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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It has been a hectic week in Washington as we've

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Speaker 2: been watching all of these hearings, and the first hearing

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Speaker 2: that we were watching, we had Pete Hegseth who was

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Speaker 2: these this harassment. And then he had a bit of

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Speaker 2: a champion of his own in Senator Mark Wayne Mullen

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Speaker 2: from the great state of Oklahoma, and we have him

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Speaker 2: here with us today. Senator, thank you for joining me,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. So I think that you

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Speaker 2: said things that we were all thinking, and I just

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Speaker 2: want to and even things that people haven't actually said

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Speaker 2: out loud. So I want to play one of the

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Speaker 2: clips from the hearing that you talked about qualifications, and

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Speaker 2: I think it is so key because we go through

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Speaker 2: these elections every two years or every six years.

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Speaker 1: And how much do you really know about somebody?

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Speaker 2: But then these guys just get grilled in the public

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Speaker 2: for three.

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Speaker 1: Hours and sometimes a second time.

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Speaker 2: So first I want to play this clip, and then

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Speaker 2: I want to get to your reaction to what people

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Speaker 3: I'm just making a point because there's a lot about

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Speaker 3: on the other side. I'll be talking about his qualifications

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Speaker 3: not going to lead the secretary or be the Secretary

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Speaker 3: of Defense, and yet your qualifications aren't any better. You

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Speaker 3: guys aren't any more qualified to be the Senator than

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Speaker 3: I'm qualified to be the centaer. E said, we're lucky

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Speaker 2: I mean, such a good point that you said, But

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Speaker 2: we're lucky enough to be here because it is an

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Speaker 2: honor to serve in that role. And Senator, I'm so

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Speaker 2: appreciative that you are here today with us to talk

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Speaker 2: about this, but nobody really says that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it was frustrating to me, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: in there with a set of questions that was really

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Speaker 3: to give Pete an opportunity to reset, because we knew

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Speaker 3: he was going to be attacked. We knew that they

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Speaker 3: were going to go after his past. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: they were going to try to set themselves up on

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Speaker 3: this moral high ground, which is absolutely ridiculous, which I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying I'm more moral than anybody else. I'm part

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Speaker 3: my share of mistakes and I'm just by grace of

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Speaker 3: God that I'm able to be here. But but the

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Speaker 3: fact that they were setting themselves up changed my direction

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Speaker 3: because when originally we were just gonna, you know, have

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Speaker 3: some softball questions for him, all allow Pete to really

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Speaker 3: ready for the next attack. But when they were going

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Speaker 3: after qualifications, I'm going, what are the qualifications to be

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Speaker 3: a senator? You got to live within your state, You've

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Speaker 3: got to be a certain age, and you got to

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Speaker 3: qualification of the sect Deaf Secretary of Defense, all you

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Speaker 3: so where were they headed with that? It just frustrated

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Speaker 3: he is qualified. That's really all that matters.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Pete was making the point that why

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Speaker 2: these generals. We didn't have this many generals in World

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Speaker 2: this when you have Secretary Austin who just botched the

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Speaker 2: Afghanistan withdrawal, so all of the qualifications that he had didn't.

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Speaker 1: Get us anywhere. We ended up with thirteen service members dead.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Pete did make a good point because

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Speaker 3: We need something different, and Pete fits that Mold and

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Speaker 3: the American people, by the way, said they wanted something different.

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Speaker 3: That's why they put President Trump.

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Speaker 1: In office exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they've been The American people have

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Speaker 2: go back to the stuff about Secretary Austin and where

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Speaker 2: this whole situation where it really seems financially completely out

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Speaker 2: of control. Interestingly, Secretary Austin served on the board of Raytheon.

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Speaker 2: It's a very strange situation because you have somebody who

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Speaker 1: I want to play this clip too, because this is

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Speaker 3: Questions that that the senator from from Massachusetts brought up

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Speaker 3: yet your own secretaries, you all voted for Secretary of Austin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not like serving on the board

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Speaker 2: This is serving on the board of an organization that

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Speaker 3: That's right. Once again called out the hypocrisy of the

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Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You make such a great point

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Speaker 2: when you talk about the hypocrisy. That's what we've been

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Speaker 2: I think people need to fully understand something You mentioned that.

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Speaker 1: I just thought, yeah, we really have to kind of

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Speaker 2: this is where you should go.

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Speaker 1: You should be at the top. He was plucked from

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Speaker 2: And when I'm hearing things like this tiny little nut

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Speaker 2: We've spent money we should not have spent. This is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are stories about brooms, regular brooms that you

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we get the cheapest price? Why are we

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Speaker 2: Well, and Senator Warren, who's out there saying, will you

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Speaker 3: So here it is the Senator for Virginia starts bringing

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Speaker 3: But it's for show, you guys. Make sure you make

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Speaker 1: But that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 2: They want to humiliate someone instead of really get to

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Speaker 3: Well, this here wasn't about substance or about vision for

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Speaker 3: It was a character assassination. The tip that they were

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Speaker 3: But what was frustrating to me about this is here Genny.

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Speaker 3: thought I did something really bad because her phone was

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Speaker 3: bleeding or was blowing up the work watched is. She

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Speaker 3: called me back and she said thank you because I'd

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Speaker 3: want the same thing to be done for me. And

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Speaker 3: I said, I said, Christy, that is what drove me

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Speaker 3: to say it, because I've got to know Pete and

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Speaker 3: I've got to know Jennifer over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 3: and uh, she has the same characteristics as my wife,

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Speaker 3: that is, that's willing to look past my faults and

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Speaker 3: still love me because of it. And I don't why

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Speaker 3: I deserve that. I don't, but I but I accept it.

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Speaker 3: But that was that was what got me probably upset

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Speaker 3: the most, is just they were doing this in front

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Speaker 3: of his wife.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Senator, don't you think that a

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Speaker 2: lot of this has to do with they're so angry

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Speaker 2: at Donald Trump and Donald Trump bringing in people that

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Speaker 2: aren't a part of their team. And by their team,

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Speaker 2: I even mean, I just mean the Washington DC team.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yes, they have he went and he abided

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Speaker 2: by those rules more so in his first term, where

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Speaker 2: he brought in people that were you know, they were

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Speaker 2: more of the Washington type. And this time he just said,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in whoever I feel comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's when I ran for office, people

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Speaker 2: said find the ten people you trust the most.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the campaign, you'll trust five of them.

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Speaker 2: And that's I mean, you're lucky if you get five,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it is a cutthroat. I actually was

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Speaker 2: watching Designated Survivor with my eleven year old the other

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Speaker 2: day and you get in and you see it's exactly

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Speaker 2: like everybody's kind of scheming behind his back, right, And

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Speaker 2: she goes, is this what your job is? Like?

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Speaker 1: Why would you want to live like this?

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Speaker 2: And I thought that's so funny because that is what

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Speaker 2: Washington is like, and they don't like the fact that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is doing something different to change that. So

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Speaker 2: the Tallsia Gabbards and the Pan Bondies and the Pete

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Speaker 2: Hagsas of the world are now going to get the

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Speaker 2: rath that they want to put on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: But they just have to make it.

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Speaker 2: They have to keep this narrative going that anybody who

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Speaker 2: is not us is bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'd listen. I've met some really, really, really

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Speaker 3: outstanding individuals. I think that's been my biggest surprise is

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Speaker 3: there's outstanding individuals inside politics, But unfortunately the ones that

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Speaker 3: get all the news are willing to, as I say,

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Speaker 3: hurt you a lot to gain a little. They're willing

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Speaker 3: to absolutely destroy you to have thirty seconds of fame

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Speaker 3: and it can destroy everything in your life along the way,

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Speaker 3: just as long as they're willing to get that moment

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Speaker 3: on TV. And right now what you're seeing with the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Party, I don't even believe that they believe what

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Speaker 3: they're saying. They're just it's all for show. It's all

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Speaker 3: just trying to get that sound bite, it's all just

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Speaker 3: trying to get on news. It's all just trying to

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Speaker 3: get CNN or MSNBC to play their clip over and

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Speaker 3: over again to show that c I'm fighting for you

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Speaker 3: because what's happened in the Democrat Party right now is

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Speaker 3: they realize there's no leadership left, there's no bench left.

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Speaker 3: I mean when they're two top candidates was Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: who they had been covering for for years because his

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Speaker 3: cognitive behavior, and yet they still thought he was the

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Speaker 3: best one to run against uh President Trump. But then

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Speaker 3: they realize he can't even debate, and so their second

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Speaker 3: was Kamala Harris, who came in what wentieth in the primary,

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Speaker 3: the only primary that she ran in. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just it absolutely absurd that they even thought that

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Speaker 3: she'd be the person. However, since there is no backup,

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Speaker 3: there is no leadership. Now you're seeing all these senators

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Speaker 3: that are jocking for four years from now. They're trying

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Speaker 3: to fight because there's no bench left. They're trying to

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Speaker 3: become the next inherit crown Prince or Crown princess to

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Speaker 3: become the candidate for the Democrat Party. Remember, because the

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Speaker 3: Democrats actually don't have open primaries anymore for the president

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Speaker 3: of grades right, I haven't had that I guess Obama

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Speaker 3: kind of Obama clin that was an open primary in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, but after

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Speaker 3: that they haven't had an open primary. It's it was

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Speaker 3: cooked beforehand Hillary, it was cooked for Hillary, it was

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Speaker 3: cooked for Biden, and it was cooked this time for

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Speaker 3: Biden slash hairs.

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Speaker 2: Well. And it's interesting that you say that because I

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Speaker 2: think obviously the sad situation that we've seen out of

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Speaker 2: California that has really I mean, everybody's saying Knewsome Stune,

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Speaker 2: how could he ever come back from this? The governors

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Speaker 2: that rode on the bus during the campaign that were

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Speaker 2: so corny with these weird, unprofessional videos, And I think

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Speaker 2: that I think you make a great point. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: something different from that, and I think there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of clownery, and the Democrat Party thought that that

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Speaker 2: was the culture of the time, was to go out

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Speaker 2: there and the more the goofy or you wore, the

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Speaker 2: more young people believed in you and you could get

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Speaker 2: them on your side.

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Speaker 1: That wiped out a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: For contending for twenty eight because they made such fools

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Speaker 2: of themselves. So I think what you're you're describing is

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Speaker 2: sort of having people that do have one foot in

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Speaker 2: a trap. They know that they're injured, and they're trying

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Speaker 2: to make their their mark, still feeling the pain of

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Speaker 2: the trap from twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Right, they're trying to separate themselves. Do you know what's

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Speaker 3: telling sign that what they're trying to do isn't hitting

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Speaker 3: the mark. When Caitlin on CNN UH had had Elizabeth

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Speaker 3: Warren on Tuesday night, I was on there before Elizabeth

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Speaker 3: and she she pointed out that I don't think you're

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Speaker 3: questioning hit the mark. I think I think it backfired.

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Speaker 3: It didn't. It didn't go over the way that you

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Speaker 3: guys were expecting it to go over American people. Even

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Speaker 3: if a Democrat, if Democrats are even saying that, if

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Speaker 3: even CNN is saying that that you're you're going down

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Speaker 3: the wrong track, that ought to tell you need to

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Speaker 3: rethink your strategy moving moving forward. And don't don't don't

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Speaker 3: think for a second that Elizabeth Warren is going to

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Speaker 3: go work in any type of private sector her. She's

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Speaker 3: either going to stay in office until she has to

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Speaker 3: be carried out or she wants to go to the

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Speaker 3: White House, God forbid. But she's a career politician.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, I think what we're seeing as a Democrat

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Speaker 2: party that is trying to figure out what its identity

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Speaker 2: is they had gotten you.

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Speaker 3: Have an identity crisis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to figure out their gender right now.

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Speaker 3: So much we could we have a whost show just

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean I say that with the.

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Speaker 2: Mindset of understanding that this has happened to Republicans too.

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Speaker 2: There is a time when your party can push party

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Speaker 2: messaging can push a lot of people into a place

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Speaker 2: that they think, well, I'm not comfortable, but this is

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Speaker 2: what the people want, until they finally get smacked in

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Speaker 2: the face and the people go, that's never what we wanted.

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Speaker 2: But you can be cajoled into believing that that's where

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Speaker 2: the country is. And I think that's what happened to them,

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Speaker 2: And I don't make fun of them for it, because

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Speaker 2: I think it can happen to the other side too.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it happen to the other side. But that

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Speaker 1: is why it's.

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Speaker 2: Important that people in Washington and time around the people

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Speaker 2: in their state.

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Speaker 3: That's right, well, the identity it can happen to any

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Speaker 3: one of us. Anytime you think you're high and mighty,

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Speaker 3: You're you're you're just ready to be proven you're not.

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Speaker 3: I always tell people when things are going good in

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Speaker 3: your company, you start you better start looking for change

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Speaker 3: and looking for the hole in the tire because things

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Speaker 3: are going to go off rail pretty quick. But what

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Speaker 3: I was referring to by identity crisis is this is

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Speaker 3: the party that can't figure out how many genders there are?

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Speaker 3: Right sorry, that for four years couldn't answer the question

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Speaker 3: of if you're a male or female and couldn't and

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Speaker 3: and what how many different pronouns did they come up with?

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Speaker 3: And That's what I'm meaning by identity crisis. And the

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Speaker 3: American people got fed up with that, and that's why

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Speaker 3: they're having identity crisis because they started with the identity.

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Speaker 1: Is Another viral moment when Senator she said, how many

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Speaker 1: generals are I know because I'm a she he that

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Speaker 1: was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are so grateful for what you guys do

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Speaker 2: out there every day.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you are one of.

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Speaker 2: The unique folks in Washington that also still manages life

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Speaker 2: and career and business at home. So you take real

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Speaker 2: life experience and it's not just career politician for you,

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Speaker 2: and we are grateful. I think we have to call

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Speaker 2: that out when we see it. We're grateful because you

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Speaker 2: are the person that is bringing that common sense to

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Speaker 2: Washington every day and it is much needed.

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Speaker 3: I stay humbled by my wife and kids.

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Speaker 1: Kids will do that to you, right, bring me down

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Speaker 1: every single day.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Come moment I realize I'm I'm just a dad.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And your kids are never going to let you

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Speaker 2: get a big head. That's the beauty of it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm putting on ball gowns to for inauguration and putting

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Speaker 2: them on and the girls like, oh, your stomach looks huge,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Today today right before the show, my daughter who's six team,

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Speaker 3: she said it to a big she wrestles ill fame

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Speaker 3: to wrestle. So my boys wrestled to at Oklahoma State

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Speaker 3: one at University of Oklahoma, and my girls that are

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Speaker 3: still in school in high school, they all wrestle. And

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Speaker 3: she said it to a big, a big duel today

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Speaker 3: and Missouri and I called her and I said, baby,

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Speaker 3: how you feeling. How's your weight? She says, I'm good,

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Speaker 3: I'm good. She said, don't buy a weight. My biology

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Speaker 3: teacher came to me today and just wanted me to

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Speaker 3: tell you that you did that. You did really good.

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Speaker 3: She was proud of you. And I said, I said,

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Speaker 3: you didn't watch the video, did you. She says no.

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Speaker 3: She I said, so, you don't even know what she's

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Speaker 3: talking about. She says no, And I said, well, thank you, Larry.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. She says, Dad, you're old news to me.

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Speaker 2: That's good. See, those are the kind of family members

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Speaker 2: you need. Yeah, no kidding, Oh, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, we love that you are so close to your

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Speaker 2: family and those are the things that matter when you

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Speaker 2: go to Washington. So Senator Mullin, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being on today, Thanks for having me on, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: and thank you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast.

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Speaker 1: For this episode and others.

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