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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. There is a lot

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Speaker 2: But Congress is a special type of mess. Right now.

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Speaker 1: Republicans can't unite on a speaker, Democrats have members demanding

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Speaker 1: allegiance to Hamas, and one Krunger's woman, well, she treats

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Speaker 1: her staff so poorly they actually rebelled and taped.

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Speaker 2: Her and then leaked the.

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Speaker 1: Audio so we could all experience the ugly side of

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Speaker 1: being a staffer in Washington, DC. And you thought carjackings

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Speaker 1: were the worst part, but turns out it's just the

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Speaker 1: working for certain Congress people. I have Rob Finnerty here

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Speaker 1: at the host of Wake Up America on Newsmax, to

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Speaker 3: Rob, welcome back, good to see you. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. It is good to see you too. Too bad.

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Speaker 2: We do have all these crazy things happening.

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Speaker 1: So I just want our audience to know we are

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Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday. And I say that because everything

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Speaker 1: is happening so fast in the house, or maybe I

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Speaker 1: the time you hear this on Wednesday, maybe there's a speaker.

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Speaker 1: I'm not holding my breath, though, what do you think, Rob.

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Speaker 3: I think we have a speaker before the end of

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Speaker 3: the day today it seems like I do. I do.

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Speaker 3: I actually I said that on the air this morning.

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Speaker 3: So no one had any idea this was going to

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of the eight rebels so called rebels,

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Speaker 3: it's between I think Mike Johnson of Louisiana and then

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Speaker 3: I think although I would prefer personally Mike Johnson, I

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Speaker 3: they went through Jim Jordan. Mike Johnson is not somebody

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Speaker 3: the nominee, if he becomes president in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how well Emma and he will work together.

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Speaker 3: But it seems like that's the way this is trending

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Speaker 2: Yes he is. Now he's been voted through on the

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Speaker 1: They did a roll call vote and they have more

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Speaker 2: So I just how do you think they get there?

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Speaker 2: Because we have these people that I.

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Speaker 1: Think just continued to say, oh yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: And I think the frustrating part for people who understand

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Speaker 1: this is a system that you can break. It is

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Speaker 1: But we don't want to be the first generation to

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Speaker 3: And I think it's important. You know, I was not

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Speaker 3: And this happened this was before October seventh, So this

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but we went through that five day I

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Speaker 2: I hope. So I was also I was in the

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Speaker 1: They wanted Kevin McCarthy out. And I understand that there's

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Speaker 1: Not every Republican comes from a strong red disc and

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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that whether you are

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Speaker 1: I mean, we want more Republicans than Democrats, and I

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Speaker 1: I want, But this system of government is compromised and

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And I think Republicans have a great chance of

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Speaker 3: this hasn't been a front page store. I finally I

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Speaker 3: play out in Israel. And no, no one wants to

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's approval rating, the numbers. CNBC had a poll

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's got the same thing right now, he's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still a weird election when you have all

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing him in these hearings, We're seeing

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Speaker 1: Obviously we're going to be watching what's going on in

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Speaker 1: We hear Anthony Blincoln coming out just in the press conference,

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Speaker 2: Every time he goes out.

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Speaker 1: I only want when if we get the hostages back,

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Speaker 1: Like this is not the message, but the clear message

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, about the being worried about Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: that's such a good point. And I think now, so

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Speaker 3: this is day seventeen, since October seventeenth, I think people

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Speaker 3: answer is no. And look, elections have consequences. But Democrats,

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Speaker 3: takes office. Seven months later, Kable falls through that, Russia

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Speaker 3: Then after that, I think Taiwan could fall next. Do

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Speaker 3: No way, They're going to do it while Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they were waiting for this.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, And honestly, you talk about

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Speaker 1: whether he's ready for that phone call. I was nervous

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Speaker 1: do that too? I mean, this guy, you can't get

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Speaker 2: There's just there is no youth to him.

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Speaker 3: What sixty billion dollars? We finally looked into it, all right,

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Speaker 1: think that we need to. I mean, we don't support terrorism.

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Speaker 1: We need to support Israel. They are one of our allies.

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Speaker 1: They are a key ally in that region. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that's something that people don't understand. You have

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Speaker 1: to have someone on your side in that region of

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Speaker 1: the world. But we have all of these social media

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Speaker 1: influencers that are going out and they are, you know,

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning quarterbacking everything that happens in this war. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry. You are twenty five and

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Speaker 1: you've been in front of.

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Speaker 2: A podcast Mike your whole life, well you know about

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Speaker 2: a war. Will take your information from generals, from people

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Speaker 2: who have lived this. When they come out and they say,

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Speaker 2: don't take don't immediately think that we're going into World

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Speaker 2: War three. But we have to be aware.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, what Lincoln said today, this

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Speaker 1: is the Secretary of State coming out and for the

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Speaker 1: first time saying Iran, if you do this, we're coming

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: That's serious. Now, we're serious.

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Speaker 3: I wish it was the president though.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, yes he won. He has not said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't said anything. I think he's mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 3: Iran four times in the last three months, even in passing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why we continue to try to appease Iran.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me. Re Entry into the

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Speaker 3: Iran nuclear deal makes no sense to me. I don't

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Speaker 3: like saying, hey, what if Trump were president, would this

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Speaker 3: be happening like this? But do you think that Trump,

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Speaker 3: if he were still in office, would use maybe a

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Speaker 3: little bit stronger language to condemn Iran? The Wall Street

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Speaker 3: Journal the attack happened Saturday, ten to seven. On Monday,

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Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal basically had a report concluding that

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Speaker 3: terrorist attack. You're right, ten to seven is Israel's nine

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Speaker 3: to eleven. And just like we've got Holocaust deniers now,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a movie I saw not long ago.

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Speaker 3: It's called Denial. Came out in like twenty sixteen Rachel Weiss,

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Speaker 3: and it's based on a true story of a group

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Speaker 3: of Holocaust deniers. It's an excellent movie. But there are already,

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Speaker 3: again less than three weeks removed from this tragic, terrible

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Speaker 3: terrorist attack in Israel, there are already ten seven deniers

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Speaker 3: out there, and a lot of them are social media

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Speaker 3: influencers and these idiots that people listen to and then

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Speaker 3: they propagate whatever they're hearing from people who have no

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Speaker 3: idea what they're talking about. In tutor, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: military expert in any way, shape or form, but I

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Speaker 3: like to think I'm somebody that's fairly read in and

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Speaker 3: to think that this is anything outside of what America

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Speaker 3: experienced on nine to eleven is it's shameful if you

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Speaker 3: think anything outside of.

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Speaker 1: That, well, and you're held to a higher standard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're out there, you're not trying to get clicks. You

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Speaker 1: want to get people information.

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Speaker 2: There is a different goal with people in the position

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Speaker 2: of being a journalist, someone who's delivering information. It has

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Speaker 1: So many It's funny because I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: times before this happened, many of us have kind of

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Speaker 1: thought back to some of these other wars in the past,

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Speaker 1: Vietnam and World War Two. Certainly, what would it have

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Speaker 1: been like had social media been around. I mean, Vietnam

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Speaker 1: would have been a nightmare for all those guys that

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Speaker 1: it was already a nightmare when they came back and

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Speaker 1: people were denying that they should have gone and treating

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Speaker 1: them horribly. But then you think about World War Two,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, I always thought if the pictures were coming out,

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Speaker 1: people could have seen the concentration camps, everybody would have

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Speaker 1: been outraged. It would have ended faster. And now I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I also this is probably just I

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Speaker 3: think this probably happens every generation. So, you know, nine

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Speaker 3: to eleven, we didn't have social media, right, so the

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Speaker 3: the biggest sports stars in the country were going to fight,

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Speaker 3: you know, for America after that, and people in Hollywood

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Speaker 3: World War two, and I just think, again, my grandparents

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Speaker 3: both fought in the Second World War, both my grandfathers

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Speaker 3: and my grandfather I'm from Boston, and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was amazing. He's like, Pearl Harbor happens, and Ted Williams,

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Speaker 3: the best baseball player at the time, en lists a

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Speaker 3: couple of days after Pearl Harbor. So does Joe DiMaggio,

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Speaker 3: so does Joe's brother Dom, and then Bob Feller, this

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Speaker 3: pitcher I think for the Indians. He had this great quote.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you know, they were like, why'd you

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Speaker 3: you know, you gave up this lucrative pitching career, you're

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Speaker 3: the you know, the best pitcher in baseball. And his

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Speaker 3: quote was, I thought it was time to get busy fighting.

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Speaker 3: And they all made it back. But it gives me

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Speaker 3: that was an error the greatest generation of American heroes.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know, I see these Harvard kids, and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this last week, the Harvard kids. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: bad for those Harvard kids that sign this because they

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Speaker 1: did everything they could to get into Harvard. They were

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Speaker 1: really careful to get into Harvard, and they knew, they

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Speaker 1: knew what this message is.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, as we go, I want to switch

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Speaker 1: gears a little bit to the presidential election because I

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Speaker 1: do think that this is going to play into that.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that people are going to be

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Speaker 1: watching Trump carefully because I think you're right, he would

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Speaker 1: have been tougher. But I think that the Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: who was elected in twenty sixteen, had he been in

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Speaker 1: office for eight years, he would have continued to be

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Speaker 1: that guy. And he's changed a little bit. And I

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Speaker 1: wonder how this version of Donald Trump will handle this

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Speaker 1: out on the world stage with all of the noise

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Speaker 1: behind him. We're seeing these legal cases in Georgia. We've

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Speaker 1: just got Jenna Ellis now she pleads guilty. You've got

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Speaker 1: Sidney Powell pleading guilty. All of these people pleading guilty.

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Speaker 1: What does that look like for Trump on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason that Trump was so successful, at

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Speaker 3: least when it comes to foreign policy when he was

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Speaker 3: in office is because, and we've all heard this, people

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Speaker 3: like Jijingpang, Vladimir Putin, the Shah in Iran, there wasn't

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Speaker 3: a dossier on Donald Trump. He was an unknown quantity

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Speaker 3: because he s he'd never held elected office, he had

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Speaker 3: never even been dog catcher. I mean, he was unknown

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Speaker 3: outside of you know, writing books and being a celebrity.

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Speaker 3: So that variable, I think made a lot of our

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Speaker 3: adversaries uncomfortable. Whereas Joe Biden, the guy was in the

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Speaker 3: Senate for thirty five plus years, he was vice president

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Speaker 3: for eight years. Everyone knows Joe Biden's tendencies, his peccadillos,

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Speaker 3: and what he's likely to do in a given situation,

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Speaker 3: and that has not served us well. I'm not convinced that,

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Speaker 3: let's say Trump does get re elected, I'm not convinced

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Speaker 3: that everything is just well. This didn't happen when he

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Speaker 3: was in office four years ago, It's not going to

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Speaker 3: happen now. I think that our adversaries know a lot

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Speaker 3: more about Donald Trump, and I'm not sure, and no

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Speaker 3: one talks about this, but I'm not certain that serves

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump well if he actually does get elected again.

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Speaker 3: Back to your question about everything happening legally, we have

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Speaker 3: attorneys and some very very bright people on every week,

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Speaker 3: Alan Dershowitz, Jeorge Seculo, Andrew Neapolitano comes on all the

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Speaker 3: time just to sort of fill in the blanks with

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Speaker 3: what's going on in each one of these cases, and

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Speaker 3: it's really tough for people to follow the bouncing ball.

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Speaker 3: This is not good for Donald Trump. I think what

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Speaker 3: happened in Israel Tutor has taken him out of the

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Speaker 3: He hasn't won a news cycle, by my count, in

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Speaker 3: more than three weeks. Normally Trump is the news cycle.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't won a news cycle in more than three weeks.

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Speaker 3: And that opens the door not a lot, but ever

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Speaker 3: so slightly to people like Nicki Haley and even Ron DeSantis,

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Speaker 3: whose campaign has been an abject disaster. I think he

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Speaker 3: will learn from it and run again down the road.

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Speaker 3: We can talk about that in twenty twenty eight, twenty

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Speaker 3: thirty two, whenever. But the door is open for people

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Speaker 3: like Nicki Haley right now.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think that I mean, I think what

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Speaker 1: you said there was really interesting. I just want to

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Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit to people knowing who Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is now because I think that you make a really

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Speaker 1: interesting point that I haven't heard anybody talk about, and

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Speaker 1: that is You're right, no one knew him, but now

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Speaker 1: they know what buttons to push, and he does have

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Speaker 1: buttons to push, and we can see when people on

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Speaker 1: And I think that some of that also goes to

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Speaker 1: the fact that, I mean, he's been doing this a

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Speaker 1: long time, he's been attacked for a long time. He's

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Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure. And I know everybody says, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's he doesn't crack, that he doesn't pressure doesn't bother him.

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Speaker 1: At a certain point, it has to get to you,

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Speaker 1: and that I think you're right, that is the lane

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Speaker 1: for a Nikki Haley to come in, especially at a

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Speaker 1: time like this, because not only is she someone who's saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure our border is secure because

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Speaker 1: we don't know who's coming across the border, and don't

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Speaker 1: we should not accept the amount of deaths that we

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Speaker 1: have from fentanyl every year. I think that's been unique

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Speaker 1: for her. I think everybody has been kind of railing

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Speaker 1: on the border, but she's come at it from a

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Speaker 1: perspective of we're losing more people than we lose in

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Speaker 1: a war, and that's a big deal. And instead of

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Speaker 1: just closing the border, we need to stop China from

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Speaker 1: making fentanyl that has played.

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Speaker 2: Well with people. I think she also has that in

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Speaker 2: with women that we haven't had in a very long

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Speaker 2: time in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I honestly think that Trump's not going to

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Speaker 3: debate in early November. That'll be the third debate in Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 3: It's on NBC. I believe that's smart for Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: because he is unlike any nomination process we've seen, maybe

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Speaker 3: going back to the sixties, he can run out the clock.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be voting in Iowa in less than

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Speaker 3: three months January fifteenth, A couple weeks after that, it's

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire and then they just they go like Domino's

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Speaker 3: at South Carolina, and then early March is Super Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: If Trump wins in New Hampshire and Iowa, forget it,

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Speaker 3: that's the ballgame. And if he doesn't go on the

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Speaker 3: debate stage, people like Chris Christy, who's not very popular

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Speaker 3: certainly with the MAGA crowd, they don't stand it, and

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Speaker 3: it'll be over before spring.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of people saying yesterday

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Speaker 1: that he didn't have a big enough crowd in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: That New Hampshire is if I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he seems to consistently bring in the big numbers. But

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Speaker 1: I also think you never know what these polls these days.

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Speaker 2: You never know. We could go into these primaries and

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Speaker 2: we could be completely shocked. I think it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back when it happens, then

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Speaker 1: we can chat about that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm so grateful you came on today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rob, Tutor, so good being with you. Thanks

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