1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Chests Podcast. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 3: He gonna get to that state. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 4: So let's go inside the matchup. Motivated Aaron Rodgers, Is 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 4: It Dangerous? 7 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers? 8 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Game Day and every day? Score a jewelry touchdown with 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Kendra Scott. Shot Fashion and find jewelry fit for another 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: winning season at your local store or at Kendrascott dot com. 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 4: Shine Bright, Do good. 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: With Kendra Scott. 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 5: Gentlemen, A lot to get to after the buye here? 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 5: Where did Jets go here? In December three and eight? 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 5: You got six games remaining. You have an interim head 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 5: coach in Jeff Ulbrick and interim general manager in Phil Savage. 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to go to work. That's all 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: you can do. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: You put your head down to you grind, you try 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: and get improvements. The foundation in the Courts team is 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: already intact. You know, this is a young team. 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: You talk about all the guys that they have under 23 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: the age of twenty eight. You have to hit their prime. 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: They had to come and collectively and they have to 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: decide who's going to be the leaders of this team 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: and how they're going to go forward and trying to 27 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: establish that culture rather all break is the future culture, 28 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Phil Savage is the future general manager. 29 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: You got to do that, you know for yourself, your core. 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Right now, we're auditioning leadership for the locker room. 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 5: You guys played in between those white lines. When he 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 5: says Bart says culture, what resonates with you. 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 6: Culture is it's the approach of how you do things 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 6: day in day out. It's how you prepare, it's how 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: you practice, it's how you play the game. Like the 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 6: culture is, when there's something that isn't right, the culture 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 6: fixes it. So if somebody is not accountable to their team, 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 6: to themselves because whatever, late for meetings, whatever's, the culture 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 6: fixes that issue. That's what the culture is. It's an 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 6: in house, locker room, legal way of handling all your issues. 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 6: Every team has, but the culture fixes those issues. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: One thing I want to get to here early is 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: Jets chairman Woody Johnson really wants to win and also 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 5: understand where fans are coming from because they're so disappointing, 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: disappointed with this season in terms of what the expectations 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: we're we're talking about it on prior to coming in 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: and here and taping. But Bart, I want you to 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: address that because you're a guy who not only is 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: common in the media space, but you played here as 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: well as far as what he wants to do to 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: put the resources here behind everybody so they in fact 52 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 5: can win. 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: I mean it goes back to environment, right, It goes 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: back to culture, and you're gonna hear best always talk 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: about that, because the culture is the standard, right, And 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: when anything's going right, you have to go back to 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: your mission statement? Is this does this fall under for 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: our mission statement? And you know you're trying to build 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: something that's sustainable. 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: Right. 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Too often the JETS in this organization has had periods 62 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: of success, but it hasn't been sustainable because you have 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: to culture is like it doesn't matter, right. One guy 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: comes and leaves, another guy comes in, he falls right 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: in line. It's like, okay, this is just how we 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: do things. And you hear with Mike Tomlin all the 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: time the standard is the standard, and you have to 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: ask yourself, it's just the standard. Is what you're doing, 69 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: you know, representing what we believe and what we stand for, right? 70 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: And in what is a JET right? And remember when 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Rex came here, we had this what is a jet 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: And you know, you have to ask yourself that and 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: you have to define that. But that's defined not by 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: what you say, but by what you do and how 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: you play. And that's not about winning or losing. Right 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: when you do things the right way, it just entails 77 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: that you know, you may have success. It doesn't guarantee it, 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: but like when you don't have the same success, you 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: still believe in what the core principles are because you know, 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you have a better 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: chance to being successful if you. 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: Lean on those, on those rules and those morals. 83 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: I like what Jeff Albrey said, this sweep all these systems. 84 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: The tape has no context. That's who we are. That's 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: the DNA that does not. 86 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 6: The tape is your resume in it. You know, it 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 6: never lies, Okay, I mean, whether it's effort, whether it's technique, 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: whether it's a fundamental like those things show up, play 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 6: and play out. And honestly, that's when you come out 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 6: of that film room on Monday. If they still do 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 6: those kind of things, you come out you know, like 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 6: the whole team knows. 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: They know, because. 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 6: Really peer pressure is such a big part of this thing. 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: This goes back to culture. What part is saying is 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 6: absolutely right, But you don't want to let that guy, 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 6: you don't want to let that guy next you down. 98 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 6: And so it could be just simple as effort, you know, 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 6: just getting to the football. Good things happen when you 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 6: get to the football. Those things are cliches, but they're 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 6: cliches for a reason. And so I think that's what's 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: really important, is you know how you see things as 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 6: a group, and you don't want to let anybody down. 104 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: Can we speak to those foundational pieces because you said 105 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: you think the Jets do have the potential to have 106 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: a strong foundation when you have a guy like brist Hall, 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: you have a guy like Garrett Wilson. 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: Do you got old fashioned or you got Joe Tipman. 109 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: You go on the other side of the ball. 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 5: You gotta Jermaine Johnson is gonna be coming back from 111 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 5: injury next year. You gotta Quinnin Williams, you gotta quin 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 5: Sea Bully. 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: And Michael Krry. 114 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Everybody's young, you and you come in to age together 115 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: and you have to understand not everybody's going to come 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: along for the full right But you know, as long 117 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: as you hear you have to respect the fact that, 118 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: you know, the one thing that is undefeated is time, 119 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: and at some point it'll be your time. Like you know, 120 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: sometimes time is wasted on the young and it's only 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: when you are running out of time when you appreciate it, 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: you know. But in this league, that could be any 123 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: play that's play to play, that's not game the game, 124 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: that's not year to year, that's not season a season, 125 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: it's play to play. And when you play with that 126 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: sense of desperate urgency, sense of urgency in your preparation 127 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: every day, because it's not just on Sunday. It's what 128 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: you do in the weight room, it's being accoumbo, it's 129 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: putting the film study on. But once you start to 130 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: be able to we always say, don't farm your own land. 131 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: Once you be able to to to make sure that 132 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: your land is good, then you have to reach over 133 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: and pull people up, because it's it's a push pull, right. 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: You got you got veterans, you know, and you got 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: and you got young guys. You got guys in between. 136 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: It's important for the the the middle guys to put 137 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: the young guys up and also push the guys in 138 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: front of them, right, So that's why you hear like, 139 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: oh man, we you know you hear some of these 140 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: young guys or people talk what was it a big 141 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: place sleigh right talking about you know all these young 142 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: guys many puse energy and zippy, right, because they don't 143 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: eat off it. 144 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't know what they know. 145 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: So everybody has a purpose in a circle of life 146 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: of football, right, because we always say, like you know, 147 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: my momm used always say like once a man, twice 148 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: a baby, right, But that's that's true. Also in football, 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: you come in and you're young, you don't know nothing, 150 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: then you learn everything, and then you're too old. 151 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: In your mind can tell you what to do, but 152 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: your body won't allow you to do it. 153 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: So like to to a certain extent, you know, once 154 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: a man, twice a baby twice, young or incapable or 155 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: on your way out right, just coming in green, don't 156 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: know nothing, run around like a chicken with your head 157 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: cut off, and so like you have to you have 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: to appreciate the circle of life and those that come 159 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: before you. And when the jets start getting to the 160 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: point where it's about committing legacies, right, I went down 161 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: to Baltimore because I was doing my Turkey run, and like, 162 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: I go in that room and it's like the all 163 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: the fifty sevens that have been there, relatives O. J. Bragance, myself, CJ. 164 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Moseley. They say they'll eventually put him there when he retires. 165 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: But you go in that linebacker room and it's a 166 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: sense of pride that if you strap on, you put 167 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: that you put not only that number on, but also 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: if you put that that jersey on, it has a 169 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: reputation for a certain style of play. 170 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: That you have to represent. 171 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 6: And I want to suggesting, you know, not to cut 172 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 6: you off part, but like you know, the Ravens should 173 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 6: beat the Chargers, right, And so Roquan misses his first game. 174 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so who leads the team in tackles but Harrison? 175 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 176 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: Malik like from Ohio State. Yeah yea, but I. 177 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 6: Mean Malik has never played like that before, but he 178 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 6: got a chance. Rokwe goes down. He's their leader, he's 179 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 6: their captain everything. Bleak steps in leads the team attack. 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: What's happened in the Laton games for the Jets? 181 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: Why can't they finish? 182 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 5: Can you pinpoint an issue here? When you speak to 183 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: before the buye was Indianapolis or maybe or maybe the 184 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: New England game or Denver, or you can talk about 185 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 5: Buffalo late, or you're not able to complete the comeback 186 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 5: against Minnesota. 187 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: Go. It's for everything, Like with everything, it comes down 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: to attention to detail. And it's just like sitting there 189 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: and playing basketball, sitting at the free throw line, like 190 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: you hit these a thousand times in practice. 191 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: But now pressure right now in the anticipation. You know, 192 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: your heart rate goes up. 193 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: You know what's there. But you got to think the game. 194 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: You can't just react in that game because most games 195 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: are are lost, not one, and you have to you 196 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: have to understand just just do your job. Let that 197 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: person be the one to make the bottom mistake. No penalties, right, no, no, 198 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: no self fulfilling thing like because it feels good to use. 199 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: So now you want to Mike Thomas says, some one time, 200 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: I think it was Pouncey and so he said, it's 201 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: a famous clipping. He says, you have to regularize that 202 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: this cause is bigger than you. 203 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 4: I don't know, he's just on the sideline, but he 204 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: had it all late penalty Yeah yeah. 205 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you got to realize that the calls is 206 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: bigger than like, So you can't let your personal feelings 207 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: get into attached to it. You got to do what's 208 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: best for the team, and it's best for the team only, 209 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: you know. 210 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,479 Speaker 3: So when you think about. 211 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: That, not not going outlaw like trying to trying to 212 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: make a play right, you know, and you look at 213 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: examples like that, and never to call anybody out, but 214 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: just example teachable moments. 215 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: You know, when Clemens in. 216 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills game when they had to have it 217 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: these circles to circles to circles, Clemens. 218 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: Knowing that he was going to have it right. Then 219 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, same thing. Right. Things come back to repeat themselves. 220 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: And the thing is you can't just learn like and 221 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure Clemens because I think it came up to 222 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: that in another game. He was there to make the 223 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: play right, but Richson was just too big, too strong. 224 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: But he was there so just anticipating. But it can't 225 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: be just him learning the lessons. Everybody has to learn 226 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: for those mistakes. I tell people all the time, the 227 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: veteran is not a veteran because he didn't make mistakes, 228 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: and veteran. 229 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: Because he's made all his mistakes and he's learned from it. 230 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: So when those times occur and they present themselves again, 231 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: he LANs on experience. 232 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: Can you speak to the situation that Jeff Ulbrick and 233 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 5: Phil Savage are in right now in their interim positions. 234 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 6: Well, I've been in this situation before when my head 235 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 6: coach got fired and our interim coach stepped in. 236 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: Same thing. 237 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 6: Defense coordinator gets elevated to the head coach, and you 238 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: know there's a different message, there's a different sound in 239 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 6: the room, that it's different than what it had been, 240 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 6: which isn't always bad and sometimes it can be good. 241 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 6: But you know this stage right now, like this team 242 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 6: has to become more mature. They they have to be 243 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 6: more accountable. Like whoever's in charge is in charge, but 244 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 6: you want the players to eventually take charge. And so 245 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 6: I feel like if you go back to the question 246 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 6: you asked Bart about what's happened at the end of 247 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: these games, at the end of Denver Indianapolis, like there's 248 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 6: got to be a collective mindset that we're going to 249 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 6: make the play instead of giving up the play. And 250 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: in age case, in every one of these breakdowns at 251 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: the end of the game, it's either communication, it's the 252 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 6: things that you should be fixing on the practice field 253 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 6: that show up in the game and they get exposed 254 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: about a lack of communication or trust or knowing what 255 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 6: the other guy was doing, because you always see it 256 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 6: like they're always kind of doing this at the end 257 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: of these games, and that should be fixed out there 258 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: on the practice field. 259 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: I want to get both of your thoughts. Woody Johnson 260 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 5: leading the search for a new GM and head coach, 261 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: but also using the thirty third team that includes Mike 262 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: tannemb I'm Ford Jets executive and Rick Spielman to help 263 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 5: in this process. 264 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean that's how you know that you know he 265 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: wants somebody from outside, because you know, sometimes perspective matters, right, 266 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: and sometimes you can be too close to something and 267 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: be too personal to it, so you want an objective look. 268 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: And you know he did this with Charlie Cassley. I 269 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: believe it's. 270 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Reb Wolf and Royn with right, so you know you 271 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: lean to you know, these type of things. So it 272 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: just shows that he's trying to make the right decision. 273 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Is not a decision that's made, you know, solely by itself. 274 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: Now he's going to take all the information at the 275 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: galley and he's going to make the decision that he 276 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: chooses and what he decides, but he's going to have 277 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: some of these searches narrowed down and seeing like what's 278 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: the best combination, because I'm sure he doesn't want to 279 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: do this. He wants to have a general manager that's 280 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: been played for fifteen years, that's passing it down the 281 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: legacy to his assistant general manager and continue to have 282 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: that continuity, that one singular vision right and be able 283 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: to build the franchise the right way so that its sustainable. Like, 284 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: you know, you can't have this constant turnover because everybody 285 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: has different ideas about how they want to build a 286 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: football team. And you know, if you go from one 287 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: guy to the next, roots to say that that's his vision. 288 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: So now you're starting. It's constant starting over all the time. 289 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: How pedificial the thirty thirteen? 290 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 4: Well are you? They have not yet in a long time. 291 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: I don't know last time we had a general management 292 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 6: and coach coming together the way he says, say, John 293 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 6: Lynch and Kyle Shannan came in together, same contract, same 294 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 6: amount of years, all that they work. They came in 295 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 6: night I think for the first time, because you know, 296 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 6: Joe Douglas came and Adam Gase was the coach, and 297 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 6: you know, so I feel like, I mean, you can 298 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: lean on thirty third team. I mean they're connected to 299 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 6: all these different teams. They're looking at all these assistant 300 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: coaches and all this stuff and the people that build programs, 301 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 6: Like it'd be good if they could come in together, 302 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 6: general managing coach come in together, share the same vision 303 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 6: about how to build a team, type of players, they want, 304 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 6: the culture that they are looking for, and they see 305 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 6: things through the same lench like they have the opportunity 306 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 6: to do that for the first time. 307 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: So you would like an establish working relationship between whover 308 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: the GM and the head coach. Is because we can't 309 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: talk about it, Jay, it's by the way, I don't 310 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: want anybody criticizing us up here because that's tampering because 311 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people talking about perspective head coaches 312 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: here in the National Football League or gem Ouptour working 313 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: for other teams. 314 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: So he can't get into. 315 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: Candidates right now. I don't. 316 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that they that they have to be 317 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: linked or have previous working relationship with each other. I 318 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: think they just need to share a similar vision and 319 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: be able to come together and understand that we're teammates 320 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: now and we're gonna sink or swim together, right, So 321 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: like you know that way, that way when when guys 322 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: come in they're linked with each other, then that means 323 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: if you do bad or you're not doing your job 324 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: as far as you know, uh, developing the culture and 325 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: and the statement. 326 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: You know, then you're gonna hurt my job. 327 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: And over here, if you're over here, you're not bringing 328 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: that the right type of players that that support the 329 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: vision that I have on the field, right because you know, 330 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: once you get to the field, that's a coach thing, 331 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: you know. 332 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: But as far as. 333 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Evaluated and being able to build the type of players 334 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: and that you want and and and assistant coaches and 335 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: stuff like that, that's general manager. 336 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 7: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 337 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 7: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shop game 338 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: day Ready, jewelry styles and so much more at Kendra 339 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 7: Scott dot com. 340 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: Have we seen anything here recently that you guys point 341 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: to and say, hey, you can flip it. You can 342 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: turn it pretty quick, because you ultimately you would have 343 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: to build the infrastructure, right, Yeah, you need a foundation 344 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 5: to play. 345 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but for me, you have infrastructure of talent players. 346 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Like so listen, isn't like whoever comes here is coming 347 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: here with a place that doesn't have a lot of 348 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: high end talent. I mean, we got the offensive defensive 349 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: player of the year, a two. 350 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Time All Pro, We have Pro bowlers. We have guys 351 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball that play at a 352 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: high level. 353 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: So it's not you got to come here and the 354 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: general manager got to do a lot of shopping, like, 355 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: oh man, it's gonna take us two to three drafts 356 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: to turn this thing around. 357 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Like I said, if you just. 358 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: Look out to the Chargers and see what they've been 359 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: able to do, you know, just with a change in culture. 360 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: They lost their two best receivers, lost their best running back, 361 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: and you know their defense who's always had the talent 362 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: but never lived up to a capabilities. 363 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: Did nes simply because you bring in a leader, one band, 364 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,239 Speaker 3: one sound. 365 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 6: Well to me, the winning teams and the teams has 366 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 6: sustained greatness over a period of time. Me, you have 367 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: two things. One, you never stop building the trenches because 368 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 6: to Barton's point, if you lose receivers you replace receivers, 369 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 6: but you can protect, you can run the ball, you 370 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 6: can get your short yard goal line plays. So I 371 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: think because I don't think that they have established that here, 372 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: Like I think Bart's has said it for two years. 373 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 6: They haven't had the right kind of defensive lineman. There's 374 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: certain things that are missing, big guys up front that 375 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 6: can just eat cheeseburgers and double teams. Offensive line has 376 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: always been unstable. They've been trying to build this line 377 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: here since Joe Douglas Camber. They've been trying to build it. 378 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 6: But if you look like if I go back to 379 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: my last year in Dallas, like we you know, Jimmy 380 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: Johnson comes in and they go one to fifteen, but 381 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: the foundation four to five stars of the offensive line 382 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 6: were already there. They drafted Stepanowski and then they have 383 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 6: the best line in football. So if you look at 384 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: Detroit and the culture they're building, who they do. They 385 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: invested in Pine sul, they invested in offensive linemen. You 386 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 6: look at jim Harball, all right, let me go get 387 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 6: Joe Oh. There's a bunch of receivers out here that 388 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 6: can make us look good. And I feel like, no, 389 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 6: they were John Joel and he's been the difference maker 390 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 6: up front and so to me, fix your trenches, like 391 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 6: that's what scotta get done. The quarterback is helpful and 392 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: he can help a lot of things out if you 393 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 6: get the right guy. 394 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: But build in the. 395 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 6: Trenches, like I'm watching John Frankle Meyers just eat it 396 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 6: up and like you see these guys leave the nest 397 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 6: here and he's playing great in Denver. But they wanted 398 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 6: to build in the trenches with Sean Payton and that's 399 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 6: what they've done. 400 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 5: I do think there are pieces along that offensive line 401 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: they Yeah, Ver's taken over, should be excited about. 402 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: We mentioned Tip Man. 403 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: I know you've got a big fan of fashion new 404 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: coming in John Simpsons, the underrated year, Morgan Moses. I 405 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 5: know he's on a one year deal. Tyron Smith's on 406 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: a one year deal, but Morgan Moses has added a 407 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 5: lot in terms of. 408 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: Culture and also just ages wonder. 409 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 5: Yeah right, So, and then on the defensive side, it 410 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: always starts to the medal, right, and Quinn Williams remains 411 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: one of the top defense interior pieces of football. 412 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: You just need you just need somebody next to him, right, 413 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: because you know they've been able to team up on them. 414 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: I think you know, losing als Woods was very underrated 415 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: and what he was able to provide because you need 416 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: somebody no matter what. This game is about big men, 417 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's about and you 418 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: need a big man game. 419 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: You know, you look at you look at Quinn and 420 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Quinn is a big man, but he's not the biggest man. 421 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: Right, you need like for everything that you do have 422 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: about meta BK, it's Travis Jones. Sure that that's the anchor, 423 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: the immovable force that allows you to have to account 424 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: for two people. 425 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: Because football is about. 426 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: Math, right, you know, when you're basically playing in the 427 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: run game, it's ten, it's ten against eleven because the 428 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: quarterback hands off the ball. He's not part Now, some 429 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: teams got running quarterbacks and that's a different story, but 430 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: it's a really eleven against ten. 431 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: So how do you change the math? So if it's 432 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: eleven against. 433 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: Ten, and then I have a guy that's gonna eat 434 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: up two blocks, now it's eleven against Now it's eleven 435 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: against nine. 436 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: So now the math changes. 437 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: So now I can be able to change the math 438 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: to make sure that I can be dominant and make 439 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: a team one dimensional. 440 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: That's what this game is all about. 441 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: We see the two positions in this league that I 442 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: think has been undervalued and I think a lot of 443 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: people missed on was running back in safety. And you're 444 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: starting to see the teams that have the most success 445 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: have dynamic safety play and. 446 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: Dynamic line and dynamic running back play. And they're directly 447 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: correlated with each. 448 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: Other because you talk about a safety that can come 449 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: into the box and make sure that they can play 450 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: the run and the past. 451 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: And that's kind of like that new Chess piece. 452 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: You know, everybody wanted to go and go with these 453 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: light linebackers that can run and play the pass game. Well, 454 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: how does that work when I have a running back 455 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: that's bigger than you and he's leaning on you, we're 456 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: pounding you, and you can't get off the field because 457 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm in second and four, I'm in third and two. 458 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: You know that's that's an advantage. So you look at 459 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: around the league. 460 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: I want to look at everybody around here and all 461 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: the good teams, and I guarantee you they have good 462 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: pair of running backs and. 463 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: They're running the ball at a higher rate than most 464 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: other teams. Yeah, they're gonna have a saying big shift. 465 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: Look at Detroit with Trelry Kirby and bryantch in Philadelphia 466 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: winfield right out there. 467 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 8: Gardner Johnson even say here's the city post Ireek kill 468 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 8: right yet Pataco back. The Buffalo Bills have made it 469 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 8: complete shift after Baltimore Ravens running the football. 470 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 6: But they're still But Buffalo is never stopped building the trenches. 471 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 6: They upgrade the center position, the left guard position. They've 472 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 6: started every game this year. You look at the they 473 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 6: keep drafting defensive linement. They continue to draft, just. 474 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: Trading for Phillips. 475 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: I believe right to trade for Phillips and brought in 476 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: brought in Quentin Jefferson, our old buddy. 477 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. 478 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: Okay, Jet Seahawks this week, ye'ah coming off a buy 479 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: your expectations for the Green and White now that they 480 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: had an opportunity to actually, Jeff Walbrick hasn't been able 481 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: to breathe basically when he's come on to the job 482 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 5: post that game against the Vikings, before the Jets played 483 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: against the Buffo of Bills. 484 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: But now him and his staff is a chance to 485 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: really dive into a self scout. How are they going 486 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: to attack this. 487 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: Now, I mean they had to go back and do 488 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: some self scout and they have to do some tendency 489 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: breakers and stuff like that. That's usually what it is 490 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: is leaning on the analytics and see how other teams 491 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: see you and what your tendencies are, and down in 492 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: distance what your tendencies are. 493 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: Informations personnel, and figure out what do we do well? 494 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: That's what the just needs to do. What do we 495 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: do well? 496 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: What is our bread and butter runs? What are our 497 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: bread and butter past concepts? What's our bread and butter personnel? 498 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: And on the defensive side as well, like whose guys 499 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: that are maybe playing at a higher clip that we 500 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: need to get on the field more. And that's what 501 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: that's what the you know, that's all about, and you 502 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: give them opportunities to prove themselves. 503 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: But the numbers don't lie. 504 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 5: But we spoke a lot about identity. Hear this lean 505 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: into he is the Jets offense? It looks like they 506 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 5: just call plays like nothing. Really, it doesn't look like 507 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 5: something sets something else up. Like if I go to 508 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: these winning teams right now, like Detroit, Philadelphia and some 509 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: of these teams, like I know the foundation is certain 510 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: runs they're gonna They're gonna and you know, as long 511 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: as they were within a certain range score wise, they're 512 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 5: gonna stay with those those that particular program I can't say. 513 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: And then part of it is just the injuries and 514 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: things they've had with the Jets and the turnover. But 515 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I want to find, like see an identity 516 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 5: to this offense, because just in the last two weeks, 517 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: you've seen identity to Seattle's defense, Like you can see 518 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald and how he spot drops and his matchup zones, 519 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: and you can see like they've made changes at linebacker. 520 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: They've made a lot of changes, but you can see 521 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: how they're now fly. If you take a look at 522 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: what Baltimore did a year ago when he was there 523 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 5: and you now watch Seattle, you could see a big 524 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: part of that defense in Baltimore now being played by Seattle. 525 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 5: Is there a lesson here Gino Smith's coming back to 526 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 5: the Jets, Not so much from a Jets perspective, but 527 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 5: just from a we're gonna close here from a young 528 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 5: quarterback developmental. 529 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's yeah, Well, sometimes you just have to 530 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: understand sometimes it takes time. Sometimes, you know, some people 531 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: are a microwave popcorn. Some people are ste or gumbo. 532 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: It takes a little, it takes a little seasoning, It 533 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: takes a little you know, time to let things come together. 534 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: I think not only is you know Geno Smith for 535 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: an example of that, but Sam Donald's an example of 536 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: that in Baker Mayfield is maybe the biggest example of that. 537 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you know, it takes maturity, but it 538 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: all also takes a village and it takes you know, 539 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: it takes people to understand to be patient with some 540 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: of these guys and realize that not all quarterbacks are 541 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: created equal. You have to figure out when they came from, 542 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: what they learn when they're in college, and how much 543 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: experience they had. 544 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 545 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of the young guys coming out 546 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 5: right now, we've seen them not have a lot of 547 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: experience in college and you're betting non talent and they've 548 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: been forced into situation. I'm not talking about the Jets, 549 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: I'm talking about throughout the league. 550 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a Jared Goff. I mean, he was giving up, 551 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 6: you know, he was supposed to be the stopgap guy 552 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 6: in Detroit. 553 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: But the pieces around him. 554 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: Are really good, you know, and the quarterbacks they always 555 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 6: know this. They always know that if the organization has 556 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: their back. Actually it's every position. Every player knows if 557 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 6: the organization really likes them. And it's not just the contract. 558 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: You give somebody a big fat contract and you know 559 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 6: that the organization they just did it, but they don't 560 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: really believe in it. I believe that Tampa believes in Baker. 561 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 6: I believe that Minnesota right now they drafted a quarterback 562 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: McCarthy to be the guy, and Sam Donold just keeps 563 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 6: delivering and he understands the system and the court. The 564 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 6: coach is very, very creative, and they change things up 565 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: quite a bit. There's stability in the building for these 566 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 6: guys to succeed. 567 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 5: Stability with you guys, remember rate reviews, Yes, scribe on 568 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: YouTube that to it all and wherever you're getting your 569 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: podcast