WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Back Together Again

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<v Speaker 1>The following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, October twenty ninth, two thousand and twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>season sixteen, episode number fifty four, and welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Break. We are live here at the

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<v Speaker 1>FunTown r V tailgate. We're in the Tostitos Championship Plaza

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<v Speaker 1>at Ford Center, and I got my crew with me. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome because it's the first time since maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, February March, since we've all four been

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<v Speaker 1>in the same room. You probably had a meeting back then,

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<v Speaker 1>so it mean yeah, like mid February. Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying no. So the first time we've been together for

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<v Speaker 1>a show. We don't have to worry about Dave's phone

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<v Speaker 1>doing glitchy type things right now. We can actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a good conversation. There's nothing that's that's prohibiting these guys

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<v Speaker 1>from mixing it up a little bit. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to have you guys here, and thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>a funtwn RV for setting this all up for us.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit cool, a little chilly, but we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>it through. Amber you Okay, I'm hanging in there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you hear any teeth chattering, it's amber. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll make it through. It would be fall and bad weather.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what we got right now. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this is actually, this is a really fitting U

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<v Speaker 1>sums up where we are in the Cowboys season. That

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<v Speaker 1>episode fifty four, h yes is wow. Wow, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even get that. Oh my god, oh my god. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be I'm talking about episode fifty four. It

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<v Speaker 1>means it's gonna be a Ring of Honor type show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's two fifty four is in the Ring

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor, Randy White, thanks, mister historian. That's good. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four you guys are referring to three? Will there be three? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Hambrick won't get in, so I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what do volunteer? All right, let's let's jump right in.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to talk a little bit about this roster.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple moves yesterday Darryl Worley and Don

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Poe obviously Wave we talked about it on the

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<v Speaker 1>show yesterday that was likely going to happen. It did happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Cowboys did also or they are expected to

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<v Speaker 1>make another move at quarterback, bringing back an old familiar

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<v Speaker 1>name and Cooper Rush. Question is where does he fit

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<v Speaker 1>on the depth chart? Like they got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys that kind of well, two guys that they've added

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<v Speaker 1>here in the last couple of weeks. Where does what

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<v Speaker 1>does the depth chart really look like for this team

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback? Nick Well, I'm just hoping we can get

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<v Speaker 1>the term ginger snaps somewhere on the headline of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we can get him and Andy Dalton,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, you have to got it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how it goes Sunday. I mean like that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to decide the depth chart. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>if Nutch goes out there and plays well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he could be the backup when Andy comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>But if not, I mean, this might be have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with Andy Dalton or Denuccie. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>more about Garrett Gilbert and be like, all right, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't he's still having a hard time learning the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy knows the plays. I mean, Cooper knows the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows Kellen Moore. So I don't know where he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna remember it's the practice squad next week, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be the third quarterback moving forward, maybe the second.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I think. I mean in a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect world that I think the hope is that neither

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush nor Garrett Gilbert ever needs to play this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, for one, you just got to cover yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in case Andy takes longer than expected coming back, and

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<v Speaker 1>or if something happens to Ben de Nucci. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's going to be running for his life one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other on Sunday. Like, hopefully he can

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy on Sunday. Cooper Rush gives you insurance. He yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy said today, he was like, well, Cooper was

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<v Speaker 1>part of our offseason meetings. I don't think that's completely

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<v Speaker 1>true because Cooper Rush was cut on May fourth, right

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<v Speaker 1>after Dalton signed, like so they weren't really into the

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<v Speaker 1>meat of what they were doing. But he was here

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<v Speaker 1>last year in the year before that, he knows Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore like, he's probably pretty familiar with the offense, so

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<v Speaker 1>you would think he can pick it up pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>if he needs to. But Andy Dalton was in meetings today,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the team meeting yesterday, He's in the

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<v Speaker 1>position meetings today. So I would hope he's rounding toward

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<v Speaker 1>being able to play next week if he can't go Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would hope Cooper Rush doesn't need to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything on the field. But it's just insurance Kenny at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I mean, with the COVID protocols, when will

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<v Speaker 1>he be able to actually be with the team and

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<v Speaker 1>Canny even be on the field this Sunday on the

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<v Speaker 1>sidelines or anything. He won't be here till next week.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got I think, Nick, you said it's six six tests,

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<v Speaker 1>six negative tests, just to get in the door. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the part that's a little curious to me, because by

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<v Speaker 1>the time he would actually be able to come into

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<v Speaker 1>the building, I would guess I would hope Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>his back and so you're at like he's even farther

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<v Speaker 1>down the depth chart. Does that seem a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>strange to you guys that they would bring him in

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<v Speaker 1>at this point knowing that he really can't help him

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend when you would be without Dalton presumable. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I here's the thing with the offensive line. You just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going to happen at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure we're gonna talk about Bendy Nucci in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but I feel bad. I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for the guy. He has talent and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's so tiny, and I feel bad that if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets hit, it's not gonna feel good. And hopefully he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get hit, but we know that's bound to probably

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<v Speaker 1>happen with the kind of old line we have. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't know at this point what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>injuries starting from the old line, and then now it's

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<v Speaker 1>carrying on to the quarterback position as well. Also, I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I would just say concussions are different. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not. There is no specific timeline. No two

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<v Speaker 1>concussions are the same. It's a very good sign that

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<v Speaker 1>Andy's in meetings, but you know, he might I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how that works. I've never had a concussion,

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<v Speaker 1>but he might not feel as good Monday as he

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<v Speaker 1>does right now. I don't know so and he had

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<v Speaker 1>hurt to cover your neither as he. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>never had one, which is you know, that's good and bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good that you know, this's not like

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<v Speaker 1>it apparently keeps getting worse and worse the more that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. But he know, he's never had one, so

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really know the symptoms and feelings, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of what he should be, you know, having. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it again, I think it comes back

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<v Speaker 1>to Gilbert. I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably going to be the third Russia will be

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarterback or maybe second, depending on how Ben

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<v Speaker 1>plays in this game. Yeah, and let's not forget like

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<v Speaker 1>when he was laying on the field that that certainly

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look very good. It certainly looked like to me

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<v Speaker 1>he was really injured. And so you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>never know the severity of this concussion. Obviously they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really that kind of information, but it certainly didn't look good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to cast aspersions because again, all signs

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<v Speaker 1>point toward Andy being fine in the long run. But

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<v Speaker 1>I always think about it's a completely different sport. But

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Crosby once suffered a concussion that knocked him out

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<v Speaker 1>for like half a season, like he could. Yeah he

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<v Speaker 1>so hockey, right, yeah, yes, one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>the last day. Yeah yeah, I got you. H So

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<v Speaker 1>you never know, and like I feel like people to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Zach Martin is coming back one week after

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<v Speaker 1>his most people are like, okay, a concussions one week

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not always true. So it's just something to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on. I want to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about this Cowboys offense. Remember, in the second segment,

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<v Speaker 1>as we do every Thursday, we'll have a Buckey Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>calling and he's gonna talk to us about the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>offense versus the Philadelphia defense. But I had a few

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<v Speaker 1>questions for you guys, particularly about this Philadelphia. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about this Cowboys offense in the matchup. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with Ben Denucci. We heard Mike McCarthy talking this

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<v Speaker 1>morning about the fact that he's a guy that that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly can run. We've heard coming into the league, we heard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stories of a guy he seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile type quarterback, a guy that kind of can

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<v Speaker 1>freelance as necessary and with this offensive line, I would

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<v Speaker 1>think freelancing is something he might have to do. That

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<v Speaker 1>all being said, do you think that he actually gives

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, not factoring in in I know it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be weird, but not factoring in his inexperience, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he actually gives them a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 1>advantage knowing the offensive line isn't as good and he

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<v Speaker 1>has the ability to get off script and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make things happen on the run and on the fly. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think if they were racing, like if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a scramble drill and you run in, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be better than Andy Dalton doing that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like like the old saying Parcel says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge is confidence and confidence lets you play fast. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have that knowledge. You don't even know where

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<v Speaker 1>this s blitz is coming from. You haven't seen it before,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't even played big time college football. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tough for him for him to just be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of things and grasp stuff. So, yes, if if Fletcher

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<v Speaker 1>Cox is running at him, he will probably be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from it quicker than Andy Dalton. But

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<v Speaker 1>will he even know that that that guy's coming, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as early as some of the other guys would. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't see the advantage. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but I don't see the advantage just because

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<v Speaker 1>he's so raw. I can I can answer that question

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<v Speaker 1>with a refreshingly honest anecdote from Mike McCarthy yesterday, Calvin Watkins,

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<v Speaker 1>our friend. He covers the team for the Dallas Morning

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<v Speaker 1>He asked, it wasn't a funny Well, we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked Mike McCarthy if it's harder to design a

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<v Speaker 1>game plan for a seventh round rookie who's never played

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. And McCarthy literally said, is that supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a joke? I can't tell because you're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a mask, And Calvin was like, no, no, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>totally serious. And he was like, of course it's harder,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like laughing as he said it. So, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely isn't an advantage. But you know, Denucci is

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, like, he is an athletic guy. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>even sneaky athletic like he is athletic, and so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that'll help him. But I can't call it an advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I made reference to it earlier and they've just

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<v Speaker 1>called him athletic, and he cann't have athleticism. But in

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes, he looks so fragile and skinny, and most

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<v Speaker 1>rookies come into their first year, you know, a little skinny,

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<v Speaker 1>and usually they start gaining some muscle as the years

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<v Speaker 1>go by. So that's the aspect that scares me. The

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<v Speaker 1>confusion that Nick mentioned him kind of hesitating and then

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<v Speaker 1>because of that hesitation being tackled, being tacked and then

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<v Speaker 1>causing a possible injury. And I guess I'm just panicking

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<v Speaker 1>even more now that we've seen it happen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're down to our third quarterback. It's just like you're

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<v Speaker 1>more hesitant with everything. So I'm just I am honestly

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<v Speaker 1>scared for him right now. You know. It's interesting. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of what Kellen Moore had to say yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in his press conference. I think it was yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying, you know, one of the big things

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<v Speaker 1>about Ben Denucci is he just got to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he can call the play. And that's where I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we are right now. Can you call the play.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get the play called in the huddle in

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<v Speaker 1>a way to where everybody knows what they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do and get it right, because, by the way, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing that offensive line needs is more confusion

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<v Speaker 1>in the huddle, right, So that tells you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>where they are from the standpoint of experience. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is guy had no preseason action, even like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how hard this will make sure. McCarthy said another question

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<v Speaker 1>about that today. Somebody asked, like, are you above putting

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<v Speaker 1>a wristband on him? You know, like you typically associate

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<v Speaker 1>that with high school and college football, And McCarthy was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll be okay because we got the micro

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got the headsets and the helmets. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not above anything if I think it'll work or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you gotta do at this point. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>want to another question. Let's assume that and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fair assumption that Zach Martin will be back

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Would you keep the offensive line the same

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<v Speaker 1>or and just plug zach In at right guard? And

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<v Speaker 1>if not, what would you do? Let's start with you day.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I answer your question with a question? Sure? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I get Joe Looney too, because I'd love to moves

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<v Speaker 1>act to tackle. But who's sure, let's slay to Joe's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's assume Joe is back. I actually tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what you would do? You know, I think I might

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<v Speaker 1>do it anyway, honestly, because Connor McGovern seemed to hold

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<v Speaker 1>up okay, like he wasn't he wasn't awful the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and that was a really good front. I'm terrified

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<v Speaker 1>at Fletcher Cox's playing against Connor McGovern, But but are

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<v Speaker 1>you more afraid of Terrence Steele up against who has

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<v Speaker 1>killed cowboy quarterbacks in the past. Absolutely, I am so Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I probably would. Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>it starts with Steele As to being out, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you have to replace him some one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't be your right tackle anymore. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good good story, good player. I mean maybe he will

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<v Speaker 1>be a good player at some point, but right now

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<v Speaker 1>he's not there. I would move Zach Martin out there,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I've been told, the guy that might not

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<v Speaker 1>start this week as Connor Williams. Yeah, wow, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just that's just what I've been told that it cut

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<v Speaker 1>the mustard could be McGovern or, probably Irving Looney, Beaddish

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<v Speaker 1>McGovern and Zack Martin. Don't hold me to that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that's they're thinking. Connor Williams. Say a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, because I'm confused right now. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you confuse about? Yeah? What's do you really think Connors

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<v Speaker 1>played well enough where he shouldn't be above reproach? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>I hold on before she answered, let me just say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would do that. I wouldn't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with this. Many guys that have seen the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>are seen an NFL you know, front before, so I

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would do that over Connor McGovern I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen enough yet, But I'm just saying it's all

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<v Speaker 1>being tossed around right now. If I have Joe Looney back,

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<v Speaker 1>imagining his back already, this is what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put Connor Williams and Sack Martin, moved them

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<v Speaker 1>out to tackle, keep Connor McGovern guard and Joe Louney

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<v Speaker 1>i ard and then Beatish at center. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, because I feel that maybe that's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say it's gonna start giving you some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of consistency because at this point, I mean injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know when they're gonna happen, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>you're It would make me feel better at the tackle position.

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<v Speaker 1>And a guard like Dave bensh I mean McGovern he's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing an okay job, so he seems like he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hold up Biddish. He seems to be doing fine

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And at least with Joe Looney, we know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a vet, he has the experience and he can

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<v Speaker 1>probably hold up a guard as well. Doing a good

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<v Speaker 1>job there, So I would love I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and put Connor Williams at tackle. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Brooks should be joining us. We'll ask him some

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Bucky, Welcome to the show. We'll start where

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<v Speaker 1>we start every week. Give us the strengths and weaknesses

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<v Speaker 1>of this Philadelphia defense and the right up front of

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. Plus your talks, Brandon Graham, very

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<v Speaker 1>really good have done. Did bring that rush you with four?

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<v Speaker 1>They need to bring others and when they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>control the line of scrimmage, they're a handful. I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>The weaknesses already at the second level. They're linebackers. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't really invest a lot in the linebacker position, and

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<v Speaker 1>so if you want to get them, it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>attacking their linebackers. But they're backed up by secondary the

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<v Speaker 1>various lave that can cover, and so it's a defense

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<v Speaker 1>where they have to be able to get it done

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<v Speaker 1>with the front four. If they can't get it done

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<v Speaker 1>with the front four, they can struggle at times. So

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<v Speaker 1>holding up to get good team Bucky, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know we we just in the first time man we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Cowboys online. I just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more in depth about the pass rush that the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>have right now and how that could be maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>problem for the Cowboys. Well, it should be a problem

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<v Speaker 1>because they have three guys that can get home Schleussian

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<v Speaker 1>Cox is where it stars. He's an interior pass rusher,

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<v Speaker 1>has size, has strength, has power, and when motivated, he

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<v Speaker 1>can take over the game by himself. Brandon Graham is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that is an energize with Bunny off the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not necessarily a double visit chack artist, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is persistent and he's problematic. His ability to play with leverage,

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to play with a relentless spirit gives upon

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<v Speaker 1>his problems. And because he is what I call an

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<v Speaker 1>undersize pass rusher, tall pass protectors can have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>because if he gets a funny that he can walk

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<v Speaker 1>it back to the quarterback and then Derek Cornett is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is very sound technically doesn't get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fanfare, but he also can create problems off the backside. Bucky,

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<v Speaker 1>are you warm right now? I am? I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one heart of my own home and perfect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one I just want to make sure too far

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<v Speaker 1>a question, man, if you were the Eagles defense, would

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pull up James Madison tape right now

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<v Speaker 1>if you were just to try to scout Jane ben

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<v Speaker 1>de Nucci. Yeah, like you surely have looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>Jmutabe just to get an idea of what he's been

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<v Speaker 1>comfortably doing in his time, because you don't have enough

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<v Speaker 1>from the previous game against the rushing football team to

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<v Speaker 1>really know. So the advanced scout, the pro scout is

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<v Speaker 1>looked at h him and he's given Jim Schwortz No

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm sure Jim Schwartz has looked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>at the jamutabe just to get a feel for how

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<v Speaker 1>he plays. But yeah, you got attack him based off

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<v Speaker 1>of what he did at JMU. You realize that he's athletics,

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<v Speaker 1>he can run. The Cowboys could add some wrinkles that

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<v Speaker 1>can give you problems. So yeah, you have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the jamutage in the prayer. I doubt he faced

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<v Speaker 1>a Fletcher Cox on that schedule at JMU, though I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt it. Probably you know anybody like that, Bucky, I uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I feel like all we've done is

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Eagles pass rush, but understandably so, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pitch it to you. We were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking in the first segment about what to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Martin. If I tell you, I mean, Zack Martin

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<v Speaker 1>should be back for this game. One of the best

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<v Speaker 1>guards in football. Is he more useful to you going

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<v Speaker 1>against Fletcher Cox on the inside or on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>against Brandon Graham. Where would you rather have him for

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<v Speaker 1>this game? Geez, I think such a cut is a

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<v Speaker 1>better player. But I think if Jack Martin can go

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<v Speaker 1>out and play right tackle, I will put him in

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle because I think we have seen the struggles

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<v Speaker 1>with Terry Steel's head. I think you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make a manage or make do. If you're struggling in

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<v Speaker 1>a little inside, you can help. The center can help.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's a little tighter in the neighborhood. But the

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<v Speaker 1>struggles off the edge have been the ones where we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the turnovers happen. If zag Morton is comfortable playing

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle or just playing tack housing in attack. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky talking about Ben Denucci. Take me back to pre

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<v Speaker 1>draft and I know you're you're a draft guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the players coming out. Give me your

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<v Speaker 1>best scouting report on him, both strengths and weaknesses coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of college. I mean in stress where his traite,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had a big arm. He is that

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<v Speaker 1>he has a bit of a gun slinger mentality, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when he is rolling and streaky, he can make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen. I think the weaknesses would be just because

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<v Speaker 1>of his arm and because he has always been able

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<v Speaker 1>to trust it. Particularly at that level, he could be

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<v Speaker 1>a little late to fire, and sometimes he feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he can overpower the defense and fit it into a

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<v Speaker 1>small window. So his biggest weakness will be understanding who

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<v Speaker 1>he is and how he has to play. And this

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>game is so much faster when he gets to this level.

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<v Speaker 1>How quickly can he adjust the quick reactions from the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and Nick Jim Schwartz is not one that typically

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<v Speaker 1>does a lot of disguise and complexity in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>his scheme, But how quickly can he identify what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing pre snap? And how much does it change post snap?

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<v Speaker 1>When they do try to rock a road? The safety

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<v Speaker 1>can give him a different look after the ball has

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<v Speaker 1>already been spent by let's say Bendy Nucci. It is

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<v Speaker 1>constantly under pressure this Sunday, and then the Cowboys have

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to turn to the running game and the sea kilalia

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>is that? I mean? Do you see this matchup being

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a game where maybe the Cowboys can be able to

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>utilize the run and actually getting moving a little bit

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 1>better than what we've seen so far. I think they

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>can utilize the run. I think Mike McCarthy may have

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<v Speaker 1>led the kid out the bag a little bit when

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about Ben Dnucci's athleticism a running skill. Maybe

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we see some quarterback play some zone read stuff where

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 1>they put it in Jigbellion read it and major quarterback

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>takes off a couple of times just to stretch the

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<v Speaker 1>defense in a different way. But this has to be

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a deep game. It has to be a big more game.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it each every week. He has to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a certain point. But I know, I now

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>know that Kellen Moore has to know that he has

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie quarterback and he cannot think that a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback can throw forty times successfully. They have to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to run the ball. They maybe a more

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<v Speaker 1>conservative game plan, but this has a big game where

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of play old school football and you hope

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<v Speaker 1>that your defense is up to the challenge that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>create the turn lucky. When you watch the tape the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, what did you see from cde Lamb obviously

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a catch the first time in his in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. You know he kind of had I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you would say he definitely had a down game. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you think he bounces back? And also, like what

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>did you see on tape from him? Was a concentration

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<v Speaker 1>just just not you know, getting watching the ball in Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think there were like simple concentration drops, nothing

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that I would be alarmed at. Sometimes the ball jumps

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>upon you quick as a receiver, beer a little quicker,

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and then in traffic, all it takes is one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things to kind of catch the attention of the

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<v Speaker 1>eye and you take your eye off of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he would be fine. In fact, I think

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>he's probably a little more determined to come back and

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have a big game. I wonder how the Cowboys would

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>utilize and the quicker than passing game, because you don't

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>really want to have these exectic or intestate. Ross would

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>be in denuci a quarter. But I think early on

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to feed the ball to cd lad to

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>get him comfortable, because he is certainly one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best playmakers if I'm the best playmaker on the forma.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to preface this by saying that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>stupid asking so I understand, like you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>throw at forty times with Ben Denucci. I get that,

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but we have seen the Cowboys victimized this secondary in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. You know, Marii Cooper has big games against

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>these guys on a regular basis. Dak has thrown for

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred on multiple occasions. I get you don't want

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to live that way, but you know, Ronald Darby's not there.

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Jenkins isn't there anymore. I mean, if they dial

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<v Speaker 1>up five or six shots downfield, just drop back and

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>let Gallup or Cooper go downfield and get it. I mean,

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is there a chance that that might be successful? I mean,

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think it's all about Tommy. I mean,

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>when I look at this secondary, Darious play is the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that we would consider a little ship players.

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>The rest of those guys are just guys. I mean,

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Vante Maddock is okay. We're seeing Cravon LeBlanc have some issues.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He struggled a little bit against the Giants, Fiar Robie

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Coleman has also had problems. So yeah, there's some matchups

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that are there. But I think, but you have to

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>wait when you tell them more and your Mike McCarthy

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>risk versus reward? How often are we willing to risk

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>putting the ball in then demetri Canes and having him

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>throw it versus what are the rewards going to be?

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>What we do elect to take that strategy. It could

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>be fruitful, it could be successful, but I still think

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to keep him on a pretty tight pitch

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>count because you just don't know what he's going to do,

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>particularly because it's his first game as a starter, and

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it's also the first time that an opponent has prepared

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>to face him, which is different than him hopping off

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the dancing going to play. We're joined by Bucky Brooks

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>of NFL Network, and Bucky, before we let you go,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get your final thoughts heading into this

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys Eagles matchup. What do you think happened and who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think wins? Man. So, I think it's the

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>great step this week to clean up the defense. I

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it will result in an immediate result

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in the win column, but I do think they've got

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the attention as the players. I think you see a

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>better effort from the player. I still think this is

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a very wonderful game because when I've seen the Eagles played,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't set the world on fire over.

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>They're often. I think it's really all about can you

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>get pressure to Carson Went pression Went will turn the

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>ball over, But it comes down to you, can you

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for us them to turn it over behind the weak

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>pensil Lionas to ring the twenty eight sex, I would

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>like to think the energy and the effort from Randy,

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Gregory Braley and I to go with autism should be enough.

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's gonna be tough. I think this

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is the field goal game. Either way, it's you can

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>get reach up the game in the season's problem. All right, Bucky,

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you joining us. We'll have you back next week

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>when we start getting ready for the next Cowboys game

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>next Wednesday. Till then we're gonna go to our final break,

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<v Speaker 1>will come back. We're gonna wrap up the show with

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<v Speaker 1>a little episode of see a note that Ambrew has

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star. I think that was a good idea, though, Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>what he just said in the break. We usually go

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<v Speaker 1>four to five minutes. He said he was gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I think that's a great idea. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a really great idea. I'm alrighty, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. I'm in, let's go this point. I'm warm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go. I'm here. This is not this

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<v Speaker 1>is not that difficult, Like this is a very talking

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys football gives me warm. The good little cross talk

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<v Speaker 1>with the Shannon in the in the group coming in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is that hanging with the boys? Was that they're on?

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<v Speaker 1>They're on after us. You'll never promote them. It's a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually about ten minutes behind because of you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised. I can't have two former players on there. Really? Yeah, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that that Nate Newton guy? I know him, I

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<v Speaker 1>know him. Some of those guys I've never heard of.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>But Nate Newton Kurt Daniels, I've heard of those two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about the other guys on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's jump back in and Amber. We

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't done this in a long time. I figured, since

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<v Speaker 1>we were all together for the first time in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, we'll do a little c oh no, what

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<v Speaker 1>got amber? Are you sure you want to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sent in fiery questions. I am sure, yes, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Put you guys on the spot. Let's go, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick mentioned fifty four, So a lot of people are

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>asking about him, Jalen Smith. Should the Cowboys bench him, slash,

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>trade him, basically get him off the field? See? Oh no? Um?

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I'm see with a caveat first. You

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>can't trade him. You can't. Nobody would want him like

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll kill your cap. Nobody's gonna give you something

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>worthwhile for him if they watch the tape. So forget

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>about that. I mean, if if I thought it was realistic,

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I would be in favor. But you can't. Um, you can't.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't bench him completely, like he can't just sit

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>him down for the rest of the year. It's the

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>most physical position on defense. You're gonna get hurt, YadA YadA.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>But when Sean Lee is ready to play, I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would absolutely try to platoon them to try to

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, if he's playing ninety eight percent of

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the snaps right now, drop it down into the sixties

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>or seventies, try to do something to offset that. But

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree with the premise of the question that he's

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>not playing well enough to deserve one hundred percent of

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the snaps. But there are only so many things you

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>can do about it. Yeah, you got no options right now? Yeah?

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>All right? Um, Nick, was there something that you were

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>going to add? I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't, just because

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't see who like for what, you know, like

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>who's who's coming in? Yeah? Who for what? I mean?

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee? Yeah, I like the platoon system. I think

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that would be better for all of them to kind

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of do that, and Joe Thomas can still play something

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I just I think it's a scheme thing.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've got to figure out as I watched Jalen,

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like attack the quarterback. They've got to figure

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>out ways where he can be effective. And I you know,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying that all offseason. I just don't think

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that they they've done a good job with that. But

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not I mean, what is it, like, what is

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that I think he's got to go north? He can't really,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's a sidelined to sideline player

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>anymore in this day and age. I don't. That's that's

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna cut it unfortunately. I mean, you're right if

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they want to transition him. We talked about it so

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>much in the offseason about him rushing the passer a

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. If you want to try to transition

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>him to being a DPR, the hell of an expensive DPR.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if that's what you want to do,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fine with me. You think, like you said, nobody

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>would want him. I mean, I think there's probably a

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>team that would be like, oh, I could do something

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>with him because all defensive coordinates, all coaches are heavy.

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>You mean, use him in a certain role. Yeah, okay,

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>but is he so? I'm sorry, I don't want to

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>cut you think he's a three four rusher. I don't know.

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see him try that, but I

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>feel that we've seen it with the Cowboys in previous years,

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>where there are certain players that maybe might not be

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>as impressive, but the coaching staff always think that they

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>can convert a player into someone better on the field.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying, but I mean, if you

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>trade Jalen Smith, it's gonna kill your cap. I don't

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>know the numbers off top of my hand, but it's

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>not going to be good. This year is not the

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>year and a team you know. Yeah. I mean if

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you were just desperate to get rid of him and

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody was like, we'll give you a sixth, sure, but

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>is it worth it to do that, to just destroy

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>your cap to get basically nothing in return. Here's I'll

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>answer that. I will say that by next year, I

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>personally don't think it would be a good idea for

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys to go into the season next year with

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>him being a starting linebacker for them. That is the

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>best answer I can give you. I don't think they

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of options right now because I don't

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>think its sarily does you any good to take him

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>off field right now with what you got left? If

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys don't address the linebacker position in a major

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>way this offseason, to meet that as a mistake and

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a part of doing that means most likely the first

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>person that you're going to be taking off the field

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be Jalen in my opinion, So I think

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that's how they have to address it. I think that's

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>really the issue is by next year, I don't think

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a good idea to go into the season with

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>him being a major part of what you're doing on defense.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think next year, though, doesn't make a lot of

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>sense just from a standpoint of cap because it will

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>be a straight wash next year. So unless he's that

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>much of a problem in the locker room, which I

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think that he is, where you're like, he's got

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to be away from this team. So if it's just

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a wash, I think i'd rather have the player. Yeah,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but I'm saying he should not be on

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>he should not be a starter for you. He should

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>be a guy that is a backup player or a

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>role player for you. I don't think you should go

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>into next year, even with the money being the money,

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's where you get yourself in trouble saying, well,

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>because we got a money, we got to play the player. No,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't. You may to keep him on your team

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and you use him his insurance, that doesn't mean you

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>have to play him. Then you better draft Yeah, I agree,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Then you better draft a second or third rounder, if

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not a first, to say you know you're gonna make

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:11.959
<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand and you have to be our starter.

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Exactly right. Every single year there is a player who

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like he is at the center of the offseason storylines,

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't live up to his contract, talking about cutting him

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>June one cut, contract restructure. Sometimes it works out and

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they stay. I mean, people have been trying to get

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>rid of Tyrone Crawford for years. He stayed, Brandon Carr

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>restructured his contract, stayed. Des Bryant got cut. But it

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>happens all. It happens almost every year where a big

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>money guy is at the epicenter of this offseason, and

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 1>it'll be Jalen Smith in twenty twenty one. It will

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>be and I don't know for sure what's going to happen,

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but every time we have and I mean hopefully life

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit more normal and we can actually

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>talk to Stephen and Jerry Jones a little bit more often.

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>But he will be the guy that we're asking about

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>at the Combine or the Combined Zoom conference, whatever the

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>hell it looks like. We'll be like we're gonna do

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>with Jalen Smith likes that's what's coming. And the question

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>will be what does Jalen think of his own play?

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Because if he thinks that, oh, I'm still just as

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>good as ever, then you get to that situation where

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like, will you take a pay cut? And maybe

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he says, I don't take a pay cut. Cut me,

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'll see what happens on the open market. If

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>he knows that his skills are declining and he knows

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>that he's not playing very well, he may look at

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that and say, I'm willing to take a pay cut

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>because I want to just keep playing. I don't know,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>because I will say this, I think that at the

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time that he did the deal, I think most people,

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.959
<v Speaker 1>myself included, thought the deal was actually more slant toward

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the cowboys because he could have waited and maybe got

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>more money. And there is some thought that maybe he

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>did that deal at that time because he knew I

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>need to cash in. Now. I don't know what my

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>situation will be later, and now we're seeing his situation later, right,

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>So all I'm saying is, I don't I don't know

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>if he's honest enough with himself to be able to

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>make that kind of evaluation. But you know, if he is,

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that I think will be at the upper center of

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the decision on whether they he will take a pay

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>cut if they if they try to force him to

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>do that or not. All right, next washing should be

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>an easy answer, all right, not an easy, but quick answer.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>We talked a lot about Benducci. Well, Bendyucci through his

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>first touchdown pass this weekend. See you know no, see

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it'll be a deep pass to Michael Gallop touchdown. Okay.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I liked your idea, Like, I think, just he's got

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>he's got a big arm. Like, what's the worst is

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? You just sling it down field and you

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hope either he catches it or you get a pass interference.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you take a couple shots. You know that

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have about eight in the box, Yeah, maybe nine.

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're gonna they're gonna sing. Yeah, he's

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>got a big arm. Yeah, I can see it happening. Okay,

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>we're only five days removed from Sunday, guys. And that

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>was That was Andy Dalton, and I mean for for

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>more than half of the game at least, that was

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And I mean Zach will be back. I think the

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>world of Zach Martin. I can't convinced myself that that'll

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>be enough of a difference that I just I feel

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>bad for everybody involved. But when you're dealing with this

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of loss, like it looks like some of the

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>bad high school football that I've covered, where there's just

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot you can do and unless if

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>it happens, it'll be a busted play where you know,

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>some you know, Gallop gets behind somebody and Danucci throws

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it up, which is totally possible. Not saying it's impossible,

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I think no. And by the way, that's

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>not me saying that I think he's gonna have some

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>marvelous game where he's gonna throw over three hundred yards

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and just light up this Eagles. That's not what I'm

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>saying at all. Do I think that he can get

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of the ball downfield and Gallop happens

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to be open and here we go touchdown. I do

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 1>think that's possible. I think it's very possible. We shall

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>see on Sunday. We shall all Right, the Cowboys got

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>rid of or said by two three of the varin

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>veteran free agents. I don't think they said by. I

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think I just think they hung up. Wow. I

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 1>really think Ontari Poe was like my card, like didn't

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>even get you get getting like the you know, coach

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>wants to see you in his office. Deal, No, I

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think all right, how are you guys expecting any

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>other moves before the deadline. If there's one thing I've learned,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it's that you should never say never. But I still

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>think no, because I actually wrote about this today, like

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, their national publication and like, obviously cowboys get clicks.

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But people are like, oh, the Cowboys are in cell mode.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>No they're not. They got rid of a one year

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>rental player and two bad veterans. Like, that's not a

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>fire sale, right, Miami did a fire sale. They traded

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>their franchise left tackle and their veteran receiver and all,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and they dealt Robert Quinn to Dallas. They dealt their

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback away. That's a fire sale. This is just

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a bad team purging some unnecessary guys. And you know,

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 1>here's my question for you guys. Do you think that

0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>at all the guys that they got rid of they

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>got rid of them not only because of the way

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>they played, but also because maybe there was a thought

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that some of the talk that was coming out of

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the locker room, as anonymous sources may have been in

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that group of players. Maybe, I mean, I mean, Griffin's

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>name was mentioned as possible here because he and that

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>happens when you when you say some things like he

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>did earlier about you know, just not used to this

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>scheme and and all that. But you know, I think

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that I think it was sending a message. I really do.

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I hope that you know,

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>people in the locker room can you know, accept it,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>But but I think it was. I think it was like, hey,

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's time to to you know, we got to do

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>something here. We can't just sit there and and and

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>continue to do what we've done. And so I think

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Dave's right. I mean, this is this is

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do other than the fact that for this

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 1>season they were kp for this season. I'm not saying

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that they haven't in their career, but they weren't. They

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>weren't good, they weren't playing. And you know, it's sad

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that Jerry had to come out and call out Dontari

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Poe that way. But I don't know why he did it,

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because he's because he's not he doesn't want to get

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>called out for other reasons when clearly that wasn't the case.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>And we'll find out how much that's the case, Let's

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>see who signs Poe if anyone else signs him. I mean,

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>well you've already have you already heard that. I saw

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a tweet the yesterday where there was someone saying, you know,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been right since some injury that he had,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and so he's going to take a month to be

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of get himself right, and then this

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>might be a late season signing for someone. So what

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>we will see is is it a late season signing

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and when he gets back in there, is he able

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to do something? Because I will say this, you look

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>at his numbers from last year, his numbers weren't bad,

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like he was a productive player statistically last season. Now,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.439
<v Speaker 1>when you want to think about it, overall, that run

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>defense wasn't great, And anytime the run defense isn't great,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna look at the nose tackle and the

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>defensive end in a three to four because they're probably

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>a part of that. But that all being and said,

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I do think that, you know, maybe there is something

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that he wasn't healthy that that may

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>have contributed to him gaining weight and he didn't come

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>in quite ready to play, and maybe he needs to

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>get himself right and maybe he can get back to

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>playing as he played last year to some degree. Very

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's easy to demonize the guy that got cut,

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and we don't, you know, we haven't gotten to know

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>these guys the way that we normally would. But he

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was always super professional and seemed like a very nice guy,

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>had some you know, I think on one or two

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>occasions he talked about why he was protesting, and he

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>was very eloquent about it, like he clearly put a

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of thought into it. So, I mean, I don't

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>have anything bad to say about the guy other than

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that he did not play very well for this defense.

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you could see that like that was very

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>very playing. You could see he wasn't playing well. Maybe

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>there are reasons for it, maybe there aren't, but he

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't playing well well. He goes back to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the conversations that I've started to see recently,

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<v Speaker 1>whether the coaching staff did enough of a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of evaloading some of these free a agents before they

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<v Speaker 1>signed them. But here's the final question. If we have

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<v Speaker 1>number one more, do you guys see any coaching changes

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<v Speaker 1>happening mid season or at some point before the season ends.

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<v Speaker 1>If it keeps up like this, see, I mean, see,

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<v Speaker 1>think about how bad, like how bad it feels, how

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not fun being here right now. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not just because we're outside like the team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't great, but just the vibe in the building sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>When the team is struggling like this. It always has,

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<v Speaker 1>it always will And they're only two and five. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not even at the halfway point. And if this keeps up.

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<v Speaker 1>See and I'm not not Mike McCarthy, but the defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>the DBS coach, like I hate to like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to throw people under the bus, but if if

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like this nine more times with no side

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<v Speaker 1>of him, I mean, are you kidding me? And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, don't forget they have what people are saying

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<v Speaker 1>is the easiest schedule down the stretch in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the teams they will have to play.

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<v Speaker 1>If it looks like it looked last week against that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what I've heard is they have the easiest schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it looks like it looked against the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>football team, which we know they aren't you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a great offense, but they look pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>that day. If you got more of those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>games against teams that are like that, then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think at some point something has to change if they start,

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<v Speaker 1>if they start scrapping, and like I could bring up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen all the time, like, go watch those games.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't look like this. They were. Those games were

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking in their own right because you're like, they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the best they can with what they got and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not good enough. That's not what this has been.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it stays like that, then who knows what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. That is a rap. We appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>guys joining us for the Fun Town RV tailgate. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow. We'll be doing the same thing. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a little bit warmer, a little less windy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll still have some great opinions from these guys

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<v Speaker 1>until tomorrow. From Nick Eatman, Dave Elm and Ambergarcia. I'm

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