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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours Truly Paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, my

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Speaker 1: name is Paul Anka.

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Speaker 2: And my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends for

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Speaker 2: decades and we've decided to let you in on our

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Speaker 2: late night phone calls by starting a new podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Our Way, and we'd like you to meet

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Speaker 1: some really good friends books.

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Speaker 3: They're leaders in entertainment and.

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Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even a sitting

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Speaker 1: president or two.

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Speaker 2: Join us as we ask the questions they've not been

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Speaker 2: asked before, Tell it like it is, and even sing

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Speaker 2: a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our Way. Hey, Skip,

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Speaker 1: I want to it just sound like with bubbles. It's

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Speaker 1: pouring here, flooding all over Westlake.

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Speaker 3: You know, Hey, I'm doing you know what, Paul.

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Speaker 4: They're talking about it like it's going to be an

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Speaker 4: epic storm, but so far it's just getting a little

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Speaker 4: bit of rain. But last time, you know, the animals

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Speaker 4: were lining up in pairs, so I'm hoping it's not

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Speaker 4: like that. So meanwhile, in other things, we've got Jason,

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Speaker 4: your son in law, coming on to do the.

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Speaker 1: Podcast and how excited a mine. Man, he's coming out

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Speaker 1: to the house and you're gonna love him. Well, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: he's all over you at the golf course. He always

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Speaker 1: calls me about the laughs you guys have you and

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Speaker 1: we're going to.

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Speaker 5: Get into that with him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that'll be fun. You know.

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Speaker 4: I have to tell you the funny thing about him.

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Speaker 5: The two things that resonated with me.

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Speaker 4: Number One, if you're wearing something that he likes, he'll say, Wow,

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Speaker 4: that sweater.

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Speaker 5: Where'd you get that sweater?

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Speaker 4: He says it in a way that you can feel

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Speaker 4: obligated to go out and buy one for him.

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Speaker 5: Should do.

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Speaker 4: Then you've got a great response from Matthew. But my

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Speaker 4: other favorite thing with him is it doesn't matter like

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Speaker 4: what you've done in your career, matter how many shopping

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Speaker 4: centers you developed like I did back East, or the

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Speaker 4: tallest building between New York and Boston, or you know,

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Speaker 4: working in the casino industry and developing casino projects.

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Speaker 5: Say hey, you know what, nobody knows what you do.

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, really, really, no one?

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Speaker 4: You know that's the younger set.

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Speaker 5: Skip, No, it's him, it's him.

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Speaker 3: And his busting.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the great busters of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But you know we got to do he's

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Speaker 1: a golf addictation. Got to tell him the story of

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Speaker 1: you and Michael Jordan when you played and.

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Speaker 5: Beat him out of all that money. Make a make

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Speaker 5: a note of that, make a note.

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Speaker 1: You got to talk to about that, kick out of that.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 4: You know know the thing I want to do I

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Speaker 4: don't ask estation about you know, the way he you

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Speaker 4: it was okay to marry a man.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to hear that story, So that'll be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got a note on that too.

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Speaker 4: The other thing, you know, with of course getting your

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Speaker 4: smash ship, but we got to talk about arrested development.

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Speaker 5: And you know how that came about. Yeah, and SmartLess

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Speaker 5: of course is.

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Speaker 4: Like the smash podcast of all time.

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Speaker 3: He's having to blast with that.

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Speaker 1: So how about a glass that they sold it for millions?

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Speaker 3: I saw?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that eases up for me. I

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Speaker 5: don't that's one or less of five girls that have

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Speaker 5: to take care of Not that I wouldn't, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for them in their swing and then they

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Speaker 1: deserve it. You we'll have fun with him.

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Speaker 4: Skip we'll have no, it's gonna be great, all right,

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Speaker 4: And I'll catch up with you later.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll catch you later.

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Speaker 1: And don't go out, don't get on your arc yet,

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Speaker 1: and I'll let you know if I can escape my

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Speaker 5: And everything, and I'll talk to you more.

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Speaker 1: You know. I love you, Yeah, love you to stay warm. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow bye.

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Speaker 6: It is a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you coming to know each other.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit. We do go back? How long?

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Speaker 6: What is it? Twenty four years? I want to say twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was living up on Mulholland, which was about twenty

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Speaker 1: four years ago, and Amandam, the wonderful Amanda, for the

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Speaker 6: Now did you know that I was serious before I

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Speaker 6: showed up? Like? Did she prep you? Like, Dad? This

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Speaker 6: could be the one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 1: What she say, Dad? This could be the one?

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Speaker 6: Something like that?

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Speaker 1: You must have told her us.

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Speaker 6: I just told her just include the D part V.

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Speaker 6: Jason Bateman V one Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well no, to qualify for everyone out there, I got

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Speaker 1: the greatest son in right here. I'm not only even

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Speaker 1: blessed with some great children, but I got the greatest

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Speaker 1: while here. So this is kind of a different trip

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Speaker 1: for me being on this side of the mic, because

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Speaker 1: one of my great experiences this year was sitting with

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Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, a great time. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: a big month for me, Bill Burr, you guys coming

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Speaker 1: off of Howard Stern, I mean, what's next, right? But anyway,

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Speaker 1: Manna comes home and I know she's in love, and

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Speaker 1: I do the homework. I guess R. J. Wagner introduced

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have something like that somebody in the Wagner family,

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Speaker 6: Katie or Natasha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was hipped as something was up and

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Speaker 1: I went for the expensive wedding.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah you did. And you're saying you changed my

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Speaker 6: way into his way, Yeah, and saying that. Somebody was

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Speaker 6: talking to me the other day they're going to propose

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Speaker 6: to their girlfriend, and I talked to him about He said, well,

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Speaker 6: moment I proposed? I said, no, what are you talking?

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Speaker 6: But that's going to be your moment with you and

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Speaker 6: your and your your fiance. But you do it might

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Speaker 6: not be bad to do the traditional talk to dad

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Speaker 6: first and say I'd like to I'm going to ask

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Speaker 6: your daughter. We had that conversation, didn't we? We did

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Speaker 6: help my small brain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that go?

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Speaker 6: Where was that?

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Speaker 1: Remind me of it? I think it was it was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like was I over there with a manager?

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Speaker 6: I pull you into a side room. Why am I?

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Speaker 6: I must have been so nervous, I blacked out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been going through a few things at that time.

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Speaker 1: You were calibrating. May I say that? Yeah, yeah, a recalibration.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm still in it, Yeah, very successfully. May

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Speaker 1: I add, and which you know I was hip too.

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Speaker 1: But you know it goes back to I mean off point.

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Speaker 1: You know, I started at fourteen, and you know, God

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Speaker 1: you know, people just don't understand when you start at

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Speaker 1: that age. You know, none of us are from sophisticated backgrounds,

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Speaker 1: None of us, any singer I've met, anybody that I

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Speaker 1: And when that shit is thrown at you and you

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Speaker 1: have to deal with success in that abnormal premise of life,

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Speaker 1: it ain't easy.

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Speaker 6: It's not easy, and you're looking to make it easy

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Speaker 6: in a situation that's challenging mentally, spiritually and complicating everything

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Speaker 6: is that you're in such a permissive environment as you're

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Speaker 6: becoming famous. People are allowing you to be not your

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Speaker 6: best self, and gravity is pulling you towards not your

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Speaker 6: best self to compensate for the challenges of all the

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Speaker 6: mental and spiritual stuff. So yeah, you need good people

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Speaker 6: have to make a bunch of apologies as you really

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: You're crawling, Yeah, crawling through life. I found to you

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Speaker 1: get to some juncture of wisdom where you're able to

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Speaker 1: compute what's going on to say, wait a minute.

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Speaker 6: Did that come quick enough for you or did you

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Speaker 6: have I certainly had some challenge, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had challenges, You've overcome yours. Mine. It was

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Speaker 6: Time, less challenging.

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Speaker 3: Do you think, well, it was.

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Speaker 1: Challenging in certain ways. But I was protected at a

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Speaker 1: my mom at eighteen, great guy in Irving Feld who

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Speaker 6: I mean, well the weekends weakens. Skip, good that you're

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Speaker 6: still with us, you know, from the from that bus

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Speaker 6: with the needles all the way to the.

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Speaker 1: He knows all about that. I'm you know, back back

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Speaker 1: in your turf off of that. What interested me? I've

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Speaker 1: seen Jason do all these amazing things and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden out of nowhere. You know, Amanda rarely

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Speaker 1: calls me with any big items. She's just she's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: Dad chasing the state of playing golf. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: He's gonna play golf? And you got to tell your

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Speaker 1: friend Skip, whatever he can do, we don't want him

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Speaker 1: playing golf. I'm going to Amantha.

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Speaker 6: Skip ended up being a great lubricant to get me

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Speaker 1: He's the guy, Skip, and you know the rest of

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Speaker 1: the story. How did you maneuver that? I mean, how

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Speaker 1: how did that all fit into that flow? You guys

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Speaker 6: What's that golf? Golf?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's time consumer, it's.

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Speaker 6: Very time consuming. But I don't do anything else unless

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Speaker 6: i'm working. You know, there's probably no coincidence that a

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Speaker 6: lot of actors play golf because you're either acting right

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Speaker 6: where you're working at least twelve hours a day or

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Speaker 6: you're doing zero. You know, you're literally trying to figure

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Speaker 6: out how to get some days behind you on your

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Speaker 6: way to your next job. You're constantly getting hired and fired.

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Speaker 6: So for me, and I hope this doesn't sound like spin,

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Speaker 6: it does to Amanda, but it's sincere. It's so challenging

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Speaker 6: to me golf that it actually keeps me mentally sharp

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Speaker 6: because it's so hard for me. So it's a very

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Speaker 6: challenging thing for me to do while I'm waiting to

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Speaker 6: get hired to go do something equally challenging, which is

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Speaker 6: for me directing. Acting is super comfortable, but directing is

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that after. It's amazing what you're doing

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Speaker 3: And he looked at me and he went, yeah, fucking amazing.

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Speaker 6: Over and I think, whows some of that money? Again?

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Speaker 2: No, this is cool. I'm being called out by Michael Jordan's,

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Speaker 1: Well, he was. It was all over Vegas every time.

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Speaker 1: And everyone wanted to play with Michael Pitt, bosses, Bill

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Speaker 3: Really, oh yeah, but think about money to this day

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Speaker 3: He's the guy.

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Speaker 2: And what a life this guy has made fro him

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Speaker 6: What do you know?

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Speaker 6: You avoided the addiction, right? You never you never.

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Speaker 6: I would it so much time in Vegas and these

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Speaker 1: I know, I you know I played, but you know

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be able to do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: But then I thought it's Jason. Of course he wants

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the greatest kids. I tell you, Maple

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like that, it's just it's it's it's odd. In fact,

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Speaker 6: It is both, but it's mostly as I'll bet you

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Speaker 6: into what whatever the hell it is you do? No one,

441
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 6: no one can, no one can figure it out. I've

442
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 6: talked to a lot of people. My wife's included, Yeah,

443
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 6: I mean it, but they know I do it. Well,

444
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 6: oh you're you're the keg and so we'll go yeah,

445
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 6: but what what is it?

446
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

447
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

448
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 6: But if you want something done in this world, you

449
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 6: go to Skip Bronson. But you know it's yeah, it's

450
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 6: creating fake life such that it is convincing right that

451
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 6: it feels real to someone who's watching it, and then

452
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 6: you kind of spike it a bit so that it's

453
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Speaker 6: not only just real, which takes ninety percent of the work,

454
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Speaker 6: but that it's also interesting and compelling. It's either funny

455
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 6: or it's dramatic, and that you know, takes a visual

456
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Speaker 6: component or musical component, or a performance component or editorial

457
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 6: strategy or whatever it is. You have all these in

458
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 6: front of you like a mixing board of music, and

459
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 6: you can raise up this or that to help move

460
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 6: the audience a little left, a little right and not.

461
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Speaker 6: You know, control is sort of a pejorative. I don't

462
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 6: mean it as one, but it is that that control,

463
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 6: that challenge of control where you are sort of dictating

464
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 6: what the audience is seeing through that little paper tube

465
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Speaker 6: that you know, I grew up looking through a little

466
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Speaker 6: paper towel, you know tube you know, or you kind

467
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Speaker 6: of like And that's kind of to me.

468
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Speaker 1: What's still not easy? But who are the guys that

469
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: that you hate the word admire, But who are the

470
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: guys that really do that well for you?

471
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Speaker 3: Family?

472
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Speaker 6: Kubrick was one. I love David Fincher.

473
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Speaker 1: You've always talked about Fincher.

474
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just find his is aesthetic and his taste,

475
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Speaker 6: the things that sort of get him excited with composition

476
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 6: or even color, temperature and all this other stuff.

477
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Speaker 1: So when you did Nike it must have been a

478
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Speaker 1: blast working with.

479
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 6: Ben Affleck, and yeah, he's been.

480
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Speaker 1: Did you learn from that?

481
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Speaker 6: It was nice to see another actor directing. He seems

482
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 6: to enjoy the efficiency of that like I do when

483
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 6: I direct when I'm acting, in that I'm in the

484
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 6: scene with the other actors, so I can kind of

485
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 6: direct them while we're performing, or I can help make

486
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Speaker 6: a camera move work by adjusting where I'm standing because

487
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 6: I noticed the camera's a little out of position. And

488
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 6: so these things are fun challenges for me. And he

489
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 6: seems to understand the process and is so comfortable with

490
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Speaker 6: the process that he's able to take on, you know,

491
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Speaker 6: a lot of things while he in between action and cut.

492
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Speaker 6: When he's acting, he's also helping with the directing.

493
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Speaker 1: So it's when you were around Ron Howard on development.

494
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Speaker 1: So that was But you did Did you direct at eighteen?

495
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Speaker 6: Yeah? The first The first thing I did was an

496
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Speaker 6: episode of a show I was doing when I was

497
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 6: eighteen called The Hogan Family, which it started with Valerie Harper.

498
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 6: It was called Valerie then it was Valerie Family Valeri's

499
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: family than the Hogans and the Hogan Family. And yeah,

500
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Speaker 6: I directed an episode of that when I was eighteen,

501
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 6: and that was you know, that's in front of a

502
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 6: studio audience, so there's more of a proscenium, right, sort

503
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 6: of an edge like a like a theater, and the

504
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 6: cameras stay on the outside of that edge, actors on

505
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 6: the inside. So the directing of it is much like

506
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Speaker 6: directing a play more so than directing a film that's

507
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Speaker 6: shot with just one camera. So it was a little

508
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 6: bit different, not quite as complicated as directing single camera.

509
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Speaker 1: Where did you finish high school?

510
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Speaker 6: On a second, never finished high school.

511
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Speaker 1: For two years.

512
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Speaker 3: I do not sound like.

513
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Speaker 1: I finished at MGM and the Black Lot. I was

514
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Speaker 1: doing a movie called Girls Down was made Van Doren. Wow,

515
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: and I was hot.

516
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds better than the film I was doing too.

517
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: And I finished. I was a kid named Jay North

518
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: who was doing Dennis a Menace, Oh really, And he

519
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: and I were in class and I got my diploma.

520
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: So you never got a diploma for no.

521
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Speaker 6: I was doing Team Wolf two during the final period

522
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 6: of my senior year, and so I had to do

523
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: my finals while we were shooting, and the shooting schedule

524
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 6: was such that I didn't have time to finish two

525
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 6: of my four finals, and so I was an incomplete

526
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Speaker 6: and you know, I remember going to the headmaster.

527
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

528
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 6: Months afterwards, I was driving by the school and I

529
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 6: pulled over and just kind of unannounced, went into his

530
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 6: office and I said, I said, mister makeoff, I don't

531
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Speaker 6: get my diploma. I mean I finished the classes. I

532
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 6: just didn't take two of the finals. Yeah no, sorry,

533
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 6: I said, well, he said you can take the ged

534
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 6: I said, well, no, can we think about it. Months later,

535
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 6: I got a solicitation from them to donate to the school.

536
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 6: So I called him back. I said, well, do you

537
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 6: want to check but yeah, yeah, well yeah, So talk

538
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 6: about luck for a second.

539
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean, as a real estate developer, I got a

540
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: lucky break.

541
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Speaker 6: Paul. He's an officially a real estate developer, that's the

542
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 6: official one, but everything from shopping centers to casinos and

543
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 6: everything in between.

544
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: Paul and I have talked about hit the lucky brakes

545
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: that he's gotten. So what was the lucky break for you?

546
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 6: Well, I would probably say that the biggest break I've

547
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 6: ever had was the second break I had, which was

548
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 6: arrested development. The first one was Little House in the

549
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 6: Prairie when I was ten. That was kind of the

550
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 6: first big job I had, but you know, I kind

551
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 6: of rode. You know, that parlayed into you know, the

552
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: next job and the next job, and then doing comedy

553
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 6: and doing sitcoms and things like that, and then things

554
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 6: really kind of got quiet for me during my twenties,

555
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 6: and it was hard to get back into any sort

556
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 6: of level of success or access or relevance. And then

557
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 6: Arrested Development came around, and that was a show that well,

558
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 6: it wasn't really seen as a big hit across the country.

559
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 6: It was it was a big hit amongst those who

560
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 6: hand out jobs here in Hollywood.

561
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

562
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: And DVD sales, yeah, and DV details, Yeah, very big.

563
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: But your dad was an actor. I didn't realize your

564
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: dad was an actor.

565
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 6: Actor, writer, producer, director. Yeah.

566
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: But did you grow up in Ryan, New York.

567
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: No.

568
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: I was born there till I was and lived there

569
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 6: till I was two, then Boston till four, then Salt

570
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: Lake City till seven, and then La. But once we

571
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 6: got to La, I was old enough to go to

572
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 6: see movies with my dad. I was finally old enough

573
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 6: to kind of appreciate some of the films that he

574
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 6: was seeing, or starting to get old enough, and so

575
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: He would take me to the local art house theaters

576
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 6: and show me these, you know movies that I'd have

577
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 6: to read subtitles, and they were kind of artsy FARTSI

578
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 6: but he would show me what great acting is or

579
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 6: great directing is and explain what it is and how

580
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: it happens. So that when I was ten, we had

581
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 6: a neighbor that was reading for a movie and he

582
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 6: was on his way to an audition. He was my

583
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 6: dad's age, my dad's friend, and he saw me out

584
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: front in the driveway helping my dad wash the car,

585
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 6: and he stopped and maybe assumed that I wasn't too

586
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 6: interested in washing the car with my dad, and he

587
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: asked me if I wanted to go along with him

588
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 6: to this audition, just to see how an audition goes.

589
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 6: And I said sure. My dad said yeah, go ahead,

590
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 6: so we went. I went with him this audition. They

591
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 6: were reading for the role of the Sun that same day,

592
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 6: and the Sun, the character was the same age as me.

593
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 6: He said, hey, why don't you go in and read

594
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 6: for the Sun? And I said, I'm not an actor,

595
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 6: and he said, here's they give you a little piece

596
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 6: of the script, like two or three pages to see

597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: if you can act, called the sides right, and he said,

598
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: just just get head on in there and make it

599
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 6: look like you're supposed to be there, and when they

600
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 6: say you're not on the list, say that must have

601
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 6: been some mistake. So I did that, and I auditioned

602
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 6: for it. I got the part, and so I came home.

603
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: I told my dad and I said, hey, will you

604
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 6: take some pictures of me? Let's sendhim into an agency

605
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 6: and see if I can get an agent and maybe

606
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 6: start reading for some commercials. And so I did. I got,

607
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: you know, a handful of commercials and they start sending

608
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: out for bigger stuff.

609
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: And I told you you were tending. He said, Dad,

610
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: let's let's go to get an agent.

611
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't. Yeah, I probably said, you know,

612
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 6: I like this, maybe I'm good at this. What should

613
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 6: we do? He says, well, we should get an agent.

614
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 6: I go, how do we do that? You know, well,

615
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 6: let's take some pictures, you know, and send them in there.

616
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 6: And you know, I had a stupid bowl haircut and

617
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: you know, a halfway decent smile with a dumb gap

618
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 6: between my teeth. I looked like I could sell cereal

619
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 6: or something, you know.

620
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of pictures.

621
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, I saw a picture, I saw a picture

622
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: of your dad, and he said it's Greg Kenar.

623
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 6: He was a lot like, yeah, that's that's right. If

624
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 6: that is another fellow golfer, absolutely, huh, yeah, that's right.

625
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 6: He does a little bit like Greg Canar. He got

626
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: Steve McQueen a bit when he was younger. Lucky guy. Yeah,

627
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 6: I know, he's he's a he's a great great man.

628
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 6: That taught me basically everything that I know and sparked

629
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 6: the interest in me. I mean, had he been throwing

630
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 6: the ball with me in the park and said, taken

631
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: me to these movie theaters when I was a kid,

632
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 6: maybe I would have gone into sports. It certainly would

633
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 6: have been better at golf than I am today.

634
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: But you know what's amazing, you started as a child

635
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: actor if you will, probably don't like the term, but no. Yeah,

636
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: and then there are child actors like you know Beaver

637
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: from you know, Leave It to Beaver.

638
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it. I mean that's the end of

639
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: their career.

640
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

641
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: I had a big career, but that's the end of

642
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: the career. Yeah, and you taking it all the way through,

643
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah it was, and your career has gotten bigger and bigger.

644
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 6: And very very lucky about that, and and that that

645
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: was part of that big break with the rest of development,

646
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: because that was that was the first big job I

647
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: got as an adult. You know, I'd sort of gassed,

648
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 6: you know, my sort of my welcome as a as

649
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 6: a as a child or a young adult, you know,

650
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 6: young actor. There is that transition one needs to make

651
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: that bridge to adult parts and ask the audience to

652
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 6: accept you as somebody with you know, stubble instead of

653
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: you know, being a little a little tyke. And that

654
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: that job was really really important for that and I

655
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 6: was I was very aware of me too big. Yeah,

656
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 6: you could take care of my daughter from there, Oh yeah,

657
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 6: because the others I had five son and loss of balance.

658
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't sign the checks quick enough. That was your

659
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Speaker 1: big change.

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Speaker 6: It was nerve wracking. And I don't know if you remember,

661
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Speaker 6: but when Amanda and I first started thinking about getting married,

662
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Speaker 6: I was I was living with her, I don't I

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Speaker 6: I think I was broke. I was in debt and

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Speaker 6: were it not for the money that Amanda had made

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Speaker 6: as a voice voiceover artist. She was doing you know,

666
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 6: campaigns for you know, ads, doing commercials and doing voices

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Speaker 6: for cartoons and stuff like that. She had a bunch

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Speaker 6: of money that we needed to for the down payment

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Speaker 6: on a house.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you were, so it was it was. It

672
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Speaker 6: was nerve wracking thinking that the rest of my life

673
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Speaker 6: might be anti climactic from that which was my youth

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Speaker 6: and arrested development.

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Speaker 1: It's scary, you know for all of us. You know,

676
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: people out there just think it's all glamour and we

677
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Speaker 1: do what we do. But when you get that needle

678
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: up your arm, you know, of success and all of

679
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: this stuff that's really abnormal, there's a moment there where

680
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Speaker 1: you sit and go, God, I don't want this to

681
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Speaker 1: ever go away. Yeah, it's it's a tough way to

682
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Speaker 1: live because I kind of two things. When I started

683
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Speaker 1: as a kid and all of this started to happen,

684
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: he said, how do I not become an asshole?

685
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Speaker 6: Right?

686
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Because people are just catering and doing and you're still

687
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Speaker 1: trying to find yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to understand that you wake up alone,

689
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Speaker 6: you go to sleep alone, or rather you know the

690
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 6: things you think about or who you are right when

691
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Speaker 6: you are trying to go to bed or right when

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Speaker 6: you wake up. That's the person that you need to

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Speaker 6: be comfortable with, and if you've been an asshole all day,

694
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Speaker 6: you're going to feel bad about yourself when you're going

695
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Speaker 6: to bed and when you wake up. And so for me,

696
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Speaker 6: that was kind of the you know, behave in a

697
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Speaker 6: way that I not that I'm allowed it to be,

698
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: but that I am I am comfortable being right, because

699
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 6: there's a big difference there.

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Speaker 1: Speaking a difference Jason, the leap over to Ozark into

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Speaker 1: that other character. Yeah, you know from that great wit

702
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: that I mean lare you had. Was that difficult jumping

703
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: over into your money launderer? You know it a hole

704
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Speaker 1: muffia kind of thing. I mean, was there any interrepidation

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Speaker 1: as to anyone around you? Are you saying I can

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Speaker 1: pull this off?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, you know, what I do as a as

708
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Speaker 6: an actor in comedy versus as an actor in drama

709
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 6: are not terribly different. And I'm not trying to be modest.

710
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 6: It's just I like to play us, right. So the

711
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Speaker 6: comedic character I play is usually pretty close to the median,

712
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Speaker 6: and that the dramatic character I play is usually close

713
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Speaker 6: to the to the middle as well. In that I'm

714
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Speaker 6: I'm usually not the guy farting, I'm the guy reacting

715
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Speaker 6: to the fart, you know. Or in drama, I'm not

716
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Speaker 6: the guy with the knife. I'm the guy running from

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Speaker 6: the knife, you know. So I'm the The move that

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Speaker 6: I make from doing comedic acting to dramatic acting is

719
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Speaker 6: not a big, huge swing for me, and thus I

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Speaker 6: feel not a lot to ask the audience to buy

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Speaker 6: as long as I'm not trying to be wacky comedy

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Speaker 6: or super scary drama guy.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of a lot of actors can't pull

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Speaker 1: it off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I don't. I don't mind doing those big swings,

726
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Speaker 6: but I enjoy more being us. I like being the

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Speaker 6: person that's sort of the proxy for the audience. And

728
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Speaker 6: it's probably why I'm attracted to directing, because again, I'm

729
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Speaker 6: I've got the audience in my hands, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: trying to identify or declare what this scene is about,

731
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Speaker 6: what you should be receiving as an audience in this scene.

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Speaker 6: And then when I'm acting in something i'm directing, I've

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Speaker 6: kind of got two hands on the wheel, so I

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Speaker 6: can I can therefore take on things that have a

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Speaker 6: little bit more of a specific creative tone or objective

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Speaker 6: and feel decent about the ability to hit that small target.

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Speaker 6: Since I'm on camera and behind the cameras.

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Speaker 1: So questioned all that, you know, the music business is

739
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: going through a lot of change, and where are you

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Speaker 1: at with the coming it's here anyway artificial intelligence? What

741
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Speaker 1: are the intelligencia thinking as the oops, Yeah, there's some

742
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: changes coming and it could be this, and here's what's

743
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Speaker 1: going to happen, and here's in and here's out. What's

744
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Speaker 1: your feeling on.

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Speaker 6: That, because it's real, it's to be honest, I'm not

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Speaker 6: as educated on it as I would need to be

747
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Speaker 6: to really take a firm position, you know, either worried

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Speaker 6: or confident. My sister is super educated on it. She's

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Speaker 6: got a very strong opinion about whether it's it's a

750
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Speaker 6: healthy thing or not a healthy thing. I don't. I

751
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Speaker 6: don't know nearly as much as she does about it.

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Speaker 6: But my general instinct is that it's going to be

753
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Speaker 6: challenging for sure, but that the net will be great

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Speaker 6: for everyone eventually. And the comparison I will make is

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Speaker 6: what you were saying, which is the music industry. It

756
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 6: was uncomfortable at the beginning. Artists like yourself had to

757
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 6: realize uncomfortably that you're not gonna be making any money

758
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 6: selling albums anymore in comparison to the two years past,

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Speaker 6: and that you'd have to pivot and adapt to maybe

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Speaker 6: more touring or more merchandise or whatever the other lanes

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Speaker 6: are of monetization. That we're not being automated or we're

762
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Speaker 6: not being affected as much through technology, because you know,

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Speaker 6: the automotive industry went through it. You know, all these

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Speaker 6: assembly line workers, they were, you know, kicking and screaming

765
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Speaker 6: as they should have been about losing their jobs to

766
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Speaker 6: automation and you know, robots and whatnot. But it just

767
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Speaker 6: took some time for them, i'm sure, or to retrain

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Speaker 6: and adapt to another area of the business that they

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Speaker 6: could make a living in, because you can't stop these

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Speaker 6: you know, bosses from saying, oh, this robot can do

771
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Speaker 6: the job of ten workers, so you're out of a job.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be a whole new infra social

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Speaker 1: You mentioned your sister. You know, I follow you on

774
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: television and I'm listening to you all the time, right

775
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: with that great wit and you you always have an answer.

776
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: But one interview you did let me think Howard Stern.

777
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: You were on with Howard Stern and he you know Howard.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the best at what he does. And

779
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: he said he got on the subject of your sister

780
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: and you and acting and skipp. He said, oh yeah,

781
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, if you would you cast

782
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: your sister as your lover? Can you stick your tongue

783
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: in her mouth? He did the full menu. Do you

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: remember that interview?

785
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 6: I think so, but again I was probably too nervous

786
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 6: to remember all of it. But my answers was what.

787
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Speaker 1: It was great. I mean, you got out of you

788
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: you jive to the left and then to the right.

789
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Speaker 1: He kept saying, you're changing the subject, and you said, yeah,

790
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Speaker 1: if we were acting and and she was doing the part,

791
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: absolutely I do. He said, you would you know, how

792
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Speaker 1: are you piled everything? Well, I'm surprised you were amazing

793
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Speaker 1: the way you answered it.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised my answer wasn't already did it because because

795
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Speaker 6: we did too late. I remember when we were doing

796
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Speaker 6: Arrested Development, the showrunner and I Mitch Hurwitz, we were

797
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 6: talking about how to get Justine on the show. I

798
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 6: think the fans were asking for it or something. We're

799
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Speaker 6: trying to figure out what would be a fun way

800
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Speaker 6: to bring her on, and him being you know, the

801
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 6: genius sort of crazy creative minding, he said, well, why

802
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 6: don't we bring her on as a whore and you

803
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Speaker 6: hire her as the whore prostitute. I was like, huh,

804
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: how would that work? So so she came on arrested

805
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 6: development as a high class call girl that I hired,

806
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 6: if I'm remembering correctly, And there may have even been

807
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: a moment where we didn't lean in towards each other

808
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 6: to kiss each other, but I think there was tension

809
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 6: in a scene about maybe that we might something like that.

810
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 6: It's a long time ago, but I remember that being like,

811
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Speaker 6: oh my god, we're gonna bring Justine on and she's

812
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: going to be a prostitute that I hire, and it

813
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 6: ended up working. It was pretty funny.

814
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that Howard really stuck out in my mind.

815
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: He knows how to ask a question, yeah, and you

816
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: know how to answer them too. You're fast in your feet.

817
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of interviews, let's talk about your podcasts for a minute.

818
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: Just one of the top podcasts in the in the whole.

819
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 6: World, until you guys go past.

820
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Whose idea was it to furst due podcast?

821
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: Will Arnett said to me one day he said, you know,

822
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do a podcast. I go really, He said yeah.

823
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 6: I said why because our buddy Dax Shepherd is making

824
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 6: so much money at it. He goes, eh, you know,

825
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: but now what I want to do? I said, I said, well,

826
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 6: what's it about? He goes, I think he said it

827
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 6: was going to be something about sobriety or something. He's

828
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 6: going to call it the Journey. I said that sounds

829
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: fucking boring. It was going to sounds like a hiking show.

830
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 6: I said, tell you what, you do, whatever you want,

831
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Speaker 6: but let me be on it. I'm going to be

832
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Speaker 6: on it with Gil show. I said, I'm going to

833
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: be on it with you, and we're going to get

834
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 6: some of that Dak's money. He says, no, no, no,

835
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 6: you're not invited. It's just going to be mine. I

836
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 6: said no, no, I said, I'm doing it. He said, no,

837
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Speaker 6: you're not. I said I'm doing it. And I think

838
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 6: I like I left the room or something. Then I

839
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 6: ran into Sean Hayes the next night at some at

840
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 6: some party, and and I decided to tease him a

841
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 6: little bit, try to get him jealous. And I told

842
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 6: him that Will and I were going to go do

843
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: a podcast. So I want, I want, I'm in. I

844
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 6: said no, No, I said, I'm in. I'm a great

845
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 6: call Will. So I told Will, I said, you know,

846
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 6: heads up, Sean's Sean's coming in. He's going to be

847
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 6: on it too. He goes, no, God, damn it, it's mine.

848
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 6: So Sean ended up asking his folks at his production

849
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 6: company to just run the numbers about what the lift

850
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: would be, you know, financially and time wise, and what

851
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 6: the possible upside might be. And this was during COVID

852
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: and we were already you know, zooming a lot, just

853
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 6: to stay in contact. And so he said, you know,

854
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 6: my guys came up with some real interesting numbers. If

855
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 6: you guys want to come in and let them, just

856
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: tell us. And Will was like, no, Jesus, what do

857
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: I I'm I'm this is my pot, so just come here.

858
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 6: So we will. So we go into his office and

859
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 6: the three of us listen to his someone on his

860
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 6: staff kind of break down what it would be. And

861
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: basically it was what we were doing already, you know,

862
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 6: a zoom for an hour or whatever, and and so

863
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 6: we started doing it during COVID and people started listening

864
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 6: and it was just shocking the first time I realized

865
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 6: people really were listening was we had Paul McCartney on

866
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: the show and it was he was Sean's guest. And

867
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Speaker 6: after Paul McCartney left and we do sort of a

868
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: wrap up, I said to Sean, I said, how do

869
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: you know Paul McCartney. He says, I don't. He called us.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a key.

871
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 6: But I mean that that was that it indicated that, okay,

872
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 6: if a Beatle is going to do a podcast, apparently

873
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: we are one. That his people were suggesting that. So

874
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 6: that was that was pretty scary to me.

875
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Actually, so you don't use a booker per se, right,

876
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: you each you find you have must have a booker.

877
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: We have.

878
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: We have somebody, Michael Grant Terry is our producer. I

879
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 6: suppose that does many things, one of which is to

880
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 6: book the guests. And what we do is the guest

881
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 6: is a mystery to two of the other guys. So

882
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 6: we take turns inviting guests on, and we don't tell

883
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: the other two who we're bringing on, so that you

884
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 6: don't have to do any homework, no prep whatsoever.

885
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: They're wrecking.

886
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 6: Huh.

887
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: No.

888
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 6: In cases, it's not too bad because there's no obligation

889
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 6: for the other two to ask any questions.

890
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: You know.

891
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: It's like if I bring on, you know, Joe Blow,

892
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 6: I got to have a bunch of questions for Joe,

893
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 6: and the other guys can chime in when they think

894
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 6: of something to ask Joe, but they need not.

895
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: So that's not uncomfortable at the time.

896
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 6: No, it's it's fantastic.

897
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: So there wasn't one guess that was really challenging where

898
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: you went, you know.

899
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 6: I mean we do it via zoom, so we have

900
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 6: our computers in front of us, and you know, you

901
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 6: can see Will and Sean, you know, typing away furiously

902
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 6: with you know, into the Google machine to try to

903
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 6: find out what it is about, you know, my guest

904
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: that they might be interested in.

905
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: You scared the hell out of me. Excuse me for

906
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: you ruugh you yeah, yeah, I mean I almost got

907
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: very vile because you guys prank each other. You know,

908
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: you get on it, which is great, you like, get

909
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: this call right and I'm hip to the show and

910
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan and it's my guy, you know,

911
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: and uh, it's about five thirty in the afternoon a

912
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: few months ago, and Jason gets on. He so I'm

913
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: doing the podcast from a hotel over here, and somebody

914
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: wants to talk to you. I do it out of nowhere.

915
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: So really, I'm saying, okay, they're pranking me. Says okay,

916
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: I'll go with this guy gets on the phone. He says, Hi,

917
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: this is the President of the United States, Joe Biden.

918
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: You knowing me.

919
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I was going, get the fuck out here.

920
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: I think I think your answer was he was silence

921
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 6: you okay, okay, like someone's pretty good at doing this depression.

922
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 6: And then and then he went on.

923
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: To he said, I wasn't gonna do this interview with

924
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: these guys, so I got to talk to Jason's father

925
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: in law. Yeah, I'm a fetal right right then, and

926
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm putting it together. I'm going, wow, wow, that was

927
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: what you guys? Yeah, that was That was another that

928
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: was actually another incoming call. It was stunning.

929
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 6: It was a year after Sir Paul and uh we

930
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 6: got a call from the White House saying that, you know,

931
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 6: the President's going to be in town. He wants to

932
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 6: do a podcast. He wants to be here again. Could

933
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 6: not believe it, but anyway, we had to go to

934
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: a remote site in a hotel to do it in

935
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 6: his room, and he when he walked into there, and

936
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 6: we were already in the room set up Mike's were

937
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 6: ready to go. And then the President comes in and

938
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: he comes in holding his iPhone and he's got Paul's

939
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 6: one of your songs playing from the phone song and

940
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 6: I said, I.

941
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: Said, I said, is it having my baby? He said,

942
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: it was my Way, wasn't it. I don't remember which one.

943
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: I mean, it's sobody to pick from it, but he

944
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 6: you're You're one of his favorites. And he had it

945
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: just on his phone as like a ring tone or

946
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 6: whatever it is. Yeah, And I said, I said, oh

947
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 6: my god, he'd be so thrilled to know that. He goes, well,

948
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 6: let's call him, let's tell him, And that's how that

949
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 6: phone call happened. And I just hit your number on

950
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 6: speaker and away he went, I'm so glad you were

951
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: around to get the call. So is I.

952
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a cool call. Thank you.

953
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

954
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: But bucket list guest somebody that you haven't had.

955
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 6: I'd love to have Howard on. He would be great.

956
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: But I don't even want to get him the studio.

957
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 6: Why. I didn't need to because it's zoom, and I

958
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 6: has to drive all the way out here to your

959
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 6: goddamn house.

960
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: You know you look the same. What do you what do.

961
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: You film here?

962
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Do problem?

963
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: Well?

964
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 6: Loser in a few months, and you know I'm playing

965
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 6: a loser, so I'm nailing it with this long hair. Well.

966
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: I don't start shooting for another five months, so there's

967
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 6: gonna be another five months of growth on this.

968
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Wow to that To that point, I was going to ask,

969
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: is there anything that really worries you other than hair loss?

970
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 6: Yes, not to not to be maudlin, but this, you know,

971
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 6: is we are all sort of on the backside of

972
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: our arc. We're closer to death and birth. I start

973
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 6: to worry about the arbitrary illnesses that you know, like

974
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 6: you know, you can't you don't catch cancer. You know,

975
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 6: it's just it's in us all and it just gets

976
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 6: turned on or not arbitrarily for the most part to everyone.

977
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: And and that's some mortality. It doesn't scare me as

978
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: much as it as well. It's just you know, it's

979
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 6: it's it's an annoying distraction. And when you're busy galloping

980
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: towards you know, the finish of life, you're enjoying you

981
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 6: just hope that it you know that it's a gentle

982
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: descent and you.

983
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Can deal Jason with most of that stuff. That cancer

984
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: is the tough one.

985
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of things that

986
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 6: will take you out that are not fantastic.

987
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: It's preventative.

988
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: You have to do.

989
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: You have to live a certain lifestyle, you run every day. Well, yeah,

990
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: we're on the verge of some stuff.

991
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be nice.

992
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: There's some medical discoveries that are coming up where you're

993
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: going to add on to your life.

994
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: And by the way, AI is playing a big role

995
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: in that.

996
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm involved at you a medical center, Department of Neurosurgery

997
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: active over there, and they're talking about the fact that,

998
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, the amount of intelligence that they were able

999
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: to garner sort of doubled every five years. Now it's

1000
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: doubling every six months. And AI is playing such an

1001
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: incredible role in figuring stuff out there because it's all

1002
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: about you know, we talk about early detection. It's all

1003
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: about it's.

1004
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 6: Actually pretty surprising if you think about it, that we

1005
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 6: don't yet have a cure for all cancers. I mean,

1006
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 6: we have very effective treatments, as we do for HIV,

1007
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 6: and whatnot. But you would think that with all of

1008
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 6: the money and time and brain power that's gone into this,

1009
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 6: that that we still can't lick that one, and we

1010
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 6: still we still don't know fully how the brain works

1011
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 6: or what the what the equation is of a thought?

1012
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 6: You know, like there's some stuff that we still can't

1013
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: get our arms around.

1014
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: But isn't that great about life? The stuff you don't know.

1015
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: Paul and I talked a lot about UFOs is. Paul's

1016
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: even more convinced than most.

1017
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 6: That they're here.

1018
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that they're here ye among us? Yeah yeah, yeah,

1019
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the one philosophy I have with

1020
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: it all. We were put here on earth to live,

1021
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean to live. So no matter what ship you

1022
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: go through during the day and you got a little

1023
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: of this, you know where we get, Oh this wises

1024
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: is happening. It's not what it's about. You're here to

1025
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: live no matter what's happening to you. Just participate, participate

1026
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and live. You know.

1027
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point. So tell me about this podcast.

1028
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 6: This is just a chat a chat session with with

1029
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: folks that you two know.

1030
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: With our friends.

1031
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could probably have a thousand episodes before.

1032
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: You, and they're friends that we think are interesting and

1033
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: we think much like what happened to you with SmartLess. Yeah,

1034
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: you know we once this gets out, if you will,

1035
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: we think certain friends of ours will also say, hey,

1036
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: what about me?

1037
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, why am I get ready? Yeah? You're not

1038
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 6: going to be able to move?

1039
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: And we're having fun with it.

1040
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: That's the best part is it's taking what we do,

1041
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: as I said at night on the phone, and taking

1042
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: it out into the airway.

1043
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: You're not having fun in life, forget about it. Yeah,

1044
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be having fun. We had Bill Burr, you know,

1045
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Chip shot ago. It's amazing, right, It was the funniest thing.

1046
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: It just shows you actors want to be singers. Singers

1047
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: want to be actors. So we had lunch, blah blah blah.

1048
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun and he's brilliant, and

1049
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I want to do it. Yeah, I want

1050
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 1: to do it absolutely, Yeah, I'll be there. Fuck yeah,

1051
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, do it.

1052
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: He says.

1053
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: One thing he says, Uh, I want to sing? Said

1054
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: what he says, I want to sing?

1055
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm not doing it.

1056
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: You gotta be fucking kidding. You're gonna come on and sing? Yeah?

1057
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: I want to sing, yo, Yeah, make it happen. So

1058
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: I made it happen. I got a music track. We

1059
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: sent him the song blah blahlah blah. When he gets

1060
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: in here and destroyed the Cold Porter classic. I've got

1061
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: you under my skin. When I tell you destroy I'm

1062
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: sure there's a guy in a box somewhere kicking the

1063
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: fuck trying to get out.

1064
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: Made up his own lyrics as he went along, his

1065
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: own lyrics.

1066
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: We're so thrilled that you said you'd sing today. I

1067
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: got the band waiting. I just put you on, honey.

1068
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: I would never ask you to do that. We're going

1069
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: to eclectically wait for whoever was to sing right.

1070
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 6: I don't even sing in the shower. It's it's it's

1071
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 6: not great. You were fantastic on our podcast, though, enjoy

1072
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: I mean truly one of our better interviews.

1073
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. You know you talk about singing.

1074
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I enjoyed it. You know, it's it's

1075
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: such an irony guys that are afraid to sing and

1076
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: can sing. Then you got a guy like Warren Buffett,

1077
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: who's a buddy. I love him, and all he does

1078
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: is he loves to sing. He just loves. I met

1079
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: him because he hired me to do a gig and

1080
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: I rewrote My Way for him, he says. He says,

1081
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: I get saying that song. I love saying, I just

1082
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: love my Way. That's my song. I said, really, were

1083
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: he says, standing a playing at my funeral? He said really?

1084
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: I says, well, how would you like to sing it?

1085
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: So we're hearing. I said, well, you're going to studio

1086
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: with me and we'll record you. He said really.

1087
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: I said yeah.

1088
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: I said, we'll have a hamburger a cherry coke, because

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Speaker 1: that's what he eats every day, right, cherry coke. He said, okay,

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Speaker 1: come on, So he comes out here. We get in

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Speaker 1: the studio, capital huge orchestra, and weren't Boffa singing My

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00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: Way with no fear? And he's singing away and he's

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00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: loving it, and he was so good. And then we

1094
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: start doing some gigs together. We'd go out and we'd

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00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: start singing at these different little rillits. Oh yeah, and

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00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: we and he stand up there. We do a rewrite

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00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: of My Way, like one we did down here in

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: a Laguna. The top female executives in the country, Big

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00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: tent I must have been five hundred women. Now then

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00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: we're here. You women cheer and he's just roaring away

1101
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: and I'm stand here going I've seen it all. But

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00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, he plays the record. Apparently every day he

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00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: goes to his office, which is the coolest office. It's

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: quiet in Omaha, it's modest in Omaha, and you go

1105
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: in there, you don't hear a sound. He's got baseball

1106
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: stuff all over the place. He loves it, and he

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00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: listens to his version of my Way. Really, so he

1108
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: get into this business of holograms and he's out here.

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00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: I said, Warren, we can do a hologram of you

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00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: singing my Way, so you'll be seen. Really, I said,

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00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: just meet me at this studio and we'll do the hologram.

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00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: Not only hear yourself, you'll see yourself. We went to

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00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: the studio, he did it, and we now have a

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00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: wonderful hologram and an amazing version of Warren Buffett singing

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00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: My Way. And then where would you run that hologram

1116
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: at his funeral?

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00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 6: Ah? Got it? Yeah, hopefully not soon dancing on his coffee.

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00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it just goes back to you know, so

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00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: many people have a fear of speaking, and definitely singing, right,

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00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that, But then the guys that

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: you're so amazed at that have so much and they

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00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: do in this things no fear whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: I would probably sing before I would dance. How are

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 6: you at dancing? Yeah, you can dance, ken you.

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00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: I'd rather sing before dancing. You know.

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00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 6: I used to dancing. I mean, I you know, do

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00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 6: you remember I didn't even dance with Amanda at my wedding.

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00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 6: That's how much I don't like dancing. I didn't even

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00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 6: dance at my own wedding. First thing that you took,

1130
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 6: you took your dance and my dance.

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00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: That's correct, So you owe me one.

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00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: You're going to stop for an in and out Burger

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: on your way home because it's pretty obvious Paul is

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: not serving anything.

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00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, you haven't gone into the kitchen yet.

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00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 6: I came having had Yeah, I got a rush back

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 6: with your diet before you split. It's uh, it's.

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Speaker 3: You know what I do.

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 6: I I whenever I'm at a place that's serving you know,

1140
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 6: something yummy, something something bad for me, I have it.

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00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: I have it a lot, uh when I'm there, But

1142
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: for the most part, that's like once a week, once

1143
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 6: a month. Twice a month for anybody. Yeah, so when

1144
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 6: I'm home, I just make sure when I'm home, whereas

1145
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 6: I do most of my eating, it's all just good stuff.

1146
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 6: Mostly it's salad and chicken.

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00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, you know the way you've watched the way the

1149
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: family eats. Yeah, from Alex to the way and oh

1150
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, oh my god. I mean Amanda is just

1151
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: great for me in so many ways. She's way overqualified to,

1152
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, manage what I eat. But she's very helpful

1153
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: and giving me discipline and many many are important. Yeah,

1154
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: you get older, we all have to watch what we

1155
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: put in our body.

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00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 6: Oh sure, I think they say if you if you

1157
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 6: keep eating exactly what you eat each year, you will

1158
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 6: gain three pounds. Like your metabolic rate slows down such

1159
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 6: that you need to eliminate three pounds worth of weight

1160
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 6: gain each year if you want to stay level. So

1161
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 6: you have to eat less and less the older you get,

1162
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 6: if you want to keep your weight the same.

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00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: Unless your doctor prescribes o zimpic.

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00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I just got up one day and said,

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00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: I've eaten enough. I've eaten enough.

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00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you watch yourself and you're still performing in

1167
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: your vain so that that helps all.

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00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Hey, you know when you go to a doctor five

1169
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: years ago and then I went last month, he says,

1170
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: you're three inches shorter. I'm not the kind of guy

1171
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: that relishes that. I was never anywhere. He says he's

1172
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: lost inches. I said, wait a minute. I started too.

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: Short as it was.

1174
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, I took my weakness, made it my strength.

1175
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: He says, you're three inches shorter. I said, I don't

1176
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: want to hear that.

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 3: They don't have no zempic for that.

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: They will. They've got operations. Now you can go in.

1179
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: They cut open your legs, surih, they put a wedging

1180
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: and really, oh yeah, oh they'll give you. They got

1181
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: something for everything, don't they everything. That would be weird, Yeah,

1182
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: very weird. When I get the five inches shorter, I'll sick.

1183
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 6: What a five inch wedge? And your kneecap wherever it works?

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's been fun. It's we're so thrilled that you came.

1185
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 7: And god, I'm just uh, I'm I'm honored to be related.

1186
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 6: To you, and and you should hear everything people say

1187
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: about you when I'm out and about Yeah, well if

1188
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 6: I told you all the hellos I get to pass

1189
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 6: on to you you'd be exhausted.

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00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: That's touchy, that's good. Well likewise, hey, likewise, And we

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: don't promote it, you know that we're so laid back

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: with it. But now it's people come up. They know

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00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: and but thanks for joining Skip and I. You know,

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00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Skip and I are we're a little virgence here compared

1195
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: to what you guys have achieved with yours. And when

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00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: we put this together and we started thinking who we

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: wanted on, you know, you're at the top of the

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00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: list there and we've really had a lot of fun today.

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00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: And Skips a brother and a friend and you're just

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00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: our way, yes, our way, love it or short people only,

1201
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: we haven't made up our minds. But thanks Jase, my pleasure,

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: love you, Thank you. Our Away with Paul Anka and

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