Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one Engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: So sometimes I tried just to keep you know, I
Speaker 2: just want to do what everybody's schedule says. So there
Speaker 2: was a text and said, hey, Tuesday nine thirty, So
Speaker 2: I was maybe getting the hair for me. It was
Speaker 2: for everybody. I just want to commentate it.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was nine thirty this morning. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, damn, that's early, I know, especially for you.
Speaker 2: Normally we take it like two. This is like the
Speaker 2: middle of the night for me.
Speaker 3: But Jen, it was like, we're usually this week we're
Speaker 3: on spring break. So but usually it works with kids
Speaker 3: schedules and stuff, and but Amy just had to get
Speaker 3: her hair colored.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I literally was like, fine, I'm just going
Speaker 2: to accommodate what everybody needs. I'll be there at nine thirty.
Speaker 2: I have full hair color right now.
Speaker 1: Look you look beautiful.
Speaker 3: And Jen, what did you say?
Speaker 1: It was? It was very wet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jenny said it was so Hollywood because the
Speaker 2: hair bow.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was sure. I didn't say what you said. No,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's so Hollywood. Amy actually getting her
Speaker 1: hair colored as we're doing the podcast it's.
Speaker 2: A nice distraction though from what I would call half
Speaker 2: a good apple.
Speaker 1: I need to get a pattic here. Should I have
Speaker 1: them come in?
Speaker 2: Well, we do ourn ice for sure, massage. I'd love
Speaker 2: to get a massage.
Speaker 3: Did the podcast because you had beautiful feet, and then
Speaker 3: we can get you on wicked feet.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be you'd get.
Speaker 3: So many downloads. Oh, that's going to be my new
Speaker 3: side hustle. Sorry, sorry Randall.
Speaker 4: James.
Speaker 3: May I manage you for Wiki feet? I'd like to
Speaker 3: step in.
Speaker 2: Do you get paid for that?
Speaker 3: You can? I've heard allegedly you make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Whoa, it's not a select. I've been on which he
Speaker 1: fee for years. I haven't made it die, so I'll
Speaker 1: be looking for that chat.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what I'm wrong. You're right. Feet they
Speaker 3: just you get a score. Oh we've looked at this before.
Speaker 3: You have a very high score. She has beautiful feet,
Speaker 3: always had, but feet finder. Feet finder is the one
Speaker 3: you actually get paid if they see your feet. So
Speaker 3: you know, times ever get tough. You know where we'll
Speaker 3: be heading, Amy, you may you may come with us.
Speaker 2: Wait, I've never seen your feet, Amy, They're wonderful except
Speaker 2: for I thought I could have been a foot model,
Speaker 2: but then I broke a toe once and that kind
Speaker 2: of ruined my career.
Speaker 3: But otherwise I think they're fucking you did okay in
Speaker 3: your career.
Speaker 2: So and yes, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1: Let's tell me talk about the real McCoy please, Season five,
Speaker 1: episode twenty nine. There's so much going on, we got
Speaker 1: to get to this. Aired May tenth, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: I think the one is, oh, sorry, how Jenny felt
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Let's just give them the I want to hear all
Speaker 3: about it. You know. She likes an order like come
Speaker 3: on okay. Synopsis from Beverly Hills to the Wild Wild West,
Speaker 3: Dylan McKay becomes Billy McCoy during a regressive dream with
Speaker 3: the help of Molly the hypnotist. While Dylan is convinced
Speaker 3: that Kelly is his true soul mate, Brandon is back
Speaker 3: at home and bombed when he loses the CU election.
Speaker 3: When Kelly isn't there to support her, man, Valerie uses
Speaker 3: her absence as an opportunity to make them move unbranded. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's finally happening. Meanwhile, Donna is still in the dark
Speaker 3: and not the Peepee Pad about Ray and Valerie directed but.
Speaker 1: Your very favorite Jason Priestley written by Cheryles Cheryls written
Speaker 1: by Charles Rosenmolin.
Speaker 2: Don't you think Jason jumped at the chance to direct
Speaker 2: this one because it's so weird? He would love it,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, given the fact that he had already
Speaker 1: done Tombstone, he had the oh that's right, he had
Speaker 1: the Western in his blood.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: He's probably the perfect person to do it because he
Speaker 1: had just done it Stone, he had just been living
Speaker 1: in that world for months.
Speaker 2: He did get some interesting camera moves. Did you notice that,
Speaker 2: like one point, the camera just totally on its side.
Speaker 1: Well, that was Kelly's angle. Yeah, that was Kelly's point
Speaker 1: of view of Dylan in the States.
Speaker 2: Do you remember it? I mean, it's so rafy woo.
Speaker 3: I got to interrupt your keen. Do do you think
Speaker 3: that it's likely that the boys Jason and Luke pitch
Speaker 3: this scenario. No, Like, they weren't like, hey, They're like, hey,
Speaker 3: here's what we want to do. We're building up to
Speaker 3: this hypnotist thing, anything you guys want to do, and
Speaker 3: they're like, wild, wholl what, here's.
Speaker 1: What I think I think that maybe Luke was giving
Speaker 1: them some ideas. I think that I remember that Luke
Speaker 1: was wanting to do different things than just Dylan McKay,
Speaker 1: and I think that this was a way for the
Speaker 1: show to sort of try to fulfill his you know,
Speaker 1: blossoming creative needs and okay, at the risk of the
Speaker 1: show basically.
Speaker 3: Well, it didn't take us down, but it did take
Speaker 3: us out of it. We do was he I'm blanking
Speaker 3: on him the name of the movie because I'm stand
Speaker 3: up with Eminem's.
Speaker 1: Eight seconds, eight eight minutes would be a long ride.
Speaker 2: It'll be a long time on the hole. Eight seconds.
Speaker 3: When did that come out? I'm curious if it.
Speaker 2: Overlapped nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: Huh, so it had already come out. M h.
Speaker 3: He got that.
Speaker 1: He got the taste too of like, you know, Luke
Speaker 1: loved animals, horses, cowboy things.
Speaker 2: So he was like, I could really ride those horses
Speaker 2: that he's riding in this Yeah, which is.
Speaker 3: Well, we already had a little bit in there with Jen.
Speaker 3: I'll direct this to you. This is my name's You're welcome.
Speaker 1: I like to do that once a season, and that's it.
Speaker 2: I know we've had a good an in a while.
Speaker 3: It never gets old when you do that. Ever, We're
Speaker 3: going to be in our rocking chairs and I'm going
Speaker 3: to turn to you and you might not remember the.
Speaker 1: Name of Bill, like to remind me for sure. I
Speaker 1: just literally forgot it. Now, So when we're like eighty
Speaker 1: year because I'm not gonna remember anything.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's our code when I.
Speaker 1: Turned to you? When I go it doesn't matter, I
Speaker 1: won't remember it. I'll be like, why are you looking
Speaker 1: at me like that?
Speaker 2: So do you remember?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 3: And I'll be like, remember me, I'm your best friend.
Speaker 3: And at this point for eighty years.
Speaker 2: Jenny, do you remember any of this?
Speaker 1: Do I remember any of this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do, because you're in these crazy costumes and it
Speaker 2: was so different. It must have Tell me what you remember?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had some gorgeous wigs on. Yeah, and bonnets.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Your long remember is back.
Speaker 2: Your long hair was back.
Speaker 1: I remember it. I was like, well, why am I?
Speaker 1: Why am I getting dragged into these?
Speaker 3: You're the chosen one regressions?
Speaker 1: It was we had fun. Honestly, we had a really
Speaker 1: good time shooting this.
Speaker 2: Why did you.
Speaker 3: Film it out there?
Speaker 1: You know, in your neck of the woods, Like that's
Speaker 1: like park, No, you know where they are the mag
Speaker 1: or whatever?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no way.
Speaker 1: And what's that one with the medicine woman.
Speaker 2: Oh Quinn, doctor Quinn.
Speaker 3: Like Malibu Canyon mount only Park, Santa Monica that one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh Jenny, Jenny for the wind fully pulling out like
Speaker 2: that was awesome dropping knowledge. So that's where they filmed
Speaker 2: mash and doctor Quinn Medicine Woman. And that's where you
Speaker 2: did this. And the interesting thing is you're really the
Speaker 2: only it's only you and Luke. Everybody else is so random.
Speaker 2: It's totally random.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like who are these people? They're really good background
Speaker 1: actors and actors. Like I was like, hey, I would
Speaker 1: watch this movie, just not on nine or two, and oh,
Speaker 1: but I might watch this movie.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of the Yellowstone prequel.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a Western fan. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3: When you guys were filming it and it came up,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, and watching it again, I still
Speaker 3: felt I loved watching you and Luke and it was hot,
Speaker 3: but I don't love Western.
Speaker 1: This isn't hot.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was hot.
Speaker 1: There was nothing hot about sitting on a blanket under
Speaker 1: a tree reading the Bible hot in a way.
Speaker 3: That in the since I love when Kelly and fill
Speaker 3: In her together, I just do because he's your soul. Mean,
Speaker 3: it's great. I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it too for the reason.
Speaker 2: The end is crazy, but we won't get there yet.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait, I just wanted to shoot you some trivia here.
Speaker 1: You see this tour while this episode, I can't see it.
Speaker 1: I can't pull it up you While this episode has
Speaker 1: been wildly thought of as one of the worst episodes
Speaker 1: in the history of Not Too It aired in the
Speaker 1: middle of May Sweeps and was directed by Jason Priestley,
Speaker 1: which is shocking that it would get such dragged so much.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, because it was obviously like Sweeps. It
Speaker 2: was expensive. I mean it's like it's a full Sweeps
Speaker 2: episode because you're out on this other set with all
Speaker 2: these actors out on location. It's not the.
Speaker 3: Worst, I mean, I got I gotta say my dad
Speaker 3: started like making Westerns. A little known fact when he
Speaker 3: was an actor, he was in gun Smoke, which none
Speaker 3: of our audience will know. But it's an old throwback series.
Speaker 3: So he loved Westerns. But I just can't imagine Fox
Speaker 3: being like, oh, for sweets, let's take a really bold chance.
Speaker 3: That might not work. That didn't work, well?
Speaker 1: What is their major stars on their network wanted to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's why this is interesting too. Episode writer Larry Mullen
Speaker 1: wanted to underline for some reason that Dylan thinking he
Speaker 1: and Kelly were soulmates isn't the truth, but just Dylan's
Speaker 1: interpretation at that moment in time. I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: That's confusing to me why he was saying this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what is he's saying there? Will you read that?
Speaker 1: I feel like he's covering his ass because the show
Speaker 1: goes on and they're not soulmates, and you know, writing kind.
Speaker 2: They kind of are because you end up. I don't
Speaker 2: want to spoil wait Jenny read though. I really I've
Speaker 2: heard that he said this, and I kind of want
Speaker 2: to understand it say that way.
Speaker 1: Harry Mullen wanted to underline that Dylan thinking he and
Speaker 1: Kelly are soulmates isn't the truth, but merely Dylan's interpretation
Speaker 1: at that moment in time.
Speaker 3: Was Larry Highwood, he gave this, I don't get that.
Speaker 2: Do you understand that?
Speaker 3: Probably it literally doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: He honestly, he's saying in this episode that there's such
Speaker 1: a big deal made about like oh, their soulmates. But
Speaker 1: she wanted to like retract that. I think because he
Speaker 1: didn't find that it lasted the length of the show.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, or just to justify Dylan going
Speaker 1: to get married and Kelly whatever, Kelly. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but I know Dylan got married.
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, right, right right?
Speaker 3: So he's so okay, okay, that's starting yet that wait,
Speaker 3: Tony's not coming in soon?
Speaker 2: Is she next season?
Speaker 1: Soon? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Next season?
Speaker 2: So they couldn't approved the we're only a couple episodes away.
Speaker 1: But maybe you don't know Larry made this comment. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't know when Larry made this comment, so he could.
Speaker 2: I have no idea either, so maybe respect Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: So I have so many questions.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just start. You want to start with your questions?
Speaker 1: Or do you what?
Speaker 3: Do you want to go through through it?
Speaker 1: You can ask your questions as we go. How about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because it's such a weird episode and I but
Speaker 2: yet with some major bombs, right like huge?
Speaker 3: Wait before we start, Amy, is there some point you
Speaker 3: need to take that off your hair.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much Tori for asking. That's why
Speaker 2: I've timed it so that right as we finished the podcast,
Speaker 2: I will jump in the shower.
Speaker 1: It's looking really good. Thanks, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So begin, because let's start. There's so much to address.
Speaker 1: Well, we started the Caliber California University, where Brandon's term
Speaker 1: ASU president has come to an end, sadly, but they're
Speaker 1: throwing him a party, and it's what you love.
Speaker 2: The whole cast is there, the whole.
Speaker 1: Gang is there, oddly, uncomfortably in the room where they
Speaker 1: have their big meetings with branded warth suits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awkward cake which I was willing to bet a
Speaker 2: million dollars. He was going to say, let them eat cake.
Speaker 1: I well that was a big cake, right yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Brandon years the brand were they hoping that would
Speaker 1: catch on or did it catch on? And I don't remember,
Speaker 1: didn't catch on? We should be brand, which we're three over.
Speaker 3: The Brandon years leaves an episode a season eight, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: At some point we got a little more time with them, but.
Speaker 1: Brandon is celebrating, everybody's celebrating. Valerie's got her talons out
Speaker 1: looking for her next pray and she's sinking her eyes
Speaker 1: on Brandon right to Donna.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, Bright.
Speaker 1: In front of everybody.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jenmy, it doesn't make sense. Wtf, Valerie.
Speaker 3: I was like, gone through everybody else, you guys she
Speaker 3: hasn't yet. Yeah, everyone but David.
Speaker 1: They were dating, so that's what her real life boyfriend.
Speaker 3: She was like, No, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 3: That's why I go through all the rest of the cast,
Speaker 3: and they're like.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how Brian must have felt with his
Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend joining the cast, yes, and then having systematically
Speaker 1: to go make out or have like love affairs on
Speaker 1: TV with every guy on the show.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's a good story about his feelings about that,
Speaker 3: and we should ask him one day because he does
Speaker 3: have feelings about that.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's just very cringey. It's cringey, Like it's
Speaker 2: cringey how she's so aggressive, and it's like, I know
Speaker 2: she's not her relative, he's not. They're not related. I
Speaker 2: understand that.
Speaker 3: But we feel like they are weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be
Speaker 1: a valve Kelly Taylor showdown. I'm here for it. I'm
Speaker 1: ready bring it on. It's going to be like I've
Speaker 1: always liked their friction, their tension, because somebody's got to
Speaker 1: be calling this bitch out andpparently it's going to be killy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, I did not care for the lipstick, and nobody
Speaker 2: write me that I don't like Tiffany. I like Tiffany.
Speaker 2: I did not like that lipstick.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice it. Her lips are so puffy
Speaker 1: and beautiful, like happening.
Speaker 2: It's sort of that nude look. And I think I'm
Speaker 2: triggered by it because I think I took the nude
Speaker 2: look because of that. Probably and admit it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I think I just don't like it that
Speaker 2: she's I just know I'm really irritated by her in
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 1: It's weird because on one episode I'm like, hey, it
Speaker 1: must be so fun to play a boss like this.
Speaker 1: She's so powerful and influential and what a strong character.
Speaker 1: And then in the next episode, I'm like, I hate
Speaker 1: this character because she has no moral compass. She only
Speaker 1: does conniving things all the time. Is that going to
Speaker 1: be the way? Is she ever going to redeem herself
Speaker 1: in any real.
Speaker 3: Way, so well done on the writer's part. As a viewer,
Speaker 3: they're keeping you on your toes. You know what you're
Speaker 3: going to get. You're like, oh, just when I started
Speaker 3: to like her, Oh I hate her again.
Speaker 2: That's I guess. I don't care for her in this
Speaker 2: episode at all. Like I'm like you are.
Speaker 4: Is.
Speaker 1: She just feels like a cockerroach, like she's just like
Speaker 1: hanging around waiting for food to fall so that she
Speaker 1: could eat it up.
Speaker 2: And this scene is just the beginning of the cringe
Speaker 2: for me. The scene of the with Brandon, I'm just
Speaker 2: which all pause until we get it.
Speaker 3: It does feel very out of the blue, but that
Speaker 3: happens often an I am to one out and.
Speaker 1: Then they go out on Kelly asking if she's going
Speaker 1: to make a move on Brandon, and Valerie says that
Speaker 1: she's going to keep an eye on her man, but
Speaker 1: she really meant Dylan because he's the one Kelly dreams about.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: That was very bizarre too, That just was I'm sorry
Speaker 2: to be frustrated because it was so weird because first
Speaker 2: you're teasing me with this sort of valor he's going
Speaker 2: to make her move on Brandon but then you're throwing
Speaker 2: me this curveball, which I think is because of the
Speaker 2: Dylan Kelly undertones in this episode. It just feels like
Speaker 2: they're forcing Valerie to do all these weird things to
Speaker 2: move the plot along, and it's just so irritating.
Speaker 1: I agree, but it's fun to watch. Okay. So they're
Speaker 1: running out of the wallsh house where val is packing
Speaker 1: a lovely picnic basket and complete with.
Speaker 2: Wine, which did look lovely.
Speaker 1: I know I wanted to go on that picnic.
Speaker 2: The fruit spread the only thing I know. The cheese selection,
Speaker 2: it looked like straight from Bristol Farms, although.
Speaker 3: Came through on that one looked dry.
Speaker 1: I was like, we need a little mayo or some
Speaker 1: muscamea yeah, a little splash of something and.
Speaker 2: She's cutting it. That was the only part that I
Speaker 2: was like, that's not as gourmet as the rest of
Speaker 2: your presentation.
Speaker 1: So she takes it over to Dylan's house and is
Speaker 1: met by Charlie, who doesn't let her in because Dylan
Speaker 1: is inside going under hypnosis again with his Molly Mall Mollie.
Speaker 2: He says fifty times moll.
Speaker 1: Mollie, who's starting to get a little hot shot shot
Speaker 1: if you ask me resting a little inappropro for her sessions.
Speaker 2: Her high rise mom jeans were rough. She was very
Speaker 2: pretty at the end, but those moms is that.
Speaker 1: Shot where she bends over like and her like just
Speaker 1: I've been on the set when these things happen, and
Speaker 1: it just triggers me. She's Brandon's directing, Oops, Jason directing.
Speaker 1: It's a shot on dylanops to Sean Luke and they
Speaker 1: have big boob shot right, just come right in and
Speaker 1: linger for a while and then right out. Nobody was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, that's a little good too. It is maybe
Speaker 1: she should pull her shirt up a little. Nope, and
Speaker 1: she's as.
Speaker 3: She wanted to go for it. Yeah, she's a.
Speaker 1: Girl and she can dress however she wants. But I
Speaker 1: was like, she.
Speaker 2: Looks gorgeous at the end. I was like, whoa, she's
Speaker 2: quite pretty black. But the mom jeans, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like they were like didn't have something and they
Speaker 3: just like pulled from Cindy Walsh's wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Am I the only one? Okay? If anyone listening can
Speaker 2: relate to this, I sort of look away when they're
Speaker 2: doing the hypnotizing because I think to myself, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be hypnotized accidentally while watching this.
Speaker 1: She doesn't do anything though, to hypnotize him. She's just
Speaker 1: I guess she already does that name.
Speaker 3: You're fine, I'm already not I'm and they do that.
Speaker 1: Or the Black Circle A think and you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't want look away.
Speaker 2: The Chicken episode that I won't explain to Jenny what
Speaker 2: it is if she doesn't remember, but because I'm afraid
Speaker 2: I'll be like.
Speaker 1: Are you messing with me right now? Amy?
Speaker 4: Amy?
Speaker 1: That is an episode of.
Speaker 2: This show.
Speaker 1: No, that's an episode of Learn Liver and Truly, And
Speaker 1: you're messing with me right now? Oh my god, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm it's going to walk away from that and get nervous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know any idea what you're talking about now.
Speaker 1: I really hope it's me or Kelly, like a Chicken trust,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. Oh my god, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever, did you feel like this was
Speaker 1: the longest hypno trance you've ever Like He's in there
Speaker 1: for hours and I don't really get it, Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be so like trying to understand what
Speaker 1: are they doing? Why is he doing this for what right?
Speaker 3: They don't explain that. That's the problem. It's like he's
Speaker 3: he's trying to evolve.
Speaker 1: And trying to figure out like his hang ups from
Speaker 1: his past lives or past Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Is that what we're to understand that in a past
Speaker 2: life he was a gunslinging cowboy who found the goods
Speaker 2: the good in him because he fell in love with
Speaker 2: a Kelly Taylor joppel Ganger. Like, that's my problem is
Speaker 2: I don't understand what I'm supposed to understand.
Speaker 1: I guess it's like his dream state, like I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't answer it anymore.
Speaker 2: And then when it then when it blurs, and then
Speaker 2: it's the Old West and it's his see through casket funeral. No, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll wait till we get there, right, run up. And
Speaker 2: my frustration is because I don't get it. That'll get it.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people felt that.
Speaker 2: If I got it, then I might enjoy that half
Speaker 2: of it more. But anyway, I wonder.
Speaker 3: If Jason, while he did this and executed it, was
Speaker 3: like and they're not going to get it. But if
Speaker 3: they don't get it, sorry, it's cool ding ding Like
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody really can answer it actually from it, like
Speaker 2: it'd be like waking up from a dream and then
Speaker 2: being like I must call the person in my dream.
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, it's just a dream.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? I've gon.
Speaker 2: Wait Anyway, I'm frustrated by the episode. I don't hate it,
Speaker 2: but I'm befuddled.
Speaker 3: And can we talk about that? You fell asleep during it?
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 2: Went back and rewatched the whole thing. So I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I watched it two nights ago, and then I went
Speaker 2: back and watched the whole thing. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why I'm so frustrated, because then I really I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be distracted. I'm going to try
Speaker 2: to get this. And I'm like, I don't get it,
Speaker 2: do you No?
Speaker 1: It was just the weirdest departure. It was the whole
Speaker 1: other show.
Speaker 2: Like a sort of another bad show.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least if they if they had had
Speaker 1: the rest of the cast just up in their costumes
Speaker 1: from you know, at the saloon, it would have been.
Speaker 3: That would have been more like breaking afford all those outfits.
Speaker 3: That was too far.
Speaker 2: That would have been like when Brenda found the journal
Speaker 2: and all y'all were playing the characters exactly. So that
Speaker 2: was that. But this is sort of more film noir
Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to understand it or something, and.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, didn't like the spad effect, the tone,
Speaker 1: the black and it was like not black and white,
Speaker 1: it was like cream and white.
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, And then I kind of anyway,
Speaker 2: keep going, I'll just keep being annoyed and annoying everyone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have our hypnotic trance. We see all
Speaker 1: of the Billy, the Billy, the what Billy McCoy. First
Speaker 1: he's the kid.
Speaker 2: And he's bad, right, Like he's like killing robbing people bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: out of law. And then I didn't understand is he
Speaker 2: in love with that woman in the.
Speaker 1: Yeah he beds down with the saloon singer.
Speaker 3: But you know at that point that doesn't see amount
Speaker 3: of character that happens with previously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have respect for the Old West underwear lingerie,
Speaker 2: like that was cute to wearing her like Bloomers.
Speaker 1: I was really cute, but she was I want to
Speaker 1: say she was a panter. Did you guys notice she
Speaker 1: was a hardcore heavy breather after sex, like really couldn't
Speaker 1: catch your breath. After that session, Billy McCoy must be good.
Speaker 3: I was like, who are you?
Speaker 2: That was my problem. I'm like, okay, this is meaning
Speaker 2: it's going to be nothing. Who are you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: They do that all the time, you guys. It be someone.
Speaker 3: We're like, okay, like when they went to Mexico, like,
Speaker 3: is that supposed to be so?
Speaker 1: And it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not even a red harring.
Speaker 1: It's just said.
Speaker 2: Hairing good word. It would have been like, okay, pretend
Speaker 2: that was the law. Like I would have loved it
Speaker 2: if that was Brenda Walshes. Yes, great great great great
Speaker 2: great great grandmother. And it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: oh my, it was what I was waiting for.
Speaker 3: And that wasn't it.
Speaker 1: There was no tie And I'm sorry, Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: somehow responsible I was in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're significant at least, like, at least I
Speaker 2: understand the meaning of having whoever really there, whatever your
Speaker 2: old West name was, Did I have a name?
Speaker 1: What I think?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Actually, and sort of your love And then that I
Speaker 2: could break down and was anybody having Back to the
Speaker 2: Future three where they're like because they don't like Westerns,
Speaker 2: I love Back to the Future when they weighed number
Speaker 2: three in the Old Old West.
Speaker 3: They lost me.
Speaker 2: I was so kind of yeah, it's the same problems
Speaker 2: I have with Back to Future three.
Speaker 1: But I love all of the horses in the in
Speaker 1: the I love the costumes because I say, appreciate like
Speaker 1: all the work that went into them, and by the
Speaker 1: whole crew. They all had to pivot on such a
Speaker 1: hard dime about Wait, what are we doing this week
Speaker 1: in the show?
Speaker 2: And we're sure we're not in the.
Speaker 1: Peach bit serving that burger French fries. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do.
Speaker 3: I'm hungry. Wait, they were probably all psyched, right jan
Speaker 3: like you know, you know you was a little excited
Speaker 3: when you got released from Van Eys.
Speaker 2: So this is it would be nice to be on
Speaker 2: the time in Malbourne. Here's my other annoying thing. It's
Speaker 2: campy Old West, which I'm not a fan of the
Speaker 2: campy Old West, Whereas if you give me realistic Old West.
Speaker 1: Walk the line like I thought it was true, lightly dampy,
Speaker 1: but it tried to be serious and I wish it
Speaker 1: would have gone in one direction to the other.
Speaker 3: Fair fair point, do not tell Jason that you thought
Speaker 3: it was campy and not realistic. He doesn't like camp.
Speaker 1: Oh, what do you mean that he's he's so campy
Speaker 1: his genre directing our show like he does all.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah, I feel like he loves camp.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would call it that word.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think the word he would call it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but those ready.
Speaker 2: Like almost bugs bunny to come out, like.
Speaker 1: The energy that he always brought in with his quote
Speaker 1: unquote campiness are our term, not anyone else's. But it
Speaker 1: was fun like he brought in a fun lighting, an
Speaker 1: energy that. Yeah, but I didn't feel that in this
Speaker 1: episode that I was confused saying it wasn't didn't feel
Speaker 1: like a brand.
Speaker 3: I don't know what was going for that I was.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't understand. And then I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: like lou is this McCoy guy, and then there's this
Speaker 2: partner who I'm like, who is that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Why anyway, I'll shut up because I could talk about
Speaker 2: this all the time because I'm so.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast. The three of the do not
Speaker 3: shut up.
Speaker 2: I keep going because I just all right.
Speaker 1: So we come back from I guess that's our first
Speaker 1: flashy back thing.
Speaker 2: Hypnotic Trance Rights when you're in the in the covered wagon.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: We come back from that teach pit where everything's normal again.
Speaker 1: Briton is there talking about his campaign, and Charlie tells
Speaker 1: Valerie how real the regression therapy is.
Speaker 2: Are you in New York? Get?
Speaker 1: No, not there yet. Billan tells Valerie, we're going to
Speaker 1: Dylantown now. Dylan tells Valerie and Charlie that his regression
Speaker 1: has made him realize that he was going to hell
Speaker 1: until Kelly Taylor come along, came along that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty big statement. Yeah, that's love, you guys. Charlie
Speaker 1: tells him that Dylan and Kelly have a seminal link
Speaker 1: and they are soulmates for life, because Charlie says, trust
Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, go to the wall.
Speaker 3: What seminal means, you guys, because I don't like the
Speaker 3: sound of it.
Speaker 1: But what does it mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or beyond above significant?
Speaker 1: Like very importante, the importante.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are my seminal friends. That works just
Speaker 3: sounds gross.
Speaker 1: Okay, move on, what because it sounds a little bit
Speaker 1: like semen? Is that where your mind is going?
Speaker 3: Obviously? You know where my mind always goes?
Speaker 1: Okay, while Charles Valery asks Brandon in this is she's
Speaker 1: smoking pot, right, This girl is crazy. She's smoking pot
Speaker 1: thro the window. She thinks that death doesn't stink up
Speaker 1: the entire house. I'm hard to tell you it does.
Speaker 2: Is this the you've never touched me? Conversation?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I can't, I actually cannot.
Speaker 1: They've never touched before? Why?
Speaker 2: I was like, what what?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What like hugged?
Speaker 3: Like you never hugged?
Speaker 1: Like no, she she spells it out. She's like, we
Speaker 1: never even high five. Yeah, it was so weird that
Speaker 1: she wants she wants to touchy, she wants can we
Speaker 1: dispect that? You guys? Why have didn't they touch?
Speaker 3: But first of all, exactly grown up together?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sorry, like he just moved in recently. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking about before. Yeah, they grew up together.
Speaker 3: How many she's supposed to our same age? Correct? Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they're alluding to But okay, so you're telling me
Speaker 3: that Brandon and Valerie when they were young family all
Speaker 3: grew up together, never played doctor.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, It's it's just so weird though, Jenny. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: who says that to someone their friends with? Like, I
Speaker 2: am very very close with your manager, Randy. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine if Randy and I are sitting at lunch and
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, Randy, we've never touched. I
Speaker 2: think he would run out of.
Speaker 3: There so fast. No, he would not.
Speaker 1: You would say, well, let's touch.
Speaker 3: But I can't believe that's the reference.
Speaker 1: You just made. Let me let me get this straight
Speaker 1: and admire at lunch.
Speaker 2: I just for clarity, your hair is looking exactly the
Speaker 2: way it is now.
Speaker 3: And for clarity, Randy, or do you think you're in
Speaker 3: your tank top? You looks great in the top, by
Speaker 3: the way, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: I actually am. But but we this is this is
Speaker 2: not about me.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so we're at lunch, Amy and you reach out
Speaker 2: and touch me. No, I'm just gonna tell you. We've
Speaker 2: been friends for five years and you you've never touched.
Speaker 2: It was so weird and gaggy. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: to do with myself. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would probably give you.
Speaker 4: A hug at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's what brand.
Speaker 3: That's what brand too.
Speaker 2: But if I were branded, and I have a girlfriend
Speaker 2: who I love, and this sort of seductress Charla, I
Speaker 2: happened to have a Jack and Jill bathroom with says to.
Speaker 1: Me, Brandon sees her at that at all that he
Speaker 1: doesn't he's got like blinders on when it comes to
Speaker 1: bew Then.
Speaker 2: It's even weirder that she's like, we've never touched.
Speaker 3: He's not a male, Like, come on, you know he's branded.
Speaker 2: But he'd be like touch where, touch where like and
Speaker 2: they have.
Speaker 3: No God like, literally what this girl is insinuating?
Speaker 2: Like this is why not.
Speaker 1: Insinuating that she wants to be touched on her Yes
Speaker 1: she was Jenny, Yes she was not an invitation.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was what she wanted to hug you guys, Jenny, Jenny.
Speaker 3: If someone called Tiffany right now, if he literally would have.
Speaker 2: Said, do you want me to touch you right now?
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, that's probably what would have actually happened
Speaker 1: in real life, but I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here is my hot take.
Speaker 2: Everybody can be mad as mad as they are about
Speaker 2: my Andrea should be with Dylan take. Here's my hot
Speaker 2: take about Valerie, not Tiffany. Valerie, she actually has no game.
Speaker 2: She's she's pretty, she's smart, she's clever, but she doesn't
Speaker 2: have game. That's why she's so bad at all of
Speaker 2: these relationships.
Speaker 1: She's oh wait, wait, wait, wait if she had game,
Speaker 1: what you're saying now, if she had game in that moment,
Speaker 1: how would she had handled it differently?
Speaker 2: Way more subtle and accidental bump into it like a
Speaker 2: bronchial bathroom. Oh sorry, you know, leaning over with a
Speaker 2: little bit of a maybe a whatever booby shock cleavan
Speaker 2: something at the dinner to very subtle.
Speaker 3: Him slowly over time, like he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have game and I stand.
Speaker 3: By me, or in the middle of the night, you
Speaker 3: just slip into the bed, you know, and they don't
Speaker 3: know who it is or where you are, and that
Speaker 3: would be level. So wait when I go back to this,
Speaker 3: I love that you say she doesn't have games. She
Speaker 3: so she plays games very well access but she doesn't
Speaker 3: have game. Well, she's a manipulator, you're right, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: she doesn't have game.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I will I would have
Speaker 1: to say that there, she has a lot more game
Speaker 1: than a lot of other people. Like I think people
Speaker 1: watching the show are like, oh man, that's not game.
Speaker 3: But take notes, we've never touched my.
Speaker 2: Take on it is she's just a aggressively forward like
Speaker 2: she doesn't actually have games. She's not mysterious she's not.
Speaker 2: She's not flirty. She's the aggressively forward. Hey, Ray, I'll
Speaker 2: give you a spot at the Peapad if you just
Speaker 2: sleep with me at this weird hotel I live in.
Speaker 3: It's just like, you're right, and then when it doesn't
Speaker 3: go well, she just threatens to take something down in
Speaker 3: your life.
Speaker 2: She doesn't that game.
Speaker 1: She's young, you guys. She's got to grow into her
Speaker 1: game because she's got the brains. She's got the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true, good.
Speaker 1: Point, She's going to grow into it, make lots of money.
Speaker 2: Okay, she would be served well by just doing nothing
Speaker 2: and just being her smart clever even if she's evil
Speaker 2: and evil genius, she's too weird.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys a question, where do you believe?
Speaker 3: If you both had to answer, Valerie Malone is currently
Speaker 3: like what happened?
Speaker 2: Okay, so knowing only what we know, knowing only what
Speaker 2: we know till now, not factoring in the next because
Speaker 2: Jenny is not going to be able to do it right.
Speaker 2: We have to just do it if we only know
Speaker 2: what we know now, because Jenny can't remember what happens
Speaker 2: to her. Okay, good question, Jenny, you go first.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, she's probably still on the club circuit, like
Speaker 1: promoting clubs in LA and she's just tired out and
Speaker 1: has a house in the hills. Maybe. I don't know, you.
Speaker 3: Don't think maybe she's a madam O.
Speaker 1: See I was gonna say that, but I didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see the worst.
Speaker 2: I think she's running a tech company that at any
Speaker 2: moment is going to have trouble with like tax of Oh,
Speaker 2: like the Bad Blood lady, you know that lady. She's
Speaker 2: like that where she was running a company saying we
Speaker 2: can test your blood with one.
Speaker 3: Draw yea, but really it didn't work.
Speaker 2: She's doing that like she's saying I've got this device
Speaker 2: and it's going to change the world and it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Well genius, yeah she is. But what about personally in relationships?
Speaker 3: She's single?
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's had three married she wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with three divorces? There? I mean I'm only
Speaker 1: technical too, but okay, well, you know I think she doesn't.
Speaker 1: She's still they have two divorces. That's the difference, Oh,
Speaker 1: thim or just don't even try. No, she's gonna be easier.
Speaker 2: She's got kids and they're ok. She's definitely got kids,
Speaker 2: and they're all messed up because they're being raised by
Speaker 2: a narcissist.
Speaker 3: Maybe she has one kids.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this anymore. We got
Speaker 1: to get back to the show. Okay, come on, the
Speaker 1: people that love Valley are going to hate this episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we uh we see them hug and it's really weird.
Speaker 2: We go to the beach, weird.
Speaker 1: Claire and David are excited to go with Donna Bowling,
Speaker 1: but then they see that raise going.
Speaker 2: That was a good scene.
Speaker 1: I liked it you too.
Speaker 2: That was a good scene because you were cute, Tory
Speaker 2: and you were kind of not getting it and Ray
Speaker 2: gets it. And I respect David and Claire for being like,
Speaker 2: we got Betsy's That was a good scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes, I don't even know anybody named Betsy.
Speaker 2: Claire is a good fake actor because at first, when
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, what about the surprise, buddy, we gotta go,
Speaker 2: it wasn't It was good fake acting.
Speaker 3: Wait, that voice was amazing. I've never heard you do
Speaker 3: that voice.
Speaker 1: That was a good scene. We're gonna go to New
Speaker 1: York City now with the world's worst backdrop of New
Speaker 1: York City if you noticed in the background, I've never
Speaker 1: seen a worse backdrop. What's that called the backdrop? Is
Speaker 1: it called a backdrop? M yeah, it's got something else,
Speaker 1: you know, that thing they put out besides, like you know,
Speaker 1: when you have a set and like on trends, when
Speaker 1: they look out onto the naked neighbors house, that's not
Speaker 1: real that that's a screen scrim the screen scrim. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyways, it was terrible. It looked like
Speaker 1: right out of like like what they do outside our
Speaker 1: beach apartment. And then she pulls something down that yes,
Speaker 1: they pull down exactly. So what happens next, Let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see Kelly, Kelly and Steve come back.
Speaker 1: Kelly finds out she's got a million messages from Dylan.
Speaker 2: And uh oh, that was unhinged.
Speaker 1: It was so odd her reaction to all the messages.
Speaker 1: And then Steve says, you guys, don't have anything going.
Speaker 1: You don't have anything going with this guy again, do you?
Speaker 1: And she says no, and then she gets in the
Speaker 1: weirdest little look. And I'm not sure what that looked meant,
Speaker 1: because it looked very like conniving or almost like something
Speaker 1: I don't know it was weird. Well, I can't help it.
Speaker 3: It just comes out on your face because you're in
Speaker 3: love with him.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: I agree with Toy because I think we needed that
Speaker 2: look so that at the end of the episode it
Speaker 2: tracked a little bit more than instead of Kelly being like, bro,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You know like that. So I
Speaker 2: felt like some of that was intentional and that you're
Speaker 2: not like you're not even bothered by the twenty messages
Speaker 2: or that he's like, call me right when you get home,
Speaker 2: like it's all seems very normal to you, whereas in
Speaker 2: reality a person would be like, why is my ex
Speaker 2: boyfriend leaving twenty messages here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Because they still love each other, correct, I mean there's.
Speaker 3: People that being a good friend to Brandon, he doesn't
Speaker 3: give a oh. He just he's like, oh, well, I'm
Speaker 3: still jealous because I'm still in love with her.
Speaker 2: Dylan is a terrible friend to Brandon in love with
Speaker 2: Kelly Taylor, yes, And they're terrible friends and terrible friends
Speaker 2: to each other. And I hate to say Kelly's not
Speaker 2: a good girlfriend.
Speaker 1: No, she's not being very She just can never be
Speaker 1: a good girlfriend. I think ever since the fire, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just say this. Ever since the fire, things have
Speaker 1: changed for Kelly, But look at how she grew up, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, she was not I mean.
Speaker 3: She was kissing a lot in her heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was kissing Dylan in the pool when Brenda
Speaker 2: was away, and I understand it was a little fuzzier,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't that fuzzy.
Speaker 3: She's a great She's a really good person. She's conflicted,
Speaker 3: and I understand, like, oh, to have these like great gut,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm not having to. I mean they're
Speaker 3: kind of great, like you can't lose either way, Dylan
Speaker 3: or Branded. I mean, theoretically they're great.
Speaker 1: They're theoretically they're great, but we've all seen them have
Speaker 1: they're not so great qualities true on the show. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about like, yeah, watching them go, you know,
Speaker 1: do make their decisions. I feel like she's kind of
Speaker 1: in that same place right now too. But that's where
Speaker 1: people are when they're young, like that, they make mistakes,
Speaker 1: they have to they have to learn from.
Speaker 3: Them when they're young.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue fourth, shall we. Brandon is back at
Speaker 1: the CEO there, back again in the college turmoil. I
Speaker 1: mean that was weird. This whole thing is just weird,
Speaker 1: and because of the tuition increases. Janie tells him that
Speaker 1: his chances of getting re elected or low, I mean
Speaker 1: chance of any of us caring are very very very low.
Speaker 2: Very low. And also, what student body president wouldn't get
Speaker 2: elected because something like the Capitol Sacramento was raising the taxes?
Speaker 1: Who was governor Brandon's supposed to jump in and.
Speaker 2: Have controlling this? Oh yeah, who was the governor of
Speaker 2: California in are we in ninety five?
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter because Valerie steps in and tells Branda,
Speaker 1: but she would love to help him with his campaign.
Speaker 3: People help him.
Speaker 1: She would really love to touch his candid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was weird, Bill him is what I heard?
Speaker 2: That was so weird too, Like huh huh.
Speaker 3: Tially, he's not going to move on you guys. I
Speaker 3: hate the storyline so much. I don't want to continue.
Speaker 2: I'm believing it. And Pete Wilson was the king.
Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about the cu presidency at all.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to hear you say the word
Speaker 1: see you again. I can't believe he did that. It's
Speaker 1: just it's all of it, really triggers me.
Speaker 2: Out of nowhere. The guy who gave him the cake
Speaker 2: was a rite in candidate and is now president.
Speaker 1: That's not not out of nowhere. That's that's that's the
Speaker 1: guy that's been his like sort of competitor all along.
Speaker 2: Isn't it because that many people were watching the cable
Speaker 2: college television station that they became fully informed of the
Speaker 2: tuition hike and they changed their vote.
Speaker 3: At the cu No, they all were watching their TV
Speaker 3: from their couch and then they all started talking, went
Speaker 3: to the kitchen, got snacks and drinks during that scene,
Speaker 3: and then came back. That's what happened.
Speaker 1: No, that's what you did when you were watching the show.
Speaker 2: That whole storyline was so. And then fast forward and
Speaker 2: so the weird party, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Here we go back to Dylan's house, where Dylan begs
Speaker 1: Mollie to take him back in time because he wants
Speaker 1: to find out what happened between him and old West.
Speaker 2: Kelly, I also have a flag on this. Have you
Speaker 2: ever had a dream that you love You're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm making out with Patrick Dempsey in my dream,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I need to fall back asleep and
Speaker 2: continue that never happened.
Speaker 3: Never, But let's talk about that later because I'm intrigued
Speaker 3: and you know, fall back asleep, and now.
Speaker 1: He's try and go back to the same This isn't
Speaker 1: a dream, This isn't a dream, this is no fair, correct.
Speaker 3: Right, so he can easily go back. He just pays
Speaker 3: her more and goes back.
Speaker 2: Cool, So we go back to.
Speaker 1: Cowboy. Yeah, nice sign up. Dylan sees himself at church
Speaker 1: with Kelly on your tap. A bad guy comes to
Speaker 1: tell Billy that Dixie is in trouble and he needs
Speaker 1: to save her. So Billy McCoy goes to save the
Speaker 1: saloon singer.
Speaker 2: But he had a new name. You called him like
Speaker 2: Sebastopol or something.
Speaker 3: What I remember this, yeah, Sebastian.
Speaker 2: So I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: Why did she change his name?
Speaker 2: Because he was he was trying to change his identity.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to be gunsling and Billy McCoy so
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what you called him, but it
Speaker 2: was weird, and it was something like sebast to some thing.
Speaker 3: We didn't want to be called.
Speaker 1: And you cann't understand because of this, well, you couldn't understand.
Speaker 1: My old West accent.
Speaker 2: Had a little bit of a British Old West accent,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: And that is messed up, you guys, because they're literally like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just do it with an accent. You're like, wait what,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that? O couch try right?
Speaker 3: When you do like feature films, you guys, actress get
Speaker 3: training and dialect coaches. And then they were probably to
Speaker 3: you like they probably didn't put in the script and
Speaker 3: the day of they were like, hey, by the way, Ken,
Speaker 3: just do an old you bought this god two.
Speaker 1: Kids and the boys were adorable by the way, the
Speaker 1: little boys.
Speaker 2: You know how the young kids say it's giving, it's giving.
Speaker 2: It was really giving back to the future three for me,
Speaker 2: like a lot of future out.
Speaker 1: So Dylan eventually tells Mollie that his mom took him
Speaker 1: to a poem reader once who told him he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna live long.
Speaker 2: That was uncomfortable too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this whole part was uncomfortable and emotional because I
Speaker 1: they why do they keep doing this? It doesn't keep
Speaker 1: happening with any other character, but there's something about this
Speaker 1: Dylan character that they keep writing these like near death
Speaker 1: experiences or premonitions, and it's so hard to watch Like
Speaker 1: I never even realized, did you tour that like we
Speaker 1: would that we would be watching this and like just
Speaker 1: suddenly like yeah, because he's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's like we have to keep living through something that
Speaker 3: we didn't want to have to live through and we
Speaker 3: had to, and.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's awful. It's like a weird I don't
Speaker 1: know what what why is this happening?
Speaker 2: Well at the time, it probably didn't seem noticeable, but
Speaker 2: now it's all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you rewatch it and you're just multiple times
Speaker 3: though it keeps happening, it's really strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah. AnyWho, that was therapy needed after that episode. But
Speaker 1: back at the Pea Pad, this is this the party.
Speaker 1: This is the party where nobody's party waw party, even
Speaker 1: Jim and Cindy are gluming.
Speaker 2: Oh and Jim's random storyline about his work that was
Speaker 2: also hard to follow that, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, wait, what's happening there? Bring about something and.
Speaker 2: It's all setting us up for their departure. But it's
Speaker 2: like he's weird, he's got work proms, he wasn't included
Speaker 2: in a meeting.
Speaker 1: And it was like a double banger too, because we
Speaker 1: were getting warned about their upcoming departure, and we're getting
Speaker 1: like information about Andre and upcoming departure.
Speaker 2: So there's trouble as a f at Jim's work. He's
Speaker 2: not included in the big meetings and he almost resigned
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: Just like what and you know what, it's given him
Speaker 1: a headache.
Speaker 2: It's giving him a splitting Did she say he has
Speaker 2: a splitting headache?
Speaker 3: Wait? In one false swoop they take away four main characters.
Speaker 1: Correct. At the end of the season, yes, wow, three
Speaker 1: ogs like.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we learned that Hungaria's dude can't we're moving forward.
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2: Is this where we learn about Yale? Is this where
Speaker 2: we get the Yale info? Two?
Speaker 1: Yes, Yale, that they're going to go off to Yale? Probably,
Speaker 1: But Brandon's really bummed that he lost the election, rightly so,
Speaker 1: because he loves wearing those suits.
Speaker 3: I don't know where he's gonna wear those now. I
Speaker 3: hope he retires. That was like someone to buy them
Speaker 3: on eBay.
Speaker 1: That suit was like that like boxy oh, like from
Speaker 1: the Mask you know that movie you carry That's such
Speaker 1: a great.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jenny, that's so accurate.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that era was.
Speaker 2: That's so accurate. I feel like that oversized suit is
Speaker 2: coming back. Justin Timberlake's been wearing like a suit that
Speaker 2: seems three sizes too big, and I noticed that's sort
Speaker 2: of around.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people are losing a
Speaker 1: lot of weight, so everything looks big up, especially suits.
Speaker 3: It's one of those fashion trends that it's this era
Speaker 3: of the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I do enjoy that, Like the thin
Speaker 1: eyebrows that all the girls are having. No, I kind
Speaker 1: of like it.
Speaker 3: I like it too, but well, you're okay, but none
Speaker 3: of the rest of us are okay, Like we never
Speaker 3: could come back from it.
Speaker 2: I used to have amazing eyebrows, and now I have
Speaker 2: this because of you.
Speaker 3: Too at you but so mad about it.
Speaker 2: I should show you as a picture of my college eyebrows.
Speaker 1: I want to see.
Speaker 2: You're so much better. I actually just had one because
Speaker 2: it's to pull a picture for someone's fiftieth They're so
Speaker 2: much better your own. No, I had to find a
Speaker 2: picture of my friend Lisa, so look so much better.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that you on the left? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in the orange yep. Wow. Yeah, those are just
Speaker 1: some good brows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you guys ruined them, like literally, you.
Speaker 3: Dance came back like mine. I had good ones too,
Speaker 3: and I was so ashamed of them, like the first
Speaker 3: couple of seasons, and then the you know, plucking trend.
Speaker 3: I'm told I'm not supposed to say plucking. That's what
Speaker 3: you do to a chicken. The tweezing of them. Mine
Speaker 3: just never came back. That was it done for life.
Speaker 3: I tell my daughters all the time, don't ever touch
Speaker 3: your eyebrows. Yeah, seriously, because it's like the friends, they're
Speaker 3: going to change.
Speaker 4: Just keep them.
Speaker 1: Me too, me too, they have such beautiful eyebrows. Let's
Speaker 1: see where were we? Kelly uh calls Brandon at the
Speaker 1: at the pea patch. She calls him and says, Brandon,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I wasn't there to say. That was
Speaker 1: so weird you lost the presidency. I'm really tired by.
Speaker 2: Right, you're literally back at the beach apartment, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: really tired. I'm jet lagged on your weird cordless phone bye.
Speaker 3: And then not getting Dylan right now.
Speaker 2: She has to like knock, knock, knock at a knock
Speaker 2: and this is this had me shook.
Speaker 1: H he's been thinking about her a lot, and he
Speaker 1: looks at her like he wants to eat her.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I loved this moment. I wanted him to
Speaker 3: eat you. You pretty much did, and your friend.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand why they're making out what about
Speaker 1: Brandon's exactly?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jenny. It's so confused, it's so great. It's
Speaker 2: weird cool.
Speaker 3: Well to go with things.
Speaker 1: This is the best, like the great, These are the
Speaker 1: These are the kind of like end of episode moments
Speaker 1: that I love about the show where you're like, what
Speaker 1: is happening? And then you can't wait to watch it again.
Speaker 2: Well, correct, because it's leading us up to one of
Speaker 2: the most iconic lines in nine o two one OHO
Speaker 2: history cracked.
Speaker 1: Because she is getting real conflicted here. This is I'm
Speaker 1: not working out for Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you guys, I think we've got to wrap
Speaker 3: this up. Amy, your hair's gonna fall.
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't. I'm gonna go take a shower.
Speaker 2: But I could talk about this episode. I could do
Speaker 2: literally a whole nother hour.
Speaker 1: What do you give it?
Speaker 3: What do you rate it?
Speaker 2: Back? I'm going to be shocking with my rating.
Speaker 1: You did not like it, but you yet you want
Speaker 1: to talk about it more.
Speaker 2: I'm giving it a ten.
Speaker 1: What No, no, No, that's the producer in her.
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. It's got me so fired up.
Speaker 2: The West part was half of it totally peculiar that
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to watch six more times
Speaker 2: to try to analyze and take a class on. And
Speaker 2: then there was bombs being dropped, you guys, the Valerie stuff,
Speaker 2: the Andrea and Jesse stuff, the Jim and Cindy stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kelly Taylor's making out with Dylan McKay at
Speaker 2: the end of the episode. That's a ten in itself.
Speaker 1: That, right, A lot of a lot of stuff happens.
Speaker 2: And it has lost the presidency, like we've got the contra. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's touching the gout the conflict now with David and
Speaker 2: Claire being in the know on something and using it
Speaker 2: against right. I mean, the whole thing is like.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's a juicy you like juicy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a forny weird episode also, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's weird. I'm totally here for it.
Speaker 1: It is good. I like it. I'm right up there
Speaker 1: with you. And now that you talk me out of
Speaker 1: my like six, I'm gonna go up to a nine.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to.
Speaker 3: Hear it well a nine, okay? Will you both talked
Speaker 3: me out of my seven? And I'm only giving it
Speaker 3: a seven point five because of the end moment of
Speaker 3: Kelly and Dylan kissing. Sorry, actually I'll give it an
Speaker 3: eight for that just based on that, because that was everything.
Speaker 2: Here's what I want to know through our astute commentary.
Speaker 2: Is anybody listening changing their mind about it being the
Speaker 2: worst episode ever? Like now they're really breaking it down.
Speaker 2: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear from you guys us.
Speaker 2: You can't hate this episode.
Speaker 3: It's filled with gold, filled with week gold.
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