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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grielou, Paul Calvis and two time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 4: Funny how things change and sometimes drastically, following the scouting combine.

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Speaker 4: Draft prospects move up move down because of what they

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Speaker 4: did or didn't do while in Indianapolis. And really so

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Speaker 4: all you're really doing is medical checks. That's important, Interviews

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Speaker 4: that's also important, and then whether you choose to do

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Speaker 4: the on field drills right, not in helmets, not in

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Speaker 4: shoulder pads, running in T shirts and shorts with no

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Speaker 4: one chasing you, whether an offensive player or a defensive player,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, hey, let's drop this guy

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, you are. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: another evaluation opportunity for teams to see what guys look

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Speaker 3: like next to one another, right, and you know, there's

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Speaker 3: all about your perspective as far as whether or not

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Speaker 3: you like this, and right, it's really cool for the fans.

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Speaker 3: If you're actually a player that has to go through

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Speaker 3: what it sucks the whole thing that's set up. But

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Speaker 3: it's set up to stress you out right, the whole

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Speaker 3: ordeal from when you get there, going through all the

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Speaker 3: medical and then having to run, you know, being standing

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Speaker 3: up in front of people as they take notes about

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Speaker 3: how you look, right, all those little things, you know,

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Speaker 3: huge impact on whether I get drafted over another guy.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, at this point, I don't really

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Speaker 3: passed along. But I know teams don't trust other doctors.

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Speaker 3: They want us have their doctors look at them. But

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Speaker 3: then the interview process, Right, what is a guy made of?

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Speaker 3: You know, and you only have a short period of

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: How do they do game checks?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: What are some of the things that they had in

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Speaker 3: the pass and did they learn from it? Right? All

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Speaker 3: these little things that kind of tell you, Okay, is

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Speaker 3: he a good football player? I think all those things

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Speaker 3: the ability to to have to go to the combine

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Speaker 6: You know, Craig is someone who just spent a week

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Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback? Who was the quarterback that was behind me?

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Speaker 3: And jumps to the Testah, no one? Who was number

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Speaker 6: I had it down here somewhere in my house.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see how good they were.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter that I've never I've never even heard

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Speaker 6: I mean he tested through the roof, you know what

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Speaker 3: So boom, you.

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Speaker 4: Got to go back and you got to recheck the

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Speaker 6: Bring it, bring it, Craig. Yes. In fact, I'm just

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Speaker 6: gonna cut right to the chase right now. The Lorenze

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Speaker 3: Well, I got a lot of things going on outside

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Speaker 3: I got a field to practice at tonight, all these

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: go for the juggular right now. Is there a reason

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Speaker 6: why if Sonny Styles isn't the if he's the next

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Speaker 6: Fred Warner, if he's the next Luke Keikley, why not

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Speaker 6: take him at number three? Why not take a middle

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Speaker 3: Overall, what Jordan Loves being compared to Christian McCaffrey. Do

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Speaker 3: Jared? What I Love? I mean Jeremiah Love. I'm sorry?

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Speaker 3: What so what? And that'd be good for Chris?

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Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love, it's six foot two, fourteen ran a four

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Speaker 6: If they're thinking that sort of game changing running back.

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Speaker 6: Could someone maybe make an offer to the Cardinals at

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Speaker 3: I mean they could. I think it comes down to

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Speaker 3: is that a game change? Does that indicate wins and losses?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know as much. And that's a position that

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Speaker 6: Can I just say this did the Cardinals win a

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Speaker 6: they lost nine in a row.

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Speaker 3: Correct, and he's coming back. I mean, you can add

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Speaker 3: just I'm still stuck on offensive line, the engine of

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Speaker 3: I think that's where they're missing the most pieces at

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Speaker 3: That's where everything is going to flow in terms of

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Speaker 3: of the same next year because of the lack of talent.

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Speaker 3: They are collective.

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Speaker 4: Always comes back to the line of scrimmage, whether offensive

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Speaker 4: line coming up next in our next segment here on

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals Red Sea Report. But you know, Zoe, if

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Speaker 4: you ask our executive producer, jim On Mahundro, is going

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Speaker 4: to find the answer. Michael Vick in two thousand and

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Speaker 4: one ran a four three three forty Taylor Green a

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Speaker 3: It was Vic but this but VIC film spoke for itself. True.

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Speaker 6: A guy who ran a four to three five. I

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Speaker 3: And I remember when I was coming out, there was

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Speaker 3: but ran like four or three something. But because everything else,

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Speaker 3: the tape wasn't there, right, the character piece wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: All those other things kind of phased out. So the athleticism,

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Speaker 3: it says, ooh, this dude is an athlete, but can

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Speaker 4: It is just parts of what teams look to accomplish

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Speaker 4: at the scouting combine. Talking about the on field product.

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Speaker 4: Michae Laflor, making his first trip to the Scouting Combine

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Speaker 4: in a long time, first as a head coach, what

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Speaker 7: From a coaching perspective, you got MANI and their team

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Speaker 7: that have been foulowing these guys for months, years if not,

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Speaker 7: you know. And so from a coaching perspective, you get

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Speaker 7: done with the season, particularly in your first year, you

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Speaker 7: start to learn your own players, free agents, and so

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Speaker 7: this is your kind of your your first little show

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Speaker 7: these guys, you know, and you only get twenty minutes,

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Speaker 7: and not a lot can get done in twenty minutes,

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Speaker 7: but those first impressions are a big deal. You still

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Speaker 7: want to always lean on the tape and stuff like that,

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Speaker 7: but it does give you a little, you know, insight

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Speaker 4: By the way, you can check out Danny's full interview

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Speaker 4: not only with Michae Laford, but gentle manager Moni Austin

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Speaker 4: Ford on the official Arizona Cardinals YouTube channel that is

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Speaker 4: YouTube dot com. Forward slash a Zy Cardinals. Speaking of

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Speaker 4: Mani part of that sit down with Danny, he was

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Speaker 4: asked once again having a top five pick this year third.

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Speaker 8: Overall, picking number three, it's a blessing and a curse.

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Speaker 6: Logan Thomas, that was the guy the Cardinals tooking round

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, now, low transition. And the

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Speaker 3: well because the film you see him throw. He's fast,

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Speaker 3: But are you a football player? Can you see the game?

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Speaker 3: Can you make the plays? Because that speeds your football?

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Speaker 3: We always talk about game speed or am I a

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Speaker 6: It's after you've cleared the defense.

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Speaker 4: My guess is, Paul, you'll have some kind of take. Again,

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Speaker 6: With a third overall pick, safety to the Cardinals, A

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Speaker 6: it's happening, yep.

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Speaker 4: What is happening next here in the Cardinals Red SI

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Speaker 3: Rip the six pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft,

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson, junior Ohio.

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Speaker 8: State High high football character, highly intelligent, well broken, mature, dependable,

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Speaker 4: General manager Money Austin Ford, talking about his first selection

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Speaker 4: They thought that highly of him. And obviously, now at

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Speaker 6: And of course it brings up the question we just

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Speaker 6: you get another first round pick. If it wasn't for

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Speaker 3: But we get it.

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Speaker 6: Could there be a similar haul in the works at

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Speaker 3: And that's and that's what the combine should be about. Right,

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Speaker 3: And that's the way I like it, because that's those

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: Those are the things that as a football player, a

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: down in and down out. And he must be doing

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Speaker 3: that or we wouldn't be talking about drafting him this high.

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Speaker 3: So that is how I'm looking at it and processing

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Speaker 3: it versus. Okay, the lower is thirty three and thirty two.

442
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Speaker 3: Maybe on average, most guys who have thirty two inch

443
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Speaker 3: arms aren't winning, but Fanos figured out a way to

444
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Speaker 3: do it and win at a high level.

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Speaker 4: That is one name. The other name is Francis Maluinoa

446
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Speaker 4: out of Miami six five and a half three twenty nine,

447
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Speaker 4: someone that while we were in Indianapolis, Danny and myself

448
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Speaker 4: on Cardinals Cover two had a chance to speak to

449
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Speaker 4: Field Gates from ESPN very high on the offensive tackle

450
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Speaker 4: out of Miami.

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Speaker 5: I always like guys that have played a lot of ball.

452
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Speaker 5: It just gives you more confidence in what you're seeing.

453
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Speaker 5: You know that that's kind of the baseline to expect

454
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Speaker 5: from him at the next level. A career right tackle

455
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Speaker 5: at Miami I was excellent this past year. They played

456
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Speaker 5: a ton of games, obviously against good competition in the playoffs,

457
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Speaker 5: and he held his own just two sacks allowed this

458
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Speaker 5: past season. If you care about things like pressure rate,

459
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Speaker 5: he was tied with Spencer Fano from Utah for the

460
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Speaker 5: lowest pressure rate allowed amongst tackles in this year's class.

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Speaker 5: Seas He's a bigger, thicker guy, might not have these

462
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Speaker 5: thirty four to thirty five inch arms, but I think

463
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Speaker 5: probably above the thirty thirty three inch threshold, which a

464
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Speaker 5: lot of people look towards as kind of a minimum

465
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Speaker 5: threshold at that offensive tackle spot. So he's very consistent player,

466
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Speaker 5: good run game temperaments, really solid and pass protection. Spencer

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Speaker 5: Fano from Utah one of two Utah offensive tackles that

468
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Speaker 5: will go high in this year's draft class. A little

469
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Speaker 5: bit leaner, he was listed on Utah's roster at three

470
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Speaker 5: hundred and two pounds. A guy who's played left tackle

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Speaker 5: previously as well, very athletic. If Mike Lafleur brings a

472
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Speaker 5: scheme that's more like the recent Rams, it would be

473
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Speaker 5: more of what we call it a power gap scheme,

474
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Speaker 5: where you bigger offensive lineman can kind of rule the day.

475
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Speaker 5: If he goes back to where he kind of grew

476
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Speaker 5: up in where that Kyle or that Mike Shanahan scheme

477
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Speaker 5: of big athletic offensive lineman, maybe somebody like Spencer Fano

478
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Speaker 5: would fit at number three. But regardless of who it is,

479
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Speaker 5: they got to clean things up. You guys might have

480
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Speaker 5: the number off hand. I want to say it was

481
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Speaker 5: like forty five sacks taken by Jacoby last year, and

482
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Speaker 5: I could be off by ten on that one, so

483
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Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't even bother throwing a number. But obviously,

484
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Speaker 5: you know Jacoby is a bigger but more methodical athlete

485
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Speaker 5: than the pocket and whoever is under center, just urgency

486
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Speaker 5: and keeping that quarter of are gonna be two priorities.

487
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Speaker 4: Your thoughts on Mike laflor now as a head coach,

488
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Speaker 4: didn't call plays, but has play call and experience, and

489
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Speaker 4: now in charge of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited for Mike and a guy who has been

491
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Speaker 5: around a ton of success in the NFL, A guy

492
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Speaker 5: that I've known for a long time and just think

493
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Speaker 5: just a rock solid individual as well.

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Speaker 3: And it seems like and it's.

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Speaker 5: Thoroughly and maybe this is what you expect when you're

496
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Speaker 5: only a few press conferences in for a new head coach,

497
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Speaker 5: but it seems like there's a shared vision between him

498
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Speaker 5: and Monte Austin Ford's. And I've always felt like where

499
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Speaker 5: a marriage worked at its best is when you've got

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Speaker 5: people that share a vision, and it seems like the

501
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Speaker 5: vision is shared here, and I felt like there's a

502
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Speaker 5: good talent on this roster that can be maximized even further.

503
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Speaker 5: And I don't want to ignore defense by any stretch,

504
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Speaker 5: but I do think, you know, the path that has

505
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Speaker 5: the largest sample size of getting a team back on

506
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Speaker 5: track and consistently winning is quarterbacks ability and maximizing that

507
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Speaker 5: side of the ball. So I think a chance for

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals with Mike Lafloor and his background and expertise

509
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Speaker 5: to kind of get the offense to where it needs

510
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Speaker 5: to be to compete in a division that no mystery,

511
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Speaker 5: it's the you know, the best division.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Field.

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Speaker 11: Do you talk a lot of fantasy football during the season.

515
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Speaker 11: Was there a player more so than Michael Wilson. Where

516
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Speaker 11: it might have been a sleeper pick at the beginning

517
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Speaker 11: of the season, by the time it ended, nobody was

518
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Speaker 11: giving more points on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm having another child this summer, and my wife

520
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Speaker 5: she's so far as rebuff this offer, but currently thinking

521
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Speaker 5: it's it's a girl, and we're thinking Michael Wilson Yates

522
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Speaker 5: would work. My wife has again she's she's not happy

523
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Speaker 5: about such suggestions. She's more focused on conventional names than

524
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Speaker 5: Michael Wilson for a young girl. Might be a tough

525
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Speaker 5: adjustment for her. But Michael was unbelievable this past year.

526
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Speaker 5: I just like every week I'd just be like, it's

527
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Speaker 5: literally jaw dropping. I mean that you'd you'd find like

528
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Speaker 5: these multi game sample sized stats where it's like the

529
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Speaker 5: following players have done this this season, and it was

530
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Speaker 5: like Pokinakuba and Michael Wilson, Jamar Chase and Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigma and Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 6: He was awesome. Uh, he's an unbelievable kid, young man.

533
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Speaker 5: I should say kid anymore. I remember coming him coming

534
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Speaker 5: out of the draft just so cool to see him

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Speaker 5: get opportunities and thrive.

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Speaker 4: A lot of offensive talk there and as a defensive player,

537
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Speaker 4: so you've kind of leaned a little bit more towards

538
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Speaker 4: that side of the ball when it comes to that

539
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Speaker 4: third overall pick and you hear Field Yates discuss Michae

540
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Speaker 4: Laflor and where he's been, whether that you was Shanahan

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Speaker 4: or McVeagh. That also plays a factor in what kind

542
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Speaker 4: of an offensive lineman you're looking for. What sure are

543
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Speaker 4: they used to playing as far as technique, scheming goes

544
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Speaker 4: to the defensive side of the ball as well. When

545
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Speaker 4: you have that offensive or defensive minded head coach, they

546
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Speaker 4: have a input as well. I see that player as

547
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Speaker 4: a better fit as opposed to this one over.

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Speaker 3: Here, right, And you got to look at that, you know,

549
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Speaker 3: and a guy may be leaner because when you're going

550
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Speaker 3: getting ready for the combine, when you go to places

551
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Speaker 3: like Exos and similar places like that around the country, Man,

552
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Speaker 3: these guys are on regimens, eating nice, eating clean, right,

553
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Speaker 3: They're trying to shape their bodies. So when they stamp

554
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Speaker 3: in front of you know, these scouts, they look cut

555
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Speaker 3: up in lines all over the place. But I guarantee you,

556
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Speaker 3: he's gonna put his weight back on as he continues

557
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Speaker 3: to develop and grow as a young man as well.

558
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Speaker 3: And so again it's going back to the film. Can

559
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Speaker 3: I see him be able to move guys off of

560
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage? Is he a physical player? And

561
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Speaker 3: when I say move guys, you just got to cover

562
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Speaker 3: guys up and move them. You know, we're talking about

563
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Speaker 3: a foot to two foot to two feet to allow

564
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Speaker 3: the running back to find holes in that guard that

565
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Speaker 3: you may be working with in a double team or

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Speaker 3: tight end to be able to then climb to the

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Speaker 3: next level. And obviously the zone scheme is a lot

568
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Speaker 3: easier because that's just allowing the running back to figure

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Speaker 3: out where the defensive linement aren't going and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go go opposite. So if you can see that, which

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Speaker 3: I think you know watching the film, you'll be able

572
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Speaker 3: to really determine very easily whether or not a guy

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Speaker 3: is going to be able to have the gap scheme

574
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Speaker 3: is what he was talking about there. Your traditional power

575
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Speaker 3: runs more downhill at you and trying to knock guys

576
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Speaker 3: off the ball versus more of a fluidity when we

577
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Speaker 3: talk about the zone. But all that they've seen they've identified.

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Speaker 3: And I can tell you this, most coaches think they

579
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Speaker 3: can coach guys too. So if he has the size

580
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Speaker 3: and the tools, I can show him and then guys

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Speaker 3: around him can help him develop into more of a

582
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Speaker 3: power blocker if that's what's needed to call for.

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Speaker 6: Look full disclosure of Paul pencil Neck has never played

584
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Speaker 6: offensive line. But I'll say this much on Francis Mauinoa.

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Speaker 6: When he there was an interview where one of his

586
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Speaker 6: coaches said he weighed more than three point forty and

587
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Speaker 6: his body fat percentage was less than twenty percent. He

588
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Speaker 6: also spent the last two years in practice going against

589
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Speaker 6: Reuben Bain Junior and the other edge rusher, Mesidor. So

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Speaker 6: there's a lot to like with Mauinoa, both the measurables

591
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Speaker 6: and also the experience and the competition and the whole

592
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Speaker 6: iron sharpens iron. Remember, no team attempted more passes last

593
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Speaker 6: year than the Arizona Cardinals. No one had fewer rushing

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Speaker 6: attempts than the Arizona Cardinals. They got to start running

595
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Speaker 6: the ball. Who has the best run blocking tape in

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Speaker 6: addition to pass protecting off the edge.

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Speaker 4: And keep this in mind as well, something we'll touch

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Speaker 4: on coming up next when we talk about free agency

599
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Speaker 4: on offense, Joan Williams, Kelvin Beacham, Will Hernandez all free

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Speaker 4: agents to beat. So we get more into that next

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Speaker 4: here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: What a throw by percent and the Cardinals in business.

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Speaker 10: You cannot say enough about Jacoby present.

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Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett again on time, on target. The quarterback has

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Speaker 2: the confidence of his teammates and coaching staff. Jacoby Brissette

606
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Speaker 2: has played terrific football.

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Speaker 6: Jacoby Pressett.

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Speaker 9: What a dime.

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Speaker 2: How about Jacoby Brissette again lading the Cardinals down for

610
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Speaker 2: a go ahead touchdown. What a throw again by Brissett

611
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Speaker 2: and they convert third and long once again.

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Speaker 10: Jacoby Rosette is slinging it right now. He comes out

613
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Speaker 10: firing every ball on time.

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Speaker 2: On target for sett takes the Cardinals down the field

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Speaker 2: and they retake the lead.

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Speaker 10: You can't say enough about Jacoby Presett and what he's

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Speaker 10: been able to do today.

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Speaker 4: Certainly produced didn't win a lot talking about Jacoby Brissette.

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Speaker 4: As we say, welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red

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Speaker 4: Sea report. Craig Reio, Lupul Calvic and Lorenzo Alexander. As

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Speaker 4: we are a little over a week away, a week

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Speaker 4: from Wednesday, the new league year begins. That means free

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Speaker 4: agency officially begins. Now there'll be a forty eight hour

624
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Speaker 4: period that starts on Monday, the legal tampering period or

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Speaker 4: when you can negotiate with free agents. To be Jacoby

626
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 4: is not a free agent, Paul, though. The question is

627
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Speaker 4: when you talk about free agent needs at the offensive

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Speaker 4: side of the ball touch defense here momentarily we know

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Speaker 4: that quarterback potentially could be one of those positions I

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Speaker 4: already mentioned. Offensive line certainly way to upgrade this offense

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Speaker 4: when you're looking at a better run game, a more

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Speaker 4: efficient passing game. But first things first, what do you

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Speaker 4: do at the quarterback position?

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Speaker 6: And if you're going to draft a guy, whether it's

635
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Speaker 6: trading back into the back end to round one and

636
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Speaker 6: maybe targeting a Tye Simpson, which seems to be getting

637
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Speaker 6: some speculation slash traction right now, or it's going for

638
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Speaker 6: someone else maybe on Day two, a Carson Beck, you know,

639
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Speaker 6: Ni Smeier, something like that. Guess what, Jacoby Brissett is

640
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Speaker 6: an excellent mentor, and I think the whole second season

641
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Speaker 6: from Drake May is evidence of that Jacoby Brissett started

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Speaker 6: the first five or six games of Drake May's rookie year,

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Speaker 6: and then Drake May took over and he was pretty good,

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Speaker 6: and then he really bossom obviously led the NFL and

645
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Speaker 6: completion percentage of vote away from being your NFL MVP,

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Speaker 6: and he credited Jacoby Brissett. So, Jacoby Brissett going into

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Speaker 6: year two of a two year deal, whether he's your

648
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Speaker 6: starter to begin the year and he gives way to

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Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback, or you're developing someone you maybe you

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Speaker 6: take on day three. Either scenario, I think it's a

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Speaker 6: pretty good fit going forward. We don't know how many

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Speaker 6: starts Jacoby Brissett will get, but we can say this much.

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Speaker 6: You'll be very beneficial for a young QB if they

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Speaker 6: bring one into that room.

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Speaker 4: And then, regardless of who the quarterback is, though, you're

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Speaker 4: looking at your skilled position players. Okay, you've got your

657
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Speaker 4: tied end and Trey McBride, you've got Michael Wilson, you've

658
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Speaker 4: got Marvin Harrison junior. We'll see what happens at the

659
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Speaker 4: running back position as well, with James Connor and Trean

660
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Speaker 4: Benson coming off of injuries. If you're going to upgrade

661
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Speaker 4: along that side of the ball. It does seem to

662
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Speaker 4: make sense to target offensive line considering where you're at

663
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Speaker 4: at those positions where you know you've got Paris on

664
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Speaker 4: one side, yelled to for Holt very good at center.

665
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Speaker 4: Isaiah Adams is he ready to make that step again

666
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Speaker 4: after losing his job and then playing well towards the

667
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Speaker 4: end of last season. So I think I have more

668
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Speaker 4: questions at least going into free agency at offensive line

669
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Speaker 4: than any other spot.

670
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with that as well. But

671
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: you still want to continue to build out depth, right

672
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: because that you know, with this team in the past

673
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: has always been injuries, and so we don't know if

674
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Speaker 3: that's just going to stay at the offensive line and

675
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Speaker 3: the defensive side the ball, will it starts migrating to

676
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Speaker 3: other places. And so as a GM, you're always trying

677
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Speaker 3: to bring in the best and most talent as possible

678
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Speaker 3: and free agency, and it doesn't always have to be,

679
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Speaker 3: you know, the top tier guy that's going to be

680
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: that first priority free agent. You can find guys, depth guys,

681
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: glue guys on that next level to fill the back

682
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Speaker 3: end of your roster that's going to push the guys

683
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Speaker 3: in front of them as well. And that's the mindset

684
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Speaker 3: that I like, you know, especially when you have a

685
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Speaker 3: team that's trying to figure out who they are initially

686
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: right and and it just gives you a little bit

687
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: more flexibility as far as bringing in more guys to

688
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Speaker 3: see who can hit on that second tier. And of course,

689
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Speaker 3: if you can find a big time guard that's a

690
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: free agent, I think that's gonna also help as well,

691
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Speaker 3: because then that kind of limits the amount of maybe

692
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Speaker 3: draft capital that you have, or maybe you can draft,

693
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Speaker 3: you know, change how you approach the draft. You can

694
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Speaker 3: find somebody at guard in free agency to come in

695
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Speaker 3: and help you as well. So that's where I like

696
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Speaker 3: at I think all the priority needs to be at

697
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Speaker 3: the offensive line and really solidifying that group and maximizing

698
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Speaker 3: that group as best as possible from the top all

699
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Speaker 3: the way down, because as we see, it's really hard

700
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Speaker 3: to stay healthy for for seventeen weeks.

701
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Speaker 6: Craig, I don't know if you're aware you were at

702
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Speaker 6: the combine. Are you aware of the offensive line group

703
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 6: set a record for average forty times and vertical jumps

704
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Speaker 6: despite being the tallest and heaviest group on record. So translation,

705
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: the old line group was the tallest, heaviest, fastest, and

706
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Speaker 6: highest jumping group ever at the combine of offensive linemen.

707
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Speaker 6: So boom, Maybe this is the year to clean up.

708
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Speaker 6: Can they play football?

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Speaker 3: You got a lot of hoopers out there and away

710
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: let me eat heavy. Yeah, I got Hooper's mentality.

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Speaker 4: General managers always want to build through the draft, not

712
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Speaker 4: free agency. Charles Davis NFL Network joined Danny and myself

713
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: last week in Indianapolis on Cardinals Cover two and talked

714
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Speaker 4: about how difficult it can be when you target free

715
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Speaker 4: agency to build a team.

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Speaker 9: The hit rate that New England had last year in

717
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Speaker 9: free agency is not normal. Free agency is a tough,

718
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Speaker 9: tough deal because oftentimes, as we know, you're not letting

719
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Speaker 9: good players out of the buildings somehow, right, So those

720
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Speaker 9: who become free agents are they bringing something with them?

721
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Speaker 9: Is it injury?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

723
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Speaker 5: This?

724
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Speaker 8: Is it that?

725
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Speaker 9: But if you're the Cardinals, you are in a position

726
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Speaker 9: right now that to me, everywhere you look is that possibility?

727
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Speaker 9: Who do you have highly rated? Do they fit what

728
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 9: you're looking for? Is that a person you're thinking you

729
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 9: wanted to be a Cardinal? Go get them and keep building.

730
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Speaker 4: And then you got the factor in a brand new

731
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Speaker 4: head coach, new coaching staff. What does Mike Lafleura want

732
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Speaker 4: as far as players in the building. Part of his

733
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Speaker 4: sit down with Danny Surrek in Indianapolis, Lafleur talking about, well, first,

734
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Speaker 4: I gotta get to know the guys already on the roster.

735
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Speaker 7: Everything's been just a great collaboration and communication, you know,

736
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Speaker 7: and that's what money's wanted. So that's been awesome. But

737
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Speaker 7: it's not just Moni and I. It's just it's not

738
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Speaker 7: just Moni and the team and I. I mean, you know,

739
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Speaker 7: we had all the physician coaches on the offensive side

740
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Speaker 7: in last week talking about kind of how they saw people,

741
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Speaker 7: how they saw people on our team. Because again, everyone's

742
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 7: trying to get to know each other. You know, we

743
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 7: just got our staff in, you know, finishing it up

744
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Speaker 7: last week. So a lot has to get done between

745
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Speaker 7: now and March eleventh.

746
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Speaker 3: From that free agency starts.

747
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Speaker 4: You can spend a lot in free agency, doesn't mean

748
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Speaker 4: you're going to win a lot. Although what Charles Davis mentioned, yes,

749
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: the Patriots spent the most money in free agency last

750
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Speaker 4: offseason advanced to the Super Bowl. There's others examples last

751
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Speaker 4: season years past, where if you spend a ton of money,

752
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Speaker 4: it's not going to equal the win total because what

753
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: happens between March and April. Things tend to as Nick

754
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Speaker 4: Rulis likes to say, guys lose a shoe and all

755
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 4: of a sudden, that depth you might have had doesn't

756
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Speaker 4: materialize once you get to the regular season.

757
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think sometimes, you know, I think the

758
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: biggest thing is that you can you end up paying

759
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Speaker 3: way more in free agency right the draft. I think

760
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Speaker 3: the hit rate is probably probably very similar, right because

761
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Speaker 3: it's hard to find play. It was easy to build

762
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 3: through the draft. Everybody would be good every single year, right.

763
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Speaker 3: The difference is the amount of money. And INVA, that's

764
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Speaker 3: when I gotta give guys, right, draft now rookie E

765
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: salary cap, Right, it's a fixed number. It's not these

766
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Speaker 3: big numbers like we used to see back in the day.

767
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Speaker 3: But you have to pay someone that's been in the

768
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Speaker 3: league a certain premium based on what they've done. And

769
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Speaker 3: so I think that's probably where GM's probably feel a

770
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Speaker 3: little bit more if a guy doesn't work out, because

771
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Speaker 3: now you have all this money invested in someone that

772
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Speaker 3: didn't flip the bill. Essentially, as far as their production.

773
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Speaker 3: I also think sometimes people get caught up with names

774
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Speaker 3: or the flashiness of guys. Oh I've seen him play,

775
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: but don't really know who they are as far as

776
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: the work ethic, and they don't necessarily maybe do the

777
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: same due diligence as they do with all these draft

778
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: guys coming out. It's a whole you know, off season,

779
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Speaker 3: and we have a TV show about it and people

780
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: are really diving in and so you know, I and

781
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: probably each team does a little bit differently, has a

782
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: better advanced out and pro scouting department that really understands guys.

783
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Is this guy a football player? Can he transition over?

784
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: Because at one point in time, and I just go

785
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: off my crewer I was I was a free agent,

786
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: right and I came here, people say, well, you didn't

787
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: work out. I got hurt, right, So there's also that

788
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: aspect of it as well. Does a guy get hurt

789
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Speaker 3: because then I went to Buffalo and shine right later

790
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: in my career. So I think there's a lot of

791
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: moving parts that go into it. And I think that

792
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: applies whether it's the draft or free agency. But as

793
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Speaker 3: long as teams are doing their due diligence, their hit

794
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: rate will be a lot higher. And I think, you know,

795
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: the Patriots do a really good job of evaluating talent

796
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: and the type of guy. I think Sean mcdermody is

797
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: really good too. In Buffalo used to bring in maybe

798
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Speaker 3: a step down as far as talent, but the dude

799
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Speaker 3: that person wants to professionally was was like grade A

800
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: blue chip level. And those guys typically maybe they don't

801
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: become all pro, but they're going to be great glue guys,

802
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: cultural guys that you can actually win a lot of

803
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: football games with.

804
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Speaker 6: You know, free agents typically are plug and play right,

805
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 6: they're proven, But you can get a guy like Paris

806
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 6: Johnson Junior and he'll start every single game at right

807
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 6: tackle his rookie year. Even the great Tray McBride was

808
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 6: underwhelming his rookie year. Never quite sure with the rookies

809
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: out of the draft year one, whereas free agency got

810
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 6: to be able to count on him.

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Speaker 4: That's offensive free agency. How about we talk defensive free agency?

812
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Speaker 4: Next here on the Arizona cardin Oles Radio.

813
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Speaker 2: Network, Young restep drop steps up and it's sacked. It's

814
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Speaker 2: Kalayis Campbell.

815
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Speaker 10: Welcome back, Kalais Campbell, the old Man.

816
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 11: Gets the sack.

817
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Pressure in Young's face, He's head, hey sack. It's Kalaias

818
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: Campbell who ends the game. In his first game back

819
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: at State Barm Stadium, wearing all red, Kalaias the hero

820
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: tackled for a loss by guess who Kalaias Campbell.

821
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Speaker 10: Kalais Campbell's playing at an unreal level. I cannot state

822
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 10: that enough.

823
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Speaker 2: The oldest player on the field continues to be the

824
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Speaker 2: best player on the field.

825
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 6: What it matters most.

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Speaker 10: When you need a big play, Who's gonna make it

827
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Speaker 10: for you?

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Speaker 5: On this defense?

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Speaker 10: It's Kalais Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Every single time Prescott drops back to pass in trouble.

831
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Speaker 2: Sacked again Kalaeis Campbell.

832
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Speaker 10: Unbelievable job by Kalais Campbell.

833
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: Burrow drops back, steps up, hitting sack back at the

834
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Speaker 2: thirty yard line and it's Kaleis Campbell with the takedown

835
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Speaker 2: and then the celebratory jump shot.

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Speaker 10: Guess what, the ageless wonder Kalais Campbell gets the big sack.

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Speaker 4: So I think we can all agree Kalais Campbell was

838
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Speaker 4: a hit in free agency a year ago. Cardinals bring

839
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Speaker 4: Kaleis back for year eighteen. Question is will there be

840
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Speaker 4: a year nineteen. Poor Kalais Campbell. Hey, the man can

841
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 4: still play. It's just a question of does he want to?

842
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: And then where I'm sure the Cardinals would love to

843
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: have Kalais back, as we say, welcome back to the

844
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Seer Report here shifting our attention to the

845
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Speaker 4: defense when it comes to free agency. One week from tomorrow,

846
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Speaker 4: the new league year begins, before we get Paul and

847
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: those thoughts on defense and free agency. Here is Manty

848
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: Austin Ford's thoughts on how he approaches free agency.

849
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Speaker 8: It's a finite group of players in free agency. The

850
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 8: only players that are available are the ones that are

851
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Speaker 8: free agents, obviously, and so there's a market that goes

852
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Speaker 8: along with that. I don't think that's ever a situation

853
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 8: free agency where you want to rely on that to

854
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 8: build your roster. It's really more of a supplement, you know,

855
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 8: And really those two are kind of independent. What's available

856
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 8: at the pick number three. I mean, who knows if

857
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Speaker 8: we're even going to be picking at number three. We

858
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 8: got a long time to go between now and then.

859
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Speaker 8: But you know, we're going to continue to build the

860
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 8: roster as we see fit, and free agency will be

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Speaker 8: a part of that.

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Speaker 4: By the way, that was money last week at the

863
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Speaker 4: scouting combine. You look at the free agents for the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals going into this offseason. Yes, Khaliss is.

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Speaker 3: One, LJ.

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Speaker 4: Collier is another. On that defensive line. Jalen Thompson is

867
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Speaker 4: a big name in the secondary. Is there another season

868
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: in Arizona for j T? And then it's going back

869
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Speaker 4: to what we talked about those players you've already selected.

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Speaker 4: So a number of Moni's twenty eight draft picks over

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Speaker 4: his time as general manager have come on the defensive

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Speaker 4: side of the Are those players ready to take the

873
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Speaker 4: next step or to use Mandi's word, do you have

874
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Speaker 4: to supplement some of those positions, whether that's d line,

875
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Speaker 4: linebacker or on the secondary.

876
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is just

877
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Speaker 3: getting healthy up front. And to your point of being

878
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: of Klais being a free agent success for him to

879
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: come back, those guys have to be healthy, like just

880
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: for class. We saw it like Wayne as it went along,

881
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: and so hopefully those guys are either here somewhere right

882
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: now getting healthy. When we talk about Walter Nolan right

883
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: in d Rob in terms of how can I build

884
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: my body sustained training camp preseason and then in the

885
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: entire season, because I think that's where the crux of

886
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: everything is gonna happen in terms of Okay, right, Josh Wett,

887
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: you know what he did outside, I thought he was

888
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: really good. But if you have those two interior, his

889
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: numbers get better. Can you find another guy? Maybe in

890
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: free agency? I don't think you need to go out

891
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: and pay somebody. On the other end, I think they

892
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: have enough there to get something done with guys on

893
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: this roster or maybe sign someone back. And then on

894
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: the outside, you know, you already got will Johnson, Garrett Williams,

895
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 3: guys that I really like, and the way they've played

896
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: just continued. Got that another year. So the defense, in

897
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: my opinion, for the most part, maybe on the back end,

898
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: you know, when you think about safety, maybe trying to

899
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: find an additional guy because they do lose Jalen Thompson.

900
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: I know Rabbit is gonna step up and take advantage

901
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: of this opportunity to potentially maybe start. But just again

902
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: the way they like to play back there, right, because

903
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: Nick Rollas is back, they did love that like dime

904
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: or three safety look, and so do we try to

905
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: get Jalen back? Do we try to bring someone else

906
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: in on the defensive side, it's going to be I

907
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: think a less sex year. Like free agency is going

908
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: to be like a guy, okay, that's a good football

909
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: player type pick, not like, ooh, this dude's gonna come

910
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: in and have five picks or you know, fifteen sacks.

911
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: It's gonna be that. I think that tier two guy

912
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: that comes in and really solidifies and elevates this defense

913
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: much like a Mac Wilson did when he came in.

914
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: A guy like that, and I think that in that

915
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: pedigree of player could really help this team.

916
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: Remember Mac Wilson Senior came out off the edge a

917
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: lot of his first year. You know, they really liked

918
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 6: his pass rushing film. That was a great finding free agency.

919
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 6: You know, they someone who's a little undervalued, played a

920
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 6: lot of special teams and started the last six games

921
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 6: of his final year of the Patriots, and the Cardinals

922
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: swooped in based on that film and said, you know what,

923
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 6: this guy is capable of more. And sure enough, that's

924
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 6: been a home run free agent, you know signing. So

925
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 6: what is the status of Darius Robinson Walter Nolan? Is

926
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 6: he gonna have more of a regular offseason, you hope

927
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 6: is he going to be ready to go a week one?

928
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: And Okay, Dalvin Tomlinson, is he in the cross hairs

929
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 6: of potentially being a cap casualty. I think that's something

930
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 6: to monitor as well. Then at Jalen Thompson isn't back.

931
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 6: Can you get a veteran safety to go with Buddha

932
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 6: and Rabbit? You know a lot of times, you know,

933
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: you get out of the first week or two of

934
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 6: free agency and there are really talented safeties who are

935
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 6: still left out there on the open market. I could

936
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 6: see that being a possibility. Now you're loaded with young corners.

937
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 6: I think you're going to really try and go from within.

938
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 6: Get those guys healthy, let them compete in camp. You

939
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: got at least four nice budding young corners. So but

940
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 6: once again, you get down to pass rusher, that's number

941
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 6: three overall. Okay, to Zoe's point, now you're just sort

942
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 6: of some depth, some depth pieces up front, and then

943
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 6: you focus on the offensive line and you.

944
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Speaker 4: Select an edge rusher in the draft, whether that's in

945
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: the first round or second round, to pair with the

946
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 4: Josh wet as opposed to paying big money for that position,

947
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Speaker 4: as the Cardinals did a year ago with Josh, and

948
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of resources i e. Dollars tied

949
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 4: to defense over the past several years. So have work

950
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Josh Wett has, Justin Jones blaw Nichols didn't. So not

951
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: that your gun shy looking at how to supplement that

952
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: defensive side, But is it now time to focus a

953
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: little bit more if you're going to spend dollars to

954
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: look at the offensive side again going back to having

955
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Speaker 4: an offensive minded head coach.

956
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Speaker 3: I don't know what side, but I had a thought

957
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: while you were talking about moving guys around, right, and

958
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: Paul mintioned is early who did you talk about draft

959
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: with it? RVL Reese.

960
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 6: Rvel Reese is out there, David Bailey, right, so, and.

961
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: Then we mentioned mac Wilson as well, right, and what

962
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: he did his first year to here being more of

963
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: an edge guy. Why not as an opportunity to draft

964
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Speaker 3: RVL Reese, depending if we move back or down I

965
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: don't know exactly where he's picked, right, and then you

966
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: can move mac Wilson back to outside and then you

967
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Speaker 3: get another edge rusher there. So I think there's some

968
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Speaker 3: things that potentially they maybe do that may shock is

969
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Speaker 3: like Okay, everybody's thinking about Mac Wilson coming back as Mike,

970
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: but we can put him back to where he was

971
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Speaker 3: on the outside, and then that's another edge guy there

972
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Speaker 3: and get a young guy to kind of start building

973
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Speaker 3: that coach. As far as a young Mike linebacker.

974
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Speaker 4: And Cody Simon playing as much as he did exactly

975
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: last season, is that enough to say? All right, there

976
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: was some struggles, some learning curve, but hey, year two,

977
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Speaker 4: maybe it is. It would be a surprise to a

978
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Speaker 4: lot of people. That was the direction they went defensively.

979
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Speaker 6: But hey, we come full circle, you know, Rvel Reese

980
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 6: maybe off the ball, off the edge, and then Sonny

981
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: Styles middle linebacker, maybe out Ohio State as well, and

982
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: then Mac Wilson senior over to the will and then

983
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 6: maybe off the edge. It's all coming together. I think

984
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Speaker 6: we've actually formed related a plan. Gentlemen.

985
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Speaker 4: See, they just need to listen to the Red Sea

986
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987
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Speaker 4: out how to get things back on track.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about.

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