Speaker 1: All from Rati tug Satte.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 1: Well, you can call me Cam, because I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure my name is kind of hard to pronounce.
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Ratieron tug Satte.
Speaker 2: Say one more time?
Speaker 1: Ratzer on tug sat.
Speaker 2: Ratieran pag sat Yes. Why why did you shorten that
Speaker 2: to Cam?
Speaker 1: Well, so it's it's it's a long story.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: So I grew up in a part of the Iroquois
Speaker 1: Confederacy and basically I'm Mohawk, uh native. Uh So we
Speaker 1: have names that are given to us by shaman, and
Speaker 1: then we have our birth certificate names, which is usually Americanized.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so your Americanized birth certificate name is Cam,
Speaker 2: and uh, your your real name is the other one?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: What are your friends call you?
Speaker 1: Oh? They just called me Cam.
Speaker 2: Does anyone call you by your real name?
Speaker 1: No? Because I mean I moved out a little bit ago,
Speaker 1: just off the border of our reservation. Uh about nine
Speaker 1: years ago. I would say, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: How old are you?
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn nineteen?
Speaker 2: Oh cool man. Uh. Where where was your reservation again?
Speaker 1: It's in upstate New York. Uh, it's uh called AQUOSOSNY.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of it?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Is it like a well known reservation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that. How big is it spans
Speaker 1: from about I'm bad with my Canadian Uh what would
Speaker 1: you say? Like geography? I think like under Quebec and
Speaker 1: then it goes all the way to like downstate New.
Speaker 2: York and you go up there your whole life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I I spent some time in Italy. That's pretty much
Speaker 1: all of my heritage is Native and Italian, so I've
Speaker 1: been hopping through families pretty much all of my life.
Speaker 2: What was it like growing up on the reservation.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I could definitely get into a lot
Speaker 1: of the dark history of stuff up here. Well, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of gangs up here that are run
Speaker 1: by you know MS thirteen. We have like a separate branch,
Speaker 1: so the way that a lot of things work up
Speaker 1: here anyway, I guess you can break down gang activity throughout.
Speaker 1: I mean even just the United States is a total
Speaker 1: of you know, easiest, easiest borders to enter and a
Speaker 1: lot we get a lot of opium and cracked and
Speaker 1: mess and stuff like that up here, So you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of poverty and a lot of our
Speaker 1: just an upstate New York in general, our kind of
Speaker 1: local culture is propped up by drugs.
Speaker 2: Mhm. And are you were you ever involved in any
Speaker 2: of that stuff growing up or stay away from it?
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a yes and no. I guess my
Speaker 1: parents met my my father was selling drugs to people, uh,
Speaker 1: you know all throughout uh you know the reservation him
Speaker 1: and another like addict were you know, using a uh
Speaker 1: charity organization too, I guess money through and that's where
Speaker 1: he met my mom, who was using at the time.
Speaker 1: And you know, there was a lot of uh drama there.
Speaker 1: But I mean on my my mom's side of the family,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of run ins with mafia, especially
Speaker 1: in Drague. I don't know if you've heard of it.
Speaker 1: It's uh Sicilian mafia. My let's see my what third cousin,
Speaker 1: I would say, uh was pretty close with I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of Tony Bennett.
Speaker 2: I don't do you know that musician Tony Bennett.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think if the opening song of good Fellas, I
Speaker 1: think he Rags to riches he wrote that song, well,
Speaker 1: uh so hypothetically allegedly, how However, I may phrase it
Speaker 1: to uh not land any of us in any trouble.
Speaker 1: But they lived with each other in Watertown, New York
Speaker 1: for a while, and his fame was pretty much brought
Speaker 1: up on money being funneled through local mafia sect, I guess,
Speaker 1: you could say. And that's one of the many things
Speaker 1: that brought you know, his rise to fame. And that's
Speaker 1: where that side of the family got, I guess connected
Speaker 1: with some of the mafia. And I do have some
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters back home, like in Italy anyway that
Speaker 1: that do still run. The only things that I have
Speaker 1: ever done I washed bitcoin through several cash app accounts.
Speaker 1: Somebody would make a purchase on some form of illegal
Speaker 1: goods and I would get the bitcoin, take ten percent
Speaker 1: of it, and then send it through multiple accounts to
Speaker 1: get to the main account. But I stopped doing that,
Speaker 1: especially because recently have started to actually have a family,
Speaker 1: you know, uh my my girlfriend soon to be fiance,
Speaker 1: you know, has has been a major part of my life.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason I won't go to the military
Speaker 1: now is because I'm I'm I don't want to risk
Speaker 1: any of that anymore. And I mean I could very well,
Speaker 1: you know, go into you know, criminal organizations at any
Speaker 1: moment in time, or do more than selling weed. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, I mean everybody up here pushes at least
Speaker 1: announced a month, like but you know, that's really nothing
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2: But I have to ask you before you continue any further.
Speaker 2: Are you about to get whacked for talking about all
Speaker 2: this on the Gecko Show?
Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I mean, a lot of the
Speaker 1: people who I mentioned are dead, and a lot of
Speaker 1: the people are either arrested, and a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of the people that I I do know who
Speaker 1: are you know, currently engaged in this sort of behavior,
Speaker 1: are usually across seas and whatnot. I did want to
Speaker 1: bring up one thing, but before I forgot I did
Speaker 1: call you at one point. Do you remember the name
Speaker 1: Peeballs Pretzel shop by any chance?
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, I do remember that. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: in front the whole time. The pretzel shop was just
Speaker 2: a front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no fucking I got that removed by the way.
Speaker 1: Just so then, like, if I ever were to call
Speaker 1: you again, you wouldn't you know, get a little bit worried,
Speaker 1: you know, for my safety.
Speaker 2: Damn, dude, I don't remember what we talked about or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think I was probably yeah, pretty much, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: do remember that. But but that aside. Hmmm, well, okay,
Speaker 2: I have a bunch of questions. Okay, first of all,
Speaker 2: what do you mean isn't weeds legal in New York? Well,
Speaker 2: how are they pushing an ounce of weed?
Speaker 1: Well, because everybody grows I mean legal, you know. It's
Speaker 1: you You can go to like any neighborhood, any you know,
Speaker 1: like little crack house on the side, and you'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I go see your shed? And you'll probably see
Speaker 1: like at least ten plants. It's it's technically you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to have that many plants. But at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, so many people are growing that there's pretty
Speaker 1: much nothing anybody can do. Especially the cops around here
Speaker 1: are fucking awful at their job. Like you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the amount of shit that people do on the daily.
Speaker 1: It's just impossible to regulate, especially because so much of
Speaker 1: our like I was saying before, our economy has propped
Speaker 1: up so much on a legal drug use. We ye
Speaker 1: some of the like In the town that I live
Speaker 1: in right now, we have three main restaurants that are
Speaker 1: all run by this one guy, and he was pushing
Speaker 1: coke to probably the entire North Country. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: been a not very hidden thing, especially.
Speaker 2: I mean, your life is a movie, you know.
Speaker 1: I probably have the most boring life out of any
Speaker 1: of all these crack heads up here.
Speaker 2: Cam are you Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm fucking wonderful. If it's a breathing thing, it's
Speaker 1: because I'm smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because you're breathing heavily. And I didn't know
Speaker 2: if you were having a heart attack or what was
Speaker 2: going on. But I want to know. I it's been
Speaker 2: cool hearing about the don't know a cool, but it's
Speaker 2: been it's been interesting hearing about the the lore of
Speaker 2: your town and your family. But like, tell me about you, Like,
Speaker 2: so you were what what working washing bitcoin for some
Speaker 2: mafia folks, and now you're eighteen nineteen and you're you're
Speaker 2: moving out where you like You're You're not still on
Speaker 2: the reservation, right, No.
Speaker 1: I'm like right on the outskirts. I mean it's right now.
Speaker 1: I'm most just focusing on, you know, working volunteering so
Speaker 1: I can become a chef. I'm planning on going to
Speaker 1: the culinary and stud of America sometime next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I'll be one of the one of the first
Speaker 1: people maybe other than like two people my family actually
Speaker 1: went to college and completed it because of you know,
Speaker 1: all the crazy shit that happened is up here.
Speaker 2: And so you're gonna go for culinary and what what's
Speaker 2: your what's your ultimate goal? You want to be a chef?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of my plans I was making with my
Speaker 1: friend is that we were going to run a place
Speaker 1: from there's this big highway that goes from like pretty
Speaker 1: much the all of the East Coast, you know, through
Speaker 1: Baltimore to all the way up to New York. And
Speaker 1: we wanted to open up some lounges for electric cars
Speaker 1: where you could like, you know, sit down, eat, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe hang out, have a drink, you know, play some
Speaker 1: arcade games, whatever the fuck while you wait for your
Speaker 1: car to charge. I've been recently writing a menu for it,
Speaker 1: you know, trademarking some ship. But that's that's pretty much
Speaker 1: my goal right now.
Speaker 2: And you know, do you have to have an electric
Speaker 2: car to go to this restaurant?
Speaker 1: Well no, but it certainly is definitely going to be
Speaker 1: built around that. I mean, I hope to have things
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, mostly environmentally friendly. You know stuff
Speaker 1: that I guess if you your average electric car user,
Speaker 1: you know, smug as a motherfucker thinks that they're great
Speaker 1: for the environment even though they perpetuate you know, child
Speaker 1: slavery and fucking uh mines in Africa sort of thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like all that organic food stuff. Like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: into it, like like definitely, don't get me wrong in that, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm into it, but I think it will be a
Speaker 1: good uh and easy an easy market to corner.
Speaker 2: Give me some menu items, are we is this like
Speaker 2: a chuck e cheese style chili fries, hamburger shit? Or
Speaker 2: are we going classes? Let's just throw me some menu items.
Speaker 1: Well, right now, I'm working on breakfast items. I learned
Speaker 1: how to make a really amazing Hollandais sauce. I was
Speaker 1: one of the only people in my culinary class before
Speaker 1: to actually pretty much get it on the first try.
Speaker 1: I had some experience at one of the places up
Speaker 1: here I don't really remember the name right now, but
Speaker 1: they were voted by the New York Times of having
Speaker 1: the best Hollandais sauce. But I wanted to play around
Speaker 1: with that sum for you know, morning options I wanted
Speaker 1: to Right now, I'm more in the stage of not
Speaker 1: necessarily the actual menu creation rather than ingredients that would
Speaker 1: work well in this sort of thing. I was thinking
Speaker 1: a lot of pescatarian stuff. I mean, I my some
Speaker 1: of my family right now, you know, deliver fish some
Speaker 1: of the best quality like thirty eight dollars per pounds
Speaker 1: to salmon, shit like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Uh So like I was thinking, you know, mostly uh,
Speaker 1: I guess what whatever would qualify as like hips or food.
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to that market right now, but uh,
Speaker 1: right now I'm working at a co op with like
Speaker 1: a food co op. Uh, and I'll be getting some
Speaker 1: more experience in that sort of market because it is
Speaker 1: kind of uh meant for I guess environmentalists and vegans
Speaker 1: and vegetarians, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Nice, nice, nice, This is cool. You got a little
Speaker 2: you gotta you got a real life going on. You
Speaker 2: gotta you got a wife too, Tell me about that.
Speaker 3: Oh many guys.
Speaker 1: Uh, this is gonna sound a little bit crazy, and
Speaker 1: I and I know it is. But no, I I've
Speaker 1: I've been seeing this girl for a while. She's she's
Speaker 1: been a you know, amazing part of my life. You know,
Speaker 1: we almost had had a child a few months ago,
Speaker 1: but she unfortunately miscarried.
Speaker 3: I'm ah, that's that.
Speaker 1: That was one of the things that I kind of
Speaker 1: took as a sign of, you know, maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: time to wait, no matter how you know depressing it is,
Speaker 1: but wait.
Speaker 2: Just real quick as you you breaface this by saying
Speaker 2: you were going to say something crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been together for less than a year,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's it's I I've connected very
Speaker 1: well with her and all of her family, and it's
Speaker 1: been the first time I really believe that I've you know,
Speaker 1: been a part of a family. I mean I've I've
Speaker 1: been pretty much traded and needs as a token piece
Speaker 1: for all of my life. And it's and it's nice
Speaker 1: to be able to, I guess, settle down and have
Speaker 1: a feeling of actual family rather than you know, being
Speaker 1: the oh yeah, you're too uh immature or fucking uh
Speaker 1: psychologically mangled in order to to have this child. So
Speaker 1: I get passed between parts of the reservation, in parts
Speaker 1: of Italy, parts of Malta, you know, farther up to
Speaker 1: the United States. You know, I live with my grandmother
Speaker 1: right now, So you know, it's it's at least unstable,
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of it gets it gets lonely. I mean,
Speaker 1: most of the time I'm here by myself, but I
Speaker 1: do plan on moving in with her pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, hmm hmm. I mean, look, man, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's that crazy. I think you've definitely been through a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff, and this is definitely providing you with
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you felt as though
Speaker 2: you didn't have when you were growing up, or that
Speaker 2: you are you know, I mean that you just didn't
Speaker 2: have in your life at all. But it's funny to
Speaker 2: me because despite everything that happened to you, you know,
Speaker 2: or maybe not even just maybe you know, would in
Speaker 2: spite be the same as despite I'm gonna say it is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's not crazy. I was just gonna
Speaker 2: say it's interesting because even though all that stuff happened, you,
Speaker 2: you know, you're a very you know, just at least
Speaker 2: from talking to you, you're a very mature guy, and
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of plans for your life. And
Speaker 2: you you know, despite all of the universe's attempts to
Speaker 2: fuck you up, you've stayed. It seems, at least to me,
Speaker 2: pretty resilient. So I admire that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's that's This is where I guess
Speaker 1: the downside's coming is. This is one of the things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about, is that you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like, despite I do believe I am a
Speaker 1: creative person, and I mean, I don't like to talk
Speaker 1: myself up. It feels a little bit wrong, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's been one of those things where you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many different things that I want to do,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I don't have the mental tools
Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot of the things
Speaker 1: that I want to do. And it's it's just been
Speaker 1: difficult because I mean, I love music, and I love art,
Speaker 1: and I love cooking. It just feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: whenever I try to do any of these things, it fails.
Speaker 1: But I and I have this issue where whenever I
Speaker 1: think I'm being smart about something, it's I have this dilemma.
Speaker 1: It's uh like I am either being stupid, which is
Speaker 1: causing me to feel like I'm being smart about it,
Speaker 1: or I'm you know, being smart about it, but I'm
Speaker 1: too I guess, uh too stupid. To realize that I'm
Speaker 1: that I'm being smart and I I've run to that
Speaker 1: issue a lot, so it ends up in me giving
Speaker 1: up on a lot of things that I do.
Speaker 2: Damn, I'm gonna be honest. I I you've lost me
Speaker 2: on this, but I would love to hear an example
Speaker 2: and maybe I'll understand.
Speaker 1: Well, like, uh, I, I I have a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, I talk my ass off. If you can't
Speaker 1: be if you can't tell already, you know, especially after
Speaker 1: I started doing you know, mushrooms and ship, you know,
Speaker 1: I I feel like my my voice has been more
Speaker 1: important to me than ever. And it's like I'll tell
Speaker 1: somebody an idea I have and the first thing I
Speaker 1: think is like, wow, this is such a smart idea,
Speaker 1: and then I go, no, I'm not being smart. This
Speaker 1: is probably something everybody else thought. I'm just being stupid
Speaker 1: and that's what's making.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, well, I'll tell you this
Speaker 2: much about what you just said just now is the
Speaker 2: and we're you know, look, I'm about to get all
Speaker 2: Tony Robbins on you and shit, But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone's had every smart idea, but it's about what you do, right,
Speaker 2: So look, I don't know. I don't know how active
Speaker 2: your plans are for this Tesla cafe. But it's about
Speaker 2: what you do. And when you're young, I feel like,
Speaker 2: I mean, don't go into a crazy amount of debt
Speaker 2: or you know, do something like fucking stupid. But when
Speaker 2: you're fucking nineteen, you can just you can just try stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, you can just go for it, especially right now,
Speaker 2: you know, when when you don't have a child. If
Speaker 2: you don't have a child and you don't have I mean,
Speaker 2: because that's a huge responsibility, and you know, nobody else
Speaker 2: is really like, uh, you know, depending on you to
Speaker 2: eat and live. You can kinda just take the time
Speaker 2: to screw around and see what happens. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what's great about that time in life. And it's cool
Speaker 2: that you have all these different ideas because you can
Speaker 2: just say fucking and give one a try.
Speaker 1: I just I definitely I worry about becoming my father,
Speaker 1: and I will explain that it's like he does this
Speaker 1: thing where he goes on these high rades about like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I should pitch this idea to fucking Elon
Speaker 1: Musk about you know, mining hydrogen on fucking whatever planet.
Speaker 1: And I'm like and then he sketches out this whole
Speaker 1: fucking thing, you know, does all this crazy shit for
Speaker 1: absolutely no reason, and then just sits on his ass,
Speaker 1: you know, and like he's not a bad dude.
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 1: Is a parasitic type. I will say, you know.
Speaker 2: He are you saying he's he's all talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1: Of the things that that kind of it makes me mad,
Speaker 1: to be honest. Like it it's like he talks himself
Speaker 1: up and talks up all of his ideas, but you know,
Speaker 1: he he never tries, and he puts down everybody in
Speaker 1: his way, like you know, he thinks that he's much
Speaker 1: smarter than everybody else. And and it's and it's it's
Speaker 1: sad to watch him, you know, burn through friendships and relationships.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't live with him, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't have the greatest of relationships. I mean I've I've
Speaker 1: beat the fuck out of him multiple times. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he but all all definitely deserves But you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just if that gives you any insight into
Speaker 1: the kind of person I guess maybe that I am,
Speaker 1: or that he.
Speaker 2: Is, well camp, I mean, you have a self awareness
Speaker 2: about this stuff. You have a model that you do
Speaker 2: not wish to follow, and so I think that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a helpful thing for you. I don't know what
Speaker 2: your dad's dad was like or if you thought the
Speaker 2: same thing about him, but mhmm, you know, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I just feel like if you have don't don't don't
Speaker 2: have so many ideas that you don't end up actually
Speaker 2: doing anything. You know. I think that. But you're a
Speaker 2: you've been through a lot, You're you're seemed to be
Speaker 2: an enterprising young guy, and so I would take whatever
Speaker 2: energy you have right now and instead of uh, you know,
Speaker 2: shutting your eyes and thinking as many fucking thoughts as
Speaker 2: you can possibly think and as many ideas about everything
Speaker 2: as you possibly can, just go and try some stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I it's it's it's definitely difficult, especially
Speaker 4: not having a uh, you know, a mode of transport
Speaker 4: or any capital.
Speaker 1: Like the jobs that I do work are strictly volunteer work.
Speaker 2: Uh Okay, So then why don't you want do you?
Speaker 2: Why don't you focus on whatever idea because look, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you have a billion ideas of things that you
Speaker 2: want to do. You talk about music, You talked about
Speaker 2: what whatnot. You're probably a little bit you Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: opening up a restaurant requires more capital than than you
Speaker 2: currently have, which is fine. But I'm sure you have
Speaker 2: plenty of ideas that don't require any capital or any
Speaker 2: or or you know, don't require you to leave your
Speaker 2: fucking computer. So why don't you start with those?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I think that it would be in
Speaker 1: my best interest. It's just you know, uh, I'm one
Speaker 1: of the people who who gets demotivated when I, uh
Speaker 1: don't do something correct or feel like I'm struggling learning something,
Speaker 1: and that's that's one of the things.
Speaker 2: But you just you're not You're not like a Zen
Speaker 2: mastered got You're like nineteen. Just just fuck around. Just
Speaker 2: just fu I swear to God, just like you can
Speaker 2: get so wrapped up in your own head about perfection
Speaker 2: and whatnot, but this fuck around, dude, don't don't attach
Speaker 2: you're attaching so much direness to it. It's not a
Speaker 2: dire thing. Just just just play. Okay, this is this
Speaker 2: should be play at this point.
Speaker 1: That you know. That's that's that's definitely uh, that's definitely right,
Speaker 1: you know. I I I tend to I guess worry
Speaker 1: about these things a little bit too much when uh,
Speaker 1: the only thing I can really do is don't have action,
Speaker 1: uh you know, and less.
Speaker 2: Like I was gonna say at this at this point,
Speaker 2: anything that you're doing that's not dealing drugs seems to
Speaker 2: be a pretty good good ah hobby or or endeavor
Speaker 2: for you to be doing.
Speaker 1: Is such it's it's like I will never recommend it,
Speaker 1: but I will say it is the easiest, fastest, and
Speaker 1: like least uh the you have to put the least
Speaker 1: amount of work in and and it's it's I think
Speaker 1: it's helped me. Like you know, I was gonna, uh,
Speaker 1: somebody owes me some money and the next time they
Speaker 1: pay me, I'm gonna be getting one of those Google certificates.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of those. They're like
Speaker 1: fifty bucks per month and you get to learn like.
Speaker 2: You can get you can get Google certified to be
Speaker 2: a crack dealer.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can get get like Google certified
Speaker 1: to like do like cybersecurity and like uh you know,
Speaker 1: business management and ship and you know they're like I
Speaker 1: I will never you know, if my my morals are
Speaker 1: I'm never going to sell any anything to anybody if
Speaker 1: I know that they're abusing it, or if it's like
Speaker 1: that's why I don't sell like cracker heroin. It's just
Speaker 1: like lead shrooms. If I have an access, then I
Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna go mouldy or something. You know,
Speaker 1: It's it's more just a it's definitely no Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: no scar face for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I like to do good with those motifcs. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess somebody's gotta deal shrooms. But
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I saying? Cam? You look, here's
Speaker 2: the thing I'm gonna and I'm gonna leave you with this.
Speaker 2: You have a billion ideas that you want to do.
Speaker 2: Go to one of them that's not selling pot or
Speaker 2: drugs or I mean, I mean sell pot. You can
Speaker 2: sell pot legally now soon to be able to probably
Speaker 2: just sell shrooms legally. So whatever, Maybe you will, maybe
Speaker 2: you'll have, maybe you'll have maybe eventually the law will
Speaker 2: catch up to that big brain of yours and you'll
Speaker 2: start the first shroom delivery, uh or whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: it is. But love, Cam, it's been nice talking to you, man,
Speaker 2: and thanks for sharing all this stuff, and I hope
Speaker 2: that things go well for you and uh, if I
Speaker 2: ever come to up to this uh Tesla place, I
Speaker 2: would like for you to give me a free grilled
Speaker 2: cheese sandwich dude.
Speaker 1: On the house. Everything anything you want. Man, you got it. Man,
Speaker 1: I do have if I'm not intruding at all, I
Speaker 1: do have one last piece of advice to like ask
Speaker 1: for you know, if it's if it's not you know,
Speaker 1: anything that would would bother you, what is it? Well,
Speaker 1: so recently I've been talking to my ex, not in
Speaker 1: any like weird way or anything like that. It's, you know,
Speaker 1: strictly a friendship thing because we used to we dated
Speaker 1: about six years ago, and uh, you know, she's she
Speaker 1: was a really close friend of mine, and I I
Speaker 1: don't like, do you think that's a bad idea? Like,
Speaker 1: it's not where we wouldn't get into into anything. You know,
Speaker 1: she's you know, been an amazing friend.
Speaker 2: And your fiance I know about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told her about it, but and she wasn't
Speaker 1: like yippy, But she also wasn't like her. That's fucking
Speaker 1: that's awful. Why would you do that? It was kind
Speaker 1: of a neutral thing. So yeah, that's been bearing in
Speaker 1: my mind.
Speaker 2: Feel terrible with this kind of stuff. Man, I got
Speaker 2: no idea. I mean, this is is just your friends, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I I I feel bad to a
Speaker 1: certain extent because, like I mean, it is somebody I
Speaker 1: used to date. But I am a very loyal person,
Speaker 1: so I know that I'm not going to do anything.
Speaker 1: And if she were to try to do anything, I
Speaker 1: know I would shut it down immediately.
Speaker 2: But I I would. Uh, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: want to tell you what to fuck it do, but
Speaker 2: mm hmm. But yeah, because I don't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck do I know? I don't know, man, Just focus
Speaker 2: on building your dude, you have way, do you have
Speaker 2: better things to worry about than this? Okay, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. I appreciate it though.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thank you for calling Cam, and
Speaker 2: good luck to you, and I will be back at
Speaker 2: some point to redeem that free girl cheese sandwich of course.
Speaker 5: Man, have a good one later.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't fucking know. I don't know the answers
Speaker 2: to when he said I like talking to him. I
Speaker 2: like talking to him about his history and his life
Speaker 2: and getting into who he is. But when he's like,
Speaker 2: can I have advice on if I should talk to
Speaker 2: any anytime someone's like, can I have advice on if
Speaker 2: I should talk to this girl or not? I'm like,
Speaker 2: I got I don't fucking know. I don't know at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about life. The if you're asking
Speaker 2: that question, the answer is usually like the answer the
Speaker 2: answer to that question. The answer to that question ninety
Speaker 2: seven percent of the time is probably not. But around
Speaker 2: ninety seven percent of the time you do it anyway
Speaker 2: because his brains emotions they're strong. Hello, Hello, Hi, who
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 5: This is Natalie?
Speaker 2: Well? What's oh god? All right? You have a dog?
Speaker 2: Can you? Can you throw your dog out out out
Speaker 2: in the garbage? Wabby talk?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, let me, yeah, give me one second, I'll
Speaker 5: put her in the garage.
Speaker 2: Cool. That's better. That's about That's a much better idea
Speaker 2: than what I said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure?
Speaker 2: Are you still there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I'd there. She should be good.
Speaker 2: Now, what's your name again?
Speaker 5: Natalie?
Speaker 2: Natalie? What's what's going on? How can I get you today?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 5: Funny story? Do you want the whole story or the
Speaker 5: short version?
Speaker 2: Let's start with the short version.
Speaker 5: My roommate matched with this guy on Tinder somehow, I
Speaker 5: started talking to him. Fast forward two months and now
Speaker 5: he's driving all the way from New York to Iola
Speaker 5: and is visiting me here. And I've never met him
Speaker 5: in person.
Speaker 2: And so he started out as I'm he matched with
Speaker 2: your friend and then used to how did you start
Speaker 2: talking to him after he matched with your friends? Uh?
Speaker 5: We I definitely catfished him for like an hour, and
Speaker 5: he thought I was my roommate and then it turned
Speaker 5: out to be me, and I don't know somehow he
Speaker 5: kept talking to me.
Speaker 2: What is what does that look like? Logistically? You can't
Speaker 2: fished him as your roommate. Your roommate? Is your friends
Speaker 2: that match with him?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, she's my best friend. She's my best friend.
Speaker 2: What does that look like? You like stole her phone
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was using her phone on her tender account
Speaker 5: and she was sitting next to me the whole time.
Speaker 2: Oh so it was like, haha, well, actually, here's the
Speaker 2: number of the person you've been talking to.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Did your friend like this guy? Did this? Did that
Speaker 2: upset her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: She was Actually she's actually really happy for me. But
Speaker 5: it's kind of funny now listening to the story because
Speaker 5: he never actually talked to her. He just saw her
Speaker 5: pictures and matched with him.
Speaker 2: He knows, he knows that it's he's talking to you, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, he does know that he's talking to me. We
Speaker 5: face times and all of that stuff since then, so
Speaker 5: he knows who I am.
Speaker 2: Now, why is your friend matching with dudes in New
Speaker 2: York if she lives in Iowa? Is she doing like
Speaker 2: the passport thing?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, he's actually in the military. So he was visiting
Speaker 5: his family in Iowa and then went back to New
Speaker 5: York like the day after we started talking.
Speaker 2: And how long have you been talking to this guy?
Speaker 5: Like two months now? We just hit like sixty day
Speaker 5: streak on snapchat, Aisle.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about him coming to visit you.
Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous. I'm not gonna lie because in reality,
Speaker 5: he literally could murder me, Like I don't know this
Speaker 5: man really besides over the phone.
Speaker 2: You know that is true. That is the risk that
Speaker 2: you run every time a stranger comes to your house.
Speaker 5: Yes, and he's staying at my house, like he's staying here.
Speaker 5: He's not staying at a hotel, he's not staying with
Speaker 5: his parents. He's like staying here?
Speaker 2: How long is he supposed to stay there for?
Speaker 5: Just over the weekends? Like three nights? Not too bad?
Speaker 2: Okay, is your roommate gonna be there?
Speaker 5: I think she's gonna be here a little bit of
Speaker 5: the time, but she might just stay with her parents
Speaker 5: at least one of the nights.
Speaker 2: You know. What's so funny is do you remember how
Speaker 2: old are you?
Speaker 5: I'm twenty two.
Speaker 2: Okay. When I think, do you remember taking like webs
Speaker 2: safety classes in school?
Speaker 5: I do remember that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when they told us they were like
Speaker 2: they said things like never give your real name out
Speaker 2: on the internet. That's what they started with.
Speaker 5: They really did. But here I am giving my entire
Speaker 5: address this man.
Speaker 2: Right, they And it's funny, how like because this was
Speaker 2: in like elementary school. So I was in elementary school
Speaker 2: what I don't like two thousand and eight or something
Speaker 2: like that, and the Internet has changed to the point
Speaker 2: where everyone is giving out just their full address and
Speaker 2: social security number. Like giving your real name out on
Speaker 2: the internet is like nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, are you suggesting I give my social Security
Speaker 5: number to this man?
Speaker 2: Is he offering you some kind of investment opportunity?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I guess
Speaker 5: I'll find out tomorrow when he gets here.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you meeting him in like where is it?
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna meet him? Like at your house?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like, he won't get here till like eleven pm
Speaker 5: twelve am tomorrow night, So it's gonna be in the
Speaker 5: dark in front of my house. Literally could be a
Speaker 5: horror movie plot.
Speaker 2: I mean, would it make you feel better to like
Speaker 2: meet him in a not dark, late night place.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, I haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 5: I was just kind of like why not. You know,
Speaker 5: there's the first time for everything, and hopefully it goes
Speaker 5: good and not bad. Very optimistic.
Speaker 2: Is has throughout the twelve different throughout the two months
Speaker 2: that you've been talking to him every day, has there
Speaker 2: been any inkling, indication intuition that he might try to
Speaker 2: kill you?
Speaker 5: No? No, he seems nice. He seems like a good guy,
Speaker 5: a good stable guy. He gets out of the military
Speaker 5: in May, so we'll see what happens after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you have you ever done anything like this before?
Speaker 5: No? No, I haven't. I was in a four year
Speaker 5: long relationship that I've got out of like six six
Speaker 5: six six months ago, and this is like the first
Speaker 5: guy I'm talking to again that I'm like serious about
Speaker 5: and kind of like, so hopefully I still like him
Speaker 5: when I meet him in person.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't wanna. I don't want to
Speaker 2: undercut your intuition because you uh, you know, have the
Speaker 2: agency that you know, do whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 2: So I guess, So, I guess all I can do
Speaker 2: is hope that he doesn't kill you. I don't think
Speaker 2: this guy is going to kill you. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm a I am myself. I'm a fairly
Speaker 2: trusting person. I think, I'm i'm. I try to assume
Speaker 2: the best in people. I think. I'll say this, I
Speaker 2: think mathematically, mathematically, the amount of people in the world
Speaker 2: that want to kill you is so significantly smaller than
Speaker 2: the amount of people who don't want to kill you.
Speaker 5: For sure. Have you ever done anything like this while.
Speaker 2: Like meta stranger from the Internet, Well, I.
Speaker 5: Mean sure, but like randomly at a dark place after
Speaker 5: talking to them for a couple of months, and.
Speaker 2: Probably I'm I'm sure I used to tinder a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I did something like that in the in
Speaker 2: the Tindering days.
Speaker 5: Oh, for sure, So you're alive. So hopefully I'm also
Speaker 5: still alive by Friday morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I mean look, I mean, look, if you're feeling that
Speaker 2: unsure about it, you could always be like, hey, why
Speaker 2: don't you get a hotel and then we can meet tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I think I'm just anxious about it right now.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, are you anxious, like just like from
Speaker 2: a social standpoint, are you like just first date sort
Speaker 2: of anxiety?
Speaker 5: I think so, Yeah, but it's just like a lot
Speaker 5: of build up since it's like two months of first
Speaker 5: date anxiety.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sure, I just met him three days ago and we're
Speaker 5: going on our first date. It's like, no, two months.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, don't do anything that you know
Speaker 2: it makes you you you have a bad feeling about.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm gonna manifest. I used to. I
Speaker 2: used to make fun of manifesting, and I still don't.
Speaker 2: I still think it's a little stupid, but I kind
Speaker 2: of I'm kind of coming around to it. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: manifest that this guy doesn't kill you and that you
Speaker 2: have a fun and a wonderful time with him throughout
Speaker 2: the visit.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that manifesting all the positive vibes for me
Speaker 5: and my roommate who has to deal with this random
Speaker 5: guy in her house for the next few days.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have your roommates stay home for a little bit,
Speaker 2: just in case. It's not a horrible idea.
Speaker 5: Okay, but she is. She's she's gonna be my wing woman,
Speaker 5: so she'll be there to support me at least the
Speaker 5: first night, and then she can.
Speaker 2: You know what you should do? Actually is you should
Speaker 2: you know what you should do? You should have her
Speaker 2: answer the door and be like it act Shelly was
Speaker 2: me the whole time.
Speaker 5: That would be hilarious. Maybe I will do that, say
Speaker 5: that she was telling me what to say?
Speaker 2: Oh, she was telling you what to say?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because if any time, he obviously saw my face. Yea,
Speaker 5: So maybe she was just texting me the whole time.
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Natalie? Natalie? Is there anything else
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 2: before we go?
Speaker 5: No, you're the best. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Natalie. I hope that you don't die, unless if
Speaker 2: it's like of old age, which wouldn't wouldn't be for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 5: I don't think no, for sure. I hope you don't
Speaker 5: die either.
Speaker 1: Lyle.
Speaker 2: Thanks man, see you later.
Speaker 3: Okay, bye, it's a while.
Speaker 2: Uh, dude, I wanted to call you because so U.
Speaker 2: Last week we got a phone call from this girl
Speaker 2: who was talking about how this dude that she met
Speaker 2: on the internet and has never met in real life
Speaker 2: and she's been talking to him for about two months
Speaker 2: is going to drive fifteen hours to spend the weekend
Speaker 2: at her house, and she was afraid that this guy
Speaker 2: was going to kill her, but also was looking forward
Speaker 2: to the potential of, of course that not happening, and
Speaker 2: of this being a fun weekend of bonding and merriment.
Speaker 2: And then I got a text from you saying that
Speaker 2: you are the guy and you wanted to let me
Speaker 2: know how the weekend went.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the weekend was great.
Speaker 2: And this is a and I want to point out
Speaker 2: this is from a different phone, which means that you
Speaker 2: did not kill her, steal her front, steal her phone
Speaker 2: and text me from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, she's totally alive.
Speaker 7: She's alive, and well great, she's her roommate's watching this.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: The weekend went great.
Speaker 7: I actually got an extended stay because I had car
Speaker 7: issues and I couldn't get back to New York, so
Speaker 7: actually instead of leaving on Monday, by some Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I mean, tell me how the weekend went.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 7: The first few days were a little shaky, just getting
Speaker 7: to know her. When I showed up at one am,
Speaker 7: it was super awkward. Her and he roommate were just
Speaker 7: sitting in the living room, like like parents when you
Speaker 7: come home late at night. But like she hugged me,
Speaker 7: I wasn't. I wasn't expecting. I thought we were going
Speaker 7: to like maybe I was gonna sleep on the couch
Speaker 7: or something. But all seemed to go well right off
Speaker 7: the bat. And then I got a shower, and then
Speaker 7: we slept, and then Friday and Saturday were really busy.
Speaker 3: I met her parents. She met my parents. I don't
Speaker 3: know why, but we did, and that went well.
Speaker 2: Wait, so she met your parents. Do your parents live
Speaker 2: in this place that you went to? I don't don't.
Speaker 2: Do they not live where you live?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: I live up here because, as she said, I'm in
Speaker 7: the I'm in the Army, but you know I'm from
Speaker 7: I'm from Iowa.
Speaker 3: I'm from near where she lives now.
Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, So you two met each other's parents, and
Speaker 2: then did you explain to her parents the circumstances of
Speaker 2: you guys meeting and how you've only known each other
Speaker 2: for like a day.
Speaker 7: Her parents knew everything about me before I even saw them.
Speaker 7: She was she was given them all the info in case,
Speaker 7: I guess, in case if I killed her or something,
Speaker 7: which I didn't.
Speaker 2: And how was your interaction with her parents?
Speaker 7: Do her parents are so cool?
Speaker 3: I get along with her dad so well, and.
Speaker 7: Her mom's really funny, and and they were.
Speaker 3: They were really cool about the whole thing.
Speaker 7: Her mom was asking for updates like the whole time
Speaker 7: I was there, mmmm, which was funny.
Speaker 2: How how deep into the weekend did you talk to
Speaker 2: her mom?
Speaker 7: I saw them on on oh, I want to say
Speaker 7: this Saturday morning. Saturday morning, and then I met her
Speaker 7: parents for breakfast with her grandma, and then we went
Speaker 7: to her other grandparents' house and I met her aunt
Speaker 7: and her other grandparents and we all hung out as
Speaker 7: like a group.
Speaker 3: I met her brother. But that's that's all of the
Speaker 3: interaction I had with them.
Speaker 2: Did anyone from the family seem to be wary of you.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think so. They were all pretty welcoming.
Speaker 7: I think it's just because I don't know they She
Speaker 7: gave them good good word on me before I met them.
Speaker 2: Mhm. Okay. Now, I remember from my conversation with her
Speaker 2: that you initially had matched with her her roommate on
Speaker 2: the dating app, and you were talking to her roommate,
Speaker 2: and then she started texting you from her roommate's tender.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, And now when you were there was any part
Speaker 2: of you like like you were you glad that it
Speaker 2: was horror and not the roommate.
Speaker 7: Not not in a negative way towards her roommate, but yeah,
Speaker 7: I was her. Her roommate's not just not not my style.
Speaker 7: She definitely has way more of my style, which was nice.
Speaker 2: It's a very you know what, that's a very that's
Speaker 2: a very diplomatic answer to what I'm just realizing was
Speaker 2: a trick question that I gave you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't want to sound like a dick on
Speaker 7: the phone. You know, her roommate's watching.
Speaker 2: Now where are you now? Are you back on on base?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'm an I'm back back in New York?
Speaker 2: Okay, Are you going to go back to Iowa anytime soon?
Speaker 7: We've talked about me visiting for Thanksgiving, and I'm definitely
Speaker 7: visiting for Christmas. It's just, you know, financially and with
Speaker 7: my car problems, I don't know, it can be tough
Speaker 7: to visit as often as I want to.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I mean, like in the future, are you
Speaker 2: planning to go back to Iowa? Are you going to
Speaker 2: stay in New York?
Speaker 3: Oh? No?
Speaker 7: What So I get out of the Army in May,
Speaker 7: and I'm I'm definitely moving back to Iowa for at
Speaker 7: least a little bit. I'm probably going to live in
Speaker 7: the same area that she lives in now. And I've
Speaker 7: even talked to her because my parents said I could
Speaker 7: bring a friend with. We're going on a trip to
Speaker 7: Germany in May, and I talked to her maybe I'd
Speaker 7: take her with because she likes to travel.
Speaker 2: That's all. Do you wait? Can you call her? Can
Speaker 2: we three way? You guys in I feel like I
Speaker 2: talked to her, I haven't. I feel like I talked
Speaker 2: to her beforehand, I talked to you after and now
Speaker 2: I want to talk to both of you guys at once.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know how to how to add someone into
Speaker 7: the call.
Speaker 3: If you could help me, see, oh here we go.
Speaker 3: H yeah, well she had this goes all right?
Speaker 2: Sweet, it's a three way call all time. Natalie, He's here, Natalie, Hey, Natalie,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 5: Nothing much?
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. It's good to speak with you again.
Speaker 2: This is cool. I don't usually do follow ups, but
Speaker 2: after that last call, I remember there being a lot
Speaker 2: of people in the chat being like, you should call
Speaker 2: her to make sure she wasn't killed by that guy,
Speaker 2: And it appears you were not.
Speaker 6: No, I am thankful to report that he did not
Speaker 6: show up here and kill me.
Speaker 2: And you had your room. You were like debating whether
Speaker 2: or not your roommate was going to stay there with
Speaker 2: you too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my roommate did end up staying the whole time,
Speaker 6: So that was nice as a nice little backup just
Speaker 6: in case anything did happen.
Speaker 2: So what's what was your review of the weekend?
Speaker 6: I would say the weekend went well. We got along
Speaker 6: really well, and we had conversations every day. I don't
Speaker 6: really think we got tired of each other that easily.
Speaker 6: And yeah, it was good.
Speaker 2: We're still talking nice nice. I guess is there anything
Speaker 2: in particular that you you were talking about on our
Speaker 2: last call that you want to update anyone about, or
Speaker 2: or any details that you want to share with the
Speaker 2: people about the the ending to this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it really was kind of funny because the
Speaker 6: first day we actually hung out is when his car
Speaker 6: broke down, and it could have gone terribly and he
Speaker 6: could have we were out of pumpkin patch and he
Speaker 6: could have gotten really mad and like just yelled and
Speaker 6: then a terrible human being and acted really negatively towards it.
Speaker 6: He ended up laughing, which I think was a good,
Speaker 6: like silly way to start the weekend, and then obviously
Speaker 6: end it with a joke. And so it did go
Speaker 6: really well and I didn't die, and I'm very thankful
Speaker 6: for that, and so everybody in the chat should be
Speaker 6: happy that I'm safe and sound and still in Iowa, alive.
Speaker 5: And breathe it.
Speaker 2: Would you recommend to other people that they invite strangers
Speaker 2: from the internet to their house at the middle of
Speaker 2: the night so that they can have similar beautiful experiences
Speaker 2: as you, I.
Speaker 6: Would say if you have facetimed them beforehand and know
Speaker 6: stuff about them, then sure, why not? But if it's
Speaker 6: someone you've only texted for like a day, maybe.
Speaker 2: Not so much. What's the guy's name again, Lucas, Lucas, Lucas?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 7: Don't show up at random people's houses because I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's scary.
Speaker 2: What did your parents think about all this stuff?
Speaker 3: My parents were just like you.
Speaker 7: As long as you don't end up ballgags in her basement,
Speaker 7: it's okay.
Speaker 3: And even if that does happen, just try to wait
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 7: They're very supportive.
Speaker 2: See that's true. You could have killed him too, you
Speaker 2: know what, I could have.
Speaker 7: He said that he purposely.
Speaker 2: He said that he.
Speaker 6: Purposely took duct tape out of his bag so that
Speaker 6: we didn't think he was some sort of serial killer.
Speaker 2: Why do you keep duct tape in your bag?
Speaker 7: I keep duct tape in super glue on me all
Speaker 7: the time.
Speaker 2: Have you read to use it?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're super glue. I don't know. I like
Speaker 3: to I like quick, easy way to fix things. I
Speaker 3: would have used it on my.
Speaker 7: Car if it wasn't metal.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys, stay on your shoes around each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, take care guys, Thank you very much, talk
Speaker 2: to you later. That was nice. I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't I remember. I think on the last call when
Speaker 2: I was talking to Natalie about all of this stuff,
Speaker 2: it was it was a little strange, right, But I
Speaker 2: was a little agnostic about it, right, because it's like,
Speaker 2: well and on you know, meeting a stranger from the internet,
Speaker 2: high risk, medium to high reward, right because well, you
Speaker 2: the risk is that the person kills you, but the like,
Speaker 2: that's the worst possible that could happen. But the best
Speaker 2: thing that could happen is that you get married and
Speaker 2: have children and live forever and ever happily and the
Speaker 2: best thing that's ever happened to you in your life.
Speaker 2: And blah blah blah blah blah. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess it's high risk, high reward, but you know,
Speaker 2: don't don't bring duct tape if you're gonna do that.
Speaker 3: Ben goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 6: The Repacon goes do it to ride.
Speaker 2: He's teaching you cloud in the mind of your life,
Speaker 2: but he's not ready. An expert