WEBVTT - EP 25 - Kelsey Pt. 1 

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was the first one to be like, does

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<v Speaker 1>this seem off at all to you? It was really

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<v Speaker 1>the first time someone said something that made me think,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean off? Like? I was immediately defensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, a show about

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<v Speaker 2>the people we trust the most and the deceptions that

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<v Speaker 2>change everything.

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<v Speaker 1>When I hear other people's horrific stories of things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened to them, I now have a lens of

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<v Speaker 1>what a human experience to love so deeply that we're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to suspend disbelief that high is Like, I truly

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<v Speaker 1>believe that deception really comes from a deep desire to

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<v Speaker 1>be loved, and I can sympathize with a desire to

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<v Speaker 1>be loved.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Kelsey's story of building her life around someone

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<v Speaker 2>else's lies. Lies that consumed Kelsey's twenties, derailed her early

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<v Speaker 2>career and destroyed her sense of trust. For many years,

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<v Speaker 2>she tried to hide from the deception she experienced, but

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<v Speaker 2>now she's ready to tell her story as a listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Note names and locations have been changed to protect privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>When she was a little girl, Kelsey's mom told her

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<v Speaker 2>the origin story of their family unit It was a

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<v Speaker 2>survival story.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was really abusive to all of us kids

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom, and so my mom was finally able

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<v Speaker 1>to get out when I was about three months old.

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<v Speaker 1>She packed all of us up, left my dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>drove cross country to my mom's hometown. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mom, in the three girls, started anew in a

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<v Speaker 2>small West Coast town, but the fear of her dad

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<v Speaker 2>was always looming in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually went to prison after my mom left, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he got out of prison, there was this fear

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<v Speaker 1>that my dad would find us one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Nearly everyone in their new town was Mormon, and their

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<v Speaker 2>family wasn't. Their dad was Cuban, so Kelsey and her

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<v Speaker 2>sisters stood out in a sea of blonde hair and

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<v Speaker 2>blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my mom would like brush out my hair

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<v Speaker 1>so I looked more white, and so I looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the other Mormon girls in town, and then essentially told

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<v Speaker 1>me not to talk about my background, which worked because

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<v Speaker 1>she was also I think, hiding us from my dad

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<v Speaker 1>in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mom's survival story had another chapter for Kelsey's entire childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mom battled breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was finally getting away from my dad. But then

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<v Speaker 1>she had a bout of answer. She thought she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to die from.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, Kelsey didn't know the details. She just

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<v Speaker 2>knew her mom was exhausted and was always going to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was definitely on purpose. I think that she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be super careful, and even when I asked

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<v Speaker 1>her about it, I even remember her saying, this was private.

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<v Speaker 1>This is adult things. I don't want to scare you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm protecting you from this information.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's escape was the Girl Scouts.

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<v Speaker 1>I had this tiny pocket of girlhood that was so fun,

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<v Speaker 1>like waiting once a week with my girlfriends to earn badges.

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<v Speaker 1>When I think about where I felt like I mattered most,

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<v Speaker 1>it was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the summer, she started going to Girl Scout Camp.

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<v Speaker 2>There she was allowed to just be a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go for weeks at a time. I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved summer camp. I was meeting women who were older

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<v Speaker 1>than me, who were models of what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>to really be yourself. Oh. I have the best memories

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<v Speaker 1>at Girl Scout Camp.

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<v Speaker 2>The women who ran the camp were Kelsey's idols. She

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be just like them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought they were so special. And cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, that's it. I'll be there one day.

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<v Speaker 2>As she got older and entered high school, she started

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<v Speaker 2>dreaming about broadening her horizons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do whatever it takes to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the state I was raised in and really find myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got perfect grades and worked truly hard in school.

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<v Speaker 1>That This was also around the same time that I

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love for the first time, and I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with a girl in the grade above me.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey and her high school girlfriend kept their relationship a secret.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the mid two thousands and they were

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<v Speaker 2>in a mostly Mormon community at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was afraid of being gay, definitely afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of the implications of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she set her sights on going to college in

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<v Speaker 2>a place where she I could be out and be herself.

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<v Speaker 2>She was accepted to her first choice and made the leap.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved being on my own for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I came out and openly had a relationship and thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was so special. And I was doing really good

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<v Speaker 1>in school.

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<v Speaker 2>But her family's finances took an unexpected turn, so after

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<v Speaker 2>the first year, Kelsey had to transfer to a new university,

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<v Speaker 2>one that she'd be paying for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>I transferred to the public university. I was just pretty

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<v Speaker 1>isolated and it wasn't the dream for me, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>all I could afford.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked to put herself through college, and she started

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<v Speaker 2>working summers as a counselor at her old girl Scout camp.

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<v Speaker 1>It was life changing and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>By her third summer, she earned an executive leadership role

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<v Speaker 2>at the camp, helping coordinate all the younger counselors.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing real programming work and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm our camp that year early because senior staff meets

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<v Speaker 1>early before counselors get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Arriving at camp was a much anticipated reunion where she

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<v Speaker 2>saw all of her closest friends again.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of friends at camp, like I

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<v Speaker 1>had been really established there. This was the first work

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<v Speaker 1>experience I ever had when I was out, and for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time at camp we had other queer people.

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<v Speaker 1>They really diversified our pool of hiring that year.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the new counselors immediately caught Kelsey's attention. Her

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<v Speaker 2>name was Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her walking into the office. She was very sporty,

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<v Speaker 1>so she had the classic Arii look, and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>cut off hair, and she just had the most beautiful eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember thinking, ah, mostly because it was the

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<v Speaker 1>most radical thing I'd ever known for someone to cut

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<v Speaker 1>off their hair.

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<v Speaker 2>When they first met, Morgan was shy. She kept to

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<v Speaker 2>herself and seemed guarded.

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<v Speaker 1>I found her to be really mysterious.

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<v Speaker 2>But she and Morgan had a close mutual friend In comment.

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<v Speaker 1>My other camp friend really vouched for her and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, when she opens up, you're going to love her.

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<v Speaker 2>And over time she did. It felt like she chose Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt really honored. I just felt like she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of opened up more to me. I felt really privileged

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<v Speaker 1>to be the one person that she was opening up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we would spend the weekend after training just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you got

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<v Speaker 1>her to talk to you. That's how shy she was.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was telling me like really intimate details about

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<v Speaker 1>her life.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Morgan was only twenty years old, she'd been

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>She had shared about some sexual assault, body dysmorphia, struggles

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<v Speaker 1>with an eating disorder. I just felt like I really

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<v Speaker 1>knew her.

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan confided in her, forming close bonds was a hallmark

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<v Speaker 2>of the camp experience. They would be spending every day

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<v Speaker 2>together for the next three months.

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<v Speaker 1>In camp time, that's three years. It's a massive amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time that people don't normally get to spend in

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<v Speaker 1>a very intense environment where you're like growing and learning

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<v Speaker 1>and changing about yourself and funding things from kids and

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<v Speaker 1>teaching kids of remarkable things that change you. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is a lifetime together.

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<v Speaker 2>At camp, there were no cell phones, no distractions from

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<v Speaker 2>the outside world, and in this bubble, Kelsey knew she

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<v Speaker 2>was developing feelings from Morgan, but she was in a

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<v Speaker 2>leadership role, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this camp relationships are famously passionate and intense

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<v Speaker 1>and destructive, which is why we avoid them at all costs.

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<v Speaker 2>So they continued on with a supercharged friendship. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a connection Morgan needed at home. She'd been struggling with

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<v Speaker 2>an eating disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>She had shared that she was really struggling with her

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<v Speaker 1>eating disord order at camp and eating with your campers

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<v Speaker 1>is such a huge part of the experience, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>with your campers twenty four to seven, and we're really

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<v Speaker 1>rigid at camp about calorie intake and water intake.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of structure and vigilance around food was really

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<v Speaker 2>triggering for Morgan. In fact, it was having an impact

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<v Speaker 2>on her job performance.

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<v Speaker 1>She had gotten disciplinary write ups from the camp director.

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<v Speaker 1>If she didn't get it under control, this was not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the job for her.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of losing Morgan at camp was upsetting. Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>felt a responsibility to help as both a friend and

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<v Speaker 2>a camp executive.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she was really nervous about losing her job

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<v Speaker 1>because she really loved the work. I remember spending all

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<v Speaker 1>of my free time. I got books from the local

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<v Speaker 1>library and brought them up to camp and was reading

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<v Speaker 1>about eating disorders. Like I really became resource to stay in.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll help you stay don't worry. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this under control. And I really felt responsible for that.

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<v Speaker 1>They were spending a lot of time together. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>they had days off. We would travel as friends, like

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<v Speaker 1>off to go to Walmart and get face wipes, or

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<v Speaker 1>to a local festival. We tried to get as much

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<v Speaker 1>time off from camp as possible. My outside of camp

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<v Speaker 1>time be king Morgan time.

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<v Speaker 2>About halfway through the summer, they took a day off

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<v Speaker 2>together and drove to Kelsey's hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think there was this little switch. One weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just alone for the first time really together,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we kissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was clear that the attraction was mutual.

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<v Speaker 1>After that week, we started sharing like a journal. So

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<v Speaker 1>we had a notebook that we would write notes to

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<v Speaker 1>each other and then keep it in a cubby, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'd write it put it away, and she'd write

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<v Speaker 1>it and put it away, and so we sort of

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<v Speaker 1>had this very sw romance at camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Near the end of camp, Morgan's parents came to town.

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<v Speaker 2>They were devout Mormons, and on that visit, Morgan wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to come out to them. Kelsey drove her to meet them,

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<v Speaker 2>to be there for emotional support.

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<v Speaker 1>She met with her parents and I wasn't with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the parking lot, but I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them at a picnic bench. She came out to them

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't go well. She got back in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, they believe I'm living in sin. They

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<v Speaker 1>think this is wrong. They think that any person who

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<v Speaker 1>had influence over me is of the devil, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I should separate myself from those people. She was really

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents' rejection brought the two of them even closer.

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<v Speaker 1>It sort of deepened that connection. It was like, look

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<v Speaker 1>what we're fighting for.

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<v Speaker 2>There was so much at stake, and Morgan was now

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<v Speaker 2>left on our own. They made their relationship official, and

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<v Speaker 2>when camp ended, Morgan couldn't go home, so they decided

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<v Speaker 2>to move in together.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all like, what cow adult, We are well

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<v Speaker 1>for own space and our own beds. So it wasn't like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I live with my girlfriend now. It was very much

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<v Speaker 1>like we were just continuing the summer camp experience. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were on that high of the summer flame.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Kelsey's last year of college. At first, living

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<v Speaker 2>with Morgan was a novelty. Even mundane tasks were exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Figuring out bus schedules, like everything was just really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I also remember doing paintball fights and making cookies and

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<v Speaker 1>burning them for the neighbors. But soon reality set in.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working also a full time job while I

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<v Speaker 1>was in school because I had to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing everything to put me on the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>to go to my master's program, and at this point

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<v Speaker 1>I was on track to be valedictorian.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's priority was school.

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<v Speaker 1>We just weren't getting this much time together and we're

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<v Speaker 1>like drifting a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But right when the semester began picking up steam, Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>started receiving emails from Morgan's family.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember them very explicitly. One was from her dad.

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<v Speaker 1>One was from her mom, saying that it was an

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<v Speaker 1>abomination that I was poisoning Morgan, that I took her

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<v Speaker 1>away from the life of Christ. It didn't help that

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<v Speaker 1>the person Morgan was waiting for it to come back

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<v Speaker 1>from a mission had come back and they had really

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<v Speaker 1>hoped that she would marry him. Every time I got

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<v Speaker 1>a message from them, it was very nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>The message was clear. They thought Kelsey brainwashed their daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and they wanted her to leave Morgan alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan's very sacred and pure. Stop this now before you

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<v Speaker 1>ruin that forever for her, like they deeply wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make me hate myself, so I didn't feel deserving of Morgan.

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<v Speaker 2>The messages were overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>After a couple months, it got complicated very quickly. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just that feeling of thinking that I was destroying

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<v Speaker 1>someone's salvation.

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<v Speaker 2>It was taxing, but Morgan was fixated. All she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do was talk about her parents with Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm with you, I care about you, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't process this with you all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I started feeling like she needs to branch out,

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<v Speaker 1>like I realistically can't be everything for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the stress of school and the drama with Morgan's parents,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's connection with Morgan was fading.

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<v Speaker 1>That intimate connection felt like stayed at camp. In the

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<v Speaker 1>real world, it was kind of hard to sustain because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of ambition. I was really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about starting my life somewhere new, and it just suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, this is kind of affecting my ability

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<v Speaker 1>to be president work in school, and I'm really rigid

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<v Speaker 1>about doing right by my career.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kelsey made a tough decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, I came home from school one day and said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not what I want anymore, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's better if we break up. She said okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then left. What she would do a lot when she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to process something, she would go for a run.

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<v Speaker 1>So she went for a run and came back and

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<v Speaker 1>I was already asleep, and she was asleep, and we

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<v Speaker 1>went to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, Kelsey came home from school to find

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan on their couch in tears. There was something she

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<v Speaker 2>needed to tell Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with her and she had explained that

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<v Speaker 1>she had been hiding something from me that she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to me about because she didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to burden me with it. But she just got really

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<v Speaker 1>bad news. I honestly thought at the time that it

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<v Speaker 1>was something with her parents.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't about her parents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when she shared that she had been living with

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<v Speaker 1>terminal bone cancer and she was in remission, but her

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<v Speaker 1>doctors gave her the prognosis when she was at the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor today that she had three months to live.

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<v Speaker 2>Just when Kelsey thought her relationship with Morgan was over,

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan came to her with devastating news. She had bone

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<v Speaker 2>cancer and she was Kelsey was no stranger to cancer.

0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.800
<v Speaker 2>She grew up watching her mother's breast cancer go into

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<v Speaker 2>remission and return again. It was a horrible cycle, and

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<v Speaker 2>to think another person she loved was going through this

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<v Speaker 2>was hard to fathom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I got it at first.

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan had known about the diagnosis all along, but she

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<v Speaker 2>was just telling her now that the cancer had returned

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<v Speaker 2>when she only had three months to live.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her more details. She said she was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>when she first went to college. She had an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>a bone break. They did some testing and they discovered

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<v Speaker 1>that she had cancer. She was fighting it for about

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<v Speaker 1>a semester, but she beat that bout and then had

0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.840
<v Speaker 1>overcurrence until that day.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so flooded with grief for Morgan that the

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<v Speaker 2>breakup became an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling so deeply sabbed because my breakup with

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan was never about not loving her. I cared about

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<v Speaker 1>her so deeply. The thought of her dying was insane

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<v Speaker 1>to me and felt so unfair, especially to have this

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<v Speaker 1>prognosis with her family not being very close. I was

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<v Speaker 1>devastated for her. We were sobbing, and then we went

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<v Speaker 1>to bed and I remember holding her, thinking, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like my partner going through cancer. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>oh my ex girlfriend from yesterday. This was someone I

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<v Speaker 1>love so deeply dying, Like this really is the end

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<v Speaker 1>of someone's life.

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<v Speaker 2>The next morning, Kelsey woke up with a new perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed the way I framed our relationship. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that she was alive, and I was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out together.

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<v Speaker 2>So she sat down at the kitchen table with her

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<v Speaker 2>laptop and a notepad to talk about what this would mean. Luckily,

0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Morgan had some answers.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I already have a plan with my doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start treatment. It's really unlikely that I'll survive

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<v Speaker 1>this treatment, but it's worthy of taking a shot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what she did.

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<v Speaker 2>During the day, Kelsey would attend class for her senior

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<v Speaker 2>year of college, and Morgan would spend the day at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>The next few weeks, she was doing treatment all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like four or five times a week. She would leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house and come back really tired and struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a conversation, struggle to stay awake. She was just

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<v Speaker 1>deeply impacted by the treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickly, Kelsey took on a caretake her role.

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<v Speaker 1>I started really doing some research and taking care of her.

0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I was making meals once again. She was juggling the

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<v Speaker 2>way of school and being there for Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>I distinctly remember trying to complete homework and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't finish this. She's puking somewhere, thinking like, get

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<v Speaker 1>your priority straight. This is someone's life, this is the

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>end of their human life, and you're worried about like

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<v Speaker 1>not finishing this math problem, Like why was I wasting

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<v Speaker 1>my time on these early morning classes for like my

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<v Speaker 1>own benefit when she only had a few months left

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<v Speaker 1>to live. I just suddenly felt selfish and stupid. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the moment that I reframed my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>For the first time in her life, Kelsey let school

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<v Speaker 2>take a back seat.

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<v Speaker 1>I was letting go of a lot of things I'd

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<v Speaker 1>worked my whole life toward. But I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can do this for three months for somebody to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the last few months of their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas was a few weeks away. With Morgan's family out

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<v Speaker 2>of the picture, they decided to celebrate with a family front.

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 2>An older woman named Joanne, who had been a mentor

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<v Speaker 2>to Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, considered her like a second mom. We drove

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<v Speaker 1>out of state to visit her. This family friend was

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<v Speaker 1>with her when Morgan got her first diagnosis of having

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.959
<v Speaker 1>bone cancer, and she was with her when she was

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<v Speaker 1>doing IVY treatments. To meet someone who was so intimately

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<v Speaker 1>involved with her treatment, I felt really bonded right away.

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember her saying, I didn't even know what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. I just got kind of thrown into this

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I didn't know what I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing either. It was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Relief to talk with someone else who'd been involved with

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Morgan's care. She was a great resource. For Christmas, Morgan

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<v Speaker 2>and Kelsey got each other something special.

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<v Speaker 1>We got rings for our wedding.

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Rings for their wedding. Morgan wanted to get married to Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a legal and financial decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Her attorney had shared with her that when she died,

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<v Speaker 1>her health payout would be really big and it would

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<v Speaker 1>go to her parents because that's next of kin, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was really over for her, Like she had fought

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<v Speaker 1>so hard for her queerness and now suddenly in her

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<v Speaker 1>death as a queer woman, all this money would be

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<v Speaker 1>granted to her parents. But if she were married to me,

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<v Speaker 1>then I would get to decide where that money goes.

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Morgan wanted the money to be donated to a library foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey was honored to help facilitate one of her final wishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, whatever you need to do, what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the end of your life, so for

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 1>her this was a really meaningful way of honoring her life.

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<v Speaker 1>So we agreed that we would get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey felt a responsibility to make sure every day was

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<v Speaker 2>a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to make our life so joyful and loving

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<v Speaker 1>and silly. And that's how we just tried to spend

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<v Speaker 1>our time. We didn't have very much left, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The days were still difficult, especially as Morgan's health worsened.

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>She would go to treatment and come back and throw up.

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>She was tired all the time. I remember coming home

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>from work and she'd have like fallen over. She seemed

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>very weak to me. And this is also how my

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>mom would describe her treatments going through breast cancer. Morgan

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>would like lose her hair. I'd come home and she'd

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 1>have taken a nap and she'd have hair on the pillow,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, oh my god, your hair.

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<v Speaker 2>This only furthered Kelsey's resolve to support Morgan. She offered

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>again to go to the hospital with her, to be

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 2>by her side as she got treatment. Morgan said no,

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.479
<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to be a burden.

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>She was very very clear that this was her private

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 1>journey and that she had already burdened me enough and

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 1>she didn't want me to lose work or lose school.

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>After all, it was Kelsey's job that kept them afloat financially.

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 2>As the weeks went on, the treatment seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>slowing the progression of her cancer, and Morgan hit the

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<v Speaker 2>three month mark.

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>By that time, we had gotten word that she'd beat

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that bout of cancer. There was a lot of medical language,

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>but essentially it was like, we're doing good. Hold on,

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 1>not you'll live, but like, I'm feeling okay today and

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of weeks because I think this

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>treatment is working.

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<v Speaker 2>For the past three months, Kelsey had been bracing herself

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 2>for the end, putting her all into caring for Morgan.

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 2>It had been exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>I still worked full time. I still finished my degree.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time graduation came around, I just like barely

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>made it. Like I barely emotionally, physically, spiritually made it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember being an empty person when my family

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>came for graduation. I just felt like nothing.

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 2>In her last semester, she earned b's and c's, and

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<v Speaker 2>her dreams of being valedictorian were dashed. Instead of giving

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<v Speaker 2>the valedictorian speech, she applied to be an honorary student

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>speaker at commencement.

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I was able to stand alongside the valedictorian, which would

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<v Speaker 1>have been me and share my story about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with my partner, like what it really meant for me

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to give up my schooling in order to help someone

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I loved.

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<v Speaker 2>After she graduated, they finally had the time to plant

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<v Speaker 2>a small wedding ceremony. At the time, same sex marriage

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't legal in their state, so they had to travel.

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>She didn't feel good enough to fly, but she did

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<v Speaker 1>feel good enough to drive, so that's when we booked

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>our trip for our wedding ceremony.

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey drove them to California, with Morgan asleep in a

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<v Speaker 2>passenger seat. Along the way, they camped in national parks.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something really beautiful and intimate. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the end to me. She just didn't seem all there,

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>but there's something about being in nature together, and our

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>dynamic started in nature. It was actually really beautiful the

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>whole trip. We took disposable cameras and it was very

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>fleeting and lovely. And I remember one of the nights,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>just before we had our ceremony, we slept on the

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>beach of the Lost Coast, and there was something really

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>poetic about waking up. Morgan was still sleeping and I

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>got out of the tent and like looked out into

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the ocean and just thought, like, if I can love

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<v Speaker 1>someone this big one day after Morgan's passing, someone will

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>be able to love me in this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Back the day before the ceremony, they both sat down

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<v Speaker 2>to write their vowels.

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<v Speaker 1>We wrote our vows on like hotel nap kiss, like

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<v Speaker 1>my white dresses in the corner. I'm like sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>with this piece of paper, and I suddenly didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say. It's like, vows are for promising to someone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know how to promise something to her

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<v Speaker 1>in her death. Like it just suddenly felt wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was nerves she couldn't help but overthink the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a stopping into my head and so I

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of cleared my head of everything. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was the commitment she made, promising her that the memory

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<v Speaker 1>of her and who I knew her to be, and

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<v Speaker 1>like the love that people didn't get the chance to know,

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>especially her family, that would live on.

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<v Speaker 2>They delivered their vowels and signed the papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Zequoia National Park, we drove into the woods and found

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<v Speaker 1>a really neat tree that was two trees that like

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<v Speaker 1>Corp screwed into one and there was like one little

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<v Speaker 1>spot where you could squeeze into, and so we squeezed

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<v Speaker 1>into these trees. Then signed the paperwork and we left.

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<v Speaker 2>Being officially married was a relief. It was the final

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<v Speaker 2>thing Morgan wanted to do before she passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>We drove back from California and I was like driving

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<v Speaker 1>into the sun as it was going down, thinking, I

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<v Speaker 1>know in my heart that I'd done everything that I

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<v Speaker 1>possibly can for Morgan to feel love twell. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I had finished what I needed to do. I

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>remember her looking at me with a lot of love

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and like she saw me as a wife. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt her relief, like Okay, got it, Everything's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be okay. I obviously interpret that differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, in less than a year, Kelsey and Morgan went

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<v Speaker 2>from being twenty one year old at camp to being

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<v Speaker 2>a married couple handling a terminal disease. Now they were

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>committed to each other for however much time Morgan had left,

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey had been accepted into a master's program across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither of them expected Morgan to be alive for that

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<v Speaker 2>next chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>We're legally married, and now it's a little complicated because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to bring up like how am

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<v Speaker 1>I supposed to navigate the next few months.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Morgan's successful treatment meant she had more time she could

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>take a break from treatment, but her cancer was still

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 2>deemed terminal. No one knew how long she really had left,

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>not even her doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very much like, this is what we've been told,

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and we're lucky to have this little bit of extra time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was suddenly another continuation, another chapter of live like

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<v Speaker 1>you're dying.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey didn't know what this meant for her plans to

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<v Speaker 2>start graduate school. She barely got through her last semester.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really conflicted. I was like, oh, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is everything I've worked for and I can still go.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I still got in and I can still do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't because it's gonna be with Morgan. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful that she's still alive. I'm truly grateful, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like I've lost myself and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to gain it back if she's still here.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I hadn't planned for it.

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<v Speaker 2>She was worried about juggling her master's program and supporting

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Morgan at the same time. She didn't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>she could handle that, but she decided.

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<v Speaker 1>I said we would do this, and we're married now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now we're going to travel across the country

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<v Speaker 1>and start my masters together.

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>They rented a U haul and began the cross country drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Along the way, they made a pit stop to see

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Joant Morgan's mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>She was sort of our middle point between the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast and the East Coast, And when we got to

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>her place, I immediately sensed that there was some sort of

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>tension between them, like maybe an argument had been had

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know about it. It just felt like

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>we were kind of dancing around something that was unsaid.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>It was clear something had come between Joanne and Morgan.

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Joanne said she wanted to talk to Kelsey in private,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just couldn't find the right moment. At the

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>end of their stay, I.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Could tell that she was holding back from saying something,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>but she just said, Okay, good luck, and that was it.

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>So there was sort of this like mystery about this

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>odd dynamic. We had walked away from it, and that

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>made me nervous. I distinctly remember being in the U

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>hall and Morgan being asleep next to me and thinking

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>we're about to move to a new state. I don't

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>know anyone in. She doesn't know anyone in. We have

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>no friends or family, and the one really close family

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>connection that she has she sort of just had a

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>rupture with. It was really the first time I thought like, oh,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this is really just us now.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>When they arrived in their new city, they had to

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>face the reality of living alone. Kelsey found a job

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 2>in hospitality while she started her master's degree, but Morgan

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>was too sick to work.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And the reality of affording grad school, working full time,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>going to school full time, paying for both of our lives,

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and also paying for cancer treatments medicines was really a

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>tremendous burden.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey was only twenty two and she was the sole provider.

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Morgan found new doctors, and now that they were married,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey was paying for more of Morgan's care.

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I would say like twenty five percent of every paycheck

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>was going to Morgan, and so after a couple months

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<v Speaker 1>of being on the East Coast, it was like thousands

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and thousands of dollars we were pouring into anything related

0:32:58.840 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to her health.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Became hyper fixated on financials.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember specifically googling what it actually costs if someone dies.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.959
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to be cremated, and I just remember looking

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>at this fifteen hundred dollars price tag thinking I'm never

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>going to get what I need to cremate her.

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.239
<v Speaker 2>But she found it hard to have open conversations with

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Morgan about it.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Because she didn't want to talk about death. It was

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>just like every tiny little thing was overwhelmingly my responsibility.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>It had been a year since Morgan shared her diagnosis.

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Even though Kelsey was now paying for Morgan's care, she

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>still wasn't privy to the details of it.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even sure how to broach the topic of like,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>can we go together to your doctor to get an

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>update on what we can look at? Can we reassess

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>your medications?

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>But Morgan didn't want to talk about it. She wanted

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>to do everything alone, and that worried Kel's what.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Happens if I don't know where you are, how do

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I get like your health wreck? Like there was suddenly

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>some logistics that didn't really have the answers to the.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Lack of information was becoming a real problem for Kelsey.

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>It became a wedge in their relationship.

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>This is where things started shifting in our dynamic where

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like I need real concrete answers, what is your

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>current prognosis, Like how is your body doing? Where is

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the cancer in your body?

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Without any answers, she was getting frustrated. She felt like

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't help Morgan if she didn't have all the information.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>That year, they spent Christmas with Kelsey's family.

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>We flew home. Morgan was so sick that she could

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>barely even talk. She was lethargic. She's sleeping all the time,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>she was throwing up. Whatever new medication, whatever new treatment

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>she was trying, was really taxing. Like I remember taking

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>photos together that trip, and she's sleeping in all of them.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>This was the second in time they thought it was

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>their last Christmas together, and it was the first time

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's mom was getting to really spend time with Morgan.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>My mom had pulled me aside at some point during

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>this holiday, and she was the first one to be like,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>does this seem off at all to you? And it

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was really the first time someone said something that made

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>me think, like, what do you mean off? I was

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>immediately defensive.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Still, Kelsey's mom insisted that something didn't add up. She

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 2>was starting to feel skeptical about Morgan's story.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>My mom, who obviously has experience of cancer, was like,

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>it just feels off, Like when she's around us, something

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>feels off.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Before this moment, Kelsey had never doubted Morgan's diagnosis. For

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>nearly two years, her entire life revolved around Morgan's health.

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I had felt like a bad person for even feeling

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>burdened by cancer. I had never considered doubting it at all.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But this is when I started to feel doubtful. And

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that was when she started breaking bones.

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<v Speaker 2>On the next episode of Betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Facebook message She's like, I've been down

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<v Speaker 1>a rabbit hole about Morgan. I have proof there's a

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:34.959
<v Speaker 1>lot more to the story. And that's when it really

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>blew open.

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