WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Ferg Talks ‘DAROLD,’ Therapy, Writing ‘Pool,’ KDot, Yams, Young Thug, Denzel Curry + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.520 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.920 Breakfast Club, Morning, everybody in stej en Vy, Jesse, Hilarrys Charlamage, 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:10.640 the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got a 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.840 special gainst in the building. Babies and gentleman firs. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.200 Off feeling So no more a safer Uh, it's still 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.240 a SAPs on my chest. Okay, Sappers forever. I'm always 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.200 striving and prospering. But Ferg is like, you know, did 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.600 he change his name? It's a funny name. It's a 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.519 funny title to bring up Diddy, right, It's like, but 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.280 you know it happened. Yeah, did he changed his name 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.280 a few times? And it represented different eras of his career. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.639 And That's where I'm at with it. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.240 Just your baby oil Era. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.760 Did listen, I'm I'm Diddy is my family and I 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.960 love his family. I don't know all of what's going 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.400 on with this case and everything like that. And it's 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.600 a bunch of hare to say. Really, it's like a 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.840 thousand bottles of baby or what that has to do 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.039 anything with him being a bad man. So yeah, he 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.400 just a rich man with a bunch of baby. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.559 So you didn't say this is a new I guess 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.679 new energy in your life right now to take the 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.080 A SAP off. So what what is the difference? Is 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.120 it a crew? Was it more individual? 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.040 Is it? Well? 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.280 I feel like a SAP puts me in group think. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.440 You know what I'm saying. You think about the era, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.400 the which is a golden era, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.840 Like we changed the game, and it's just like for 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.520 me to change the game a whole other way and 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.360 in an individual way now, Like I was known for 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.199 being Ferg my whole life, Like I met Rocky as Ferg, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.960 I met yams Is Ferg. And then like when we 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.600 came together as a group effort, we all changed our 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.440 name to a SAP for like how bone thus god, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.560 you know, a lazy bone, crazy bone, flesh and bone. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.880 We just basically took our last names and put them 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.880 last and put a SAP as our first. So it's 0:01:58.960 --> 0:01:59.560 just a new era. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.680 So earlier this year with people from the A Sad 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.800 Mob saying that you were no longer a part of 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.440 A Sad. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.160 Mom, Yeah, ils L said that and he took that 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.919 that quote back, like we talked about it and hashed 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.919 it and all of that stuff. But yeah it was 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.560 and Bari they said that, But my whole thing is like, uh, 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.520 you know, when you're doing great, that's what it comes with. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.440 You know, people you feel some type of way. And 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.480 I didn't do anything to anybody. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.000 So yeah, is the mob so close as they used 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:30.200 to be? 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:36.120 Uh close as they used to be? I would say 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.440 that me and Rocky we talked every now and then 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.760 and I always check on as well being. But we're 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.320 so busy just doing our own thing. He got two 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:51.320 kids and he's making music and got his career. This 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.520 is exactly going the way we wanted it to go. Like, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.480 you know, I got my land over here, you got 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.680 your island over here. We big pillars, and then when 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.359 we come together, it's just like it just gets crazy. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.639 So as far as like as close as we used 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.680 to be, no, because we used to basically live with 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.320 each other because we used to be on tour together. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.600 But as far as love, like I love my brother 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.280 to death like I would. I always want to see 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.360 my brother do great, and I love what he's doing. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.000 And yeah, all my brothers, you know, even Ils and Bari. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:26.079 Like with the whole thing, it just I always say 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.840 that people handle fame differently like Yams he handled it 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.320 the way he handled it and it cost him his life. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.760 And it's a lot of access, and you know, it 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.160 makes people act different. We don't know, Like I don't 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.680 I know these people and these guys from a point 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.600 like when I met them, they was already like teenagers 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.240 or like young adults. I don't know what happened to 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.000 them in their life before that. So what shapes and 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:02.800 molds these people and they they uh younger years or 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.480 as young men, don't I don't know what it was 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.720 like in their household or whatever. So when we get 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.280 the fame and the fortune and all of that, everybody's 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:11.160 gonna react different. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.080 Yeah, where you've been at though you've been a little 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.080 quiet last I've been cooking. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.279 Yeah, cooking. Yeah, Like you know, we in a game 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.640 where it's like everything is so quick, so quick. I 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:28.960 never believed in like rushing my process for money, Like 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.200 I feel like I've done that. I've like hustled. I 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.279 feel like after I dropped Traplo on my album, like 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.560 the time and effort it took me to create that album, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.280 which it took my whole life to create that album, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.159 because up until that point, I was just living it 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.880 and I created an album so I had mad life 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.719 to talk about on that one album. After that, it's 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.279 just like chasing a hit. But now you're listening to 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.640 the label YO, put out this, put out that because Yo, 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.360 this works for radio boom, and then it's like, I mean, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.159 I got mad hit records, not saying that that's enough, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.720 but for me, it wasn't enough. Like I wanted to 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.520 like really figure out what I wanted to say, because 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.400 you know, when you realize you got a voice, you 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.200 can really make a lot of movement and you want to, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.400 you know, as a thirty six year old man, you 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.880 want to create purpose and have purpose driven moves. So 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.760 that's what I wanted to figure out, Like, all right, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.039 you know I did that. That shit was fun, But 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.200 where am I going now? Like how am I going 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.440 to lead to people or what am I saying to 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.880 the kids? So that's what I had to figure out, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.600 Like I wanted to grow as a person so the 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:37.520 music could evolve. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.320 Yeah, the name of the album is Darryl. Yeah, No, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.600 why Daryl Because it seems like it's almost like you're 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.120 going back to the origin of yourself. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.640 I feel like I was running. I was running for 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.960 myself for a long time. Like my father was such 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:51.880 a great man. Like I'm not sure if you. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.279 Heard the legend. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:58.080 Yeah, you know Dferg Deferg family, Like it's a whole 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.040 family of us. T Ferg. They know him. That's my uncle, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.599 that's always with me. Deferg, my dad. You got Kim Ferg, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.680 Mama Ferg. Kim Ferg used to dance with Teddy Riley 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.600 and you know she used to be with this crew 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.839 called the Gucci Girls with Dapadan. They're like all of 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.840 their outfits and stuff. So I come from a whole 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.320 lineage of Fergs. And then now it's just going back 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.279 to the basics and going back to my roots because 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.400 I feel like I never gave the world at I 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.640 only gave y'all, mobbin. I never gave y'all an individual. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.320 You know, on a live you said, let me go 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.560 to therapy and I'll be right back. So have you 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:33.400 really been going to therapy? 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.640 Yeah? I went to therapy for three years, Like after 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:41.600 the It's a song I got called Pool where I 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:46.680 talk about my hiatus, and I went to therapy after 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.120 you know, during the mad Man to it that's like 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.600 playing Jane is going crazy. I'm doing one hundred and 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.120 fifty people meeting greet. I'm changing my outfits twice twice 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.800 a show. I'm like just really trying to like I'm 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.880 trying to take it there, and I'm taking it there. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.800 Like at that time, I'm the face of Tiffany's first 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:13.360 black person and artist rapper to be the face of Tiffany's. Also, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.560 I had a Hennessy deal, I did a deal Revlon deal, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.720 Like it's going crazy. And I think that, like with 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.960 all of these things that I was doing, it really 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.720 just bodied me, cause it like it it bodied me 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.400 in a good way. Though it broke me into a 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.160 new me because I was like, damn, what am I 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.160 actually trying to reach? And then when I would like 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.200 look at artists that like just keep trying to go, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.440 go go, go, go, go go, and I'm like, what 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.520 are they trying to reach? Because like escape or trying 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.640 to escape, And then I had to ask myself that question, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.880 like what am I trying to reach? Like when is 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.600 it enough? And also I want to experience peace, Like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.640 I don't want to have to keep being addicted to working, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.160 you know what I'm saying. So and I didn't know 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.640 if I was addicted to working, but I just I was. 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.160 I was in you know, when you're coming out the hood, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.000 and I'm pretty sure you guys came from, you know, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.720 a place where like you had to kind of fight 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.800 to get out of there, and then it has to 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.760 become a time where it's like you realize you're not 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.800 in that fight anymore. And that's what happened. I realized 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.680 that I'm not like in Harlem, no more like fighting 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.160 to get out of this place. So I had to 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.720 like change my perspective. I had to get around other 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.360 people that had things to realize, like, all right, I'm 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.600 not the only one going through this. You know. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.360 It's interesting reason I asked you that is because you know, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.240 a lot of times when you first start going to therapy, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.640 it's not about what you're learning about yourself, is what 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.040 you're unlearning, And in a lot of ways, that really 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.079 does impact your creativity because you're like, well, who the 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.559 hell am I I'm trying to figure you got to 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.760 try to figure yourself out all over again. Was that 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.839 one of the reasons for the hiatus with the music too? 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:01.000 Uh? I think it's just growing. I think it's growing. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.960 We call it a hiatus, but it's like that was 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.600 normal back in the time where like Biggie and Tupac, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.120 Biggie had like four years like he dropped ready to 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.840 Die and then he came with Life After Death and 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.200 that's all we got from him after that. Like Lauren 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.720 Hill dropped one album and then dropped like a joint 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.520 with the fujis. These is real writers. Kendrick took five 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.720 years off to like, you know, write his album. So 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.400 when you putting purpose into music, it is not just 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.840 about making the world go like this, Like like I 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.640 could do that all day, but like, all right, How'm 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.960 gonna make the world go like this to the bpm? 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.400 But also when a motherfucker come off the high or 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.040 the liquor and they're driving back home and they sobered up, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.520 how can you make it hit they soul still? So 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:55.200 that's me. I've always been a person that wanted to 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.880 put the medicine into music because I do believe that 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.439 music is a spiritual thing. You know, music we used 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:06.240 to sing songs to, like you know, uh and slavery. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.800 We used to sing song to like tell you how 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.400 to get out of there, like yo, you gotta go 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.560 to the river and then you gotta get on the 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.520 boat and then because Master not picking up on the 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.960 slang and a swag and all of that. So you 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.480 know that that is That's what I do as an artist. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:28.400 I figure out how to communicate to my culture what 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.199 we're doing next. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.280 Now, you were very vulnerable on this album. Yes, knowing 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.600 you for a long time, you've been pretty quiet, like 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.680 you know, you don't really put your business out there. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.440 So how were you able to be so vulnerable and 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.160 how difficult was it for you? I thought it was 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:48.840 like cool to be vulnerable. I thought it was cool 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:49.080 to be. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:57.280 I talked to the ancestors came through. Nah, I thought 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.720 it was cool to be vulnerable because we're in the 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.560 town where being vulnerable, if you can be vulnerable is 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.520 cool because the kids they put everything out there. And 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.680 at first I thought that was kind of like crazy, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.240 But then when I like really got hip to like 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.800 what's happening, it's a shift in culture where it's like 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.480 it's a lot of information being put out to us. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.400 We got Hulu, we got Netflix, we got YouTube, we 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.720 got all of these outlets, and you have to stand 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.520 out some type of way. We in a town where 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.120 it's like we're battling for attention span so it's like 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.240 the realist, like Real TV changed that, you know, real TV, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.880 and then you have love and hip hop and now 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.920 you have straight up Instagram stories and reels and shit 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.880 like that. So in your music you have to be 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.040 honest because it's like, if you're not saying some honest shit, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.200 I'm just gonna look at this dude's story and like 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.640 he's not even rapping, but this is more interesting. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.520 Did you were you at all worried about how vulnerable 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.480 you were gonna be pretty tragic things like that happened 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:02.360 to you as a kid. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.360 Yeah, So, I mean it took me eight years to 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:12.360 write Pool, Like, it was three songs that I had 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.240 wrote to get to that point. So I wrote a 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.960 song called We Don't Judge and Chance the rappers on it. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.600 I'm still put that out with Stacey Barth. And then 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:27.320 I wrote another song called Innocent Child, which was like 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.079 three different stories about three different I mean yeah, three 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.000 different stories about three different people. The last story was Mines, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.960 and then I was just trying to refine, like and 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.600 then I linked up with my boy Kirby, who he designed. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.120 He's the designer and owner Pierre Moss. I just love 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.600 his storytelling through his clothes and how he speaks to 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.720 the world. He kind of grabs the bull by the 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.600 horns and we got in the studio and he's just like, yo, bro, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:57.160 like you itching towards it and you're scratching the surface 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.160 in this song, innocent child when you need to like 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.480 really just dive in and just go crazy. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:04.559 That you called it pool. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.880 I called it pool because of so I got dr 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.559 I got Basically I went to, I don't want to 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.839 tell us the whole thing, yeah, but yeah, I want 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.480 you to go to listen to it because that's where 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.960 you'll get like the really finite detail of the song. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.440 But basically, it was an incident that happened in the 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.880 pool when I was a young kid, and it's everybody's 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.760 around and everything like that, and you know, for me, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.880 it was like weird. And then I was like and 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.600 it was like one second, but I'm like why, And 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.760 it just made me ask why. And I wanted to 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:47.560 basically create a piece of art that my kid could find, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.839 all like kids could find and listen to it and 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.240 I'm still jiggy, I'm still this person or whatever, and 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.880 your and and let them know that like the things 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.600 that happened to you really happened for you. But the 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:07.320 things that happen to you can it's it's it doesn't 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.800 make it doesn't define us define exactly. So I was 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.559 like and then also I was thinking, like all these 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.079 rappers and people just be like, yo, we're on demon toime, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.440 we on demon Time, And I'm like, when when has 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.120 that ever been cool? To be on demon times? Really? 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.920 Like that's like not cool, like to be on demon town, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.560 Like we on Demon Time. People don't even know where 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.320 that energy comes from, Like you just took him by yo, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.320 we on demon time. Yo. This is just is what 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.840 it is. And I understand because like I got homies 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.040 that's in it, Like so sometimes you forced to be 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.360 in it, But if you're not forced to be in it, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.800 then it's like why you want to be on demon time? 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.680 Like we should be like wanting to help each other. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.440 So yeah, that was just what I was creating that 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.600 song for. And you know a lot of people say 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.880 we do on Demon time, and they don't talk about 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.480 the demons, Like let's open this up, like let's let's 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.000 let's let's uh dissect what the demon is is, Like 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.160 let's sit at a table that's what hip hop is. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.360 Hip hop is religion. Hip hop is our spirituality. Like 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.480 hip hop is this like if when this mic, when 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.080 the cameras is off and you know, we're going we're 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.080 giving each other file and shit like that, we're gonna 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.600 talk about this conversation like that's some real shit. Like 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.440 but while we can't talk about the real shit on 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.840 camera and have these discussions. Hip hop is a thing 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.720 that unites religions and kids. You know, there's Muslims and 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.920 Jewish people that's war on with each other. I went 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.400 to Jerusalem how to show I seen all of them 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.960 turning up together. I got back home like they letting 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.000 me have it on, Like this is how I knew 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.920 it was a problem because I'm not knowing like I'm 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.040 making music but like I'm not knowing that I did 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.640 something like powerful. But like when I get back home, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.080 I check on my DM, They're like, yo, how you 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.000 gonna perform for the Muslims? How are you gonna perform 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.760 for the Jews? Da da da da da? And I'm like, yo, 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.240 the kids don't want to fight. The kids want to 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.600 like unite. The kids want to see the light. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.640 The kids are caught up in something bigger than them, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.560 something that's been going on longer than. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.000 Them exactly, but like who's really having that conversation? Like 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.240 why are we not having that conversation? Like I don't know. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.320 Was it difficult depend the right the words for pool? 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.560 Is that why it took eight years because just being 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.200 just publicly addressing you know, what happened to you. You know, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.640 it's hard to address moleftation period, but also with his 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.640 molestation from the same sex. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.040 With First of all, I just had the I was 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.560 looking at the the news that you put out the 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.960 other day, and then I had to like research molestation 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.800 and like malestation sounds so crazy to me, Like it's like, oh, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:48.720 like you know, it could vary, like what molestation is 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.480 regardless of what it is, it can like how old 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.400 were you? I was nine years old? How old was 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.600 the person? The person was way older than me because. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.920 He was I used to think this I got b 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.240 left by I read I seen you look at it 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:01.960 the same way. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:06.080 Like did you think it the worse when you think. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.840 Yeah, it's like you got different levels, like you know 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.119 I was touched. Like to be clear, like you know, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.360 it doesn't make it no different because you know everything affects. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.000 I was like groped basically, and I just found it 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.520 weird because it's another dude. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.800 Like absolutely, like what there scared? 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 That weird? Like you, yeah, were you. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.760 Scared to tell your family because your family comes from 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.840 the street. I know you said you told your cousin 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.800 when you're scared because you knew that if your family 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:37.320 found out. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.919 I told my cousin because he was my age and 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.119 I didn't want to I didn't want to feel weird, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.520 like I'm holding this thing to myself, so I had 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.000 to tell somebody. And then years later I told my 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.320 mom after seeing a precious movie and then people was 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.520 like standing up. We went to I don't know we've 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.439 seen like a you went to like a premiere of 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.800 the precious movie and people was like standing up and 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.600 telling these stories after that thing. And then I told 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.600 her like on the train, and she was just like 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.600 what for real? When I'm sorry? Like she just felt 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.040 like a bad mom. But like you know, we in 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.480 the hood, we going to the pool, we're going to 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.440 the park. You just never know, like wirdows could just 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.399 creep up in the mix and you can't hold your 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.119 kid by you twenty four seven, like, so that's a 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.199 and then the hood, I mean, and then not just 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.119 in the hood, everywhere. I feel like this shit is 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.240 going on and people not gonna talk about it, and 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:34.879 I'm like, yo, what am I talking about? Like I 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.120 didn't make that happen to me, like like that shit 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.560 ain't mine to like be trying to hold inside, like. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.760 And it's powerful that you're sharing it. There's a lot 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:44.160 of brothers. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:45.800 I think the only other person that you've heard talk 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.679 about that in rap was Common No Common, and then 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.520 Jel Curry over there. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.119 People say that Kendrick said something about it, but I 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.760 think that was about his mom. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:56.560 I don't remember. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:02.040 Yeah, he has a song on his album, The Big Steppers. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.639 Is it called the Big Steppers? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.160 Did you and have those conversations when y'all recording demas? 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.440 Nah? I didn't even tell him what to write about. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.280 I actually that was the last song because that was 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.239 just me by myself at first, and then I was like, 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.360 how can I turn this up? But he heard the context, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:27.040 like me and him have like a telepathy that like 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.320 we don't have to talk to each other to know 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.760 what it is. So he got it and he understood 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:33.320 the assignment. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.720 How did y'all end up piecing up? I know y'all 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.320 had like a little beef. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.800 I never had beef for him. I'm like, I'm not 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.480 the beef type person, like I'd rather like I'm not. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.040 I just don't have to talk to you. What we 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:46.640 beef before? 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.120 How did y'all connect with that? After that? Though? 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.040 I took Denzel on tour on mad Man Tour. Was 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.000 it was on the first wing. It was Playboy CARTI 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.400 and somebody else. Oh, I think it was I DK 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.960 and I had like I had came off tour during 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.920 that time because I was just mentally and physically drank, 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.280 and then I came back on and then I think 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.720 he came on for the second wing. But me and 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.679 Denzel always been cool, like super cool. We were the 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.800 type of dudes talking like I don't know what they're doing, 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.239 like they're tripping. But yeah, that's my buddy, Like I 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:25.800 loved this, He's my favorite rapper. 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.080 Yeah, you said, is it hard to have these conversations? Could? 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.399