1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving, 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: not yet. I was hoping you'll say that you gotta 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: hit the streets make some money, maybe like us Let's destroyed. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Maybe like Captain by Collup. Get Showtime free at Showtime 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: dot com. My brother, jack you back. All the Smoke 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: just getting started, baby, just getting started. Welcome back to 7 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: another Quarantine edition of All the Smoke. Well, my brother 8 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: stack Jackson, my brother, my brother, my brother. Welcome back, Jesse. 9 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: It's good to see you you too, my boy. I 10 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: got a question, brok um, how come you used to 11 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: rock that cop mustache all the time? That mustache that 12 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: was like your go to What? What? What was going 13 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: through your head when you just used to have just 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: a straight CP mustache. It's a good story behind that. Well. See, 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I had gray hairs right here growing at an early 16 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: age dog and right all of here my my gote areas, 17 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to wear a goatee, so I 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: just kept the porn on mustache. It was nice and neat, 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah people liked it like I like making 20 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: fun of it. I ain't really never been able to 21 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: really grow no real real face your hair to make sense, either, 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: but you had just she has shaved up and it 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: went right to the court like a real cop, like 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I was to call a couple of times with you. You 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: You called the Durran Jeremy. Your ship was thinner than 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: your ship was thinner than his. Though. Hey man, you 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: got a special guess, man, something that you've you've known 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: for a long time of want I want to give 29 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: you the honors man, introduce your man all right? Man, 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: say man, I got to introduce my brother, um, one 31 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: of the realest cats to ever touch of football. I 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: call him Baby Dion Saunders. Been a friend of mine 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: for a long time. Man, the honorable. Everybody gonna love 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: this episode. Everybody's been asking to have him on. My 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: brother Adam pac Man, Jones pac Man, welcome, appreciate man. 36 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: What's up? What's going on? What's up with you? My boy? Man? 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I can't call him man. Bless them quarantine days. Yeah, 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: we're all doing that right now. Jesus Christ. Hey man, 39 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: thanks for coming out. But what you're going what you 40 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: got going on? Right now? Man? I know, like everybody 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: quarantine right now? How's the family? How everything? You know? 42 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I know you've been retired. You no, you're doing the 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: golf life. Tell me what you got going on right now. 44 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Some retirement, by the way, Cort, some retirement, man, I appreciate. 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate. Man. Years Yeah, fifteen years. They gave me 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: credit for thirteen, but fifteen really but through the up 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and down too. Yeah. But you know, I'm just enjoying 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: these kids, man. I know my my daughter's there being 49 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: out of school. So we had a comic book that 50 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: we had put together called Action Pack, and so the 51 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: kids didn't have to work at first. So we passed 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: this out in the community, over three hundred books so 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: the kids can have something to do. You guys created 54 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: you guys created the book. Yeah from scratch, man, we 55 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: had We worked with a couple of artists. Um as 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you can see, but um yeah, man, and my wife 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: we did this totally. She came up with the whole storyline. 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I drew somebody kept most of the characters in here. 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: And it's a good book, man. It's it's talk talking 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: about anti bullying, treating people how you want to be treated. 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, man play to 62 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah yeah, I love I love that 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: because I think you looked at in the similar eyes 64 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: of myself and Jack Wild looked at it as someone 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: who was miss misconstrued. And they have they have a 66 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: perception of who they think you are because they see 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the bullshit clippings only when bad ship happens, and then 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: they don't get a chance to know the real person. 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: And I think, I said, Jack and I have something. 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Jack and I have gone through. Uh and and I'm 71 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: sure you're in the similar shoes with that. But but 72 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: but but seeing stuff you're doing with the kids and 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, I love showing that side because, 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: like I said, not enough time. It's only the bullshit 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: that gets recognized. They never get to see peel back 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: the layers and see what we really got going on. 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's how they want to do though. Man, 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: you know they're not gonna show like the three hundred 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: and fifty bikes that we have given out the last 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: thirteen years here in Cincinnati. Um, in the NN city. 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, we've done so much. We've gave three scholarships. 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: I had some loyal fans here that stuck with me 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: through thinking. Then you know when when when she was 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: hitting the fans and everybody was saying, oh, this is 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen that was gonna happen, you know. Um me personally, 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I think Mr Brown, we didn't. We didn't end it 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: the way that we wanted to end. But he was 88 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: very loyal to me man and stuck by me a 89 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent. And um they had a lot 90 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: to do with Coach Mark too. So like I'm home 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati for me. I know, I'm from Atlanta. UM, 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: I love Atlanta. I go to Atlanta often, still have 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a home in Atlanta, but Cincinnati is home to me 94 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: and I love the community or I love what I'm 95 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: building here. I'm working on different adventures in the city 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: and have a restaurant, UM, working on some property, doing 97 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: this and doing that, and don't have a lot of 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: guys around me that's heaving me. Um, just trying to 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: build what I'm trying to do. So you don't get 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: that in certain cities. I'm like, I know Atlanta, I 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: love Atlanta, but I can't go and build the relationship 102 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: that I've built here over the last ten years. Um. 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean I trust me. I know he like too, 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: but I got here. I know you ain't know he 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: can't move about here and you know it gets to 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: a point in time where these kids is what you're 107 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: living from. Man. I know, like I love waking up 108 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: every morning hear my son streaming from upstairs, Adam Jones. 109 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm I get a thrill of right now, 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, man, father, Yeah, tell me what that slide. 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Because I was you know, I played you know, fifteen 112 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: years and had a had a contract for two more years, 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: but I happened to luck up and when the championship 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: will Golden State, and I retired early because I wanted 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: to do just that. I wanted to spend more time 116 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: with my kids. I felt like I was missing a 117 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: lot of important times in their lives because I was 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: in one city there and another. So talk to me 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: about what retirements like, because that's to me, that's the 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: best part, is being able to get up every day 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: and be with your kids. UM See, I come from 122 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: the broken background, so I've always wanted to have a structure, 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, household, you know what I mean as far 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: as a wife, kids, growing up, being in your kids life. 125 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Because I didn't have that. 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Um and I you realize you're like, damn, man, I'm 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: missing so much time and thank god. I had two 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: girls first, you know what I mean, So I kind 129 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: of got spoiled and and had my son last. So 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I get to see, you know, the first time you 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: get to go to the you know, the first time 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, he waking up screaming, Adam Jones. You know. 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: So we run. We're running Foe Withers together every day. 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: So it's a venture just to be and watch and 135 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: see the growth and see like, hey man, I wanted 136 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: to be like that bad so you know what I mean. 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Like the other day he set up a ball in 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: the living room, the little tea ball thing, and it 139 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: was it wasn't the tea ball, but it was a 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: dodge ball smack boom buzz. Wanted to look glass. But 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, in two years old, everything that you know 142 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, But like it's amazing man, and and 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: and that's probably the biggest feeling in the world, you know, 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: besides running off in that tone, you know what I mean, 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: and eager to see like damn, I want to see 146 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: how good he could be, you know what I mean. Yeah, 147 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: that's that's that's moment you can't get back, bro. You 148 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that that's price that's prices moments, 149 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what you're doing it for. Men. Like 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you said, we come from broken homes. You know me, 151 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: you broke come from broken homes. I didn't. I didn't 152 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: have my father, And obviously, you know what I'm saying, 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have all my kids in the house. 154 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: But just being uh, you know what I'm say, having 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: those experiences with him, you know what I'm saying, knowing 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't have them with your father, you know 157 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that means a lot to me. So 158 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I understand totally where you're coming from. But beside, besides 159 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: your kids, I don't know if any kids play sports, 160 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: but you do camps, You do all kind of stuff 161 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: involving kids. Talk about that. Oh yeah, so um, I 162 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: do all of well most of the camps because all 163 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden want them. And Dion is my father, 164 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: like a father figure to me. Or we just had 165 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: him all, we just had him all. Whatever you want 166 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: to say, like um, like I bleed, breede, bleed and 167 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: sleep whatever that man says right there. But he's a 168 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: great person to me. He always been there for me, 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was some Most of 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: the success that I've had in my lady career comes 171 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: from what he's done from me and the jobs I've got, 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, the phone calls and relationship, you know, because 173 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: it was the time, you know, like nobody wanted to 174 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: take a chance on me, back on you. I went 175 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: with D. I stayed with D for like two months. 176 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: He called Mike Zamber, called Mike Zamber. I came here 177 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: and worked out with the Bengals where actually he called 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: him the first time and called me. He's like, Yo, 179 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: they want you to come right now if you want 180 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: to work out. Like man, Bro, I've been out for 181 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: a whole year. I ain't need no shape to workout. 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: And he was like, Yo, you're gonna tell them you 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: ain't gonna work out. So I was like, yeah, I go. 184 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: So I came up to Cincinnati. Bro. It was twenty 185 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: two degrees. Bro just had seven inches of snow they 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: shove have on the field. Off its like, come on, 187 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: let's go with me. I'll never forget this was me, 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: uh the Jones kid, the wine receiver who came from 189 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: the jag wars Man. It was so called. I didn't 190 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: even finished the workout, so I end up I lived 191 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: so so ZM and ZM and he brom in there. 192 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: He said, Hey, I'm just saying them Marvleman. He say, look, 193 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: you got three weeks, man, We're gonna bring you back 194 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: in three weeks. You better be ready in three weeks. 195 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't have worked out for three weeks. And 196 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: that that started my story here back in two thousand nine. 197 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: But if I wanted to have the relationship with with Dion, 198 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: if if I wasn't taking the time to set up 199 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: different things and treat people right, you never know who 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna need, you know what I mean. And and 201 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: that's what I try to teach my kids, like you 202 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: never know, like it can be, you would never you 203 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: would never know who knows who know? You know what 204 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, for instance, I was doing the wrestling right, 205 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: so the lazy the lady who owned ten A was Dixie. 206 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: So Dixie was best friends with Jerry Jones. That's how 207 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I got the Dallas. She asked, I can't, I cannot 208 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: make this up. She said, If you could choose one 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: team who you want to play for? I said, the Cowboys. 210 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Swear to God, God strike me down right now. The 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: next day I had Jerry on the phone. He was like, 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: so you really want to come here? Like, yeah, now 213 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: I was in Dallas like two months before anybody knew that. 214 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't even going to Dallas, you know what I'm saying. 215 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Always had in prosper Texas, man, Like, so like every 216 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: my life has been like because you know, I had 217 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: mother and down like and I ain't shoying away from 218 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: I like fighting, I've had this and that go on. 219 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: But like the people that that I've treated and the 220 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: people that I've met, I would say that I built 221 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: relationship to it just because of how you treat people. Man. Yeah, yeah, 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: you know at that time, I had been suspending the 223 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: whole year, you know what I mean, Like really I 224 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: was thinking, like do I really want to do this again? 225 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right? Is it worth going 226 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: through all that ship again? Yeah? We you know, we 227 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: were similar, you know, you know with the broad ship 228 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: with me. You know, I know I missed at least 229 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: three solid All Star games just because I ran into 230 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the stands and patched the fan. They stopped looking at 231 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: my play just like they did. You. It's not looking 232 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: at everything you've done. They stopped looking at your play. 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: My Ricky. Yeah, I was Ricky of the Year. Well 234 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I ain't made defense Rickie year, but I was Special 235 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Team Ricky of the Year. My second year, I was 236 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: second team All Pro. I had just was I was 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: just buying the sign a sixty million dollar extension. And 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: then that's when I got in Trumble in Vegas. Then 239 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: so I get in Trumpor and Vegas and missed two 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: of my prime years. I was twenty three, twenty four, 241 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. I came back at twenty I think six 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: when I went to Dallas. Dallas now twenty four when 243 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to twenty five when I went to Delas. 244 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: When I went to Dallas, I think, But like, I 245 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: missed a lot of my prime Like where when I 246 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: was I could wake up in the morning and run 247 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: FO to five with just like without scretching and not 248 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: doing nothing. You know what I'm saying. That's why I 249 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: called him baby D. That's why I called him baby D. 250 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: Like like I said, I've been knowing I've been knowing 251 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: him for a while, you know what I'm saying. We 252 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of the same people. A lot of 253 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: home was around the A. But I've been on I've 254 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: been called I've been calling that baby deal. But like 255 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I said, we we are very similar, you know what 256 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We went, we went through a lot of stuff, 257 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: but that that that's not who we are, you know 258 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's good. That's one reason why I 259 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: wanted to have you on the show. Just like I 260 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: told you, you know, I was out the side Jack, 261 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: we came back and bold in all later careers though exactly, yeah, 262 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: yeah we came We were making all pro and probos 263 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: at thirty two years old. Man, yeah, yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir, 264 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: don't stop when it rang. Come on, man, y'all touch on. 265 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: How y'all met. We met through mutual friends though we 266 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: was always seeing each other out though in the streets. 267 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: That was that the same thing I said always and 268 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: like we bunned it because like how they was with 269 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: me is how they was with Jack, you know what 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Like we yeah, we didn't demand the respect, 271 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: but I would say, like we had respect of the 272 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: same guy that was in the street doing what they 273 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: wanted to do, you know what I mean. Like exactly 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: we was. We was in the city when it was 275 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the real age. Yeah, being and all that it's being 276 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: me and pac Man exactly. Yeah, facts, Yeah, there was 277 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: the days we had. We had some days by doing 278 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: some good days though. Yeah, but um, it's a different 279 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: breed now though. These young kids don't have no, no 280 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: sense of respect of lords if you ask me, man like, 281 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: like we grew up like kids and women was off limits, 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: like period, point blank. Like you must respect women, you 283 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: must respect the kids. And like these days where they 284 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: don't care about nothing around here, nothing looking, nothing at all, 285 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: and it's clear to see out here too. Yeah. Yeah, 286 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: so mean how you gutt? I was gonna say, tell 287 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: me how you're off, because I know how it changed me. 288 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I know how it changed Jack. Tell me how you're 289 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: off the field ups and downs? Uh help shape you 290 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: into being over to, like you said, focus and come 291 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: back lady in your career and still kind of be 292 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: so much further head mentally, you know what I mean. 293 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: You were still able to perform at a high level 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: because you would down with it, meant to be mentally 295 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: locked in. But I think a lot of the ship 296 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: me personally off the court helped me do that later 297 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: in my career, all that you made in my legend. Hey, yeah, 298 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: but you know, at first, like well, I'm gonna speak 299 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: for myself, like like I come from ship, so like 300 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I got drafted years old. You didn't say I was 301 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the first defensive player pick man, I had so many 302 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: shysters around me, Like it's so moving so fast, you 303 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I never and I ain't had 304 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: no kids at that time, so like it was play football, 305 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: take him a party. Yeah, I'm saying yeah that as 306 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a kid, you know, because think about it, man, all right, 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: you grow up playing with kids. I'm the only child. 308 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: You grow up with these playing football with these kids, 309 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: so used to being around kids. You go to college, 310 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean high school. Guess what, you around some oat kids, 311 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: all your football homes, all your basketball homes. Then you 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: the college or then you're definitely around your homeboys. Then 313 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: you go to the league. Then they say, don't keep 314 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: your homeboys around him. How the hell are you gonna 315 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: tell a kid that that's so used to a certain colt, 316 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And however, and then just say, hey, 317 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: you cannot post. You ain't supposed to do that at all. 318 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm impossible. It's impossible, but it's a way 319 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: to to give and and and and and let go 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: but it takes time, is what I'm trying to say. 321 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like if you wanted for 322 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: my kids, but I can. I don't even know where 323 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: i'd be right now to you that you because I 324 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: would just living to leave at one point. You know 325 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: what I mean. I want to living for nobody else. 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: But when you have them kids, they open up your eyes. 327 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. I don't know. I 328 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know too many that ma I can call on. 329 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like my my family is small, 330 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm the oldest male on my dad's side. My 331 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: mom got five brothers and sisters. I mean five, it's 332 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: five of them. And all besides that, you know what 333 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, My grandmother and granddad had gonna passed away. 334 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: We got cousins and nieces. But like um mentally, Hi, 335 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: I see, like my kids all I've gotten. You get 336 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I refused to let them down 337 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: when it comes any form of fashion. You know what 338 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But back then, we weren't thinking about that. Man, 339 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm thinking about kids. I don't even think 340 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: about having no kids, not at all. You know. I 341 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: was like and like you were saying, we grew up 342 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: in the house and no farther. So I said this 343 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: all the time. A lot of stuff that we our 344 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: funk ups and mishaps in life of the stuff that 345 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: we have to learn on the fly because we weren't 346 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: taught it. You know what I'm saying, coming coming from nothing, 347 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: that comes from nothing to having all this money. How 348 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: we are? How are we told to haw? I do right? 349 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll try to keep everybody happy with this is all 350 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: throwing at us is one time. And that's another reason 351 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: why I kill Lebron is credit because like just some 352 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: football and basketball is all the same. We all try 353 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: to bring our homeboys along and get it done right 354 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: and put them all the place to win. Lebron is 355 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: the first person to do it right. And we've both 356 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: been brought and tried to bring out our homeboys along 357 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: and do the same thing. Man, I salute bro, you 358 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But boys know what I'm saying. 359 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: I wish I was but work. Like I was trying 360 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: to think out how to stay alive. My daddy got 361 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: in front of me. You know, like little mental things 362 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: that you tell me about that, do tell me about that? 363 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: Nobody know like I'm bipolar, but I've never told nobody 364 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: nothing about my bipolar because I didn't want it to 365 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: interfere with nothing else. You get what I'm saying, But 366 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: different things that I've dealt with on the fly and 367 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: only between me, my household, my wife, and my doctors. 368 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean that people don't understand, Like 369 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: why ain't it just so short fused? And you know 370 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, It takes time to figure out a Look, man, 371 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I need to sit back and cheer for a second. 372 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Or this ain't This ain't the kind of surrounded that 373 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: I want to be in. You get what I'm saying. 374 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Or this is not what I want to lose to 375 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: for that over there. You get what I'm saying. So 376 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I love it take times, bro. And and when I 377 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: was playing football, I ain't want to take no medicine 378 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't want it to take away from my 379 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: my passion for what I was doing. You get what 380 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Damn where we came here to him, I 381 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: want to take the messing hill. No, I ain't taking 382 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the medicine when I'm playing at the top level, and 383 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: I ain't never took this. And then you're gonna till 384 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: me to take someone. I'm playing at the top level 385 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I ever played that. I now you want to say, 386 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: hey man, you might need to take us nowhere in 387 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: hell like if it ain't broke, don't get what I'm saying. 388 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: So you I got to figure out, hey, look, how 389 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: I want to make this work too. I figured out, hey, 390 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: look that it's time to move on from this and 391 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: get my life together with me and my kids and 392 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: my family. You get what I'm saying. So it takes 393 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: time and and and for each his own. You know, 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: everybody ain't gonna do it the way they that they 395 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: rolled playing. But I'm not here to judge nobody. But like, 396 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: as long as you figured out my mama, so I'm happy, 397 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm content, like my kids 398 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: were good. Um, I got everything I want. You know 399 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? Pretty much? You know what I man, 400 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: I got great relationship with my family like I ain't. 401 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I ain't got no no, no, no problems, you know 402 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. So life is good over here. Man, 403 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: bro I didn't that's my first time here. As long 404 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: as ever then I ain't know you're seeing your pops 405 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: pass in front of you yeah, yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, 406 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know that. I just did. Um. 407 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't talk about it too much, but I did 408 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: a couple of speeches like I did, and I had 409 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: my thing when I did it with d n Um, 410 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I opened up and told my host story there. I've 411 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: done it probably two times at the camps. Um. But yeah, 412 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: you might share that story with us. Oh no, um, everybody. 413 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I grew up in Burnka Bankake projects with them from 414 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: um my west side, that's the west side. Yeah, I 415 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: would say west side. You know, that's where I live. 416 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: That's that's why I left side. He kept up with 417 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: the tea each other and that's where I lived there, Yeah, 418 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: west side. They changed the holloway now when I was 419 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: living that Yeah, yeah, they they don't clean it up now. 420 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: But like if you Louis blue Flame, make that live 421 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: grow over the bridge all this bank Kid over there. 422 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: And then I moved from bank Kid the boat where 423 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: a boat right, Well it might be worse than Bankhead 424 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: really to tell you the truth. But Apostle just moving 425 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: too fast man and ran off on the wrong person. 426 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: And um, we was all outside and they came up 427 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and Brown to build it, you know what I mean, 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: shot right in his head. My head looked like a 429 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: water millon um and yeah. Then yeah, my uncle died 430 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: a year later after that, and then my other uncle 431 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: got stabbed on the plus of the year that I said, Man, 432 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: all these nigga got bad, look man, and um, I 433 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: didn't go for my twenty one fifth birthday, Bro, I 434 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: didn't go nowhere, like no, my wife. We stayed in 435 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: the house and did what we did, but we didn't 436 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: go nowhere because it was the soul of a pivotal point, 437 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, in my life, because none of them made 438 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: to see twenty five mm hm non nom yeah yeah. 439 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: So and then like that that that came with some 440 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: of the anger and in the frustration and not learning 441 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: how to deal with it because I didn't have the tools, 442 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We was in the project. 443 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: My grandmother didn't have the fucking tools to take me 444 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: to go and see a motherfucker that I can talk 445 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: to it with, you know what I'm saying. So it 446 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: was a go out ahead, take your stretch out with these. 447 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: So anybody who wanted y'all come on. So like not 448 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: just being a bullet, but it was just it was yeah, yeah, yeah, 449 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: not not not like they're going picking on picking on nobody. 450 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: I ain't saying that, but I'm just saying like if 451 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: it got time like any a birth put him up, 452 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: like if you would have got any problems like but 453 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: and then you it's some time though, But I'm telling 454 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: you where like I used to fight, like I used 455 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: to get paid to go and fighting other neighborhoods. Like 456 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: its crazy, but that's a whole. But I think it's 457 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: it's crazy because they never they never know, like you 458 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: touched on we touched on this before. When we do flash, 459 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: they never take the time to ask why or figure 460 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: out why. It's just a he's a bad he's he 461 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: started labeling you. He's a bad person, he's this, he's that, 462 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: not knowing that that that past has a lot to 463 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: do obviously with who we are as met I got outlets, no, 464 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I got stuff that I 465 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: could see, the triggers that theyn't gonna talk to somebody, 466 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: Hey man, look this this is right. He don't feel right. Uh, 467 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: it's how I'm feeling about this, you know what I mean. 468 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: But when you don't have no outlets and nothing else 469 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: to dud would think about everything. Oh, day's setting up 470 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: in a room that then the same size as the 471 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: jail cell, you know what I mean, and then getting 472 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: the going outside. So you know, I'm not saying that 473 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: that that's an excuse. And then you know what I mean, 474 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that people did with it. People did 475 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: with it in different ways. Man, that's all. Yeah. Yeah, man, 476 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: let's let's lets let's payot the basketball. Let's let let's 477 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: pat the basketball. I appreciate you sharing that story with 478 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: you about about your pops, bro. That was you didn't know, 479 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: you didn't have to, but I appreciate you sharing that 480 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: with us basketball. Who you're team in basketball. I know 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: you watched basketball a lot. I know you hooped a 482 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: little bit too. Right. He was an All American in 483 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: high school basketball, right, he was? He was, he was 484 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: he was last say, two national championships. Yeah, yeah, he 485 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: was athletes. Yeah, I love it, alright. So the honest 486 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: truth is you're gonna fish I go wherever Lebron go. 487 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Ain't surprised very point blame you know what I mean, 488 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: everywhere Brian go I go. And I've been successful with 489 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: doing that. So yeah, this is the first time. My 490 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: household have a length of jergy on. My wife is 491 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: a leak of fan, and this is ship so unbelievable 492 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: that the season is over with right now because he 493 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: was on the same thing. Yea, yeah, we all, we all, 494 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: we all mad this season no basketball. Man, We're like 495 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: guy like Deance, We're glad that ain't happen to the 496 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: football seas, but not having basketball that's kind of messing 497 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: everybody up. So we're trying to you know, feel that 498 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: feel all the basket about MS boys with this show. 499 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: So you're helping the coming out. I appreciate you. Man. Man, 500 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: that's just crazy to show you, like how much sports 501 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: plays into not just like everybody going to the NBA. 502 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this in life. You know what, people 503 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: carping together, getting stuff done. You know. Um, you know 504 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't catch you. Y'all got some teammates just running 505 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: some fortunate five hundred companies. You grew up. You know 506 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? That you play you with you know 507 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? Um, But like sports is an outlet 508 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: to everything, man, You know what I mean, any and everything. 509 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: If you ask me who you got winning it? And 510 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: with basketball, yeah, who you got it? Comes back. Yeah, 511 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: like with brun having these couple of weeks off and 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: a d having even Oh man, come man, that's that's 513 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: what I said, talk to talk to him. Pack gonna 514 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: be about the ram man. I just yea to clip. 515 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: But you said the clips did Lakers and I grew up. 516 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm a Laker fan at the heart, But I feel 517 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be the Clippers. I just think the 518 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: Clippers have a little bit more. Why wouldn't to me, whoever, 519 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: whoever big the White's been big for him come out 520 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, yeah, now he's he's he's that key key. 521 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: I would keep people that whoever wein't gonna come out 522 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: of l A. I would, yeah, I think, But I 523 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: just I just don't think. I just don't think them 524 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: boils over. They got no juice when they come down 525 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: to it. M hm. He did it one time, but 526 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: he didn't do it with them. We're gonna see, we're 527 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: definitely gonna Hey talk about talk about cannabis in sports, 528 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: and I know you're involved in the cannabis business a 529 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit. Is that something you did while you played, 530 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: because you know, Jack and I are big advocates on it. 531 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: We spoke during all throughout our careers, and we we 532 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: like knowing if other people at the highest level did 533 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: as well. Um, I've never stopped smoking, and none of 534 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: my not not one time I've played. I've smoked before 535 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: every game I go home, give me one in them 536 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: if we If we play at one o'clock, I hit 537 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: one of eight thirty, I'm ready to go. Um we 538 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: play a night game, I only hit one at two o'clock, 539 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. But like I'm so happy, like 540 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: here and on, how y'all have medical Marijuanda, you know 541 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? But I read a smoke weed and 542 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: take two hundred purposes anything, you know what I mean. 543 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: And because they're giving out the purposes that you can 544 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: get them by the hunting, I mean by the month. 545 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Hercus and that's that's that's 546 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: doing way mold and it's drawing your body eyes doing everything. 547 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: One cool question, I forgot to actually pack your favorite matchups? 548 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: My favorite matchup, like we want to hear them all? 549 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Non no, give us, give us, give us all of them. 550 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was my favorite matchup man be and um, 551 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: he don't got me a couple of times. But I 552 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: don't got him too though, but I'm like they're talking 553 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: to I'm like the player. Yeah, I'm like the only 554 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: player that's gonna kept him like up on the huney 555 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: of Y's like at least five six times. You know 556 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what what you know what's 557 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: he hears is you're gonna get him talking. I know 558 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: that's my boy. Man. I love the rondo against him. 559 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: His highlight highlight. Really, he double moved me one time 560 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh UM, and we was in the zero blitz 561 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: and I jumped he probably I jumped it on that one, 562 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: but I gotta pick on the only probably game later 563 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: in the same courage when being tried to throw a slant. 564 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: So you know, give me go. I love right um 565 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the ho ho who used to play with the Texans 566 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: who just went to um yeah, where you go to Arizona. Man, 567 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: that used to be like one of my favorite favorite 568 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: matchups because man, we would fight the whole game. Like 569 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at our games, like 570 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: we wouldn't fight the whole game. But man, he was 571 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: a dog too. Uh men teo um. When I played 572 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: at Dallas, like I followed to Yo the whole camp 573 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: in Dallas, and like they only showed to show the 574 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: parts what he wont But I got TiO as a 575 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: couple of times too. Um he big yeah yeah yeah um. 576 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: And then last probably be uh Jimmie Smith when he 577 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: played with the Jaguar. Yeah, yeah, he was sweet. I 578 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: used to call him sweet Jimmy boy. He ran some 579 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: of the best routes and like I played against him 580 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: my first two years and um, like I would study 581 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy like man I and he killed me the first 582 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: time I played with him. Oh my god, it beat 583 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: us by like seven, but I had a bad game 584 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: and I came back and had a punt return and 585 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: to pick the last the last time we played him. 586 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, Jamie Smith was he was he was. He 587 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: was nice. He was really nice. Who you feel like 588 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the best receiver in the game is right now you're 589 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: saying right now? When I played, like who my top five? 590 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: You said right now? Right now? Yeah, right now? I 591 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: would say Julio German is the best receiving in nfit 592 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: by far. Big would be, that would be my choice 593 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: to by far. It ain't nobody that can't go on 594 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: guard Julio right now, one on one yeah, you can't. 595 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Not one coma not one where you can say I'm 596 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: putting you over there and I ain't getting you know, hill, 597 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: I ain't not, I ain't. Not one can do it 598 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: right now? Who feel like the top dB in the 599 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: game is right now? Oh God, that's a hard choice. 600 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: The boy from the Patriots is good. Gil More. I 601 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: think it's Gilmore, Yeah, get more, it's gil Moore Yeah, yeah, yeah, 602 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: I think him was the best out there. Lest you. 603 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: But bro, it's some much sloppy corner corners didn't played 604 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: right now. It's it's it's hard to get a like 605 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: a top group because it all depends on like what 606 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: system you and you get what I'm saying, So I 607 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: would I'm saying, even though everybody's gonna say Sherman, don't 608 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: play Man and Man, Sherman is the top corner because 609 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: he's the top player in that system. Like it's not 610 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: too many corners that can go up and play that 611 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: cover three man scheme that that he plays and that 612 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: can play a better them. You know what I'm saying. 613 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: If you go to Man the Man, they'd be like 614 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: all right, they'd be like the Reverieves was one of 615 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: the best man on man corners without no help, you 616 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's different corners that's in 617 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: in different schemes. So that's that a lot of corners 618 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: that's in the cover three schemes cannot play in the 619 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Man the man skin, you know what I'm saying. So 620 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: that's why you see some corners don't blossom to they 621 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: go somewhere else black. It ain't that he won five, 622 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: it was just he he better playing and it was 623 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: a man and man or yeah, cover too, because you 624 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: got realized some colleges don't even play man the man. 625 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: And then you got the big schools like O, how 626 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: your state you got, uh, Georgia, you got um Alabama. 627 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying Alabama, like all them they running postile defense. 628 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: So them kids out there playing man and man every 629 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: dayn play, you know what I'm saying. Now, every now 630 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: and then they get a cover to a cover of 631 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: three in there, but them kids playing man to man. 632 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: So that'd be that would be the difference when they 633 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: get Before we get out of here, what are your 634 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on Obviously when you came in, you came into 635 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: oh five right now's your rookie year. Yeah, obviously the 636 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: physicality of the game has changed similar to basketball, obviously, 637 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: and you got on the NFL's a larger schedule because 638 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: you guys are actually really hitting. But as far as 639 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: physical playing defenses and guys having to kind of completely 640 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: change the way you guys grew up playing and tackling 641 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: and all this kind of ship, where do you feel 642 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: like the safety stuff is and how I kind of 643 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: feel like it's unfair to the defense. What are your 644 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on that? All? Right, Well, the safety this ship 645 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: is at all time high because you can't even touch 646 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: the motherfucker right now. Yeah, as far as as far 647 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: as defense wise, it's sad. But all you can do 648 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: is take their knees out, and then they get mad 649 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: like you're doing something wrong when you take their knees out. 650 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: So you can watch the game, Well, guys bend the 651 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: corner and somebody swap their knews out and they getting mad. 652 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: But like, what you want me to do? You either 653 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: want me to hit you how and get fine fifteen 654 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: thousand or hit you low. Like I had the conversation 655 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: with one Tends the other day, like, and I was 656 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: talking about like, te I know you don't like hitting 657 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: people low. But you gotta start doing that, like because 658 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: every time you hit them high, they're dunk in anyway. 659 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, time to time he coming, they're doing this anyway. 660 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So if he if he already, 661 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: if he already, if he already coming, and they shoulders 662 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: and they dunking automatically, gonn hit him in the head. 663 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: So I said, man, you gotta start just going to 664 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: text standing a low low from waist down. And it's 665 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: it's sad, but that's where the game comes to. And 666 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: do I think it's more safer because it's gonna be 667 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: a lot more concussion from from knee injuries and from 668 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: people you know what I mean, like and not seeing 669 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: what you hit. That's how you breaking neck when you're 670 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: ducking down and not getting to see what you hit. 671 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: So everybody is not gonna go from tapping and hit 672 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: somebody straight face to face in their knees. Like it's 673 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: a hard way to taple. You get what I'm saying, 674 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: But you have you have to make your adjustment. But 675 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: the game is safe now. I think, um good hell 676 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: them have have done a great job of making it safe. 677 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: It's it's touch football compared to what we was, right. Yeah, 678 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: hey man, Well that's a wrap. Man. We appreciate. Like 679 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: you said, we want to have you in studios, so 680 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: we don't want to do too much. We want to 681 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: really dig and get down to the real ship when 682 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: you when you come in studio. Whats all this clus up? Man, 683 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 1: So we want to thank you for your time today 684 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: and joining us on the show. Oh good, my boy. 685 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate you all for having me man. Man, thanks Bro. 686 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: Anything you need you know how to let me, Bro. 687 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man. You know what it is. Baby. 688 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I and win my little money on 689 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: this golf course. All right, bro, Al right, man, that's 690 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: a wrap. Appreciate pac Man, Jone's Jack. Good show, Bro, 691 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: Good job, my boy. And you can find this episode 692 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball YouTube. We're all platforms, streaming podcasts. All 693 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: love them. Baby, m hm. This life was all I 694 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: ever wanted. I'm not leaving, not yet. I was hoping 695 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: you say that you gotta hit the streets, make some money. 696 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Paple like us. Let's destroyed people like him back all 697 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: up them. Get Showtime free at showtime dot com.