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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? And welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is your NFC East edition. We'll also talk the

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. But Sean, what were your

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Speaker 1: Now I was already pretty high on DJ more so

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I think, you know, over ninety percent

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Speaker 1: But what are you thinking we gallop at that spot.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. How about you, He's tightened five in

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Speaker 1: not really my my strategy to kind of dabble in

430
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: those mid tier tight ends. I really like the studs.

431
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: But if Dalton shows falls to me, I have no

432
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: problem taking him, just because my numbers kind of back

433
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: it up, and it's all about routes with tight ends.

434
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: I know he obviously doesn't have the talent is like

435
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,959
Speaker 1: some of the other guys, but he has a more

436
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: talent than I think anyone thought he did. That's for sure.

437
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and you already mentioned but Blake Jarwin's gone.

438
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: That's huge because once Jarwin missed, I think it was

439
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: the entire second half of the season, we saw Schultz

440
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: his routes run jump up to eighty five percent and

441
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: he was a tight end four over that stretch. So,

442
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 2: I mean tight end five ranking that you have him

443
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: is perfectly reasonable. It's one of those things where if

444
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: he finishes as a top three tight end, I would

445
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: not be shocked at all, and if he finishes outside

446
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: of the top ten, I wouldn't be shocked either. Like

447
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: he probably has the widest range of outcomes of any

448
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: of the tight ends in this range. So that's why,

449
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: like I said, it was fun getting him at like

450
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: tight end ten, Like I think that's closer as four.

451
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: But man, you're really having to spend up now.

452
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 2: I think the market, the market is very sharp right

453
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: now by having him that high, But it's it's just

454
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: not as fun having to take him tight end seven now.

455
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Sharp at tight end and horrible running back right and

456
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: just and these injury just happened, yeah, just all the

457
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: but uh, speaking of injury, well not even I shouldn't

458
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: say injury, it's more like injured ego, but Ezekiel Elliott.

459
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he just had it. He just wasn't himself.

460
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: I felt like last year, you know, there were reports

461
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: that he was playing with through some injuries obviously hurt.

462
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so that obviously could contribute. So I guess

463
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: you know RB eighteen, I mean there was most every

464
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: almost every other year of Zeke's career. I mean you'd

465
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: be salivating to get him at RB eighteen, and now

466
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: I feel like he's just not really being talked to about.

467
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: He's just kind of there, like he's not really being

468
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: talked about. I don't know, I mean, I don't mind

469
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: him there actually, like I feel like I feel like

470
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: the injury contributed a lot. I feel like the old

471
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: line is still gonna be good. The offense is gonna

472
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: be good. Pollard. Yes, he's gonna get uh you know,

473
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna spell Zee quite a bit. But Poward could

474
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: do other things. You know, he can play out of

475
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: the slot. They sometimes use them at the same time.

476
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: So I like by kind of buying the dip on Zeke,

477
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a much more reasonable

478
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: price to do it than like, you know, Saquon last year,

479
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: where you were already paying like first round almost first

480
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: round prices for him. Oh. Absolutely.

481
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm probably gonna have a ton of Tony

482
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: Pollard chairs. So I wouldn't mind if Tony and Peller

483
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: like leap Prognum in the starter, but I'm realistic that's

484
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: probably not gonna happen. They're paying Zeke way too much money,

485
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: so I agree, especially this range, like in years past,

486
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: this is the frozen pond zone.

487
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, wasn't like Mike Davis and Miles Gaskin.

488
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: Going in this range last year where it's like yeah, yeah,

489
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: but it's like similar and we have Zeke and James

490
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Connor got like, I love this range just the fact

491
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: that we can get Zeke on the cheap. You know,

492
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: he played through that PCL injury last year, so I'm

493
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 2: willing to forgive him for that. The days of him

494
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: being a top five option are probably over at this point,

495
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: but certainly like he's gonna outperform AVP if he just plays,

496
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, every game. So I kind of like the

497
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: idea of yeah, get it Zeke as a low end

498
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: RB two. Ay kidding me, but like I said, I'm

499
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: gonna have so many shares of Tony Pollard, I wouldn't

500
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: mind if Pollard eventually passes him up.

501
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it looked like it was kind

502
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: of happening last year, but you know, obviously, like I said,

503
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: I think the injury had more to do with that.

504
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, they like they love Zeke and Dallis,

505
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: so it's like they're gonna feed this man in the

506
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: rock if he's if he's good to go. So yeah,

507
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: I'm buying a dip on on on Zeke. Let's uh,

508
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: let's talk sleepers and busts for the Cowboys. We got, Oh,

509
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: my sleeper's got to be Tony and Pollard.

510
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: His ADP is a joke because, like I said, even

511
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: if Zeke stays healthy all season long, I think he's

512
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: gonna easily beat this ADP, and then he has top

513
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: five upside if and when Zeke word ever missed time.

514
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: So Tony Pollard is absolutely my favorite sleeper on this team.

515
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I'm gonna go with uh with Tolbert

516
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: just because I mean, I like power too, but I

517
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, Tolbert's pretty much free in

518
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of weeks, and he could end up being

519
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: the number you know, two or three wide receiver on

520
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: this team for the duration of the season. So I

521
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: think there's some value there. What about bus no one? Really?

522
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is like the perfect fantasy

523
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: football offense.

524
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: Maybe DAK just because you can get Jalen Hurts or

525
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Tony tom Brady right behind him. But you know, like

526
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: that's the reason why we want to invest in this team.

527
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: So I just think based on ADP, maybe DAK just

528
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: because of the opportunity cost.

529
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go gallup just because I can't get

530
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: to that ADP unless I project him for you know,

531
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: close to fifteen about fifteen games, which I just I

532
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's realistic. So yeah, it's gout for me.

533
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: Let's jump to the egos. This is a team I've

534
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: been excited to talk about. I think it's you know,

535
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: they did a lot of good things last year, but

536
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: it's still I guess the question now and you know

537
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: obviously had a good offseason getting a J. Brown. So

538
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the question now is, you know, how much do they

539
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: owe in his offense up do you think in a

540
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: year two, you know, a year two of this regime

541
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: now with another top tier receiver to go along with

542
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith, Yeah, hopefully they open it up a lot.

543
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: But either way, Jalen Hurts, it would not surprise me

544
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: if he's the QB one overall this year. I think

545
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: anyone not named Josh Allen, I think Jalen Hurts has

546
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: the best odds to be the overall QB one, just

547
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, just looking at last year when he didn't

548
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: have AJ Brown. He finishes a top twelve quarterback seventy

549
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: three percent of the time, which is the highest rate

550
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: at the position. So adding a guy like AJ Brown

551
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: is just a massive boost to him when he was

552
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: already really good. In terms of fantasy I should say

553
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: he has one of the best offensive lines. So you know,

554
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: the sky's the limit with Hurts. So that's why I

555
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: was saying when I was talking about Dak, you know,

556
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: when you're taking Dak, Jalen Hurts is still on the board,

557
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: and that's that's an issue with me.

558
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: I think where Hurts is going.

559
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: He also allows you to draft you know, a couple

560
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: of running backs, wide receiver, maybe a tight end. He

561
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: just allows you to really build around, you know, potentially

562
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: the top quarterback in fans football. So Jalen Hurts is

563
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: part of my overall draft strategy this year for sure.

564
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love me some Jalen Hurts, and I like

565
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: that call to potential number one overall because that's what

566
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: you're kind of looking for like every year. So like

567
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: a couple of these quarterbacks go off and then they

568
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: get taken in like the third, second, third, fourth round,

569
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: and then some other quarterbacks you know, go off the

570
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: next year, whether it's because of injury, just to bounce back,

571
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, emerging, whatever it might be So I think

572
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: Hurts is now, like you, you don't want to. I mean,

573
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with taking Josh Allen, don't get me wrong,

574
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: But what you're trying to do is find you know,

575
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: another guy that's going to kind of be able to

576
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: give you that same production at a cheaper cost. Yep.

577
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And I think Hurts, like you said, is a prime candidate,

578
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: so love it. I do think they'll you know, they

579
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: only threw the like had to drop back on. I

580
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: think it was like fifty five percent of their plays

581
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, I do think that's going to inch,

582
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, a little closer to sixty this year. So

583
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: which which you know with dead.

584
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean we also we all we don't mind Jalen Hurts,

585
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: you know, design run plays, which is part of those

586
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: non dropbacks. You know, Like either way, Hurts is going

587
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: to be, you know, the main cognist offense, like he's

588
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: with his arm and his legs. So yeah, I mean

589
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: this has the potential of being sort of a twenty

590
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: nineteen Lamar Jackson if they do unleash him in the

591
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: passing game.

592
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got better receivers than twenty nineteens Jamar

593
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: Jackson a J. Brown. He is going as the number

594
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: eleven wide receiver. I actually have a wide receiver twelve.

595
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be a little lower

596
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: on him, but he's still popping in my wide receiver twelve.

597
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: So I know you were kind of a little bit

598
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: concerned just because of you know him, him and DeVante

599
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: and kind of cancel each other out a bit. But

600
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: where are you in that? Yeah?

601
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean obviously he's a top ten, maybe top five talent,

602
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: and he's going from you know, a run heavy offense

603
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: from the Titans to and even more run of the offense.

604
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: But like we said, maybe they open it up a bit.

605
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: That's where AJ Brown would hit at ADP if if

606
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: they do throw a bit more. But he's probably just

607
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: a bit too expensive at wide receiver ten looks like

608
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: his ADP is. So I think the best way to

609
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: invest in him is through Jalen Hurts. Like, by drafting

610
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, you're getting AJ Brown as well, and Devonte

611
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: Smith and you know Dallas call god her. So I

612
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: just think that the way to invest in Brown is

613
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: through Hurts. I think you're you're spending up quite a

614
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: bit to get Brown when it's a situation that's sort

615
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: of unknown. But you know, he's one of those guys

616
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: where not shocked me if he finished his top five,

617
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: but he's gonna have to do it on even fewer

618
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: targets I think this year.

619
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like when it first happened, I was

620
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: a little bit lower, but after like I'm looking at

621
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: the numbers more and more. Like one of the things

622
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know we like to look at that's

623
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: very predictive is targets per route run. Yeah, and A. J.

624
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: Brown was near the top of the league at twenty

625
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: nine percent, and that's I've I've bumped it down to

626
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: twenty five percent. You know, obviously some regression and he's

627
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: still my wide receiver twelve. So you know, he I

628
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to be able to kind of you know,

629
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: that's just something you want to see, like when when

630
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: he's on a field, he's getting the ball, he's and

631
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: so uh and they didn't they didn't, you know, go

632
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: out and get him for no reason. So I think

633
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: I think he's he'll be fine. Like I think even

634
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: if he doesn't hit like you know, wide receiver ten,

635
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I think his floor is still pretty high. Like I

636
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to finish outside the top like

637
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: twenty or something like that.

638
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: I got to know.

639
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: I think he'll be in there one way or another,

640
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't mind him. I have him again.

641
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: I have him wide receiver twelve. So if he's if

642
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: he's on the board when i'm picking, you know, what

643
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: is it, second round, third round, I'm taking yeah, yeah,

644
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: stack him with Hurts.

645
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: And I think like earlier in the offseason, like after

646
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: the trade happened, he was somewhere like wide receiver six

647
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: or seven.

648
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's when I was kind of often.

649
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: But now that he's creeping towards wide receiver twelve, I

650
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: think that that is the range. I'm okay drafting him.

651
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith. Actually, that's like it's tough for me with

652
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: him because he's the guy that I think gets knocked them,

653
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: at least in my model, he gets knocked the most

654
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: with this. You know, we talked about it with Tyreek Kohen.

655
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: When a receiver comes and his lands at the top

656
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: of the totem pole in terms of like the targets

657
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: per route, that's going to hurt the guys under him.

658
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: And you know, Smith in year one was targeted on

659
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: nineteen point five percent of his route, so you'd write

660
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: that a little higher for number one receiver. Obviously he's

661
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: a number two now, so I did bump him up,

662
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: you know that kind of year two weap to twenty

663
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: one percent, but he's still he's still in that in

664
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: the forties for me at wide receiver, he's going as

665
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirty four. So I don't know where are

666
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: you on on Devonte. Yeah, I'm right in.

667
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Line with ADP and I think he's probably going to

668
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: be a little bit more inconsistent. Like you said, AJ

669
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Brown is going to eat into his target shirt considerably,

670
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: but you know he has big play upside. It's you know,

671
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: he's going to be going up against number two corners

672
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: now and defenses have to you know, try to slot

673
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: on AJ Brown so he could get loose for some

674
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: you know, a long touchdown. So I think DeVante Smith

675
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: would probably a guy in best ball I would probably target.

676
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Like I said, like, he might be a little bit

677
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: more inconsistent, but he's gonna have some spiked week so

678
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: I still like him.

679
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: He's entering year two. You mentioned it. I think it

680
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: was our last pot.

681
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: How year two is sort of the year, we're seeing

682
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: these talented wide receivers breakout.

683
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: So I loved what I saw his rookie season.

684
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: So if if he gets even better this season again,

685
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons why I like Gellen

686
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Hurts really because it doesn't matter if you take Hurts,

687
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: like you know, two of these guys go if and

688
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: again week it doesn't matter. You're gonna get all the

689
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: production with Hurts. But like I said, I think DeVante

690
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: Smith is more of a best ball target for me.

691
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: What about Goddter?

692
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: You know, we just talked about don't show set tight

693
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: end seven. Gotter is the tight end eight, so he's

694
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: one spot lower. Where are you want him? Oh? I

695
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: love it.

696
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: This is the first season we're heading into where there's

697
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: no zach Ertz, and we saw that last year. He

698
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: was the tight end five from week seven on after

699
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Ertz got traded the Cardinals. So I've always considered him

700
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: to be a top five, you know, potential tight end

701
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: without zach Ertz there. However, I do think you mentioned,

702
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: you know, DeVante Smith takes the biggest hit. I think

703
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Goddard definitely takes a hit in terms of you know,

704
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: target share. So He's down to tight end eight for me,

705
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: which is in line with ADP and when we were

706
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: talking about like lower tight end one range, you can

707
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: live with some inconsistency. So I still love got her

708
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: tight end eight.

709
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he It's interesting because he actually on a

710
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: per route basis, he was targeted more than Smith last year.

711
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: He was twenty point three percent to nineteen point five

712
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: percent Smith. So yeah, I think that's why my mom

713
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: was a little lower on Smith compared to Goddard.

714
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: I have I have got it tight end eight too,

715
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: So and how many routes run to you? I mean,

716
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: he has zero competition. The tight end depth chart is

717
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: kind of a joke there.

718
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: Now I have him up to eighty four. He averaged

719
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: seventy eight percent last year, so I bumped I think

720
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I used to after ERT's left. I used that that

721
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: for the sample size. So yeah, what oh eighty five percent?

722
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, the right line. Okay, let's talk Miles Sanders.

723
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: He he wants more opportunities Squeaky wheel RB twenty eight.

724
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is that that's kind of frozen Pond esque?

725
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Any love for Sanders is here? Yeah, that that's a

726
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: good thing. With the running back position.

727
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: We're we're you know, the frozen pond tiers and the

728
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: range where it's okay, they're not going to kill you

729
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: if they bust. So I'm okay drafting him at RB

730
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight. I just don't think he has as much

731
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: upside as people think. They're they're going to have a

732
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: committee no matter what. You know, they're going to mix

733
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: in gain well even Boston Scott and Jalen Hurts is

734
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: howking a ton of you know carries as well. So

735
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: oh man, Yeah, Sanders love, love the talent, love the upside,

736
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: but just the fact that you can't bank on receiving

737
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: and he had zero touchdowns last year. Obviously that's going

738
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: to go up. But he's, you know, he's a five

739
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: to six touchdown kind of guy. So if if you're

740
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: taking some big swings at running back or something like that,

741
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: I think Sanders offers a high floor. But it's hard

742
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: to you know, get too excited about him at RB

743
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: twenty eight.

744
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: How about you? Yeah, I think it's it's right in line.

745
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: It's not not a guy I would prefer taking, just because,

746
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: like you said, there there's a lot of question marks

747
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: with the touchdown scoring and you know, will he get.

748
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: He got ten carries inside the ten, so I think

749
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: he is due for some impression. But you know, snap wise,

750
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: he just wasn't really consistently getting a ton of snaps.

751
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: He only topped seventy percent twice all year and snap.

752
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: So Jordan Howard is not on the roster as of now.

753
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they bring him back, maybe they bring

754
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: somebody out right, but they might run less gain well,

755
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: I think it takes some passing down snaps, So it's

756
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: not really a sexy pick. You're really going to be

757
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: relying on standards to you know, have some of his

758
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: patented you know, big big runs and actually find the

759
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: end zone if not asking a lot. Yeah, it's it's

760
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like what if so, like you know,

761
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: things that need to happen. But I mean I do,

762
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: like you said, Jalen Hurts and this offense. I do

763
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: want to invest in this offense. So I think bestball

764
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: stacks is probably where I'll be attacking it. But I'm

765
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: not feeling great about Sanders, especially if he has to

766
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: be my RB two in like a season lot. Oh yeah,

767
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: even if he yeah, and he's your flex, he's still

768
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna probably not be quite consistent enough to feel even

769
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: great about that. So, yeah, he's kind of a no

770
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: man's lay.

771
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: Well, he's in the range where I like to get

772
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: one or all three of these guys, you know, AJ Dillon,

773
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt, Tony Pollard. He's going in that range where

774
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: maybe week one he's ranked higher than all three of them,

775
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: but he just doesn't carry you know, top five, top

776
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: ten sort of upside. So that's why I like to

777
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: have one of those guys or two of those guys

778
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: to start filling on my bench or even like my

779
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: RB three flex.

780
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about any any for game. Well, you're entering

781
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: year two. You think he's at RB fifty, so he

782
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: is being drafted by quite a few people at the

783
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: end of their bench, and you think he's gonna get

784
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: enough of a workload at any point to be relevant

785
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: or he's just kind of keep doing what he's.

786
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: Doing, just keep doing what he's doing, which isn't too much.

787
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's going to be their main pass

788
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: catching back. But you know, when you have a quarterback

789
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: like Hurts that prefers to just you know, pull it

790
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: down and run, that's not a really good role to

791
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: have in this backfield that's already pretty murky, and you know,

792
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: it seemed like the coaching staff kind of soured on

793
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: last year. They didn't trust him pully handle bigger workloads

794
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: when you know Sanders or even Scott went down. They

795
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: had him splitting time with Jason Huntley that one week.

796
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: So I just he doesn't really possess the upside I

797
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: like in backups in this range.

798
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: He might be, you know, a cheaper version of like

799
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: a J. D. Mckisswick.

800
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: But I just don't really see the upside in him,

801
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: even though he is pretty cheap at RB fifty.

802
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. I don't know why exactly they lost

803
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: confidence in it because I'm looking, he didn't he was

804
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: solid in past protection, he didn't anything. So yeah, it

805
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: was kind of odd. We thought he might, you know,

806
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: be more involved as a season progress, and it kind

807
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: of it was just kind of hit or miss. So

808
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: maybe Boston Scott is actually, yeah, the guy, the guy.

809
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: Every year every year we arrive on that. Maybe Boston

810
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 2: Scott's the the you know, the best value of the three.

811
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: All right, we got four sleeper.

812
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: It's got to be Jaialen Hurts. Even though you know

813
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: his ADP is sort of in line with me. That's

814
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: sort of the quarterback position is on point, I think

815
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: in terms of ranking, but just where he goes in

816
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: the draft and the upside he has, it's got to

817
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: be Jailen Hurts.

818
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I do love you know, a J.

819
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard. Uh, they're kind of tough

820
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: sells at ADP. But like I said, you kind of

821
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: get all three when you draft Dalen Hurts. So Hurts

822
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: is my sleeper for sure.

823
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, same same here. What about Buss oh Man?

824
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Maybe AJ Brown just because he's a little rich, but

825
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: now that his ADP is dropping to the you know,

826
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: the wide receiver ten twelve range, I do like him

827
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: a bit more. But I love everybody in this offense,

828
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: I guess ADP. So the one that's you know, probably

829
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: the toughest self for me is a J. Brown, even

830
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: though you know, I think he's a top five talent.

831
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with I'll actually go with Gainwell. I

832
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: don't I don't like this, you know, this three three

833
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: way committee where Gainwell might be the third and he's

834
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: going RB fifty, which is you know RB five is

835
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: still you're gonna have to. You're probably gonna have to

836
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: use your RB five at some point. Just give him

837
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: the injuries and whatnot. So I just like somebody with

838
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more upside in that range. So yeah,

839
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Gaine Gainwell hits that ADP. Yeah, that's

840
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: a good call. I would agree with that.

841
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not gonna kill you if you bust there,

842
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: but you're you're passing up on guys with more upset

843
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: in that range.

844
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: For sure. I would go to the Washington Commanders. Carson

845
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: Wentz is now the quarterback there. We got Terry McLaurin

846
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: just read up on a deal. Nobody's really drafted went

847
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: He's going as QB twenty five. But Terry McLaurin wide

848
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: receiver seventeen. I like me some Terry. I think he's

849
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: a talented guy. I mean, you know, the only question

850
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: is do you think you know Washington did draft Brian

851
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Robinson junior. Do you think they go like super run

852
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: heavy with Wentz as the quarterback. I mean, it sounds

853
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: crazy because they didn't have a quarterback before, but I

854
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: feel like that that's kind of the offense, that's kind

855
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: of what they did in Indianapolis. Last year to kind

856
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: of hide him. Do you think they're gonna have to

857
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: do that here as well?

858
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that for sure, and that that

859
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: would make a ton of sense that they would target

860
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: a back like Robinson the third ground when they already

861
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: have Antonio Gibson. So yeah, I think that they'll they'll

862
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: kind of learn from Indy last year and just kind

863
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: of run it as much as possible, because you don't

864
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: want Wentz, you know, to you know, have a horendous

865
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: turnover or something like that.

866
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: But I think Wentz, you know, he gets he got

867
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: shipped on a little bit too much.

868
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: He is certainly an upgrade from what Washington has had

869
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: at quarterback the past several seasons. So while I'm not

870
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: targeting Wentz necessarily, I think he does help boost everyone

871
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: in this offense just a little bit. Yeah.

872
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't trust I don't trust the guy.

873
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: I know.

874
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: I just don't trust him, man. I mean, he hasn't

875
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: done anything to prove, like even last year when he

876
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: had like the fakest good, good looking statistical season ever,

877
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Like he didn't throw them any picks, but he threw

878
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: him at the physics. Don't lie man, Yeah, I mean, no,

879
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: but I mean he all his picks came up like

880
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: the most inopportune times. They were like one handed passes

881
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: to like the defensive lineman in his own end zone.

882
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: And and then all those good stats couldn't buy him

883
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: a win to get into the playoffs against the worst

884
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: team in the week. So it's like this, dude, I

885
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: just I think things and Washington is not an easy

886
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: place to play, so if things go bad, yeah, it's

887
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: it's not going to be good for this man. Like

888
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: I obviously wish him well, but he's got to show

889
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: me something. So yeah, I'm down on him, which means

890
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of down on the offense.

891
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: I like, yeah, do you think he's like gonna get

892
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: a boost for once at all? Just based on who

893
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: he's had throwing to him the past several, you know,

894
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: his first few years in his career.

895
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't really, No, I just don't think Wentz is

896
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: that much better than these Taylor Heineke's and Alex Smith's

897
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: of the world. Like I just, well, I don't. I mean,

898
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: he's a tiny bit better. And maybe he thought I'll

899
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: give him this, he probably he'll probably throw it a

900
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: little bit more accurate of a deep ball, but I

901
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: mean that wasn't exactly Terry mclaurin's problem to you know,

902
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: like Terry mccorm is already making crazy adjustment. Yeah, so

903
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: it just makes his life easier without necessarily boosting his

904
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: stat Well, everything was Terry mccorurin's problem, but it wasn't

905
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: his fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I meant last year. Yeah,

906
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: I agree.

907
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is he's pretty accurate downfield on past attempts

908
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: down you know, twenty plus yard downfield. Last year, he

909
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: was third in QB rating and fourth in catchable targets

910
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: at seventy six percent. And Terry McLaurin is a downfield threat.

911
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Only fourteen of his twenty nine targets were catched last

912
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: year forty eight percent. So if he can come anywhere

913
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: close to that seventy five percent rate that you know

914
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: Wentz had last year, that's going to be massive for

915
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: mccorn's upside, So that.

916
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: We all know is there.

917
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: So I I do think this is a slight boost

918
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: to Terry mccorn. I'm not saying Carson Wentz is good,

919
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: but he is an upgrade from you know who has

920
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: been throwing the baal to mccorn.

921
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Uh, do you like the rookie John Dodson at all?

922
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Going seventy one?

923
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: He's got to be the cheapest of all the first

924
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: round wide receivers, right for good reason.

925
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they're there.

926
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: It's going to be tough to project too many targets

927
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: because Curtis Samuel is coming back. He commanded a pretty

928
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: high target Curtis Samuel Ever heard of it? Oh, he's

929
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: twenty one point six percent targets per route run last year.

930
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean he was barely playing.

931
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Curtis Samy doesn't exist at this point, Like

932
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: he's just he's at a figment of our imaginations.

933
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, I agree, But that that's why I

934
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: do like Dotson, just because you can get him cheap.

935
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: You know, the Commanders like him. They took him sixteenth overall,

936
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: which I thought was a bit too high. He was certainly,

937
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: you know, probably gonna go at the end of the

938
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: first round or early second. I think he has like

939
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: a Tyler Lockett kind of upside to him.

940
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: So I like him.

941
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: But this is where I would say it sucks having

942
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is your quarterback. I don't think he can

943
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: really support more than one or two fancy options a week,

944
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: so Dustin's upside is limited. But just where he's going

945
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: at wide receiver seventy three, Like I'm absolutely gonna have

946
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: some shares with him.

947
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. I like it there. I mean, listen,

948
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: we say this every year, is there's certain rookies that

949
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: you want to invest in, and it's usually first round

950
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: and second round picks. And you know, obviously Dodson has

951
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: probably the least ideal you could say, landing spot of

952
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: any of these first round picks. Yeah, but like there's

953
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: still numbers to back up. You know, first round wide

954
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: receivers you're gonna get usually fifty percent of those are

955
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: going to hate and be fantasy starters. So you know

956
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: there's only what five or six of them, and one

957
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: of them, Dotson is going wide receiver seventy one. So yeah,

958
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like you. I'll have I'll have twenty of

959
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: years of him, Samuel. I mean, he's one of these

960
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: guys where I don't like to like change the games

961
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: played projections for anyone, but I almost feel like him,

962
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: you kind of have to. You did you did not

963
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I did it. I didn't touch it. Okay, I liked

964
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: him at sixteen. But I'm saying, like, I don't. I

965
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: don't feel like he's gonna play sixteen games.

966
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: He entered the season hurt, right, I just think, yep,

967
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm willing. You don't draft those guys right exactly that.

968
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the point we try to make. We

969
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: don't try to predict injury, but if they're injured heading

970
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: into the season, like you have to dock them for that. So, uh,

971
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: like last season, I kind of wrote him off before

972
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: it even started.

973
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: But he should be one hundred percent going in this season.

974
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: So I think it's I think it's unfair, let's put

975
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: it that way, to really assume that he's injury proNT

976
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: at this point. He just had one season where he was,

977
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, severely injury prone. But you know, I have

978
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: faith that he'll be able to play over fifteen games

979
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: this year.

980
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's already missing practices and I don't

981
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: know he is it all back then it's like no,

982
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like it's like it's like mysteriously

983
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: because they're like, we're being cautious with him reps. Yeah,

984
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: it sounds just doesn't I don't think they went they

985
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: go that hard at Dotson. If they have true, like

986
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: the least bit of confidence in Curtis Samuel, I think

987
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: they would love for him to be like there, you know,

988
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: their number three receiver. I think I think Dotson is

989
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: going to get on the field a lot. So yeah,

990
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: he's the guy I would target. Their depth chart got

991
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: finned out a little bit, right. They had you know,

992
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: Adam Humphries and DeAndre Carter loved DeAndre Carter. They're both gone,

993
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: so they I mean, they just want another slot guy

994
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: and Curtis Samuel you can move around the formation. I think, yeah,

995
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Samuel and Dotson's skills sort of overlap of it. But

996
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: it sounds like Dotson will be the main slot guy

997
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: and then Samuel. They'll just kind of move around. I think.

998
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 2: So, I think, you know, one of those guys every

999
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: week will probably you know, put up a decent score.

1000
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: I just don't know which one.

1001
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: But just considering they're both going in the same spot,

1002
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: you would say like Dotson certainly has the highest ceiling, right.

1003
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, I'm I'm off. I mean, Samuel's

1004
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: going six spots after Dotson. I just I just don't

1005
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: see it for him. I don't think I don't think they.

1006
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I think we're at a point, like if we're already

1007
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: managing his reps in June and July, I just think

1008
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: we're at a point where they feel like they have

1009
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: to play Samuel like on staff count like periods. I mean,

1010
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I could be wrong about that, but he also struggled

1011
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: at times even you know, on the field, he's been

1012
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: an inconsistent pro. So I think this is just a

1013
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: great opportunity for Dotson to like establish himself as the

1014
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: number two. Yeah, in this offense, you know, Logan Thomas

1015
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: coming off the injuries, going to tight end twenty you know,

1016
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you don't think he's gonna get back to

1017
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: like his pre injury heights, right, I think they like

1018
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, some of the depth got there

1019
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: with John Bates. With you, John Bates, I think back

1020
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: there in a little more than than that year when

1021
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Thomas was what was it twenty twenty, when he was

1022
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: running a route on like ninety percent. Yeah, No, I

1023
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: mean this offense.

1024
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Sort of whoever is the starting tight end will run

1025
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: over ninety percent routes run, right, We've figured that out

1026
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: by now. So Yeah, I'm not in on Logan Thomas.

1027
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: We have to remember he was a late bloomer, so

1028
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: he's already thirty one. He's coming off of ACL MCL

1029
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: and meniscus tears, so that's yeah, that's brutal.

1030
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: He might not be ready for week one.

1031
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm seeing, you know, he might begin the season on

1032
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: the ir So I'm often at, you know, tight end

1033
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: twenty when you have guys like Irvsmith, Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett,

1034
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: even Hayden Hurst going in that range. So yeah, John

1035
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: Bates would be interesting early in the season. I guess

1036
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: like the scott Fish Bowl where you draft like a

1037
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: dozen tight ends, John Bates could be the starting tight

1038
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: end week one. And like I said, last year, they

1039
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: had you know, Ricky Steels, Jones running a ton of routes,

1040
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: John Baits whoever was starting. So I think that Bates

1041
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: early in the season, could you like a low end

1042
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: tight end two? Yeah, definitely, And they uh they.

1043
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Did, they did convert Antonio Gandy Golden to uh tight ends.

1044
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: Now maybe he's in the mix. Yeah, all these big receivers,

1045
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: that's that's the new thing. Devin fun Nikhil Harry's next, Yeah,

1046
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: arthe white Side Harry would be awesome. Yeah, let's start

1047
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: about Antonio Gibson because this Robinson junior draft pick combined

1048
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: with the fact that you already have a a chistic,

1049
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: so you're already kind of get there's gonna be snaps

1050
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: allocated to a chistic just in the natural game plan.

1051
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: And then now you get this Robinson kid who they

1052
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: was it was it a day two pick on him?

1053
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Round three? Yeah, yeah, day two pick, and uh, you know,

1054
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: running back sixteen for Gibson, I think I think there's

1055
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of danger he doesn't hit that because

1056
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: I think they do want to manage his reps a

1057
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: little as he If you look at the numbers as

1058
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: his workload went up, you know, the efficiency kind of

1059
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: went down last year and that you could see that

1060
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: in his yards per carry, his yards after contact. So

1061
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: so I think I think he actually is going to

1062
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: not see the same workload. I think they're going to

1063
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: kind of bring it down a little bit. But what

1064
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: about shoot, what do you think? Oh? Yeah, I think

1065
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. And it's frustrating because I love Gibson.

1066
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Just having JD.

1067
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: Mcizick around his frustrating because Gibson, he was a former

1068
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: wide receiver, so he would obviously be a great pass

1069
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: catching back, but they kind of limit him there because

1070
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: of mcizick and then drafting Brian Robinson. You know, he

1071
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: could be their goal line back. So we're talking about

1072
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: a guy that's now sandwiched between two valuable roles. So

1073
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's really hard to draft Gibson at RB fifteen.

1074
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: I do think he has top ten sort of upside,

1075
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: like he could handle it. And you mentioned last year

1076
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: when his workload went up, his efficiency went down. He

1077
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: was playing through some really nasty injuries, so he was

1078
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: he proved that he could be a workhorse back because

1079
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: he was still running twenty twenty five times a game

1080
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: and you know, having once because it went down.

1081
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: He was on the field for passing downs. He was

1082
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: playing through injury.

1083
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: So I think he can be a work course back,

1084
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: but just the sign is clear that they do want

1085
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: to limit his workload by drafting a guy like Brian Robinson,

1086
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: and I'm afraid that, yeah, he might sneak in a

1087
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: couple of goal one touchdowns. So uh, you know, Gibson

1088
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: sort of a frozen pond guy right in the RB

1089
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: fifteen range. So I'm passing up on him, especially when

1090
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: you have you know, Zeke and James Connor going behind

1091
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: him where their roles are a little bit more defined.

1092
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: Gibson's a tough sell at ADP. Yeah, I don't know

1093
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: what what's up with the James Connor ADP. Like I

1094
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: James Connor is a top ten running back and yeah,

1095
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: like being drafted as such. So I don't like this

1096
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: is the second time you mentioned it. The first I

1097
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: was gonna let it go, but I'm like, man, I

1098
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: got I got it pumped up on some James Connor

1099
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: like suggestions. Yeah, it's like nobody behind him, Chase Samons

1100
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: has gone. It's like, you don't Gibson yet get but

1101
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: back to give. I totally agree. He does worry me,

1102
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, two hundred and six touches

1103
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: as a rookie five point one yards per touch, three

1104
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: hundred touches in year two, and he goes down to

1105
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: four point four yards per touch, Like I think I

1106
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: think they looked at that and said, it's kind of

1107
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: split the difference. Try to get like two fifty or so.

1108
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: I think that would be a little bit kind of

1109
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: more in his wheelhouse. Robinson, I think is an interesting

1110
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: kind of flyer, you know, like to take these rookie

1111
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: running backs just see what happens. I think, you know,

1112
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: if Gibson does go down, I think he you know,

1113
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: he'd be in at Gibson roll and maybe even more,

1114
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: and then you're never gonna have that full full workload

1115
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: with Machissic there. But I've been drafting some Robinson, especially

1116
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: in bastball. Yeah. Yeah, he's a pretty cheap handcuff.

1117
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: He's not going to be playing on receiving downs much

1118
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: at all if Gibson were to go down. But like

1119
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: you said that, they might be a run heavy team

1120
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: to kind of limit once anyway, So there might be

1121
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: enough there where if Gibson goes down, Robinson would be

1122
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, an RB three flex. I don't think, you know,

1123
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: he can really get to RB two range if he's

1124
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: not in on passing downs, but certainly you know at

1125
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: RB sixty six he's pretty much free at that point.

1126
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: So if you're drafting Gibson, maybe you know, have Robinson

1127
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: there for insurance. All's who's a sleeper on the commanders. Oh,

1128
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: it's got to be Dotson. I just think the fact

1129
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: that he's the cheapest of the first round wide receivers

1130
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: and he's I guess one Curtis Samuel injury away from

1131
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: being a potential wide receiver three or four kind of guy.

1132
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: He's got to be the sleeper from this team.

1133
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think from week one

1134
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: he could just win that like that job of being

1135
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: like kind of the second most targeted. So yeah, I

1136
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: don't even think it matters same. I mean, I think

1137
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: if healthy, I think they'd like to have Samuel starting

1138
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: alongside mclarine and Dotson. So Dotson should be in there

1139
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: like regardless unless they're going and like like you said,

1140
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: Thomas is going to be hurt to start season, we

1141
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of two tight ends. So yeah,

1142
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: I love Dodson at that price and Robinson as well,

1143
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: but I still I would go Dotson over him. In

1144
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: terms of just my favorite sleeper bust, it's got to

1145
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: be Antonio Gibson.

1146
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Just both players sort of tap his upside, which is

1147
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: really frustrating because we saw last year Gibson was the

1148
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: RB ten, so he clearly has top ten potential, but

1149
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: just heading into the season like he's gonna need one

1150
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: or both of these guys to go down to really hit,

1151
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: and he was actually the.

1152
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: RB eighteen and half PPR points per game last year,

1153
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: and that was with Machistic missing like five games, right

1154
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: the games. Yeah, he's he's already kind of being drafted

1155
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: above where he was at last year. I know that,

1156
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, other things are going to factor. It's just

1157
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: for kind of a point of reference. Yeah. Yeah, Gibson

1158
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: not my I love the guy, loved the talent, right, Yeah,

1159
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: it was the time to draft him was when we

1160
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: were talking about him, when he was like battling Adrian

1161
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: Peterson and all those other guy his rookie year.

1162
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: Now it's like all right, Darisice like yeah, yeah, jesus, yeah.

1163
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: Wow, we've cut I remember saying that. So I was like,

1164
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: watch it be like Gibson and the Chissic and it

1165
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: ended up being the guys you never expect. But uh yeah,

1166
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: So that's why we're watching out for Robinson this year.

1167
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: All let's finish up with the Giants favorite team. Yeah, unfortunately,

1168
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I mean, he's he's a QB twenty eight.

1169
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: I think if he's starting, I'd probably have him ranked

1170
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: higher than that on a weekly basis. Just the question

1171
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: is does he maintain the starting job all year long?

1172
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: Like how many games are you projecting Jones? Are you

1173
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: projecting them like the full sixteen? Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1174
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he? I see, like the ADP has to

1175
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: be a bug? Right, how is he QB twenty eight

1176
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: Because I think.

1177
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: That's what it is. I think people are factoring that

1178
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: he may lose the job. I mean, you know, new

1179
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: regime obviously no ties to him. I wouldn't say it's

1180
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: sad the question I do, like, I mean, I think

1181
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: I like the pieces around him more than I have

1182
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: in his other years. I mean, the old line should

1183
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: be better. He's gonna lose the job to Tyrod Taylor.

1184
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Doesn't Tyrod Taylor make every quarterback that plays with them

1185
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: instant superstar? That is true? Oh my god?

1186
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: Now he even Davis Mills last year, right like yeah, yeah,

1187
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: so I thought about that. Yeah, So no sign me

1188
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: up for Daniel Jones at QB twenty eight. I'm joking obviously,

1189
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: that's not like say what you want about Daniel Jones.

1190
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: He's not a great quarterback, but he has you know,

1191
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: massive rushing upside and Brian Dable, you know, like he

1192
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: can't can't take all the credit for Josh Allen, but

1193
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: it wasn't until he showed up. And Allen's here two

1194
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: where he blew up. So not that Josh Allen or

1195
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: not that Daniel Jones is anywhere near the talent of

1196
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: a Josh Allen, but I think that just a new scheme,

1197
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: a new regime could help, you know, unlock Daniel Jones.

1198
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: I think he does have the upside, and he's always

1199
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, his pass catchers are always missing time. I

1200
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: feel like he's never had all of his pass catchers

1201
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: healthy at any given time. So I'm still you know,

1202
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: buying in on Daniel Jones, especially like QB twenty eight

1203
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: probably you know, like a beastball format.

1204
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: I think he certainly has you know, high end QB

1205
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: two sort of upside. Yeah, he was a QB eighteen

1206
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: in points per game last year. That was with the

1207
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: terrible one on the receivers missing times.

1208
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: He had weeks for Dante Pettis, like like one of

1209
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: the weeks, yeah, Dante Pettis.

1210
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: Who else was there? J Board? Oh my god? Yeah,

1211
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: John Ross? Oh yeah. See, like just if everybody can

1212
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: stay healthy for him, that'd be great. Yeah. Yeah, No,

1213
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: I love I love Dones. A QB twenty eight, I

1214
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: guess I'm trying to just figure out the ADP. It

1215
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: has to be that because people are are factoring in

1216
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: some games for ty Rod. But Cadarius Tony it's forty

1217
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: four and ADP wide receiver forty four, Kenny Galladay's wide

1218
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: receiver fifty seven, Sterling Shepherd coming off the Chilles his

1219
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver ninety and the rookie second round pick wan

1220
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: Dale Robinson is wide receiver for ninety one. Who's your

1221
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: favorite value out of those four? Oh?

1222
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: And I mean in terms of value, it's tough to say.

1223
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: I think that you can make the case for all

1224
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: of them. I think where Kadarius Tony is going, I

1225
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: do like taking flyers on, you know, guys of massive upside,

1226
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: and we saw that from him last year in weeks

1227
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: four and five, and then you know, injuries being in

1228
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: out of the lineup kind of derailed his rookie season.

1229
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: But I liked what I saw, So I think where

1230
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: he's going Tony probably offers the most upside. But you know,

1231
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: a guy like if Sterling Shepherd is healthy week one,

1232
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna crush his ADP at wide receiver

1233
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: eighty nine. I think you like Robinson. So if he

1234
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: If they end up trading away Tony or something like

1235
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: that and Robinson starts right away or something, then I'd

1236
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: be interested. But it's hard to see how he plays

1237
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: with Tony there. So I think, you know, Robinson at

1238
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: his ADP could be appealing, but I think he's gonna

1239
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: need an injury.

1240
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: To to really to hit at that price. Yeah, I'm

1241
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: paying close attention to, like what's going on with Stern Shephard,

1242
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: because yeah, one of those two guys is going to

1243
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: be a value at wider season, the latest one. So

1244
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't it looks like he's on pace to start

1245
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: the I haven't. I haven't seen anything that says he's

1246
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: going to miss time or at least nothing guaranteed. So

1247
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: it's just more of like, you know, obviously he's coming back,

1248
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: he took the pay cut, but yeah, I don't, I don't.

1249
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to miss games as

1250
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: of now, at least that's not right, Like, that's not

1251
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing.

1252
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: It's an achilles tear though, so he probably won't return

1253
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: to pre Achilles levels right like that. That's got to

1254
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: be the most devastating injury to come back, especially the

1255
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: very next season. So when he does return, I think

1256
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: we're going to see a decline a bit in him.

1257
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean you would think the only I mean,

1258
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: so the guy that kind of turned that on its

1259
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: head was Manny Sanders. I feel like, right was that

1260
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: did he was? He did he take an extra year

1261
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: to kind of back to where No, I think he

1262
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: tore it up the year like no pun intended.

1263
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: He came back and he looked and he was in

1264
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: his thirties, right, Yeah, we kind of wrote him off,

1265
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: but no, Yeah, he definitely bucked that trend for sure.

1266
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. So because Shepherd is Daniel Jones' favorite target. Like Shepherd,

1267
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: he's on a field starting He's going to run a

1268
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: route like ninety percent of the time and catch like

1269
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: five balls every game. So yeah, I'm watching him. But

1270
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: I do like Robinson again, I just like investing in these,

1271
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, early round picks. Robinson has some juice. And

1272
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: it was interesting to me that, you know, offensive minded

1273
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: new regime with Dable coming over from Buffalo and one

1274
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: of the worst rosters in the league that they inherited. Obviously,

1275
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, go out, get the get a edge rusher

1276
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: and tackle your first two picks obviously needed that. Yeah,

1277
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: but I thought it was really interesting that in in

1278
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: round two, where you're still taking players, you're taking around too,

1279
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: you're expecting him to start that they went in a

1280
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: have the wide receiver position. So that kind of tells

1281
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: you that they might have some plans for Robinson. Now,

1282
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: is that just like a glorified Isaiah McKenzie bro Maybe,

1283
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: but which would not be good. Let's let's that would

1284
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: not be good. That would not be good. But like

1285
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: there's I just think there's there's some type of plan

1286
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: for him that maybe you know enough for me to

1287
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: take a couple of flyers on him in deeper leagues

1288
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: at wide receiver ninety one or in some best ball,

1289
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: because he does have some juice and he's a he's

1290
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: a big play guy, and none of these other guys

1291
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: has stayed healthy so or are proven that they can

1292
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: stay healthy, whether it's Tony Galladay or Shepherd. So I

1293
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Robinson runs into some value. But

1294
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, this is the time. I don't think you

1295
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: even need to draft Daniel Jones. Like I'm looking at

1296
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: the Giant schedule, here's where you want to play Daniel

1297
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: Jones week seven, Jacksonville week eight, Seattle week nine, by

1298
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: but week ten, Houston, week eleven, Detroit. He has Jacksonville, Seattle, Houston,

1299
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: Detroit in a row. The only thing screwing that up

1300
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: is a bye, because that's a point because you probably

1301
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: want to hold on to him and waste you probably

1302
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: have to waste a roster spot. But yeah, that's that's

1303
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: the stretch you on Daniel Jones, right, So stream him

1304
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: those weeks, yes, at the very least.

1305
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I'm worried that Robinson might have like

1306
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: a Rondell Moore type of rookie season where when he

1307
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: is on the field, he's exciting and everything.

1308
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just hard to see him, you know,

1309
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: finding the playing time.

1310
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: But I do want to get your thoughts on Kenny

1311
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: Galladay though, What what do you think because he was.

1312
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: One of the biggest disappointments last season, right hands down.

1313
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh So like the fact that you can get him

1314
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver fifty five right now, are you like buying

1315
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: in on that or are you completely off him?

1316
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: I have him wide receiver fifty so I'm like, I'm

1317
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: not running out to draft him, but I do have

1318
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: a couple of spots hired, and I think, listen, like,

1319
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: he's he was a late bloomer, so what is he now?

1320
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: He's he's like late twenties already. I believe if I

1321
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: had a guest twenty eight, Yeah, he was a little

1322
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: bit of a late bloomer. But he's twenty entering age

1323
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine. He turned twenty nine and like week ten, right, yeah,

1324
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: so that's you know, so he kind of peaked at

1325
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: age twenty six with the eleven touchdowns and one hundred

1326
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: and ninety yards and last two years. It just because

1327
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: the thing about Galladay that worries me is it feels

1328
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: like he was injured last year, but he played fourteen

1329
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: of seventeen games. He just caught thirty seven balls in

1330
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: those fourteen He's like what was like you said, was

1331
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: this his ego? Right? Yeah? His quarterback, his egos, coad,

1332
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator, a lot of issues. I do think.

1333
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: I do think he'll he'll probably beat this adp of

1334
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: wire your fifty seven, I'll say that, but I, oh god,

1335
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: is that so un sexy. It's just like the issue

1336
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: with the Giants last year that some people probably know

1337
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: if you're paying attention, but many people might not is

1338
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: when Jason Garrett was calling the plays, everything was isolation

1339
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: roundes and receivers breaking back to the quarterback, right, So

1340
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I just think a more creative offense is going to

1341
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: is gonna benefit Galladay because you know he's only gonna

1342
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: do so much with Kenny Galladay running back to the

1343
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: ball time after time. You gotta just let this stago

1344
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: deep sidelines things like that. He would be the closest

1345
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: thing to Stefan Diggs roll right. Yeah, I mean he

1346
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the number one receiver, but that's

1347
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: what they got him for last year. Now, again it's

1348
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: a new regime, and even with all of the circumstances,

1349
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: the decline in production is still alarming because again, he

1350
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: did play fourteen games and he didn't like everyone else

1351
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: was hurt too, so it was like he should have

1352
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: been dominating the target chair but he only got seventy

1353
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: six targets. So I'm I would say cautiously optimistic that

1354
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: he can beat the wide receiver fifty seven eightp. But yeah,

1355
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: he's just you know, if he falls, I might take him,

1356
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not running out to draft Kenny Galladay right now.

1357
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: It's only right we close it on because we don't

1358
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: have to talk about the tight ends that they have

1359
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: bell and Jerdey the worst tight end group in the league, right, Yeah,

1360
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: we don't even know who's gonna start, Like they're saying

1361
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: the rookie Bellinger was actually in the first team wraps

1362
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: in Seals, Jones and Jordan Nakens were like, you might

1363
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: see a lot of four wide sets, I mean like

1364
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: the OG Yeah, like the O G Bills. Yeah, that's like,

1365
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: why don't play a tight end? I agree, there you go,

1366
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, it's only right. We closed this, uh

1367
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: this pod by talking about Saquonekwon Barkley is going as

1368
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: the RB thirteen this year. He's not entering the year hurt,

1369
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: so that's good. But what do you I guess you know,

1370
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: is that where do you have fake? Well?

1371
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: I like I have him right in line with ADP

1372
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: and last year we were correct in fading him. I

1373
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: don't think I had a single share of Taekwon Barkley

1374
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: because he was dealing with that injury heading into the

1375
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: season and he was still being drafted like it wasn't

1376
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: an issue, and then he did. He suffered that fluky

1377
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: ankle injury in Week five, like I don't think we

1378
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: could fault him for that, but last year was kind

1379
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: of just a lost season for him. But for all

1380
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: we know, he's one hundred percent healthy heading into the season,

1381
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: and I think he's one of those backs in this

1382
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: range where he still has top five upside. I still

1383
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: think he has that sort of potential, especially if this

1384
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: offense is way better under Dable, Like I do like

1385
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: targeting Barkley as a high end RB two this year,

1386
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: So I'm riding in line with ADP.

1387
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: But there are some times right sort of.

1388
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: Push the issue and try to get you know, some

1389
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: Barkley shares this year as opposed to that last year

1390
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: we had like zero.

1391
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think this is the year you

1392
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: can hop back on. I mean, I think the line

1393
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: being better, because that was my other issue that I

1394
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: feel like was going under discuss even with the injury situation,

1395
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: was like people forgot that this dude was having games

1396
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: where he would run thirteen times for four yards. Like,

1397
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: I think the old line is going to be good enough.

1398
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: I know there's still some questions. Yeah, maybe there's a

1399
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: lot more depth.

1400
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think the only returning starter is Andrew Thomas,

1401
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: so it might take a couple of games for them

1402
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: to gel. But Brandon, like you know, Mark Lewinsky, they

1403
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: you know, they used their first round pick on Evan Neil, Like,

1404
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: this is an offensive line that's trending up, and you

1405
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: know he's been playing behind garbage offensive line. So yeah,

1406
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: that's that's a you know, slightly positive thing for Barkley.

1407
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: But heading into the season, I'm way more bullish on him.

1408
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like I do, like, you know, you know,

1409
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: we got an offensive, modern day offensive head coach now,

1410
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: so I think you know, we saw like when they

1411
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: wanted to feature Singletary in Buffalo last year, that that

1412
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: was not really what is the rby two right over

1413
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: the last month or so, so the only running back

1414
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: that scored more points was Jonathan Taylor. There you go. So, yeah,

1415
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: say Quon, we're back on him. Everyone was a year early. Yes,

1416
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: sold you not to do it. You did it anyway.

1417
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: I hope you guys did it. But nobody day because

1418
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: he was short flying off the board last year. I

1419
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: remember in drafts he was never it was never at

1420
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: a point. He never got low enough to a point

1421
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: where I was like, all right, I'll take him. Like

1422
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: never never got there.

1423
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: Was there was there was a week where we targeted

1424
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: in the DFS. I think they were playing the Falcons.

1425
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: There was one week last year we were all over him.

1426
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was another week when he bawled out

1427
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: when I think no one was on because he was

1428
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: playing the Saints run defense. I think he scored like

1429
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: the wasn't that he scored like the game winning touchdown

1430
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: in that Yeah? Yeah, I think got the under on

1431
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: his rushing yards too or something like that. Yeah, but

1432
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: he did have one hundred odd game and week Week

1433
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: six seventeen, that's good the new Week sixteen, Yeah, yes,

1434
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: the fantasy. I mean he didn't do anything else in

1435
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: that game, twenty one two touchdowns, no catches, but promising time.

1436
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, back on Sakon and he has he has

1437
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: that snap up side like he actually played eighty four

1438
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: eighty six eighty nine percent of the snaps in weeks

1439
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: two through four last year. So they actually probably used

1440
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: about it too much too soon. He has that kind

1441
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: of upside to play like eighty ninety Yeah, if they

1442
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: so choose.

1443
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And speaking of Bill's running backs, Rita is a

1444
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: clear handcuff, right.

1445
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: Yes, but I would go tread lightly because oh what

1446
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: do you guys? I have Well, I have heard some

1447
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: rumors that they are that they're they could be looking

1448
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: to bring in another veteran back. Now would he overtake

1449
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: Rita maybe, like you know, it's it's it's not like

1450
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: a lot like they could bring someone else in, so gotcha.

1451
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: But if if if we're in the preseason and it's

1452
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, we'll obviously know by then what's going on.

1453
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: But if he's if no one else is kind of

1454
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: in front of him by that point, yeah, I like

1455
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: Rita as a handcuff, but although he struggles to stay

1456
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: healthy too.

1457
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: But all right, but I mean at RB eighty, Yeah,

1458
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: he's definitely one of the cheaper, like guaranteed handcuffs for now.

1459
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: But like you said, anything can change. They can bring

1460
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: in a vet like you know, Frank Gore, Adrian Preusen,

1461
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: who knows, But yeah, for now, I think Brita is

1462
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: one of the you know, cheapest handcuffs out there.

1463
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like right now, no one's really drafted

1464
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: unless you're playing basketball, where you don't you're not really

1465
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: handcuffing in best ball. It should be so oh you

1466
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be let me say that, I just not think

1467
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be because you want to maximize the upside

1468
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: of every slot in your in your lineup, so you

1469
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't be handcuffing.

1470
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: Get that's straight, Oh joking aside, Like I don't think

1471
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson or Frank were playing. There Are there any

1472
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: like free agent running backs out there? Because this is

1473
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: the time of year where I do like to kind

1474
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: of take a flyer on a couple of them. We

1475
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: have the Scott Fish Bowl coming up.

1476
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: I like to do that.

1477
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: Are there any free agent running backs out there that

1478
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: you think we should be targeting at all?

1479
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the list right now, and oh, it

1480
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: looks bad this year. Never mind?

1481
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeahs David Johnson, Justin Jackson, Latavius Murray, It.

1482
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Justin Jackson. I feel like is I don't

1483
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: know what, like, I feel like he was actually good

1484
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: when he was on the field. It's just injuries with him.

1485
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Speaker 1: So I mean, but it's like, if he's not signed now,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to inspire any confidences. Old.

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Speaker 2: Whould you say, David Johnson, he's been watching? Oh, I

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Speaker 2: guess Jordan Howard if he ends up back in Philly.

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Speaker 2: He did look pretty good last year. So yeah, but

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Speaker 2: he's the only guy I would even consider.

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Speaker 1: And even him, it's like, yeah, almost has to go

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Speaker 1: to Philly, Like what other team maybe Baltimore, Baltimore maybe

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because yeah we're kind off, we're off JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 1: That's our that's I guess that's our Saquon this.

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Speaker 2: Year, right, Yeah, yeah, I think he would be the

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Speaker 2: saque already, you know if he for week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the new Saquon and not in a good way.

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Speaker 1: In a good way. Yeah. On that note, sleeper before

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Speaker 1: you get out of a sleep, Giants gotta be Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones like QB twenty eight. Yep. Love it in a bust?

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Speaker 2: Uh, No one really because everyone's going late enough they

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Speaker 2: won't ruin your team even if they do bust. So

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Speaker 2: if you're drafting any tight end from the Giants, there

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Speaker 2: you go. That's your bust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't do that. All right. It's going to

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