1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, Morning, everybody in stej en Vy, Jesse, Hilarrys Charlamage, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got a 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: special gainst in the building. Babies and gentleman firs. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Off feeling So no more a safer Uh, it's still 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: a SAPs on my chest. Okay, Sappers forever. I'm always 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: striving and prospering. But Ferg is like, you know, did 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: he change his name? It's a funny name. It's a 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: funny title to bring up Diddy, right, It's like, but 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: you know it happened. Yeah, did he changed his name 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: a few times? And it represented different eras of his career. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at with it. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: Just your baby oil Era. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Did listen, I'm I'm Diddy is my family and I 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: love his family. I don't know all of what's going 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: on with this case and everything like that. And it's 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of hare to say. Really, it's like a 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: thousand bottles of baby or what that has to do 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: anything with him being a bad man. So yeah, he 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: just a rich man with a bunch of baby. 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: So you didn't say this is a new I guess 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: new energy in your life right now to take the 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: A SAP off. So what what is the difference? Is 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: it a crew? Was it more individual? 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: Is it? Well? 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I feel like a SAP puts me in group think. 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You think about the era, 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: the which is a golden era, you know what I'm saying. 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Like we changed the game, and it's just like for 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: me to change the game a whole other way and 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: in an individual way now, Like I was known for 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: being Ferg my whole life, Like I met Rocky as Ferg, 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: I met yams Is Ferg. And then like when we 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: came together as a group effort, we all changed our 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: name to a SAP for like how bone thus god, 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, a lazy bone, crazy bone, flesh and bone. 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: We just basically took our last names and put them 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: last and put a SAP as our first. So it's 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: just a new era. 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: So earlier this year with people from the A Sad 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: Mob saying that you were no longer a part of 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: A Sad. 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, ils L said that and he took that 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: that quote back, like we talked about it and hashed 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: it and all of that stuff. But yeah it was 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: and Bari they said that, But my whole thing is like, uh, 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing great, that's what it comes with. 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, people you feel some type of way. And 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to anybody. 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, is the mob so close as they used 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: to be? 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Uh close as they used to be? I would say 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: that me and Rocky we talked every now and then 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: and I always check on as well being. But we're 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: so busy just doing our own thing. He got two 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: kids and he's making music and got his career. This 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: is exactly going the way we wanted it to go. Like, 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, I got my land over here, you got 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: your island over here. We big pillars, and then when 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: we come together, it's just like it just gets crazy. 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: So as far as like as close as we used 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: to be, no, because we used to basically live with 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: each other because we used to be on tour together. 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: But as far as love, like I love my brother 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: to death like I would. I always want to see 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: my brother do great, and I love what he's doing. 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, all my brothers, you know, even Ils and Bari. 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: Like with the whole thing, it just I always say 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: that people handle fame differently like Yams he handled it 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the way he handled it and it cost him his life. 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: And it's a lot of access, and you know, it 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: makes people act different. We don't know, Like I don't 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I know these people and these guys from a point 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: like when I met them, they was already like teenagers 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: or like young adults. I don't know what happened to 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: them in their life before that. So what shapes and 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: molds these people and they they uh younger years or 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: as young men, don't I don't know what it was 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: like in their household or whatever. So when we get 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the fame and the fortune and all of that, everybody's 81 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna react different. 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, where you've been at though you've been a little 83 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: quiet last I've been cooking. 84 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, cooking. Yeah, Like you know, we in a game 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: where it's like everything is so quick, so quick. I 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: never believed in like rushing my process for money, Like 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I've done that. I've like hustled. I 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: feel like after I dropped Traplo on my album, like 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the time and effort it took me to create that album, 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: which it took my whole life to create that album, 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: because up until that point, I was just living it 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: and I created an album so I had mad life 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: to talk about on that one album. After that, it's 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: just like chasing a hit. But now you're listening to 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the label YO, put out this, put out that because Yo, 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: this works for radio boom, and then it's like, I mean, 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I got mad hit records, not saying that that's enough, 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: but for me, it wasn't enough. Like I wanted to 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: like really figure out what I wanted to say, because 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you realize you got a voice, you 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: can really make a lot of movement and you want to, 102 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, as a thirty six year old man, you 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: want to create purpose and have purpose driven moves. So 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to figure out, Like, all right, 105 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: you know I did that. That shit was fun, But 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: where am I going now? Like how am I going 107 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: to lead to people or what am I saying to 108 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: the kids? So that's what I had to figure out, 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Like I wanted to grow as a person so the 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: music could evolve. 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the name of the album is Darryl. Yeah, No, 112 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: why Daryl Because it seems like it's almost like you're 113 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: going back to the origin of yourself. 114 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I was running. I was running for 115 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: myself for a long time. Like my father was such 116 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: a great man. Like I'm not sure if you. 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: Heard the legend. 118 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Dferg Deferg family, Like it's a whole 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: family of us. T Ferg. They know him. That's my uncle, 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: that's always with me. Deferg, my dad. You got Kim Ferg, 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: Mama Ferg. Kim Ferg used to dance with Teddy Riley 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: and you know she used to be with this crew 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: called the Gucci Girls with Dapadan. They're like all of 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: their outfits and stuff. So I come from a whole 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: lineage of Fergs. And then now it's just going back 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: to the basics and going back to my roots because 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I never gave the world at I 128 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: only gave y'all, mobbin. I never gave y'all an individual. 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: You know, on a live you said, let me go 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: to therapy and I'll be right back. So have you 131 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: really been going to therapy? 132 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? I went to therapy for three years, Like after 133 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: the It's a song I got called Pool where I 134 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: talk about my hiatus, and I went to therapy after 135 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, during the mad Man to it that's like 136 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: playing Jane is going crazy. I'm doing one hundred and 137 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: fifty people meeting greet. I'm changing my outfits twice twice 138 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: a show. I'm like just really trying to like I'm 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: trying to take it there, and I'm taking it there. 140 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Like at that time, I'm the face of Tiffany's first 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: black person and artist rapper to be the face of Tiffany's. Also, 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I had a Hennessy deal, I did a deal Revlon deal, 143 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Like it's going crazy. And I think that, like with 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: all of these things that I was doing, it really 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: just bodied me, cause it like it it bodied me 146 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: in a good way. Though it broke me into a 147 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: new me because I was like, damn, what am I 148 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: actually trying to reach? And then when I would like 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: look at artists that like just keep trying to go, 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: go go, go, go, go go, and I'm like, what 151 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: are they trying to reach? Because like escape or trying 152 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: to escape, And then I had to ask myself that question, 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: like what am I trying to reach? Like when is 154 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: it enough? And also I want to experience peace, Like 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to keep being addicted to working, 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and I didn't know 157 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: if I was addicted to working, but I just I was. 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I was in you know, when you're coming out the hood, 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure you guys came from, you know, 160 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a place where like you had to kind of fight 161 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: to get out of there, and then it has to 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: become a time where it's like you realize you're not 163 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: in that fight anymore. And that's what happened. I realized 164 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: that I'm not like in Harlem, no more like fighting 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: to get out of this place. So I had to 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: like change my perspective. I had to get around other 167 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: people that had things to realize, like, all right, I'm 168 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: not the only one going through this. You know. 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: It's interesting reason I asked you that is because you know, 170 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: a lot of times when you first start going to therapy, 171 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: it's not about what you're learning about yourself, is what 172 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: you're unlearning, And in a lot of ways, that really 173 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 4: does impact your creativity because you're like, well, who the 174 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: hell am I I'm trying to figure you got to 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: try to figure yourself out all over again. Was that 176 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: one of the reasons for the hiatus with the music too? 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Uh? I think it's just growing. I think it's growing. 178 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: We call it a hiatus, but it's like that was 179 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: normal back in the time where like Biggie and Tupac, 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Biggie had like four years like he dropped ready to 181 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Die and then he came with Life After Death and 182 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: that's all we got from him after that. Like Lauren 183 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Hill dropped one album and then dropped like a joint 184 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: with the fujis. These is real writers. Kendrick took five 185 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: years off to like, you know, write his album. So 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: when you putting purpose into music, it is not just 187 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: about making the world go like this, Like like I 188 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: could do that all day, but like, all right, How'm 189 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna make the world go like this to the bpm? 190 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: But also when a motherfucker come off the high or 191 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: the liquor and they're driving back home and they sobered up, 192 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: how can you make it hit they soul still? So 193 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that's me. I've always been a person that wanted to 194 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: put the medicine into music because I do believe that 195 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: music is a spiritual thing. You know, music we used 196 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: to sing songs to, like you know, uh and slavery. 197 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: We used to sing song to like tell you how 198 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: to get out of there, like yo, you gotta go 199 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to the river and then you gotta get on the 200 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: boat and then because Master not picking up on the 201 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: slang and a swag and all of that. So you 202 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: know that that is That's what I do as an artist. 203 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: I figure out how to communicate to my culture what 204 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: we're doing next. 205 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: Now, you were very vulnerable on this album. Yes, knowing 206 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: you for a long time, you've been pretty quiet, like 207 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, you don't really put your business out there. 208 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: So how were you able to be so vulnerable and 209 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: how difficult was it for you? I thought it was 210 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: like cool to be vulnerable. I thought it was cool 211 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: to be. 212 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I talked to the ancestors came through. Nah, I thought 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: it was cool to be vulnerable because we're in the 214 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: town where being vulnerable, if you can be vulnerable is 215 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: cool because the kids they put everything out there. And 216 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: at first I thought that was kind of like crazy, 217 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: But then when I like really got hip to like 218 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: what's happening, it's a shift in culture where it's like 219 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot of information being put out to us. 220 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: We got Hulu, we got Netflix, we got YouTube, we 221 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: got all of these outlets, and you have to stand 222 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: out some type of way. We in a town where 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: it's like we're battling for attention span so it's like 224 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: the realist, like Real TV changed that, you know, real TV, 225 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and then you have love and hip hop and now 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: you have straight up Instagram stories and reels and shit 227 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: like that. So in your music you have to be 228 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: honest because it's like, if you're not saying some honest shit, 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look at this dude's story and like 230 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: he's not even rapping, but this is more interesting. 231 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: Did you were you at all worried about how vulnerable 232 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: you were gonna be pretty tragic things like that happened 233 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: to you as a kid. 234 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean it took me eight years to 235 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: write Pool, Like, it was three songs that I had 236 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: wrote to get to that point. So I wrote a 237 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: song called We Don't Judge and Chance the rappers on it. 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm still put that out with Stacey Barth. And then 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: I wrote another song called Innocent Child, which was like 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: three different stories about three different I mean yeah, three 241 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: different stories about three different people. The last story was Mines, 242 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: and then I was just trying to refine, like and 243 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: then I linked up with my boy Kirby, who he designed. 244 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: He's the designer and owner Pierre Moss. I just love 245 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: his storytelling through his clothes and how he speaks to 246 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: the world. He kind of grabs the bull by the 247 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: horns and we got in the studio and he's just like, yo, bro, 248 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: like you itching towards it and you're scratching the surface 249 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: in this song, innocent child when you need to like 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: really just dive in and just go crazy. 251 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: That you called it pool. 252 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: I called it pool because of so I got dr 253 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: I got Basically I went to, I don't want to 254 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: tell us the whole thing, yeah, but yeah, I want 255 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: you to go to listen to it because that's where 256 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: you'll get like the really finite detail of the song. 257 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: But basically, it was an incident that happened in the 258 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: pool when I was a young kid, and it's everybody's 259 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: around and everything like that, and you know, for me, 260 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: it was like weird. And then I was like and 261 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: it was like one second, but I'm like why, And 262 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: it just made me ask why. And I wanted to 263 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: basically create a piece of art that my kid could find, 264 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: all like kids could find and listen to it and 265 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm still jiggy, I'm still this person or whatever, and 266 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: your and and let them know that like the things 267 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: that happened to you really happened for you. But the 268 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: things that happen to you can it's it's it doesn't 269 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: make it doesn't define us define exactly. So I was 270 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: like and then also I was thinking, like all these 271 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: rappers and people just be like, yo, we're on demon toime, 272 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: we on demon Time, And I'm like, when when has 273 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: that ever been cool? To be on demon times? Really? 274 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Like that's like not cool, like to be on demon town, 275 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: Like we on Demon Time. People don't even know where 276 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: that energy comes from, Like you just took him by yo, 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: we on demon time. Yo. This is just is what 278 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: it is. And I understand because like I got homies 279 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: that's in it, Like so sometimes you forced to be 280 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: in it, But if you're not forced to be in it, 281 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: then it's like why you want to be on demon time? 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Like we should be like wanting to help each other. 283 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was just what I was creating that 284 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: song for. And you know a lot of people say 285 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: we do on Demon time, and they don't talk about 286 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: the demons, Like let's open this up, like let's let's 287 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: let's let's uh dissect what the demon is is, Like 288 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: let's sit at a table that's what hip hop is. 289 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: Hip hop is religion. Hip hop is our spirituality. Like 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: hip hop is this like if when this mic, when 291 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: the cameras is off and you know, we're going we're 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: giving each other file and shit like that, we're gonna 293 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: talk about this conversation like that's some real shit. Like 294 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: but while we can't talk about the real shit on 295 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: camera and have these discussions. Hip hop is a thing 296 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: that unites religions and kids. You know, there's Muslims and 297 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Jewish people that's war on with each other. I went 298 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: to Jerusalem how to show I seen all of them 299 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: turning up together. I got back home like they letting 300 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: me have it on, Like this is how I knew 301 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: it was a problem because I'm not knowing like I'm 302 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: making music but like I'm not knowing that I did 303 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: something like powerful. But like when I get back home, 304 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I check on my DM, They're like, yo, how you 305 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna perform for the Muslims? How are you gonna perform 306 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: for the Jews? Da da da da da? And I'm like, yo, 307 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: the kids don't want to fight. The kids want to 308 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: like unite. The kids want to see the light. 309 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: The kids are caught up in something bigger than them, 310 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: something that's been going on longer than. 311 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Them exactly, but like who's really having that conversation? Like 312 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: why are we not having that conversation? Like I don't know. 313 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Was it difficult depend the right the words for pool? 314 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: Is that why it took eight years because just being 315 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: just publicly addressing you know, what happened to you. You know, 316 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: it's hard to address moleftation period, but also with his 317 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: molestation from the same sex. 318 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: With First of all, I just had the I was 319 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: looking at the the news that you put out the 320 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: other day, and then I had to like research molestation 321 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: and like malestation sounds so crazy to me, Like it's like, oh, 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: like you know, it could vary, like what molestation is 323 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: regardless of what it is, it can like how old 324 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: were you? I was nine years old? How old was 325 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: the person? The person was way older than me because. 326 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: He was I used to think this I got b 327 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: left by I read I seen you look at it 328 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: the same way. 329 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Like did you think it the worse when you think. 330 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you got different levels, like you know 331 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I was touched. Like to be clear, like you know, 332 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't make it no different because you know everything affects. 333 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I was like groped basically, and I just found it 334 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: weird because it's another dude. 335 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: Like absolutely, like what there scared? 336 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: That weird? Like you, yeah, were you. 337 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Scared to tell your family because your family comes from 338 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: the street. I know you said you told your cousin 339 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: when you're scared because you knew that if your family 340 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: found out. 341 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I told my cousin because he was my age and 342 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: I didn't want to I didn't want to feel weird, 343 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: like I'm holding this thing to myself, so I had 344 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: to tell somebody. And then years later I told my 345 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: mom after seeing a precious movie and then people was 346 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: like standing up. We went to I don't know we've 347 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: seen like a you went to like a premiere of 348 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: the precious movie and people was like standing up and 349 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: telling these stories after that thing. And then I told 350 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: her like on the train, and she was just like 351 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: what for real? When I'm sorry? Like she just felt 352 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: like a bad mom. But like you know, we in 353 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: the hood, we going to the pool, we're going to 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: the park. You just never know, like wirdows could just 355 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: creep up in the mix and you can't hold your 356 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: kid by you twenty four seven, like, so that's a 357 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: and then the hood, I mean, and then not just 358 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: in the hood, everywhere. I feel like this shit is 359 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: going on and people not gonna talk about it, and 360 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what am I talking about? Like I 361 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: didn't make that happen to me, like like that shit 362 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: ain't mine to like be trying to hold inside, like. 363 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: And it's powerful that you're sharing it. There's a lot 364 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: of brothers. 365 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: I think the only other person that you've heard talk 366 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 4: about that in rap was Common No Common, and then 367 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: Jel Curry over there. 368 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: People say that Kendrick said something about it, but I 369 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: think that was about his mom. 370 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 371 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a song on his album, The Big Steppers. 372 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: Is it called the Big Steppers? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? 373 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: Did you and have those conversations when y'all recording demas? 374 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: Nah? I didn't even tell him what to write about. 375 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I actually that was the last song because that was 376 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: just me by myself at first, and then I was like, 377 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: how can I turn this up? But he heard the context, 378 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: like me and him have like a telepathy that like 379 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: we don't have to talk to each other to know 380 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: what it is. So he got it and he understood 381 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: the assignment. 382 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 5: How did y'all end up piecing up? I know y'all 383 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: had like a little beef. 384 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I never had beef for him. I'm like, I'm not 385 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: the beef type person, like I'd rather like I'm not. 386 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: I just don't have to talk to you. What we 387 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: beef before? 388 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: How did y'all connect with that? After that? Though? 389 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: I took Denzel on tour on mad Man Tour. Was 390 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: it was on the first wing. It was Playboy CARTI 391 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: and somebody else. Oh, I think it was I DK 392 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: and I had like I had came off tour during 393 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: that time because I was just mentally and physically drank, 394 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: and then I came back on and then I think 395 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: he came on for the second wing. But me and 396 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: Denzel always been cool, like super cool. We were the 397 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: type of dudes talking like I don't know what they're doing, 398 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: like they're tripping. But yeah, that's my buddy, Like I 399 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: loved this, He's my favorite rapper. 400 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, is it hard to have these conversations? Could? 401 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 4: I could always think about, you know, when you're sharing 402 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: so much of yourself and you're being so vulnerable about 403 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: certain things, but then you do got to go out 404 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: here and do interviews and stuff like that. 405 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: Is it hard to have those conversations. 406 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: No, I just think that it's it could be challenging 407 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: on how to uh because you know, you get ridiculed 408 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, and people love to take 409 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: sound bites and take it out of term and I 410 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: have to be cool with that. But I think that's 411 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: really on how I convey it, Like that's what I 412 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: focused on. Like I thought about this interview like months 413 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: before I got here. Yeah, I'm like, cause I'm gonna 414 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna have to talk about this stuff. 415 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: So it's just like, how do I talk about it? 416 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: And you know, this is not, first of all easy, 417 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you don't hear this is like the first type shit, 418 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: like like somebody talk about this this open you get 419 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm like leading the pack for a 420 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: new way right now, like and it's not easy. So yeah, 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: it's like it's gonna come out the way and come out. 422 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: But I just try to figure out, like, all right, 423 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: how can I best you know, paint the picture exactly 424 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: the way it is in my mind? 425 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: And then coming from Harlem, which is the pause capital 426 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: you even have that conversation without somebody. 427 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm grown like, yeah, like that's that's neither here nor there, 428 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: like you know, and yeah, pause, like it's still paused. 429 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Like my gay friends say paused. 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: They gotta be fami. I feel like the only gay 431 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: niggas that say paused. 432 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you said that you feel 433 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: like you should be in the conversations when it comes 434 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: to Kendrick Lamar, J Cole and Drake. Then somebody would say, 435 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: but it takes you too damn long. 436 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: To put out a project. That's what we do. 437 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: What was your mindset behind I thought I was dead. 438 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: They thought I was dead. I never thought I was dead. 439 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 5: Okay, well tell me that the mindset behind. 440 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: That, The mindset behind that was the l's comment. You 441 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He said I was a you know, 442 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: I was burnt out, trapped, little can't get it right. 443 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that so vivid. 444 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 4: You there, You're the most active from. 445 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: It for me, musmusically, musically, Yeah. And he said that 446 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: when I had like a song on a billboard with 447 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Nas Spicy and a song with Nicki Minaj. But I 448 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: love Els, you know, I love him even when he 449 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: don't know I do or if he don't think I do. 450 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that fueled me and I was just like, 451 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: you know what, this is great because for so long 452 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: I felt like nobody was trying to fuck with me, 453 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Like I needed somebody to like poke me, like poke 454 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: the beer so I could get better. Like so I 455 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: just used a fuel to just create. And yeah, and 456 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: also I was looking at Dion Sander's team. They just 457 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: kept losing, so I'm gonna create an anthem for them 458 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: and just for any But then it turned into for 459 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: anybody who was doubted. I wanted to create this anthem 460 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: for I feel. 461 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Like the album is kind of like that, Like you 462 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people doubted you in this 463 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: album and it's like, this is my way of giving 464 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: y'all a middle finger, telling y'all I'm back. 465 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: Nah, it wasn't really, It's a few. It wasn't a 466 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: lot of people, like because I know I'm lit, like 467 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: I that's not a question in my mind. It's just 468 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: I'm talking to a few people. Yeah, and you can 469 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: hear it, like, you know, I say some names, I'm 470 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: sly with some things, but you get a I'm very 471 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: transparent on this album. 472 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: Now you said that you corrected me. You never thought 473 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 5: you was dead. But you have a song called alive 474 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 5: with a sad face next to it. 475 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Alive Unhappy. It's called I just thought that'd be cool 476 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: to like use a emoji. That's a part of the title. 477 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: Another thing with the title, and I'm gonna get back 478 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: to what you was asking. The title reads, it's basically 479 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: a summary when you read it down of what the 480 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: album is about. 481 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: So you got work, thought I was dead? 482 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: Alive, the Lord demons, messy French tips, that homies captain 483 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: spelled fool chosen doubt exactly. 484 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: So what you asked again, unhappy? All right, So basically 485 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: now that leads us here, Uh, light work, because I'm 486 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: a light worker. Like I sat down with these mediums 487 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: and they told me I was a light worker. I 488 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: come to shed light in a place of dark. 489 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Work. 490 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not playing, We're here to fix things. So 491 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: light work. I come to shed dark I mean light 492 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: in a land of dark. So but in Harlem we 493 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: be like, oh, that shit is light work, that shit 494 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: is easy. So I'm like thinking, like, yo, this is 495 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: light work. And then I have my little cousin do 496 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: that on a song. This is light work. So light 497 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: work goes until they thought I was dead. They thought 498 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: I was dead because I've been going for four years. 499 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: And then you go to Alive Unhappy, which that but 500 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: then is speaking on the intro and then Alive Unhappy 501 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: is basically just saying like, nah, I'm not dead, I'm alive, 502 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: but I'm unhappy and that is the why I've been gone. 503 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: So alive unhappy, And then it goes into why the 504 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: allure with me in future, the allay of the game, 505 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: the money, the fame, the drugs, the booze, the everything. 506 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, we have five people die out of a sap, 507 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: Yams China, Jay, Scott, Pressy and Josh. Yeah, I won't 508 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: be surprised if it's like somebody are missing. But yeah, 509 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: so alive unhappy. Uh. And then you go into a law, 510 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: and then a law with the a law of the 511 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: game comes to demons. Now we're talking about the demons. Now, 512 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: what I said, rappers want to talk about demons out 513 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: there on Demon Time, but they don't open it up. 514 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not coming at no rappers. This is just 515 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: a pamphlet on or a blueprint on what we need 516 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: to do. Open those demons up and let's talk about it. 517 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: So I start talking about the demons. I see demons everywhere, 518 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Demons from the pain, Demons in my cup, demons in 519 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: my brain, Demons in the food, Demons with the fame, 520 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Demons in the sun, demons in the rain. She on 521 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: demon times. She don't need the vibe. No, I got 522 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: a girl. She don't even mind. I don't got a condom. 523 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to find demon in my mind telling 524 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: me it's fine. So we going to demons, and then 525 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: we go in to messy, because with demons, shit get messy, 526 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: and then messy it goes into French tips, you know, 527 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: getting messy with my girl and fucking up all of 528 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: that ship. But like I'm also showing gratitude towards my 529 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: lady and that song. And then we going to casting 530 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: spells on that homie. Sorry, that's another that's demons too, 531 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Like all my niggas is dying, all of that. I 532 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: gotta deal with that. And then we go in to 533 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: casting spells, which is like more about like manifestation where 534 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: we're talking about power words. Uh, that's why they call 535 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: it spelling. It's like casting spells every time you talk. 536 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: So you know, young Thug was locked up at the time, 537 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: and he was locked up behind bars for his bars. 538 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: So I did a painting. I painted all of my 539 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: my cover art too, So I did a painting called 540 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Young Thug, and then it has like bars like jail bars, 541 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: and then it has rico and blood behind bars. So 542 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: I was like, put put the rico behind bars because 543 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: we're getting locked up for our bars. So yeah, so 544 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: we got cast and spells. Then we go into pool. 545 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: This is when it like start getting real and in 546 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: the skin, into the spirit of what this album is about. 547 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: And then we go into uh Chosen because that is 548 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: an affirmation to myself, I'm the chosen one. And then 549 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: we go into Darryl. I arrived to myself for myself. 550 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: You talk on on the live you talk about how 551 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: you only got one more album with Sony. 552 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Now that's thought I was dead. 553 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: I thought I was dead. I'm sorry, I done thought 554 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: I was dead. 555 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: What's important to you at this stage of your your 556 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: career when it comes to like just renegotiating if. 557 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: You even want to renegotiate, Uh, just more freedom, uh 558 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: more money. I got signed. I had three partners basically 559 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: in my pocket and easy and breezy. I never talk 560 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: about business. I never talk about family business. I might 561 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about family business and songs get trouble, 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: get in trouble for it sometimes. But yeah, I had, 563 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, three partners, and I had to work through 564 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: that for ten years. So everything that you see I have, 565 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I had to work like ten times harder to get it. 566 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: So now you know, I have one more album. I'm 567 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna make some more money. You know what I'm saying, 568 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: point blank period. I got things I need to do. 569 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: And I noticed on the Law of people were talking 570 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: about futures verse people were assuming that he was talking 571 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: about Gunna. Of course, when people send you verses, do 572 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: you listen or do you not care? That's their own 573 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: artistic way of feeling. 574 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely listen. I'm listening, and I know what 575 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: people was talking about. But yeah, artistic freedom. I'm not 576 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: allowing nobody to like it's words. At the end of 577 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: the day, you know what I'm saying, and his words 578 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: like we see I think Future and Drake just got 579 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: linked back up and they cool again. And Okay, well, 580 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: you know I met Gunner through Thug, so I'm lawyer 581 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: to Thug. Whatever Thug say, is good. It's good, you 582 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: know I love I love Thug and I've grown a 583 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: love for Gunner and when I see him, it's love. 584 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, whatever Thug say. 585 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: Have you spoken to Dougs? 586 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: I haven't spoke to Thug when he was home, but 587 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: I went to his girl's show and we had spoke 588 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: on the phone. 589 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 5: How was the work of withmrgie Bline? You got her 590 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 5: on two tracks? 591 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Mary is the Queen. Mary is literally the best in 592 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: the world, Like we are the same spirit, like uptown energy, 593 00:30:53,160 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: her remixing like Royeers songs. I love Royeers. Yeah, it's 594 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: like it was a dream for me to work with her. 595 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: She actually chose four songs to like jump on. She 596 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: wound up getting on too, But yeah, I do a 597 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: whole album with her. She's amazing. 598 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: How therapy kept you grounded, more poised. 599 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: It gave me tools to work through thoughts. It's like 600 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I look at my therapists like a life manager, Like 601 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: we got managers for our money, we got managers for 602 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: our work, and like we need managers for our mind. 603 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: And you might need a spiritual spiritual god too, to 604 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: like guide you through the unseen. So it's like that's 605 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: how I look at therapy. It's just like a life manager. 606 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: It helps me put things into perspective, like you said, 607 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: unwinding things and breaking conditions and like understanding where things 608 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: is rooted, so you could kind of look at it 609 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: and just be like, oh, that's popping back up, let 610 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: me dive in. And then also like meditation. I've been 611 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: meditating for about five years now, like religiously. When I 612 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: had like heavy anxiety, I was meditating for thirty minutes 613 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: in a day as soon as I wake up, and 614 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: then thirty minutes before I go to sleep. And then 615 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: that shit literally that in the therapy. Like I used 616 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: to go into the therapy office and my leg was 617 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: moving like this. I used to watch my father do 618 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: that all the time. And when I first walked in there, 619 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: he said, you see your leg moving like that? And 620 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I was like, and then I just stopped. He was like, yeah, 621 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: that's anxiety. And anxiety also don't only have to be 622 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: from trauma or whatever. It can be you're happy, you're excited. 623 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you want to see what it's gonna do. 624 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: It Like when I walked Kendrick through harlem My anxiety 625 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: was through the roof because I'm like, Kendrick one of 626 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: my favorite rappids, So it's like that right there was like, uh, 627 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: that was that was cool. That was some cool ship. 628 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Niggas can't do that, you know what I'm saying. And 629 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: he was protected. Nothing happened on my watch. He was 630 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: more nervous about like me, sure, I wasn't even thinking 631 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: about that. Te Ferd really thought about that because I 632 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: just don't think shit gonna happen to me at all. Yeah, 633 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: but like, yeah about that you walking walking him through 634 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: a Harlem. So I had one to his show and 635 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I got a day off tomorrow. 636 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you trying to go to Harlem? Hm? 637 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: He was like yeah, I'm down. And then Dave Free 638 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: called me. He was like, Yo, this nigga really trying 639 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: to pull up the halem. So I had to like 640 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: put a whole itinerary together and randomly wound up being 641 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Dapper Dan's birthday that day. He didn't even know I 642 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: was coming to see him, And I brought Kendrick to 643 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Melbourns and then we went to Dapper Then I brought 644 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: him to my hood showed them like the stupid that 645 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: you know I used to hang out on and it 646 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: was like he's like, you know, they don't got hydrants 647 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: open in La, so he's like touching the water act 648 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: like that whole water. Yeah. I just thought it was 649 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: cool and it kind of like I seen the kid 650 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: in them. Like we walked through two fifth, like from 651 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: like seventh to eighth, and you know, like we walked 652 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: past the Apollo. He looking at the DVDs that they 653 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: got on the table, and it was early, so all 654 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: the kids is in school, so it wasn't like crazy mayhem. 655 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: We was like lo. We was like damn, like where 656 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: everybody at? And then I crossed the street we went 657 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 1: and we got like some mangos from the Mexican lady. 658 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: So it was cool. And that's what is that the 659 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: video where he did the pull ups? Yeah he beat 660 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: t Ferg and the pull ups. Yeah, they got it. 661 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: They gotta do a rematch. We said, we gotta go 662 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: to Compton and they gotta do the rematch because we 663 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: can't go out like that. 664 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: East Coast another thing people were talking about earlier this year. 665 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if you spoke about this anywhere, but 666 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: when they was looking for Rocky to be on Romelo. 667 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, put it out. 668 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 3: He wasn't doing there. 669 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: I think Rocky low Ki used that verse for another song. Yeah, yeah, 670 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: so that's what happened. But he ain't telling me that, 671 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: so you had to take him off. I didn't take 672 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: him off that. The version still exists. We can still 673 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: put it out, yo, everybody, all the fans go hond 674 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Rocky to drop his version of Romelo, because whatever other 675 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: song he dropped, we don't remember that. Go drop the 676 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: Romelo verse. We need that. That back and forth is 677 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: crazy on some Jada and styles, going back and forth crazy. 678 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 4: And you know, people always talk about your face when 679 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: they when they did the they showed that video of 680 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 4: Rocky talking about fighting in jail. 681 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: Classic for whatever reason, that goes. 682 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: Super viral on TikTok all the time, and they always 683 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 4: doing it on your face. 684 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: What were you thinking of that moment. I was just listening. 685 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking, and I didn't even realize I 686 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: was doing all of that with my face until I like, 687 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I seen a mic drop like this, 688 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I'm like and I'm like, because 689 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: this is news to me, Like I never first of 690 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: all casting Ova. When he first came home, he told 691 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: me he was locked up with Flocker, and I didn't 692 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: know that Rocky was locked up, so that was news. 693 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: And then when I think I brought it up or 694 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: he brought it up during that interview, and then he 695 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: started going to the details. This was all news to me. 696 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just reacting to the news and I didn't 697 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: know I was looking like that. 698 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: Did you talk about its? 699 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we laughed about it. You Rocky likes shit 700 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: like that. He's silly like he Rocky is. Yeah, he 701 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: he Rocky a different type of dude, Like he ain't 702 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: tripping about none of that shit, at least to me. 703 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 3: Do you miss that having the whole gang around? 704 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't because it was a time. It 705 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: was a time when we was kids. A lot of 706 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: it was fun, but a lot of it I was 707 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: just like, man, I can't wait till I have my 708 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: own bus. I can't wait till like it's my time 709 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: to like pick out people who I want to roll 710 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: with me and do my thing. Cause I don't smoke weed, 711 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do a lot of the things 712 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: like I mean, the girls. Yeah, we was doing a 713 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: lot of the teens, but we you know, it was 714 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: some fun moments in that and I like to leave 715 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: it like that, like it's legendary, Like I wouldn't want to, 716 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, if it's a thing where like any of 717 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: my brothers need anything, like I could put up on 718 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: twelve V work through stuff or you know. But yo, 719 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: that's eleven years in front of y'all. But like you 720 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But before that, we like in 721 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: Harlem doing the same thing, but not in front of 722 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: the world. So you know, all together, it's probably like 723 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: seventeen years of just us. I'm ready for new new things, 724 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, And like I said, 725 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: if any of them need anything, I'm here. I do 726 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: sorry to cut your wisdom, but I do feel like 727 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: we gotta get this asap movie together, and we gotta 728 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: get the Yams stuff together and tell a story because 729 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: we are getting of age and it's that. 730 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: Time y'all going after you think Yams being Yams, he 731 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: felt like the heart and soul of everything. You think 732 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 4: when he passed, that like changed everything, the whole dynamics 733 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 4: of the group or the crew. 734 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: When he passed, for sure, because Jams was fighting. Like 735 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: I watched Jams catching siege at Coachella. He went to 736 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: the hospital when he came back and he he's still 737 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: trying to fight to everybody and talk like, well, he 738 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: wasn't fighting, but he was like fighting through that having 739 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: another seizure, you know, while talking and trying to get 740 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: everybody together because you got different textures and you know, 741 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: I might be like silk, and like Rocky might be 742 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: like hemp, and like uh Nas might be like leather. 743 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: So you're trying to mesh all of these different fabrics 744 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: together and that's a tough thing to do, especially coming 745 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: from Harlem like and Yams like Yams Yams. Every time 746 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: he talked, it's just like he was getting electrocuted. He 747 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: he just catch another It's not funny, but like at 748 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: that moment, I'm like, yo, bro, you're gonna die, Like 749 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: you gotta stop you You're stressing yourself out way too much. 750 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: Like and that's I don't miss that. I don't miss 751 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: that energy and I don't miss but it was it 752 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: made me into who I am, and I know that 753 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: that's a very real thing. And that's why I also 754 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: feel like this album is important. 755 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 5: You speak about therapy like in past, and you know 756 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 5: you're not in therapy anymore. 757 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, No, this is my therapy now, you know, 758 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: talking to y'all. So whenever I need to like talk 759 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: to somebody, I'm gonna come here. Nice. 760 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 4: You definitely go to your therapy, like you said, it's 761 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 4: something that you keep, like it's like a doctor. 762 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: If I need it, like I will go. But it 763 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: was times where like I'll just go and be like, Yo, 764 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: how's the family, and then like, yeah, the family is good? 765 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so I was like, how was Thanksgiving? And 766 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: we ain't got nothing to talk because I got the 767 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: tools I get you. 768 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, talk to us about Ferg apparel. You're relaunching. 769 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just show it. Okay, that's what's uping. That 770 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 5: was your pops line, right, yeah, and you're relaunching it. 771 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: It was it's a family brand from the furg Empire. 772 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: My father started in nineteen ninety four, had a store 773 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: in one forty fifth between seventh and eighth, And yeah, 774 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: I just thought it was time, like with like this 775 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: whole me going back to the roots, I just thought 776 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: it was only right. I never really put the energy 777 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: into like relaunching the brand. I always used the logo, 778 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: but I wanted to relaunch the brand, and I felt 779 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: like it was a whole demographic that wasn't getting fed. 780 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: And that's like the uptown energy, Like we don't got that. 781 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: We don't got that. In fashion, we don't got the stories. 782 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: And nowadays kids love going shopping advantage stores and stuff 783 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: like that because those close hold stories in it, and 784 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: they want to be in those stories. 785 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: Now. 786 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: They they spend like one thousand dollars on like a 787 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Selena shirt or like you know, Tina Turner. So I 788 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to like provide the stories to them because 789 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: that's important. They were like my friend's son, we was 790 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: all working out, well, my uncle's son, he was we 791 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: was working out yesterday and his son is fourteen years 792 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: well seventeen years old, and he's just like asking me, 793 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: like yo, when you were seventeen, like how you was 794 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: doing it? So they need the information. They need the information, 795 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: so I want to give it to him. 796 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: I was watching a hand in gene Views. I saw 797 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 4: you on their on effective immediately, Yeah, you said you 798 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 4: got a job at rock Nation. 799 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a job at rock Nation. 800 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 5: So J. J. 801 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: Brown is my manager and along with Kaylee and I 802 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: brought in my uncle Dion, but I had an internship 803 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: at Rockefeller back in the day, well not Rockefeller, but 804 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: Rock a War and yeah, so we we working together, 805 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: like and it's nice. 806 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: You got you, got, you got you. 807 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 4: My last question, man, I saw a quote, Well you 808 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: said it's okay to grow up, and that's what I 809 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: want to show my community on this album. So it 810 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: just made me wonder, why do you think our community 811 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 4: is the one that judges people for something as simple 812 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 4: as wanting to grow up or wanting to better yourself. 813 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: We watched all of the great people do it. Jay Z, Kendrick, 814 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: J Cole. I love Snoop. Snoop is my favorite rap 815 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: of in the world. We got the same birthday, October twentie. 816 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Snoop is my favorite rapper because he was the first 817 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: to show his kids like, yo, this is my family, 818 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: this is my kids, and be like a gangster rapper. 819 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: Like I thought that was super dope and he could 820 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: be gangster but also still be gangster and do a 821 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: Martha Steward show and not look like he compromising himself. 822 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's some libra shit, but 823 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: I rock with that. 824 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: Let's get into a joint off the album what you 825 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: want to Hear Chosen? Yeah, all right, well we'll get 826 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 2: into that now. 827 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: The album Darryl is out right now and we appreciate 828 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: you for joining us. 829 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: Brother. Yes, it's Berg. 830 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. 831 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The 832 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club