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Speaker 1: Buck Brief. On this episode, we have Katalina Love with us.
Speaker 1: She is the founder of the Defense of Freedom PAC
Speaker 1: formerly ran for Congress in a tough race, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate her being here. She just got back from the UK.
Speaker 1: She may be a little jet lagged, so we can
Speaker 1: talk about some UK stuff too. I just got back
Speaker 1: from Scotland last summer. I love it up there. But
Speaker 1: they are communists. I don't know what happened to them,
Speaker 1: but they're politics great people, beautiful country. Terrible politics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just too close to Russia and
Speaker 2: all of the mess over there.
Speaker 3: No, they've unfortunately, they've been sucked.
Speaker 2: In by the globalst un type of mentality where they
Speaker 2: want to be part of Europe, but yet some of
Speaker 2: them want to be independent and I'll remain pretty Western,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to the economic system. But they
Speaker 2: were just being, you know, unfortunately manipulated a lot.
Speaker 3: Their media is.
Speaker 2: And so if we think ours is corrupted out here
Speaker 2: when it comes to just liberal mainstream media. Mayhem over
Speaker 2: there is just beyond horrible. Their government run news is entirely.
Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever see that exchange from
Speaker 1: with the BBC presenter and Jordan Peterson where she keeps saying, well,
Speaker 1: well in other words, in other words, and he's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: not in other words. You know, they're kind of going
Speaker 1: back and forth, but she keeps saying in other words
Speaker 1: to change what he says to be something she can attack,
Speaker 1: and she does it over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was amazing that someone could be
Speaker 1: paid to do something as straightforward as interview people on
Speaker 1: TV and be as bad at it as the BBC.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember her name, but she was pretty horrible.
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you actual it's funny you
Speaker 1: just came back with the UK about the royal family.
Speaker 1: First of all, do you watch the Crown?
Speaker 3: I thought some of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of it, that's it, only some of it? Okay,
Speaker 1: wife and I are watching this thing now all the time.
Speaker 1: How much have we talked? You've seen like two episodes?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I saw the first couple of seasons and I'll tell
Speaker 3: you why.
Speaker 2: And then I want to hear your perspective, but I,
Speaker 2: as a British history lover, I believe that sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: if it wasn't it's not the Tutors. The Crown seemed
Speaker 2: a little too slow for me. There wasn't enough you know,
Speaker 2: scandal like the Tutor Court.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how historically accurate it is. So
Speaker 3: that was my qualms with it, why I didn't watch
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But what were you going to say?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was I think it's pretty on the
Speaker 1: broad strokes. The historical accuracy is there, here's what's going on. So,
Speaker 1: as you know, I do a radio show with my man,
Speaker 1: Clay Travis, you know, like five hundred stations, no big deal,
Speaker 1: and we argue about this. We argue about sometimes because
Speaker 1: he thinks that the British royal family is fascinating and classy,
Speaker 1: and I think that monarchy is at best quaint anachronism
Speaker 1: and really more kind of bizarre and something that people
Speaker 1: need to just like let go of. Now. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to tell people in Great Britain that they should
Speaker 1: stop with this bizarre obsession about you know, that's their
Speaker 1: own thing. But for Americans, I don't understand this at all,
Speaker 1: Like I'll watch The Crown because it's entertainment, and I
Speaker 1: think the royal family is for entertainment purposes. Okay, I
Speaker 1: guess kind of like the Kardashians in this country, you know,
Speaker 1: or reality TV to some degree. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: anyone has, as an American any affinity for them. Clay
Speaker 1: is a big Queen Elizabeth fan. That's how this comes up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why what does she do? You know, she
Speaker 1: shows up and does this sort of little hand wave
Speaker 1: thing that they do.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know that.
Speaker 2: They account for billions of dollars of the UK economy,
Speaker 2: so I think they have a financial reason to keep
Speaker 2: them around.
Speaker 1: But what do you mean billions? Like how so what
Speaker 1: billions of dollars? How by selling TV rights or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, the amount they I believe are the number one.
Speaker 3: Like they completely sustain most of.
Speaker 2: The economy when it comes to tourism because Americans are
Speaker 2: so obsessed with English history as a whole. You go
Speaker 2: to the UK and you've been all of these castles
Speaker 2: anywhere that you go, they're all A lot of them
Speaker 2: are either owned by the family or they're they're pretty
Speaker 2: much maintained by a national trust, especially parks and things
Speaker 2: like that, and so I mean they just attract visitors
Speaker 2: from everywhere because I mean it's cool even where you know,
Speaker 2: I was spending some time there and you have you know,
Speaker 2: a Roman wall from you know, nine hundred years ago. No,
Speaker 2: that's yeah, well that's a lot north. But there are
Speaker 2: a lot of different like ruin areas.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's so interesting. I mean, there is.
Speaker 3: It is an interesting thing. They've gone through so much.
Speaker 2: Think about a country that was completely attacked for centuries
Speaker 2: and they've somehow maintained and were at some point the
Speaker 2: greatest empire in the world until you know, we came
Speaker 2: along and destroyed them in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 3: But there is a lot of history there.
Speaker 2: So I understand why Americans are so enthralled with not
Speaker 2: only the history, but then the magic.
Speaker 4: Of the You're one of them.
Speaker 1: You buy into this whole royal family, this this whole
Speaker 1: fable of I mean, it's a mean look at some
Speaker 1: of the royals. You go back the last I don't know,
Speaker 1: the last one hundred years or so. You had the
Speaker 1: abdication king, right, the guy who stepped down who was
Speaker 1: the brother of the guy who was stuttering, and then
Speaker 1: we had the whole movie about how he overcame his stutter.
Speaker 1: I had a speech impedant as a child, So I'm
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, a lot of us overcome stutters.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't mean that you're like a
Speaker 1: global hero, but anyway, so we have we have that
Speaker 1: guy who we find out is actually a Nazi, not
Speaker 1: the stutterer, but the guy who abdicated. He's a Nazi
Speaker 1: sympathizer who wanted the Nazis to put him in charge
Speaker 1: if they were able to super piece with the British.
Speaker 1: And then you have Prince Andrew, who we know not good,
Speaker 1: not good, what's going on there he's in And then
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that's I don't even follow
Speaker 1: the Charles and Diana stuff. I mean, he didn't do
Speaker 1: anything like criminal or awful or he's not a trader
Speaker 1: from what I understand, But I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like these people are are to your point, yeah,
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace, keep it as a museum, sure, but do
Speaker 1: we need people walking around as museum pieces with everyone
Speaker 1: acting like we should listen to what they have to
Speaker 1: say like, I don't care what any of these under
Speaker 1: educated trust fund babies have to say about anything in
Speaker 1: the British Royal family. And I give you Megan Markle
Speaker 1: as my final, my final addition to this.
Speaker 3: You know, she ruined that, she ruined the royal family.
Speaker 2: For me, I will say, loved the Tutor era, loved
Speaker 2: you know, Queen Elizabeth. I first, I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: to learn from all of their faults in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways, but there was also again history, I mean
Speaker 2: when you look at something like the Tutor dynasty, I
Speaker 2: mean they changed history.
Speaker 3: Henry the eighth broke.
Speaker 2: Off from the Catholic Church, divorced his wife, and that's
Speaker 2: arguably what created, you know, a sector of Christianity to
Speaker 2: that eventually came to our country.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot I think. I think I do
Speaker 3: agree with.
Speaker 1: I chopped off some of his wife's heads. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a church founded on the family values. As
Speaker 1: Hitchins used to say of Henry the Eighth, it's probably
Speaker 1: not a good thing, you know. That's that's pretty intense.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen some arguments, and I've seen some rough
Speaker 1: divorces from Afar, but but sending your wife to the
Speaker 1: guillotine is or you know, to the headsman's acts. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's history. You're right, it's fascinating as history,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But I don't know if like
Speaker 1: the Church of England is something that is uh, it's
Speaker 1: really more of a social club. Now, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: like the Anglican Church. It's my dad is an Anglican.
Speaker 1: So I can say this. It's like, give me a
Speaker 1: break the whole thing, you know, just be Catholics and
Speaker 1: give it and give it a rest. So all right,
Speaker 1: so we don't agree on the British royal family. That's
Speaker 1: one thing I'm gonna need you to explain then to me,
Speaker 1: because you are you are barely a millennial, right, you're
Speaker 1: almost gen Z, but you're a millennial where you're like
Speaker 1: you're like a.
Speaker 3: I think I'm ten Z. Yes, no, I'm a I'm
Speaker 3: a full out millennial.
Speaker 1: You're a full millennial. Okay, I thought you were like
Speaker 1: customer millennial gen z. All right, Well you can explain
Speaker 1: the tailor.
Speaker 3: St today It's okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: You can explain the how do you have to how
Speaker 1: old do you have to be to run for Congress?
Speaker 1: Isn't it twenty five?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: It is twenty five?
Speaker 1: Yes, see yeah, so see you could have Caroline Leavitt,
Speaker 1: I think ram when she was twenty six up in
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Speaker 1: White House Press secretary. So you know, yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1: I got to talk about a sponsor. He for a second,
Speaker 1: we come back that you can explain why people So
Speaker 1: you just tried to tell me that the British royal
Speaker 1: family Americans are allowed to be obsessed with it because
Speaker 1: of history, and I'm sitting here like, okay, what I mean?
Speaker 1: We could go We could go many rounds on this one.
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Speaker 1: a Taylor? What are you a Swifty? A Taylor Swift fan?
Speaker 1: Is that something that we would say explain to explain yourself?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, And I'm appalled by the women in my generation.
Speaker 3: That are so obsessed.
Speaker 2: She's like a cult leader for millennial women all the
Speaker 2: way down to I mean even younger. There's you know,
Speaker 2: seventy eight year olds that are obsessed with there as
Speaker 2: much as thirty thirty five year old women are. I
Speaker 2: don't understand it. I do not understand it. I am
Speaker 2: not a Swiftie by any means, and I'm sad that
Speaker 2: this is what, you know, America's culture has turned into.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a Stevie Nick Scalp, you know, I was.
Speaker 2: My heart was born in the seventies, and I just
Speaker 2: do not understand the obsession with with Taylor Swift nowadays.
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But it seems like adults even are are asking all
Speaker 1: these questions about Travis Kelsey, whom I only know of
Speaker 1: now apparently he's very good at football. I only know
Speaker 1: about him because of this Taylor Swift phenomenon because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to read the news for adults, and the number
Speaker 1: one thing this is why, like, you know what, You're
Speaker 1: actually helping me illuminate something that I've just figured out
Speaker 1: about myself. I like the Daily Mail a lot, but
Speaker 1: the thing that drives me nuts about the Daily Mail
Speaker 1: as a news source is there's all this crap about
Speaker 1: Megan and Harry, you know.
Speaker 4: Harry, who's just like, I'll just do whatever Mugan says.
Speaker 4: Mgan wolves you know, he's the most boring buffoon the planet.
Speaker 4: And we just want to privacy. That's why we're doing
Speaker 4: interviews because of privacy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you've got all these celebrity you know, these
Speaker 1: celebrity things like the tailors. So it's I open daily mail.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for their good news, and what they give
Speaker 1: me is a lot of stuff about Taylor Swift and
Speaker 1: the British royal family. Why why is it? The people
Speaker 1: don't realize it is a It is a giant waste
Speaker 1: of time, and people probably tell me it's wasted time
Speaker 1: for me even talk about it now, But it got
Speaker 1: so much attention that I'm this is cathartic for me.
Speaker 1: Why do people waste their time caring about celebrities personal lives?
Speaker 1: This I've honestly never understood this at all. Like I
Speaker 1: don't really get it who someone is dating or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish them well, it's great. I hope they are
Speaker 1: like very happy, get married and have lots of kids.
Speaker 1: Why does what explain like to me? Where this comes from?
Speaker 1: This desire to like dig into the relationship.
Speaker 4: Is it real? Is it just for the cameras?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly think it began in the Kardashian reality
Speaker 2: TV era, and I do believe that, you know, Rai
Speaker 2: Dalio a long time said that for so long it
Speaker 2: was never culture, never ran politics, and now it's the opposite.
Speaker 2: We're living in a time where all of these cultural things,
Speaker 2: you know, Taylor Swift now, how she's involved with, you know,
Speaker 2: supporting Biden.
Speaker 3: It's like the somewhere along the way that impacted our
Speaker 3: culture and now it's flitting into our politics.
Speaker 2: But I believe that it's just because we're living in
Speaker 2: this reality TV era where you know, we don't have
Speaker 2: people that are talking about the substantive issues. I mean,
Speaker 2: you are, and there are others in you know, our
Speaker 2: our lane of things that want to talk about things
Speaker 2: that matter, but we've just become so dumbed down as
Speaker 2: a society. And unfortunately, I'm embarrassed that a lot of
Speaker 2: you know, women are kind of that's all that they
Speaker 2: want to talk about instead of talking about ideas or
Speaker 2: philosophy or history or you know, politics and things like that.
Speaker 2: And we're just so this it's again, it's they make
Speaker 2: so much more money off of it though too. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about how much money Taylor Swift made off of
Speaker 2: all of these concerts and these women, these women being
Speaker 2: obsessed with her and now with her relationship. I believe
Speaker 2: that it started because of the reality TV era, that
Speaker 2: once we broke that you know, the proverbial what do
Speaker 2: they say that, not.
Speaker 3: The invisible hand, but that in a theater.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, once we broke that in reality TV, it
Speaker 2: completely changed the game. And unfortunately, I don't know if
Speaker 2: we can go back. You know, you don't see as
Speaker 2: much reality TV going on, and I guess people still
Speaker 2: care about relationships and things like that, but now it's
Speaker 2: just in your face all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, I would understand it if people were generally rooting
Speaker 1: for others to be happy, but obviously that's asking way
Speaker 1: too much because people like to revel in the misery
Speaker 1: of others. Let's actually talk about social media a second,
Speaker 1: because did you see on Capitol Hill I think it
Speaker 1: was a week ago all these members of Congress were like,
Speaker 1: I want accountability for Facebook, and they're like yelling about
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: This just you might've been in the UK when this
Speaker 1: was going on. But this was the big thing was
Speaker 1: they were having and then then they have. Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: was like okay, I'm like really sorry and we're you know,
Speaker 1: and no, Mark Zuckerberg's worth like eighty billion dollars more
Speaker 1: this week than he was last week, Like none of this.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the social media stuff here in a second.
Speaker 1: You can agree with me, but I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: think about this one. People that talk about banning TikTok,
Speaker 1: this is just like red meat that's fed. No one
Speaker 1: ever thinks this through. You're not going to ban TikTok.
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually do anything. But I know that's controversial
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Speaker 1: they want to do something about it in Congress, but
Speaker 1: they don't.
Speaker 3: What do you say, I believe it? Does you know?
Speaker 2: I was looking at a lot of these studies to
Speaker 2: bring up you know, women again, it studies show that
Speaker 2: it's actually made women more depressed, particularly liberal women, because
Speaker 2: they are actually on social media more than conservative women are.
Speaker 3: And I do believe that it is making us dumber,
Speaker 3: more sadder.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's just you know, it's just destroying relationships.
Speaker 3: It's just a distraction.
Speaker 2: And I know it's so important because in this age
Speaker 2: of communication, and it's amazing that you can have this
Speaker 2: medium to you know, share your life or even you know,
Speaker 2: speak with others or remember when Facebook first came out,
Speaker 2: how great that was to reconnect with people and all
Speaker 2: of that. But I think unfortunately it's gotten so big
Speaker 2: to the point where it's just eating everybody. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just it's a part of everybody's life, and we're
Speaker 2: I think we're taking away from human connection, We're taking
Speaker 2: away from the realities of life, and it's unfortunately, I believe,
Speaker 2: really impacting people's mental health.
Speaker 3: But everybody has a choice, you know, you have the
Speaker 3: choice to.
Speaker 2: Be on social media or spend eight hours a day
Speaker 2: on it or not. And so I think it's it's
Speaker 2: amazing what technology has become. But I do believe that
Speaker 2: it's to the detriment of a human I don't want
Speaker 2: to say psychology, but I guess human psychology.
Speaker 1: So they keep telling us that they want to ban TikTok,
Speaker 1: but they never ban TikTok. Right, this is something that's
Speaker 1: bipartisan now to from members of Congress. I actually think
Speaker 1: that a lot of the time, when you have congressional
Speaker 1: agreement on something that's at issue, it's something to be
Speaker 1: like wary of. You're like, oh, these guys all agree.
Speaker 1: Something's up, like they're they're getting kickbacks, or there's something
Speaker 1: to see. There's something that they don't want you to
Speaker 1: see here. And I've been saying that they're not going
Speaker 1: to do it because here's here's my theory, okay, and
Speaker 1: you can agree or disagree with me, but this is
Speaker 1: but agreeing with me Catalina just means you're a brilliant
Speaker 1: person of excellent judgment. So I'm going to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. They say that they want to get rid
Speaker 1: of TikTok, and it's because they want to show, like,
Speaker 1: teach China lesson. I'm sitting here like China is engaged
Speaker 1: in the most sophisticated hacking operations and has been for
Speaker 1: twenty years in the history of the planet, stealing all
Speaker 1: kinds of sensitive information from companies, from government agencies, from everything.
Speaker 1: There's so much that's going on that people aren't even
Speaker 1: aware of in terms of corporate espionage, all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. The idea that China is going to be
Speaker 1: some power that will displace us because they know that
Speaker 1: I like to watch gun, red meat and puppy videos
Speaker 1: on my phone is absurd to me. I know, they
Speaker 1: keep saying, oh, they're going to have all your data,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't use a Chinese based chat app. And
Speaker 1: I know some people are because people can see that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll just know whatever it is you're writing.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand. I'm sitting there, I'm scrolling through
Speaker 1: the videos, I watch what I want to watch, and
Speaker 1: they're like, they're telling me that, oh, they're going to
Speaker 1: change your mind. They're going to do propagandaity like Google
Speaker 1: is already doing that. YouTube is already doing that. And
Speaker 1: they concern me a lot more than China does.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm off on my own on this
Speaker 4: one though, So I'm just going to hand that off
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 3: I do understand.
Speaker 2: So there was actually a bill that they were working
Speaker 2: on just from what I've heard from the inside on
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3: It was a couple of months ago, and there.
Speaker 2: Were certain provisions that they were trying to do in
Speaker 2: terms of the security aspect of China, so in terms
Speaker 2: of them being able to gain access to data and
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 3: So I think it's a hard one because if TikTok is.
Speaker 2: Just another medium, like you're saying that, you know, you
Speaker 2: watch things, you do things, and it's actually it's fine.
Speaker 3: You can make your own judgment. I do believe that
Speaker 3: there's more nuance in.
Speaker 2: The political aspect of it when it does come to
Speaker 2: data in privacy, and I think that unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean, there are any time.
Speaker 2: That something's not getting passed and yet it could be
Speaker 2: for the greater good of both sides. To put it
Speaker 2: that way, there is something a little more underlying there,
Speaker 2: and I think that it's actually a lot more nefarious
Speaker 2: than we believe from an outside perspective.
Speaker 1: Do you go on TikTok?
Speaker 3: I don't. I've never downloaded it, but.
Speaker 1: No, it's it is super it is super addictive. I
Speaker 1: will tell you you can blow through two hours waiting
Speaker 1: in the airport, you know, for your flight or something.
Speaker 1: If it's delayed and you're just it can just take
Speaker 1: over your brain. I mean maybe I'm making a case
Speaker 1: against it them like I could take over your brain.
Speaker 4: But what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: I will tell you though.
Speaker 2: It has been a huge success for different companies, especially
Speaker 2: in the consumer package good space. You look at all
Speaker 2: these different makeup companies or again you know nutrition or
Speaker 2: CpG companies. It's been hugely successful to a lot of
Speaker 2: our companies here in a way that Facebook ads Instagram
Speaker 2: ads just can't even come because people are spending so
Speaker 2: much time on it. And when it comes to an
Speaker 2: advertising perspective, for some reason, you have a higher turnover
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a higher successparate and the conversion rate in
Speaker 2: a product on TikTok then I believe any other form
Speaker 2: of ad on social media. And so it is very
Speaker 2: powerful from an ad and a perspective, and also for
Speaker 2: our businesses. So that's also very tough too, especially in
Speaker 2: an economy like this where it's traditionally hard to grow
Speaker 2: some of these industries, and here you go something like
Speaker 2: TikTok is making some companies or keeping them in a
Speaker 2: survival state.
Speaker 3: Because you'll have a mom.
Speaker 2: That wants to buy things or you know, makeup brands
Speaker 2: like I'm saying, I mean, it's just crazy how much
Speaker 2: money TikTok can generate for companies nowadays.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's an interesting I'm going to
Speaker 1: cut up some parts of this interview and put it
Speaker 1: on TikTok. So you're going to be on tiko alright,
Speaker 1: So assuming assuming this is going to go on TikTok,
Speaker 1: what is the one bit of health advice that you
Speaker 1: like to give people. I know you're into a holistic
Speaker 1: and alternative health. What is the one thing you're like,
Speaker 1: you need to understand the following about what you're eating
Speaker 1: or putting into your body or what you need to
Speaker 1: be doing or whatever. What is the one thing that
Speaker 1: you would tell as many people as you could via TikTok?
Speaker 3: Stay away from seed oils. Seed oils are destroying our bodies.
Speaker 2: They're destroying our gut, micro bryomes, they're aging us.
Speaker 3: Stay away from seed oils.
Speaker 2: Look at the ingredients and anything that you buy from
Speaker 2: the grocery store, but stay away from seed oils.
Speaker 1: Number one, And for the younger ladies in our audience
Speaker 1: who are not yet married and who are out there dating.
Speaker 1: I know you have a wonderful, wonderful boyfriend in the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom, have not met him yet, but I hear
Speaker 1: great things. What is the best dating advice you would
Speaker 1: give your generation of ladies right now? Like if you
Speaker 1: could sit them down and say one thing that I
Speaker 1: think you need to know, or that I wish someone
Speaker 1: had told me ten years ago, whatever, what would it be?
Speaker 2: Never chase a man ever, men are supposed to pursue chivalry.
Speaker 3: Is not done.
Speaker 2: And timing has a lot to do with finding a
Speaker 2: significant other. You have to be prepared. You have to
Speaker 2: be in a good spot. You have to be in
Speaker 2: your own have a positive sense of well being on
Speaker 2: your own before you know bringing having a partnership.
Speaker 3: It is all about timing.
Speaker 2: Got to be in the right mindset to want to
Speaker 2: settle down, have a family, have children and all of that.
Speaker 3: But the right guy will will come around.
Speaker 2: What's meant to be will find its way, and timing is.
Speaker 1: A lot to do with it, all right. See you
Speaker 1: stay to the end of the podcast, you get some
Speaker 1: great advice and maybe even some TikTok fodder from that
Speaker 1: laugh kettle. Thank you so much for making the time.
Speaker 1: Get some sleep. I know you're jet lagged and we
Speaker 1: will talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you,