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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Kyles s forber and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. Rubin Tomorrow, Juniors here,

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Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury's here, I'm here, I'm Todd's a lucky It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: September eleventh, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing this morning? You guys? Good?

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Speaker 1: Bien?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it bian or is it bueno?

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Speaker 1: We be We'll be in, We'll be in, We'll be in,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate buino has a better ring to it, like bueno,

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Speaker 3: but it.

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Speaker 1: Is yeah or b yeah.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to taught me a lot of Spanish

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Speaker 3: over the years, some of the words I can actually

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Speaker 3: say in front of people.

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Speaker 2: Is this true, Ruben?

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Speaker 1: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Did you teach him some Spanish over the years?

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Speaker 1: A little bit or now of course, and toss it

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Speaker 1: out there once in a while. I love doing I

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Speaker 1: love doing it. I love doing it before. I like

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Speaker 1: rattling off stuff when I'm on set, either for your

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Speaker 1: post or broadcast and I'm just babbling in Spanish and

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Speaker 1: like faking like I'm doing broadcast in Spanish. It's pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: One of these one of these days, they should they

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Speaker 1: should tape it. It's kind of funny. I would be

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Speaker 1: doing it a little deeps Dad, I was almost.

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Speaker 3: You know that is spoken like a man who is

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Speaker 3: huge on the streets of Caracas.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know, it's correctly. If Jim and I

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Speaker 1: I was huge for a minute.

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Speaker 2: If if Jim and I could take some Spanish lessons

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Speaker 2: of the off season, we could do a Philly Show

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Speaker 2: English version, in a Philly Show Spanish version, and we

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Speaker 2: could take over the world.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we got a global domination, global domination for the

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Speaker 2: Philly Show. Those Philly Show, those Phi Show.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Last night. A lot of action, A lot of action.

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Speaker 2: If you were tuned in eighth inning, A little skirmish

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Speaker 2: on the field. You know it was created some drama

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Speaker 2: last night. Nick cast down gets hit. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you guys read the quotes or how closely you

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Speaker 2: paid attention, but you know Nick gets hit first pitch

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Speaker 2: after his edwin. Now, Okada, uh drills drills Nick?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you said that. Okay gets drilled. Nick drops the bat,

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Speaker 2: gestures towards the mound. Bryce Harper takes off its helmets,

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Speaker 2: starts stalking the guy at the mound. He gets on

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Speaker 2: the mound gets intercepted by a couple of Raised players.

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Speaker 2: After the game, they both talked about it. Said it

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Speaker 2: was just no place for that in the game of baseball.

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Speaker 2: Nick said he thought that he was going to get drilled.

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Speaker 2: He just had a sense he was going to get drilled.

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Speaker 2: Good show of camaraderie, I guess by the Phillies. You

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Speaker 2: guys I love. I mean, I hate to say it. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't hate to say it. I love a good skirmish.

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Speaker 2: I love a good bench is clearing. It is so

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Speaker 2: much fun to write about. Guys are usually chatty post

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Speaker 2: game Jim right, I mean, yeah, it's fun. Those stories

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Speaker 3: There was there was a lot of testosterone flowing and

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Speaker 3: you gotta love it. And you know, I do like

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Speaker 3: a bench clearing skirmish. I like watching a lot of

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Speaker 3: the old ones on YouTube, like the Pascual Perez one

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Speaker 3: with Champs Summers. I mean those are great. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, other than the Todd Pod, my favorite podcast

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Speaker 3: is uh Raw Knuckles with Chris Nylon. You might have

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Speaker 3: to look him up, but he was a former Montreal

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Speaker 3: love listening to that podcast. Well yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: think those moments can do a little camaraderie, bring a

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Speaker 3: but I think they can be kind of galvanizing. How's

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great word.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you know, it's obvious that

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Speaker 1: it hurts some guys. I you know, it's a difficult

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Speaker 1: I always believed in, you know, the players have to

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Speaker 1: And in this day and age where people just don't

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Speaker 1: because one they throw too hard and two they just

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Speaker 3: Was that I didn't even consider that message sending. I

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Speaker 1: That was not a message sending. That that wasn't that

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Speaker 1: was it. I was pissed off because I got my

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Speaker 1: instead of drilling Harper. Yeah, the guy said he threw

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Speaker 1: a change up postgame.

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Speaker 2: That was the most amazing thing. He's like, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: change up got away from me, like ninety six point

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Speaker 1: The only the only buddy, only person has a ninety

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Speaker 1: a change up. It's a sinker. Everybody calls it a

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Speaker 1: but Edward Cabrera throws a ninety three or ninety five

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Speaker 1: I think for him to have done that so egregiously

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then afterwards, Bryce of course said, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: Remember that pitch hit off his wrist, hits off his

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Speaker 2: Blake Snell breaks his thumb in Aaron pitched and so

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Speaker 2: in his mind he sees that he's like, you could,

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Speaker 2: I know, you threw at his hip and it actually

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Speaker 2: hit the target, but you could injure one of my

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Speaker 2: because it was so blatantly obvious that you.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned that Harper, that ninety seven in the face. You know,

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Speaker 3: when I think about remarkable moments I've witnessed over thirty

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Speaker 3: years of covering baseball, that is right up there, ninety

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Speaker 3: seven off the cheekbone walks away. You know, that could

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Speaker 3: have done so much. I don't even want to think

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Speaker 3: such force off his cheekbone that it bruised his wrist

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Speaker 3: things I've ever seen, that that he walked away from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Bryce got hit just the other day

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Speaker 2: guys are throwing harder and they don't know where the

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Speaker 2: But that's it angered angered the Phillies. Kyle Schwarber last night,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber keeps going. He's hot. He's hot in Toronto,

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Speaker 2: hot in Miami. Comes on our show. He keeps it,

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Speaker 2: keeps it going, sets a major league single season record.

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Speaker 2: His fourteenth leadoff home run of the year last night

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Speaker 2: gives the Phillies a one nothing lead. He leaves the

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Speaker 2: game in the before the fourth inning with a hyper

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Speaker 2: But man, Kyle Schwarber, guys in that leadoff spot keeps

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Speaker 2: doing damage, and nobody's asking about who's Rob Thompson should

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Speaker 2: fact that he's the guy in that spot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a run producer man, That's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: He produces runs and he creates a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of angst early in the game for the picture.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he puts he can put people on feeling

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Speaker 1: the pressure early, especially starting pitcher. I mean, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you get ahead in a game, particularly when you're

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Speaker 1: just amazing to see the adjustment he's made as far

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Speaker 1: like this, I mean he literally can take a full

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Speaker 1: he's so he's so his base is so strong that

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Speaker 3: There's like for a starting pitcher, I mean, I know,

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Speaker 3: you've got to come out ready to compete, but we've

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Speaker 3: all talked to starting pictures over the years and they said,

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Speaker 3: there's no coming out and seeing what's working. When you

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Speaker 2: It reminds me, Jim, do you remember that time Jamie

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Speaker 2: Moore gave up a first pitch home run to some

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Speaker 2: no name Braves guy. I can't remember who he was.

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Speaker 3: It was the kid who played He played in Houston

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Speaker 3: for a while. He was an outfielder.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what his name is, but he gave

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Speaker 2: up a first pitch basketball Ruben, And after the game,

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Speaker 2: Jamie's like, well, you know, I'm kind of surprised. You know,

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Speaker 2: usually that's a courtesy. You imagine throwing Al Schreberg courtesy strike.

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Speaker 1: Could do uh uh to Jersey somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Right Ash Bernaley, my man, that exists, Like when you

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Speaker 3: played Rubin did the old courtesy strike?

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Speaker 2: Probably, so yeah, right, Harper came close again to another

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Speaker 1: Uh, he was.

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Speaker 2: He seems kind of stunned that he's not hitting it out,

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Speaker 3: It's three games in a row. He's hit a ball

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't fret. I know, it looked twenty eight games.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: The dude had four hits yesterday and he's usually you know,

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Speaker 1: social media. Point that's like a that's a slang. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 2: People don't know that it's run scored.

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Speaker 3: It's a good point, Ruben.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's great point, Rubert, and we will be right back.

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Speaker 2: Scott braun Our Palette file Territory. This is a good

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Speaker 2: one because the Phillies have an eight game lead with

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Speaker 2: So who do you think? Let's start with that. Who

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Speaker 3: I still think Arizona. The way they play, the style

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Speaker 3: But I still think the Phillies can beat anybody if

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Speaker 1: And my head says the Dodgers probably the toughest team,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: night in the press box at the postseason starts today,

433
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Speaker 2: as he I guess, how do you line up the rotation?

434
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: If you can line it up the way you want

435
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: to see your number four guy in a in a

436
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: in a five game series, seven game series, he's not

437
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: throwing great wheeler Sanchez, NOA thrown a lot better.

438
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Speaker 3: It depends if I can get Sanchez on the mound

439
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: at home, where his splits is so much better. It's

440
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Speaker 3: probably something I'm I'm gonna consider. If it's a series

441
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: you can get through with three starters, maybe Ranger goes

442
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: to the bullpen. These are all good questions, all stuff

443
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're talking about. But it's a concern for me.

444
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 3: And you can say, oh, he didn't have any rehabs

445
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: starts in the minors, He's what is he four starts

446
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 3: in and his stuff.

447
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: Hasn't starts in.

448
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: There's your rehab and the stuff is no better. Everything

449
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: is sort of trending downward, and from vlo to spin,

450
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: you just would like to see more. I wonder how

451
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Speaker 3: good of shape he's in it Does it look like

452
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: he's in tip top shape? And uh, it's it's gotta

453
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: be a concern for that, for that coaching in that

454
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: front office as they aligned.

455
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Speaker 2: Thanks for the postseason, so Rubin Rob Thompson said before

456
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: the game, he mentioned just kind of flow this. Maybe

457
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: he's going through like a little bit of a dead

458
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: arm situation right now, but he is healthy. Ranger said

459
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: last night, he's healthy. Dead arm. Does that make any sense?

460
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,239
Speaker 2: Is that something he could be going through. I mean,

461
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: he missed a month, so I guess usually you hear

462
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: about guys grinding through and then they hit a dead

463
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: arm midseason, but he had a month off and now

464
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: he's four starts in and Rob mentions dead arm.

465
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: See when I like the scout guys, I like to

466
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: watch arm speed. I like to watch mechanics. I like

467
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: to watch see the ball come out of the guy's hand.

468
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: I want to see how the theal hitters react to him. Yesterday,

469
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: everything was sort of blot everything. There was no finish

470
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: to his pitches. I don't know that this is necessarily

471
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: a health thing or an arm strength thing, but the

472
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Speaker 1: arm speed, I do not see the same arm speed.

473
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Speaker 1: I see a floating breaking ball that's kind of rolling

474
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: up there. There's not a lot of sharpness and a

475
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: tilt to it. I see that. I don't see the

476
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: good finish on the change up where you know you're creating,

477
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: where you're creating sort of a deception. And I don't

478
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: see a finish on that fastball. I think he's trying

479
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: to muscle through it. It's not smooth, it's not easy

480
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: what he was doing in the early part of the season.

481
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Speaker 1: I have some concern about what kind of shape he's into.

482
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you know where his legs are. I'm

483
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: not sure you know if he's if he's driving with

484
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: his with his lower half, if his core is is working.

485
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: All those things have to be working. I think to

486
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Speaker 1: get your arm speed to where it needs to be,

487
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: and it may be a mechanical thing. Maybe it's just

488
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: a small adjustment, staying over the rubber a little bit longer,

489
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, being able to drive with your lower half,

490
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. The hitters let you know,

491
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Speaker 1: and when the hitters take the kind of swings they

492
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: always let you know. The that the reaction of the

493
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: hitters and how they swing the bat is always that

494
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: the you know, the telltale sign of you know what

495
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: this guy's got going on, and right now the hitters

496
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: are telling them I can handle anything you got. You're

497
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: flipping stuff up there that I can hit, and so

498
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: that is a concern for me. I I do believe

499
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: that Sanchez is a bitter picture right now, and I

500
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Speaker 1: would put him in the three hole. I would go

501
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: Wheeler Nola and I would go Sanchez. And I know

502
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: it's an issue with his splits at home. He put

503
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: just great at home, not so well on the road.

504
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: He's just gonna have to make that adjustment. I mean, listen,

505
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: if they're and they're gonna have homes to field advantage,

506
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: so the first two games are gonna be at home,

507
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I think, and so he's gonna have to adjust and

508
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: pitch well on the road. Anyway, My point is, I

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: just feel like this guy needs to get his body together.

510
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if that can happen over the

511
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: next month or so, but it's going to have to

512
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: happen two weeks because it's here. And if I have to,

513
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: then I will throw him in the bullpen and to

514
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: make the bullpen a little bit better. But that said,

515
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: because you've got the gumption to do and he's done

516
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: it before. But but yeah, you know you want to

517
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: have all four guys rolling, because when you get in

518
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: a seven game series, man, you need to put Well.

519
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: That's the advantage this team has is they're four deep.

520
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, so many other teams are gonna be going like,

521
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: who the heck do we start in game four because

522
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: you know we've only got two I mean some teams

523
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: only have two quality guys. That The advantage the Phillies

524
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: have is that they have four legit all star quality pitchers.

525
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: So you don't want to sit there in game four

526
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: going we're gonna throw sores out there. But he's kind

527
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: of pitched. You know, these seven starts he made coming

528
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: off the I l he's got any of EUA and

529
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: the fives or in the four's, and he's not looking

530
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: real good. So you don't have a good feeling. You

531
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: want to you want to take advantage of that depth

532
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: that you have and does.

533
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: Does the stuff right now? And I use that word

534
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: right now because things can change. We know how good

535
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: this guy can be. This is the stuff right now

536
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: Translate to the bullpen.

537
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's another.

538
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you make a good point. Maybe

539
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 3: his legs aren't back yet. I don't know.

540
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob keeps saying, you know, this is a rehab,

541
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: this is a rehab assignment. But right, you're right, Jim,

542
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: Like this is his four start. If it was any

543
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: other picture, he'd make three rehabs starts. You're going, all right,

544
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: let's bring him back. He's ready to go, So rehab

545
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: starts to rehab.

546
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: Starts, right, you know, right whatever, I'm.

547
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Sure he should be better than he is right now.

548
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: He should be better because he's got better stuff. And

549
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: but right now I don't see it out of his hand.

550
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: I'd be willing to bet they're having the same conversations

551
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: over there.

552
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: And no question, Oh there's no question.

553
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: They're in the coaches rooming upstairs, so.

554
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing and they know what they're seeing.

555
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well answer this can be Chrissy v on X.

556
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: Will Alec Bone be ready to play when his time

557
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: is up on the il. He thinks he could be back,

558
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, before the end of the weekend.

559
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

560
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: He says, there's gonna be plenty of time to get

561
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: him right at the plate, get in sync with his

562
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: swing and and all that. So he doesn't seem to

563
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: be too concerned about it. I mean, there is enough

564
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: time left in the sea and where it he comes

565
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: back this weekend. He should be okay once the postseason starts.

566
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: To you, guys see it differently. He'll be ready, He'll

567
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: be ready. He's fine. Our good old buddy, Rob Hackash

568
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: from you formerly from the Redding Pills, send us a

569
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: note said. The last two octobers, Hi Rob. The last

570
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: two octobers the fills with no buye seem to take

571
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: advantage of teams the Braves that maybe got a little

572
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: rusty during the bye. How do they keep their momentum

573
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: this year if they get a bye? We just mentioned

574
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: that they've got a game lead over the Dodgers for

575
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: the top record. There are several games up on the

576
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Brewers now for that second seed. That will be the thing, right,

577
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: that'll be the talk when they get the buye is

578
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how do they say sharp? Are they

579
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: gonna play some games? You know, inner squad games. You

580
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: know they're gonna they're gonna face the traject machine just

581
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: see velo. Does any of that apply once the postseason starts?

582
00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: Though?

583
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Right to hear them say that, they but nothing's the

584
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: same as getting in that box, you know, blah blah blah.

585
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: So is there a way to stay sharp.

586
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: You know, to me, baseball is an everyday game and

587
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: you got to get out there every day to stay sharp.

588
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: That said, this team is so banged up. I really

589
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: think they would benefit from a few extra days and

590
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 3: being able to line up their rotation. So what is

591
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: the kind of the lesser of two evils? Or I

592
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: would in this case, and there's times I like to

593
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: keep playing. I think it really helped them in there

594
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 3: with a wildcard team a couple of years ago. But

595
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I would opt for the for the days off in

596
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: this case. And how do you stay sharp? You just

597
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: you just get out there and in sim game whatever

598
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: you got to do. But maybe the best way to

599
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: stay sharp is to get a little rest. Maybe it

600
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 3: would bring some of the sharpest back because they're banged up.

601
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: Ruben, do you think that's is that a convenient excuse

602
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: all the bids?

603
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: And I think it. I think it's a little convenient.

604
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: It is some to it, something to it, just because

605
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: the teams that are that are grinding to win, sometimes

606
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: there's a letdown, you know, when you're grinding, Oh we

607
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: made it now, you know, exhale and then that's what

608
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: happened in No seven with the Phillies. They grinded it,

609
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: they made it. You know, the Mets went tanking and

610
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: then you know, we got into the playoffs and boom,

611
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: we got knocked out in three. Because I think there's

612
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: a collective exhale that we finally made it or whatever,

613
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: and oh, oh, we have to play another series. So

614
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: I think that there's it's different for each team. I

615
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: think it's a there's a different flow to it for

616
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: each team. I think in this case, I agree with

617
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Jim that they have a veteran group of guys who've

618
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: been through it the last two years. They know what

619
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: it takes and what it's like to be in the playoffs.

620
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Most of the players, even with you Turners and the

621
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean everybody basically on this team has been through this,

622
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: been through the postseason. They unders and what it takes

623
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: and how to be sharp. I do think that Rob

624
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Thompson will do some things simulated games. Even talked about

625
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: semi jokingly about piping in some noise and stuff like that,

626
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: some crowd noise and things like that to be able

627
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: to get get guys going. I'm not sure if they'll

628
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: necessarily need it, but I'm sure they're thinking about all

629
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: this stuff and preparing for all these things. I'm okay.

630
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm okay with them getting a couple of days off,

631
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: if they get a week off. It's one thing. Now,

632
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: I understand that MLB is trying to tighten up some

633
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: of this stuff that if you know, there's a couple

634
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: of blowout series that they're gonna you know, start series,

635
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, try not to let it expand to too long,

636
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: and they might have to make adjustments. Now, it's all

637
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: about TV and revenue and all that stuff, but I

638
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: think that's a smart thing to do that. You know too,

639
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of series get knocked off quickly.

640
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't have those guys sit around for

641
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: four or five days. You got to make them play.

642
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: Plus you lose the momentum of the fan base. And

643
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: so I think they're going to make some adjustments on

644
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: that as well.

645
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: I don't think that other teams necessarily like let their

646
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: guard down, But I feel like if any team is

647
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: going to have a sense of urgency in terms of

648
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: being prepared, it's going to be this team. You know.

649
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: John Smoltz said it last week on the show. He said,

650
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, the bitter sting of getting knocked out last

651
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: year in the NLCS has this team so motivated and focused,

652
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: so I think whatever they could possibly do, I think

653
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: they're going to be all in on again. Not to

654
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: say that other teams aren't all in on it when

655
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: they get these first round byes, but I think this

656
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: team is going to be really like, all right, guys,

657
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: let's do whatever they need to do because they don't

658
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: want to blow this and they go low boys, you know,

659
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: and we were really rusty coming out of that buy

660
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: and got knocked out. So John Maloney on x oh,

661
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: do you think the Phillies will engage Kyle schwarberth a

662
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: contract extension talks? And what do you think that might

663
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: look like?

664
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: I think about that all the time because next year

665
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: will be his final year and it's been a great signing.

666
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: How old is he?

667
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: Thirty one, thirty one, thirty two? I can take a

668
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: look at that.

669
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: I think he's thirty one years old. I believe I

670
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: think he'll be thirty two when we when they have

671
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: to extend them with thirty two or thirty three.

672
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: And so so good, such a good signing, and like

673
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: I said, I think about that. It's I would engage

674
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: him to see where it's going to go. But you know,

675
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: his his agent. I mean he four years, seventy nine

676
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: million dollars, they're going to be looking you know, it

677
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: looks like almost like a bargain they're going to be

678
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: looking for for a pretty significant deal, I would imagine,

679
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: because I don't see that bat speed going away anytime soon.

680
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: In that selectivity and his dh I think he could

681
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: continue to do what he's been doing for for a

682
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: few years. He's such a good clubhouse presence. I would

683
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: engage it and see where it goes. I'd love to

684
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: keep it to like three, but I don't think it would.

685
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'd be hard to imagine. You

686
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to go more than that, Ruben, You've done

687
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: these things.

688
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to engage him for another three probably,

689
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: And I was sure the better if you have to

690
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: pay more money to do it. I mean we talked

691
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: about this at nauseum. I mean, I'd rather be able

692
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: to do shorter deals for more money. And you know

693
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: you got that. You got that out of Wheels, right,

694
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: you got three more years out of Wheels at a big,

695
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: big time money. Top of the top of the ticket

696
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: enough money. But that said, I think this guy would

697
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: want to stay here. I think he likes being here.

698
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I think the you know, you typically don't want to

699
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: negotiate during the season where the guy's having one of

700
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: his better seasons of his career, so it's you you

701
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: want to see him have a lull a little bit

702
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. But that said, there's a lot of factors here. Okay,

703
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: So it's health because there's lower half. You know, he's

704
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: had some knee issues, He's had some stuff going on.

705
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be necessarily a long

706
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: term thing, but you'd have to factor that in. I mean,

707
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: I went through that with Brian Howard when we extended

708
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: him and he ended up, you know, blowing out achilles

709
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: and his lower half didn't work anymore, and all of

710
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he was a different player and so and

711
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: he had some knee issues as associated with that, So

712
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: you have to be aware of that. That said, I mean,

713
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: you sort of have to pay the guy for his

714
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: presence because his presence is huge. He makes the team

715
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: a better team by his presence alone and his knowledge

716
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: of the game, his ability to pick things out from

717
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the picture, and his ability to work counts, and there's

718
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: so many different other things that are associated that you

719
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: sort of can't measure that an analytics person cannot measure.

720
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: And when you're trying to win, you need winning players

721
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: and winning people, and he is that. And if you

722
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: do not keep guys like that, those guys don't come

723
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: off of trees. They're not you know, the Darren Dalton's

724
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: of the world, aren't you know, those are the Chase

725
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: Utleys of the world. As far as leadership, they don't,

726
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't even exist because no one cares

727
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: enough about their teams to be the kind of guy

728
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: that Kyle Schworber is. And so that is a very

729
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: important piece of this that I know that Dave Nebrowski understands.

730
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, go back and listen to the episode on Monday

731
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: with Kyle schworbur and you can get a great sense

732
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: of what kind of leader leader that he is in

733
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: that clubhouse and the intangibles that he brings to this team.

734
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: So let's let's finish off with some quick one. Steve

735
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Johnson on Instagram. If you gave Ruben a week to

736
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: stretch his arm, what could he hit on the radar

737
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: gun Ruben, What are you are throwing up?

738
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: There? Some serious change right right, right handed or left handed?

739
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: That's true.

740
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: Let's go with your.

741
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Strip right now, right now. I don't have anything on

742
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: my right arm right now. I mean they didn't even

743
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: let me throw BP when I was you know, I

744
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: was so bad with my vp uh in Boston that

745
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: they said, okay, I can't, we can't do that.

746
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: People don't realize. People don't realize.

747
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: How difficult it is to well, especially when the three

748
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: first the very first time I go to to throw

749
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: b P. Davin Browski's behind the behind the turtle and

750
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, Christ and I'm having to throw left

751
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: handed with my right because my right arm was screwed up,

752
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: so I'm throwing left handed. I'm drilling guys. Oh it

753
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: was terrible.

754
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: Who was the team gets like two hit that night

755
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: and they blame you terrible?

756
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Totally right, Yeah, no doubt, but probably I don't know,

757
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: sixty five miles an hour. I can't, you know, it

758
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: would it would take a long time for me to

759
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: get my arm stretched out to be able to throw,

760
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, seventy seventy miles an hour or whatever I

761
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: did throw it, I did throw in a professional game though,

762
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: when I played nine nine positions in a ball in

763
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: at the King of California League just right, Bill Bill

764
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: latch Bill Latchman. Bill Lashman allowed me to do it.

765
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: He was our manager. He's the greatest god blessing me

766
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: passed away recently or fairly recently. He let me play

767
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: all nine positions. It was one of the coolest things.

768
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: We had already clinched the first half and the very

769
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: next game he let me play nine positions. It was

770
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I got a guy to roll over on.

771
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: I got a guy oh two, and I just film

772
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: a little sinker that rolled over to shortstop thing. I

773
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: think it was just one hitter at that I think

774
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: I faced just one hitter, maybe two.

775
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Luke keiesol on X. I'm a musician and used to

776
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: play at the Continental in Yardly. Ruben came to us

777
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: during a gig and requested Hoody and the Blowfish. Is

778
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: Ruben still a hoodie guy? Are you still a hootie guy?

779
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Huge hooty guy that used to be my go to

780
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: for karaoke. Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome. I love Hoodie. In fact,

781
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: crazy story, I saw Hoody before Hoody became Hoodie.

782
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: Is that right?

783
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: I was in Dallas hanging out with a friend of

784
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: mine there and uh, this is a thousand years ago,

785
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and she said that we're going to some hockey talk

786
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: place in Dallas and some group called like Hoody in

787
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the Blowfish or Pluti in the blow Dumps or something,

788
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. And I'm like what

789
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: And we ended up going and literally Hoody ended up.

790
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean there's Hooty and the Blowfish on the stage.

791
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: I was like, those guys are awesome. Boom. Right after that,

792
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: they like they went nuts. And Darius Rucker, Darius Rutger

793
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: and his group became like famous as hell. And I mean,

794
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. He's also like a huge baseball fan.

795
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I think, yes, so big sports god.

796
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Back in like ninety four or five, one of the

797
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: Blowfish actually came to the Phillies Clubhouse. Not Hooty, but

798
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: one of the Blowfish.

799
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: And one of the blow Dumps.

800
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Because they were friends with Dave Hollins from University of

801
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: South Carolina. That's one of the guys knew Dave Hollins

802
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: and he came to the clubhouse so got to witness

803
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: one of the blowfish up close and personal.

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: What a huge thrill. I'm sure.

805
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Let's finish with this six though on X What were

806
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: Jim and Todd's funniest inn actions with Ruben while he

807
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: was an executive. I was thinking about this, and honestly,

808
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of like one specific funny moment, but

809
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: there were I mean, there was just a lot of uh,

810
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: you know, goofing around in moments that provided some levity.

811
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: You know, there was there was a lot of laughs

812
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: in the you know, because you had to be somewhat serious.

813
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: But you know, you had to be serious a lot

814
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: of the time because you were making big decisions and

815
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: had to talk about struggles and whatnot.

816
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: But there were a lot of serious moments. There were

817
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: times when you're I mean, when you're a reporter and

818
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: an executive, sometimes you bang heads and you get sideways.

819
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I had some cold wars with Ruben that lasted,

820
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, for months, and then you know, some some disagreements.

821
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: But you know, Ruben always had really and still does,

822
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: his thick skin. But there were times when you could

823
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: lighten up the moment and have a laugh and break

824
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: the tension and maybe end the Cold War and we

825
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: had some laughs over the years.

826
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I do think about

827
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: for these guys is that, you know, when I was

828
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: a player and they were sort of Jim at the

829
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: time I was a player, you were, or not Jim,

830
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: but Zo. You know, there's a different relationship as a player,

831
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I goofed around a lot more as

832
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: a player than I could obviously as an executive. So

833
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: the dynamic that they have these guys had to deal

834
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: with me is sort of different as a player as

835
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: an executive. They're like, this guy was like a player

836
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: a few you know, a few minutes ago or whatever

837
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: back in the day, and and and so obviously a

838
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: lot more playful now than you ever was. But but

839
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: it was really sort of different when I was a player,

840
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit more playful. I think as a player, Jim,

841
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: you would probably know a little bit more about that.

842
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I can mess around. But there were times when I

843
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: was in this, when I was an executive too that

844
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: we and some of this stuff can't we cannot air no,

845
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: but but but some fun stuff that that did did

846
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: still go on. I mean, I it probably was a

847
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: different dynamic for you guys, and for most reporters that

848
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: when I made the transition from being you know, on

849
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: the field to being in the in the front office,

850
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: that you had to we had to sort of deal

851
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: with each other differently. Weird.

852
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. It was a big change. The cat

853
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: and mouse game before free agencies was always you know,

854
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: it could elicit some laughs.

855
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: You know.

856
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: I you catch Reuben and maybe at the GM meetings

857
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, you know, does this guy do

858
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: anything for you? And he said, I say, does this

859
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: guy do anything for you? And you're kind of like

860
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: talking on background. You know, as a reporter, you're trying

861
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: to build your story and plan for two three four

862
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Speaker 3: weeks down the road whether or not there might be

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Speaker 3: interested in a certain guy. And you know, does this

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00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: guy give you any blood flow? Ruben and blood flow?

865
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: You know, moderate flow? Moderate? If no flow would have

866
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: come up, I know, maybe there's nothing there but modern flow.

867
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Speaker 3: Maybe a guy to keep an eye on. So you

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00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: developed these little code words and and and but you

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00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: never know, you know, I had a GM once tell

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Speaker 3: me at I think it was the GM meetings or something,

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Speaker 3: we are not signing x X player. We are not

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Speaker 3: signing x player. And so that kind of shaped my

873
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: thinking throughout the winter and then they signed X player.

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Speaker 3: So you're never right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one thing. The time.

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Speaker 3: Once I was interviewing you at the Winter Meetings, Todd,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So at the Winter Meetings, we you know,

878
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: you'd have a session with the GM every day, and

879
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: I remember going upstairs to your room or you're suite

880
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 3: actually where you're all your brain trust with the war room,

881
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: and we had a camera and you know, you'd walk in,

882
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: they turn around the whiteboard so you couldn't see the

883
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: whiteboard with all the names they would get. And remember

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Speaker 3: that Todd and had so I said, Ruben is going

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Speaker 3: to do this little stand up interview with me. He said,

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Speaker 3: we'll do it right here. We're right here. He was

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00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: all business, you know. So you know, I remember saying, like,

888
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, I'm in the war room is where all

889
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: the Phillies plans are behind this whiteboard. There are secret

890
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: documents all over this room. And I held up an

891
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 3: M and M rapper.

892
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Speaker 2: So good.

893
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Speaker 1: It was funny. We used to have to either turn

894
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: the whiteboard around and we have to drape it with

895
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: like a sheet or something like that. You know, we

896
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: had a special sheet Mike go on to always set

897
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: up the room. You know, our director of pro scouting

898
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: who's still there, just still do a great job with them.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but uh it was fun. It was fun time, man,

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Speaker 1: it was fun, uh doing that stuff, those devils at Nance.

901
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all those little nuances you have to pick up

902
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 2: on how what a guy's saying, Like Jim, that's so true.

903
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: Like if Ruben, like I remember talking to you the

904
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: Cliff Lee thing was about to happen. I remember I

905
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Speaker 2: think you were in Arizona maybe, or I was in Arizona.

906
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Was Arizona, right, And I remember getting you on the

907
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: phone and asking, like you know Ken Rosenthal or somebody

908
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: says this thing is close and you're like, I'm not

909
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: talking about Todd, I am not getting into free agent negotiations.

910
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: And I said, just the vibe you're giving me, I

911
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: was like, this guy is full of it right now.

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00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: There's something going on. There is something. But just just

913
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: from knowing you over the years, and if something was

914
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: totally not going to happen, it was garbage. The tone

915
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: in your voice was just different when you said there's

916
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: nothing going on or I'm not going to talk about this,

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Speaker 2: I don't beget in free agent negotiations. I don't discuss

918
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: this stuff. I was like, hmm, I think there's something

919
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Speaker 2: happening here. So I remember calling t R. Sullivan, who

920
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: was our Rangers writer at MLB dot Com at the time.

921
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Speaker 2: I said, I think something is going on here. And

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Speaker 2: then he ended up breaking the story because I think

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00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: he got word from the Rangers that Cliff said he's

924
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Speaker 2: signing with the Phillies. So he ended up breaking that

925
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Speaker 2: story that night on Twitter. But yeah, so that those

926
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: are the little things that you pick up.

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Speaker 3: So I remember, and sometimes we can help Ruben because

928
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Speaker 3: I remember when so at one winter meetings, you guys

929
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: were trying to make that Michael Young deal and it

930
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: got really hung up, and I forget why he was

931
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Speaker 3: trying to decide whether to wave his no trade or whatever.

932
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Speaker 3: But I had somebody close to Michael Young telling me

933
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: that he eventually is gonna wave his no trade close.

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00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: It's gonna take a tay or two, but it's gonna happen.

935
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: So I'm writing that this deal will happen. Michael Young

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Speaker 3: will and I remember Ruben calling me and saying, do

937
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: you know something I don't know? They they were not

938
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: getting the word from Michael Young's camp whether he was

939
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: going to accept this deal or not so and that

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00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: created some laughs and it's great.

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Speaker 2: I had never heard that story.

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00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny.

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00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: That is great. All right, Well, thanks everybody for the questions.

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Speaker 2: We will be back later this week.

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Speaker 3: Smelly Lena boys.

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