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Speaker 2: Welcome in episode one sixty. What's Right with Nick Right?
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Speaker 2: Diora is not here today, still doing graduation related revelry.
Speaker 2: So she is out today. It is me solo once again.
Speaker 2: But we have a ton to get to, so let's
Speaker 2: get right to it. Here is what did not make
Speaker 2: the cut for today's show. Wimby signing a Spurs jersey
Speaker 2: even though he's yet to be drafted. That didn't make
Speaker 2: the show. Jokic makes it back to Serbia in time
Speaker 2: for to see his horse race. And I don't know
Speaker 2: what this last thing is. It just says on the
Speaker 2: screen two normal guys doing normal stuff. I assume, Oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that's what it was gonna be. It's
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and Aaron Rodgers hanging out, working out together.
Speaker 2: So I have a theory on this, and then we'll
Speaker 2: get to the actual show, should I. Yeah, I'll say it.
Speaker 2: There used to be our younger listeners or viewers might
Speaker 2: not know this, but Jim Rome when I was a
Speaker 2: teenager and into my early twenties, certainly when I was
Speaker 2: a teen, when I was driving around door to door
Speaker 2: selling stakes, Jim Rome was the biggest sports radio guy
Speaker 2: in the world. Made tens of millions of dollars, was
Speaker 2: on three hundred plus stations. It kind of reinvented the
Speaker 2: format took what Mike and the Mad Dog created and
Speaker 2: turned it into the Jungle and the Clones and live shows.
Speaker 2: So many of us oh so much to Jim Rome,
Speaker 2: and when he was off, typically his fill ins were
Speaker 2: just objectively bad. Now I say this as someone that
Speaker 2: once filled in for Jim Room. Okay, so I'm not
Speaker 2: throwing stones, and I don't know if this is the
Speaker 2: truth or not, but it was a I just remember
Speaker 2: it being a theory growing up that Rome would have
Speaker 2: those people fill in because it made him look even
Speaker 2: better in comparison, and it made the audience miss him
Speaker 2: more when he was gone. So why am I telling
Speaker 2: that twenty year old twenty five year old anecdote. My
Speaker 2: theory to Kevin Durant, who's a little odd choosing to
Speaker 2: hang out with Aaron Rodgers is that he then becomes
Speaker 2: far and away the most sane, normal guy in the crew.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you guys think I'm a little weird, Well,
Speaker 2: why don't I bring my Kim Trails anti vax ayahuasca drinken.
Speaker 2: You gotta FaceTime me buddy to come hang out, And
Speaker 2: then you might be like, oh, kd little odd social
Speaker 2: media stuff. But aside from that pretty chill guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: now to the actual show. Diora normally would read these questions,
Speaker 2: I will Bradley Beal's going to Phoenix, and the producer's right.
Speaker 2: Everyone's clowning on the Suns forgetting Beal, But they got
Speaker 2: an All Star for a sandwich. Who cares about cap
Speaker 2: space if it nets them a title? All right? That
Speaker 2: is right and wrong there, It is correct, who cares
Speaker 2: about cap space if it nets them a title? The
Speaker 2: problem is this, I do know. I feel this makes
Speaker 2: the I know this doesn't make the Suns the favorites.
Speaker 2: I don't feel it puts them in the top four
Speaker 2: contenders going into next season. I think the Nuggets, the Bucks,
Speaker 2: the Celtics, the Lakers all have to be ahead of them.
Speaker 2: We'll see what the Heat do. We'll see what the
Speaker 2: Sixers do. The Sixers I'm more skeptical of. At best.
Speaker 2: I think this puts them fifth or sixth. So you're right,
Speaker 2: who cares about cap space if it nets them a title?
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't, they are as locked in and
Speaker 2: as handcuffed as any team in recent memory. And it
Speaker 2: was not, in my opinion, the best use of the
Speaker 2: asset of chrisp contract what they needed. So let me
Speaker 2: talk about what I think they needed. Then I'll discuss
Speaker 2: why this locks them in, because I don't think a
Speaker 2: lot of the audience understandably is fully versed on the
Speaker 2: new CBA that kicks in in eleven days. So why
Speaker 2: I What I think they needed was versatile, durable players.
Speaker 2: They needed depth. Your scoring is taken care of with
Speaker 2: KD and Booker. What you need is guys who can
Speaker 2: play playoff minutes, So those guys aren't to play forty
Speaker 2: five minutes a night, switch defensively, and play a lot
Speaker 2: in the regular season. I don't apologize for my voice.
Speaker 2: I'll try to fix it instead. You got a poor
Speaker 2: man's version of Devin Booker when you already have a
Speaker 2: rich man's Devin Booker, the actual Devin Booker, who the
Speaker 2: last few years has not been as efficient and has
Speaker 2: started to become injury prone for a team that cannot
Speaker 2: handle more injury issues. Durant post Achilles has played thirty
Speaker 2: five games fifty five games forty seven games. Booker had
Speaker 2: been very durable throughout his career, but well pretty durable
Speaker 2: throughout his career. Booker last year fifty three games, and
Speaker 2: then Bradley Beal had back to back eighty two game
Speaker 2: seasons since then, fifty seven sixty, forty fifty. So that
Speaker 2: is a concern. Durant turning thirty five, Beal being what
Speaker 2: I would consider an old thirty having been in the
Speaker 2: league since nineteen, that's a bit of a concern. The
Speaker 2: salary stuff is kind of outrageous. And so let me
Speaker 2: give you what I mean by that. Next year, Kevin
Speaker 2: Durant is the second highest paid guy in the league,
Speaker 2: Bradley Beal is the sixth highest paid guy in the league.
Speaker 2: The year after that. In so the season after next,
Speaker 2: Durant is number two, Beal is number six, Booker is
Speaker 2: number seven. The year after that, Durant is number three,
Speaker 2: Booker is number six, Beal is number eight. So this
Speaker 2: is your team. You are going to have no flexibility whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And here is where the now listen. You can trade
Speaker 2: Aighton and try to get some of those pieces for him,
Speaker 2: But with the Nuggets winning the title, if you are
Speaker 2: trying to win the title, certainly if you are trying
Speaker 2: to win the West, you have to do everything with
Speaker 2: an eye on what are we going to be able
Speaker 2: to do against the Nuggets, Nikola Jokic specifically. You then
Speaker 2: add to it the new CBA. So here is the
Speaker 2: very cursory version of it. So you have your salary cap.
Speaker 2: You then have the luxury tax number. You then have
Speaker 2: and this is the phrase you keep hearing on podcasts
Speaker 2: and on smart NBA shows, the second apron. If you
Speaker 2: go above the second apron, your ability to build out
Speaker 2: a roster is kneecapped. The Suns, by definition, with these
Speaker 2: three guys on the roster are going to be above
Speaker 2: the second apron. So what does that mean? Among other things,
Speaker 2: you cannot combine salaries in a trade. So let's say
Speaker 2: in a year, Durant is like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: actually don't want to be here. I'm making fifty million
Speaker 2: bucks and I want to go play somewhere else. In
Speaker 2: the past, you could trade Durant for a twenty million
Speaker 2: dollar player, a twenty million dollar player, a ten million
Speaker 2: dollar player. What the Sun and some draft picks, what
Speaker 2: the Sons did to get him will send you McHale
Speaker 2: Bridges and Cam Johnson, et cetera. If you are a
Speaker 2: second apron team, you can't you cannot do that. You
Speaker 2: want to trade Kevin Durant. You gotta trade him for
Speaker 2: someone making his money, which makes him untradeable because who
Speaker 2: is making his money next year? The following people they're
Speaker 2: you know, within his money. Staph embiid Lebron Joker Beale,
Speaker 2: who's on his team, Karl Anthony Towns, Booker who's on
Speaker 2: his team, Jimmy Butler, Paul George Giannis, Dame Kawhi. That's
Speaker 2: the list. Those are either guys you that their teams
Speaker 2: wouldn't trade, or you wouldn't think it's a good enough
Speaker 2: return for Durant. But that is not the biggest issue.
Speaker 2: The biggest issue is what it does to you as
Speaker 2: far as future flexibility. If you are a second Apron team,
Speaker 2: you cannot trade a first round pick seven years out.
Speaker 2: That's noteworthy because the Sons have already traded away all
Speaker 2: of their picks for the next six years as is,
Speaker 2: so they can include a first round pick in any trade.
Speaker 2: You can't use cash to buy draft picks. Here is
Speaker 2: the real penalizing part. If you are a second Apron
Speaker 2: team in three of five years, so the Sons will
Speaker 2: be a second Apron team this year seven years now
Speaker 2: is the twenty thirty one drafts or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: If they are a second Apron team two more of
Speaker 2: the next four years after this year, their pick in
Speaker 2: that draft is the last pick of the draft. The
Speaker 2: thirtieth pick doesn't matter if they you know, at that
Speaker 2: point Durant's out of the league. If everyone's moved on
Speaker 2: worse than it does not matter. Your pick goes to thirty.
Speaker 2: You can't pick up players that were bought out to
Speaker 2: fill out your roster. All of this stuff. So the Suns,
Speaker 2: the Windorst article said. The Sun's logic was, we might
Speaker 2: be a second Apron team as is, we might as
Speaker 2: well blast through it because the penalties are the same
Speaker 2: whether you're a dollar over or thirty million over. I
Speaker 2: actually understand that. I just don't think it's intelligent deployment
Speaker 2: of assets. I think they need more death. I think
Speaker 2: they need more defense. And you know, Bill Simmons fifteen
Speaker 2: years ago coined the phrase new owner syndrome. Has there
Speaker 2: ever been a more glaring example of new owner syndrome
Speaker 2: than a guy who took over a team five months ago,
Speaker 2: in his first week on the job, traded four first
Speaker 2: round picks and a couple players for Kevin Durant. A
Speaker 2: couple months later, somehow got in a physical altercation with
Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic. A couple weeks after that, fired his head coach,
Speaker 2: seemingly has installed Isaiah Thomas as a shadow GM and
Speaker 2: now has traded every other remaining asset aside from Ayton
Speaker 2: for Chris Paul. I'm sorry for Bradley Beal and lockedown
Speaker 2: him into this. So, and I'm gonna say one other
Speaker 2: thing about the Suns. So, I just got rid of
Speaker 2: my car and got a new car. I got rid
Speaker 2: of my car because it kept breaking down, kept having issues.
Speaker 2: If before I got rid of it, I had said
Speaker 2: I'm driving cross country. If halfway along the trip the
Speaker 2: car breaks down, that is not bad luck. Okay, that
Speaker 2: is poor planning. If you buy a brand new car
Speaker 2: and it breaks down, that's bad luck. The Bucks two
Speaker 2: years ago, when they were defending their title, having Chris
Speaker 2: Middleton get hurt right at the beginning of the playoff
Speaker 2: run is bad luck. He had been durable, he had
Speaker 2: been healthy, couldn't see that coming. That's bad luck. This
Speaker 2: past year, having Chris Paul go down is bad planning.
Speaker 2: The Suns next year. If Durant or Beal missed time,
Speaker 2: that is not bad luck that is very foreseeable, and
Speaker 2: that would be poor planning. So I I just I
Speaker 2: don't think this works for Phoenix, and if it doesn't
Speaker 2: work immediately, it is a barren desert in Phoenix. No
Speaker 2: pun intended for the remainder of the decade. By the way,
Speaker 2: to our producers, Diora is in the chat, she says,
Speaker 2: so people watching on YouTube can chat with Diora and
Speaker 2: if she has any interesting comments or questions, let's use
Speaker 2: some of those in the sea blocks. Let's keep an
Speaker 2: eye out on those, all right. There were some follow
Speaker 2: ups here. The producer's right, is Katie's legacy sealed that
Speaker 2: he could never win a ring, never win anything alone. Well,
Speaker 2: very very very few guys ever win anything alone. I
Speaker 2: do think, and I don't think Katie made them do this,
Speaker 2: But it is an odd spot where once again KD
Speaker 2: finds himself at the EPI center of the team with
Speaker 2: the you know, the only big three or the most
Speaker 2: stacked big three in the league. I think this got
Speaker 2: him further from a ring than what they could have
Speaker 2: done last one, with CP three likely not staying a
Speaker 2: wizard for long. Where do you think he'll go ring chasing?
Speaker 2: So here's the thing on Chris Paul. Maybe they buy
Speaker 2: him out and he just goes and signs somewhere this offseason.
Speaker 2: I do not think that is what Washington should do.
Speaker 2: Washington gets no cap really for buying him out. I
Speaker 2: think Washington should hold on to Chris Paul and see
Speaker 2: if near the deadline someone wants him and will trade
Speaker 2: for him. I do not think they should play him,
Speaker 2: and I think that would be better for Chris Paul.
Speaker 2: I think the best thing possible for Chris Paul would
Speaker 2: be for a season to start in February. So he
Speaker 2: goes to Washington. They tell him, you don't have to
Speaker 2: come in or we're gonna see if anyone wants to
Speaker 2: trade for you. If not, we'll buy you out after
Speaker 2: the deadline. But we're not going. Maybe we'll get a
Speaker 2: little something for you and for Chris. I actually think
Speaker 2: that's better. Brew on TV yesterday brought up Boston. I
Speaker 2: think Boston makes sense. I think the Lakers make sense.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Clippers make sense because I think
Speaker 2: that is a doa team with a bat with a
Speaker 2: toxic call, and I don't think you know, Denver has
Speaker 2: their point guard, Milwaukee has their point guard Miami. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but I would Obviously, I personally like seeing with the Lakers,
Speaker 2: but I think that could happen, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it's the overwhelmingly likely outcome. All right, Next rumors are
Speaker 2: the Pelicans want to trade Zion to draft Scoop. Zion's
Speaker 2: the top ten player when healthy, but he never is.
Speaker 2: If you were genius sports owner Michael Jordan, would you
Speaker 2: give Zion a second chance? I love Scoop, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I would do that now. The latest rumors are in
Speaker 2: his you know, in his final master stroke of ownership
Speaker 2: that Michael Jordan well that the Charlotte Hornets prefer Brandon
Speaker 2: Ingram to Zion Williamson in that trade. You cannot trade
Speaker 2: the number two pick for Brandon Ingram. I know he
Speaker 2: was the number two pick once upon a time you cannot.
Speaker 2: But now on a max contract and with Scoot Henderson
Speaker 2: being the being available there, I wouldn't trade that now.
Speaker 2: I would trade it for Zion. I still think we've
Speaker 2: got a better than a fifty to fifty chance that
Speaker 2: Zion gets right, and if he gets right, he's one
Speaker 2: of the six or seven best offensive players in the
Speaker 2: entire sport. If he gets right. We have never This
Speaker 2: is not an exaggeration. We have never seen this volume
Speaker 2: of scoring on sixty percent. No player in league history
Speaker 2: has averaged fifteen points per game for their career on
Speaker 2: better than sixty percent shooting. Zion is twenty six points
Speaker 2: per game at better than sixty percent shooting. So I
Speaker 2: would try to if I could buy low on Zion,
Speaker 2: I would try to do that. Next. Draymond ops out
Speaker 2: producers Right, your best friend opted out of his deal
Speaker 2: with the Warriors, Draymond Greens noow, a free agent was
Speaker 2: caught hanging with Lebron and France. Do you think he
Speaker 2: should move in with de Monse in La? So listen
Speaker 2: on the France thing. H Draymond, Lebron, Maverick and others
Speaker 2: every summer rent a yacht and go on vacation around Europe.
Speaker 2: I assume that's what's going on right now. I don't
Speaker 2: know for a fact, but I assume that's what's going
Speaker 2: on right now. So that's not new. I do not.
Speaker 2: Draymond and Lebron might be teammates one day, depending on
Speaker 2: how long Lebron plays, But Draymond I knows this is
Speaker 2: his last chance at a real payday. I think that's
Speaker 2: why he opted out. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean he's
Speaker 2: gonna make more than the twenty eight million this year,
Speaker 2: but get a long term deal. Now it's more total money.
Speaker 2: Draymond and I you know, I say only in quotes,
Speaker 2: has only made one hundred and fifty five million in
Speaker 2: his career, and by NBA star status, that's nothing. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's nothing compared to some of his contemporaries. For some context, Clay,
Speaker 2: who you can argue Draymond has been the more important
Speaker 2: Warrior throughout his tenure. Clay has made two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty million. Guys like you know What's a guy that
Speaker 2: Draymond does not have a lot of respect or admiration for.
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert has made one hundred and seventy two million
Speaker 2: and has another one hundred and thirty million on the books.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Draymond's taking a discount. The Lakers
Speaker 2: could only get him with a significant discount. I think
Speaker 2: Draymond likely is back with the Warriors next season. I
Speaker 2: think that is the most likely outcome. All right, last,
Speaker 2: John Moran officially spend a twenty five games. Seems like
Speaker 2: the league's making example out of Jah, even though he
Speaker 2: technically did nothing illegal. Is it fair to expect Joah
Speaker 2: to be a role model for younger players when that
Speaker 2: is not what he signed up for. Is this expectation
Speaker 2: implied when players choose to go pro. I don't think
Speaker 2: the expectation is be a role model. I think it's
Speaker 2: don't be a dumbass. And there are things that you
Speaker 2: get in trouble at work for that aren't illegal in
Speaker 2: every workplace all the time, particularly if you get in
Speaker 2: trouble for something once your workplace makes it very clear
Speaker 2: this is unacceptable, and then you apologize, say you'll do better,
Speaker 2: and then do the exact same thing again. I have
Speaker 2: massive sympathy for Jah in that it seems like he
Speaker 2: is going through a lot. I do not have sympathy
Speaker 2: in that it's like, oh, what did he do? We
Speaker 2: all know what he did. He was a dumbass, That's
Speaker 2: what he did. Like it just spilled my delicious Starbucks
Speaker 2: coffee all over myself, That's what he did. And so
Speaker 2: here is my concern for Jah. And we've spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time on in the past. We don't spend
Speaker 2: too much more time on it's here. I do not
Speaker 2: think the amount of games is gonna have any impact
Speaker 2: on whether or not he changes his behavior. I think
Speaker 2: even five games, twenty five games, fifty five games, he
Speaker 2: lost forty million because of the first thing, he did
Speaker 2: the exact same thing a month later. I think the
Speaker 2: question is whether or not he thinks what he's doing
Speaker 2: is actually a problem and wants to change his behavior.
Speaker 2: I have concerns on both of those fronts. There was
Speaker 2: a report yesterday that John people close to him feel
Speaker 2: like think the NBA is out to get him and
Speaker 2: singling him out. Uh, that to me is is problematic.
Speaker 2: If John thinks he's being Yes, you are being singled
Speaker 2: out because you're the only guy in the league of
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty guys that keeps showing up on
Speaker 2: Instagram showing off pistols. Yes, you are being singled out
Speaker 2: in that regard. And I know this is an uncomfortable analogy,
Speaker 2: but I will use it again for the people that
Speaker 2: just beat the drum on he's not breaking any laws. Guys.
Speaker 2: If John Morant in March posted an you know, totally
Speaker 2: two consenting adults a sex tape of himself to Instagram
Speaker 2: and the league called him in and said, buddy, you
Speaker 2: can't do that. You gotta sit down for a bit.
Speaker 2: He then said, guys, I'm gonna go into some treatment.
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with some stress. I have some issues making
Speaker 2: some boar decisions. After the year, said I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on myself, and a month later posted
Speaker 2: a new sex tape to Instagram. He would be in
Speaker 2: a lot of trouble. It would not be illegal. It
Speaker 2: would show horrific decision making, and you would wonder what
Speaker 2: is he going through that is making him do these
Speaker 2: types of things. Put it in that bucket. If we
Speaker 2: want to have an actual debate about guns in America,
Speaker 2: the either correct or incorrect interpretation of the Second Amendment,
Speaker 2: the unequal application of laws, about who is and who
Speaker 2: isn't penalized by the state or perceived as a threat
Speaker 2: when they're carrying a gun. We can have all of
Speaker 2: those discussions. None of them have anything to do if
Speaker 2: you're being intellectually honest with the Ja Morant situation. Doora
Speaker 2: just texted me that she's laughing out loud because I
Speaker 2: spilled my coffee all over myself. Well, thanks, sweetheart, I
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Michael Jordan's selling his basketball team. He was
Speaker 2: the worst owner in the league for fifteen years. I
Speaker 2: say that matters. Everybody says I'm a wild hater. We
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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan sold his steak in the Charlotte Hornets this week,
Speaker 2: and the rest of the media decided to just in
Speaker 2: more Jordan deification. They're like, oh my god, can you
Speaker 2: believe a guy bought a pro sports franchise decade plus ago,
Speaker 2: sold it and turned a profit. What a brilliant businessman.
Speaker 2: Oh only the goat. We see all these stories about people.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, what happened? Why are you applying for unemployment?
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I just took a bath on owning
Speaker 2: the Toronto maple Leafs. You gotta believe it, you know.
Speaker 2: I used to be a rich man and then I
Speaker 2: sold the Arizona Cardinals and now I'm out on the streets.
Speaker 2: But MJ only MJ to all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 2: got a billion? Can you belie? Leave it? That was
Speaker 2: the other media's interpretation. Mine was a little different, which
Speaker 2: was and I want to be crystal clear on this.
Speaker 2: I believe when we are discussing who the greatest player
Speaker 2: of all time is, I have this crazy belief that
Speaker 2: the clock should start from the moment they're drafted, and
Speaker 2: the clock should end the moment they play their final game.
Speaker 2: That should be our landscape for the debate their NBA careers.
Speaker 2: But I have been told for years that's not how
Speaker 2: this works. And with Jordan it has been the ultimate
Speaker 2: game of three card money, because just when it comes
Speaker 2: to the playing career, it's not the playing career, it's
Speaker 2: six for six, which would mean six four six, So
Speaker 2: you had six opportunities and won all. They got all six.
Speaker 2: So the greatest player of all time had a six
Speaker 2: year career. Well no, no, no, he played fifteen. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: so he had a fifteen year career. So are we
Speaker 2: counting all of that? Well not really. Well what do
Speaker 2: you mean, Well, the last two years don't count. Why
Speaker 2: don't they count? Well, they just don't count. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. So when you say six for six, he
Speaker 2: had six straight years of championships, is what you're saying. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: well how what were there? Well there were eight, So
Speaker 2: then why is it not six for eight? Well he
Speaker 2: was retired the two years in the middle. Oh, he
Speaker 2: was retired for two full years in the middle. Well no,
Speaker 2: actually he came back one year. He came back one year. Oh,
Speaker 2: but he came back. But his team was so bad
Speaker 2: without him. They missed the playoffs. No, no, no, they made
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Oh they did. Was he any good? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well he got MVP votes that season. He did. But
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, did he like get hurt? No? No, no,
Speaker 2: he averaged like almost forty a game in the series
Speaker 2: they lost. They lost? Oh yeah in round two? Oh,
Speaker 2: that team then winning won the title. No, that team
Speaker 2: got swept. Wait, but he would have won the title.
Speaker 2: But we don't count that year. No, no, no, it's not
Speaker 2: fair to count that year. By the way, if I
Speaker 2: told you about the double Nickolay dropped in Madison Square
Speaker 2: Garden that year, that's still part of his legend. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you about it. So that part the you
Speaker 2: know that the entirety of his career, other than the
Speaker 2: six years where they won rings, we don't count. Oddly,
Speaker 2: it's a weird thing we do. I don't quite get it.
Speaker 2: It's never made sense. But whatever. Here's the other part,
Speaker 2: And this is where the ownership stuff comes in. And
Speaker 2: everyone watching knows either if they are on the Jordan's
Speaker 2: side of the argument, they have made this argument. If
Speaker 2: they are on the opposite side of this argument, they
Speaker 2: have heard people make this argument that when you are
Speaker 2: arguing with someone who, like a religious zealot, believes Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan is clearly an unequivocally the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 2: You have heard the shoes brought up. You have heard
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, if he's not the goat, then
Speaker 2: how come his shoes are still the most popular saved
Speaker 2: Nike reinvented shorts, commercialism. You have heard. I've heard about
Speaker 2: the suits after the game, the shaved head, the mystique,
Speaker 2: the aura, all of it has been part of the
Speaker 2: giant stew that people used argue, Michael Jordan's the greatest
Speaker 2: player ever, the whole story. It is under that pretense
Speaker 2: that Michael Jordan being as far as on court performance,
Speaker 2: not off, not Malfe's. It's not racism, not the things
Speaker 2: we've had owners kicked out for. How good is your team?
Speaker 2: The fact that the team he ran for fifteen years
Speaker 2: was the worst team in basketball has to matter. You
Speaker 2: want now, if you again, you want only the on
Speaker 2: court stuff to matter, all sign up for that. But
Speaker 2: all the folks who have argued, oh man, but the
Speaker 2: threes are just an iconic shoot. All of that, and
Speaker 2: you know you've heard these arguments. Well, then the fact
Speaker 2: that you owned the team for fifteen years they won
Speaker 2: three playoff games, zero series. Jordan's ownership tenure of the
Speaker 2: Hornets is much like his playing career pre Pippin. Zero
Speaker 2: series wins, three playoff game, no one playoff game win
Speaker 2: before Pippin got there, zero series wins. That was it.
Speaker 2: It's just longer. And lastly, again, if you want to
Speaker 2: have an earnest, honest discussion, I ask you this. You
Speaker 2: don't have to answer it right now. Just think about it.
Speaker 2: If when Jordan took over the Hornets they turned into
Speaker 2: a juggernaut, If he took over the team ran basketball
Speaker 2: ops and and they ripped off a dynasty. Do you
Speaker 2: honestly think folks would not be using that as part
Speaker 2: of the argument as to more evidence that he's the goat.
Speaker 2: Of course they would, of course they would. So I'm
Speaker 2: just asking what's good for the goose, and if we
Speaker 2: want to make it just about a basketball career, so
Speaker 2: be it. I'd like that as I am sitting here
Speaker 2: right now wearing Jordan's they are a dope sneaker, I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you. But that's never been the rules. It's
Speaker 2: never been how it's been argued. The producers follow up
Speaker 2: with why are you holding him? Jay's bad for an
Speaker 2: office decisions against him, but fine with Lebron forcing the
Speaker 2: Westbrook trade. Well, that's another example of how insane this
Speaker 2: stuff has become. Michael Jordan actually ran a team, owned
Speaker 2: it and ran it and has skated for fifteen years
Speaker 2: on them being the worst in basketball. Lebron plays for
Speaker 2: a team and has gotten Lebron has gotten more criticism
Speaker 2: as a shadow GM, then Jordan has gotten as the
Speaker 2: actual GM. It's betch if everything matters the producers right,
Speaker 2: shouldn't the fact that Space Jam one is way better
Speaker 2: than Space Jam two be part of the conversation? Sure
Speaker 2: for the folks that have that want to do that. I,
Speaker 2: by the way, that was when if everyone is just
Speaker 2: trying to wreckcon what actually happened when Space Jam two
Speaker 2: came out and people can now say they were joking.
Speaker 2: We all saw the tweets, saw the comments seemingly joking
Speaker 2: on television about Space Jam one being so much better
Speaker 2: than Space Jam two being further evidence we all saw it.
Speaker 2: So that's it. Once again. I'm just the only fair
Speaker 2: and honest, you know, media member left on this stuff.
Speaker 2: It would it would appear no agenda, just an accurate
Speaker 2: telling of the story. That's what you guys come to
Speaker 2: me for all interfold Portland seems like they're sigma with
Speaker 2: Dame for better or worse? Are you buying that? All
Speaker 2: interfold of Portland's keeping Dame? You know what I'm folding.
Speaker 2: I need to break them on the Dame stuff. He
Speaker 2: is allowed to do whatever he wants, but it's become
Speaker 2: a little tiresome at this point. There's seemingly some reporters
Speaker 2: very close to him that keep saying he just wants
Speaker 2: to be a Blazer, but maybe would do this. He said,
Speaker 2: he wants to be a Blazer, but I'd go to
Speaker 2: Miami or Brooklyn. I I like Dame a lot. I
Speaker 2: think he's a great player, and he has to make
Speaker 2: the choice. Do I want to be the man in Portland,
Speaker 2: stay there for my entire career and not play in
Speaker 2: a single relevant playoff game for the rest of it,
Speaker 2: or go do something else. I won't judge him for either,
Speaker 2: but there is I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that will kill James Harden if he chooses to go
Speaker 2: to Houston. I'm not sure how big of a difference
Speaker 2: this is at this point. Next, the Nuggets parade got
Speaker 2: pretty wild for some reason. The Lakers with the butt
Speaker 2: of the jokes all in her fold. Michael Malone is
Speaker 2: a sore winner. Michael Malone. I Michael Malone getting drunk
Speaker 2: and having fun. More power to him going on McAfee
Speaker 2: and say, you know, make him taking a shot at
Speaker 2: Lebron saying, you know, I might retire. When eight years ago,
Speaker 2: when no one gave a damn about Michael Malone and
Speaker 2: he got fired by the Kings, Lebron went out and
Speaker 2: said at his media avail, Lebron at this point was
Speaker 2: a four time MVP, two time NBA champion, and said, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, the King screwed up and firing my guy,
Speaker 2: Michael Malone. They had a great coach and didn't know it.
Speaker 2: And it's not like during that series Lebron was taking
Speaker 2: any shots whatsoever. He was nothing but complimentary of the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: I don't get that. Next toe faon Diggs miss started
Speaker 2: mentoring Mini Camp, rumors are swirling. There's tension between Digs
Speaker 2: and the organization all in her fold. Digs agrees with
Speaker 2: Nick on Josh Allen, Oh, I'm all in on that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the organization. The organization paid him.
Speaker 2: He got an issue with that quarterback, and their head
Speaker 2: coach botched that. Their head coach said, I'm very very concerned.
Speaker 2: After Diggs, you know, left the facility on day one
Speaker 2: of Mini camp. He then was back on day two
Speaker 2: and that coach was like, no, no, you guys blew it
Speaker 2: out of proportion. They then canceled the third day of
Speaker 2: mini camp. They got a real problem there. Next, Packers
Speaker 2: depends it back to Ayi. Alexander called Jordan loved the
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the league and love wish Bears fans
Speaker 2: happy Father's Day. All in her fold. Rogers left ayahuasca
Speaker 2: in the water in Green Bay. I'm gonna fold on
Speaker 2: that specific thing. Uh. Oh wait, did I skip one? No,
Speaker 2: I didn't skip one. The producer screwed up. Take that. Producers.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the wrong thing on the screen. Uh, but
Speaker 2: you're fine, Sorry about that. Uh. You guys are actually
Speaker 2: doing a great job. But the here's what I will say,
Speaker 2: Folks need to learn how to how to make compliments believable.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Diora is still watching, if
Speaker 2: you are responding the comments, babe. Uh, But if after
Speaker 2: Diora's fifth show, I looked to her and I said,
Speaker 2: I got to tell you something. I think you are
Speaker 2: the best podcaster in the world, it would so clearly,
Speaker 2: on its face be ridiculous that any other compliment I
Speaker 2: ever gave her would ring hollow. So Jayi Alexander saying
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is the best quarterback in the league now
Speaker 2: makes anything he ever says about Jordan Love for the
Speaker 2: the the rest of the year just meaningless. So here's
Speaker 2: all you gotta say. If you're a Gyere Alexander, I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you Jordan Love's gonna surprise some people. He's
Speaker 2: going to be very good this season. And I true
Speaker 2: and if you really want to go over the top,
Speaker 2: I truly believe one day he will be in a
Speaker 2: discussion as the best quarterback in football. You guys might
Speaker 2: think that's ridiculous. People would have thought it was ridiculous
Speaker 2: with Aaron Just wait, give him time. He's gonna immediately
Speaker 2: he's better than you think. Right now he's gonna say that.
Speaker 2: But to say right now he's the best quarterback in
Speaker 2: the league's outrageous. All right, last one, Chiefs finally got
Speaker 2: their super Bowl rings. They are well, let's just call
Speaker 2: them big all unfold. Super Bowl rings have gone too far.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm folding on that. I love the super Bowl ring.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. I do like the new thing with super
Speaker 2: Bowl rings is the detachable like face that then has
Speaker 2: more stuff on the inside. I think that's awesome. I
Speaker 2: would just be terrified I would lose it, like lose
Speaker 2: a piece of the ring. But and here's the part
Speaker 2: that we can clip off, not necessarily for social but
Speaker 2: just for me to send via text to the Kansity chiefs. Guys,
Speaker 2: I kind of I kind of want to ring. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like the diamonds, don't have to
Speaker 2: be real, but I I do feel like when you
Speaker 2: know your quarterback and Hall of Fame tight end Bear
Speaker 2: hug me and lift me off the ground at the
Speaker 2: parade and both say you were the only one who
Speaker 2: believed in us, Like if we're if we're doing credit
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl, like the players are at seventy
Speaker 2: five percent, Andy Reid and the front office are at
Speaker 2: twenty four percent, The doubters and haters collectively are at
Speaker 2: half a percent, The fans and supporters are at point
Speaker 2: four ninety nine percent, and then me dropping banners, trolling
Speaker 2: the bills, unwavering support. I think it's like point one percent.
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, at least deserves consideration
Speaker 2: for a ring. So all I'm saying, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if Brett's watching, but I know mister Veach, Brett's
Speaker 2: father is a die hard viewer of at least the
Speaker 2: TV show, maybe the podcast. Yeah, maybe just consider it.
Speaker 2: Just consider it. I'd wear it proudly. Quick break right back,
Speaker 2: answer your questions. We'll try, all right, welcome back in
Speaker 2: what's try to think? Right? Diora has texted in are
Speaker 2: you taking shots at my podcasting skills while I'm not
Speaker 2: there to defend myself? Baby, No, I am not taking shots.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if I'd have called you the
Speaker 2: best podcaster in the world, you would have known that
Speaker 2: I was lying. People just need to understand how to
Speaker 2: compliment in a way that feels good but also believable.
Speaker 2: Just rush. She also wrote in evidently you don't deserve
Speaker 2: a ring. That's not nice, by the way, speaking of
Speaker 2: someone deserving something I had forgotten we even did this,
Speaker 2: but we did before the playoffs. Another edition of out
Speaker 2: Pick Nick where it was a confidence ranking. So you
Speaker 2: ranked every team one through sixteen, and sixteen was your
Speaker 2: most confident, one was your least confident, and you got
Speaker 2: a point accordingly with every team game that team won.
Speaker 2: So if the team that you picked number three won
Speaker 2: one two games, you would get six points for them,
Speaker 2: And if the team you picked at number sixteen won
Speaker 2: ten games, you would get one hundred and sixty points
Speaker 2: for them. We have the results. Third place was at
Speaker 2: the kid Shim ninety. Second place was show Off and
Speaker 2: and In something I simply did not believe and then
Speaker 2: checked the archival data to make sure it was correct.
Speaker 2: In first place in the out Picnic NBA contest Demonse.
Speaker 2: Of all our entries, first place was Demonse. We had
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty entries. Demanse won the whole thing,
Speaker 2: just maddening. Congrats to him. And here's the deal. I
Speaker 2: am deciding right now he gets a two hundred dollars
Speaker 2: bonus for that if within twenty four hours of this
Speaker 2: podcast happening, So by eleven thirty Eastern tomorrow he texts
Speaker 2: me or calls me and says, where's my bonus? I
Speaker 2: want to see if he's watching now. I did realize,
Speaker 2: gosh darn it, I'm screwed here. His sister's watching. And
Speaker 2: Deora is a tricky one, which is she likely now
Speaker 2: will tell her brother give him a heads up, but
Speaker 2: then make him cut her in on it. Uh. Deora
Speaker 2: also yeah, just because she's texting me and trolling me
Speaker 2: right now. So I'm gonna she's not here to defend herself.
Speaker 2: Deora pulled a heck of a move yesterday. Keep in
Speaker 2: mind it's late June. She calls me yesterday. She's like
Speaker 2: Padre For those you know, remember on Christmas, some of
Speaker 2: my gifts were, you know, money for some of my clothes,
Speaker 2: websites that I go to that you didn't actually give
Speaker 2: me the money, but you said I can spend one
Speaker 2: hundred bucks here, two hundred bucks here. Do you remember
Speaker 2: which ones I didn't use fully? Because I know I
Speaker 2: didn't use all of them. And she knew damn well
Speaker 2: that there was a zero percent chance I would possibly
Speaker 2: remember that. And she knew damn well that my answer
Speaker 2: would be just get just I trust you, Just get
Speaker 2: yourself some nice And she just instantly texts me three
Speaker 2: pairs of brand new new balances and said which one
Speaker 2: do you like best, to which I did leave her
Speaker 2: on red on. I just didn't respond. But she's a
Speaker 2: tricky one all right. Time for fan questions, Von Tadium,
Speaker 2: says DeAndre eight and to Boston for Robert Williams and
Speaker 2: Mark is smart. I mean, that's that's a great deal
Speaker 2: for Phoenix Boston. You can't do that deal. Can't trade
Speaker 2: Robert Williams and Mark Smart for DeAndre and just can't
Speaker 2: Joe s says, Lol, Nick, you used Kareem's college career
Speaker 2: to say it was better than Jordan. Not quite. I
Speaker 2: used Kareem's college career as evidence of two things. One
Speaker 2: that if you wanted to make the argument who has
Speaker 2: had the greatest basketball life, Kareem wins that hands down.
Speaker 2: The guy went I think, undefeated in high school when
Speaker 2: seventy nine into in college and then went and did
Speaker 2: that win and did that in the NBA. So I also, though,
Speaker 2: used Kareem's college career as evidence of if you think
Speaker 2: it's the seventies, you don't remember how good is the company.
Speaker 2: This guy was a thoroughly dominant guy from word go
Speaker 2: And where I did use the non NBA profile on
Speaker 2: Kareem and Lebron versus Jordan was I just asked people logically,
Speaker 2: in the three guys for the goat debate, one guy
Speaker 2: was the greatest amateur player ever, a no doubt number
Speaker 2: one pick, one guy was the most hyped prospect ever,
Speaker 2: a no doubt number one pick, and the other guy
Speaker 2: went third in the draft. That's the point I made
Speaker 2: Jonathan Kwame asked, what's your view on no trade calls
Speaker 2: and NBA contracts and what should a player do to
Speaker 2: deserve one. I think you've got to be a generational
Speaker 2: player of your era. The reason the Wizard's got nothing
Speaker 2: for Bradley Beals because they wanted to move on from him,
Speaker 2: but he could veto every trade, so he picked his
Speaker 2: team and then also basically made it the trade that
Speaker 2: smartly made that team as good as possible, where they
Speaker 2: sell the eight and trade asset. I mean that's on
Speaker 2: the Wizards, not on Beal. They didn't have to give
Speaker 2: him one. Barf asked Nick, what's sense of pride in
Speaker 2: watching your kids graduate? I'm I'm incredibly proud. I was
Speaker 2: incredibly proud of Diora for what she did over the
Speaker 2: course of high school, the person she's become, the trials
Speaker 2: and tribulation she's overcome, how she's matured the fact that she,
Speaker 2: unlike me, unlike her big brother, unlike her mom, unlike
Speaker 2: anybody I know, made it through high school, all of
Speaker 2: it without having one. You know, almost everyone has at
Speaker 2: least one thing that happens in high school that you
Speaker 2: look back on a decade later and You're like, uh,
Speaker 2: that that could have been that either could have been
Speaker 2: really bad or was really bad scary, you know, big
Speaker 2: trouble at school, caught up with the cops, something bad.
Speaker 2: I had. It happened twice in high school. You know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not taking a shot at her brother.
Speaker 2: Her brother got in some trouble in high school. Almost
Speaker 2: everyone does it. The fact that Diora made it through
Speaker 2: all of high school and it never happened, I told
Speaker 2: her I thought was remarkable and really impressive. So I'm
Speaker 2: proud of all of that, proud of her for graduating
Speaker 2: high school. I mean, at this if she hadn't graduated
Speaker 2: high school, it's a calamity, Like graduating high school is
Speaker 2: a is a is in today's day and age, kind
Speaker 2: of like a bare minimum. So I'm incredibly proud of
Speaker 2: her a lot of things. And I was very emotional
Speaker 2: watching her walk across the stage because it means she's
Speaker 2: about to leave the house and become a real adult
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But it's like, how proud of It's
Speaker 2: kind of like the teenage version of like are you
Speaker 2: proud of your kid for taking their first steps? Or
Speaker 2: just like well, this will be a disaster. If they
Speaker 2: never do, I think that makes sense. Doora asks question
Speaker 2: for Nick, how do you still get views without Door
Speaker 2: on the show. I guess we'll find out. I will
Speaker 2: see how the views are. Oh no, Diora says, I
Speaker 2: can't stand you. I was paying for those with my
Speaker 2: own money. About the shoes, and she thought I had
Speaker 2: taken pictures of the what her Christmas presents were. Sorry, baby,
Speaker 2: I love you. I hope you're back Thursday. See you guys.
Speaker 2: One more thirty minute show today. I'm on with Colin
Speaker 2: today around one fifteen. My show is then two to
Speaker 2: two thirty and then we're back on regular times starting
Speaker 2: tomorrow because the UEFA the soccer stuff is over for
Speaker 2: a bit. All right, talk to you guys later today
Speaker 2: two o'clock on FS one. We'll try