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Speaker 1: It's hour two. It is a Monday. I think this

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, and however you

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Speaker 2: Part of your day with us.

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Speaker 1: Jmack, it was the craziest day I can remember if

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Speaker 1: there was some really, I mean Green Bay, Cleveland was

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Speaker 1: about as ugly as football gats.

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Speaker 2: It was a rock fight.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Arizona Tampa Jets was a blowout. Then it

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Speaker 1: wasn't There is so much to talk about. Matt Hasselbeck's

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Speaker 1: about four minutes out. It was not a great day

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Speaker 1: for are one of us with our picks. I think

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Speaker 1: we both have the ravens tonight we do.

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Speaker 3: I need to hear little more positivity for Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: You know how there's the Magnificent seven Stocks, right, the

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Speaker 3: There needs to be a super six for quarterbacks because

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Speaker 3: I think Herbert and Hurts have played their way in.

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Speaker 4: Colin, come on, they've been spectacular.

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Speaker 2: On maybe Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So on a Monday Colin Wright Colin wrong,

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Speaker 1: And here.

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Speaker 2: We go where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh world's best football coach. Three and zero pulling

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Speaker 1: away in the AFC West. The Chargers run a short week.

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Speaker 1: They fumbled the opening kickoff, they lost Nausee Harris Khalil

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Speaker 1: Max not playing. But Harbaugh has in his career found

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Speaker 1: ways to win uglyague games. And you got to give

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Speaker 1: this team credit. Quintin Johnson look like a bust at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Harbaugh's like, nope, we're gonna feed him the ball.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw it to him half a dozen times deep.

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Speaker 1: And the Chargers win a game because they have the

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Speaker 1: greatest football coach of all time.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Packers led ten to nothing in the fourth and

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Speaker 1: still lost to Cleveland. They were my number one team

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Speaker 1: in the league. What was weird is they had extra

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Speaker 1: time to prep because they played on Thursday Night football,

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Speaker 1: and the offense was still disjointed. Jordan Love got hit

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Speaker 1: hard too many times. They just they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of energy. They came out flat and it's the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Jordan Love didn't have a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get a touchdown until late third quarter. I

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Speaker 1: thought this was a team without a major flaw, and

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I've said this about Kyle Shanahan. I predicted the Niners

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Speaker 1: Kyle is the great quarterback whisperer. Mac Jones is not

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Speaker 1: only two to zero, they're asking him to throw as

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Speaker 1: much as Justin Herbert. The dude has eighty pass attempts

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Speaker 1: in two starts with a wide receiver corp that's all

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Speaker 1: banged up, George Kittle banged up. You can say what

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Speaker 1: you want about Kyle Shanahan hasn't won the big game.

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Speaker 1: Shanahan with quarterbacks the league had given up on. Mac

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Speaker 1: at it and two to zero. Credit to Shanahan. Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was raw. I have defended CJ. Stroud for two years.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty ninth in passer rating dating back to last year. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know the offensive lines not great, but right now

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Vikings defense was great, but I said on

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Speaker 1: And yesterday you can win a bunch of games with

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Speaker 1: where Colin was raw. I gave up on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: He's Danny.

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Speaker 1: He is dealing with baby now. He's got a good

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Speaker 1: Is he the next Baker? Is he the next Sam Darnold?

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Speaker 1: This is not thinking dunk. Danny Dollars was six to nine,

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Speaker 1: He's not fooled anybody. He's making big boy NFL throws.

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Speaker 2: And I'm wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Mayov a USC is anybody paying attention nine tds,

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Speaker 1: For all the people that doubt Lincoln Riley, this kid

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Speaker 1: last year was reckless and out of control. He looks unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Coming out of Ohio State, I thought Marvin Harrison was

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened. He's not separating. They don't

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Speaker 2: They don't target him.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was drafted above like Rowanduande and neighbors,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong? Cade klubnick Ken Clemson quarterback. What happened?

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Speaker 1: There, one hundred and thirteenth in FCF and scoring offense.

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Speaker 1: had a lot of wrongs this week. I got to

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Speaker 1: own them. I had a lot of wrongs yesterday. And

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Speaker 1: with that, Matt Hasselbeck stops by eighteen years in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Man, I was wrong a lot. Col wrong.

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Speaker 5: I like when you admit when you were wrong. It's

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Speaker 5: just I love the humility.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't have it often, but boy, I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing my fastball today, I will say that us listen.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the bear'st the Dallas defense, but here's

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Speaker 5: It's both, but it was clearly Yeah, rhythm, timing, accuracy.

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Speaker 5: No sacks is huge, Yeah, good pass protection. This was

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Speaker 5: easily Caleb Williams's best game as a pro. Easily. It

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Speaker 5: was fun to watch. If you're a Bears fan, You're like, oh, shoot,

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Speaker 5: this is sick, Like this is what we could be.

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, I mean he is like you see why

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Speaker 5: if you're Dallas, you're feeling pretty good last week and

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Speaker 1: I want to know, though, do players look at it

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Speaker 1: and think the Bears? I mean, like the Bear players today?

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Speaker 1: Is it self belief in that locker room? Or is

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Speaker 1: You beat a really bad team, how does that usually

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Speaker 5: It's two things. Number one, never apologize for a win.

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Speaker 5: Never Like we would say that in every locker room ever,

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Speaker 5: Like it would just be like, never apologize. I don't

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Speaker 5: care how bad they were, how much disarray they're in.

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Speaker 5: It's really hard to get a win. Like, we put

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Speaker 5: Win or lose that game plan, that celebration, all of

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Speaker 5: look at everything under a magnifying glass and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 5: we've got to get a little bit better in the

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Speaker 5: details here. After a win, sometimes you sweep things under

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Speaker 5: they'll be fine. Ben Johnson seems like a little bit

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Speaker 5: became just reckless with his body and less reckless with

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Speaker 5: the ball. Now, I don't think he's reckless at all, hardly,

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Speaker 5: And I think what they've done is they've said, Okay,

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Speaker 5: you want to be crazy, you know, with your scrambles

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Speaker 5: and all this kind of stuff, Let's do some design

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Speaker 5: quarterback runs. Let's run you know, like we're faking into

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Speaker 5: the running back but you're actually reading it. And then

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Speaker 5: let's run counter pulling the guard, pulling the tackle, and

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Speaker 5: it's quarterback run game. It's a lot of college run game,

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Speaker 5: but it's almost like they're saying, hey, you get your six, seven,

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Speaker 5: eight yards and get down or at least like as

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Speaker 5: a quarterback. I know this from from personal experience, when

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Speaker 5: you know the hits coming, it's not nearly as bad.

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Speaker 5: It's it's when you don't know that it's coming that

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Speaker 5: that's kind of where injuries can happen. So I think

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Speaker 5: there's like a little bit more design, in a little

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Speaker 5: bit more structure to him as as sort of like

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Speaker 5: being reckless quote unquote, like it's almost like the illusion

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Speaker 5: of reckless, but it's really within the play design. And

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Speaker 5: I just think he's been he's been awesome. Teammates love him.

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Speaker 5: The stadium loves him, you know all those things. I

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Speaker 5: think the opponent fears him. I think it's really cool

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Speaker 5: to see. You know, he is definitely on the mount Rushmore,

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Speaker 5: on the podium. Whatever you want to say. With the

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Speaker 5: top quarterbacks in the game right now.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff as always, Matt Hasselbeck, my friend, thanks on

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Speaker 2: a Monday for.

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Speaker 1: Stopping by Seeklin. Yeah, it's a It was the nuttiest

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Speaker 1: day all week. Jmack kept telling me Atlanta looks tasty,

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Speaker 1: and I said, Jmack, I can show you receipts of

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Speaker 1: thirty years betting the Falcons. But there were some genuine surprises.

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Speaker 1: I mean, green Bay with extra prep to lose at

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is a job dropper and in the box almost

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Speaker 1: squandering a lady six leagues at home with Baker. I mean,

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Speaker 1: now we had one major upset, we almost had four

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Speaker 1: other ones major Colin.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you the list of quarterbacks who threw

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Speaker 3: for under two hundred yards yesterday. Matthew Stafford, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson Kyler, Murray bo Nix, Aaron Rodgers, Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: threw for one hundred and twenty one yards and one

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Speaker 3: thirty to nothing. Yesterday was crazy. Nothing's making sense. How

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Speaker 3: is Stafford held to two hundred yards? I don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is I mean, they came, they had a

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Speaker 1: chance to seal that game.

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Speaker 2: Pooka dropped the touchdown. It wasn't easy, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: not easy, but.

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Speaker 1: He dropped that and then you think, okay, they'll get

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Speaker 1: a field goal and it got blocked and that was

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Speaker 1: the game. Like, if you're on the road against Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: you got to make one of those two. You either

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Speaker 1: got to make the field goal or you got to

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Speaker 1: catch the touchdown. And when they missed both, I was like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you cannot do that against Philadelphia because Philadelphia in the

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Speaker 1: second half, I mean you saw it. They just decided

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to AJ Brown and the Rams don't

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Speaker 1: have the personnel to stop that.

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Speaker 3: So do you still trade AJ Brown if you're the

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Speaker 3: Eagles or do you just hold on to them.

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Speaker 4: Let's move here.

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Speaker 1: I pulled that take over to a rest area. I'm

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we give you the Herd Hierarchy. Let a sneak

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Speaker 1: of bears in there.

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Speaker 5: Come on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a little off to me, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just I'll try to be positive on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the News turns this is the Herd

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Speaker 3: I think the audience is going to be rooting for

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Speaker 3: the Colts to be ahead of the chiefs and the

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Speaker 3: Herd hierarchy. Let's start with those fumbling, bumbling Kansas City chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Colin, Hey, look at this drama.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey, little chest bump, will shut

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Speaker 3: your mouth a little. I don't know what's going on here.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was anything. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: kind of Read pumping his guys up. But then if

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Speaker 3: you look at that angle, Colin Read is actually hot.

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Speaker 3: He's very heated. Here's Andy down playing of course the interaction.

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Speaker 9: So I love Travis's passion. Man, So I'm okay, with that,

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Speaker 9: we didn't have enough of it. Second quarter. It wasn't

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Speaker 9: where we needed to be within reason. You know, he

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Speaker 9: knows he knows when to when to back off the

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Speaker 9: pedal and knows when to push it too. So that's

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Speaker 9: part I love about him and the guys all in,

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Speaker 9: you know, just sometimes I have to be the policeman.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know Steve Kerr and Draymond Green when they

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Speaker 1: were in the middle of that dynasty, there were.

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Speaker 2: Locker room.

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Speaker 1: Collisions like I think this is I mean, Brady and

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel. This is the one thing I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say when you get it, when you have a great

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Speaker 1: team and you've won titles, the intensity and the pressure

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Speaker 1: to win again, all eyes on you. Like this stuff

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Speaker 1: doesn't bought a Peyton Manning in his prime and Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday going at it. It's like, No, that's the way

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Speaker 1: it works. When you're a bad team, you're not as

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Speaker 1: all in and that you have less like like I mean,

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Speaker 1: these guys are playing for legacies and titles. Kelsey, this

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Speaker 1: could be his last year. Andy Reid, He's not going

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Speaker 1: to be coaching in seven year. So whenever I see

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Speaker 1: great teams as they age and they have these dust

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Speaker 1: ups like sometimes as Dynasty's age, what you lose is juice,

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Speaker 1: and I think Andy Reid said we just did not

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Speaker 1: bring the juice in the first half.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: They also had one of these in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: on the sideline, so that's two in the last four games.

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Speaker 3: By the way, here's Travis Kelce's season numbers. Ten catches,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty four yards in a touchdown. That's

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Speaker 3: like a Trey McBride Sunday. Okay, Travis Kelce season has

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Speaker 3: ten catches.

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Speaker 1: Colin, I think, well, I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: Travis is going to have great games like Baltimore next week.

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Speaker 2: He'll be ready to go oh.

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Speaker 3: Really, Okay, yeah, he's gonna Torturo Kwan Smith and come okay,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to but I'm saying he's

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Speaker 1: at the point in his career where he picks his

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Speaker 1: spots a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That's not ideal, but I think he is. He is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he picked this last night as a

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Speaker 3: spot to light up the Giants, and he had four

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Speaker 3: cats since for twenty six yards. Colin, again, I know

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Speaker 3: Chiefs fans thinks I'm just being a hater. If you

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Speaker 3: watch them, this is not the same Chiefs team from

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Speaker 3: two three years ago.

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Speaker 4: It's just not.

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Speaker 3: No, they are not They're not good. They can let's

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Speaker 3: get at all cannot. Yeah, let's go to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Colin listen, I don't know what honor Jerry Jones is

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Speaker 3: talking about. I guess he felt like neglected and people

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Speaker 3: weren't talking about him, so now he said something silly again,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones after the loss to the Bears, where they

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Speaker 3: looked terrible, he still believes his team is playoff caliber?

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Speaker 1: Is this a.

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Speaker 2: Playoff caliber team? The Cowboys?

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Speaker 10: I will tell you yes, yes, And it's because you

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Speaker 10: saw number four out there today and you saw what

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Speaker 10: I think we're capable of doing in the running game

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Speaker 10: and that type deal.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I fully do.

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Speaker 10: Now we've got to as we evolve toward the playoffs,

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Speaker 10: we've got to get better defensively.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, Ceedee Lamb gets hurt. This is

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Speaker 1: a very top heavy roster. You take out Micah, the

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Speaker 1: defense is worse. When they took out Ceedee Lamb. You've

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Speaker 1: got turpin and Tolbert Pickens does not separate. He's just

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Speaker 1: hard to bring down. You've got solid tight ends. Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott wanted to throw the ball down the field. You

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Speaker 1: could see him. He was getting time to throw when

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Speaker 1: he was patting the ball. Dak is not a dink

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Speaker 1: and dung guy. Dak was trying to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field, Jason. When Ceedee Lamb was out, nobody

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Speaker 1: is open. Dak had time he was. Dak wanted to

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Speaker 1: throw down field and there Pickens is a great after

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Speaker 1: the catch, hard to bring down guy, but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: separate like Ceedee Lamb. He's not that guy. And so

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Speaker 1: I think what happens is basically yesterday. No Micah knows

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and it's a bunch of b players and

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Speaker 1: see players. Those guys are a's. You take him out,

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Speaker 1: there is a major drop off off. I mean, Jamonte

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Speaker 1: Williams has been nice. Dak is very good, but Dak

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Speaker 1: was limited. There's just nobody to throw to that gets open.

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Speaker 1: Look how open the Bears receivers were, Look how open

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were when Ceedee Lamb got not good.

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Speaker 3: You know, since my car got repossessed from losing bets

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Speaker 3: on the Titans and Falcons, I may have to just

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Speaker 3: put everything. I've got everything. Maybe you confront me my

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Speaker 3: salary on the Packers this week against the Cowboys. Kyle

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Speaker 3: if Ceedee Lamb is out there getting destroyed, and I

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Speaker 3: think they lose anyway. I think Jordan Love is going

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Speaker 3: to do what Caleb did and what Russell Wilson did,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to like this defense up in Cowboys Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Cowboys season over of one and three?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just I mean, I think we both said this.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons they moved off the Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: contract is they just did not want to be top heavy.

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Speaker 1: So now they have four first round picks in the

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Speaker 1: next two drafts, and those could become because they don't

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback. So Jason, that's a great place to

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Speaker 1: be in. We got two first round picks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna take their two firsts and probably

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Same with Cleveland. Dallas has two firsts

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Speaker 1: and they don't need a quarterback. Okay, that's incredible leverage.

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Speaker 1: So what Dallas needed to do was listen, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be bad for a year. He's gonna go to

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Speaker 1: Green Band be great. We're gonna look like idiots. Just

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Speaker 1: wait till April. Dallas will refurnish their roster. They'll get

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Speaker 1: multiple picks out of their two first. They're just not

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Speaker 1: equipped right now. If Ceedee Lamb gets hurt, there's nobody

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Speaker 1: that separates on this receiving court.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we take it a step further, Colin, instead

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Speaker 3: of just having a couple picks, why don't we go

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Speaker 3: and move Trayvon Diggs to somebody who needs a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I mean, our center's out there.

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Speaker 4: Let's just start training guys on our defense. It ain't

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Speaker 4: stopping anybody anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is not terrible.

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Speaker 3: Now Diggs has a bad I think Biggs, I gotta

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Speaker 3: look at his contract before I speak.

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Speaker 4: But you guys just start moving off defenders. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Just somebody want pickings for a stretch run here? You

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Speaker 3: know he's playing for a contract.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Kansas City g like at some point,

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Speaker 4: if you're Dallas, if you get smoked by the packers,

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Speaker 4: you're one and three. I know it's nobody wants to tank,

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Speaker 4: but why not what I consider it, Colin?

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Speaker 1: I think they're I think Houston may want to start

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Speaker 1: moving parts.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I mean, well they've got

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Speaker 2: I mean they have.

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Speaker 4: No offensive line. What's on? No, but the Chargers could

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Speaker 4: be in the market for offensive line. They need some help, right.

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Speaker 1: No, I think the Chargers O line rams corner. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a handful of team. I mean, Kansas City

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Speaker 1: may be in the market for a running back man.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you need a shopping list segment of who's going

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Speaker 3: to be going after pick at all. It does feel

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Speaker 3: like every year the Chiefs are going to be in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, right It feels like it's kind of

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Speaker 3: wide open right now.

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Speaker 4: Like if I ask you who's going.

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Speaker 3: To be in the Super Bowl NFCAC right now, who

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Speaker 3: you got?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think I like Buffalo, but I don't love the

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Speaker 1: back end of their defense.

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Speaker 2: They need home games. They're susceptible.

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Speaker 1: No, And I think the weather will be an advantage

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Speaker 1: because the way to beat Buffalo show the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field and you know, on lowsy weather. I think

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Buffalo. I think the Chargers you have to take seriously.

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Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia and Green Bay rams everybody but Philadelphia's

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Speaker 1: got holes.

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia has bad habs, but they don't have roster liabilities.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Final story Colin college football. By the way, this weekend

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Speaker 3: in college oh my state. Yeah, this past.

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Speaker 4: Weekend it was fine.

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick at North Carolina got smoked by UCF. I

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Speaker 3: watched some of this. They are in neckt Colin. It

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Speaker 3: was thirty four to nine. Belichick has been outscored eighty

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Speaker 3: two to twenty three by two Big twelve opponents, and

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Speaker 3: they have one of the worst offenses in the country

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Speaker 3: five point three yards per play. Not looking good for Belichick.

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Speaker 3: I will admit that I whiffed on this. I just

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Speaker 3: thought Belichick could coach him up, and he's look a revel.

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Speaker 1: Look at Bill Belichick's offensive career without Brady Cleveland pre

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Speaker 1: Brady new England post Brady new England Carolina. Look at

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Speaker 1: his offensive output. I mean I watched i YouTube. I

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Speaker 1: didn't watch it live. I was watching Nebraska Michigan was

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Speaker 1: the game I was already concentrating on, and then Syracuse

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Speaker 1: Clemson early in USC late. But I watched the YouTube

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Speaker 1: highlights on this. They don't have any playmate, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they just don't have good enough offensive players.

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Speaker 3: The staff wants me to know that we have video

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Speaker 3: of Belichick's young girlfriend giving him a pregame pep talk.

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Speaker 4: So can we roll that footage here?

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to see Jordan Hudson's very nice outfit.

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Speaker 4: He's got the knee high boots. The I'm gonna stop

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Speaker 4: describing it. Bottom line.

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Speaker 3: That's about the highlight there for the Tar Heels, who

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Speaker 3: next faced Clemson. CLEMS is not good, but this game

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Speaker 3: had a lot of interest, like I don't know, five

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Speaker 3: weeks ago and now it's like, oh goodness.

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Speaker 1: I guess people, I guess John Gruden didn't like this

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Speaker 1: a lot this morning on the wake up.

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he said, never seen this wife or

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Speaker 1: girlfriend on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it.

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Speaker 1: I I mean she's running sort of his social media

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Speaker 1: stuff and maybe.

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Speaker 3: He wants to be on television. What do you dor

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Speaker 3: to make of it? She wants the cameras picking her up.

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Speaker 3: You don't take that outfit is look at me?

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Speaker 4: Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Come on, you're maybe right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. By the way, this weekend Oregon at

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Oh that's going to be good. Yeah, bamat Georgia,

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Speaker 1: USC at Illinois. I'll be there, LSU and all miss

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Speaker 1: that is going to be some heat.

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Speaker 4: I just texted the wife Saturday, I'm off limits. You know,

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: let's get it. Let's get an uber for the kids.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think, I like boy.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to bet against Penn State at home at

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Speaker 1: night too, that's a rough one. I'd probably take Penn

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Speaker 1: State USC.

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Speaker 3: I'm not betting against Dan Lanning and a big spot.

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: James Strengthlin loves to lay a big egg. You know

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Speaker 3: that against teen does James Franklin.

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Speaker 2: You can never win the big game.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is it.

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Speaker 2: God, that's gonna be great TV. Jmack with the News.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you you know I said last

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Speaker 1: week Jim Harbaugh greatest football coach of all time?

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Speaker 2: All I got. All I got back was pushback.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you watched yesterday because another example of that.

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Speaker 1: It's the hurd.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 6: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: Start your Saturday strong with Big Noon Saturday Number twenty one.

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Speaker 3: USC is looking for a big ten statement win as

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Speaker 3: they take on.

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Speaker 4: The twenty third ranked fighting a line e. It all

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Speaker 4: goes down live.

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Speaker 3: From Champagne, starting with big noon kickoff at ten am Eastern.

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Speaker 3: Then it's you, I see Illinois only on.

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Speaker 1: Fox, got my red shoes taking the train down to

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Speaker 1: Champagne orvanad You didn't.

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Speaker 4: You say Illinois was gonna be in like the playoff or.

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Speaker 5: Something that was?

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Speaker 2: Then I watched the Indiana game.

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Speaker 3: The Indiana quarterback is now like a Heisman contender.

786
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Speaker 4: I was like, what who is this guy?

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Speaker 1: So, first of all, we've talked about this a lot

788
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Speaker 1: on the show. There are so many good offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: that before you bury a quarterback, he probably has a

790
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Speaker 1: potential career resurrection. So Mac Jones the league gave up

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Speaker 1: on it's over. Not Kyle Shanahan. He's now two and

792
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Speaker 1: zero with the San Francisco forty nine ers, and he's

793
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Speaker 1: not handing the ball off to Christian McCaffrey eighty attempts

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Speaker 1: in his two starts. So Mac Jones is Again, there

795
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: are so many smart offensive coaches.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan's one of them.

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Speaker 1: You think Mac Jones' career is over, it used to

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Speaker 1: be twenty years years ago.

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Speaker 2: It would have been over. Not what happens anymore.

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Speaker 1: You get second, third, and fourth chances because of the

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00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: great offensive coaching. Daniel Jones. I mean we all rolled

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Speaker 1: our eyes when he went to the Vikings. Oh give

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Speaker 1: me a break, They're not gonna make Daniel Jones. But

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is throwing the ball down the field for

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Speaker 1: the Colt six of nine yesterday on downfield throws. But

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Speaker 1: he was always a big guy who moved well. He

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Speaker 1: is spinning it. Danny Dimes is Danny Dollars. He is

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Speaker 1: spinning it.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 1: So this is something we've been on for two or

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Speaker 1: three years. It used to be if your first team

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Speaker 1: and you didn't work, it was over. You may get

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Speaker 1: a second chance. Guys are getting second, third, fourth, fifth

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Speaker 1: chances and Mac and Dan Jones look great thanks to

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Speaker 1: great offensive coaching and decent support systems. The other thing

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Speaker 1: is Matt Hasselbeck was on earlier. We talked about Herbert

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Speaker 1: and Harbaugh. If Jim Harbaugh could go to the lab

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Speaker 1: and create a quarterback, it would be a big, smart, strong, tough, coachable,

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Speaker 1: egoless quarterback. And that's what Justin Herbert is. Herbert yesterday

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Speaker 1: got hit fourteen times. He got pressured on fifty five

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Speaker 1: percent of his snaps. He got the snot kicked out

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Speaker 1: of him, and that kid just stayed in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: And I think his physical resilience is remarkable. And here's

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Speaker 1: here's Matt Hasselback earlier on Harbaugh unlocking Justin Herbert to

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Speaker 1: another level.

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Speaker 5: Harbaugh basically said, listen, I'm going to get the best

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Speaker 5: of Justin Herbert by having this philosophy. And now you're

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Speaker 5: seeing it this year. You're seeing Justin Herbert put the

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Speaker 5: team on his back, playing like an MVP, making all

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Speaker 5: world throws in the pocket, feeling healthy enough to do it.

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Speaker 5: I think Harbaugh has the vision for what Herbert can be,

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Speaker 5: and everyone's buying in. Everyone's buying in. I think the

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Speaker 5: opponent is starting to buy in a little bit too, like, oh, shoot, man,

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Speaker 5: this guy is one of the elite coquarterbacks. You know,

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Speaker 5: even when we call the perfect play defensively, he goes

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Speaker 5: above the x'es and o's and makes stuff happen.

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Speaker 1: I thought the AFC West was the most difficult division

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Speaker 1: for me to predict. I picked Denver, Kansas City Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Rashawn Slater injury would be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a death knell for the offense. Well, they've

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Speaker 1: unlocked Quinton Johnson, who looked like a bust a year ago. Nope,

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Speaker 1: Lad McConkie still great, Hampton now coming into his own.

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Speaker 1: Joe All didn't give up a sack yesterday, but moved

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Speaker 1: right tackle the left. He's been excellent. And Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: is now fourteen and seven as a Charger coach. Twelve

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Speaker 1: to zero last year at Michigan, so Jim Harbaugh's last

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Speaker 1: thirty three games. He has a winning percentage of almost

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Speaker 1: seventy nine percent at Michigan with the Chargers, and he

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Speaker 1: inherited a mess. The culture was broken, the defense was broken.

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Speaker 1: Herbert wasn't broken, but he wasn't at his best. He

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Speaker 1: had regressed. Now and I've said everybody in life, if

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Speaker 1: needs their kingmaker, it doesn't matter if you're listening to me.

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Speaker 1: You're a salesperson, you're a manager, everybody. You can't do

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Speaker 1: it in an island. And justin Herbert was always talented.

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Speaker 1: We have unlocked. We have unlocked the perfect marriage. And

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Speaker 1: I said earlier there have been great matches and marriages

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Speaker 1: in our life. Harbaugh and Herbert take a back seat.

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Speaker 2: To nobody.

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Speaker 1: You can say what Simon and Garfunkel. Don't tell me

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Speaker 1: Herbert and Harbaugh could not have been Simon and Garfunkel,

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Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi, don't tell me they're taking a back

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: seat to those guys, or Abbott and Costello. I'm not

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Speaker 1: buying it. Herbert and Harbaugh are in their class. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Batman and Robin jmact, don't kid yourself. These guys are

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Speaker 1: the Batman and Robin of the NFL. Zick, Freed and

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Speaker 1: Roy may be a little bit of a stretch. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, this one's a bit of a stretch. All

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Speaker 1: I know is when I watch Herbert and Harbaugh, there

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Speaker 1: are coaches and quarterbacks that like I think Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Reid won the great play designer and won the hyper

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Speaker 1: creative quarterback. Reid and Mahomes is a perfect marriage. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: coaches tolerate quarterbacks Pete Harrol, Russell Wilson. It feels like

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Speaker 1: they're tolerating each other. Herbert and Harbaugh. To me, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what Jim Harbaugh was, a less talented version

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Speaker 1: of Herbert. Big, tough, strong, smart, resilient, tough like that,

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Speaker 1: That's what Harball was. He didn't have huge talent, but

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Speaker 1: he was talented. I think Jim knows, like we all know,

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Speaker 1: he came here for Herbert. I think Herbert's better than

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Speaker 1: he thought. I think Justin Herbert is better than Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh thought. And I think Jim Harbaugh and that opening

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Speaker 1: press conference thought he was great.

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Speaker 2: You think Freeden Roy is a bit of a s thretch,