1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Almost famous, the ogs our Pebble Beach podcast with my 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: handsome co host Andrew Firestone sitting in for my normal 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: co host, trust to Suttern da Ren. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm doing the best I can, trist I'm 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep up the seat, keep it warm. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: You're doing a great job, buddy, You're doing an absolutely 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: great job. I gotta be honest, not as fun to 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: look at you, but you're still doing. A day before, 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: we are joined by Sondra and c K. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: I call you, c K. Do you want to call Charles? 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: All right, Sondra and c K, Now, guys, I am 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: so excited to have you both on the show. 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: First of all, your history. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Why don't you let our viewers know and our listeners 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: know kind of how you came into the public eye 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: and how you ended up being a part of this 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: whole community. 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 4: Okay, public eye, Yeah, before the Batchelor No, no, with 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: the Bachelor, Okay, Okay, Well, Tay just applied and here 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: I was one of twenty three out of thirty five 22 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: thousand applicants. 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 5: I'm bragging, of course, top twenty Yeah. 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, first ever Golden Bachelor. 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeahah, it was great and you were great of a show. 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: You made a big impact with people, and you obviously 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: made a lot of friends within the Bachelor Nation community 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: because I know that Kathy and I've been with Kathy 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: and Susan and a bunch of different things, and your 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: name has come up a ton, so I know you 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: guys are all still great friends and you know, have 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: a lot of fun together. Do you get a chance 33 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: to get together with the Bachelor Nation people as much 34 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: as you want to? 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 5: Of course not. 36 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'd love to see them all again and 37 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: again and again, but we all live in different parts 38 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: of the US of A. And what are you going 39 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: to do with that? But that's what texting and emailing 40 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: is for. 41 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, modern technology, right, very spectacular. 42 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: And how was your experience on the show, Like when 43 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: you left, how are you feeling about your relationship with Gary? 44 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: Did you feel like you had enough time with them? 45 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: You know, where was your head space? 46 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: Okay? 47 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: None of us ever has enough time with the league, 48 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: as you know, that's the way they format the show, 49 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 4: which is fine. 50 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: But the times I did spend with him were excellent. 51 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: We had great conversations which America never saw because it 52 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: was a one hour show forty four minutes without commercials, 53 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: so it was very limited. But boy did we have 54 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: some good conversations. I'm sure he did with other women 55 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: as well. 56 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, it was great. 57 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Let's go back to before you got on, so there's 58 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: always a backstory on They told me that I should 59 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: definitely apply, or they told me you're crazy, you shouldn't 60 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: do that. I want to hear both sides. I want 61 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: to say, who was your biggest advocate? Was it was 62 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: it family? Was it friends telling you you got to 63 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: go and do this? Sodre you would be perfect? 64 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 5: And as a matter of fact, no one really. I 65 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 5: applied with that. 66 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Well, good for you. 67 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: When I applied, I did call my oldest daughter and 68 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: she helped me do some wordsmithing on the application. But 69 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: I didn't tell anyone, maybe for fear that they wouldn't 70 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: accept me. But here's the thing. After I applied, send 71 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: it in, printed it out, send it in, I. 72 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 5: Totally forgot about it. 73 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: But you know then I didn't hear from anyone for 74 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: three months and so and life just went on. 75 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Was there anybody though that that when you announced it? 76 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: He said, I'm going to go and do this crazy thing. 77 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Did anybody say, ge't do you know you're going to 78 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: get hurt or or don't do it to protect you? 79 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: No, because you know what, I followed the rules they said, 80 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: don't tell anyone except the people who are going to 81 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: collect your mail and walk your dog and all that 82 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: inside and my daughter's I told him my very best 83 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: friend and. 84 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: That was and everyone was positive. 85 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're positive. That's fun. And they had to 86 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: be so I had to be a big surprise when 87 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: they saw you on the TV. 88 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: They were proud of me, very proud of And it 89 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: was one of those guess who I know? 90 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 5: Saunder? My friend was, Yeah, I had more street crid 91 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 5: than ever at that boy. 92 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, are there any any regrets as you sit here 93 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: right now, I mean you have a big smile on 94 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: your face. I mean you're you know, but any regrets 95 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: about it? Any any moments that you thought, oh my gosh. 96 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: Oh well sure, I can't believe I wore that dress, 97 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: or I can't believe I said that, or. 98 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: They you know, the big fart on TV. 99 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: What the was That's a whole other story, guys, backstory, 100 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: but that's funny. 101 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Of course, there regrets, but yeah, but it was a 102 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: great experience. 103 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. 104 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I said this earlier with Andrew. 105 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Andrew and I've been around for twenty some years now 106 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: around the bass for franchise, and the beauty of it 107 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: is those friendships that you've made and those memories that 108 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: you share never go away, right, you know, they just 109 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: kind of grow with time. 110 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Excellent? How about are you c k same for you? 111 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: Like how was your experience getting onto the show and 112 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: and how is experience going through it? 113 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: Well, I'll kind of get to right getting on the 114 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 6: show right, which was a journey. Yeah, And To's point, 115 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: it's it's a process. And I really appreciate the network 116 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 6: for going through the process, whether it's background checks or 117 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 6: physical check and so sure I did appreciate that. Yeah, 118 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 6: but it's a long elongated process. And I went back 119 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 6: and forth quite a bit, and I would say I'm 120 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 6: not going to do it, and then my boss would 121 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 6: call me on a Sunday and goes. 122 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 7: No, you're going to do it, Charles. It's time something. 123 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I call them back and you know, next week, 124 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 6: I go, no, I'm not feeling uncomfortable. I don't think 125 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 6: I'm going to do it, and then he and my 126 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 6: CEO will get on the phone say, look, if you 127 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 6: don't do what, we're gonna fly to California, we're going 128 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: to fire ourselves. 129 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: So they really were pushing you. 130 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 6: My company, I Attenable in Maryland was very supportive and 131 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 6: we talked about them. I mean they would give the 132 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 6: women that watch the show with that okay, okay, seek 133 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 6: I go out to Maryland. Let's let's practice you get 134 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 6: out of the limit things. 135 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: That's so great, Sodre, you were keeping it, you know, 136 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: a secret, and here's he's the guys out there telling everything, 137 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: getting advice And why. 138 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 7: Did you tell my company right? Because I have to 139 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 7: be away for it. 140 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Sure. 141 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we're kind of spread it. It was 142 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: all the way from my executive step down to the 143 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 6: desktop people. 144 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 7: Everyone just had so much fun with it. 145 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 6: Week to week, I would quit, I get a call 146 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 6: from the janitor at the company. 147 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: You can't quit. 148 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 7: You have to come back, and. 149 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: That's awesome. So it was a real community wanting you 150 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: to succeed it. 151 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 152 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 6: I felt very supportive from everyone at my company and 153 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 6: in my family. My brother didn't believe it. I told 154 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 6: him because I had to tell them to watch my house. Yeah, 155 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 6: and he goes, I don't believe it. And then the 156 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 6: first commercial came out he saw it. He says, I 157 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 6: still don't believe it until I see CGI. 158 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: That's not yes. But I think that the you know, 159 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: the vetting process or the pros you know, sonder you 160 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: might have had thinking about it. What do I want 161 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: to do? Do I want to do this? Do I 162 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: want to put myself out there? Do I potentially embarrass myself? 163 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Potentially have this amazing experience? All that kind of introspective 164 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: I think strengthens your resolve and probably makes that experience 165 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: that much better because you're like, no, this is my decision. 166 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. Nobody convinced me except for your boss. 167 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: But I think that's that's a valuable process, you know, 168 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: to go one thousand. 169 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 6: I think you know for me that the difficult part 170 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 6: is I work and live in an environment that's so 171 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 6: factual that you come into this environment. Now you have 172 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 6: to be vulnerable, you have to be open, you have 173 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 6: to put yourself out there, and then all of that 174 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 6: goes with this unassuredness that you have because you can't 175 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 6: control the outcome, right, And I live in an environment 176 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 6: where I can control or predict the outcome and this 177 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 6: is this is a bad So I think that for 178 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 6: me was my decision. 179 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think I've heard the word vulnerable more 180 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: in the last two days in talking and talking to this, 181 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: to this this crew, and and you know, also what 182 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: we talked about is confidence. And I think that this 183 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: is the most confident group of people that have been 184 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor because life experience, because you've done it, 185 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: You've been there, and you you know, like, you know 186 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: what you you know what you want and if. 187 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: And what do you have to lose? 188 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 7: What do you yeah, what do you have. 189 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: To lose at our age? 190 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? But what do you have to gain? Everything? 191 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: You know? Like and if if it if it doesn't 192 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: work out. You've made amazing friends. You've been able to, 193 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, ask yourself a bunch of questions, sit alone 194 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: in your thoughts, and really I think helped shape what 195 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: the next chapter is going to be, whether it's with 196 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: that bachelor, bachelorette, or if it's just you know, your 197 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: next chapter. 198 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Overall. I have to tell you guys. 199 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: In my toast to welcome everyone last night, I said, 200 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, the first time I did this event, I 201 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: was the youngest person here and now Andre and I 202 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: are the whipper snappers, right, But I will say this, 203 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Uh we we talked about this last night Amy Sugarman 204 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: and our team and we're like, we're doing all gold 205 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: and all the time because the you guys. 206 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Come in and like Andrew said, everybody's vulnerable. 207 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: Everybody's that's like you said earlier in an interview, like 208 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: the Bravado's down. The confidence is up and you're dealing 209 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: with real people who are sharing real emotions. 210 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: It's amazing, right, And it's not provided. It's earned confidence. 211 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: It's from you know, it's you know, it's you know, 212 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: the younger you know has a different experience because they're 213 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of bright eyed, bushy tailed, you know, optimistic, you 214 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: know what can happen. They want you to think that 215 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: they're yeah, and uh, you know. Conversely, you know, you 216 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: have this kind of life of experience that you know 217 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: that that gives you a different perspective, which I think 218 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: is so refreshing and very honest and very authentic. 219 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: Earned confidence is what you said. 220 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 7: I think if I can just I don't disagree. 221 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 6: Role ceremonies, group dates, one on one, the whole environment 222 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 6: of the experience, it takes your at least for me, 223 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 6: it takes your My confidence was very cyclical among all 224 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: the men. 225 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: It was just me. 226 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 6: And one of the things that was gonna about my 227 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 6: group of men was that we all instilled confidence in 228 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 6: each other. 229 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: You know. 230 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 6: If I was down, like see man, I'm look at 231 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: you bro this Yeah yeah, but I didn't get a 232 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 6: group they had no more about that, but look at this, this. 233 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: This sure sure, and it was just that's totally different 234 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: than the young men. 235 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 236 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: So I think in the younger, you know, version of 237 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, everyone's oh, you're down, I'm gonna I'm gonna 238 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: push you down. 239 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: You know. 240 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. You know, 241 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I want you to feel insecure, I want you to 242 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: feel anxious. 243 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're preying on it because it raises. 244 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: You up in comparison, that's upposed raising up the other guys. 245 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: The reason why I loved uh the casting both for 246 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: Gary season and Jones season. And I've said this a 247 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: bunch just because it was it wasn't that stunt casting 248 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: that The Bachelor has sometimes been known to do, right 249 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: when they throw somebody in who they know is just 250 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: gonna be a thorn and. 251 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: Every side or whatever. 252 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: It was really good and it was age appropriate as well. Right, 253 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: we didn't have, you know, a bunch of people in 254 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: this age segment and then we throw in a thirty 255 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: five year old Is it randomly just stir up the 256 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: SoC faces? 257 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, we didn't have that. 258 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: And the thing I loved too, especially about Jones season 259 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: with the guys, well actually in Gary season with the 260 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: ladies as well, was it reminded me of my first 261 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: season when I was on Trista's season of the Bachelorette. 262 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: So I started on the Bachelorette before I became the Bachelor. 263 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: I was one of Trista's rejects. Yeah, and I was. 264 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Actually learned that badge. 265 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: Probably I think I was actually technically the first lovable 266 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: loser that turned into the Bachelor. But I started this 267 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: whole day, I think, No, just kidding, but I love 268 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: those guys. Like we got along great, and we got 269 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: some heat from producers at the time, like they were like, hey, 270 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: this isn't like supposed to be a love fest, you know, 271 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: and uh, but we kind of persevered with that. We 272 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: stayed buddies, and I loved it still buddies to this 273 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: day and a lot of the guys and it's really 274 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: fun to catch up with them and you know, check 275 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: in and you know, and that's two years. 276 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Ago, you know. So when you went on your season, 277 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: did you know who the bachelor was going to be. 278 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 7: Ahead of time? 279 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 5: No, we didn't tell us. 280 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: So that's so that's the same when I was on 281 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: it a long time ago. It used to be a 282 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: surprise when when you know, when I came out of 283 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: the out of the limousine, nobody know who I was, 284 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and so I didn't know who any of the women were. 285 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: They didn't know who he was going to be the bachelor. 286 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: That added I think a layer of kind of like 287 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, like innocence to the whole thing, because 288 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: there's no preconceived notions and and I think that's kind 289 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: of a nice thing. And I mean, of course the opposite, 290 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: there might be no there might be no chemistry at all, 291 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: which is fine, that's natural. You don't have chemistry with 292 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: every single person. But if I thought I knew you 293 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: because of TV, and I went to meet you because 294 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: you're on TV, and then you're not what I thought, 295 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: that's even worse. 296 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: That is so funny that you say that, because my 297 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: season was they announced me as the Bachelor, and then 298 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: they opened it up for applications, So it was an 299 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: ego stroke, right, Oh, well, you have so many people 300 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: want to sign up for this, But then it was 301 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure because then I'm like, well, wait 302 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: a minute, what if they're only coming on because of 303 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: who they think I am? 304 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: And then I'm not that guy. 305 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: I literally, just just before you say it was an 306 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: ego stroop, they had a tough time. 307 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: They call mom my, Mom's like, I got ten girls 308 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: on standby, you gotta do no. 309 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: But I agree with that. 310 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: I think it will be and I think the next 311 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sure what they're going to do 312 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: for the next step of the Golden franchise, but we've 313 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit while I have it 314 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: with you sound obviously, but was c K last night. 315 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: I feel like the Golden Franchise is kind of reinvigorated 316 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: the whole Bachelor franchise and reinvigorated bacheloration because it's a 317 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: return to like what he, Andrew and I had, which 318 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 2: it wasn't a bunch of cat fighting and backstabbing and 319 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: everything else. It was just people there, you know, optimistic 320 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: and hopeful. You know, it wasn't like there was some 321 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: type of an agenda. I mean, there wasn't even tooth 322 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: whitening strips back then, right, So that's that. 323 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Was what people want. They want that they want the 324 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: story with the fairy tale, and even if it doesn't 325 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: work out happily ever after, it's that like authentic chase 326 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: of of that dream that everybody wants to be a 327 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: part of. Now. You know, it's fun to watch the 328 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: cat fights, and there's there's there's a guilty pleasure and. 329 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 7: All of that. 330 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: There's always a bit of it. But but I think 331 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: the I think the thread that has kept it together 332 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: is that as a as a viewer, you're like, I 333 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: want this to work out. I want Saunder to be happy, 334 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I want c k to be happy and whatever whatever 335 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: that is, whether it's with that person or in life. 336 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: And that's why people are going to follow you afterwards. 337 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: They're going to want to know what your story is 338 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: and they want you to be happy. And that's a 339 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: really nice thing. 340 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll have people invested with. 341 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: I've heard that what you're saying, I've heard that from 342 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: people I bump into at the stores and at the 343 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: airport they say that same thing, and a lot of 344 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: them say, well, I watched it when it first started, 345 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: but then I got tired of it. But when they 346 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 4: introduced a golden badger or I really got interested in 347 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 4: and now I hope they do it again and. 348 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. 349 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: So it's like you said, Bob, it reinforced the whole 350 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: friend shine to have the golden. 351 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Lit it back up. People want to pay attention again. 352 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a big hats off 353 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: to casting. 354 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: I really do know. 355 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the people that they bring on you know 356 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: that that have genuine I don't know, you can, they 357 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 2: say you can, and I know this is set in 358 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: a different way, but they say that if someone's faking 359 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: it on camera, you can see it right like you 360 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: can't hide, of course, and to see that authenticity from 361 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: all of y'all in the vulnerability. As we said, we've 362 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: heard that word a lot, and even from the guys 363 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: this weekend. 364 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: I think people relate to that. 365 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes you forget the cameras on or your 366 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 6: your mic I mean you just forget, yeah, because you're 367 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 6: so in the moment. 368 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 7: But I want to say this about friendships. 369 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Right. 370 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 6: So I was in the supermarket and this lady comes, 371 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 6: Oh my god, you see cackle and she goes, is 372 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 6: it really true that you guys are really friensical? Yeah, 373 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 6: we're all really So I get my phone out. 374 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 7: She doesn't believe it. 375 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 6: So I get my phone out and I'm going through 376 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 6: all the guys and you know, I go, see there's 377 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 6: Mark right there. She goes, if I push this button 378 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 6: right here, I'm gonna call Mark in. She pushes the button, 379 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 6: He answer the phone, and she walks off. 380 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 7: And I think I walked. 381 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: Away thinking I can call any any moment. Yeah, I 382 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 6: won't go to voicemail, like they'll answers the phone and go, hey, 383 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: what's up? 384 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: What do you need? Right? And I think that that 385 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, in your seasons, the people that go on 386 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: have the most to lose, meaning you're the most to risk, 387 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the most to lose, because you have you have, you 388 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: have a family, you have, you have a job, you have, 389 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: you have your life. When you're going on as a 390 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty six year old, it's like, you know, 391 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: it's just as summer vacation. For a lot of people, 392 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: they got a couple of weeks. Yeah, and like you know, 393 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: if you go in there and you embarrass yourself or 394 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: whatever else, your your heart's broken, whatever else, you get 395 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: over it. But I think that the that the friendships 396 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: and the relationships that you guys have started from what 397 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: I've heard, are so much more impactful because I think 398 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: you recognize, Listen, we're taking time out of our real lives. 399 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: We're taking away, you know, from our from our work 400 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: and family and all these things to go and do 401 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: this together. So it's like this, uh, you know, almost 402 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: like a Stockholm syndrome where like you guys are in 403 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: this you're listening together. 404 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, together, All right, guys, Well let's let's get to it. 405 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: So recently, the two of you became a little bit 406 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: of a tabloid fodder. 407 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,359 Speaker 3: You kind of hit hit the zeitgeist. 408 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: No, that was Ai. 409 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: That was that Ai. It seems like there was a 410 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: post I'm gonna read this. 411 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Let's see there was a K at three am, staying 412 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: out at three am, and that there was a photo 413 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: that was shared about you guys on a first date. 414 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: That's pretty spectacular. Can we let's talk about it? 415 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: Talk about it? 416 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: How happen? 417 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: What happened. 418 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 7: Well, it was really three am. 419 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Well that's nice. 420 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it kind of reminded 421 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: me of being back in high school, you know where, 422 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 6: you know, you drop her off, you're sitting in the car. 423 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 6: We'll just talk, and then a couple of minutes, thirty minutes, 424 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: an hour, and then she gets to leave. 425 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 7: I got no, what about so and so? And then 426 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 7: another hour goes. 427 00:16:53,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know that's called kidnapping, right, But you're also 428 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 8: not at this at this stage of the game. 429 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: You're not worried about her dad flipping on the porch 430 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: light either, right, So you got the. 431 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 6: She was staying with a friend of hers and there 432 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 6: was a light thing like is the light on or off? 433 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: That kind of thing. There was a little bit of 434 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 6: conversation about that. But yeah, it was an amazing experience. 435 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to hear the other side pretty quiet. 436 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 5: He was full of ship. I'm just kidding. 437 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. 438 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: I love that. 439 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: No, we really did have good conversation through dinner before dinner, 440 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: because we had to wait to get in there. During 441 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: dinner afterwards, like, there was so much to talk about 442 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: the show, our individual lives, how we got where we are, family, kids, 443 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: the whole. 444 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: It was just there was just a lot to and 445 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: where was this? 446 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Where was this? 447 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: You guys met up in Georgia and I was here 448 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: for the Rose Bowl parade and. 449 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: This is just recently. 450 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys met at Mentell all right, at the 451 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: Mental All Special correct, and then and then the first 452 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: date was during the Rose Bull time, right. 453 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 6: So let's let's go back. So the Mentell all, I 454 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: see song and I know who she was for me 455 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: and I want to always want to introduce myself as 456 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 6: a courtesy. 457 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 7: Sure, and I see her. 458 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 6: And I go and you know what the Mental All afterwards, 459 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 6: everybody's scorning, it's getting pulled. Yeah yeah, and so I 460 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: passed my soundra and they're pulling me back. 461 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 7: Go hey call me, she goes, I don't. 462 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: Have you know, it's like a bachelor phone tree. It's 463 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: like a dial in. 464 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: So why did you give her? 465 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: You know? 466 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 6: But I knew that we were I don't want to 467 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 6: see is it friends on Instagram? 468 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Okay? 469 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like install friends following? 470 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, we following on the Instagram. 471 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 6: And so in my mind I felt like I can 472 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: always So they slid into. 473 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: The dmout with your kids. I've been married since Instagram's 474 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: been around. I've never slid into anybody's dms. This is 475 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: a sliding I just. 476 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: Said, hate, I just interment, here's my number. Is that 477 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 6: considered slide? 478 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that that is exactly the definition. 479 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go to somebody. 480 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 7: You have to know this person. 481 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 8: I know. 482 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: That's the whole that's is that you don't know them. 483 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I know her though, well apparently. 484 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: But love me. You didn't know me. 485 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 5: You knew you knew me. 486 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 7: I know. 487 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 6: If if my mother and I are following other on 488 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 6: Instagram and here's my number, is that sliding into my 489 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 6: mom's that's. 490 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: An entirely different count. 491 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: That's not that's not the. 492 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's totally different. Okay, So sliding d M, meet 493 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: out and pass because you were going to go out there. Okay, 494 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: this is a big question. So how long between when 495 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: he sent the d M did you respond to it? 496 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 497 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: Probably the same day, next day. I'm not sorry. I 498 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 5: try to. I try to keep up with my I 499 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 5: G I can't. But here's the thing, though, he you 500 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 5: slid an early sounds so naughty. 501 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: I love it. 502 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: What was October ISHU and his company had sent him 503 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: to Atlanta for a convention or something con and. 504 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 7: Can tell the stories go ahead for a few days. 505 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 7: I figured, I mean Saunders in Atlanta. 506 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: I called her up, and I made reservations at a 507 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: five star restaurant, and I went to right there in 508 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 6: Bucket because I was staying. 509 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: At yet I love Bucket. 510 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, real swinky. 511 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 512 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 7: So I get dressed up. 513 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a g. 514 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 7: Got to reservations. He calls me up. I kept sick. 515 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 7: I can't make it, blah blah blah. 516 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: I was in the hospital literally it. 517 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: No, she's not in the hospital. 518 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: She's just she's blowing you out. 519 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, you didn't believe. 520 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 5: I did not like that. Wow, I didn't know that. 521 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 6: If a girl, if a girl cancels on the first day. 522 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. 523 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: I hear you. So that was in October. Yeah, and 524 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: then so then did you communicate after October till. 525 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've spoken a few times. 526 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 3: She called I kind of you know you at the like, 527 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: I'm sick too. I can't take. 528 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: That revelation to me. 529 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: Seriously, look at you guys play these dating games. 530 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Man. 531 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: I love it. 532 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: I love it, but I mean, but you you can 533 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: understand why I mean he he put out the big 534 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: effort and then you pretend to be I mean, you 535 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: said you. 536 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: Believe me, I had in and out of me. 537 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 3: So now we know she was actually sex. 538 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: So now she's out in. Now she's out in your. 539 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 7: After the woods. Now it's and then did. 540 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: You tell him that you were gonna be out there? 541 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 542 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so so you okay, that's that's a good sign. 543 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: She instigated it, and going back the other way she 544 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: said okay, and so now so now dinner, dinner, long conversation. 545 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: So then you're into it till three in the morning. 546 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: So what happened at two fifty nine that said like, okay, 547 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: this is this is this is what's going to stop? 548 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Just running things to talk about? 549 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 7: Got it? 550 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Did it get awkward or was there exit, embrace anything that? 551 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: Do you remember specifically? 552 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: You both remember. 553 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened at the two fifty nine marks. 554 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm assuming after just knowing c K for a short 555 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: period of time. 556 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: C K got out of the car, walks you to 557 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: your door, right, you're at the door. 558 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: Was there a high five or there you. 559 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 3: Guys lean in? 560 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 7: I didn't, I didn't, Oh see it. 561 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Well that's okay, yeah, you watched me to Okay, but 562 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: before you watch, he watches you to the door, is there? Okay, 563 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: good night, and like you gotta shake hands, hug knuckles. 564 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: I think somewhere during the conversation we kissed, and I 565 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: don't know at what point. I don't know what inspired that. 566 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: I don't know, but we did kiss four or five seconds. 567 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 4: It was not like everlasting. 568 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 5: Is that a lot? 569 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: I got married for four or five seconds. My first 570 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: two kids were bored within four or five seconds. You kid, 571 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: A lot can happen during that time. 572 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 5: Okay, you're giving yourself away, Bob. 573 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, so now we know. Okay, So there 574 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: there's sparks something, whether it's a right spark, there's something 575 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: a little makeout side. 576 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: Curiosity more than spark. 577 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: What you say, Yeah, okay, and that was that the 578 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: last time you saw each other till today. 579 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: Yes, we've spoken a few times. Interesting, we're like phone 580 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: piles pin pals. 581 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean phone kiss. 582 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 7: Let me be clear, I'm going to be crystal. 583 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: You got it. 584 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: I am a guy, yes, sir, amens very attractive. 585 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're a g you said, yeah, you're pretty. 586 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: You're with the ogs. 587 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 7: That's right. You can't come home. You cannot. That is 588 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 7: not like rule book. 589 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: I agree one. Actually it's on my list the things 590 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: that must happen. 591 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: You can't come home without a kiss, or a film 592 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: or a felony. 593 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: And we've gotten both, sadly, so that kiss. 594 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, guys, just f y I 595 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: and and Andrew will test, and Hanna has got data, 596 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: dreams of data to back me up on this. There 597 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: are as many successful relationships that have come from contestants 598 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: from different seasons meeting at events just like these as 599 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: there are from the actual show itself. 600 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: I would say probably more. 601 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: I believe that. 602 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so if the two of you would like to 603 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: forego your individual rooms, you can stay in the Carmel 604 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Fantasy Suite. Yeah, room number seventeen. We'll kick, We'll kick 605 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: whoever's in there. Yeah. 606 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, the show it's a whole different show, everybody. 607 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: It's going next level. Matt Sondra took us there. 608 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: You guys are having Wait, well, guys, I sense chemistry here, 609 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: and I do realize geography is a challenge, right, So 610 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: in fact, I mean you live in Pasadena, you live 611 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: in Atlanta? 612 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: Correct? 613 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: And I know you are possibly gonna be going to 614 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: South Africa for a little bit soon. 615 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, so there. I live in Palos Versus way 616 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 6: on the other end of Okay, Angels, and of course 617 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 6: she's in Atlanta. Yeah, and it's a bit, it's a limited. 618 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just want to remind you guys, 619 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: Joan lives in Maryland. Chocolate's in Kansas. Just gonna put 620 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: it out there when I'm at Canyon. I lived in Michigan. 621 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 7: No, I didn't. 622 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I lived in LA and so did she. 623 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: I lived in LA but she lived in Vegas. That's 624 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: the truth. 625 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: And then but she says she was a working girl 626 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: in Vegas on you. I said that last night, and 627 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, can you I don't think that means what 628 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: you think it means. 629 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Luckily, there's great editing for this podcast. 630 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: They know I. 631 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: Mean giving us feet right now. It's like, yeah, And 632 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: then I had a sandwich and it was Carnda. But 633 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 634 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, Uh, there 635 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: will be a lot more events such as these where 636 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: you know you can have frequency of visitation. 637 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: And I'm just saying, no, you're playing Cupid is which 638 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: I am I like you both, so that's good. 639 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, don't, don't, don't cut it short before 640 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: you have to. 641 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: No, I think I think this is This is one 642 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: of the cool things that happens with the with the 643 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: network within the Bachelor is you find like minded people 644 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: that are kind, considerate, looking for the same things, willing 645 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: to be vulnerable, willing to open themselves up and. 646 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: Willing to take chances, willing to take chances. 647 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: And and with that, you know, whether it's you you 648 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: guys never have a three M conversation again, or if 649 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: you have a thousand more, it happened and you're better 650 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I think that's a really special thing. 651 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: So I'm a job. 652 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: Andrew is great at this. He doesn't think he's good 653 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: at this. I'm like, you're very good at this. 654 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: So philosophical, just like the Bachelor. He's me, but way better, 655 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: just like the when he's on the Bachelor. That's why 656 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: he's my favorite Bachelor right there. All right, we almost 657 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: famous the OG podcast. We're gonna let you guys off 658 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: the hook right now. We're gonna let you off the hook. 659 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: But we're not done. 660 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: We had more, Yeah, trust me, two more days of this. 661 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I can't wait to knock on your door three and like. 662 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: Got the camera door sixty nine. 663 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, Okay, turn your kid's eyes away from 664 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: the camera, everybody, we're talking about the room number sixty 665 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: nine now, all right, Well, thank you guys, Sondra c 666 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: K thank you both so much. This was so great 667 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: to make new friends. 668 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: I love this. 669 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 5: Thanks Andrew. 670 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 671 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 6: Being with the folks last night and all yesterday it 672 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 6: makes me feel like I'm just really really glad. Is hey, 673 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: I thank you for making me do this, because I'm 674 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 6: glad I did and just looking at Chalk and John 675 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 6: interact night it kind of made me endious and I thought, 676 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 6: you know. 677 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: What I want that Well, it just might be sitting 678 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: right next to you. I'm just gonna say. 679 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm married, So I think it's. 680 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah about oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 681 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, either way, he's just now getting the other 682 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: way the other way. 683 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: Give you cue cards, you gotta keep. He's quick. He's 684 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: got six hours of the golf course of me in 685 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: a little while. So yeah, you're gonna learn. 686 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: That sense of hum very fast, buddy. 687 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 6: I do appreciate that experience, you know. Chalk anticipated her needs. Yeah, 688 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 6: how she responded to him. I thought it was very, 689 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 6: very very classic. 690 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, they're the real deal, you know. 691 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: I like that we were talking about earlier, the quiet, 692 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: the kind of the quiet confidence that they have together 693 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: as a couple. 694 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: It's really refreshing, you know. 695 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: Not only that, but the franchise needs. 696 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Oh big time. 697 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: I think I think we said it. I think it 698 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: saved the day, reinvigorated the whole thing. 699 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: To me, it dead anyway, and I was fatigued as 700 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 2: a viewer, I'll just admit it. So it was like 701 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I was refreshed and I was excited, 702 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: and I loved the whole direction, and so yeah, I 703 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be great for the whole franchise, and 704 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: obviously great for them as a couple too. So and 705 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: who knows, maybe there are other couples in the making 706 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: right here on the couch between Andrew and I. 707 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, how do we overcome eight thousand miles? 708 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's called Delta Airlines. Ladies and gentlemen. 709 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: They're both hubs, all right, guys, almost famous OLG podcast, 710 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: Bubble Beach