Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to Street Politicians, the place with the streets
Speaker 1: in politics meet. I'm gonna host my son and I'm
Speaker 1: Tamika D. Mallory and this is street Politicians. So much
Speaker 1: is happening across this country. Um, we seem like we're
Speaker 1: in a moment where we're either gonna change drastically or
Speaker 1: people are gonna burn this whole country down. So this
Speaker 1: is the place with this is and we hope that
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But it's a place where certainly folks
Speaker 1: have just decided that enough is enough. And I think
Speaker 1: it is most incredible to see that people from outside
Speaker 1: of the country have taken up our issue. Uh. In Germany,
Speaker 1: people have been marching in Paris, people have been organized
Speaker 1: in and speaking out. And in fact, I saw a
Speaker 1: viral video of a woman who lives in Paris who
Speaker 1: was complaining, like, you know, why, why is all of
Speaker 1: this Black Lives Matter stuff happening? I don't care out
Speaker 1: that it's not my issues, not my family, That's not
Speaker 1: something I believe in. She went viral. She's probably gonna
Speaker 1: lose her job. You're gonna lose your job. I love
Speaker 1: that you're gonna lose your job. She'll probably lose her
Speaker 1: job in the next few hours. UM. And so with
Speaker 1: everything that's happening, though, I think what is most painful
Speaker 1: is that the death, the murder, the assault upon black
Speaker 1: lives still has not stopped. UM. And I don't think
Speaker 1: any of us have it in our minds that just
Speaker 1: because there's a major movement, that the violence against black
Speaker 1: bodies were just end. But we're still seeing images a
Speaker 1: very very gruesome, UM and traumatizing murder of black people.
Speaker 1: And so all the movement that's happening in the world,
Speaker 1: You've got COVID nineteen, you got so much going on,
Speaker 1: and yet still back bodies continue to drop, and America
Speaker 1: has the blood of our people on these streets. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, since we last talked when we were fighting
Speaker 1: for George Floyd and um, Brianna Taylor, ahmard are very
Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on of those who
Speaker 1: went before them. UM. Now we have a new case,
Speaker 1: Raciard Brooks. Right before America's eyes, right on video. We
Speaker 1: saw that this man was killed. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that we are so naive or so confused that we
Speaker 1: don't understand the challenges that was happening in that moment.
Speaker 1: We know he was drinking. We saw that. We know
Speaker 1: that he fell asleep behind the wheel because he had
Speaker 1: too much to drink. We know that once he got
Speaker 1: into a fight or once they were attempting to arrest him,
Speaker 1: that he started to fight the cops, and that he
Speaker 1: also the the taser um and ran away with it
Speaker 1: and he pointed the Taser Act. The policies. We know
Speaker 1: all of that. But I think what's at the heart
Speaker 1: of the conversation and what many of us as activists
Speaker 1: and advocates might have been trying to say, is that
Speaker 1: the way in which we are handled from start to
Speaker 1: finish is different from how we see other communities being managed.
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna talk about that because, yeah, we
Speaker 1: know things he could have done things different is a
Speaker 1: lot of things that could have happened differently. But he
Speaker 1: was being harassed from the very moment that the second
Speaker 1: officer arrived on the scene, and the way in which
Speaker 1: he was being treated wasn't a de escalation attempt, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a community relations attempt. It was an enforcement attempt.
Speaker 1: And that's something that um, I think, you know, we
Speaker 1: have to discuss five people hanging across the nation, five
Speaker 1: print cases of people hanging in which in each situation,
Speaker 1: the media keeps trying to say suicide, that these people
Speaker 1: did harm to themselves. Any other community, if you found
Speaker 1: five white people, particularly young white men, hanging around this nation,
Speaker 1: people like you and me, mice would be in jail.
Speaker 1: They would lock us up to see if the movement
Speaker 1: has something to do with the retaliation against white people.
Speaker 1: Then we see Nikia Crawford, a young woman eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: just graduated from high school, driving her grandmother somewhere, doing
Speaker 1: her regular, normal everyday activities, shot to death at a
Speaker 1: light in Akron, Ohio. We don't know for sure, but
Speaker 1: witnesses say that it was a white man in the
Speaker 1: vehicle that shot her. Many witnesses have said it. We
Speaker 1: don't know. They can't say she shot herself. And of
Speaker 1: course they would love to say that it was black
Speaker 1: on black crime, but that's not what the witnesses is saying.
Speaker 1: And so that's, you know, yet another uh situation that
Speaker 1: we have to monitor. I know, I saw on Shaun
Speaker 1: King's um Instagram page that there's a fifty thousand dollar
Speaker 1: reward available for those who are able to help catch
Speaker 1: the murderer. Of Nikia Crawford, which is a sad situation.
Speaker 1: Like I said, she just graduated then Trump. I mean,
Speaker 1: I keep saying this stuff is not isolated. It's very
Speaker 1: very much coordinated in terms of how they are choosing
Speaker 1: cities to go to and the dates that they are
Speaker 1: choosing to go to these places, both his campaign events
Speaker 1: and now he will accept the nomination um in in
Speaker 1: uh in Jacksonville, Florida. Now in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where he's
Speaker 1: going to be this weekend. And yes, granted, it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be tomorrow on June team that he would
Speaker 1: be having his major event, and they moved it because
Speaker 1: somebody got in touch with him and said, you are
Speaker 1: actually going to in that there's bloodshed. You know. Like
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how we've been traveling for the last
Speaker 1: few weeks and the types of people that I hear
Speaker 1: on your phone are not, like, you know, regular activists
Speaker 1: like these they're not really they don't call themselves activists
Speaker 1: at all. These as people we don't even see outside
Speaker 1: in the daytime, and they're calling you, like, hell, homeboy
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to Tulsa. I'm ready to give it
Speaker 1: all up, Like it can't happen. So you know, he
Speaker 1: moved the date because somebody said this is not gonna
Speaker 1: be good, and thank god they did. But it's still
Speaker 1: the mere fact that he's gone to talk understanding the
Speaker 1: history of Tulsa, knowing that Black Wall Street was there,
Speaker 1: and that town was bombed, and that was where our
Speaker 1: people were thriving, not just surviving. It was a model
Speaker 1: for Black America of how to have a community that
Speaker 1: has wealth and is sustainable without having to beg the
Speaker 1: state for anything. Um. And it was bombed, literally bombed
Speaker 1: by being on June team. No, no, not on June team.
Speaker 1: That's nine years after the bombing. UM. June two teenth
Speaker 1: is a different day. This is the day when many
Speaker 1: a right, when many black black Nufricians, when many Africans um,
Speaker 1: we're told that we were free from slavery, from enslavement,
Speaker 1: and we know many did not find out, so there
Speaker 1: were many people who remained in slave because they didn't know.
Speaker 1: But that is the official day when black people were
Speaker 1: supposed to know that we were freed from slavery. And
Speaker 1: so even though Tulsa, the Tulsa bombings didn't happen on
Speaker 1: that day, the mere fact that you would go to
Speaker 1: Tulsa understanding what you represent as an American president as
Speaker 1: a white man who's it can't happen. So that's that
Speaker 1: on that Jacksonville UM is another place that they're going
Speaker 1: to August or they're gonna be in Jacksonville and they're
Speaker 1: going to Jacksonville for the Republican National Convention where he's
Speaker 1: going to accept the nomination um as their candidate for president.
Speaker 1: And like yo In in that town the same exact
Speaker 1: time there was the the the anniversary of the ax Handle.
Speaker 1: I think it's the act yet as Handle exactly. That
Speaker 1: was another time when white people, including law enforcement, murdered
Speaker 1: black folks and they are actual uh events that happened
Speaker 1: every August where they are literally commemorating that day and
Speaker 1: remembering the those people who were lost. So this we're
Speaker 1: talking about not isolated incidents. How the hell do they
Speaker 1: choose both of those times in one period. It's not isolated,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's very strategic. I think you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at just the Tousa situation in itself
Speaker 1: was crazy. Man. Just when we first heard that he
Speaker 1: was going there on June TV, right, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of colds and people like, I'm ready to give
Speaker 1: it up. You I'm going there, but everybody I knew
Speaker 1: called me and you know, and we are already heading
Speaker 1: the d C to do an action, and we was considering,
Speaker 1: you know, to even change our route to go out
Speaker 1: there on that day. So it was strategic. I guess
Speaker 1: he figured he wants to speak to his African Americans,
Speaker 1: as he said, you know, and and try to pander
Speaker 1: and try to make it seem like he understands our struggle,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know it's it's it's Trump is
Speaker 1: very very um, very strategic, and he and he plays
Speaker 1: with marketing. That's his whole thing is about how is
Speaker 1: he gonna market him? You know, when you look at
Speaker 1: the next place, when we look at where else where
Speaker 1: is he going again? You said Ville, Jacksonville, Florida, And
Speaker 1: we look about the tracity that happened then in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and then you look at him wanted to speak. So
Speaker 1: these are these are times where he's trying to utilize
Speaker 1: the heart strings of black people and then he's gonna
Speaker 1: try to speak and pander two black people. In his mind,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't realize that people are already fed
Speaker 1: up you know, you can't talk to people when they're
Speaker 1: dealing with pain and you're the one who inflicted it.
Speaker 1: So he has a strategy. So it's it's a two
Speaker 1: promped strategy. He either roused up his space letting them
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna go there and speak on those
Speaker 1: days and they're like and they see it as a
Speaker 1: form of disrespect. Or he either gets some of us,
Speaker 1: you know, who are not as conscious understandably like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to celebrate with us, you know,
Speaker 1: the president. He's the president. You know, we need to
Speaker 1: you know, acknowledge this. So this is this is what
Speaker 1: he does, and he does it very strategically all times.
Speaker 1: Just like you look at this press conference with this
Speaker 1: so called you know, executive order that really did nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, just pretty much. In my opinion, a lot
Speaker 1: of people agree. Some people say, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a movement in the right direction, but there's no mandate
Speaker 1: in this executive Order's only suggestions that most local leaders
Speaker 1: do not have to follow, and most of them won't
Speaker 1: follow because they didn't even want those in put into
Speaker 1: law in the first place, you know, And most of
Speaker 1: them have had that same they've had the ability to
Speaker 1: do everything that they put into these this executive orders.
Speaker 1: So you know, he tries to utilize that time and
Speaker 1: make it seems like, you know, we're dealing with prisonal fall.
Speaker 1: Let me do something that speaks to that, because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get reelected. So we're very aware of what
Speaker 1: this president is doing that like you said, he's our
Speaker 1: co organizing man, Like whenever he does something, it's a
Speaker 1: reason for us to organize again. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: just said, it's actually just really said. Really say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a sad state of affairs. And I think, like, yes,
Speaker 1: I try to come up with what's my thought of
Speaker 1: the day, because I have so many thoughts of the day,
Speaker 1: of thoughts of the minute, thoughts of the hour. I
Speaker 1: wonder have we really truly entered the race war that
Speaker 1: we've been talking about? And I have to ask that
Speaker 1: as a with the second question, are we ready? Like
Speaker 1: are we really truly ready for what we're being faced with?
Speaker 1: Because so many of our own people are just not
Speaker 1: away there, like they're just living their lives. And a
Speaker 1: lot of that is you know, it's the media. It's
Speaker 1: also a survival mechanism where people are like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I don't wanna I don't want to have to face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to face the constant brutality
Speaker 1: and trauma and and and all that goes along with them.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can't ignore it. We
Speaker 1: better be prepared because something really, really, really heavy is happening,
Speaker 1: especially when they're starting to find people hanging, people getting shot.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you one thing I was thinking to
Speaker 1: myself this is day. I'm like, yo, they know for
Speaker 1: sure that if they come outside to these rallies and
Speaker 1: protests and other things where Pooky and them are like
Speaker 1: on guard, they know they cannot win. They cannot win
Speaker 1: because our people, we've been killed so much, we've been
Speaker 1: brutalized so much. We don't really have anything else to lose.
Speaker 1: So if you're time and you decided to show up
Speaker 1: where we are and you want to facesion, not a
Speaker 1: good thing. It's not you know what I want to say,
Speaker 1: You know what I want to say to cut you off.
Speaker 1: I don't think at this moment, you know, I think
Speaker 1: people are trying to create a race war. But I
Speaker 1: think at this moment most people, just people in general,
Speaker 1: are realizing the pain, you know, the trauma, the effects
Speaker 1: of white supremacy, even white people. You know. I think
Speaker 1: everywhere you look in this world, people are screaming white
Speaker 1: Black lives matter. They are, they are acknowledging. I think
Speaker 1: we we, we are, We are winning a lot of allies,
Speaker 1: you know, and cocon spirits, as you say, I think
Speaker 1: so they're trying to create. I think what Trump is
Speaker 1: trying to do is create, recreate the divide, because that's
Speaker 1: been his whole strategy with his you know, his own
Speaker 1: presidency was us to create this divide and and make
Speaker 1: it seem like it's us against them, you know, just
Speaker 1: throwing out the dog whistles and in saying things too
Speaker 1: to rival up his base. And you hear you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of his the white supremacist like what, we're
Speaker 1: just waiting for Trump to give us the word, and
Speaker 1: we all you have to do is give us the world.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what he's trying to do. But
Speaker 1: I think this moment, you know, George Floyd's situation, coupled
Speaker 1: with so many of them, are recovered with so many
Speaker 1: different things. Brianna Taylor just looking at where we are
Speaker 1: in this moment. I think it has. It has changed
Speaker 1: the perspective of the world, you understand I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: I don't think they I don't think the world really
Speaker 1: wants to raceful. I think that because everywhere you go,
Speaker 1: they're screaming black lives matter, Whites green everywhere. The people
Speaker 1: that never before had any concern people before that, we
Speaker 1: was like, why they don't speak up on our ha
Speaker 1: they't saying that. Everybody is vocal about what's going on.
Speaker 1: Everybody is screaming black lives matter. And of course it's
Speaker 1: because of fat also because it's the cool thing to do,
Speaker 1: but it's also a lot of people that you know,
Speaker 1: are genuine, like damn, I just didn't even know what
Speaker 1: this is going on. Like I never visualized. I never
Speaker 1: actually was able to see this. So I think we're
Speaker 1: at a unique time where, you know, to me, I'm
Speaker 1: not so concerned about the race war, where I'm concerned
Speaker 1: with the good against bad. I think it's it's just
Speaker 1: good people against bad people at this time. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm looking at it. You know, it's I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think because I don't think of
Speaker 1: most white people agree with what's going on. I think
Speaker 1: that I don't think most white Sorry I cut you off,
Speaker 1: but I don't think most white people agree. I mean
Speaker 1: most white people supported, but I don't think most white people. Again,
Speaker 1: that's important. Words you said most white people, I don't
Speaker 1: think they are willing to fight against it, and therefore,
Speaker 1: at some point they have to choose a side. And
Speaker 1: guess what in this particular moment, as you've been saying,
Speaker 1: those that are responsible for deconstructing the institutional and systemic
Speaker 1: racism that their own ancestors created, our white folks. And
Speaker 1: there's some that are in the movement, but there's also
Speaker 1: some that's in the movement that's problematic as fun like period.
Speaker 1: They are supposed to be liberal, they're supposed to be progressive,
Speaker 1: and yet they create more tension and dissension among movements
Speaker 1: because they because they still operate off or operate through
Speaker 1: a white supremacist lens. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is when you are in these women's organizations where black
Speaker 1: women and women of color feel oppressed even while we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be working together for liberation, and you are
Speaker 1: here telling everybody, oh, I believe black lives matter I'm
Speaker 1: a white woman that supports the movement, and yet and
Speaker 1: still people who work with are being traumatized by your behavior.
Speaker 1: And as we moved to our next topic, when we
Speaker 1: come to you and say, what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: about a Ta Tiana Jefferson, Shakeisha Clemens, Brianna Taylor, You're
Speaker 1: not really where the where are where are the white
Speaker 1: women's organizations right now? I'm talking about with mass movements.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about tweet or you posted something. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about mass movements for Brianna Taylor. Where are they? Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Well, I think we're at a
Speaker 1: unique time where we need to sell quote these people.
Speaker 1: I think you know, I think you have a presence,
Speaker 1: a voice, you know. I think that you have been
Speaker 1: tasked with the ability, skill level in the reach to
Speaker 1: make sure that people understand that. And I want to
Speaker 1: know that too, Like, where are there? We're all these
Speaker 1: organizations that's supposed to be about women's rights, that why
Speaker 1: aren't there you know, major mass mobilizations and major movements
Speaker 1: behind Briana Taylor with the exception of what it is
Speaker 1: that you know, we as you know, combined with other
Speaker 1: organizations in in her Town. Black Lives Matter, O. The
Speaker 1: organizations are putting together an organizer, but where are they?
Speaker 1: You know, they pertain to be about women's right. So
Speaker 1: it's definitely right. I mean, it's an issue. It's an issue,
Speaker 1: and you know we have to ask. I mean, people
Speaker 1: raise so much hell about every move we made within
Speaker 1: the Women's March, and they said, you know, we were
Speaker 1: the problem. Whatever we I'm not even gonna waste air
Speaker 1: coming out of my body to repeat the lies and
Speaker 1: the bullshit that they tried to mount against us with
Speaker 1: the Women's March. But now we're not there, right, We're
Speaker 1: not there Women's women quite. I mean, obviously they send
Speaker 1: fundraising emails all the time and and I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I thought I didn't even know. No, it's still very much.
Speaker 1: There's a board there, people there, We left people in charge.
Speaker 1: We we set up the board. We invited many of
Speaker 1: the folks who are there in the organization now. Um,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they probably sent out an email. But
Speaker 1: again again, and my my thing is not even at
Speaker 1: which of course I know from when I was one
Speaker 1: of the you know, strongest black women voices within the organization.
Speaker 1: From a national perspective, we forced people to deal with
Speaker 1: Shakisha clements, and it still wasn't enough. It still wasn't enough,
Speaker 1: because you know, what you have to ask is like,
Speaker 1: where is the Louisville Women's March chapter or one that's
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. Where are all the neighboring cities. Where's the
Speaker 1: folks in Indianapolis? Where are the people who um from
Speaker 1: a women's march perspective? Where are they in terms of
Speaker 1: coming together to fight for Brianna Taylor. Now what they
Speaker 1: will say is, oh, well, you know it's COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: and whatever. Okay, fine, people want to use that, and
Speaker 1: and and and and I'm not saying that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: protect yourself. So we can't tell anybody that they're wrong
Speaker 1: for not hitting the streets. But I'm almost certain, I'm
Speaker 1: almost certain that if this in this moment, it was
Speaker 1: something Trump focused. Boom, That's all you need, because I've
Speaker 1: seen them. I've seen them on the streets. I've seen
Speaker 1: them on the streets since COVID, and and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they were organized by the National Women's March. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying i've seen people with their pink hats on
Speaker 1: and all of that around other issues, but not for
Speaker 1: specifically a black Harman. And so when we talk about
Speaker 1: we're in a race boar, I think the way we
Speaker 1: end this that I would end it, of course, you
Speaker 1: know you maybe you won't end it there, but is
Speaker 1: that we've been in a race war and that now
Speaker 1: what's happening is that the actual uh physical remnants of
Speaker 1: it is beginning to show up on the street. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the murder has been happening, but now
Speaker 1: it's not just the murder, it's also the response of
Speaker 1: some people from our communities. Yeah, you know, when we
Speaker 1: talk about Briana Taylor, like the I want to first
Speaker 1: of all come in with um you guys did with
Speaker 1: the campaign? Do you know what happened to Brianna Taylor?
Speaker 1: Like that was a really big campaign. Man. It touched
Speaker 1: me just hearing her mother's story just you know, I
Speaker 1: was dead when she said we're just here on on
Speaker 1: that that big you know, and just seeing all of
Speaker 1: those um artists and actresses and you know, people of
Speaker 1: stature in our communities and our culture just speaking on
Speaker 1: behalf man Like, I just want to say, it was dope, man,
Speaker 1: but we got it. There still has been nothing. You
Speaker 1: haven't got any level of justice. And it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: how disregarded and disrespected the black woman is. This woman
Speaker 1: was shot you know home and nobody's even lost the
Speaker 1: job or anything like shot eight times through home like
Speaker 1: that has to be some level of you know, mound
Speaker 1: mound practice is so you know, it's negligence that at least,
Speaker 1: if nothing else there was negligence, you know, there's at
Speaker 1: least it's it's something for you to say, you know,
Speaker 1: you are not capable to continue to do this job
Speaker 1: because your actions led to the depth of an innocent person.
Speaker 1: Your lack of understanding, your lack of professionalism. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of things lacking there, you know. And if
Speaker 1: we can't hold the police accountable to make sure that
Speaker 1: innocent people just don't die, you know, we can't charge
Speaker 1: with a pause but you and then you still get
Speaker 1: to keep your job, but it has something else. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's situation is pretty rough. And what we did
Speaker 1: see happen last week, which we know administrative duty is
Speaker 1: no longer enough, like we it was never enough, but
Speaker 1: we've just said to hell with that, don't even bring
Speaker 1: up administrative leave anymore. Um, And so what we did
Speaker 1: see happen is that the the ludge the ludge. So
Speaker 1: what we did see happen is that the officer who
Speaker 1: wrote the no knock warrant and you know, went to
Speaker 1: the judge to get him the judge to sign off
Speaker 1: on a no knock warrant, he lied. He said that
Speaker 1: that that the postal service had reported suspicious packages going
Speaker 1: to Brianna Taylor's home. And the Postal Service came out
Speaker 1: and said they never ever reported that, and in fact,
Speaker 1: they never witnessed or even assumed or felt that there
Speaker 1: were um suspicious packages going to the home. So this
Speaker 1: criminal activity, that's criminal activity. He lied to get the
Speaker 1: no knock warrant And so lies your lives led to
Speaker 1: someone losing their life and still and you still get paid.
Speaker 1: But by taxpayers were killing one of them exact pro.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just all crazy. They put they put
Speaker 1: him on death duty. And then last week they also
Speaker 1: passed Drianna's Law after that video came out. And and
Speaker 1: let's just be sure, be sure to state that the
Speaker 1: video done by many celebrities, Tracy Ellis, Ross Cardi, b
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys who was my Alicia Keys, and Rhapsody were
Speaker 1: my co organizers to get that campaign together. UM Lend Degenerous,
Speaker 1: I saw Iman did a video, Jada Pinkett, em c
Speaker 1: l um, who else, Zoe Kravitz, Uh, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to get in La La Anthony Kelly Rowland.
Speaker 1: So many women of influence came together for that campaign,
Speaker 1: even Cat Trigg, who is our director and producer of
Speaker 1: this UM of our podcast Free Politicians, UM and and
Speaker 1: uh and also Dandy Smith Harris. I mean again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop because I don't want to get in trout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said Cardio eleven million views on her video where
Speaker 1: we asked do you know what happened to Brianna Taylor
Speaker 1: and provided the information and Um, the interesting thing, I've
Speaker 1: gotta shout out humility Davis. But and the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about it is that people want to be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the influences made this campaign made the Brianna's Taylor law
Speaker 1: get pat because the next day and one of the
Speaker 1: action items that I laid out in the video was
Speaker 1: that for the next day, UM, that people needed to
Speaker 1: call city council members, especially folks from the local Louisville community,
Speaker 1: to tell the city Council to make sure they passed
Speaker 1: the Brianna's Law, which banns no knock quaarrants the next day,
Speaker 1: So the b um the campaign went out on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and Thursday was the city council vote, in which at
Speaker 1: the time um that they they did actually pass Brianna
Speaker 1: Taylor's Law. That's great, Do I think Do I think
Speaker 1: that the video and the campaign that we released had
Speaker 1: something to do with it? Absolutely, But it's important to
Speaker 1: note that that's not the indoor be all. There were
Speaker 1: people on the ground from BLM Louisville, like you said earlier,
Speaker 1: um A c l U and others, and of course
Speaker 1: their attorneys uh Lonita Baker and Ben Crump who had
Speaker 1: been working Dilan lead, and the family advocating for themselves,
Speaker 1: Jania her sister. So I'm saying all of that to
Speaker 1: say that this movement is not about any one entity.
Speaker 1: It's not about celebrity faces that are not also aligned
Speaker 1: with activists and community organizers. We need every single person,
Speaker 1: every single body, the lawyers, the young people, the elderly,
Speaker 1: the wisdom, we need all of that working together to
Speaker 1: get justice not just for Brianna Taylor, but for Brianna
Speaker 1: Taylors of the past and those to come. That's right,
Speaker 1: you know, So we and we're doing an action that's
Speaker 1: right on next Thursday, Thursday, the twenty six Thursday of
Speaker 1: June um which that week, next week marks and this
Speaker 1: might be in the week, right y'all when it get rid,
Speaker 1: when his release Janice and Cat Yes, okay, So this
Speaker 1: week marks a hundred days since Brianna Taylor was murdered,
Speaker 1: a hundred days and so on Thursday, we're going to
Speaker 1: be joined by a lot of important people, community people,
Speaker 1: everybody who could think of, but led most of all
Speaker 1: by Brianna Taylor's family in Frankfort, Kentucky, to demand that
Speaker 1: the state's attorney filed charges against the liars, the abuses,
Speaker 1: the shooters, every single officer who is responsible for the
Speaker 1: murder of Brianna tim That's right. So yeah, we'll be
Speaker 1: doing that on Thursday. You know. It's it's just it's
Speaker 1: just crazy, man. When you look at Brianna Taylor and
Speaker 1: you look how you know we were, we were just
Speaker 1: it's this the last few weeks have been so crazy,
Speaker 1: Like we went from it started with Brianna Taylor, you know,
Speaker 1: it started with us going out for Brianna Taylor, and
Speaker 1: then we went ended up at George Floyd at protests.
Speaker 1: You know. Then we're in Atlanta, you know, doing some
Speaker 1: work there, you know what for our organization, and then
Speaker 1: Rachard Brooks happens, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
Speaker 1: we see that and you know it's Rashard Brooks situation
Speaker 1: broke my heart just watching the the video, you know,
Speaker 1: watching his video him talking about how he wanted to
Speaker 1: do better and how probation was holding him back. You know,
Speaker 1: and then you look at the situation and you look
Speaker 1: at that whole video. You look at this thirty forty
Speaker 1: minute and I would listening to um Keisha Lance by
Speaker 1: the Maya Kesha Lance body was talking and said, how
Speaker 1: this ship't happened? You look like how that forty minutes
Speaker 1: like anything could have happened. You could have took this
Speaker 1: man home. He was polite, he was respectful, He he understood,
Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't the best. He offered to
Speaker 1: walk home, you know, and understand, and just look at
Speaker 1: being formally incarcerated, understanding that seriousness of that. He just
Speaker 1: wanted to get home to his daughter. You know, he
Speaker 1: did everything right and when you when he looked and
Speaker 1: you heard that video and you heard him speaking about
Speaker 1: being on probation and how they hold things over your
Speaker 1: head and as nobody did a mentor you and nobody
Speaker 1: did to walk with you, and yeah, you make mistakes
Speaker 1: and little mistakes and you know, and they just wait
Speaker 1: for you to make that mistake and it's like they
Speaker 1: holding all of that and him just coming home from
Speaker 1: prison and just wanted to do the right thing. And
Speaker 1: then after he realized that he had said everything he
Speaker 1: possibly could, like, you know, could you just let me
Speaker 1: walk home? And then note that this man was gonna
Speaker 1: put cups on him and he was gonna have to
Speaker 1: return to that cell away from his family. Was a
Speaker 1: level of trauma that nobody understands unless you actually been
Speaker 1: through that, unless you actually have some seeing somebody knowing
Speaker 1: that they wanted to do the best they can and
Speaker 1: know on once he put those cups on him, somebody
Speaker 1: was gonna violate his probation and he was gonna spend
Speaker 1: time away from his family again. And people don't unders
Speaker 1: staying there. They'd like, yo, he should have just why
Speaker 1: did he resist? He understood the seriousness and that officer didn't.
Speaker 1: Officer didn't care. He probably didn't know. He probably ran
Speaker 1: this idea seeing that he was all probation and decided
Speaker 1: that he was more comfortable with taking that man's freedom.
Speaker 1: And you know, and and and and understanding that moment
Speaker 1: like that really touched me. I was in my bed
Speaker 1: last night watching his video of what he said, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, man, he wanted to do better,
Speaker 1: just even when you heard it. And when he was
Speaker 1: talking to the officer, he wasn't a wise ass. He
Speaker 1: was He was like you always. I had a few drinks,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm I'm understanding, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know I didn't wrong, understand, but you know, I walk home.
Speaker 1: I just want to get home to my daughter's a birthday.
Speaker 1: Like when you understand that, And that's where the the
Speaker 1: humanization comes from for me, because I know if it
Speaker 1: had been another white individual, I know, if it had
Speaker 1: been even if it would have been a black individual,
Speaker 1: you would have been able to identify with that person.
Speaker 1: You know, And when they don't see us as human,
Speaker 1: they don't mind destroying your home, they don't do mind
Speaker 1: destroying your lives, because they don't mind destroying your reality.
Speaker 1: And just saying, well you should have been doing. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna send you back. You know that nobody gives
Speaker 1: you a break. Nobody cares about that. And that man
Speaker 1: at that moment, when that man was putting that comes
Speaker 1: from his hand, he was just like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: back to jail, you know, I'm just I'm just not going.
Speaker 1: But he shouldn't have died. He wasn't supposed to die
Speaker 1: for that man that moment, that situation is not told
Speaker 1: for that man to lose his life. Man. And every
Speaker 1: time I think about it, it hurt man. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad that the officers got charged, you know. And now
Speaker 1: you know that brings me to my word of the day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it. No, you gotta do
Speaker 1: that again so they can properly. That brings me to
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I'm glad that the officers got charged man,
Speaker 1: you know, and that brings me to my I don't
Speaker 1: get it. You know, officers got charged for murder. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody clearly seeing what he did to that man. And
Speaker 1: man was running the raid. And then you have I
Speaker 1: heard that the office as in Atlanta were refusing to
Speaker 1: work yesterday. And I want to know this. What I
Speaker 1: don't get is how are you comfortable we're watching someone
Speaker 1: take a life? Right? I've never seen none of the
Speaker 1: police see some uh you know, individuals in the street,
Speaker 1: a regular citizens get killed or somebody not get charged
Speaker 1: for a crime and get away and they decided they
Speaker 1: failed their jobs. But you were were willing to quit
Speaker 1: the job or or not fulfill the oath that you
Speaker 1: signed up for because someone was held accountable for killing
Speaker 1: the man, because someone was held accountable? What what? What
Speaker 1: is your job? What did you sign up for? If
Speaker 1: the if these individuals signed up to get away with
Speaker 1: impunity to kill black people, then they should never be
Speaker 1: police solds. So I don't get the monster the same
Speaker 1: way with the young man the officer in flow who
Speaker 1: was thrown to the through the old men to the
Speaker 1: ground and they would charge the officers said that they
Speaker 1: were striking, and they came up and they you know, applauded.
Speaker 1: What what what? What is the mind state of the
Speaker 1: individual that is okay with that? You know? And that's
Speaker 1: what we have to I don't get that. I don't
Speaker 1: get how you saw somebody shoot him in the back
Speaker 1: and you didn't think something was wrong with that. I
Speaker 1: don't care how. I don't get how you sure your
Speaker 1: officers throw him in to the ground and his head
Speaker 1: bleeding and nobody picked him up and didn't think that
Speaker 1: they should be charged with that. You know, I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. Yeah, I get it. It's a culture
Speaker 1: and I think we're in the process of trying to
Speaker 1: uproot it now. So this has been a good conversation.
Speaker 1: You know, Street politicians. Second season, we're back. Um, don't
Speaker 1: get it twisted. We still don't agree on a lot
Speaker 1: of things, but in this moment what we're working on,
Speaker 1: and uh, the state of emergency that we're in. If
Speaker 1: you don't agree with us with this, then you're probably
Speaker 1: not somebody that we even exactly this And this ain't
Speaker 1: the black people, you don't code. This ain't the time
Speaker 1: to be at ours. You got your enemy is your
Speaker 1: best friend right now, So you know, lock arms and
Speaker 1: right now, we we're in the we're in the midst
Speaker 1: of changing the culture of of the world, you know,
Speaker 1: and we don't We don't have a time to be
Speaker 1: at arts. So well, me and Hall argue another time.
Speaker 1: Right now, we got work to do, man. So you
Speaker 1: may not always agree. I might not always be right,
Speaker 1: and she might not always be wrong, but most of
Speaker 1: the time she is now, but we are always want
Speaker 1: to be or young. That's how we own that