1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: All from Rati tug Satte. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name? 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, you can call me Cam, because I mean, I'm 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: sure my name is kind of hard to pronounce. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: What's your name? 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Ratieron tug Satte. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Say one more time? 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Ratzer on tug sat. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: Ratieran pag sat Yes. Why why did you shorten that 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: to Cam? 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, so it's it's it's a long story. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: So I grew up in a part of the Iroquois 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Confederacy and basically I'm Mohawk, uh native. Uh So we 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: have names that are given to us by shaman, and 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: then we have our birth certificate names, which is usually Americanized. 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so your Americanized birth certificate name is Cam, 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: and uh, your your real name is the other one? 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: What are your friends call you? 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh? They just called me Cam. 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 2: Does anyone call you by your real name? 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: No? Because I mean I moved out a little bit ago, 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: just off the border of our reservation. Uh about nine 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: years ago. I would say, mm hmm. 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: How old are you? 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm about to turn nineteen? 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh cool man. Uh. Where where was your reservation again? 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: It's in upstate New York. Uh, it's uh called AQUOSOSNY. 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of it? 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Is it like a well known reservation? 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that. How big is it spans 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: from about I'm bad with my Canadian Uh what would 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: you say? Like geography? I think like under Quebec and 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: then it goes all the way to like downstate New. 36 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: York and you go up there your whole life. 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: I I spent some time in Italy. That's pretty much 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: all of my heritage is Native and Italian, so I've 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: been hopping through families pretty much all of my life. 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: What was it like growing up on the reservation. 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I could definitely get into a lot 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: of the dark history of stuff up here. Well, we 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: have a lot of gangs up here that are run 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: by you know MS thirteen. We have like a separate branch, 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: so the way that a lot of things work up 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: here anyway, I guess you can break down gang activity throughout. 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean even just the United States is a total 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: of you know, easiest, easiest borders to enter and a 50 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: lot we get a lot of opium and cracked and 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: mess and stuff like that up here, So you know, 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of poverty and a lot of our 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: just an upstate New York in general, our kind of 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: local culture is propped up by drugs. 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: Mhm. And are you were you ever involved in any 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: of that stuff growing up or stay away from it? 57 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a yes and no. I guess my 58 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: parents met my my father was selling drugs to people, uh, 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: you know all throughout uh you know the reservation him 60 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and another like addict were you know, using a uh 61 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: charity organization too, I guess money through and that's where 62 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: he met my mom, who was using at the time. 63 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: And you know, there was a lot of uh drama there. 64 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: But I mean on my my mom's side of the family, 65 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot of run ins with mafia, especially 66 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: in Drague. I don't know if you've heard of it. 67 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: It's uh Sicilian mafia. My let's see my what third cousin, 68 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I would say, uh was pretty close with I'm trying 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: to think of Tony Bennett. 70 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: I don't do you know that musician Tony Bennett. 71 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: No. 72 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: I think if the opening song of good Fellas, I 73 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: think he Rags to riches he wrote that song, well, 74 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: uh so hypothetically allegedly, how However, I may phrase it 75 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to uh not land any of us in any trouble. 76 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: But they lived with each other in Watertown, New York 77 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: for a while, and his fame was pretty much brought 78 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: up on money being funneled through local mafia sect, I guess, 79 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: you could say. And that's one of the many things 80 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: that brought you know, his rise to fame. And that's 81 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: where that side of the family got, I guess connected 82 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: with some of the mafia. And I do have some 83 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters back home, like in Italy anyway that 84 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: that do still run. The only things that I have 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: ever done I washed bitcoin through several cash app accounts. 86 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: Somebody would make a purchase on some form of illegal 87 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: goods and I would get the bitcoin, take ten percent 88 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: of it, and then send it through multiple accounts to 89 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: get to the main account. But I stopped doing that, 90 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: especially because recently have started to actually have a family, 91 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, uh my my girlfriend soon to be fiance, 92 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, has has been a major part of my life. 93 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: And that's the reason I won't go to the military 94 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: now is because I'm I'm I don't want to risk 95 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: any of that anymore. And I mean I could very well, 96 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: you know, go into you know, criminal organizations at any 97 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: moment in time, or do more than selling weed. I mean, 98 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: of course, I mean everybody up here pushes at least 99 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: announced a month, like but you know, that's really nothing 100 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. 101 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: But I have to ask you before you continue any further. 102 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Are you about to get whacked for talking about all 103 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: this on the Gecko Show? 104 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I mean, a lot of the 105 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: people who I mentioned are dead, and a lot of 106 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the people are either arrested, and a lot of a 107 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of the people that I I do know who 108 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: are you know, currently engaged in this sort of behavior, 109 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: are usually across seas and whatnot. I did want to 110 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: bring up one thing, but before I forgot I did 111 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: call you at one point. Do you remember the name 112 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Peeballs Pretzel shop by any chance? 113 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I do, I do remember that. Yeah, it was 114 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: in front the whole time. The pretzel shop was just 115 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: a front. 116 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no fucking I got that removed by the way. 117 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Just so then, like, if I ever were to call 118 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: you again, you wouldn't you know, get a little bit worried, 119 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, for my safety. 120 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: Damn, dude, I don't remember what we talked about or whatever. 121 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: I think I was probably yeah, pretty much, Yeah, I 122 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: do remember that. But but that aside. Hmmm, well, okay, 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of questions. Okay, first of all, 124 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: what do you mean isn't weeds legal in New York? Well, 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: how are they pushing an ounce of weed? 126 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Well, because everybody grows I mean legal, you know. It's 127 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: you You can go to like any neighborhood, any you know, 128 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: like little crack house on the side, and you'd be like, hey, 129 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: can I go see your shed? And you'll probably see 130 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: like at least ten plants. It's it's technically you're not 131 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: supposed to have that many plants. But at this point, 132 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, so many people are growing that there's pretty 133 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: much nothing anybody can do. Especially the cops around here 134 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: are fucking awful at their job. Like you know, uh, 135 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: the amount of shit that people do on the daily. 136 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: It's just impossible to regulate, especially because so much of 137 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: our like I was saying before, our economy has propped 138 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: up so much on a legal drug use. We ye 139 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: some of the like In the town that I live 140 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in right now, we have three main restaurants that are 141 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: all run by this one guy, and he was pushing 142 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: coke to probably the entire North Country. It's it's it's 143 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: been a not very hidden thing, especially. 144 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: I mean, your life is a movie, you know. 145 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: I probably have the most boring life out of any 146 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: of all these crack heads up here. 147 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: Cam are you Okay? 148 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm fucking wonderful. If it's a breathing thing, it's 149 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: because I'm smoking a cigarette. 150 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because you're breathing heavily. And I didn't know 151 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: if you were having a heart attack or what was 152 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: going on. But I want to know. I it's been 153 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: cool hearing about the don't know a cool, but it's 154 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: been it's been interesting hearing about the the lore of 155 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: your town and your family. But like, tell me about you, Like, 156 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: so you were what what working washing bitcoin for some 157 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: mafia folks, and now you're eighteen nineteen and you're you're 158 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: moving out where you like You're You're not still on 159 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: the reservation, right, No. 160 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm like right on the outskirts. I mean it's right now. 161 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm most just focusing on, you know, working volunteering so 162 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I can become a chef. I'm planning on going to 163 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: the culinary and stud of America sometime next year. Yeah, 164 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: it's I'll be one of the one of the first 165 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: people maybe other than like two people my family actually 166 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: went to college and completed it because of you know, 167 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: all the crazy shit that happened is up here. 168 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: And so you're gonna go for culinary and what what's 169 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: your what's your ultimate goal? You want to be a chef? 170 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 171 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of my plans I was making with my 172 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: friend is that we were going to run a place 173 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: from there's this big highway that goes from like pretty 174 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: much the all of the East Coast, you know, through 175 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore to all the way up to New York. And 176 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to open up some lounges for electric cars 177 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: where you could like, you know, sit down, eat, you know, 178 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe hang out, have a drink, you know, play some 179 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: arcade games, whatever the fuck while you wait for your 180 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: car to charge. I've been recently writing a menu for it, 181 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, trademarking some ship. But that's that's pretty much 182 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: my goal right now. 183 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: And you know, do you have to have an electric 184 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: car to go to this restaurant? 185 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Well no, but it certainly is definitely going to be 186 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: built around that. I mean, I hope to have things 187 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: be uh, you know, mostly environmentally friendly. You know stuff 188 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: that I guess if you your average electric car user, 189 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, smug as a motherfucker thinks that they're great 190 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: for the environment even though they perpetuate you know, child 191 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: slavery and fucking uh mines in Africa sort of thing. 192 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: You know. 193 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: It's like all that organic food stuff. Like, hey, I'm 194 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: into it, like like definitely, don't get me wrong in that, Like, 195 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm into it, but I think it will be a 196 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: good uh and easy an easy market to corner. 197 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: Give me some menu items, are we is this like 198 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: a chuck e cheese style chili fries, hamburger shit? Or 199 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: are we going classes? Let's just throw me some menu items. 200 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: Well, right now, I'm working on breakfast items. I learned 201 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: how to make a really amazing Hollandais sauce. I was 202 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: one of the only people in my culinary class before 203 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: to actually pretty much get it on the first try. 204 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: I had some experience at one of the places up 205 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: here I don't really remember the name right now, but 206 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: they were voted by the New York Times of having 207 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: the best Hollandais sauce. But I wanted to play around 208 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: with that sum for you know, morning options I wanted 209 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: to Right now, I'm more in the stage of not 210 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: necessarily the actual menu creation rather than ingredients that would 211 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: work well in this sort of thing. I was thinking 212 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of pescatarian stuff. I mean, I my some 213 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: of my family right now, you know, deliver fish some 214 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: of the best quality like thirty eight dollars per pounds 215 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: to salmon, shit like that. 216 00:12:59,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: You know. 217 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Uh So like I was thinking, you know, mostly uh, 218 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: I guess what whatever would qualify as like hips or food. 219 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to that market right now, but uh, 220 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: right now I'm working at a co op with like 221 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: a food co op. Uh, and I'll be getting some 222 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: more experience in that sort of market because it is 223 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: kind of uh meant for I guess environmentalists and vegans 224 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: and vegetarians, et cetera. 225 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Nice, nice, nice, This is cool. You got a little 226 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: you gotta you got a real life going on. You 227 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: gotta you got a wife too, Tell me about that. 228 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: Oh many guys. 229 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Uh, this is gonna sound a little bit crazy, and 230 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I and I know it is. But no, I I've 231 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I've been seeing this girl for a while. She's she's 232 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: been a you know, amazing part of my life. You know, 233 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: we almost had had a child a few months ago, 234 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: but she unfortunately miscarried. 235 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: I'm ah, that's that. 236 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that I kind of 237 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: took as a sign of, you know, maybe maybe it's 238 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: time to wait, no matter how you know depressing it is, 239 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: but wait. 240 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: Just real quick as you you breaface this by saying 241 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: you were going to say something crazy. 242 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been together for less than a year, 243 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's it's I I've connected very 244 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: well with her and all of her family, and it's 245 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: been the first time I really believe that I've you know, 246 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: been a part of a family. I mean I've I've 247 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: been pretty much traded and needs as a token piece 248 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: for all of my life. And it's and it's nice 249 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: to be able to, I guess, settle down and have 250 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: a feeling of actual family rather than you know, being 251 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the oh yeah, you're too uh immature or fucking uh 252 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: psychologically mangled in order to to have this child. So 253 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: I get passed between parts of the reservation, in parts 254 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: of Italy, parts of Malta, you know, farther up to 255 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: the United States. You know, I live with my grandmother 256 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: right now, So you know, it's it's at least unstable, 257 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of it gets it gets lonely. I mean, 258 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: most of the time I'm here by myself, but I 259 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: do plan on moving in with her pretty soon. 260 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, hmm hmm. I mean, look, man, I don't think 261 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: that's that crazy. I think you've definitely been through a 262 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: lot of stuff, and this is definitely providing you with 263 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you felt as though 264 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: you didn't have when you were growing up, or that 265 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: you are you know, I mean that you just didn't 266 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: have in your life at all. But it's funny to 267 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: me because despite everything that happened to you, you know, 268 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: or maybe not even just maybe you know, would in 269 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: spite be the same as despite I'm gonna say it is. 270 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's not crazy. I was just gonna 271 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: say it's interesting because even though all that stuff happened, you, 272 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: you know, you're a very you know, just at least 273 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: from talking to you, you're a very mature guy, and 274 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of plans for your life. And 275 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: you you know, despite all of the universe's attempts to 276 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: fuck you up, you've stayed. It seems, at least to me, 277 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: pretty resilient. So I admire that. 278 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's that's This is where I guess 279 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the downside's coming is. This is one of the things 280 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about, is that you know, 281 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: I feel like, despite I do believe I am a 282 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: creative person, and I mean, I don't like to talk 283 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: myself up. It feels a little bit wrong, but you know, 284 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: it's it's been one of those things where you know, 285 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: there's so many different things that I want to do, 286 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: but I feel like I don't have the mental tools 287 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot of the things 288 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: that I want to do. And it's it's just been 289 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: difficult because I mean, I love music, and I love art, 290 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: and I love cooking. It just feels like, you know, 291 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: whenever I try to do any of these things, it fails. 292 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: But I and I have this issue where whenever I 293 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: think I'm being smart about something, it's I have this dilemma. 294 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: It's uh like I am either being stupid, which is 295 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: causing me to feel like I'm being smart about it, 296 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: or I'm you know, being smart about it, but I'm 297 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: too I guess, uh too stupid. To realize that I'm 298 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: that I'm being smart and I I've run to that 299 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: issue a lot, so it ends up in me giving 300 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: up on a lot of things that I do. 301 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Damn, I'm gonna be honest. I I you've lost me 302 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: on this, but I would love to hear an example 303 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: and maybe I'll understand. 304 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, like, uh, I, I I have a lot of 305 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, I talk my ass off. If you can't 306 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: be if you can't tell already, you know, especially after 307 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: I started doing you know, mushrooms and ship, you know, 308 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: I I feel like my my voice has been more 309 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: important to me than ever. And it's like I'll tell 310 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: somebody an idea I have and the first thing I 311 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: think is like, wow, this is such a smart idea, 312 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: and then I go, no, I'm not being smart. This 313 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: is probably something everybody else thought. I'm just being stupid 314 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: and that's what's making. 315 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, well, I'll tell you this 316 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: much about what you just said just now is the 317 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: and we're you know, look, I'm about to get all 318 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: Tony Robbins on you and shit, But I mean, yeah, 319 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: everyone's had every smart idea, but it's about what you do, right, 320 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: So look, I don't know. I don't know how active 321 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: your plans are for this Tesla cafe. But it's about 322 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: what you do. And when you're young, I feel like, 323 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean, don't go into a crazy amount of debt 324 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: or you know, do something like fucking stupid. But when 325 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: you're fucking nineteen, you can just you can just try stuff. 326 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: You know, you can just go for it, especially right now, 327 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: you know, when when you don't have a child. If 328 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: you don't have a child and you don't have I mean, 329 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: because that's a huge responsibility, and you know, nobody else 330 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: is really like, uh, you know, depending on you to 331 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: eat and live. You can kinda just take the time 332 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: to screw around and see what happens. I mean, that's 333 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: what's great about that time in life. And it's cool 334 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: that you have all these different ideas because you can 335 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: just say fucking and give one a try. 336 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I just I definitely I worry about becoming my father, 337 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: and I will explain that it's like he does this 338 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: thing where he goes on these high rades about like, 339 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I should pitch this idea to fucking Elon 340 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: Musk about you know, mining hydrogen on fucking whatever planet. 341 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like and then he sketches out this whole 342 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: fucking thing, you know, does all this crazy shit for 343 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: absolutely no reason, and then just sits on his ass, 344 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, and like he's not a bad dude. 345 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: But he. 346 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Is a parasitic type. I will say, you know. 347 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: He are you saying he's he's all talk. 348 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one. 349 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Of the things that that kind of it makes me mad, 350 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: to be honest. Like it it's like he talks himself 351 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: up and talks up all of his ideas, but you know, 352 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: he he never tries, and he puts down everybody in 353 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: his way, like you know, he thinks that he's much 354 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: smarter than everybody else. And and it's and it's it's 355 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: sad to watch him, you know, burn through friendships and relationships. 356 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't live with him, you know, we 357 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: don't have the greatest of relationships. I mean I've I've 358 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: beat the fuck out of him multiple times. You know, 359 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: he's he but all all definitely deserves But you know, 360 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: it's it's just if that gives you any insight into 361 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: the kind of person I guess maybe that I am, 362 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: or that he. 363 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: Is, well camp, I mean, you have a self awareness 364 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: about this stuff. You have a model that you do 365 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: not wish to follow, and so I think that's gonna 366 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: be a helpful thing for you. I don't know what 367 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: your dad's dad was like or if you thought the 368 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: same thing about him, but mhmm, you know, yeah, man, 369 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: I just feel like if you have don't don't don't 370 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 2: have so many ideas that you don't end up actually 371 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: doing anything. You know. I think that. But you're a 372 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: you've been through a lot, You're you're seemed to be 373 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: an enterprising young guy, and so I would take whatever 374 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: energy you have right now and instead of uh, you know, 375 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: shutting your eyes and thinking as many fucking thoughts as 376 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: you can possibly think and as many ideas about everything 377 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: as you possibly can, just go and try some stuff. 378 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I it's it's it's definitely difficult, especially 379 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: not having a uh, you know, a mode of transport 380 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: or any capital. 381 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Like the jobs that I do work are strictly volunteer work. 382 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: Uh Okay, So then why don't you want do you? 383 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: Why don't you focus on whatever idea because look, I'm 384 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: sure you have a billion ideas of things that you 385 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: want to do. You talk about music, You talked about 386 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: what whatnot. You're probably a little bit you Yeah, you know, 387 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: opening up a restaurant requires more capital than than you 388 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: currently have, which is fine. But I'm sure you have 389 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: plenty of ideas that don't require any capital or any 390 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: or or you know, don't require you to leave your 391 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: fucking computer. So why don't you start with those? 392 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I think that it would be in 393 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: my best interest. It's just you know, uh, I'm one 394 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: of the people who who gets demotivated when I, uh 395 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: don't do something correct or feel like I'm struggling learning something, 396 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: and that's that's one of the things. 397 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: But you just you're not You're not like a Zen 398 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: mastered got You're like nineteen. Just just fuck around. Just 399 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: just fu I swear to God, just like you can 400 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: get so wrapped up in your own head about perfection 401 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: and whatnot, but this fuck around, dude, don't don't attach 402 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: you're attaching so much direness to it. It's not a 403 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: dire thing. Just just just play. Okay, this is this 404 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: should be play at this point. 405 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: That you know. That's that's that's definitely uh, that's definitely right, 406 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: you know. I I I tend to I guess worry 407 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: about these things a little bit too much when uh, 408 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: the only thing I can really do is don't have action, 409 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: uh you know, and less. 410 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: Like I was gonna say at this at this point, 411 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: anything that you're doing that's not dealing drugs seems to 412 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: be a pretty good good ah hobby or or endeavor 413 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: for you to be doing. 414 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Is such it's it's like I will never recommend it, 415 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: but I will say it is the easiest, fastest, and 416 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: like least uh the you have to put the least 417 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: amount of work in and and it's it's I think 418 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: it's helped me. Like you know, I was gonna, uh, 419 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: somebody owes me some money and the next time they 420 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: pay me, I'm gonna be getting one of those Google certificates. 421 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of those. They're like 422 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: fifty bucks per month and you get to learn like. 423 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: You can get you can get Google certified to be 424 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: a crack dealer. 425 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can get get like Google certified 426 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to like do like cybersecurity and like uh you know, 427 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: business management and ship and you know they're like I 428 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: I will never you know, if my my morals are 429 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm never going to sell any anything to anybody if 430 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I know that they're abusing it, or if it's like 431 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: that's why I don't sell like cracker heroin. It's just 432 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: like lead shrooms. If I have an access, then I 433 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna go mouldy or something. You know, 434 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: It's it's more just a it's definitely no Uh, I'm 435 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: no scar face for sure. 436 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I like to do good with those motifcs. Well, 437 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess somebody's gotta deal shrooms. But 438 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: what the fuck am I saying? Cam? You look, here's 439 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: the thing I'm gonna and I'm gonna leave you with this. 440 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: You have a billion ideas that you want to do. 441 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: Go to one of them that's not selling pot or 442 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: drugs or I mean, I mean sell pot. You can 443 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: sell pot legally now soon to be able to probably 444 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: just sell shrooms legally. So whatever, Maybe you will, maybe 445 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: you'll have, maybe you'll have maybe eventually the law will 446 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: catch up to that big brain of yours and you'll 447 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: start the first shroom delivery, uh or whatever the fuck 448 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: it is. But love, Cam, it's been nice talking to you, man, 449 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: and thanks for sharing all this stuff, and I hope 450 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: that things go well for you and uh, if I 451 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: ever come to up to this uh Tesla place, I 452 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: would like for you to give me a free grilled 453 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: cheese sandwich dude. 454 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: On the house. Everything anything you want. Man, you got it. Man, 455 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I do have if I'm not intruding at all, I 456 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: do have one last piece of advice to like ask 457 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: for you know, if it's if it's not you know, 458 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: anything that would would bother you, what is it? Well, 459 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: so recently I've been talking to my ex, not in 460 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: any like weird way or anything like that. It's, you know, 461 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: strictly a friendship thing because we used to we dated 462 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: about six years ago, and uh, you know, she's she 463 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: was a really close friend of mine, and I I 464 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: don't like, do you think that's a bad idea? Like, 465 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: it's not where we wouldn't get into into anything. You know, 466 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: she's you know, been an amazing friend. 467 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: And your fiance I know about it. 468 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told her about it, but and she wasn't 469 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: like yippy, But she also wasn't like her. That's fucking 470 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: that's awful. Why would you do that? It was kind 471 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: of a neutral thing. So yeah, that's been bearing in 472 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: my mind. 473 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: Feel terrible with this kind of stuff. Man, I got 474 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: no idea. I mean, this is is just your friends, right. 475 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I I I feel bad to a 476 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: certain extent because, like I mean, it is somebody I 477 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: used to date. But I am a very loyal person, 478 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: so I know that I'm not going to do anything. 479 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: And if she were to try to do anything, I 480 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: know I would shut it down immediately. 481 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: But I I would. Uh, I don't know. I don't 482 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: want to tell you what to fuck it do, but 483 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: mm hmm. But yeah, because I don't know what the 484 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: fuck do I know? I don't know, man, Just focus 485 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: on building your dude, you have way, do you have 486 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: better things to worry about than this? Okay, I guess yeah. 487 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. I appreciate it though. 488 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thank you for calling Cam, and 489 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: good luck to you, and I will be back at 490 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: some point to redeem that free girl cheese sandwich of course. 491 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: Man, have a good one later. 492 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: Man, I don't fucking know. I don't know the answers 493 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: to when he said I like talking to him. I 494 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: like talking to him about his history and his life 495 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: and getting into who he is. But when he's like, 496 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: can I have advice on if I should talk to 497 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: any anytime someone's like, can I have advice on if 498 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: I should talk to this girl or not? I'm like, 499 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I got I don't fucking know. I don't know at all. 500 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about life. The if you're asking 501 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: that question, the answer is usually like the answer the 502 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: answer to that question. The answer to that question ninety 503 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: seven percent of the time is probably not. But around 504 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: ninety seven percent of the time you do it anyway 505 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: because his brains emotions they're strong. Hello, Hello, Hi, who 506 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: is this? 507 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 5: This is Natalie? 508 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: Well? What's oh god? All right? You have a dog? 509 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: Can you? Can you throw your dog out out out 510 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: in the garbage? Wabby talk? 511 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, let me, yeah, give me one second, I'll 512 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 5: put her in the garage. 513 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: Cool. That's better. That's about That's a much better idea 514 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: than what I said. 515 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure? 516 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: Are you still there? 517 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 518 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: I'd there. She should be good. 519 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: Now, what's your name again? 520 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 5: Natalie? 521 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: Natalie? What's what's going on? How can I get you today? 522 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: So? 523 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 5: Funny story? Do you want the whole story or the 524 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: short version? 525 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Let's start with the short version. 526 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 5: My roommate matched with this guy on Tinder somehow, I 527 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: started talking to him. Fast forward two months and now 528 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: he's driving all the way from New York to Iola 529 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: and is visiting me here. And I've never met him 530 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 5: in person. 531 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: And so he started out as I'm he matched with 532 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: your friend and then used to how did you start 533 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: talking to him after he matched with your friends? Uh? 534 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: We I definitely catfished him for like an hour, and 535 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 5: he thought I was my roommate and then it turned 536 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: out to be me, and I don't know somehow he 537 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: kept talking to me. 538 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: What is what does that look like? Logistically? You can't 539 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: fished him as your roommate. Your roommate? Is your friends 540 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: that match with him? 541 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 542 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, she's my best friend. She's my best friend. 543 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: What does that look like? You like stole her phone 544 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: or something? 545 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was using her phone on her tender account 546 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 5: and she was sitting next to me the whole time. 547 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh so it was like, haha, well, actually, here's the 548 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: number of the person you've been talking to. 549 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: Yes, that's what happened. 550 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: Did your friend like this guy? Did this? Did that 551 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: upset her? 552 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: No? 553 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 5: She was Actually she's actually really happy for me. But 554 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: it's kind of funny now listening to the story because 555 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 5: he never actually talked to her. He just saw her 556 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: pictures and matched with him. 557 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: He knows, he knows that it's he's talking to you, right. 558 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: Yes, he does know that he's talking to me. We 559 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 5: face times and all of that stuff since then, so 560 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: he knows who I am. 561 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: Now, why is your friend matching with dudes in New 562 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: York if she lives in Iowa? Is she doing like 563 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: the passport thing? 564 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 7: Uh? 565 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: No, he's actually in the military. So he was visiting 566 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: his family in Iowa and then went back to New 567 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: York like the day after we started talking. 568 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: And how long have you been talking to this guy? 569 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 5: Like two months now? We just hit like sixty day 570 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 5: streak on snapchat, Aisle. 571 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about him coming to visit you. 572 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous. I'm not gonna lie because in reality, 573 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: he literally could murder me, Like I don't know this 574 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 5: man really besides over the phone. 575 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: You know that is true. That is the risk that 576 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: you run every time a stranger comes to your house. 577 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 5: Yes, and he's staying at my house, like he's staying here. 578 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: He's not staying at a hotel, he's not staying with 579 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 5: his parents. He's like staying here? 580 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: How long is he supposed to stay there for? 581 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: Just over the weekends? Like three nights? Not too bad? 582 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: Okay, is your roommate gonna be there? 583 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: I think she's gonna be here a little bit of 584 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: the time, but she might just stay with her parents 585 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 5: at least one of the nights. 586 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: You know. What's so funny is do you remember how 587 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 2: old are you? 588 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 5: I'm twenty two. 589 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: Okay. When I think, do you remember taking like webs 590 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: safety classes in school? 591 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 5: I do remember that. 592 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: Do you remember when they told us they were like 593 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: they said things like never give your real name out 594 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: on the internet. That's what they started with. 595 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 5: They really did. But here I am giving my entire 596 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: address this man. 597 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Right, they And it's funny, how like because this was 598 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 2: in like elementary school. So I was in elementary school 599 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: what I don't like two thousand and eight or something 600 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: like that, and the Internet has changed to the point 601 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: where everyone is giving out just their full address and 602 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: social security number. Like giving your real name out on 603 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: the internet is like nothing. 604 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, are you suggesting I give my social Security 605 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 5: number to this man? 606 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: Is he offering you some kind of investment opportunity? 607 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I guess 608 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 5: I'll find out tomorrow when he gets here. 609 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: Okay, are you meeting him in like where is it? 610 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: Where are you gonna meet him? Like at your house? 611 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? Like, he won't get here till like eleven pm 612 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 5: twelve am tomorrow night, So it's gonna be in the 613 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 5: dark in front of my house. Literally could be a 614 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: horror movie plot. 615 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean, would it make you feel better to like 616 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: meet him in a not dark, late night place. 617 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, I haven't really thought about it. 618 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: I was just kind of like why not. You know, 619 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 5: there's the first time for everything, and hopefully it goes 620 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: good and not bad. Very optimistic. 621 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: Is has throughout the twelve different throughout the two months 622 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: that you've been talking to him every day, has there 623 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: been any inkling, indication intuition that he might try to 624 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: kill you? 625 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: No? No, he seems nice. He seems like a good guy, 626 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: a good stable guy. He gets out of the military 627 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: in May, so we'll see what happens after that. 628 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: Okay, have you have you ever done anything like this before? 629 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 5: No? No, I haven't. I was in a four year 630 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 5: long relationship that I've got out of like six six 631 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 5: six six months ago, and this is like the first 632 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: guy I'm talking to again that I'm like serious about 633 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 5: and kind of like, so hopefully I still like him 634 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 5: when I meet him in person. 635 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't wanna. I don't want to 636 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: undercut your intuition because you uh, you know, have the 637 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: agency that you know, do whatever the hell you want. 638 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: So I guess, So, I guess all I can do 639 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: is hope that he doesn't kill you. I don't think 640 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: this guy is going to kill you. I don't know. 641 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm I'm, I'm a I am myself. I'm a fairly 642 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: trusting person. I think, I'm i'm. I try to assume 643 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: the best in people. I think. I'll say this, I 644 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: think mathematically, mathematically, the amount of people in the world 645 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 2: that want to kill you is so significantly smaller than 646 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: the amount of people who don't want to kill you. 647 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: For sure. Have you ever done anything like this while. 648 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: Like meta stranger from the Internet, Well, I. 649 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: Mean sure, but like randomly at a dark place after 650 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 5: talking to them for a couple of months, and. 651 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: Probably I'm I'm sure I used to tinder a lot. 652 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure I did something like that in the in 653 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 2: the Tindering days. 654 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 5: Oh, for sure, So you're alive. So hopefully I'm also 655 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 5: still alive by Friday morning. 656 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. 657 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: So. 658 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean look, I mean, look, if you're feeling that 659 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: unsure about it, you could always be like, hey, why 660 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: don't you get a hotel and then we can meet tomorrow. 661 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see how I'm feeling tomorrow. 662 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 5: I think I'm just anxious about it right now. 663 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, are you anxious, like just like from 664 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: a social standpoint, are you like just first date sort 665 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: of anxiety? 666 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 5: I think so, Yeah, but it's just like a lot 667 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 5: of build up since it's like two months of first 668 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 5: date anxiety. 669 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 670 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 5: Sure, I just met him three days ago and we're 671 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 5: going on our first date. It's like, no, two months. 672 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, don't do anything that you know 673 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: it makes you you you have a bad feeling about. 674 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm gonna manifest. I used to. I 675 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 2: used to make fun of manifesting, and I still don't. 676 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: I still think it's a little stupid, but I kind 677 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: of I'm kind of coming around to it. I'm gonna 678 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: manifest that this guy doesn't kill you and that you 679 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: have a fun and a wonderful time with him throughout 680 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: the visit. 681 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate that manifesting all the positive vibes for me 682 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 5: and my roommate who has to deal with this random 683 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 5: guy in her house for the next few days. 684 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: Maybe I have your roommates stay home for a little bit, 685 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: just in case. It's not a horrible idea. 686 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 5: Okay, but she is. She's she's gonna be my wing woman, 687 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 5: so she'll be there to support me at least the 688 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 5: first night, and then she can. 689 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: You know what you should do? Actually is you should 690 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: you know what you should do? You should have her 691 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: answer the door and be like it act Shelly was 692 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 2: me the whole time. 693 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 5: That would be hilarious. Maybe I will do that, say 694 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 5: that she was telling me what to say? 695 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: Oh, she was telling you what to say? 696 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, because if any time, he obviously saw my face. Yea, 697 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 5: So maybe she was just texting me the whole time. 698 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: What's your name again, Natalie? Natalie? Is there anything else 699 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer 700 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: before we go? 701 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 5: No, you're the best. I appreciate you. 702 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: Thanks, Natalie. I hope that you don't die, unless if 703 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: it's like of old age, which wouldn't wouldn't be for 704 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: a long time. 705 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 5: I don't think no, for sure. I hope you don't 706 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 5: die either. 707 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: Lyle. 708 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 2: Thanks man, see you later. 709 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 3: Okay, bye, it's a while. 710 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: Uh, dude, I wanted to call you because so U. 711 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: Last week we got a phone call from this girl 712 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: who was talking about how this dude that she met 713 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: on the internet and has never met in real life 714 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: and she's been talking to him for about two months 715 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: is going to drive fifteen hours to spend the weekend 716 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 2: at her house, and she was afraid that this guy 717 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: was going to kill her, but also was looking forward 718 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: to the potential of, of course that not happening, and 719 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: of this being a fun weekend of bonding and merriment. 720 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 2: And then I got a text from you saying that 721 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 2: you are the guy and you wanted to let me 722 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: know how the weekend went. 723 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the weekend was great. 724 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: And this is a and I want to point out 725 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: this is from a different phone, which means that you 726 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: did not kill her, steal her front, steal her phone 727 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: and text me from that. 728 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 729 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: No, she's totally alive. 730 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 7: She's alive, and well great, she's her roommate's watching this. 731 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: Cool. 732 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: The weekend went great. 733 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 7: I actually got an extended stay because I had car 734 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 7: issues and I couldn't get back to New York, so 735 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 7: actually instead of leaving on Monday, by some Wednesday. 736 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so I mean, tell me how the weekend went. 737 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: It was good. 738 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 7: The first few days were a little shaky, just getting 739 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 7: to know her. When I showed up at one am, 740 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 7: it was super awkward. Her and he roommate were just 741 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 7: sitting in the living room, like like parents when you 742 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 7: come home late at night. But like she hugged me, 743 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 7: I wasn't. I wasn't expecting. I thought we were going 744 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 7: to like maybe I was gonna sleep on the couch 745 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 7: or something. But all seemed to go well right off 746 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 7: the bat. And then I got a shower, and then 747 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 7: we slept, and then Friday and Saturday were really busy. 748 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 3: I met her parents. She met my parents. I don't 749 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: know why, but we did, and that went well. 750 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 2: Wait, so she met your parents. Do your parents live 751 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: in this place that you went to? I don't don't. 752 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: Do they not live where you live? 753 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 6: No? 754 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 7: I live up here because, as she said, I'm in 755 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 7: the I'm in the Army, but you know I'm from 756 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 7: I'm from Iowa. 757 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm from near where she lives now. 758 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, So you two met each other's parents, and 759 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: then did you explain to her parents the circumstances of 760 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: you guys meeting and how you've only known each other 761 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 2: for like a day. 762 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 7: Her parents knew everything about me before I even saw them. 763 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 7: She was she was given them all the info in case, 764 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 7: I guess, in case if I killed her or something, 765 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 7: which I didn't. 766 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: And how was your interaction with her parents? 767 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 7: Do her parents are so cool? 768 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: I get along with her dad so well, and. 769 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 7: Her mom's really funny, and and they were. 770 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: They were really cool about the whole thing. 771 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 7: Her mom was asking for updates like the whole time 772 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 7: I was there, mmmm, which was funny. 773 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: How how deep into the weekend did you talk to 774 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: her mom? 775 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 7: I saw them on on oh, I want to say 776 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 7: this Saturday morning. Saturday morning, and then I met her 777 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 7: parents for breakfast with her grandma, and then we went 778 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 7: to her other grandparents' house and I met her aunt 779 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 7: and her other grandparents and we all hung out as 780 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 7: like a group. 781 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: I met her brother. But that's that's all of the 782 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 3: interaction I had with them. 783 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: Did anyone from the family seem to be wary of you. 784 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think so. They were all pretty welcoming. 785 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 7: I think it's just because I don't know they She 786 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 7: gave them good good word on me before I met them. 787 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: Mhm. Okay. Now, I remember from my conversation with her 788 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: that you initially had matched with her her roommate on 789 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: the dating app, and you were talking to her roommate, 790 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: and then she started texting you from her roommate's tender. 791 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 2: Is that right? 792 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 793 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: Okay, And now when you were there was any part 794 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 2: of you like like you were you glad that it 795 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: was horror and not the roommate. 796 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 7: Not not in a negative way towards her roommate, but yeah, 797 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 7: I was her. Her roommate's not just not not my style. 798 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 7: She definitely has way more of my style, which was nice. 799 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: It's a very you know what, that's a very that's 800 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: a very diplomatic answer to what I'm just realizing was 801 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: a trick question that I gave you. 802 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't want to sound like a dick on 803 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 7: the phone. You know, her roommate's watching. 804 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 2: Now where are you now? Are you back on on base? 805 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'm an I'm back back in New York? 806 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Are you going to go back to Iowa anytime soon? 807 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 7: We've talked about me visiting for Thanksgiving, and I'm definitely 808 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 7: visiting for Christmas. It's just, you know, financially and with 809 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 7: my car problems, I don't know, it can be tough 810 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 7: to visit as often as I want to. 811 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I mean, like in the future, are you 812 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: planning to go back to Iowa? Are you going to 813 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: stay in New York? 814 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 3: Oh? No? 815 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 7: What So I get out of the Army in May, 816 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 7: and I'm I'm definitely moving back to Iowa for at 817 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 7: least a little bit. I'm probably going to live in 818 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 7: the same area that she lives in now. And I've 819 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 7: even talked to her because my parents said I could 820 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 7: bring a friend with. We're going on a trip to 821 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 7: Germany in May, and I talked to her maybe I'd 822 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 7: take her with because she likes to travel. 823 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: That's all. Do you wait? Can you call her? Can 824 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: we three way? You guys in I feel like I 825 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: talked to her, I haven't. I feel like I talked 826 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 2: to her beforehand, I talked to you after and now 827 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk to both of you guys at once. 828 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 3: I don't. 829 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 7: I don't know how to how to add someone into 830 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 7: the call. 831 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: If you could help me, see, oh here we go. 832 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 3: H yeah, well she had this goes all right? 833 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: Sweet, it's a three way call all time. Natalie, He's here, Natalie, Hey, Natalie, 834 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: what's up? 835 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 5: Nothing much? 836 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 6: How are you? 837 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. It's good to speak with you again. 838 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: This is cool. I don't usually do follow ups, but 839 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: after that last call, I remember there being a lot 840 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: of people in the chat being like, you should call 841 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: her to make sure she wasn't killed by that guy, 842 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 2: And it appears you were not. 843 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 6: No, I am thankful to report that he did not 844 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 6: show up here and kill me. 845 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 2: And you had your room. You were like debating whether 846 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 2: or not your roommate was going to stay there with 847 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: you too. 848 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, my roommate did end up staying the whole time, 849 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 6: So that was nice as a nice little backup just 850 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 6: in case anything did happen. 851 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: So what's what was your review of the weekend? 852 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 6: I would say the weekend went well. We got along 853 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 6: really well, and we had conversations every day. I don't 854 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 6: really think we got tired of each other that easily. 855 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 6: And yeah, it was good. 856 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: We're still talking nice nice. I guess is there anything 857 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 2: in particular that you you were talking about on our 858 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 2: last call that you want to update anyone about, or 859 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: or any details that you want to share with the 860 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 2: people about the the ending to this. 861 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 862 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 6: I think it really was kind of funny because the 863 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 6: first day we actually hung out is when his car 864 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 6: broke down, and it could have gone terribly and he 865 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 6: could have we were out of pumpkin patch and he 866 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 6: could have gotten really mad and like just yelled and 867 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 6: then a terrible human being and acted really negatively towards it. 868 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 6: He ended up laughing, which I think was a good, 869 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 6: like silly way to start the weekend, and then obviously 870 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 6: end it with a joke. And so it did go 871 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 6: really well and I didn't die, and I'm very thankful 872 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 6: for that, and so everybody in the chat should be 873 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 6: happy that I'm safe and sound and still in Iowa, alive. 874 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 5: And breathe it. 875 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 2: Would you recommend to other people that they invite strangers 876 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 2: from the internet to their house at the middle of 877 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: the night so that they can have similar beautiful experiences 878 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: as you, I. 879 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 6: Would say if you have facetimed them beforehand and know 880 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 6: stuff about them, then sure, why not? But if it's 881 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 6: someone you've only texted for like a day, maybe. 882 00:49:51,920 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: Not so much. What's the guy's name again, Lucas, Lucas, Lucas? 883 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the 884 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go? 885 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 7: Don't show up at random people's houses because I don't know, 886 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 7: it's scary. 887 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 2: What did your parents think about all this stuff? 888 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 3: My parents were just like you. 889 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 7: As long as you don't end up ballgags in her basement, 890 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 7: it's okay. 891 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 3: And even if that does happen, just try to wait 892 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 3: it out. 893 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 7: They're very supportive. 894 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 2: See that's true. You could have killed him too, you 895 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 2: know what, I could have. 896 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 7: He said that he purposely. 897 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: He said that he. 898 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 6: Purposely took duct tape out of his bag so that 899 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 6: we didn't think he was some sort of serial killer. 900 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: Why do you keep duct tape in your bag? 901 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 7: I keep duct tape in super glue on me all 902 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 7: the time. 903 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: Have you read to use it? 904 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're super glue. I don't know. I like 905 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 3: to I like quick, easy way to fix things. I 906 00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 3: would have used it on my. 907 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 7: Car if it wasn't metal. 908 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, you guys, stay on your shoes around each other. Yeah, 909 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: all right, take care guys, Thank you very much, talk 910 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: to you later. That was nice. I don't know, I 911 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 2: don't I remember. I think on the last call when 912 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: I was talking to Natalie about all of this stuff, 913 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: it was it was a little strange, right, But I 914 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: was a little agnostic about it, right, because it's like, 915 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 2: well and on you know, meeting a stranger from the internet, 916 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: high risk, medium to high reward, right because well, you 917 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 2: the risk is that the person kills you, but the like, 918 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: that's the worst possible that could happen. But the best 919 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 2: thing that could happen is that you get married and 920 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 2: have children and live forever and ever happily and the 921 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: best thing that's ever happened to you in your life. 922 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: And blah blah blah blah blah. So I don't know. 923 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 2: I guess it's high risk, high reward, but you know, 924 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 2: don't don't bring duct tape if you're gonna do that. 925 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: Ben goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 926 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 6: The Repacon goes do it to ride. 927 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: He's teaching you cloud in the mind of your life, 928 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 2: but he's not ready. An expert