So I know there's a lot of movies we both 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: love that he's been in, and I think he's gonna 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: share some fun stories for us. 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: It's funny because you say that you guys used to 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: play poker, and now with the state that we're in, 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: you guys play pickleball together. He was just at the 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: house is right, whacking some balls around like a like 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: a little gangster. 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: Why don't we tell people about your experience that day 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: in the pickleball match, your real commitment and. 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Lack of There's this thing called being like a sore loser, 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: and that is exactly what I am. If I'm playing 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: a game and I'm getting my ass kicked, I will 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: just give up and walk away, which is exactly what happened. 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: Well, and I want to I want to elaborate on 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: that a little bit. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure you do. 58 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: You want me to pivot again? Tell no, I want 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: to really gonna mock me on Monday. What I want 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: to say is you're a really good pick a ball player. 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: You are, and you're a great athlete. What happened to you? 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: What people don't know is that when you get down 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: by two or three points, you basically check the fuck out. 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: And not only do you. 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: Check out, I'm your partner on team trying to win. 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: Still you're done. You were preaching housewives in the middle 67 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 3: of the game. 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because I love playing pickleball. But when Randall 69 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: tells me that he wants me to come out and play, 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: and I'm balls deep in season three of Real Housewives 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: of New York and I'm having an epic throwback moment 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: and you take me out of that moment, like I'm 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: just disconnected. I'm like, I love the game, but I 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: love Housewives more. So I'm just like pissed off. 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 2: But I will tell you something. 76 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Emil and Lucas Haas, who we had playing with us, 77 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: both gave you a lot of props when you went inside, 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: which I know you'd never heard, but. 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: They're like, manah, that's cool. 80 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Your chip plays pickleball and she's badass and da da dah. 81 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: So they did give you a lot of props just 82 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: for the effort. It just wasn't your greatest pickleball day. 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: No, neither was yesterday. My mom is on the court. 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: We're having the best time ever. Here is the thing. 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Randal and I should never be on those teams teams 86 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: because way too competitive. And then he's like the most 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: annoying winner ever. I love you, Randall, but you are. 88 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And so I'm watching him and he's. 89 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: Winning and you don't have to finding it right now, 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: I'm watching you on the other side of the net, 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like, God, I want to smack him with 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: my pickleball racket right now, just over and over again. 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Because you're the most annoying winner ever. You love me. 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: It means that you're like, I mean winning bend Over 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: the best winner ever. 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: It's just like over. 97 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: Wait, so you're telling me when I went, I told 99 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: you to bend Over. Okay, this is bullshit. First myself, 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: I think you're putting on a show here. 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: What is going on? 102 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying. 103 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: I'm an you're the worst winner. 104 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm a competitive person. 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Well so am I. That's what we should be on 106 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the same team. 107 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: Well we already agree that going forward, no matter what, 108 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: under any circumstances, we are going to be on same 109 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: team for life. 110 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to be a better folder. But it 111 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. I mean, I'm almost thirty and I've 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: been doing this since I was a kid. Like, fuck 113 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: this game, I'm out. If I'm not winning, if. 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: You're down by two points, you quit. I mean, let's 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: just be. 116 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: Honest, because I'm better than that. I'm a winner, you know, 117 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: and when I'm losing, I'm like, you're better than this. Okay, 118 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: to just get the fuck out. And have like some pride. 119 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: So the crazy thing is you are a really good 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: pickleball player. It's just the mental part of the game. 121 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: We got to work on a little bit, just. 122 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: A little bit. 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things mentally I should be working 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, not just when it comes to pickleball. 125 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Trust me. 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: That makes two of us. 127 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: All right, Can I say, can I say something? You 128 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: remember my favorite nickname for. 129 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: You, Hoopies hoopye. 130 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: I wish people could see you right now because you 131 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: have the hoops the size of your head again back 132 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: in and it just makes me so happy. 133 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: And with the ear with the headphones. 134 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: Face, it's like some robotic mask you have on. It's 135 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: pretty fucking funny. You should you got a screenshot and 136 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: put that on your gram so people at when it 137 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: comes out. 138 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: Can see what I'm talking about. 139 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: All Right, we got to go to break here and 140 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: then after we're gonna bring a meal Hershion. 141 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. All right, We are back, beautiful people, 142 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: and we have an epic guest on the line, the greatest, 143 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: the greatest. 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: We have a meal hersh on the line. 145 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: The meal Hello, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love the energy. 146 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: It's Monday and the meal is firing like. 147 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: Me Monday, I am no Garfield. I like Mondays. 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: That's good. So first of all, I want to say, 149 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: your pickleball skills are on point. We've I've been talking 150 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: about it since you left the house. I'm gonna kick 151 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: your ass next time you come to the house with 152 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: that little. 153 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: Zinger, dude. That was honestly, that was some funny, funny, 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: amazing times because like me and Randall are both so 155 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: competitive and when we got on the court, but it's 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: funny because I'm such like a like a mental player, 157 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: and I actually like Randall's frustration when we were playing 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: actually like made me that much better. Like I'm not 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: even normally that good, but because Randall was so competitive, 160 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: like it like really brought it out of me. And 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: that was honestly so much fun I hope that. 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: You talked that same way when you think of him 163 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: as a director. 164 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: No, no, no, by the way, by the way, I 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: actually I told him. I texted him afterwards. I was like, 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: you know how I know you're a great director, Randall. 167 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: You bring the best out of me. 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: I love that. 169 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm really not joking. There's some people that 170 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 5: they just they bring the best out of other people 171 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: around them. And Randalls, really, you you are one of 172 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: those guys. 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, buddy, And I'll tell you he did 174 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: text me after and that meant a lot. And I 175 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 3: want to tell you I'm competitive as fucking you whip 176 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: my ass, which I'm very upset about. And I've been 177 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: working every day with a coach. That's how obsessed I am. 178 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: So come on back and I'll give you your ass 179 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: whipping you deserve. 180 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: Well. See, now I'm scared. Now, I'm scared to go back. 181 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: By the way, Bil, sometimes it's better to just take 182 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: the win and revel in it forever. 183 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, just never go back. Like, no, no, I'm good. 184 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: I don't play anymore. I'm more into ping pong now, 185 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: you know. I went skateboarding the other day with my 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 5: homie Kenny from high school, and he hit me up. 187 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: He's like, should we do some like social distance skateboarding 188 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: full and I'm like, it's like, literally how we talked 189 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: in high school, just like these dumb ass LA guys. 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 5: So I roll up to his place with my skateboard 191 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: and mind you, I did Lords of Dogtown when I 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: was nineteen, but I was a skateboarder in middle school. 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: But it's been frigging years since I've skated. But I 194 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: used to do these kickflips and I could kickflip over things. 195 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: So I started skating. And immediately we go we go 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: to like some curb, and everyone by the way is 197 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: looking at us, like, what are these guys in their 198 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: mid thirties doing, like with their shirts off, skating on 199 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 5: the curve And this is this is actually really embarrassing. 200 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: But like Kenny's house is right across the like right 201 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: by my son's pediatricians office. 202 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow, So. 203 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 5: Like I'm literally a shirtless dude skating in front of 204 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: his like son's doctor's office. Like I was like, this 205 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: is kind of this is kind of like weird. 206 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: We do it. 207 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: Kenny immediately tries to like one d up a curve, 208 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: the board flies out from underneath him and he just 209 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: gets bodied to the chest. Oh for a minute, and 210 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh no, Kenny, it's been a while now, Like, Kenny, 211 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: this was your idea. You can't like break your spine 212 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: on your first trick. But we eventually got a a 213 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 5: few takes of me kick flipping over aboard. I hadn't 214 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 5: done that trick in eighteen years. Oh my god, I 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: landed it. I stuck it. I put it on my Instagram. 216 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 5: I was like so proud of it. 217 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: Oh you did you stuck it? 218 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 5: I did so. I tried to do a kick flip 219 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 5: four days later, and I had like bruised my hamstring 220 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: a week before. So when I landed my first pick 221 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: flip I tried, it was like a shooting pain and 222 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: I just like went to the ground and I was like, oh, 223 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: I'm not twelve anymore. 224 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's when you know you're you're a grown ass man. 225 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Now you can't be doing that stuff. 226 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: I disagree, disagree. I just want to tell you that 227 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: when I bought my. 228 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: Kids a skateboard, it's just because they wanted one and 229 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: I thought, I'm going to bring it back to Miami 230 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: old school. 231 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: Did that go for you? 232 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: Not good? But but I just hold on. 233 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: First of all, I could kick the board out still, 234 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: but I cannot flip that shit anymore. 235 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: That's gone. Those days are over over. But I Meil, 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: I give you mad. 237 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: Props for going out there and still crushing. I do 238 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: mad promm. 239 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it had it had Legit been eighteen 240 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 5: years since I kick flip like a boss over a 241 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: staatee word on its side. 242 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: And by the way, I just want to tell you 243 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: Lord's a Dogtown for those who have not seen it, 244 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: is one of the greatest ever, I mean, just epic film. 245 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: And I just want to ask I just want to ask. 246 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: You a few questions, like, because people have watched you, 247 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: you you've won awards, you've been nominated for everything, and 248 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: you're considered and I'm gonna blow your ego up. You 249 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: are considered one of those actors that are the real deal. 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: And when I say that from an industry point of view, 251 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: I think audiences know, but they don't know how to 252 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: verbalize it. 253 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: It's like there's the Joaquin. 254 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: Phoenixes, that Daniel day Lewis's and the Emial Hersch's of 255 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: the world, people that you know, when you bring them 256 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: onto a film, you're gonna get the highest level of quality. 257 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: And I've always said that to you since we did 258 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: Loan Survivor together, and you know that. I mean, I 259 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: know you don't say it, but they're just certain actors 260 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: that are true artists that. 261 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Really cannot stop watching it. 262 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: You can't stop watching it, and you're one of them. 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Just tell people how you started, like in the industry, 264 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: just you know, how did you get out, Like you 265 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: know you grew up in La How did it all happen? 266 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, first off, I want to give a shout 267 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: out to my recently, very recently deceee late grandfather's brother. 268 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: My I guess he's my granduncle Cliff, who died a 269 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: few weeks ago at the extraordinary age of ninety nine. 270 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: Oh and uh great guide and he him and his 271 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: wife's Gladys, were famous Hollywood studio teachers, like for like 272 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: forty years, so they and they lived out in Malibu. 273 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: So when me and my sister were kids, my dad 274 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: used to take us out there, and Cliff and Gladys 275 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: used to be like, oh, yeah, we were teaching Elijah 276 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: Wood on set and kids on this and this and this, 277 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 5: and you kids could do it if you want. And 278 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: Gladys was super encouraging. And I was like six or seven, 279 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: and my sister was really into it. So I was like, well, 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: this sounds kind of weird, but it sounds kind of 281 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: cool being in a movie and like getting paid and like, oh, 282 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 5: lots pretty cool, you know. I was like, man, I 283 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: could probably buy a lot of toys with that loop. 284 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, no, fully, Fully what age 285 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: was this again? 286 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 5: It was probably like six or six or seven we 287 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: started hearing the stories from Cliff and Gladys, so by 288 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: like eight or nine, Like my dad he you know, 289 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 5: he talked to some agent in Hollywood. I think it 290 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: was like Julia Roberts's agent at the time. He somehow 291 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: got a hold of her and asked her some questions 292 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: and she recommended him to like Samuel French bookstore, which 293 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: is basically like the like oh yeah, out of my face, 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: random person. It's like, oh yeah, I just go to 295 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 5: Samuel French Bookstore and look up how to Anything. 296 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: By the way Sunset Boulevard, Samuel French, I remember. I remember. 297 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: It's like the big acting playwrights, you know. 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, So my dad got this book how to like 299 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 5: how to Raise a Rising Star Guide to show biz 300 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: kids and their parents by this guy David Mattis, who 301 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 5: was He's like a manager surfer out in Venice who 302 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: like basically just like had kids going like commercial auditions 303 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: and book little jobs and he would like surf half 304 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 5: today and he was a cool guy. So we met 305 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 5: We went and met him and at first, he didn't 306 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: want it to do with me, like this guy's boofy, 307 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: he can't remember any line. My sister was like way 308 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 5: cooler and like went more into it. And then over 309 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 5: the years it was like a thing where I did 310 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: a couple of summer camps, you know, into panga doing 311 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 5: like Shakespeare, and I associated acting because I went to 312 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 5: this will gear. Theatrical botanic of summer camp was like 313 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: being outside in nature in the summer and like playing, 314 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: so it was like the best intro to acting, you know, 315 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, it was like outside fun with other kids, like, 316 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: oh this is this is fun. This is like a 317 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: hike with costumes. And then it just I just inched 318 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: my way forward, like year after year. 319 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: It was. 320 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: It was not like, oh, we got discovered and put 321 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: in this lead role in the movie. It was like 322 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 5: I really did like grind it out from like ten 323 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: to like fifteen of just doing tiny like bigger and 324 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: bigger parts like commercials and then little parts on guest stars, 325 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: and then slightly bigger parts and then a TV movie 326 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: and then you know what I mean. And then finally, 327 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: like when I was like fifteen, I got a role 328 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: in a movie. It was the first movie that I'd 329 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: ever done, and then that actually was the lead role 330 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: in the movie. Is this movie called The Dangerous Lives 331 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: of Ultra Boys with Karen Colkan and genlem Alone and 332 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 5: they're both great and wait. 333 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: Was it Jody Foster in that movie too, and. 334 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 5: Jody Yeah, Jody and Jody produced it too. 335 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: Just a few little actors you work with, Yeah. 336 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and we had and that was just it 337 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: was It was cool. So you know, I had a 338 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: you know, from then, I just kind of kept doing it, 339 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: and it was a thing where I think halfway like 340 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: in like my late teens, mid teens, like I started 341 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: really like getting into other older actors, you know, like 342 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: Sean Penn and Marlon Brando and you know Meryl Street 343 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: Caitlin's like he's just great, yeah, just great actors and 344 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: like studying them for the first time and really appreciating them. 345 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: I remember my sister's boyfriend when I was like fourteen 346 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: or fifteen. He was like this shaved head Buddhist monk dude, 347 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: who's cool, but he was like obsessed with Brando When 348 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: he sat me down and played street car named Desire 349 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: and was like watch his every move. Here's the genius 350 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: and I was like what And then I started watching 351 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: and I was like, wow, you kind of got a point, Alex. 352 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Dude, that's amazing. I remember the first time I saw 353 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: you step into the scene, which I must have been 354 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: maybe high school, and you did The Girl next Door. Yeah, 355 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: And it's crazy to me because that movie was very 356 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: lighthearted and fun. And then you're doing movies with you know, 357 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, and then you did you know I once 358 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: upon a time in Hollywood, Like your range is incredible 359 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: and effortless. 360 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: It's insane, and I want to I want to say 361 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: something to that effect. I mean, I got to work 362 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: with one loan survivor and an epic film that I 363 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: think we both feel is probably a special moment in 364 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: both of our lives. But I got to tell you 365 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: Into the Wild is, and I'm still a fan girl over. 366 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: Into the Wild. 367 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: Just tell I know you've done this one hundred times, 368 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: but just give us, like how brutal was the production period? 369 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: How long was it and what were the what was 370 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: the environment like? Because you know me, you could call 371 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: me at the four Seasons of the Rets. That's that's 372 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: about as brutal as. 373 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: I can feel. 374 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: That's funny. 375 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell me how, like, was it really as 376 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: ruthless as the film feels when you're watching it? 377 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: The environment, I mean, I would say, And obviously I 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: haven't been on every movie shoot and actor's ever done, 379 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 5: but in terms of like the physical and mental pressure, 380 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: I honestly don't know if there's ever quite been a 381 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: role for an actor that would have that, because I 382 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: remember at the time being like, I like, I don't 383 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: even know if I can, Like this is so hard, 384 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: this is like I was like, I don't know, Like 385 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 5: I think I did it because I was twenty one, right, 386 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: and I was really really like so motivated. I knew 387 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: I had the role of a lifetime. I worshiped Sean Pan. 388 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: I still worship Sean. 389 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: Oh, He's the greatest. 390 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: He's just a god to me, to the point where 391 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: it's actually like affected our friendship because I'm just such 392 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 5: a sick a fan around them, and you know, he 393 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: like he hates that, you know what I mean, but 394 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 5: just like I can't help, but I just like I'm 395 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 5: normal around most people, and then I get around Sean 396 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: and I just turn into this fan girl, and I 397 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 5: know he's just disgusted, and I can't. I can't, I can't. 398 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm dying. 399 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: This is the fun. I mean, what's crazy if people 400 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: don't know? And I know you're a very private person 401 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: and so we appreciate you being on here, but like 402 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: you're around the biggest movie stars in the world, and 403 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: a lot of them are your friends because you guys 404 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: just grew up together. So for you to like even 405 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: have this conversation that you're in awe of Seana is like, 406 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: it's just it's crazy to me because I know the 407 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: kinds of actors that you're friends with and and and create. 408 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: So that's that's amazing that you still have that kind 409 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: of you know thing. 410 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Sean he just he has this fiery 411 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: heart of integrity and courage and his drive and it 412 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: just it extends to so many different aspects of his 413 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: life and everything, all the activity activism he does in 414 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: the humanitarian work. He's just he's so the man. And 415 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: making that film, like because I felt the way I 416 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: did about Sean, it was like I did whatever that 417 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: was asked, and you know, I wasn't like known or anything, 418 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: Like I could not imagine any movie star doing that 419 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: at all. There's just no like there's there's no way. 420 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: Was there ever a moment on that movie where you 421 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: ever asked yourself like, holy shit, this is really scary, 422 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: Like this is a moment I've been here, Like they're 423 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: really pushing the boundaries, the environment is really fucking with you, 424 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: or you know, did you always just feel like, Okay, 425 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: it's just a tough shoot, Like just curious at twenty one? 426 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: Did you ever have that moment? 427 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 5: I mean, there were there were so many times that 428 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: I felt like that that it was almost like when 429 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: I didn't feel like that, I noticed it. I was like, oh, wow, 430 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: I don't feel like you know, because so much because 431 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: we didn't there was no stuntman, so the all the 432 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: hiking and the kind of the wildness it was. It 433 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: was just the most physical part I've ever done. And 434 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: then when you mix that on top with the kind 435 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: of the isolation of the role and how the pressure 436 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: as a performer of being so solo in that capacity 437 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: for such a long period of time also is like 438 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 5: a little bit of play. And then when we did 439 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 5: the weight loss, Oh. 440 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many how many pounds did you lose for that? 441 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm sure a lot of our listeners want to 442 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: know how you lost what forty pounds for this role? 443 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 5: Oh? It was like, yeah, it was like forty two. 444 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: So I basically I started running like a beast early on, 445 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 5: like a beast because I was actually a little bit 446 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 5: out of shape when I got the part, and Sean 447 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 5: was like, you should get real fit, even to just 448 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: be the normal Chrisma canas because mcalleas was fit. So 449 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 5: I lost a bunch of weight even before we started shooting, 450 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: and then once we were shooting, I just became a runner, 451 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 5: salad eater. And then when we did the maximum weight 452 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: loss part, it was like we shut down for like 453 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: two and a half weeks and I was doing like 454 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 5: this tiny, tiny, tiny diet of eating little protein shakes, 455 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: but I was doing two spin classes a day, one 456 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 5: in the morning and one in the late afternoon, and 457 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 5: it was like maximum That was definitely the I think 458 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: the hardest thing I've ever done, because it was like 459 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 5: two months or so where I was like all I 460 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: could think about was food. 461 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Of course, when you're being deprived of it. Yeah, on 462 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: top of you know, anyone who does spin classes, even 463 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: just one, I can't imagine doing two today. That is 464 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: so taxing on your body. 465 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard, and like eating nothing between the classes 466 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 5: was like it was just really extreme. 467 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Dude, you're a legend. You're gonna hear legendary. 468 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time losing three pounds, let 469 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: alone forty two. 470 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 5: But that's what the the funny part is that I do. 471 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 5: I do too. It's not like I could do that regularly. 472 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 5: You know, It's like it it takes. It takes like 473 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: that kind of you know, situation to sort of bring 474 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 5: that out of you where you know, it's like you know, 475 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: the you know, the pressures on and you wanted I 476 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: wanted to do it right, and that role and that 477 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 5: story meant so much to me, and I knew I 478 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: think I really didn't know at the time that the 479 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: movie was going to be like remembered for a long time, 480 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: because like even now, it's crazy, Like I get messages 481 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 5: from people in every country around the world on Instagram 482 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 5: and stuff that have seen the movie and they're like 483 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: obsessed with it, and like every country like it's crazy. 484 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 5: It's like smash hit in India, It's smash hit in Asia. 485 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 5: You know, it's smash it in South America. And the people, 486 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 5: the people that really get into it are like it's 487 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 5: not a normal movie experience for them, you know it 488 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 5: like really is it? Like a lot of people feel 489 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 5: like it's changed their lives in. 490 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: Wow huge way. 491 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: I want to say to that it really resonated even 492 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 3: to this day with me, and I agree with Neil. 493 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: It's just when a movie has that kind of effect 494 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: on such a mass amount of people, you really did 495 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: something special. And I know that's what we all dream 496 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: and that's why we make movies. And that movie checked 497 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: every box. In my opinion, it's just every box on 498 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: every level. 499 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: It just was. It's just there's nothing that you know. 500 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: You could criticize so many movies for so many different 501 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: reasons we all do. There are a few movies that 502 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: you cannot and that's one of them. 503 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: So I'll give you mad thanks. 504 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: Ugh. Yeah, it's a we're. 505 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: Gonna We're gonna go to a quick break and when 506 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 3: we come back, I want to talk about Once upon 507 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 3: a Time of Hollywood, another epic role in movie. And 508 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 3: obviously I know you have this awesome blossoming music career 509 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: and I want to hit on that to move back. 510 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: In a minute, we are back with a meal, hirsh 511 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: and I'm just like my Jaws on the floor because 512 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: everything that you've done with your career, and you so 513 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: deserve it, because I feel like anybody who cares about 514 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: their craft as much as you do and just bringing 515 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: a story to life and making people that are watching 516 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: want to feel something is truly incredible. You don't find 517 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: that very often in actors. You know, it's just something 518 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: where they show up, they do their job. But the 519 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: way he was, the way a Mill was talking about 520 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: into the Wild, I was like, every like magical. 521 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. 522 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: So on that note, Lala and I obviously were lucky 523 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 3: enough to have gotten to go through the awards circuit 524 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: and we saw you everywhere during during and you know, 525 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: it's funny because we could plane and now we're in 526 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: this pandemic lockdown and it's like, I I could. 527 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Have that moment again. 528 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: But you know, congratulations and you were side by side, 529 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: and you guys want a plethora of awards and once 530 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: upon a time in Hollywood, tell us just that experience 531 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: working with the great Quentin Tarantino and the cast, you know, 532 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I know, Leo's one of your Leo DiCaprio 533 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: is one of your close friends, and all these guys 534 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: you work with, I know, you know. 535 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Just what's the takeaway? How epic was it? 536 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: Well? It originated where I got a message on Facebook 537 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: a friend request from a little from a doll. It 538 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 5: was like a doll emoji or something that said Quentin Tarantino, 539 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: and I was like what I was like, is this 540 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 5: like some weird catfish or something? So I click, I 541 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: like clicked onto like mutual friends, and I was like, wow, 542 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 5: well he turns with that person. That person's like not 543 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 5: like that. That person's kind of legit. So I like 544 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: accepted the friend request and then I got this message 545 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: like hey me, what's up? And I was like, uh, 546 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: is this you? And he's like yeah, I'm like working 547 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: on a project. Might have like a part that you 548 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: might be right for. And I was like, oh my god. 549 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: If this is some like Sri Lankan teenager in a 550 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: basement right now, I'm going to be so annoyed. And 551 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, no, this is me? Is this 552 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 5: you like this? This would really be cool if this 553 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: is you. And he's like it's me and I was 554 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: like okay, and he's like I'll keep you updated. So 555 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: like months went by and I wouldn't hear from this 556 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 5: Facebook account and every now, and I'd be like, oh, 557 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: you know, I'm still kind of progressing and this and this, 558 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: but I still didn't know if it was real. Oh 559 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 5: and I was so I was so excited. And originally, 560 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: like I asked my agent, I was like this, this 561 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: guy claiming to be Quentin Tarantino sent me a message 562 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 5: that he might be in his movie. And my agent 563 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: was kind of like, sounds a little you know, yeah, 564 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 5: like you know, like you might be a little hopeful kid. 565 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 5: But it turned out to really be a real thing. 566 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: And it was like almost a year later that the 567 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: movie even into production. Like he really hit me up early, 568 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 5: and he had seen this movie, I did The Autopsy 569 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: of Jane Doe. He'd watched it with Eli Ross and 570 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 5: they just loved this movie. And he just he saw 571 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: me as this character j C. Bring, who was this 572 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: amazing hairstylence of the Error era, and he just was like, 573 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 5: he's the guy, and Quinn is He's really He's just 574 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 5: a great He's a great guy. He's got a huge heart. 575 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: He's just got this turbine engine of a mind that 576 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 5: just never stops. And I really, you know, he was 577 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: he was such a cool gentleman throughout the process, and 578 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: I have obviously I was so in awe of him 579 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 5: for such a long time and the chance to get 580 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: to work alongside him and Margo and Leo, and it 581 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 5: was just it really felt like for me at the time, 582 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: it was like if you get to do a Queen Tuarantine, 583 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: that like that's the excite the most exciting director and 584 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 5: actor could want to work with, you know. It's just 585 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: that that excitement that zing, and it was it was amazing. 586 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: It was it was really amazing. And it's funny because 587 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 5: my biggest flaw for the people that I really admire 588 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: is like, it's just I get starstruck by people. It's 589 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: hard for me to like relax, you know, interesting to 590 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 5: hear that well when Tarantino says action, it's like, it's 591 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 5: just it's so hard for me to like be chill. 592 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh my god. 593 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a moment that you know is 594 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: going to be in history, because it's just everything Quentin Tarantino, 595 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: like Martin Scorsese, they make films that stand for generations. 596 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: So you probably know subconsciously deep inside, like you are 597 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: putting your mark in history. 598 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: I feel like the feeling of you know, Quentin Tarantino 599 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: yelling action on you would feel like you just got 600 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: pushed out of an airplane like that, Like the amount 601 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: of anxiety I would feel because he's the greatest and 602 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: like like you're saying a meal, it's like you've been 603 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: a fan of his work for such a long time 604 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and he's so incredible that you do. I would totally 605 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: be starstruck too, And I don't really care about anybody. 606 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: I know that both of you can relate. 607 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: Like when I call action on my set a meal, 608 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing. 609 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: You just have a like total like rush of adrenaline. 610 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: But in a way too, Like Randal, like when we 611 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: work together, I feel like because we were friends before, 612 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 5: it's so it's just there's a familiarity there. And I 613 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 5: really understand why actors work with directors over and over again, 614 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: because you know, the familiarity is great. You know, the 615 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: movie that I shot right before we started shooting our 616 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: film was this movie Some that I did with this 617 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: Irish director, Ivan Kavanaugh, and it was the second film. 618 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: It was the first time I worked with a director twice, 619 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 5: and it was like really kind of different experience of 620 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: making a movie. And I realized then for actors, just 621 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: how much of a psychological effect the director has on 622 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: all the actors. It is massive. It changes the experience. 623 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: I want to add to that. 624 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to tell you something, Meil, and 625 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: I didn't tell you that before because we were just 626 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: so caught up in the movie, in the moment and creating. 627 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: But I told my partner George, I said, you know, 628 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: I thank god you came to the table first, because 629 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: you're right, even though it was my first movie directing 630 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: and we had done many movies before this as a 631 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: producer actor relationship, you made me feel very comfortable and 632 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: I almost you know, I used you as a sounding board, 633 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: you know. I came to you many times and the 634 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: prepar you know, the pre process, and i'd get your 635 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: opinion and your advice because you are my friend and 636 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: I do trust you and I respect your work. So 637 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: when we got on set, I was probably the most 638 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: comfortable with you because I know you and I knew 639 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: that I could do things with you. And you know 640 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: what I mean, because I just have that relationship and 641 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: I agree with you. It makes sense to me now 642 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: why directors and actors stick together when they have a 643 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: good creative relationship because it is familiarity and it opens 644 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: up the creative process even more so. 645 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: I absolutely even the first day we were shooting on 646 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: midnight in the Switchcraft so our film, I was like, 647 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: I felt so relaxed, and I was like, oh man, 648 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: it was. 649 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: It was great, you know. 650 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 5: And whenever I feel like that, it just the best 651 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: always comes out of me. It's just that's just the 652 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 5: way it is. That's what Robert de Niro even said 653 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: that in an interview. He was like, the most important 654 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 5: thing for actors is to be just relaxed. You know. 655 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: I agree with you, and I'll tell you something I have. 656 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: I was the most relaxed day one. I probably would 657 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: have been like an insane asylum patient, but because you know, 658 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: I had you there on day one, it was the 659 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: same for me. I literally was like, dude, I got this. 660 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: This is my friend of mine and he's here to 661 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 3: create and I trust him and he's going to just 662 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: bring it. 663 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: And this actor director romance that you guys have it's 664 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: really sweet. I really love that. 665 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: Wait one last thing before because I want to talk 666 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: about the music. I gotta tell a story. People don't 667 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: realize that Carnies, Emil and I. It's our favorite hamburger place. 668 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: There's one on Sunset, one on Ventura. How many movies 669 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: have come out of that? When we've run into each 670 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: other at Carney's. I mean it's pretty epic. 671 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 5: I mean it's amazing. I ran into Randall. I was 672 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: eating a burger alone at Carney's and I ran into Rentald. 673 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: I was like, what's up, dude, what are you doing. 674 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 5: He's like, what's going on? Well, I just did this 675 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 5: movie with Quinn blah blah blah. And he's like, oh, 676 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: I'm making this movie with mel Gibson right now. And 677 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that sounds amazing. And then you 678 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: were like it was like a light bulb went off. 679 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, I'm gonna call your agent about it tomorrow. 680 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 5: I was like, sounds good to me, this sounds amazing. 681 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: This it is all so Hollywood. Can I tell you 682 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: this is like the shit I would imagine when I 683 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: lived in Utah, Like, I bet that's how it goes down. 684 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: I swear to you. I was eating I was by myself. 685 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I was by myself too, or maybe 686 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: I was assistant. I can't remember, but I literally Meil 687 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: said he just finished. I was like, oh my god, 688 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: we don't have a lead for this movie a Meal, 689 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: and a Meal was like, dude, send it to me. 690 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: I called this agent. I think it was like three 691 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: or four days later, a meal we were doing the deal. 692 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: It was pretty epic. 693 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so quick. I was like, man, I 694 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: was the best burger I've ever had. I love Carnie before, 695 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: but now I love Carnie. And and by the way, 696 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: like I love that movie. I watched it recently a 697 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 5: couple of times. Sports of Nature Michael Polish's movie, and 698 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 5: the part it's just it's it's such an entertaining role 699 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: is like mel is vintage mel It's like the part 700 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 5: you want to see mel in, like the leap a 701 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 5: weapon guy, like thirty five years later. 702 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: I agree. 703 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: By the way, we're having actually Michael and Kate Bosworth 704 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: on the Week after You, So that's so that's perfect segment. 705 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, okay, Meil, I have the movie. I 706 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: have seen that movie, and it's fun. I have to 707 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: ask you about your new music. I'm a music head. 708 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: Tell me everything, Yeah. 709 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: How did this start? And everything? Tell us? 710 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: Well, the music originally started. I did this movie with JK. 711 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: Simmons called All Nighter, and I played a bluegrass singer 712 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 5: and they gave me like a real band to work 713 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 5: with for a few songs. I had to sing in 714 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 5: the movie, and my buddy was I played a cover 715 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 5: song we did my brother. My buddy was like, that's cool. 716 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 5: He's like, why don't you record some originals. So I 717 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 5: started sitting down and I started like writing out melodies 718 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: and lyrics, and then I took them to the band 719 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 5: and they were like, these are cool. So we ended 720 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: up literally recording an entire bluegrass album in the genre 721 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: of the band player that I did. So it was 722 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: like some weird, like messed actor experiment where it's like 723 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 5: I made the album of the character's band and we 724 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 5: like released it. It's called the album was called Simple Things. 725 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 5: It's actually out by our band name in the movie 726 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 5: was Hysterical Kindness, and we kept that. Oh and I really, 727 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the process of songwriting so much that 728 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: I kept writing songs after the movie. And this was 729 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 5: five This was five years ago now, so I've been 730 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 5: songwriting for the last five years, and I've been working 731 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: with like different producers, and I moved on from the 732 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: guys that did hystorical kindness because they were kind of 733 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: getting into some other stuff and I worked with these 734 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: other kind of rock producers and different and then I 735 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 5: finally found this French guy and the Frenchman Matchiu Carratier, Okay, 736 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: and he he was He's like this French Urson Weld 737 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 5: kind of dude who's like so talented and kind of 738 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: very like just like a dark, like gutey voice, very 739 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 5: serious kind of guy. And he was. We had a 740 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 5: mutual friend and we made one song together and I 741 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: was like, this is kind of like a this is 742 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: an interesting sound. And we made a few songs and 743 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 5: then we finally kind of hit the vein of almost 744 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 5: like kind of like the Weekend song Blinding Lights, where 745 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 5: it's got a little like retro eighties, but it's like 746 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 5: it feels fresh and new, almost like it could be 747 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: on The Drive soundtrack or something, and we just we 748 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 5: just really we just really pushed in that direction, and 749 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 5: we worked NonStop pretty much for like almost a year, 750 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 5: and we made this album called Mnemonic, somewhat based off 751 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: the Johnny Knaemonic movie, which I thought, I just love 752 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 5: that word mnemonic and it's like device and I. 753 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, no, it's really good. And whereable where 754 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: can we download your music because I'm about to do 755 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: that as soon as we Yeah, I'm like. 756 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 5: Well, you can get it. It's basically you can get 757 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 5: it on any music platform. It's under hersh and it's 758 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 5: like Spotify or Apple Music or Google Player title or 759 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 5: Deezer or any any one of those places. Even YouTube. 760 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 5: You can hear the songs. And we've made we put 761 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 5: out now twenty two songs. We just put this song 762 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 5: out last week called Favors, which is actually probably it's 763 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 5: kind of considered by like the music people in the 764 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 5: radio world to be our best most commercial song or whatnot. 765 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 5: And it's you know what's crazy. I sent it to 766 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 5: this buddy of mine, this guy Steven Servanka, and he 767 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 5: called me back and he's in the music business and 768 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: he's like, dude, this is like it's pretty radio where 769 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: he's like, I'm going to send this to my contact 770 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 5: at Deezer Wow. And he sent it to his buddy 771 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 5: at Deezer and the guy pitched it to Deezer and 772 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 5: Deezer is like Spotify, but they're huge and like Latin 773 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: America and Yeah, France, and they put us number three 774 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 5: on their biggest playlist, which is the selection on for 775 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 5: Mexico and Central America. It's got six point seven million 776 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 5: followers of the playlist and they put his number three, dude, 777 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 5: after Fiona Apple and this amazing artist. 778 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: God. 779 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, it's crazy. 780 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: Dude, We're on not only with a movie start now 781 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 3: we have a rock star, music star. 782 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: This is we're gonna download this. 783 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: You you just start like, how long have you been 784 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: doing music? Like you said, you have twenty two songs 785 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: that you that you guys have done. When did you 786 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: do your first song? 787 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 5: The first song was the first album for uh that 788 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 5: was five years ago for the Okay movie. So we 789 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 5: recorded a whole bluegrass album. I really cut my teeth 790 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 5: on the process of songwriting and everything like that and 791 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 5: learning about it, and then I made a bunch of 792 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 5: songs with other producers in between over the years. And 793 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 5: then like a year and a half ago, me and 794 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 5: Matthew started working together and then we just kind of 795 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 5: really partnered up and made this our main jam and 796 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 5: we've been we've been making songs during quarantine. I'll like 797 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 5: send them my ideas and we'll get together and we 798 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 5: even like recorded like socially distanced, where like I bought 799 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 5: them like a forty foot microphone ports like in the 800 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 5: other wing of I'm in the other wing of the house, 801 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Yeah, so we're we're still 802 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 5: going for it. And like, for me, it's just something 803 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 5: that I love doing, and I you know, I love 804 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 5: music and it's not it's not like about like it's 805 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: definitely not about money because in order to make money 806 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 5: in the music business, Like I looked at the money 807 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 5: that we made, it was like, uve me five. 808 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: Hundred dollars exactly. 809 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 5: Like it's that it's a really tough business to like 810 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 5: make money. But for me, I just love music. And 811 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 5: there's a longevity to it too, Like you can go 812 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 5: back and listen to songs. Someone, I still listen to 813 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 5: so many old songs like forty years ago, fifty years ago. 814 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I live off of. I live off 815 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: of all of these old school songs. And I also 816 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: make music. And for me, you know, I've done the 817 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: same thing that you've done where I look at it 818 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I mean three hundred bucks this 819 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: month off that song and it's like you don't do 820 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: it for the money. It's so therapeutic and just fun 821 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: to do. 822 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: Will you ever go on tour meal? 823 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh? I like that. 824 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: I would in a heartbeat for sure. 825 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: That's dough, that's really cool. 826 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would in a heartbeat for sure. I mean, 827 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 5: we have twenty two songs. If we get like another, 828 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 5: I don't know how many, but I really want to 829 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 5: get enough to where like if we have like a 830 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 5: live performance like lineup of songs, you know, They's just 831 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 5: the thing I don't like is when there's like one 832 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 5: song everybody wants to hear, and then the rest people 833 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 5: don't know or they don't care about like I would. 834 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 5: I would really want something that like everybody dug and right. 835 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 5: You know, there's such a there's such a stigma around 836 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 5: actors that do music right. It's honestly one of people's 837 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 5: like most relish stigmas, Like they really it's like, oh actor. 838 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: Music, Well, well, musicians, as you know, historically want to 839 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: act and actors want to do music. But I will 840 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 3: tell you it's so weird to have a sting. But 841 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 3: because actors are artists and artists do everything, so I 842 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 3: think like when actors do music. 843 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty odd you grow up in the arts art. 844 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly agree with that. 845 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 5: I do think though that, you know, it did take me, 846 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 5: you know, a good five years of songwriting before we 847 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: started making songs that like we're getting on these types 848 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 5: of playlists that we're on on Spotify and Deezer in 849 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 5: all these places. So it wasn't It wasn't. It's definitely 850 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 5: not something that was like if you try to jump 851 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 5: into it and like make an album in a month 852 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 5: and do it for the first time, like I could 853 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 5: see how that could go real south, real quick, you know. 854 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 5: But I think I think because we had so much 855 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 5: time to like keep learning and listening to more music 856 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 5: and like kind of adjusting and finessing, it was I mean, 857 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 5: five years is like kind of a like I look background, 858 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, god. 859 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: That's a long time. 860 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a long time, you know what I mean? 861 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you you made something that is amazing because 862 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly those people you're talking about that push 863 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: an album out in a month and you're like, you know, 864 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: the first song you can tell how much they worked 865 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: on it, and then the rest of the songs are 866 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: like what you were talking about like they kind of 867 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: it goes south. 868 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I gotta say, first of all, we're running 869 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: out of timeer, but I gotta say something, mail anything. 870 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: To download every song. 871 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: I know you by the. 872 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 3: Way, a mail, she'll she'll know all your songs by 873 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 3: the next time we see you. But I just got 874 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: to say, I just got to say, I can't thank 875 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 3: you enough for being on our show and doing this 876 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 3: for us, and doing it under the situation that we're 877 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: all living in. You're an amazing artist, amazing performer. Your 878 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: music everybody should download it and check it out. And 879 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: h is there anything you want to say before we 880 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 3: say lovey or goodbye or all whatever you say. 881 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for thank you so much for 882 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 5: having me on. And I know it's a difficult time 883 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 5: for everybody right now, so I just want to give 884 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 5: shouts out to everyone and all the all everybody, everybody 885 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 5: keeping the world running right now. You know, I went 886 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 5: to the grocery store the other day and I was like, 887 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 5: thanking the people bagging the groceries. I was like, dude, 888 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 5: you got you guys are the heroes right now, you 889 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I just respect to everybody 890 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 5: that is keeping the world running right now, like they 891 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 5: really are the heroes. And just thanks for thanks for 892 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: having me on. Man. I I really I really appreciated 893 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 5: our relationship from the very beginning and it's a lot 894 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 5: of fun. And you guys are special people, so I 895 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 5: was super happy to come on and and you know, 896 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 5: there's nothing funner, more fun than like, uh, there's nothing 897 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 5: more fun than like a musician peddling their music. So 898 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 5: I do relish the opportunity to emil. 899 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having you. 900 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 2: Yes, it's an honor. Thank you all right, buddy, we'll 901 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: talk to you soon. 902 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 5: Thanks Hurst you guys have a great day. 903 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: Damn. 904 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: I love when our guests leave me super inspired, like 905 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: I need to go out and work a lot harder. 906 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: Now. Did he motivate you on Monday? 907 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he motivated me on Monday. Okay, so that was amazing. 908 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: You guys, I want to thank you so much for 909 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: listening to give them la la with Randall. We love 910 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: you guys. We hope you stay safe and healthy and 911 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: slay the day babies. We'll see you next week.