Speaker 1: You said that little Nozacks is a puppet of white supremacy,
Speaker 1: not even a puppet of LGBT advocate because I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna tell you a secret. This
Speaker 1: is a little bit of insight ball. The LGBT advocacy
Speaker 1: and it of itself was a puppet of white liberal
Speaker 1: supremacy and totalitarianism. Now now brown Cow, Now now Brown Cow,
Speaker 1: Unique New York, Unique New York. That's definitely gonna peep.
Speaker 1: The best oratory takes Rhyinberger and that's funny. No sailors,
Speaker 1: g low glasses up here, my boy co host partner
Speaker 1: who I can't get to come on Instagram live enough, Peter.
Speaker 1: What you're drinking? Oh man? This is there's some street
Speaker 1: corner ship right here. I'll tell you that much. This
Speaker 1: is the Mississippi Mud Black and Tan. It's um, I
Speaker 1: dig it, but you know it's not anything to brag
Speaker 1: about it. It's a Black and Tanna. It's a it's beer.
Speaker 1: It's like pills, Porter and Pilser exactly right there. Porter
Speaker 1: and Pilser is the Spirits beers. Okay, it's a beer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that looked like a like like a real type of
Speaker 1: MA liquor. It's supposed to kind of have that country
Speaker 1: kind of moon presentation and stuff like that. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's got a cartoon alligator on the label. So what
Speaker 1: else do you want? Hey, guys rail So she back
Speaker 1: and of course king the engineers back. We got him
Speaker 1: for another week. This is crazy. We gotta pack ins
Speaker 1: and next year now because I ain't no telling where
Speaker 1: he gonna be gone. Yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: So this is what happened this whole week. Crazy, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know about it because I was expressed
Speaker 1: it to you before. But so somebody asked me about him.
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, you know, do you think little
Speaker 1: nos X is? It's like bad for kids? And I
Speaker 1: didn't really answer the question. I was like, like, how
Speaker 1: do you even answer? Was bad for I don't have
Speaker 1: no ship. Life is bad for them, little bas everything's
Speaker 1: covered out. So he asked me that I think he
Speaker 1: was like a part of the agenda for the l
Speaker 1: g B t Q, and so I didn't retweet him.
Speaker 1: I just tweeted out I said I don't think little
Speaker 1: nas I said, Little nos X isn't a puppet for
Speaker 1: the l g B t Q, Little nos X is
Speaker 1: a puppet for white supremacy. And then I started to
Speaker 1: elaborate on Twitter, like, yeah, his artist just corny as fun.
Speaker 1: It's all of these pop ideas rehatched in black face,
Speaker 1: gay black face, so people, you know, it was reading
Speaker 1: and some people agreed, and then they got a hold
Speaker 1: to it, and then Little Nosak saw it, so he
Speaker 1: retweeted it. He retweeted it with a concept that he
Speaker 1: calls ratio, which is saying his power and internet is
Speaker 1: more power, so he's gonna get more retweets and likes
Speaker 1: on what he says. That's kind of roughly what the
Speaker 1: concept is on the internet. So he he said that
Speaker 1: he used it a part of his marketing. He used
Speaker 1: my tweet as a part of his market This is
Speaker 1: day seven or something and now I'm puppet for white supremacy.
Speaker 1: And as his fans saw it, they started filling up
Speaker 1: my mentions with a bunch of Oh, you're homophoon, you're
Speaker 1: homophoonte yo. It's it's crazy to me that straight men
Speaker 1: feel me still hating on the young black man getting money,
Speaker 1: and I'm just letting them go off and they just
Speaker 1: go crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Meanwhile, the original tweet is
Speaker 1: picking up steam. So dude was cussing. I said, man,
Speaker 1: you can ask me what I mean versus just mislabeling me,
Speaker 1: Like I could just mislabel anybody. I could just call
Speaker 1: you Ray because you're white. He's like, why I haven't
Speaker 1: did anything racist. I said, well, I haven't did anything
Speaker 1: on my phone. Why are you going after little NASAs?
Speaker 1: You know, you boosty t I And I thought to myself, like,
Speaker 1: so we're just black and wrapped. So we're the same person,
Speaker 1: like your old ass black ass, you know, conservative, liberal democratic,
Speaker 1: old school to go to the church ass, you know,
Speaker 1: all that kind of ship. So and I see what
Speaker 1: was going on with the baby, even though he didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it specifically. I saw what
Speaker 1: was going on with Booty, and I saw what was
Speaker 1: going on with Tia, but I really didn't give it
Speaker 1: creating because their stance is not necessarily my stance. Um.
Speaker 1: As far as Little NASAs like, I tweeted him, I
Speaker 1: tweeted him back. When I see him retweeted, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I said, you corny, little bro, and I pray you
Speaker 1: grow out of it. That's a good friend. I wish
Speaker 1: and he just felt so like I could tell it
Speaker 1: bothered him. And the reality is this little nas action
Speaker 1: is a talented gift to young man. He's tough. I
Speaker 1: mean he old Town wrote is a fantastic song. The
Speaker 1: other songs aren't as good, but it's tough to still
Speaker 1: make a song as good as that. But they are
Speaker 1: pretty decently composed records. The ideas are executed well, the
Speaker 1: visuals are wrote in these very good stories, and he
Speaker 1: uses his brand well. But again when I'm talking about
Speaker 1: him being a puppet of white supremacy, a puppet as
Speaker 1: an entertainment piece, got it. And so I was comparing
Speaker 1: him to Bert Williams right, who is Burt Williams is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest black face actors and he's a brother,
Speaker 1: and he was a super dope actor, super successful for me,
Speaker 1: but he could never get a ton of opportunities and
Speaker 1: other films. And it was people I would imagine at
Speaker 1: that time that felt like Bert Williams right was a
Speaker 1: good actor, and and other people defending him like when
Speaker 1: he's a great actor, and I don't think they figured
Speaker 1: it out, just like the people coming to me that
Speaker 1: didn't figure it out. And Charlotte Magne told me some
Speaker 1: real ship. We popped it up. We was popping it
Speaker 1: after that, just chopping it up about it. And he said,
Speaker 1: g you just didn't read the room. And he said
Speaker 1: everybody was gonna compare you to everybody else what they
Speaker 1: were saying. And I said, man, that's a great point.
Speaker 1: I was like this still, crip, I don't care. And
Speaker 1: that's what matters. What was little nos x crip ratio.
Speaker 1: What the irony is? The irony is he didn't realize
Speaker 1: most great black men don't get a ton of support, right,
Speaker 1: That's true, and it goes the same I think for
Speaker 1: black women. Yeah, yeah, well you know this ain't you're
Speaker 1: you're trying to talk all the time, but just not
Speaker 1: black folks in general. But you know, specifically, the black
Speaker 1: man means the black woman. I mean, I guess I would,
Speaker 1: but that's what it really means. It don't mean just
Speaker 1: you know, black black. Okay. So, so you're not subscribed
Speaker 1: or you're not completely subscribing to the Prime Minister of
Speaker 1: Canada's humankind reference because mankind is too gender specific based
Speaker 1: off of humankind. So people kind I'm sorry, people kind
Speaker 1: of you man right, I don't know I'll get it
Speaker 1: to all that silly ship that the wifolks got going
Speaker 1: on leave correct in honest, like you said that little
Speaker 1: Nozax is a puppet of white supremacy, not even a
Speaker 1: puppet of LGBT advocate because I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna tell you a secret. This is a
Speaker 1: little bit of insight as well. The LGBT advocacy in
Speaker 1: it of itself was a puppet of white liberal supremacy
Speaker 1: and totalitarianism. And that's a fact. And I have some
Speaker 1: serious questions, like like just Joe gay guy, or like
Speaker 1: the most urgus, random individual trans person who works at
Speaker 1: Macy's at the cash register, whatever the hell else does
Speaker 1: that common person in society who could get through their
Speaker 1: day without probably being bothered. Maybe they can, or maybe
Speaker 1: they're trajector maybe their trajectory is so that they can
Speaker 1: in the future, sometime in the near future, when political
Speaker 1: advocacy groups thrust you into the quote unquote demilitarized zone
Speaker 1: between North and South Korea, so to speak, in the
Speaker 1: political spectrum, does that make your life easier or harder?
Speaker 1: That's one of the real questions I want to know,
Speaker 1: Like do do you as a gay person, as a lesbian,
Speaker 1: as a as a transient person, as as as a
Speaker 1: bisexual or whatever that whatever it is that you want
Speaker 1: to be under that umbrella is your life made easier
Speaker 1: by the fact that there are a lot of political
Speaker 1: adversary machines with a lot of money behind them, thrusting
Speaker 1: you into a very adversarial position just for you to
Speaker 1: go through your daily life. That's a question that I
Speaker 1: have about that entire thing, because I don't trust the
Speaker 1: motives of it when the motives of it have obvious
Speaker 1: political benefits and obvious monetary benefits tied to them. That's
Speaker 1: actually brilliant. But the concept of white liberal supremacy is
Speaker 1: an underrated concept that people don't want to speak up
Speaker 1: because liberals don't want to speak about it because they
Speaker 1: want to act like it's just conservative. Like, no, it's
Speaker 1: left wing. Right wings are very decentralized, very different. But
Speaker 1: all people in general, to a degree, I believe, are
Speaker 1: decentralized for sure. So long story short, I was referring
Speaker 1: his art like, so right, Bert Williams, Right, all he
Speaker 1: was doing was dressing in black face, right in real time.
Speaker 1: Everybody didn't look at him as a cool. Right. See,
Speaker 1: it's this false narrative that, oh, he's a coon, because again,
Speaker 1: looking at yesterday with today's eyes is different. It was
Speaker 1: people who respect acted him at that time. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a black man. So he's using charcoal or whatever
Speaker 1: they used to darken the skin some more, to exaggerate
Speaker 1: the features. He's a black man acting as a white
Speaker 1: man acting as a black man. Well, that's the point, right,
Speaker 1: So he has a it's the cherry lipstick to make
Speaker 1: his lips look even more red because our lips are red,
Speaker 1: and his swagger was over exaggerated to over exaggerate how
Speaker 1: we act. Right. That don't take away from his talent.
Speaker 1: He was a talented actor. But again, at that time,
Speaker 1: people didn't look at him as much as a cool
Speaker 1: as we do today. We look back at that time
Speaker 1: and be like, y'all, motherfucker's it's cool. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's the same thing for this little dude. The reality is,
Speaker 1: this little dude is over exaggerating the lifestyles of a
Speaker 1: gay black man here right for their entertainment. It's not
Speaker 1: really like we're not getting a true idea of what
Speaker 1: it's like for him to be a young black man.
Speaker 1: In America, a young black gay man in America. Like,
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to do it metaphorically, but I
Speaker 1: think he can do a better job of telling his
Speaker 1: story of his perspective of how it feels to be
Speaker 1: a black gay man. Well, I mean, it's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with exactly. And that's the that's where yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: it gets weird to me, right, because it's like it's like, um,
Speaker 1: you're over exaggerating all of the concepts, right, All your
Speaker 1: concepts are parody of themselves. Right. The music itself is
Speaker 1: good to decent two good Old Town Road is great,
Speaker 1: fantastic fire, right, But you're doing the same thing Bert
Speaker 1: Williams was doing. So even though today we look at it,
Speaker 1: they think he's some kind of trailblazer, like in the future,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a bunch of minstrel shows. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: people don't look back at this time, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about him the way they talked about Burt
Speaker 1: Williams as far as his art being corny, right, watching
Speaker 1: the videos, because I watched them, right, I just showed
Speaker 1: him to you again, right, is the ideas are all right,
Speaker 1: the ideas are I have to watch because as a creator,
Speaker 1: you always looking at everybody else creating. It's almost like
Speaker 1: you you you keep an eye on everybody you're competing with.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean to make great art, And
Speaker 1: he's nothing less than a very sharp artist. He knows
Speaker 1: what he's doing and he's really good at understanding the
Speaker 1: trigger points of arousal, like as far as you know
Speaker 1: how people what things go viral, he's he's a marketing
Speaker 1: genius to a degree, has a genius marketing team. Either way, right,
Speaker 1: I think it's him because, like I said, I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination. I think it's a combination of both.
Speaker 1: But what it is is his ideas are just rewrap
Speaker 1: pop ideas and black face A question for you, how
Speaker 1: about comparison looking retrospectively at like another and different character,
Speaker 1: different perception and everything, like how does black America perceive
Speaker 1: fifty sixty years later, Sammy Davis Jr. Well, So, for
Speaker 1: the most part, he celebrated to a degree, But there's
Speaker 1: that corner of people that feel like some people thought
Speaker 1: he shocked in jobs. It's not a big corner, it's
Speaker 1: a small corner. But I don't think this is different.
Speaker 1: Is there room for a modern day camp to that
Speaker 1: in this space similar to naas Puff, Puff is Sammy
Speaker 1: David Jor elaborate that that was a hot take a
Speaker 1: black and tan. So why do you why? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: I mean, Puff is the cool guy. He's a cool guy, multifaceted,
Speaker 1: multitalent branding genius. His brand is through the roof everything
Speaker 1: he represents. Puff represents. Puff is modern day Sammy Davis Jr.
Speaker 1: As As a brand himself, he is like, just look
Speaker 1: at how he carries himself. He's the cool guy. Cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think what separates Little Nosis and
Speaker 1: why it's not Sammy Davis Jr. And is closer to
Speaker 1: Burt Williams. Is Sammy Davis Jr. Still maintained class Sure,
Speaker 1: So sure's people who are like, ah, he too cool
Speaker 1: with the white folks. Are he way too But he
Speaker 1: still exusted. He still was classy, like Puff is classy.
Speaker 1: And at that time in history, like there was an
Speaker 1: assimilation movement kind of going on. It was like the
Speaker 1: MLK Civil rights movement of the sixties was let us integrate,
Speaker 1: let us be a part of the Communist Party of
Speaker 1: Society or economy, etcetera, etcetera. Etcetera. And he was kind
Speaker 1: of almost presenting an image of a generation into the future,
Speaker 1: so speak, and in that regard when that of it
Speaker 1: before Marluther King realized he was tripping by the end
Speaker 1: of his life and he was changed his mind. Um,
Speaker 1: and people people always forget that. They always talk about
Speaker 1: his I have a dream speech. But his views did
Speaker 1: change towards the end of his life because integration was
Speaker 1: never lose. That's a whole other thing. I don't want.
Speaker 1: It's still not the solution, but because I think people
Speaker 1: who want to live around each other ship and people
Speaker 1: who don't just don't. But this is the thing, right, Um,
Speaker 1: what makes him different than Sammy Davis Jr. He just
Speaker 1: don't have class. I mean he's not totally classless, but
Speaker 1: he's tongue in cheek all the way through. Sammy David Jr.
Speaker 1: Actually was like classy. Yeah, I mean we just looked
Speaker 1: at him a little crazy because he was always hanging
Speaker 1: with the white folks. But he was very much a
Speaker 1: classy act and and and a and a you know,
Speaker 1: a beacon of the future. Lettlensac is more Bert Williams
Speaker 1: because of that, because everything is overexaggerated at a time.
Speaker 1: She is one thing, just being at the moment. Elton
Speaker 1: John is gay, but he's not fucking corny. Oh, I
Speaker 1: would absolutely encourage you to go look at Elton John
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties. I watched John and I watched
Speaker 1: his outfits and everything. Okay, see, see it's a different
Speaker 1: It's a difference between being loud, right Is that just
Speaker 1: a preconception because he's white? Are you just racist against
Speaker 1: little nonsax because he's black doing this versus if he's
Speaker 1: white like Elton John doing this, it's okay because you
Speaker 1: perceive all white people to be gay. No, okay, what
Speaker 1: about like a Freddie Mercury for example, fucking fantastic Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do because it's not I won't
Speaker 1: even entertain the concepts of me hating homosexual people are
Speaker 1: being scared of. I'm not trying to go I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it has nothing to do with let's try to
Speaker 1: seek the best cop. Sure. Sure, I'm saying for his situation,
Speaker 1: he is kind of the first one at this level.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the way as far as as but
Speaker 1: the thing is all his ship lacks. So that's what
Speaker 1: we're not used to kind of like a musical route.
Speaker 1: Paul I would say, to an extent, in a sense,
Speaker 1: I thought he was a gay black weird Al Yankovic.
Speaker 1: That's fair because like his music is not really like weird.
Speaker 1: Our music wasn't digital, huh was original like Little Naza,
Speaker 1: It's not all his ship is not ultra original, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you gotta remember when Little Nasa first
Speaker 1: came in because he was selling us on the country Ship,
Speaker 1: and we got mad because we had a brother that
Speaker 1: did a dope song and we wanted them to exclude.
Speaker 1: We fought for him. Initially, it was like, how y'all
Speaker 1: going to exclude him out of the country ship. He
Speaker 1: has a country song, You got a rapper, y'all want
Speaker 1: to be included in this. So we wanted inclusion in that,
Speaker 1: so we all far from him. But what happened was
Speaker 1: when he got in front of the world, he started
Speaker 1: doing things that was tongue in cheek. Well, this first
Speaker 1: song was, but it was good though it was it
Speaker 1: was a song. It was because he wanted to make
Speaker 1: a country hit and he that that young man went
Speaker 1: in there and he made the best black country I
Speaker 1: have ever heard in my entire life of three. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe it's four. And I like Daddy Lessons too. That's
Speaker 1: a good country. So maybe so maybe like four songs,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not much to choose from that. True, but
Speaker 1: the point I'm saying is it must be talking about
Speaker 1: l a country. Huh No, it's black countrymen, black country.
Speaker 1: It's like four songs Texas. But but the point I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get lost like y'all with so No,
Speaker 1: it's not that I just think all this ship is
Speaker 1: tongue in cheat. It's like like it's all the stretches,
Speaker 1: all in exaggeration. The thing that make it decent is
Speaker 1: rooted in his real life. But the thing is, if
Speaker 1: you want to brand yourself as you know, because he's
Speaker 1: going out his way to ran himself as this gay,
Speaker 1: black you know artists. So when I'm tweeting him like or,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is asking for depth. See the thing
Speaker 1: that made Elton John Sam Smith, and I hate that
Speaker 1: they're all white, but its depth is depth to this
Speaker 1: answer the question, Sure, what the fuck is Sam Smith?
Speaker 1: I mean, Samuel Smith is a is a beer maker
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed, But that's Samuel Adams. No, Samuel Smith.
Speaker 1: Samuel Smith makes beer too, he makes better beer, and
Speaker 1: sam Adams not no, no, no. Trust me. It made
Speaker 1: me think of DAP is like Sammuel good motherfucking choice mother.
Speaker 1: That ship is bad ship. But listen, So the funny
Speaker 1: part is I'm saying he should just tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1: It lacks so and it's so weird there for us
Speaker 1: as black people to see somebody without because that's the
Speaker 1: whole pitome of the black Even even Michael Jackson, who
Speaker 1: was the king of pop, they say had soul, Prince
Speaker 1: had soul. The problem with this little dude stuff is
Speaker 1: there's no soul. That's what making corny. And the reason
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's a puppet for white supremacy and he's
Speaker 1: an entertainment piece like a puppet, fear me, and he's
Speaker 1: up there doing it and he's not really telling anybody
Speaker 1: the struggle of what it's like to be us and
Speaker 1: everybody don't have to don't get me wrong. It's it's
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Derulo makes pop music, you know. But
Speaker 1: again the problem is, Jason Derulo doesn't do anything to
Speaker 1: gain my attention, either I like his record or I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not a video where he's pushing forward. It's like
Speaker 1: little Nozex went out of his way to make sure
Speaker 1: I saw his video as a consumer. So my opinion
Speaker 1: on his content, on his brand, like I was asked,
Speaker 1: it's just what it is. It's again, it's like you
Speaker 1: can't criticize a person as a homosexual without being one,
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, well, you only don't like him
Speaker 1: because they're gay. Well it's not I don't like him.
Speaker 1: I think it should is just decent. I'm not impressed.
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen. It's nothing to do with
Speaker 1: he gay, because I can listen to Stay with Me
Speaker 1: a thousand times. I can listen to rocket Man a
Speaker 1: thousand times. I can listen to fucking Being in the
Speaker 1: Jetive thousand times. I can listen to the Old Town
Speaker 1: Road a thousand times. But the ship he's putting out now,
Speaker 1: it's just not as good as that. And that wasn't
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That lacks so so again
Speaker 1: for me to challenge it creatively. Sure, some people just
Speaker 1: don't agree. People just happy with what they get. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you like in Sync, I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 1: I just think all his ideas are in sync rewrapped
Speaker 1: in the black gay package, without the without the brilliance
Speaker 1: of Max Martin. An observation here on the parallel, just
Speaker 1: taking a step back, I'm looking at things from you know,
Speaker 1: a thousand feet so to speak, probably a lot higher
Speaker 1: than that. Um No, I'm not high. That's what I
Speaker 1: thought you were talking about. Unlike other individuals on the podcast,
Speaker 1: right now, you are right game whatever. After this, I'm
Speaker 1: a transition to King. I think he's thinking about that
Speaker 1: shower scene. I'm thinking about these levels. That's that's our
Speaker 1: consummate professional in the corner. Like the way with a video,
Speaker 1: the way that you perceive this video is not dissimilar
Speaker 1: to the way I saw a country when it first
Speaker 1: came out, and looking at it as far as like
Speaker 1: being a vehicle of white supremacy or a vehicle of
Speaker 1: like at least a greater like white power driven left
Speaker 1: wing political apparatus. It's, let's most kind of send a mole.
Speaker 1: There's an obvious antagonism towards masculinity in the country. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's particularly debatable at this point. Um sure,
Speaker 1: for the sake of art, at least I believe so yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's take a stab at the country music community,
Speaker 1: which is in our way. Wow, how we do that? Well,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of white straight men. Well, let's send
Speaker 1: a black gay man in there and and poke a
Speaker 1: hole in there and create rust and tarnish on the
Speaker 1: side of that wall. What's another group that stands in
Speaker 1: the way of this, Well, black straight man in the
Speaker 1: hip hop community boast masculinity at the highest level. Let's
Speaker 1: send this guy over there to go corrode that. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's a plant. I don't know. I'm like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not in the student of the guy.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the guy's life. I don't
Speaker 1: know what how much of his product is the root
Speaker 1: of his own mind and how much of it is
Speaker 1: just he's got enough talent to well, I see he's
Speaker 1: writing the videos, so he's definitely writing the treatment to
Speaker 1: the video, okay, which I believe genuinely he's making the
Speaker 1: songs based around the video ideas. Sure, and he might
Speaker 1: be definitely and and and maybe he independently is an
Speaker 1: activist mine who sits back and looks at it and goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know, these are hurdles to my viewpoint or my
Speaker 1: agenda or whatever. I'm gonna go make hit records that
Speaker 1: go polke holes in them. But to say that there's
Speaker 1: not a connection or parallel between the two is it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to ignore. I agree, country and hip
Speaker 1: hop definitely were the two most masculine genres of music
Speaker 1: for the last fifty years, for sure, and now that
Speaker 1: is pretty crazy. But I wouldn't consider him a hip
Speaker 1: hop product like he's a pop product. I think people
Speaker 1: naturally hear some moody rap wouldn't consider him a country automatically,
Speaker 1: but there he is. That's a good point. They did
Speaker 1: stuck him in there, and the boy did the joint
Speaker 1: with him, Billy Ray CRUs Yeah. Yeah, and then Billy
Speaker 1: Ray Citruses subsequent generational clone did the joint in this one.
Speaker 1: True Harlow. Yeah, that's a great point. I never thought
Speaker 1: about it. What did you think of the video? Okay,
Speaker 1: because you would only want to have us that's been
Speaker 1: a prison. I've been to jail a lot of time,
Speaker 1: probably close to ten time. I've never been a prison.
Speaker 1: I talked my happening that was happening in prison. No,
Speaker 1: that's not what happened in prison. He's just a bad
Speaker 1: role model, that's all. I don't know if he's a
Speaker 1: bad role model he is, because I just as far
Speaker 1: as that conversation, as much as I try to stay
Speaker 1: away from the gay conversation because honestly, I'm not educated
Speaker 1: on it enough, I understand actually what gay is. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard different tastes. Right, people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, kids could see that, And then I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: don't care how many gay men I've seen. I'm not
Speaker 1: fucking with no dude. You know you you really gotta
Speaker 1: be gay to be gay, I believe, but there is
Speaker 1: And somebody made a point to me because that that
Speaker 1: was my point. My debate was, I don't care how
Speaker 1: many kids you show a man fucking a man. It's
Speaker 1: a different commitment to take dick as. I don't think
Speaker 1: any issues something nobody. I get what you're saying as
Speaker 1: far as marketing, but I just type of you know, lifestyle,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't know if that really matters.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree that that matters. Like
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of black people this is
Speaker 1: probably where my opinion is different, where it's like I
Speaker 1: just think being gay is a real thing. That ain't
Speaker 1: like I mean for girls. Girls fleft the line all
Speaker 1: the time. For girls, Yeah, it's like it's no real
Speaker 1: consequence or they don't. They can't even I've had this.
Speaker 1: Women can't women just trying to get two Women can't
Speaker 1: even have sex, bro like based off what sex is
Speaker 1: for real intercourse like intercourse. Okay, you push my button now,
Speaker 1: Okay that thought I said. Women can't really do it
Speaker 1: so their idea of gay. But for a man to
Speaker 1: be a homosexual man or a bisexual man, yo, you
Speaker 1: have to commit to taking penis or giving penis to
Speaker 1: another man. And I just don't know. I don't care
Speaker 1: how much you show that two kids. I just don't.
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm looking at my own reference. I just
Speaker 1: don't imagine seeing it and be like, that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, Like maybe, I mean it can't be that.
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I disagree on that two points. And
Speaker 1: I'll preface it by saying, and I'm I'm even trying
Speaker 1: to genuflect, like my own personal pencils were all clear.
Speaker 1: I think if you want to be gay, that's great.
Speaker 1: I think that the fact that they're just like a
Speaker 1: bit of culture with trying to say everybody should like
Speaker 1: me as you know what, even like you if that's
Speaker 1: what makes you happy and a better person than please,
Speaker 1: but all means, and I'm with, I'm with the whole
Speaker 1: concept of nobody should have to like you. They just
Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to funk you up but do something
Speaker 1: to you or discriminate against you, exactly. And gay people
Speaker 1: do not need permission to exist, just like women do
Speaker 1: not need permission to exist. People do not need permission
Speaker 1: or do or anybody or any anybody on this earth.
Speaker 1: And I think that people go into a concept where
Speaker 1: they feel like they need permission and validation to exist.
Speaker 1: In my personal experience, I've dealt with that in the
Speaker 1: past and I overcome that to the sense of self
Speaker 1: acceptance is what matters. Do I like my art? I'm
Speaker 1: a creative as well. Do I like the art that
Speaker 1: I created? And if he's happy with his art, then kudos.
Speaker 1: But what I like about Glasses this point is that Glasses,
Speaker 1: you're saying he can do better, and so I think
Speaker 1: that that is great advice. And I'm going to agree
Speaker 1: with that that you can't do better If he wants to.
Speaker 1: If if Nasax wants to do better, then he will.
Speaker 1: And hopefully if he does want to, he has that
Speaker 1: advice from Glasses as the O g to give him
Speaker 1: that and then and when he makes that content, I'll
Speaker 1: be the first one to support it and say this
Speaker 1: is fire. Right. Thank you know, thank you for you know,
Speaker 1: taking the time to listen to my opinion so we
Speaker 1: know it has nothing to do with being gay. Good music, right,
Speaker 1: I think that ships long since sales. Okay, yeah, well
Speaker 1: I'm getting confused on the conversation. What we're talking about,
Speaker 1: little nas are gay acceptable? Not acceptable? Beautiful Prince is gay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Princess bisexual. Particularly every black person that hears his podcast
Speaker 1: is gonna argue me down. Prince was gay. So his
Speaker 1: prince was gay. He did really, really really reek of gay.
Speaker 1: His resume with women is unparallel. It's like talk about
Speaker 1: for you to me, gay and bisexual the same thing.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't want to It's like if you
Speaker 1: if you just yeah, it's not I don't want to
Speaker 1: sound uneducated on it. But if you need to add
Speaker 1: the extra numbers, fine, that's cool. Whatever. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if you're a man that sleep with a man, you're
Speaker 1: you're gay. And if you sleep with women too, you're
Speaker 1: a man, you're still gay. That's bi sexual. But but again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that because then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to argue with them about that whole thought.
Speaker 1: And that's the way. I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: do that set up. I don't want to because I
Speaker 1: have a different theory on that. Like, so that's just different.
Speaker 1: But what do you saying, I'm agree with you Pete
Speaker 1: and disagree with Glasses. Well, I'm saying, though I think
Speaker 1: people gay, I think there's really a lot of people
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be gay. But because the trend of being gay,
Speaker 1: it's just a weak minded thing. Because I know, for instance,
Speaker 1: I got a cousin he passed away Rest in peace
Speaker 1: because he wasn't from like my mom and my uncle
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he was like a step child. We
Speaker 1: treated them so bad and pushed them to the girls
Speaker 1: that he ended up being gay. But first he tried
Speaker 1: to play with us, but we kept saying, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you're too light. Skin did, yeah, you skin did, And
Speaker 1: we pushed them to the girls and we watched this
Speaker 1: because he tried to be around us running and stuff.
Speaker 1: But because we was like, oh, you're not really with us.
Speaker 1: You know, you could put somebody in taking penis ill
Speaker 1: people could be But you gotta remember, if you talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of gay people, they're gonna tell you
Speaker 1: how abused they was when they was young. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't say a lot stories. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of I heard a lot of stories,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to I'm going to speak and anybody
Speaker 1: want to say something to talk to me. Council culture,
Speaker 1: I'm with that. They tried to counsel me many times.
Speaker 1: Stop you every time you go to the WEK. Hey,
Speaker 1: they put me in prison twice and try to stop
Speaker 1: me sexuality and still didn't come out gay sexual I
Speaker 1: don't you think sexuality and psychology, Yes, it's definitely some.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a ton of mental aspects to it. There's
Speaker 1: there's there's two obvious components to it. I think in
Speaker 1: this context it is that my concern with the nature
Speaker 1: versus nurture argument on it is there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of it. Like you can go look through the research
Speaker 1: that is being done, and there is no shortage of
Speaker 1: funding for LGBT advocate. See right, you can go look
Speaker 1: up and down. There's not a lot of credible research
Speaker 1: labs that are doing real heavy lifting on examination of
Speaker 1: the human genome to determine the gay gene or anything
Speaker 1: like that that would suggest that you're born that way.
Speaker 1: And there are there is research being done on pediatric
Speaker 1: heart gene type, and that's genealogy. There is anything you
Speaker 1: can think of previous positions for. There is human genome
Speaker 1: testing and examination being done. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: credible human genome examination being done in that regard. So
Speaker 1: that kind of makes me feel like it's a lot
Speaker 1: more nurture than nature again whatever. Like like I said,
Speaker 1: I think that's really the debate nature versus nurture. Like
Speaker 1: somebody the sociopath or somebody the murderer. The psychology standpoint
Speaker 1: will be is a nature versus nurture in one with
Speaker 1: a lot of You can examine the physiology of the
Speaker 1: human brain and determine there's over over accentually there's chemical imbalances,
Speaker 1: or there's over accentuation of this portion of the humans
Speaker 1: brains anatomy or deficiency of development this portion of the anatomy.
Speaker 1: Whereas like in this regard. There's not anything that's that's
Speaker 1: substantive in that element. I do think it's probably more
Speaker 1: so on the nurture side. And again, like the simple
Speaker 1: fact we're having the conversation. To me, I think as
Speaker 1: a problem because it's like, if it whatever makes you
Speaker 1: a better happier person, going ahead and be a better
Speaker 1: happier person talking other people's lives up. It's just persistent,
Speaker 1: but demand. I understand what you're saying. But it's the professionals.
Speaker 1: Like I had a professor when I was locked up.
Speaker 1: I was going to school, college and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: was taking a psychology class. Yeah, they don't have it
Speaker 1: no more. Trust me, I'm the last of the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: But coming out its not coming back. I had a professor.
Speaker 1: It was a woman, and we got into it. Almost
Speaker 1: got kicked out her class because she was telling the
Speaker 1: people in the class, us all men, that it was
Speaker 1: okay in prison to take on a male and female
Speaker 1: role and then when you get out you just walk
Speaker 1: away from and not being gay. I said, that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: And so when you got professors and teachers, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you got when you got professional teachers psychologists telling inmates
Speaker 1: it's okay for you to be a woman, and it's
Speaker 1: okay for you to be a man and have a relationship.
Speaker 1: But when you get out, you guys gonna go back
Speaker 1: to being men. And I'm saying that's bullshit butt, But
Speaker 1: but you're telling these people something that's in your mind.
Speaker 1: It's okay in my mind. Two guys, fucking it's not okay.
Speaker 1: Let's say no, no, no, no, but it's but no, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be my take. It's not okay
Speaker 1: to me, but just listen, but just listen. But I'm
Speaker 1: not homophoonon and the reason, okay, So the reason that's
Speaker 1: just a weird Why is it not okay to you?
Speaker 1: Why is it not okay to me? Because I don't
Speaker 1: think as a man. I was built to another man.
Speaker 1: But that's how you were built, Yeah, I think. But well,
Speaker 1: dicks right? You like hold? Do you like Fords? What cars?
Speaker 1: I'm like cars? I think no human beings should drive forwards.
Speaker 1: I'm a Chevy Man, mom love for it. But that
Speaker 1: don't bother me. Somebody don't want to drive a Forward
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm saying. Imagine me saying, because
Speaker 1: I'm a Chevy Man, nobody, no that's not that's not
Speaker 1: even the same. That's not even the same. You're stretch
Speaker 1: You're stretching on something mechanical and man made in preferences
Speaker 1: to something that you like, you say it was born
Speaker 1: and saying that's from nature. So you talked about something
Speaker 1: different like fish. Yeah, you know, no, that's something different.
Speaker 1: Let's suppose hypothe for the sake of conversation. That is
Speaker 1: totally fine, And that's okay just to attack the person
Speaker 1: teaching that class in college because professors I love attacking.
Speaker 1: Don't give I'll bring around here tomorrow. She was really
Speaker 1: to me, She was really to me. She was really
Speaker 1: stopping to me, telling the people, stopping life itself. You know,
Speaker 1: we uh post procreate, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: a man and man can't procreate? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: that with men and wear condoms? Can a man wear
Speaker 1: a condom? Say? Do you feel the same way about
Speaker 1: me and wearing man who pulls out early and runs
Speaker 1: to Here's how I feel, That's how I had, that's
Speaker 1: how I finished. Here's how I feel about that. If
Speaker 1: you can't, if you can't afford to have kids, then
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have kids. And so if pulling out wearing
Speaker 1: a condom is going to stop you from having kids.
Speaker 1: You can't take care of them. That's the smartest thing
Speaker 1: to do. Then what do you say about in who
Speaker 1: just But again, if the conversation is I look at
Speaker 1: men who don't use cal like damn niggas tripping but
Speaker 1: out here like that. But if the conversation, but if
Speaker 1: the conversation is rooted in because it's unnatural like you're saying,
Speaker 1: or you're saying because it's pro life than anything, that's
Speaker 1: anything that should offend you just as much, because sex
Speaker 1: would be probably in that category oral sex. Yeah, not sex,
Speaker 1: it's not life. Pussy up what you mean? I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So that even though that's unnatural? Right and what not?
Speaker 1: But wait? Wait, why is that that's two lips and
Speaker 1: lips isn't unnatural? Alright? I'm okay, what about a penis?
Speaker 1: What about getting head from a girl? There ain't two
Speaker 1: lifts and lips in Okay, Now that's another story. So
Speaker 1: do you feel that's unnatural? Do you look down that
Speaker 1: they did? I did at one time, and then I
Speaker 1: changed my mind. So what if you knocked down something,
Speaker 1: man and you liked it? No? I haven't knocked down
Speaker 1: on man's not what I said. No, but you you
Speaker 1: were saying if you did, and I can't say I
Speaker 1: would because I haven't. But you changed your mind on
Speaker 1: head because it felt good. No, I turned my mom
Speaker 1: here because I got circumcised when I was later and
Speaker 1: I said, well, this is a different feeling. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying I was like, this is nice. Yeah, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh this is nice. So then where do you tell
Speaker 1: a game no good? Now, I can't tell another game
Speaker 1: man what he feels like. Okay, but I'm not a
Speaker 1: game man. I tell you. I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: a game dude sucking my dick would feel and how
Speaker 1: I feel A question real quick, and at least this
Speaker 1: is going off trail face. The professor said, if you're
Speaker 1: you could be like a like take on the persona
Speaker 1: of a female, like a relationship a man and woman.
Speaker 1: Leave it, doesn't you don't carry it with you. No,
Speaker 1: they don't care what They'll be straight. They will never
Speaker 1: mess around and do ten and you walk out at
Speaker 1: thirty and you did nine and a half. In that way,
Speaker 1: do you think, in the practical application of that theory
Speaker 1: that a person can walk out of there and actually
Speaker 1: not carry that with them. No, I don't. I think.
Speaker 1: I think if you was gay, if you was gay
Speaker 1: in there and living a life like that, when you
Speaker 1: think nobody's looking and drunk or something out here, you're
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. Especially when you look
Speaker 1: at the transgender people now that look like women. You
Speaker 1: think they're gonna stop after they say, oh, you feel
Speaker 1: so good and then the dick pop out, they're gonna stop. No,
Speaker 1: They're gonna probably keep going what what because they probably
Speaker 1: because they was used to sucking dudes in prison with dicks.
Speaker 1: So if they come out hearing me what they think
Speaker 1: is a woman and say, oh, yeah, I'm a knocker down,
Speaker 1: then find that at the end, oh she got the dick.
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna stop if they was hitting them prison.
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you was hitting in prison, if yeah,
Speaker 1: just to say if you yeah, if you get if
Speaker 1: you're hitting in prison, you're not going to stop because
Speaker 1: situations like that is what happens. Now. I'm saying, what,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you're not ahead like in the event,
Speaker 1: this is an extraordinarily hypothetical scenario because it's very difficult
Speaker 1: for this to happen. I'm sure it's happened. Though. If
Speaker 1: you're say you're married, you are married at two, you
Speaker 1: get locked up with twenty five, you're a female partner inside,
Speaker 1: and the sexual relationship to your thirty five when you
Speaker 1: are released and you go back to your marriage because
Speaker 1: you're not fucking then a man at that point, you're
Speaker 1: getting sucked by man that the man is. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: female partner in the relationship that you're professor describes leaving
Speaker 1: them and going back to the relationship they were in
Speaker 1: prior to incarceration. And there's not going to be some
Speaker 1: sort of issue there. It is because let me tell
Speaker 1: you some of the stories, because you know, I messed
Speaker 1: with a lot of girls and stuff before stuff and
Speaker 1: some of the stories they're telling about guys now, some
Speaker 1: of the stories they tell me about God, not guys Nowadays.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys like they have ships stuck
Speaker 1: in their But this is what a lot of girls
Speaker 1: tell me. Okay, I can't say a lot, but you
Speaker 1: know a lot. You know, I messed with strippers, I
Speaker 1: messed with all kinds of people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And the stories and so the stories that they tell me.
Speaker 1: The people nowadays are going in that direction because look
Speaker 1: at the trend is saying it's okay to be games,
Speaker 1: okay to be open. You know what, I can't stay myself.
Speaker 1: I took years trying to learn phonics and all that
Speaker 1: and with nouns and pronouns. Is now you want me
Speaker 1: to tell the motherfucker by a pro Now call them
Speaker 1: them and in him. And it's like, that's what you
Speaker 1: gotta do now to transgender people, they don't want you
Speaker 1: to call them her or you gotta use them in
Speaker 1: because but I don't get it because now you're teaching
Speaker 1: us bad language. It's not bad, it is bad language.
Speaker 1: So what they're saying, it's just like how they nuances.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like how they talked about Christopher Columbius. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: what they talked about Christopher Lumbia is discovered America. No,
Speaker 1: that has never taught me that, But that was the concept. Well,
Speaker 1: you never accepted that they might have tried to teach you.
Speaker 1: You did not accept that learning is like it's something
Speaker 1: the pronoun is. The purpose of the pronoun in the
Speaker 1: English language is to not have to know everyone's specific name.
Speaker 1: But this is gated or is it it's gender related? Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's that they're using as gender name everyone's
Speaker 1: specific name. And there are two genders of the pronouns.
Speaker 1: So now if you have to know everyone's specific pronoun,
Speaker 1: it defeats the purpose of not having to know everyone's
Speaker 1: specific name. You might as well just know everyone's specific name.
Speaker 1: At that point, everyone's just actually, but you don't know
Speaker 1: what everybody's gender is no more, and you don't have
Speaker 1: to use their name at all times, and you know
Speaker 1: that's great. I don't personally like when we will use
Speaker 1: my name. It makes me very uncomfortable. I'd rather get
Speaker 1: her off the show now out. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll take anything besides the first name for me.
Speaker 1: But if the next person likes, whatever, the hell. I
Speaker 1: don't know. If somebody comes, if somebody come to me
Speaker 1: saying him, I'm looking at like him, you're talking to me,
Speaker 1: you're calling me him, that's how I'm a react, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, that's great, just say yeah, he did that,
Speaker 1: Peter did that. No, because he did that, maybe there's
Speaker 1: some you mean him him did that? Now he him
Speaker 1: did that. That's specific in the court of law. But
Speaker 1: going back to what you were saying, Um, you're right,
Speaker 1: man is not gonna mess with another man in the end.
Speaker 1: Well that's that. But that's all we're talking about about.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to get into this whole conversation
Speaker 1: because this this whole conversation got so many subdual curves
Speaker 1: and turns, and it's controversial. But I can speak, I
Speaker 1: could speak on that. I'm not really worried about the
Speaker 1: polarity of it. I'm just saying it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: have any statistic studies. I just know for myself, like
Speaker 1: I just don't believe, and then y'all make it some points.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe you could just be gay as
Speaker 1: a man. I think it's I think it's really a choice.
Speaker 1: I think it's a choice because I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: my scenario. You're gay, you really probably are gay. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't think you could just like
Speaker 1: be partially gay. I think the pressure there there's some
Speaker 1: Rick James, I didn't put my fear in this couch, y'all,
Speaker 1: this couch kind of there with the way you said that,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can just be gay. And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be gay. You gotta just be gay. Like
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm sorry. So I'm not getting
Speaker 1: out my thoughts. Gay ain't something you play with. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't play gay. Can't tell my story, don't care?
Speaker 1: Yes not dog To take penis as a man or
Speaker 1: give penis to another man, it's a different commitment. It
Speaker 1: requires you to have some even if you don't have
Speaker 1: the conversations with nobody else, the conversations you gotta have
Speaker 1: with yourself is what. Really? Can I speak on this?
Speaker 1: I'm ready to speak now, can't speak on this? Okay.
Speaker 1: When I was locked up for a while facing murder
Speaker 1: and the people I was in there already done prison
Speaker 1: time and all that, and they was telling me, you've
Speaker 1: got life sentence coming, so you ain't never seen pussy
Speaker 1: ever again. So you might as to start this thinking
Speaker 1: about sucking boys and ship up in there. So in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know, I'm already disconnecting to the world outside.
Speaker 1: You know, my girl left me, nobody's visiting me. You know,
Speaker 1: my whole world is becoming prison and so just what
Speaker 1: that pressure had me thinking about it, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're writing stuff. Maybe you know, I'll never get out,
Speaker 1: but I want to be a prisoner, and this is
Speaker 1: what prisoners do, you know, this is what it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like. And so dude, they was like this
Speaker 1: gay dude was in there, and they was like, okay,
Speaker 1: he'll suck your dick because you know, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: get my dicks up. And there was like he's cool
Speaker 1: with it, he said, and suck your dick. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, yeah, man, it's crazy. Well that's a
Speaker 1: whole another story that I want to tell you how
Speaker 1: it came out that Okay, here's what happens. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: I'll make here's the truth. We'll be playing cards. This
Speaker 1: dude has some feminine ways, you know, and we'd be
Speaker 1: playing cards and he had just girl ways. So one day,
Speaker 1: me and my partner was just sitting around and when
Speaker 1: I said, messed with the girl that was transgender. We're
Speaker 1: sitting around, said let's go scare such and such upstairs,
Speaker 1: like just act like we gonna rape them. So okay,
Speaker 1: let's go scare him, you know. So we go up
Speaker 1: there to scare him because and we grab them and
Speaker 1: my partners start really pulling this pass down and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like whoa you know, but now
Speaker 1: like Ship, I'm in the middle of a right now.
Speaker 1: But dude, yeah, no, what you do pull this pan
Speaker 1: and put this dick out. I was like, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, no, I'm thinking now.
Speaker 1: I thought we was going up through a scare and
Speaker 1: playwood scare him like we gonna teach, you know. He
Speaker 1: was taking it to the next level like he really
Speaker 1: like I grabbed by show. But dude, this how God works.
Speaker 1: Dude said, oh no, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: You should have just asked. I was like, oh, thank god.
Speaker 1: I was like thank god. You know what sounds like,
Speaker 1: thank god because I didn't. I didn't expect that to happen.
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna scare because he kind of soft,
Speaker 1: you know, like they will get your ship right. But
Speaker 1: no that it was really going to rape dude. But
Speaker 1: do said no, man, no you don't have you just
Speaker 1: have to ask. It's okay. You know I'm gay, you know.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Ship, thank you God because no
Speaker 1: rape case. So that's how we found out dude was gay,
Speaker 1: you know what saying. That's how we found to do
Speaker 1: this guy. So dude was like, oh yeah, I'll suck
Speaker 1: your dick. So so this went over a whole month period. Now,
Speaker 1: so the first time, I was supposed to go up
Speaker 1: to his room and get my dick suck. So I
Speaker 1: smoke it some weed. I go up to his room.
Speaker 1: I walked in the door. Do the see there? Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on. I walked in there and I looked. It
Speaker 1: was a black dude. I walked in there. He had
Speaker 1: a full beard on it. I just looked and just
Speaker 1: turned around and left. Say so I went back and
Speaker 1: I said, man, dude, I can't do this. Man, this
Speaker 1: dude got a full beard. He said, okay, well, you know,
Speaker 1: just relax and stuff. It's okay. Somebody else, no, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, we're doing I'm saving this beard to try
Speaker 1: to you know, because I'm fresh meat, like I'm I've
Speaker 1: never I'm fresh meat. I've never done this. So the
Speaker 1: second time, do said, no, I met. What you do
Speaker 1: is you stay in your room and you look at
Speaker 1: some magazines and stuff, and you know, because I have
Speaker 1: porn on Max, and then you have do come in
Speaker 1: because you're all ready to go and stuff. I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm in my room looking at my baby. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I say. It's a choice. It's a choice.
Speaker 1: I was trying. I was trying to I was trying
Speaker 1: to be gay or fit in or gay whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to be gay. So dude, dude, come in, dude,
Speaker 1: come in, and I just like, and do. He said,
Speaker 1: you've never done this before. I was like, nah, I've
Speaker 1: never done this before. And now I'm standing up with
Speaker 1: my knees not knee toads curl then feeling in my
Speaker 1: fingers looking down at the ground. I feel like the
Speaker 1: punk now because he's you know, he's he's calling me
Speaker 1: out now, like you've never done this before. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what, gay man calling me out like? You know.
Speaker 1: I was like nah, But he said something to me
Speaker 1: that I know that like you said, you have to
Speaker 1: be gay inside because he said something to me that
Speaker 1: stuck with me through my whole time in prison. He said,
Speaker 1: if you never done this, don't ever start. This is
Speaker 1: what the gay dude told me. But that made me
Speaker 1: think he wasn't happy being gay. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He it wasn't happy. So he's telling me, don't you
Speaker 1: ever start? Because I went to prison and became gay,
Speaker 1: and so he's telling me. And so from that point on,
Speaker 1: I knew that you could. You don't have the fund
Speaker 1: dudes in prison to make it because I was forcing myself.
Speaker 1: I was forcing myself to trying to fit in, and
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't me, though. But it just
Speaker 1: wasn't me. It's really my point, my mental state though,
Speaker 1: and this is mental is my point, Pete like, and
Speaker 1: this is that goes back to the point I was
Speaker 1: agree with you some people, but that's what some people
Speaker 1: choose to be. To be gay is a different commitment
Speaker 1: like you have. It's not something you can play with.
Speaker 1: You don't dabble in and out come out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like whatever is there, that ship is there, you
Speaker 1: feel me. So even if whether it came from MAC
Speaker 1: that way or the operating system got corrupted, I mean
Speaker 1: to make it function different than than than than how
Speaker 1: I function. You feel me is different. But but I've
Speaker 1: said this a lot of times about men who, like
Speaker 1: most men who enjoy here too much. That's a mental thing.
Speaker 1: Something is up with your mind that I was telling
Speaker 1: me that, I'm like, bro, you you way too on
Speaker 1: your old lady about getting head like and she gives
Speaker 1: you pussies, Like, I get it if you like it,
Speaker 1: but I'm really think it's about some man dominating. So
Speaker 1: but that in and of itself is the psychology that
Speaker 1: the predicated psychology is in nature nurture question in and
Speaker 1: of its own. Sure, So like that that was kind
Speaker 1: of the point I was getting, like, like, maybe you
Speaker 1: know your path to that day and the other gentleman's
Speaker 1: path to that day are different, and what may have happened.
Speaker 1: I've seen people break. I've seen dudes that was hard
Speaker 1: going your embraced. There was a break on my junior
Speaker 1: college track team who who I didn't notice. I thought
Speaker 1: he was like an angry off black militant dude from
Speaker 1: Riverside who was just angry all the time and really
Speaker 1: really really fast and strong and he and he was
Speaker 1: like had a real problem with me. And one of
Speaker 1: the guys that I knew from like a whole another
Speaker 1: area from like high school track was like, Hey, it's
Speaker 1: the gay dude running today, and I'm like, we don't
Speaker 1: have a gay dude. Yeah, the fast guy, I'm like him.
Speaker 1: I'm like Terry Crews over the area, not like he
Speaker 1: just Jack like big, like angry, brooding dude. And I'm
Speaker 1: and it turns out like I knew a lot of
Speaker 1: people from his high school, and I guess he got
Speaker 1: put into um like juvenile when he was in middle
Speaker 1: school or earlier high school and and got you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So subsequently he was he was gay afterwards and had
Speaker 1: a lot of ultimately, we we we were cool. We
Speaker 1: had a pretty decent friendship from me. He subsequently committed suicide. So,
Speaker 1: you know, sorry for Anthony, God bless you. Um, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting to me. I look at
Speaker 1: it as like I don't know the psychology world that much,
Speaker 1: and the psychology, even in the study world, is very abstract.
Speaker 1: You know, I can bring one on the well. I'm curious, doctor,
Speaker 1: I'm curious like you. I would like to hear people
Speaker 1: that say that they was born gay, you know, talk,
Speaker 1: because everybody I see always talked about a story happened
Speaker 1: to an m R. You know, their mom's Keith. Keith
Speaker 1: taught me Keith Brown, my boy, Keith, they should do
Speaker 1: all the videos at Universal and stuff. He told me
Speaker 1: he was born He said he never like girls. You
Speaker 1: never seen girls and thought they was attractive. For me,
Speaker 1: I'll act like, are you from a mom that were
Speaker 1: you had your sisters? Are you know things? I started
Speaker 1: asking those questions active committing to take peters I do
Speaker 1: because how many girls you been around? How then if
Speaker 1: you act like a woman, Because I think it's plays
Speaker 1: on weak minded people. I think it really attacks weak
Speaker 1: minded people that came into the pressure. That's president. You
Speaker 1: have to understand that there's a difference in the concept
Speaker 1: of sexuality and gender. So we will have that discussion
Speaker 1: and table that because that is a very important discussion.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good point because professional here
Speaker 1: that can really kind of guide and steer the conversation.
Speaker 1: That a lot of health and I'll be honest, a
Speaker 1: lot of that pseudoscience anyway, casional with the PhD. And
Speaker 1: they're going to point to a lot of stuff as well.
Speaker 1: They go go to a book. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: serious science. So you can bring in a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff and say, well, based off of this their personal
Speaker 1: experience because they look at the research and is but
Speaker 1: the research is pseudoscience, is my point. So I got
Speaker 1: to figure out what pseudoscience means. Means it means it's
Speaker 1: no ceilings, is my experts. But they say I believe,
Speaker 1: I don't do I genuinely some people were born okay,
Speaker 1: I believe that, right, that's obvious. Like I know some
Speaker 1: people were born gay. I was not born. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: you're not get your girl. You can't even be gay, bro,
Speaker 1: it's not even possib you can't. A woman can't be
Speaker 1: gay like a lesbian. Is that they have a different
Speaker 1: type because they're a lesbian, you're not gay like talent
Speaker 1: or a fingertown who doesn't think a woman is awesome? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Can we do a hand clap for that? No. Sexually,
Speaker 1: women that want to be men don't think women is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. The copying is a flattery or whatever.
Speaker 1: Copy so they might admire men, but that don't mean that. Again,
Speaker 1: this is a whole another conversation because this could going
Speaker 1: to a whole nothing. What I don't want to do
Speaker 1: is spending too a whole bunch of ship because they're
Speaker 1: already gonna be talking ship because KINGO doot, there's there's
Speaker 1: about eight minutes of my but I'd like to I
Speaker 1: like to crop out of this well. We got we
Speaker 1: got about five more minutes, about sixty minutes. I just
Speaker 1: it's been sixty already, its minutes been rolling. We want along, Oh,
Speaker 1: what's I don't know. I don't really edit like that.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's just yeah. But my thing is,
Speaker 1: I don't know as far as little nobjects back to
Speaker 1: the original point, it's like, again, because of my criticism
Speaker 1: for him, it immediately he was above criticism because he
Speaker 1: was a homosexual. If I'm not a homosexual, I can't
Speaker 1: criticize it. That almost. I wonder if this is how
Speaker 1: white people feel when they're critical of black person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, which I've never agreed with that, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're critical, you're just critical. I mean, like, and
Speaker 1: to disregard somebody's criticism when it's not rooted in the
Speaker 1: particular topic, it's just intellectually lazy and it's and it's problematic.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I've always kind of like to think
Speaker 1: that that's about what you're making out on my whole podcast.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're not black, you can't talk about
Speaker 1: you can't provide an honest criticism to something that's going
Speaker 1: on in Black America. Well if you because you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't have the personally, I mean, you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, because you don't need permission to. Would
Speaker 1: you be able to give a realistic yes, how it
Speaker 1: feels black if you work with coke or so, let's
Speaker 1: sell you, let's sell It's still limited, though, I see
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because I do think you have some
Speaker 1: general and genuine concepts. But I keep telling you it's
Speaker 1: like nuances that you really kind of. It's tough to
Speaker 1: give credis too, because but I do I definitely, but
Speaker 1: excuse me, never and definitely I have never, definitely not
Speaker 1: respected your opinion or try to censor your opinion. But
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the criticism of it whatever it is, right,
Speaker 1: if you're critical of it, I have it because I
Speaker 1: have to listen to know what you're thinking. But I
Speaker 1: do think So. I was talking to my boy j
Speaker 1: right j B cutting my hair and he was asking
Speaker 1: me about like he asked me a question to me
Speaker 1: that felt crazy, but I knew it was coming from
Speaker 1: a genuine space. So I answer this question. He said, Hey,
Speaker 1: gee man, he said, honestly, can I just be honest
Speaker 1: with you? I said, He said, yeah, I looked out
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. I know a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Um Jay said, he said, man, I hooked people up
Speaker 1: and every time they would give a brother from around
Speaker 1: the way a brick, right, they were messing up like
Speaker 1: it was always something he said like that don't make
Speaker 1: sense because it's not a part of the coach. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is where it is, and this is why
Speaker 1: it's important. Like right, if you think somebody's a homophone,
Speaker 1: if you think somebody's are transferred to talk to them
Speaker 1: and asked them the question. Everybody is not intelligent enough
Speaker 1: to have the conversation. That's another thing. You have to
Speaker 1: be our ticking it. So like when you asked me that,
Speaker 1: I said, this is what it is. I said, you're
Speaker 1: talking about people would like from a converse, very poor
Speaker 1: mind state and the poor being. I said, but more
Speaker 1: than anything, you're asking someone to start a business. And
Speaker 1: I said, if you give of America a business to
Speaker 1: start and you don't watch over it, they all failed.
Speaker 1: Selling dope is an independently owned business. It's not like
Speaker 1: I told him that the same person you feel if
Speaker 1: I took him the gym and they showed him the job,
Speaker 1: they'd be there every day on the time. That make
Speaker 1: the best out of the situation. But to give people
Speaker 1: the opportunity to start a business is a different conversation.
Speaker 1: And after I explained it to him and I and
Speaker 1: I explained it, he kind of got what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it that it feels like it
Speaker 1: should be natural for us, which is probably some biggest,
Speaker 1: biggestry that ship. I said, but everybody from where we're
Speaker 1: from is not a d boy. Because a dee boy
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good business man, real one. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great at business. He's gonna be a diplomat.
Speaker 1: It's a few things I can tell you every d
Speaker 1: boy is gonna be if they're successful at it. So
Speaker 1: back to the point, instead of people attacking, like even
Speaker 1: with the baby like in his whole thing, he didn't
Speaker 1: apologize one thousand, two hundred and seventy six times. My
Speaker 1: issue even with his conversation is the AIDS part. It
Speaker 1: could have been considered ignorant. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: meant AIDS, if you have AIDS, you dine to three weeks,
Speaker 1: or if he was just referencing if you don't have
Speaker 1: AIDS or some disease where you dine to three weeks.
Speaker 1: That could be COVID Um, I wouldn't be upset if
Speaker 1: I went to an Elton John concert and he'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know if you are, if you suck dig here,
Speaker 1: make noise, I wouldn't feel excluded. I'd be just waiting
Speaker 1: on Bennie and the Jets. I just wouldn't make noise
Speaker 1: that time. I was gonna say, would you make the noise?
Speaker 1: Though I'm just saying no because I don't sug so.
Speaker 1: I don't know why is it in America? Right? It's
Speaker 1: this concept of inclusion that everybody's desperate for inclusion. All
Speaker 1: I don't want is all I don't want is discrimination.
Speaker 1: Fuck the inclusion. You gotta include me, and nothing got me,
Speaker 1: just don't get in my way. And I think with
Speaker 1: little Nozaks again is back to that point. And the
Speaker 1: more I think about it, and I further th thought,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking about this content that I've consume, the
Speaker 1: songs I've listened to, it's weird for me to watch
Speaker 1: a black person who lacks soul. His music lacks soul,
Speaker 1: everything about it lacks soul. Hince what I'm saying, he's corny, right,
Speaker 1: the whole point of him being you know, a puppet, right,
Speaker 1: like a puppet for entertainment, like a muppet baby for
Speaker 1: white supremacist because that's his music sonically, is for pop people.
Speaker 1: He's not making urban jams for us. It ain't like
Speaker 1: he's trying to push it onto black people. That ship
Speaker 1: is pop music. That ship is for mainstream America, who
Speaker 1: the majority of that population is made up of a
Speaker 1: d seven percent white folks who really want to listen
Speaker 1: to it and enjoy it because they feel really really
Speaker 1: good about themselves for enjoying a gay, black male artist's song.
Speaker 1: They really feel good about themselves when they get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that. Watch up this Glasses Malone. This
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Speaker 1: Underscore Boss. Yeah, I like you. Okay, I'll have to
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