1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to Tim. This is our life, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: this is our passion. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell to this this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: It is Monday, May eleventh, twenty twenty, and it is 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: time donks as I have this intro up for Morning Combat. Hi. Everyone, 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: this half hosting duo. Geez. I'm having a rough morning here, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: but actually I'm not. I'm actually feeling great. I got 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: some great sleep last night. But the good news is 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: I am not the only person hosting today's program. One 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: half of the other assignment is on the other side 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: of the screen. You know this Showleman very well from 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: CBS Sports, among many other places where he is cashing 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: him checks like Takashi six ' nine in the new 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Gooba video. It is my friend and yours Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: how are you, buddy? 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Luke. I am fired loves what I got. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: Don't start a ryot fights. We're back this weekend. I 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: was injected, I am ready, I am fired up. I 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: am pale and washy can't change that during the quarantine, 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: but can change my optimistical thoughts about the future. Luke. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: This show was designed, as you like to often say, 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: to react to fights, to set up fights, to do 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: things around live events. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: It feels really good to be back where we belong. 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can fill your quarantine whole with some dick 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: pics and stuff, but we like doing the real thing, Luke. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: We certainly do couple of housekeeping notes BC before we 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: get started. First things first, give the video a thumbs 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: up and subscribe. If you are new to this program, 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: and you could be because you're catching that YouTube algorithm, 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: give us a subscribe. It's totally free, tons of content 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: coming away, especially this week. You're gonna want to stay 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: tuned for that, and lots of great analysis here between 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: BC and I. And as you mentioned, who doesn't love 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: a a round of dick pics. I don't know. 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: It's his. 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I'll let him explain that a little bit later. We're 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: more known on this BC. First, if I can, speaking 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: of free, you want to get a free trial of 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Showtime in You can do that. Go to showtime dot 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: com right now. You can have a thirty day free 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: trial if you like it. You can stick around. If not, 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: you can bounce a pound sand either way. BC, this 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: show Morning Combat is gratis. 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. It is free. Okay, so can 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: you subscribe already? Folks? All right, put the ring on it. Okay. 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: But you've been dabbling. You've been you know, you know, 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: you know, you've been circling the rim for a while. 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: Let's get down to business here and make this. Let's 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: consume it. Let's let's consummate anyway. Enough awkwardness. I'm not 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: here for awkwardness. I'm here to excitedly react to fights. 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: And just for the record, Showtime did make me sign 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: an NDA that I would not comment about any testing 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: that they provided me for COVID heading into the show. 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: But I'm ready. Let's go very good. 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: All right. With that in mind, it's time now for 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: topic number one. As I expertly slide to the right 61 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to make a room for graphics on the side of 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: the screen, here' see him pop up. There they go first, off, BC, 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: you go first on this one. As you know. UFC 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: two forty nine in the books, Justin Geichee becomes the 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: UFC Interim Lightweight Champion, allthough he threw his belt on 66 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: the ground. Immediately, Let's ask a very basic question, and 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: there's many many to get to here about the situation, 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: but first things first, based on what we've seen in 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: his career, based on what we've seen in this transformation, 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: starting with the Michael and Michael, the James Vick fight, Wow, 71 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm off today, and then culminating with the Tony Ferguson 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: victory on Saturday BC, is Justin Gaetchie the guy to beat? 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: Could be? 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Even Nerica made off? Wow. 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: That is a loaded question, Luke. He just might be. 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: And the reason is because this is just personally, I'm 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: gonna take the l I'm gonna come out and say, 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Justin Gaichee is a lot better of a fighter than 79 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: I thought he was. I wasn't sleeping on his three 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: fight evolution to come back with those first run knockouts, 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: the patients and the poise, the added wrinkles from Trevor Whitman. 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: I saw that, right. I never thought that could be 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: translated on the level where he could walk into hell 84 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: with Tony Ferguson, a guy who is ready to risk 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: it all. 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: At any time and be the you know, be the. 87 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: More poised fighter, be the stronger fighter, be the smarter fighter, 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: be everything across the board. Yes, he is a viable 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: target for Abib Normaga medof. He is better than I 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: thought he was. I'll take the L, He'll take the W, 91 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: and I loved even more Luke, our interim title debate 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: aside from last week, people seem to get a kick 93 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: out of that. People also seem to misrepresent or misinterpret 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: what I was actually saying. I absolutely love though Justin 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: Gaetchee basically doing well Magic Johnson did in nineteen ninety 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: when Sam Perkins celebrating in the locker room after they 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: go to the finals, he goes, no, we don't celebrate 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Western Conference championships on this team, right we I act 99 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: like you've been here. Wait for the real thing. I 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: love that Justin Gaechee did that. I cannot wait for 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: this fight. This guy was supposed to be left out 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: of this title mix. He found his entry, Luke. He 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: kicked the damn Dorin. There's so much I want to 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: say about Tony Ferguson because I love and respect him, 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: but this is Justin's moment and he got me. Congratulations. 106 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was such an important win. I mean, I 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: want you to think about something here very clearly right. 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, I too thought Tony Ferguson was 109 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna win. I thought it made sense if you want 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: to throw some shekels on top of Justin as a 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: betting possible choice. But you're right, we both outright picked 112 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson. We were both wrong. We both should say 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: it out loud. Nevertheless, though, I think we both took 114 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Justin Gatchie seriously, and he showed pretty clearly why he 115 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: deserves to be taken seriously. But I want to make 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: an other point about this BC, which is there's a 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: lot of really good fighters out there that we respect, 118 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: that we like, that have nice, solid wins, impressive victories 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: come from behind moments without a real signature victory, And 120 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: to this point, Justin Gaechee had some really nice wins. 121 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: The Serrooni win was pretty good, the Barboza win was fantastic, 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: getting after Vic after Vic called him the Homer Simpson 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: of MMA. That to feel pretty good. And of course 124 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: Michael Johnson was exciting, and the other fights where he 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: lost were all exciting. But to me, he didn't have 126 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that signature win. He did not beat an a class 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: opponent in a real way that made you say, I 128 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: have to completely reevaluate this guy. I tweeted it on 129 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I will reiterate it here. This is not 130 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: the Justin Gaichee that lost to Eddie Alvarez. This is 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: not the Justin Gaichee that lost to Dustin Quarrie. Eight. Now, 132 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying those guys couldn't get another win if 133 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: there was a rematch, but they would be fighting a 134 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: very very different animal. Justin Gaichee did not have to 135 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: fight in such a way BC. But we're really able 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: to tell exactly how he's going to match up with 137 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: Nrmaka Madoff. Right, he didn't do really any wrestling. A 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: couple of sprawls and some down blocking maybe you know 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: a handful of times if that and that was it. 140 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: That doesn't really tell us if he's the guy to 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: beat Nimerka Madov. But here's what he does tell us. 142 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: It tells us he is in the upper echelon of 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: that division. He is one of, in my mind, either 144 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the two or three best lightweights on Earth, maybe the 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: very best. And what intrigues me about it is not 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: only did he ascend to a level of that division 147 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of folks were maybe a 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: little bit skeptical he could when he came to the UFC. 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: But now you are excited about the possibilities. You are 150 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: wondering what's there. And what's so intriguing is that, in 151 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: many ways, BC he's the opposite of Nimica Madoff. Nimica 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: Madov wants to strike as a function of either killing 153 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: time in around, catching his breath, changing things up a 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: little bit, and then the wrestling is really how he wins. 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: That is, that is the way in which he has 156 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: plied his trade. Justin Gaischee now seven UFC fights, zero 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: submissions attempted, zero takedowns attempted. That is unheard of, especially 158 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: for this division. He is the opposite in many ways 159 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: of Nimika Madoff. We know he's an a class talent. 160 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I am sad about what's happened to Tony Ferguson. I 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: think many of us are. I respect what he did, 162 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: but the better man won that night, and I am 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: very intrigued by the possibility. 164 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want to get off Justin Gatchie at 165 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: the topic at this moment, because I do want to 166 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: double down and reinterpret. 167 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: When James Vick was calling him Homer Simpson. 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: He was. 169 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: He was Arturo Gatti, which by the way, is not 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: a bad. 171 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Thing to be called. That means you're in it for 172 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: the entertainment. You're in it to please the fans, and 173 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: regularly go out there and just show how ballsy you 174 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: are and how badass Gaichie is, you know, in that 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: discussion of the greatest history within that category. But that 176 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: doesn't get it done at the end of the day, 177 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: to become an elite. The fact that he was able 178 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: to make this evolution the way he has and raise 179 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: his ceilings so dramatically, like I have so much respect 180 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: for Tony Ferguson that Justin Gaigie and the way he 181 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: performed on Saturday Night. I mean, I'm going from this 182 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: level to here in my opinion and expectations of what 183 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Justin Geigee is credible and capable of, because I did 184 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: not ever believe I could see him put on a 185 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: performance where he never sacrifices the savage nature and the 186 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: danger he brings to a fight with being able to 187 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: keep it up up at a high technical level. Luke 188 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: his ability to balance those two together, his ability to 189 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: swing for the fences at almost every turn, yet not 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: guess out, not get too wild, and outside of that 191 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: uppercut that he was nearly stocked with to en round two, 192 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: never really put himself in a spot where he had 193 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: become reckless. 194 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,119 Speaker 3: The ability to tow that line. 195 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: I never thought it possible that Justin Gatgee could get there. 196 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: Now you asked me to start this show. Does this 197 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: make him a viable contender for Habib? I think we 198 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: just have to go. I gotta see it now because 199 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how good this guy can be. This 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: was brilliant, the ability to take smash mouth style fighting 201 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: and put it together with a smart game plan. Very 202 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: few in history Luke have been able to do that. 203 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: I love that term, and I would say this, you 204 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: know who He reminds me of a little bit. The 205 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: comparison will not make sense over its totality. It's not 206 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: a totalizing comparison, but I will say this, Sometimes somebody 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: comes along in a division and beats all the guys 208 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: that they're not supposed to beat. Now again, I don't 209 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: know if he's going to beat numberga Madoff. We have 210 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: to see it, but I like his chances. I think 211 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: he matches up certainly at a bare minimum in an 212 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: interesting way, if not outright well, and I make this 213 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: comparison to for bco Verdom. You know, ver Doom is 214 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: not considered to be the greatest heavyweight of all time, 215 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: but he went in there and submitted Fador. He's not 216 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: considered to be the greatest heavyweight of all time, but 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: he submitted the greatest submission heavyweight of all time in Nogera. Again, 218 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: not considered to be the best, but he goes in 219 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: there and takes the title from Kane Velasquez in Mexico. 220 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Here's this guy that just comes along and you have 221 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: all these greats in your mind, you have this ranking 222 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: in your mind, and one guy just wipes it all out. 223 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: And now again there's many differences, many many differences, BCEE. I 224 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: think we'd agree between the careers and the division that 225 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: he operates in Forbesia Fordoman heavyweight, between just engage and lightweight. 226 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm just here to say, you have these rankings in 227 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: your mind, Tony versus a Beab's for everything, and I'm 228 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: sad we're not gonna get to see it. I want 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: to say it one more time, but that's just not 230 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: the way the cookie crumbles in this sport. Some guys 231 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: just take the sport by the scruff of the neck 232 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: and they demand you give it to him. And on 233 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: Saturday night, Justin Gaigie was one of those guys. 234 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: And I want to like take a I want to 235 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: just remove from the table some of the opinions I 236 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: saw in the aftermath that oh, maybe Tony shouldn't have 237 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: cut weight to fifty five a couple weeks ago, or 238 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: oh maybe he shouldn't have taken this fight, Maybe he 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't have you know, he was preparing for a wrestler 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: in Habib and then he had a change. While certain 241 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: kernels of that may be true, here's where in Jay 242 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: in my air really want me to move on. I 243 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: am not ready to say anything but that that was 244 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: a ten out of ten performance from Gaichee because Luke, 245 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: I believe Ferguson came through with a ten performance of 246 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: his own, meaning you were going to have to kill 247 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: him in that cage to beat him, and thankfully Herbdeim 248 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: stopped it at really the perfect moment because Tony is 249 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: not going to go down. He took a cyborg level 250 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: of shots. He took the equivalent of like twenty to 251 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: twenty five finishing shots and not only kept coming, that's 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: one thing, but patiently was sort of in the fight 253 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: despite getting knocked around like crazy. So that only adds 254 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: to the performance of Justin Gaichie. Like I mentioned, to 255 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: never get caught into a super brawl, to never get 256 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: caught in a reckless position, and to just stay the course. 257 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: He had to beat a twelve fight win streak Tony Ferguson, 258 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: who you can take nothing away from. Yes, I had 259 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: said for a while, maybe this is too big of 260 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: a gamble. I finally understood where he was coming from. 261 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: He can't wait on Habib, he can't follow him around. 262 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: He had to make his own history. He took that 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: swing against Gaichee. He was really willing to risk it all. 264 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: He came up empty, but that only adds to what 265 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: Geechee did on Saturday night. Full respect. 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Here, last thing on this, I certainly echo everything you're saying, BC, 267 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would add here is, look, 268 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: did it help that he had to go from again 269 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: Nimberga Madov too, arguably Nimiga Madov's opposite. It couldn't have helped. 270 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Did he have to cut wait three weeks out. It 271 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: probably didn't help, but I just don't think. Yeah, I 272 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: don't have to say is that yeah? Is that the 273 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: reason he lost? Or is the reason that he lost? 274 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Is that Justin Geichee has utterly undergone a reformation of 275 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: extraordinary proportions and does not get credit for how smart 276 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: and talented of a fighter he is. Even today, BC 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, Trevor Whitman is a genius, and 278 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: he is. I would never say anything otherwise. He has 279 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: guided this young man's career to great heights. He deserves 280 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Don't take credit from Justin Gaegee either. 281 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: He is smarter than he gets credit for. He makes 282 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: great decisions and fights. He adhere to the game plan, 283 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: He was disciplined, and he won and it was no accident. 284 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: All right? With that being said, BC, well go to 285 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: you again on this one if we can. There's lots 286 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: to discuss on two forty nine or on a limited clock, 287 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: So let's go to the co main event if we can. 288 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Henry Shudo, Wow, man, what a performance by him. If 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: you told me he was gonna win, BC, I would 290 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: not have been surprised. Who could be right? He was 291 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: favored to win he goes up there and he stops 292 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: Dominic Cruz in the second round with strikes, but then 293 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: he retired. Let me ask you the question in this way. 294 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Let's say he is done BC. Let's say this is 295 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: not employed to get money, which it could be if 296 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: he's really done, he never fights again. What is Henry 297 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: Sahudo's legacy. 298 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: I almost don't want to entertain that question, Luke, because 299 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: he's coming back. 300 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: He's not done. We got to wake up. 301 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: John Jones's tweet illuminated it for some people. But the 302 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: more you dig into the comments of Suhudo afterwards, where 303 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: he said, Dana knows the price quote unquote to get 304 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: me back in there, I'll shelf that, though I'll entertain 305 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: your question. Brilliant performance, the ability to set up those 306 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: leg kicks and take away the one avenue for victory 307 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: that dom Cruz may have had, and then systematically take 308 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: him apart. He's legitimately in the discussion right now for 309 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: pound for pound best in the sport. 310 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: I don't think he's better than Habib. 311 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: I've still got John Jones right there, but he is 312 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: banging on that door. And to see what he's done 313 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: with his opportunities I'll echo it again. I did not 314 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: believe he deserved the opportunity to fight for a title 315 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: in a second weight class at that point. I didn't 316 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: think he beat Demetrius Johnson in their rematch. But with 317 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: all that said, every time they've given him the ball, 318 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: he has come up in above your expectations, knocking out 319 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Marlon Moriis, who was a killer all that we've seen, 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: absolutely hit a slam dunk. It's hard to say, is 321 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: he now what he says, the greatest combat athlete of 322 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: all time? No? 323 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: Is he in the discussion of. 324 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: That upper room that you know, people like me allowed 325 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: Demitrius Johnson and Daniel Cormier to get into in the 326 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: last few years, that Silva gsp fade. 327 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: Or you know John Jones room. You know where I'm 328 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: going here. 329 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he's there, but I'm insanely impressed 330 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: his four fight win streak. Right now, now he's on 331 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: a six fight win streak. But that specific four pack 332 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: of fights that's Mighty Mouse, de La Shaw, Ma Reich 333 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: and now Dominant Cruz. I would put up there with anyone, 334 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: with the exception of the five fight run that John 335 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Jones had beginning with the showgun fight. I'll put that 336 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: up there with or above any other four fight stretch 337 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: in UFC history. That's the respect I have for who 338 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: he is. I don't think he's a goat, though I do. 339 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: You think you have to separate the hall of very 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: good and great, But I do think he's exceptional at 341 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: thirty three. I think he's taking a very large financeechell 342 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: stand here because he sees himself as the Conna McGregor 343 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: of the small weight classes. He sees himself as the 344 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: potential first legitimate Mexican American star for the UFC. So 345 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: I think what he's trying to do is this, Luke, 346 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: it's not just about pay me. I think he's so 347 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: smart that he's saying to himself, if I stay at 348 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: bantamweight and I go through the gauntlet of Peter jhan Al, 349 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Jamain Sterling, Corey Sanhagen, Mauritis second time, on and on 350 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: and on, I may win them all. 351 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: But you know that's a lot of high risk, somewhat 352 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: low reward. Do you know what? 353 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: Retiring right now is the best thing for him? In 354 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: his mind, he's giving away the belts, he doesn't have 355 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: to defend it, and then he can come back for 356 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: the type of one offs, whether that be a featherweight 357 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: title shot down the road, or whether that just be 358 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: super fight or fight another old name to put it 359 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: on your resume. It's brilliant control of your career. Do 360 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: you know who the real MVP is? You're not gonna 361 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: want to hear this. The real MVP at UFC two 362 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: forty nine. It ain't the the COVID testers, it ain't 363 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Dana White getting the showback on the It's Ali a Delasis. 364 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: What a fricking weekend for that guy. 365 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: The way he's got in these fighters, I thought the 366 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: way so who don't handle this retirement was absolutely brilliant. 367 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure I wouldn't be opposed to saying that. He 368 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: certainly has a lot of people want to say Ali's 369 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: success is accidental. I don't think it is accidental. Again, 370 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: there may be some other criticisms to make of him, 371 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: but that he has been a very successful manager in 372 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: MMA is not one you could you could make. You 373 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge what he has done, so I would. 374 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: I would absolutely do that. But getting back to Henry 375 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Shudo here for just a moment, if I may to me, 376 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: when I think about again, if this is just some 377 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: ploy to get more money in the way you whish 378 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: you have described it very well, could be, We'll have 379 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: to see. Let's take the press the premise of the 380 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: question for what it is. So let's say he's done. 381 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: What is his legacy? First of all, it deserves to 382 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: be said, this is one of the better retirements in 383 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: MMA that I've ever seen. It happened in a strange way. 384 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: It's happening in a strange time, but to go out 385 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: on top, as you mentioned, in a four to five 386 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: win streak where four of those wins excuse me, there 387 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: are four wins, but then three of them Dillashaw on 388 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: peds mona Marish uppweight class dominant, Cruz up a weight class. 389 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: He got those three via stoppage. That's the best four 390 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: fight win streak I've seen at any weight class one 391 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: forty five and down. And as you mentioned, it's in 392 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: competition with some other ones in the higher weight classes 393 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: as well. So to me, you have this combination between 394 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: a guy really coming into his own, a great moment 395 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: to retire, where you're not going out of the cage 396 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: on your hands and knees, you're not taking fights you're 397 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: not supposed to take You're not in all this kind 398 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: of physical and financial peril, and it feels too soon, 399 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: which tells you. In many ways it could arguably be 400 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: construed as being right on time. But the thing that 401 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: sits out for me is when I think about this, 402 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: you're right there. He was going to get an aldo, 403 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: he was going to get a cruise, and then after 404 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: that he was going to have to face the buzz 405 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: saws of the Yawns and the sterlings and the Sandhagens. 406 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: And there's just not a lot of money in that. 407 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: We talked about it before. You want to be mad 408 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: at Henry Sejudo for following the very incentives the UFC 409 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: sets out for champions when they're looking for big fights. 410 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: On how they make money. They make money based on celebrity. 411 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: They don't make money based on challenge. Per Se. You 412 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: just have to acknowledge he's doing what the UFC is 413 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: setting him out to do. I'll just say this, he 414 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: was really coming to in his own as a fighter. 415 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: I agree he deserves to be ranked at the top 416 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: of the pound for pound or not at the top, 417 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: but certainly in that space, I really wonder what he's 418 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: capable of a world class athlete like this, And remember 419 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: he didn't beat Dillashaw wrestling, Marie. There was a little 420 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: bit of the sort of you know, understanding these positions 421 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: to help him, and there was good down blocking in 422 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: this one as well. I think he had one minor 423 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: takedown on Cruise, but he won it based on these 424 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: other skills he had developed. I know he had done 425 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: some boxing prior to wrestling, but you know, a fuller 426 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: array of kickboxing at this point. With the lekicks as 427 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: you saw, he could be something special if he keeps going. 428 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he already is, but I mean 429 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: really really special. I really wonder now more. I don't 430 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: think he could beat Volkanovsky, but I got to tell you, 431 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: my interest in seeing the fight went up a little bit. 432 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: He's a world class athlete. I am saddened. I am 433 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: very honestly, I'll say this, I'm very sad about what 434 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: happened to Tony. But Tony was able to do something 435 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: really special, and so was Henry. But Henry feels like 436 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: he's cutting it short before we could see the full 437 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: breadth and depth of it. Tony's thirty six, thirty seven. 438 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: It just kind of kills me a little bit. 439 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: You know, I want to ask you this, if you 440 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: believe what I just said about Suhudo's stretch strategy right now, 441 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: in terms of matchmaking, what are the potential super fights 442 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: that could interest you at lightweight and I'm sorry, at 443 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: below what lightweight? 444 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: In the first half of the small weight classes. 445 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: If Suhudo is going to essentially try to become a 446 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: contract killer and only take the biggest fish available for 447 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: big money, are there those type of fights that interest you? 448 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: Honestly, they're at one forty five at this point, because 449 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: one thirty five if you're talking about just great fights 450 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: with great talents, it's such an interesting, talent rich, youth 451 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: driven division. But these guys just having had a chance 452 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: to assert themselves. And the one bad thing for bans 453 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: Someway We've discussed a million times now, it's always better 454 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: when one fighter takes the title from another, when one 455 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: champion has to just gift it back. It makes that 456 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: transference of celebrity kind of heart And I'll say this 457 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: bec you know what's kind of sad also about Suhudo 458 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: is that I remember when he first finished the Olympics 459 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: and there were rumors of him getting into starting MMA, 460 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: and he was not doing well at first. He had 461 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: some weight cut issues, of course, as we saw, and 462 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: he had wins, but they were real lackluster and he 463 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: wasn't training with the right people and blah blah blah. 464 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Number one, he ironed all that out, but the fact 465 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: that he got labeled and did it to himself is 466 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: the king of cringe. When to me, he could have 467 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: been the guy who picked up the torch from Kane 468 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Velasquez to really draw in those Latino American fans, to 469 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: really bring them out. If you had not seen UFC 470 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: one twenty one and you look in the audience and 471 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: you just see who's there, and it was a different complexion. 472 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: He could have been that guy. He still could be 473 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: that guy if he finds a way. Instead, he became 474 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: in terms of this inside the MMA bubble, this sort 475 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: of like the side show stuff, which really detracts from 476 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: what a fantastic talent he actually was. 477 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, very comparable to me creating the have you seen 478 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: this shit segment when other people are going, oh, that 479 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: guy can actually pull off a real interview too. He's 480 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: probably the demise of my career list. But thanks for 481 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: being part of it. 482 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm here to do, buddy, That's what I'm 483 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: here to do. All right. We go to now the 484 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: other fight on the main card that was breathtaking in 485 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: its own way, although if you were holding your breath, 486 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: you didn't have to hold it for very long. BC 487 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: Francis Andnghan, who scores an eighteen second KO in the 488 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: very first round over Jarzeno rosenstrike rosenstroke. However you want 489 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: to say it, what the hell is he supposed to 490 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: do now that the division is on ice. The good 491 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: news BC is that Cormier saying I'll fight him if 492 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: it's if they strip Steepe. But I don't think they 493 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: want to strip a first responder in the middle of 494 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: a pandemic who is saying I'm willing to fight. I 495 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: just need to be in a place where, Hello, the 496 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: gym is open. BC. I know you don't want to 497 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: revisit it, but I think it's time to revisit it. Look, 498 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: the biggest reason to have granted an interim title shot 499 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: between and Gondu and Roses Struger. Hear me out now, 500 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: I didn't mind at all what Justin Gagee said and 501 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: did when he threw the belt Off. It's not because 502 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: I think that the guy should be considered right alongside 503 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Numbergam made Off. It's not that. What I really cared 504 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: about is just getting these guys more money, and justin 505 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: Gaegee when he fights Numbergam, Madeoff is going to get 506 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: more money Big Francis is not. To me, that's terribly 507 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: unfair and a missed opportunity. But at this point, dude, 508 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: he had an eighteen second fight. Now, I know he 509 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: had a long camp. Are we really gonna wait until 510 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: the fall to get this guy back out here? They 511 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: have some very hard decisions to make now, and to 512 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know what the answer is. Because 513 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: if you'd strip steep A, that is terrible press. But 514 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: you could do it, and you could have a fight 515 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: with Cormier. That's an option, but it has really bad PR. 516 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Or you could have him fight Derek Lewis again, which 517 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: is risky and could blow up everything he's going for 518 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: because I would think you would agree he's earned a 519 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: title shot. I don't know how much appetitie there is 520 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: on either guy's end for that, though, which could make 521 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: that hard to make. To me, if you had given 522 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: this guy a belt I think it would have made 523 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: him more patient to sit around, and if he had 524 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: to defend it, he could have potentially gotten more money 525 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: along the way. To me, I missed opportunity. 526 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a hard time even defending my own argument. Now, 527 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: I stand by my own argument that just littering interim 528 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: belts devalues the overall title, and I do stand by that, like, yeah, 529 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: I want these guys to get paid. I don't want 530 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: to come at the expense of that. I think UFC 531 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: can be much more creative in how they figure out 532 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: the payment structure. But we do have a problem right 533 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: now because if they just run him against Derek Lewis 534 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: and put an interim title that state. I mean, again, 535 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: it's kind of cheesy, like Derek Lewis doesn't necessarily even 536 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: deserve an interim title opportunity. 537 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: The only one who might is Cormier. And if you're Cornier. 538 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: He said it best on the broadcast on Saturday. He said, 539 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: I want to see Francis and Gang who fight for 540 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: a title more than anybody. I just don't want it 541 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: to see it against me. Now, of course he laughed 542 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: and then rightfully said, you know, of course I'd fight 543 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: him right. I don't think he'd fight him for an 544 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: interim title. So really the best thing that needs to 545 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: happen is Stepe get into a camp right now, Like 546 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: the Ohio State Commission just basically says, okay, Steepey's gym 547 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: can open up, and we basically start the process of 548 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: steep a DC three. Which can we like realize how 549 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: historic that fight actually is. I feel like we keep 550 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: talking about it as an afterthought. Step Pey himself is 551 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: talking about it as an afterthought. The winner of that's 552 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: the greatest heavyweight and UFC history and really right up 553 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: there with Fade or so can we give that fight 554 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: the potential respect it deserves. I know it's hard when 555 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: when Frank the Tank is just knocking fools out this 556 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: forefight knockout streak, which is the Blades rematch in like 557 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: twenty seconds JDS Kane Velaskaz and now this all four 558 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: and seventy one seconds or less. It was so freaking 559 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: scary in like a in like a real organic way. 560 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: Like remember like the first time you watch pro wrestling 561 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: as a kid and you watch like a evil he 562 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: and you're like it's coming through the screen. You're like, 563 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, like, if I watch this more, he 564 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: might kick my ass. It's the only time I've seen 565 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: that kind of feeling in regular fights. Is the original 566 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: build of Mike Tyson as heavyweight champion, where you're like, 567 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: this guy is so crazy he could kill anybody. That's 568 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: seven punch combination. That and Ghanu just basically went into 569 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: and just figured, you know what, one of these is 570 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: gonna knock him out. I mean, that's certainly not like 571 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: traditional orthodox mma, but the fact that he's rebuilt himself 572 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: mentally and sort of gets the business now and gets 573 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: his role and understands what he has to do to 574 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: be his very best. He is such a unique attraction 575 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: and how is anybody going to stand up against that? Yeah, 576 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: I watched Stepe go five rounds and take a big 577 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: shot early and then expose him. I do not think 578 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: the rematch will look like that, and I can't wait 579 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: to see and Ganu get that shot. But I don't 580 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: want to ruin what we have now. So here's my 581 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: pitch and Ghanu, I know you only needed twenty seconds 582 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: to give Rosenstrich his first l Stay in the gym 583 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: and sit tight, don't take any fight. 584 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: But the real thing because that's what's supposed to happen. 585 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: He reminds me in many ways. And I did a 586 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: live show on my YouTube channel after the fight, and 587 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 1: folks were asking me about comparisons, and I didn't think 588 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: of it until one of my viewers brought it up. 589 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: So I'll give them credit. I forget their name, but 590 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: they're asking, is he liked Deontay Wilder? And in some senses, yes, right, 591 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same Obviously, he's speaking in a 592 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: second language, so I'm telling you that's very difficult to do. 593 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I give him lots of credit for how well he 594 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: has already done in the second language and how much 595 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: better he gets day over day, first of all. But 596 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: second of all, like Deontae is sort of known as 597 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: having all these other weaknesses, but the bomb. And to 598 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: be clear, in Gon who has a lot of weaknesses 599 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: by versus of the fact he's just not been doing 600 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: this very long, and he also has the bomb. But 601 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: his bomb, I mean, with the smaller gloves, it just 602 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: seems to have an impact. More quickly, you had mentioned 603 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: the four WHI wins there. I think Mike Bond ofm 604 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: MMA Junkie Head said, if you add them all up. 605 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: It's just two minutes and forty five seconds. Like, dude, 606 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: that is shocking. That is a shocking amount of power 607 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: translated into fighting efficiency. I talked to people in his camp. 608 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: They told me that was the wrong combination. He was 609 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: supposed to finish it with a kick and instead just 610 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: decided to throw a left hook on the go, and 611 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: it still had that kind of an impact. He just 612 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: improvised in the moment and it still laid this guy 613 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: out completely, who, by the way, had nearly eighty kickboxing fights. 614 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: It is to me it's like he's got the power 615 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: of Wilder. He doesn't have that American bomb bast But 616 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I think that they were just not There's an opportunity 617 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: if they can find a way, they can find a 618 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: way ABC to get this guy busy. He is more 619 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: marketable than I think a lot of folks, if not 620 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: necessarily realize that we've just produced to this point. There's 621 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: more to this story here, and everyone loves a hard 622 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: scrabble story. They're kind of that he has coming from Cameroon, 623 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: real hardcore dirt poverty, and to translate what he's translated 624 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: into his coaches tell me, dude, you've not seen it. 625 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: His ground game has gotten so much better, his cardio 626 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: is better. He can go five rounds. They're telling me 627 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: he's requesting five rounds in the gym instead of three, 628 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: just to make sure that he's on point. Doesn't really 629 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: matter if you knock a guy out eighteen seconds. All 630 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: my point is on this one is there's no easy answer. 631 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't just say if they have to keep them 632 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: on ice until the winner of DC versus steep A, 633 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: that is a very suboptimal outcome given what he's ready 634 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: for and how and how I think he's a thirty 635 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: four at this point. It's not not a great time 636 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: for him. 637 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: But an interim title about against an opponent who doesn't 638 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: deserve an interim title opportunity, and it's already a fake title. 639 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: That's suboptimal. But I think that loss he had, the 640 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: two losses back to back step A and Lewis, we're 641 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: the absolute greatest thing that could happen to him. 642 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: He is so mentally where he needs to be. 643 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: Some people said, how could he not call out Steepe afterwards? 644 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: You know, I thought he just handled it perfectly because 645 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: he handled it who he is. 646 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: He's basically like, I. 647 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: Can't control UFC's title system and their opportunities. I'm just 648 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: basically gonna keep knocking fools out. So I love that 649 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: you know you mentioned his heart Scrabbles story. Don't forget 650 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 2: he was homeless too in Paris, living out of his 651 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: car when he first moved there and tried to chase 652 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: this MMA dream. All he needs is a snaggletooth, and 653 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: he's basically jewel. We love this type of story, all right, hey, 654 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: And also, and now, while we're here in the nineties, 655 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty. I love that our producer Jay, who's 656 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: in my ear telling me to get to the next topic. 657 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: I love that he could have all this great technology 658 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: sent to my house and yours, Luke, and we can 659 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: make this show, by the way, during this quarantine, the 660 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: best produced show there is in the game, and it 661 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: is Okay, it's way better than our competitors. Jay cannot 662 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: produce the nineties counter though. 663 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: No he's not. He's very, very very bad at that. 664 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Jay's bad in most things unless you want to talk 665 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: about unintentionally bad cover band imitations, and then he's all 666 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: over it. He's got that unlock. Okay, with that, it 667 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: takes us to the next topic. BC, Let's get to 668 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: it now. UFC two forty nine. We knew on paper 669 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: it was a great card going in. Certainly we can 670 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: both say UFC two forty nine as an event delivered. 671 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: But it wasn't all good news. There was some bad 672 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: news as well. Jacquaray and two of his cornermen tested 673 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: positive with the coronavirus. They had to be well the 674 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: fight with your Rye Hall and Jackaray got removed from 675 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: the card, and there was a lot of bad news 676 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: that came out on Friday, and a lot of questions 677 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: that remain. By the way, a ton of press both 678 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: on the positive side for the UFC about the event, 679 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Chris Mannix over at Sports Illustrated giving it glowing remarks, 680 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: and then also I saw Bloomberg writing about it negatively. 681 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: I saw the New York Times writing about it negatively. 682 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: I saw the Washington Post writing about it negatively. So 683 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a mixed bag. Let me go 684 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: to you first on this one, BC. Over All the weekend, 685 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: from the jacquarat news to the afterglow of the fight, 686 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: what kind of response do you have to everything? What 687 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: grade would you give the UFC's general effort here. 688 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: Effort wise and success rate. I give it right about 689 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: a C plus B minus because I do give Dana 690 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: White and UFC a ton of credit for pulling this 691 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: card off and constantly fighting yes, not gonna dig it 692 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: all back up. There were times it was completely reckless, 693 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: but joining with the State Commission doing it the right way, 694 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: paying a lot of money, which I know Dana Bragg's 695 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: about that a lot to get people off his back. 696 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: But it's true they set up seemingly the right structure 697 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: and protocols to make this happened. In the end, it 698 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: wasn't perfect that system is set up. It's kind of 699 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: hard to be perfect. That this is the unknown, it's unprecedented, 700 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: I hope, and I think I've seen, based on Aeriel 701 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Hawani's subsequent reporting on Twitter, that the UFC learned from 702 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: this jockra situation, which hopefully ends up being just a 703 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: great scare. And what I mean by that is Jockarrey 704 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: disclosed to them ahead of time that he had been 705 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: in contact with a family member who had COVID and 706 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: to see him allowed to kind of just you know, 707 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: roam that hotel and you saw it, of course on 708 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Fabricio over Doom's Instagram live feed. I know he's wearing 709 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: a mask and glove, but he's within one foot of everybody. 710 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: Given everybody the fist pump and all that, that seemed 711 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: reckless when UFC hadn't yet received the results of his test. 712 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: So then they find out him and his team I 713 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: have the COVID they with asymptomatic. They put them in 714 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: their own sequestering and suddenly that pressure release comes out 715 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: and says, we did all the right protocol. Well you 716 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: really didn't. And I'm not here necessarily to damn them 717 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: for that. I'm just saying I hope that they learn 718 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: from that moment they tighten things up even more because 719 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: somebody had to be first. There's no perfect game plan 720 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: to do this. I am here to tell you I'm 721 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: happy what UFC did. They pulled this card off. I 722 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: was insanely entertained, just from a straight up entertainment standpoint. 723 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Not only did it great to feel great to have 724 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: this card back, the card was freaking awesome. And it's 725 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: my job, so I love getting an opportunity to do 726 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: my job. 727 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: But with all that said, they are one. 728 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: Bad COVID disaster in Black Eye away from it all 729 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: falling apart. So hopefully the Jockaray situation is just a 730 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: big scare in the end, Luke, the other half of 731 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: it is why my grade for them comes down pretty 732 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: substantially at the end of the day, Luke, I don't 733 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: read fighter contracts. I don't know what's normal them putting 734 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: some kind of clause in a contract that says a 735 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: fighter can't say something that's a lie about the COVID 736 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: testing or they get fined. That to me, that's between 737 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: Fighter and UFC. I almost don't care about it. That's 738 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: their business. But to have members of the media sign 739 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: things that don't just say we're not liable if you 740 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: get sick. I understand that we're in unprecedented situations. Right 741 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: you use the restroom at the Vice Star Veterans Memorial 742 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: Arena and you catch a bad thing. I understand you 743 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: can't sue UFC. But if there's any element in that 744 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: contract which the media members were forced to sign and 745 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: they did that says they could be fined for certain 746 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: public comments against UFC's handling of this, this is the 747 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: beginning of communism. This is unacceptable, and I heard Dana 748 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: White's reaction to it. At the press conference in his 749 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: interview with Kevin Ali of Yahoo, and you know, he 750 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: sort of just tried to downplay so this is normal. 751 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: We've seen subsequently reporting from people like John Nash on 752 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: Twitter who have sort of countered that this is going 753 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: too far when you're doing things that but even on 754 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: the surface, give the impression that you're muzzling people like 755 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: us whose jobs are to report on things. That's where 756 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is fishy, and I don't like the 757 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: direction of it. 758 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. If I go to cover a 759 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: UFC event and they grant a credential and somehow through 760 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: the course of it, with them taking their safety precautions 761 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: and everything else involved, and I somehow still get COVID nineteen, 762 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: that's a risk I took. I don't really have any 763 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: issue with saying I'm not going to sue you or 764 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, because I trust them to 765 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: not be dangerously negligent. I trust them to do at 766 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: least some kind of a good job. And if it 767 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: just happens when I'm out there, I either got in 768 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: a car or got in a bus, or got in 769 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: a train or got on a plane, knowing the risk 770 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: that I was potentially undertaking. I don't have an issue 771 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: with that. I have a major issue with the other 772 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: non disparagement clause. And I know Dana White afterward he 773 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: was reacting to a guy who was, let's be honest, 774 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: technically sort of our boss. I guess he's our boss, Yes, 775 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: Steven Espinosa, Obscure of Showtime. And he was saying that 776 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: the disparagement clause only says if you say untrue. That 777 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: is absolutely not an accurate depiction of what non disparagement 778 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: clauses entail. It means anything that could be insulting. In fact, 779 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot of non disparasment clauses I spoke to many 780 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: lawyers over the weekend about this. In contract law, a 781 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of non diisparashment clauses will be they'll specify exactly 782 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: what disparagement entails. This one does a little bit of that, 783 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: but it leaves things so open ended. It could be 784 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: just about anything. And they say, Dana Whites saying, well, 785 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: only if you report things that aren't facts. Okay, if 786 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: I said that they weren't doing COVID testing, that would 787 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: clearly be not factual, right, But what if I said 788 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: their COVID testing isn't good. Well, now we're getting to 789 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: a point where we're having to interpret what that means. 790 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that false? That's a very difficult 791 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: question to actually kind of answer. And to me, it's 792 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: just an even if they're not even going to enforce it, 793 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: it's just a chilling message to send to media. And 794 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: I want to forgive the media here a little bit, 795 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: because I know how the game works. Their employers are 796 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: going to say, listen, it's mma, we don't really care 797 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: about journalistic standards. Just go sign the thing and then 798 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: tape the scrum and do what you gotta do. I 799 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: get it to do. They're between a rock and a 800 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: hard place, and I understand that, and I totally get that. 801 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the UFC, if they want 802 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: to say media, come cover us COVID, you're on your own. Okay, 803 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: I get it. But if we are now being dictated 804 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: to or at least having designed documents around the type 805 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: of coverage we provide, that's pr I mean, that's not 806 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: any kind of real, honest media. It's not what we're 807 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: here for. It's not what we're aiming to do. Okay. 808 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: With that said, grading the overall weekend, I'm going to 809 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: give them a b BC. I'm gonna give them a bee. 810 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I thought the event 811 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: in terms of its production, the tweets on the screen 812 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: got a little much, but I thought the card was great. 813 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: I thought the production was phenomenal. I thought everyone there, 814 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: from the commentary crew to the everything in between, I 815 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: thought they did a great job with it. It was 816 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: a home run event in terms of just the fights themselves, 817 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: what they produced, and how that part of it was handled. 818 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: In terms of the COVID situation was I don't want 819 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: to go crazy on them. I'll just say this, I 820 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: think we could all agree on something. If you're the 821 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: first to do something BC, you're gonna learn by doing so. 822 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: We should allow a degree a degree of leniency with 823 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: the UFC to say, we know, no matter how good 824 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: they try, how hard they try the first time, we know, 825 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: that's not what the policy is going to look like. 826 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: Six months down the road, they're going to figure out 827 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: what works, what doesn't, what's necessary, and what's not. There. 828 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: The disparagement clauses kind of tell you they were trying 829 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: to do a little bit of CYA. But again, we've 830 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: already covered that. To me, here's the problem. When they 831 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: say the system worked, they're not wrong, which is the 832 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: whole idea they had was screen everybody up front, contain it, 833 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: take them to the fights, and then let them be. 834 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: We can control everything in that environment. If that's what 835 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: you're designed to do as an idea, that's not bad. 836 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: The problem is they haven't really filled in the blanks, 837 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: which is okay, let's say somebody tests positive on Thursday. 838 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: Let's say somebody tests positive on Friday. I know they 839 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: sent out a new note to fighters being like, hey, 840 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: have you had any symptoms before you show up? Fighters 841 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: are going to have it incentive to lie about that, 842 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: like they do everything, because if they don't lie about it, 843 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: they don't get to fight. If they don't get to fight, 844 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: they don't get paid. We know how many times they 845 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: don't disclose having the flu, having twisted ankles, broken bones, 846 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: even just so they can get to go and fight. 847 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: So to me, that's not much of an effective screen. 848 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is what that system that they've built 849 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: in needs is for them to ask themselves the question, 850 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: what happens if something breaks down at every individual stage? Afterwards? Now, 851 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: how do we handle it because their entire system is 852 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: built with front loading security and then just maintenance all 853 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: the way through. I don't think that's enough. I don't 854 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: think that's going to carry them through. They need to 855 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: have other pieces where if someone hits the fire alarm 856 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: halfway through a Friday, they've got other mechanisms in place 857 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: to contain that individual fire while keeping everybody else safe. 858 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: So they're going to learn by doing, but there's definitely 859 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: room for improvement. 860 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to close on this, it was unique to 861 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: have the empty arena with the commentary being heard by 862 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: the judges by the fighters. It's going to change for 863 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: as long as this lasts. Kind of how things are done. 864 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: Fighters openly said, I heard DC giving advice on how 865 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: I could win this fighting criticism, and they took it. 866 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: We've really never seen anything like that at the pro 867 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 2: elite level. I'm not worried what it does to judges. 868 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: It's just interesting. I think it adds another layer of entertainment. 869 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: I don't know how they fixed that unless they put 870 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: them in some kind of booth above the arena, but 871 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: this is part of They took a chance to put 872 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: this card out. It was a huge success. Don't just 873 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 2: don't mute your peeps, all right, all right, just don't mute, 874 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: Just don't. 875 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: Make and continue to learn about your COVID policy or 876 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: your protocol and continue to improve it. Okay, Last, but 877 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: not least, BC that we already said it. Two forty 878 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: nine had a ton of great fights, a ton of 879 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: important ones. We've talked about Big Francis, We've talked about 880 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: Henry Shudo, We've talked about Justin Gaetchee. Who have we 881 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: not talked about? BC? Who is another standout performer in 882 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: your mind that deserves to be shouted out on today's broadcast? Sir, 883 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: give them a hand. 884 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 2: I want to say half points. Half point to Donald Serni. 885 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: I predicted he get knocked out. This would be his 886 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: fourth consecutive loss. He loses a spirited, competitive rematch with 887 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: Anthony Pettis. It was really great match making the preliminary card, 888 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: main event. Donald Serni dialed back in with the pressure 889 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: off and really turned back the clock. That looked like 890 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: Donald Serni against Eddie Alvarez a few years back, with 891 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: a game plan, with toughness. Those two just came out 892 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: there on like two and a half weeks of a 893 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: camp and just banged. It was fun to see. I 894 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: was happy for Donald Seroni because you had a fear 895 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: he was entering Chuck Lidell territory during the twilight of 896 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: his career. The other thing is, you know, it should 897 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: have been the fight of the night gaits ge In 898 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: Ferguson ended up getting the nod. That was a savage fight. 899 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: It was a lot at stake. It wasn't the fight 900 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: of the night. Shout out to Vicente, Luke and Nico Price. 901 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: It got buried in the undercard. There were no fans 902 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: in the arena to watch it. But Luke, that rematch 903 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: between them, they put on an absolute war. I knew 904 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: who Nico Price was, I'd seen him fight before. I 905 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: wasn't really woke to the character that I was dealing with. 906 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: This guy's an absolute psychopath in every possible way that 907 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: I love Luke. You got to follow him now every 908 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: fight the rest of his career, if you weren't already. 909 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: These guys were insanely entertaining and in some ways they 910 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: kind of set the tone for the fun that would 911 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: come the rest of the evening. 912 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean to think that this fight was on the undercard. 913 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: If this fight had taken place ten years ago, or 914 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: even let's say fifteen two thousand and six or so 915 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: to fourteen years ago, they would call that one of 916 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: the all time classics. We just take it as prelim card, 917 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: not filler exactly, but you know, minor attraction. That's how 918 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: good EMMA fighting has gotten. An agree Nico Price an 919 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: incredible talent. Vicente Luke had a rough fight against wonder Boy, 920 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: came back and rebounded against a ready Nico Price who 921 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: had already beaten before. I take my hat off to 922 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: both gentlemen, but the gentleman I want to shout out 923 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: on this card if I MAYBC. Calvin Cater wow man. 924 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: I talked to him about two weeks ago to see 925 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: how he was doing. Like all these fighters, they were 926 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: trying to do their best with a stay at home 927 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: shelter in place, whatever kind of orders that were there. 928 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out the best way to train. 929 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: He was supposed to fight at UFC two forty eight, 930 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: and then that got delay to two forty nine, and 931 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: two forty nine got delayed till May ninth. He had 932 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: what ended up as a fifteen or sixteen week camp 933 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: for this and he still did not have burnout. Took 934 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to get going, but not 935 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: as much as usual, and came out there and Jeremy Stevens, 936 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: who I know had missed way, but Jeremy Stevens looked 937 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: locked on and dialed in from the word going this 938 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: one and was landing good shots. But Calvin Cater is 939 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: so talented, he is so smart. He has some of 940 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: the best boxing in all of the UFC, irrespective of division. 941 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: And I absolutely mean the words that I'm saying right now. 942 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: And then to trick him up with that Carlos Condit 943 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: versus Thiago Alves where it looks like we're in punching range, 944 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: exchanging hooks, and then I go to the elbow. That 945 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: was magnificent BC. Jeremy Stevens, I give him credit, dude, 946 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: Guys got wins and he's got losses. Fight He's fought 947 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: the best of his generation, and I want to make 948 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: sure we say that. But Calvin Cater is absolutely a 949 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: contender at one hundred and forty five pounds. Lookout, yeah, 950 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: your boy. 951 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan called Cater at the dark horse of the 952 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: division coming in, and I think that woke a lot 953 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: of people. 954 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 4: Up. 955 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 2: Shout out to Jeremy Stevens is Tan By the way, Luke, 956 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go as far as saying that's the second 957 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: best ten in UFC history, behind that time Stefan Bonner 958 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: reyted up to faced Anderson Silva and got the six 959 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 2: pack ab shout out to that. Well done. 960 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. That takes us now, BC to 961 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: where you donks out there get to ask us questions. 962 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: It's time now for dms from donks as we wait 963 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: for the two second delay. 964 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, Jay Giannis, we got the jam. 965 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: Sleep Jay is a sleep at the fucking wheel. There 966 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: we go. 967 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Jay's back watching videos of that boy band No Escape. 968 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh well, they didn't run the animation, did you, Jay, 969 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: She didn't run the animation, did you? That was awesome? Well, 970 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: this show is great, PC, I appreciate it. All right, 971 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: let's get to the first question, because Jay apparently cat 972 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: got your tongue. Boy, Jay's got a lot to say 973 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: when things are going right things are going wrong. Have 974 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: you noticed that he gets quiet as a church mouse 975 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: in the year? All right, BC, first question for you. 976 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: This comes to us from Ginger Beard Tommy. All right, 977 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see taking recency bias into account. 978 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: Which is the biggest MMA fight that got away A 979 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: Lesler versus Fador, B, Saint Pierre versus Silva, or C. 980 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: Kabi versus Tony. That's a tough question. 981 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick b Luke because commercial always seems to 982 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: matter more than critical in terms of when we look 983 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: back and look Saint Pierre Versus Silva commercially would have 984 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: been absolutely massive had it come at the end of 985 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: their respective runs as the absolute elites of their own divisions. 986 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: I think also there were some elements that, you know, 987 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 2: you could have titled that as like, who's the greatest 988 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: fighter of all time? We're gonna find out in that 989 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: fight Now wouldn't have been true based on that matchup, 990 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: But although the other two are more important fights that 991 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: we needed to see for certain hierarchies, this would have 992 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: been the most fun and would have drawn the most 993 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: pay per view bys of the three of them. 994 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I think that's generally correct. Kabe 995 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: versus Tony is you know, HiT's weird. We see. Like 996 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: I said, I'm sad about it, but I don't think 997 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: it's fully set in what we lost, you know, because 998 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: let me just say this. The problem for Tony is 999 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: that he, like Lesner, Fador just kind of never materialized 1000 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: and they kind of just went on with their lives 1001 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: in different ways. Obviously he went to strike force for Fador, 1002 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: but with this one, Tony lost at this moment that 1003 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: Justin is ascending and the uniqueness of his ascension is 1004 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: kind of not shadowing and drowning out the loss of 1005 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: Kabeb Tony. But I mean maybe it is a little 1006 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: bit for me because I'm so focused on how well 1007 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: he's doing. I haven't had time to process that loss. 1008 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: But I would generally agree with you, by Bee, you 1009 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: want to say something. 1010 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say to add onto the heartbreaking nature, 1011 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: like I really believe, like, look, I don't know if 1012 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: just engage you can be Habib right, like I said, 1013 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: the ceilings now, I can't put a limit to it. 1014 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 2: I genuinely in my heart believe that outside of like 1015 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: a perfect punch from McGregor when he's at his very prime, 1016 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 2: I believe Tony Ferguson was the only lightweight capable of, 1017 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, outside of a fluke, giving Habib a loss 1018 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 2: during this lightweight run. So it is like we gotta 1019 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: take time to mourn this right five times they tried 1020 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 2: to do it. Maybe we get it in some form 1021 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 2: of aftermarket version, but it will never be the same. 1022 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: Tony Ferguson's twelve flight win streak was absolutely insane. I 1023 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: know it's not all killer on that, but to be 1024 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: able to keep that together, to be able to survive 1025 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: the injury that he had and come back in six 1026 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 2: months and do no physical therapy and just be crazy. 1027 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the guys remember that time at that at 1028 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 2: that public way in he ran off the stage and 1029 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 2: gave you like this like a crystal like some kind 1030 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: of like uh. 1031 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: It was it was a it was a grip trainer. 1032 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was some kind of like kabul 1033 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 2: like spiritual like black magic thing. 1034 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: No, it was just training grip. That's it. 1035 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Sorry, well yeah, it. 1036 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: Just looked cool, all right. From Pulse Reloaded. Question for 1037 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: Luke and Bryan is is prime Anthony Rumble Johnson versus 1038 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: current Francis in a street fight? Who wins? And would 1039 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: someone die? That's a morbid question. Jesus. 1040 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: See first, I don't think anyone would die, but that's 1041 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: I mean, that's an absolutely insafe fight. 1042 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: By the way, rumble wants that smoke. 1043 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 2: You know, I talked to him at the last UFC 1044 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: Vegas card when they did that. Ali Abdelazi's media day 1045 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: Rumbles is still getting ready to come back at either 1046 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 2: two of five and Heavy and that's a name, excuse me, 1047 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 2: on his short list. They're along with John Jones, along 1048 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 2: with you know, any of the super elites, so we 1049 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: may see that. Yeah, I have no idea what would 1050 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: happen on there. I even thought what was great about 1051 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 2: the Anganu Rosenstrug fight on paper is I didn't know 1052 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: what that was gonna look like. 1053 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, if you asked me, who was gonna win? 1054 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: And gan Wu had better experience and maybe was a 1055 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: more well rounded finisher in terms of his abilities. But uh, 1056 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: that's it. That's oh man. I mean that's like, can 1057 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 2: we take the best porn start like the seventies and 1058 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 2: of the nineties and put them together in like a 1059 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 2: mythical bedroom in their primes? Right Luke or that? 1060 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: So that's like, so I won't say what they're famous for, 1061 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: but if you've watched as much pornography as me, you'll 1062 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: get this. That's like Sylvia Saint versus Asa Akira, right. 1063 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: Like Kobe Bryant and Kobe Tye at of Colorado Too 1064 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: soon soon. 1065 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I'd say if they ever fought in 1066 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: the street fight. Number one, better not be in an 1067 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: actual street like, please fight on grass, right so someone's 1068 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: head doesn't bounce off the pavement. Number one. Number two, 1069 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: I give the speed edge to Rumble. But even then, 1070 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that hits like Francis Dude. I 1071 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: just well, like, he's another what do you you you 1072 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: cover boxing? What do you make of him as the 1073 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder of this heavyweight division? 1074 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1075 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 3: No, the comparison is great. 1076 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: We're one punch in any kind of punch, even kind 1077 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: of gradually, you know, grazing, somebody can finish them. I 1078 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 2: want to just say this about that seven punch wacky 1079 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 2: combination that he ran at Rosenstreak with and basically made 1080 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 2: him go like this, that's so frickin un orthodox, Luke, 1081 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: and I swear if you do that against any elite fighter, 1082 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: you may cause them to freeze in headlights and get 1083 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: him out of there. 1084 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 3: Like, can you game plan for that? 1085 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 2: A guy that big just rushing at you with helicopters? 1086 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you either have to get out 1087 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 1: of the way or you got to be like DC, 1088 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: where you get underneath it and try to pick him 1089 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: up and drop him. Because I think if you like, 1090 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: here's what Roses Struck tried to do. If you go 1091 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: back and you watch the tape, he was leg kicking 1092 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: him and actually connecting with punches as he was backing 1093 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: up like he did. I give credit to old Jay Rzenho. 1094 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: Dude he was. He might be a crazy bastard, but 1095 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: he's a brave one, right. I mean, the dude had wavos. 1096 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 1: He was trying to meet fire with fire, and maybe 1097 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: that works in kickboxing to a better degree. But with 1098 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: those little gloves and big Francis just barreling down on you, 1099 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: it works for about eighteen seconds, is the the answer? 1100 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: That's how. 1101 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: No, you're right, and let me settle the spirit of 1102 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 3: this question. 1103 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 2: I think Anthony Rumble Johnson hits harder with one perfect shot, 1104 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 2: but I think Francis and Gan who can knock you 1105 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 2: cold with more types of shots. 1106 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that's okay, all right. Next we have Alexander 1107 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: z Shy shesh, she sheesh. What is Yeah? I'm not 1108 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: sure what is your preferred m m a crowd, a 1109 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: drunk but energetic B Japanese c none BC. 1110 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with drunk but energetic. 1111 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 3: I'm done with. 1112 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: Give me the just bleed guy. Give me all those 1113 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 2: people who think they're dressed up really nice, but really 1114 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: they have an affliction T shirt under their tight dress 1115 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 2: shirt and and the and the stylist jeans with the 1116 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 2: B dazzled ass patch. Give me those people who feel 1117 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 2: like they're classy, because I mean, look, I've been in 1118 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 2: a lot of arenas for pro wrestling, MMA and boxing 1119 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: at the highest level. UFC's in arena experience is unlike anything. 1120 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: And certainly that's because they know how to play the 1121 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 2: right song at the right time and have the video 1122 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 2: screens placed properly. But it's also because that crowd comes 1123 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: ready to thirst for violence from the opening second. It's 1124 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: not a late arriving celebrity crowd like my brethren in boxing. 1125 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: It is a we are here to see people you know, 1126 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: potentially die in that cage in front of me, and 1127 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't be happier crowd. And that's that's the reality 1128 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: of it. That's the truth. Look, that's the damn truth. 1129 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: All right for you I will go with b I 1130 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: will go with Japanese. I didn't know. 1131 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 3: It's so trendy. That's true. They sit on their hands, Luke. 1132 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 2: That's so trendy. Okay, yeah, thank god you sit on 1133 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: your hand. 1134 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: During this show. They don't act like primates who throw 1135 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: their feces at one another when they get angry. Yes, 1136 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,919 Speaker 1: God forbid that they act remotely civilized. I don't love 1137 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: everything about the Japanese crowds, but you're asking me for 1138 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: a choice. I'm going to go in those three with 1139 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: japan Here's why. When we were watching two forty nine BC, 1140 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: I was so happy to not hear Woo's Oh my god, 1141 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: it is just finish you have you had your you. 1142 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: It is a big deal. It makes it so unpleasant, 1143 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: it makes it absolutely awful. The booing I don't like, 1144 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: but I've just learned to live with and that doesn't 1145 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: bother me as much. But I will say this BC, 1146 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: and this is where the part that I really missed 1147 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: the fans. No one makes the good part of m 1148 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: M A as a live experience as well as the 1149 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: fans do. When the fans are cheering for McGregor and 1150 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: there and there, and they're in song together and in 1151 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: unison that can't be topped. You go back to UFC 1152 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: Dublin where Connor beat Diego, what's his face? I forget now, 1153 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: Brandon and and to see that crowd they imagine there 1154 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: was no crowd for UFC Dublin. Would UFC Dublin have 1155 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: been as good as it was, No, it would not 1156 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: have been. They were an integral piece of that puzzle, 1157 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: and I can acknowledge that. And yes, there's beer flying. 1158 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: I don't mind that. We've all seen world videos where 1159 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: they're showing some big park in the middle of Amsterdam 1160 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: and then the Dutch score and everyone's chucking their beer 1161 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: in the air. Dude, that's great. I'm all in favor 1162 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: of that. I just can't stand the Wos so much 1163 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: that I'd rather take a twenty four hour flight to 1164 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: Tokyo if that's what it required, just so I wouldn't 1165 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: have to hear it. I hate them that much, Luke. 1166 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 2: You just hate pro wrestling, which I get. Look, I'm 1167 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 2: slowering to a certain degree. I don't cover it as 1168 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 2: much anymore. I love the real thing a lot more, 1169 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 2: believe me. But it's just people celebrating that they're there partying, 1170 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 2: having a good time. And I also think the average 1171 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 2: white lagger drinking just bleed stereotypical MMA crowd is a 1172 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 2: smarter crowd than we give them credit. They pick up 1173 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 2: on the beginnings of momentum switches, and that's actually the 1174 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 2: best part, when you can feel at thundering in the 1175 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 2: arena that somebody's beginning what looks like it could be 1176 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: a comeback. I stand by those people, and that's nothing 1177 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 2: against the Japanese folks, but I stand by those people. 1178 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: Okay, dude, again, I think MMA crowds have gotten so 1179 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: much better in terms of the toetality of the experience. Notice, 1180 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying one thing, the booze I can live with. 1181 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: That's not a reason to chuck the baby out with 1182 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: the bathwater. It's the wooz. Dude. It's like, dude, we 1183 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: have to do this at every event in every city 1184 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: for no discernible reason other than you don't feel like 1185 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: public space is a thing that you have an obligation 1186 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: to maintain in an orderly and civilized way. I just 1187 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: like being a good neighbor BC. I mow my lawn 1188 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: on time, and I pay my taxes. You know what, 1189 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's all. 1190 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 2: No, your neighbor actually asked you if they could landscape 1191 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: your yard for you because you've become such a pariah 1192 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, and you basically told them off. So 1193 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 2: don't act like you know you're this friendly guy. You're 1194 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: also telling stories about going out in DC with PTSD 1195 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 2: guys and just knocking fools out and dragging them by 1196 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: their wife. 1197 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 1: Beater. 1198 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 2: Don't give me that, Luke. I know who you are 1199 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: on the inside. 1200 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that's true. I'm also a deranged hypocrite. 1201 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: All right. With that in mind, we go to Denny 1202 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: Bond fan double O seven. What Martial Arts Action Stars 1203 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 1: would have done well in m ABC? What do you think? 1204 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, look, I'm the biggest Steven sigolfan there possibly is 1205 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: in terms of his the cheese, the amazing cheesiness and 1206 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 2: brutality of his prime movies, and that prime run. 1207 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 3: Was very small. 1208 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 2: He went direct to DVD really quick. Despite having that 1209 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 2: that that's somewhat memorable comeback when he paired himself with 1210 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 2: top rappers of the moment. But to see the quickness 1211 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 2: of his I kdo And you know we've seen him 1212 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: in a lot of instructional videos with Anderson Silva and 1213 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 2: certain guys, and you know, I just want to see 1214 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: if that could actually translate to the octagon. I want 1215 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 2: to see if that ability to just have insanely fast 1216 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 2: hands and redirect somebody who's charging at you can be 1217 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: packaged with well rounded traditional mixed martial arts skills and 1218 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: see if a guy wearing a kimono with a long braid, 1219 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 2: who probably touched all the females in the room illegally 1220 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,479 Speaker 2: before he walked in, could actually pull that off. That's 1221 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 2: my choice. 1222 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: I am old enough to remember when it was discussed 1223 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: heavily on what was previously MMA dot tv now Mixed 1224 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: Martial Arts, and then Joe Rogan made the call out 1225 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 1: during a broadcast of a UFC pay per view Wesley Snipes. 1226 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, there was a time when 1227 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: it was rumored, and I think they even tried to 1228 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: do and at least there was some kind of momentum 1229 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: towards making a Joe Rogan versus Wesley Snipes fight, Yes 1230 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: during a UFC event, and Joe was all in my 1231 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: memory serves I could be wrong about this. Joe was 1232 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: all in favor of it. We're talking about, like, you 1233 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: know what Hollywood celebrity. Now, I don't know what action star. Okay, 1234 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: so Joe is not an action star because he's not 1235 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: had that kind of career. But he's been in Hollywood, 1236 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: he's been on major television shows. The answer is Joe 1237 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: Rogan or Wesley Snipes. I would love to see that 1238 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: fight or I mean maybe not now they're kind of 1239 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: older and long in the tooth. But ten fifteen years 1240 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: ago when they were talking about it, fifteen years ago, BC, 1241 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it 1242 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: at all. 1243 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: Had no Wesley Snipes had some tax issues and had 1244 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 2: a jail term coming, so I think he was fairly desperate. 1245 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,959 Speaker 3: But yeah, that would have been great. 1246 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: You know. I mean, anyone can say Van dam all 1247 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 2: these other guys whatever. What about Michael Jay White? Remember 1248 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 2: that those videos of him showing Kimball how to land 1249 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: sneaky punches? That could be interesting. 1250 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the gentleman who you will not recall 1251 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: from books that are watching. This is the one that no, 1252 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: this is this is the one that Mike Perry openly 1253 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: called the N word on Twitter. Uh. He has been 1254 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: in a bunch of movies, including a movie that I 1255 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: did not think they pulled off all that well, but 1256 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate what they tried, which was Spawn. You ever 1257 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: seen the movie Spawn, which comes from the image comic 1258 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: books the Spawn series, Who's like a sort of Faustian deal, 1259 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of upside down Batman. 1260 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 2: No, I have not seen it. Luke, Am I coming 1261 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: in there and I think I'm having internet troubles? Can 1262 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: you hear me? Can you see me? 1263 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: I know we're live, I see you, I see you, 1264 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: just find But is your zoom screen like super blurry 1265 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: like it was when we tried to watch bast Cast 1266 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: Marquez or whatever fight. 1267 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 2: That was, Yes, super blurry, not a little bit blurry, 1268 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: super blurry right now? All right? 1269 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: I think Jay is doing the show that he is 1270 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: powering everything out of his home, and I'm telling you 1271 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: right now he's missing cues and the stream sucks because 1272 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: he is on cam Soda right now. I guarantee it. 1273 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: I guarantee it, BC. That's where he's at. 1274 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: Normally I like. 1275 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: To see last but not least. 1276 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Normally I like to see Jay's face in that 1277 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 2: tiny zoom window. 1278 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: Let me say this last question. I would recommend fixing 1279 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: this dude's name Underscore Jack or Jack Underscore with three 1280 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: k's the three ks BC never a good life choice. 1281 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: Either go with the two or the four or something 1282 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: like that. Right, never the three. 1283 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: But okay, he says, I mean it's on brand. It's 1284 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: on brand for the stereotypical MMA fan, but I'm not 1285 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 2: into it. 1286 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: Caught a glimpse of Luke Thomas's forearm tattoo, so I 1287 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: want to know if you boys have any cool crazy 1288 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: tattoo stories. I imagine Marine Time ones would be good. 1289 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: BC you got any tats. 1290 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 2: I do not have any tats because there are very 1291 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 2: few things in life that I just fear, loathe and detest, 1292 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: and spiders would be one of them, Black licorice would 1293 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 2: be another, and needles would would also be on that list. Luke, 1294 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're gonna hear me now. My 1295 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: internet's crazy, but I once had of aasectomy and there 1296 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 2: were three needles in so I'll never be getting a tattoo. 1297 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Thank you three needles. 1298 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's referencing this one. This is the one that 1299 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: I have. It's the Yeah, I hear you, this is 1300 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: the talking about right here. 1301 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 3: If you know you know what that surgery entails three needles, bro. 1302 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can no longer appropate, which you know not 1303 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: too I think is the end of the world. 1304 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Three. 1305 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I get it. 1306 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 1307 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't have any crazy tattoo stories, but I do 1308 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: have some bad ones that I'm looking to get covered up. 1309 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: I I have a good one, which is BC. Do 1310 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: you know what meat tags are? 1311 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 3: No, that sounds sounds a little spicy. No, what our 1312 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 3: meat tags? 1313 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Luke? 1314 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Meat tags are essentially okay, all right, all right, right? Yeah? 1315 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: It is a meat tag is essentially the information that 1316 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: goes on your dog tag, except you get it tattooed 1317 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: on your ribs, and you do it if your combat 1318 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: arms in the Marine Corps, which I was. So I've 1319 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: got meat tags tattooed on my ribs. I've got I've 1320 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: got a tattoo on my chest. I've got Asian characters, 1321 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: very small ones somewhere that I'm looking to cover up 1322 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: because BC, there was no way I was going to 1323 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: get out of my twenties without making some cataclysmically stupid decisions. 1324 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: That's one of them. But I've got another tattoo on 1325 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: my back and I'm looking to get I'm looking to 1326 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: fill this arm up completely, so we'll see how that goes. 1327 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm so lucky, Luke, that I have this aversion to needles, 1328 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 2: because you know, I would have some really bad ones 1329 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 2: I would really have. I probably have girls' names, Larry 1330 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Bird's jersey on there. I probably have some really song 1331 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 2: like real bad song lyrics from nineties bands and no 1332 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: one's heard of, Like it would probably would have been 1333 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 2: really bad. You know, I still question if you can 1334 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: fire me, and this is the end of me on 1335 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 2: this show. 1336 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: For some reason. 1337 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Three of them? 1338 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, With that in mind, BC, it is time 1339 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: for you to take over the show with your favorite 1340 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: segment where we look at Deck's go ahead, good sir. 1341 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what we do. We scour the globe 1342 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 2: for the good, bad, and ugly, the best and worst 1343 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 2: from combat sports in the beyond. 1344 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Luke, it's have you seen this ship up? 1345 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 2: First? 1346 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Is my best sectomy? 1347 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: Here? 1348 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 3: Let's show needle number one? No, what do we got 1349 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 3: here from? 1350 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 2: One? Mma, Luke? 1351 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 3: Not one championship? 1352 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 2: One? Mm A. I gotta ask you a quest question, 1353 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 2: is this the best ko ever or the best celebration 1354 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 2: of a victory ever? First? You send the guy to hell? 1355 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a good ko. 1356 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: And then check this out, Luke. 1357 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: And then he does the whole Johnson spinning Yeah, oh Jesus, 1358 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: because you were knocking out the guy who think it's 1359 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 1: a little us. 1360 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Wow. 1361 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: All right, dude, this is I can't let me see 1362 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: you see, let me say something. I can barely see 1363 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: what is happening because Jay is powering everything through a 1364 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: potato in his house. 1365 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Jay, how about that nineties count? You're so unbelievable. Oh 1366 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 2: what the f so yeah, shout out to that spinning 1367 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 2: head kick in ridiculous celebration. The guy look like uh, 1368 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 2: the guy look like Simone Biles right there. All right, Luke, 1369 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 2: all right, no, okay, all right. I don't know if 1370 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 2: we're live anymore, but we're gonna go on to number two. Uh. 1371 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 2: This is an oldie buck goodie, this amateur boxing ko 1372 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 2: in which he turns this guy into mister Freeze. It's 1373 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 2: recirculated the past week. Luke. It's one of the greatest 1374 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 2: things that ever happened. I mean, I think he knocked 1375 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: the guy out two separate times. 1376 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, he stiffening him up, turn him into a mannequin, 1377 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and then just pushed him over. 1378 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 3: I mean that's freaking brutal. 1379 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is not great. I'm having a hard 1380 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: time anybody that. 1381 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 2: Frozen since Ted Williams. Yeah, all right, we're gonna go 1382 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: on here skate let'scheck how did my skateboarding fail. Let's 1383 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 2: see how this one ends here on the uh on 1384 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: the streets of San Francisco. Here, Luke, check this. 1385 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 4: Oh oh god, oh god, yeah, I got I got 1386 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 4: a number of a good uh, a good vastectomy doctor. 1387 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 2: He'll finish the job for you. 1388 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Wow. Bro, it knocked him out of his shoes. 1389 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 4: Oh god, Yeah, that random smike in the ground has 1390 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 4: sent you to hell. Tony Hawk, yes, all right, oh god, Hey, 1391 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna go on from Armenia with love. Can somebody 1392 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 4: get mama off this slipping slide. We got a little 1393 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 4: amateur wrestling match here in. 1394 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 3: The community, Luke. 1395 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 2: But as things start to heat up, whoa mama, Throw 1396 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 2: mama from the train. Get that babushka lady out. 1397 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: For Theresa's grandma. How do you know it's Armenia. 1398 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: I have, I have my sources. It's it's written on 1399 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 2: the screen right there. I know you can't see it, 1400 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 2: but uh, Luke, somebody get off the off the yellow canvas. 1401 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 2: What is happening here? Nice scalu punts. 1402 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Spell the word you just used for grandma. 1403 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: Spell it a b u l e t a. 1404 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Abita, abuela abu et la solita. 1405 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 3: All I'm close. 1406 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 2: I was the fifth grade spelling bee champion of my 1407 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 2: town and I came to fourteenth place at the state tournament. Okay, Luke, fourteenth, 1408 01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 2: Thank you take. 1409 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: That very good? 1410 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 2: All right? 1411 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: All right? You know my mom's Armenia, Armenian. She is 1412 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: My mom is Armenia. Yeah, she grew up in were 1413 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: they were refugees in Syria from the the the genocide 1414 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: that Turkey refuses to acknowledge, and then they My mom 1415 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: was born in Aleppo and then moved to Bay Route. Yep. 1416 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Wow, there's still time to recognize that though. Shout out 1417 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 2: to to the late missus Thomas. I thought she was 1418 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 2: from Cutter That's where where all my comedy was coming from. 1419 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 1: But she was an Armenian national living out of Bay Route. 1420 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Love it. 1421 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 3: Love the backstory, Luke, I love what makes you who 1422 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 3: you are? 1423 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas? 1424 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: A factory town in Syria. 1425 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 1426 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the gym. Now check out this 1427 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 2: martial artist warming up and performing. Is he setting up 1428 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 2: for a fight, luc or is he gonna molest some kids? 1429 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 2: What is happening here? Is that Stephen? Is that wonderful? 1430 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 2: What is what's going out there? 1431 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: Dude? He looks like you know, listen, listen, he's practicing 1432 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: like crossing guard motions traffic this way. 1433 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 2: I think that's like fifty year old wonder boy Thompson. 1434 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you may I appreciate this, BC. You may 1435 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate this if you go to a regular gym, 1436 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, like regular gyms are trying to 1437 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: like diversify their fitness offerings, so more and more what 1438 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing BC is and this was not the case 1439 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. You're seeing heavy bags everywhere, or even 1440 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: speed bags. If you want to see the worst fucking 1441 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 1: boxing in your life, go to like a Golds that 1442 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: has set up a heavy bag and you will see 1443 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: this kind of shit constantly. 1444 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean, what is this guy preparing to like like 1445 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: it looks like he's setting up to chop me like 1446 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 2: like bam, Like yeah, all. 1447 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Right, no he's swatting butterflies. 1448 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Well we're gonna continue on to some 1449 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 2: uh further ridiculous workout methods. Check out this guy on 1450 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 2: the UH on the elliptical machine here, Luke setting up 1451 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 2: for coming genocide he has planned. Can we get to this? 1452 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 2: What is happening here? Luke? 1453 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 5: My man is just stabbing the haters. Fucking look at 1454 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 5: this stab stab. 1455 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 3: You come out of the rest of the room at 1456 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 3: the gym. 1457 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 5: My man brought a katana to fucking plant fitness so 1458 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 5: he could just stab imaginary haters. 1459 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's good, that's good stuff. I needed that. All right. 1460 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna go to ksw Ain't that in Russia? 1461 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 2: Luke? Is that Russian? 1462 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 1: Poland? Poland? 1463 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 2: Or just in a hurry? 1464 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 3: Okay, it's in Poland. Check out this ground defense? 1465 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Is that? That's how you get in a guy's guard, Luke? 1466 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I mean you gotta give the guy 1467 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 3: in the bottom credit. 1468 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 2: He was up in that ass. Luke. You know what 1469 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1470 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,919 Speaker 1: Oh, this show is so stupid. Oh this is on earth. 1471 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Kills. 1472 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's go back to the gym. 1473 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 2: You ever have a hype, man, Luke, when you're when 1474 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 2: you're set to do a dead lift and you got 1475 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 2: one of your buddies in your face, like, yo, bro, 1476 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 2: you could do this? 1477 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,759 Speaker 1: Oh right, this wait, that's Bradley, that's Bradley Martin. 1478 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 2: All right, you got to slap a guy. Oh no, 1479 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 2: oh no, oh, that's that's not real, lucas it that's real. 1480 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: That's the sat Bradley Martin now does sketches. Yeah, this 1481 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: is this is not real. 1482 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 2: All right, I got caught, Luke, I'll take the l 1483 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 2: I got caught, all right, that's not I didn't think 1484 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 2: that slap was enough to knock that guy cold. 1485 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: No, it's not, Luke. 1486 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 2: You know what is the worst in the gym though, 1487 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 2: When you're like fourteen years old and I've been here 1488 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 2: and you go sit down on the bench and you 1489 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 2: put up your like twenty fives on each side, and 1490 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 2: some jack dude who's wearing shorts way too small and 1491 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 2: tight comes from across the gym's like, yo, you spot me, 1492 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 2: and you're like, bro, I'm like one hundred and eight pounds. 1493 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to help you get this, 1494 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 2: you know, three hundred nine off your chest that you're like, 1495 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 2: why do those guys do that? 1496 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Because you're wrong? You can remember, they can push. If 1497 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: that's a max load and they can get at all 1498 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,679 Speaker 1: halfway close to it, you don't have to put exert 1499 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: much force on it to get up where it needs 1500 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 1: to go. You're actually wrong about that. 1501 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,799 Speaker 2: I'm intimidated by that. I'm not helping anyone. Okay, especially 1502 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 2: post COVID. Hey, let's go to the socker pitch. 1503 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 3: Look, look, we got some football. You know what the 1504 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 3: problem with your sport? 1505 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 2: Here? Football, there's a lot of floppers. There's a lot 1506 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 2: of fakers. Check out these two guys. It look like 1507 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 2: we're about to have like a go at. It look 1508 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 2: like we're gonna have some drama, some action and then 1509 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 2: check this out. 1510 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 3: No, come on, is that a double dq. 1511 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 2: Flop double lockout? 1512 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what. I can't even lie it is. 1513 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: It's a terrible portion of the game, and it actually 1514 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: is worse depending on which country you go to. The 1515 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Italians are really bad about it. I watched the Spanish League, 1516 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 1: which is worse than the Premier League about it. It 1517 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: is the problem is they've gotten so good at it. 1518 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: This is a bad example, but they've gotten so good 1519 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: that it's actually an art form now, Like they're like, 1520 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: there are guys who practice it. 1521 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 2: You know, you know where they're not doing that shit, Armenia, 1522 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much, Luke. Okay, they do'll mess 1523 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,799 Speaker 2: around with that, all right, they're surviving genocides, they would. 1524 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Not shot shouts to Henrik mcarian. 1525 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 2: All right, Hey, speaking of soccer and some slide tackles, 1526 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 2: here's a new way to slide in a chicksdm to 1527 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 2: get her attention. What do you think about this guy's effort? Wow? 1528 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I think I think this is domestic abuse. 1529 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 2: I mean, you know the kids these days, Look, they'll 1530 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 2: do anything to get a viral prom asking video, right, 1531 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I think, yes, they're the homecoming right there? 1532 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah? Did he get a yes? 1533 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 2: I don't. 1534 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I can't mean, what is this the caveman area where 1535 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: you just clubbing a woman over the head and dragging 1536 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: her back. 1537 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 3: I think he was out at the plate on that one, Luke. 1538 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Wow, Okay, he looks a little husky too. 1539 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he had any chance with 1540 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 2: that chick. 1541 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a decent athlete though, It's. 1542 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 3: True, but you know, hit the gym, bro, hit the gym. Okay, 1543 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 3: get a hype man, hit the gym. 1544 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, less slide tackling women, more sit ups. 1545 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, all right, Now it's the time in Sprockets 1546 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 2: where we do hot dog stuff, Luke, would you eat now? 1547 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Look during quarantine, right, we're not We're not trying to 1548 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 2: leave the house. We're coming up with new cooking methods. 1549 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 2: Would you follow this, Luke? The more I watch this video, 1550 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm against it. Put it on 1551 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 2: the pork cycle, take it out right, you throw some 1552 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 2: ketchup on there, Luke. 1553 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: It all tastes the same, seems like a fairly inefficient 1554 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: way to make hot dogs. 1555 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, if you boil hot dogs, 1556 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 3: you're an a hole. 1557 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:37,680 Speaker 1: I know. 1558 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 2: I told you I did the George Foreman grow thing 1559 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 2: in my apartment when I was twenty, but I was 1560 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 2: real high, Luke, come on, you know, I don't know 1561 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 2: if i'd do this, but you know what, if you 1562 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 2: couldn't leave the house anymore because of this code. Look, 1563 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 2: if I followed the measures of your Twitter account in 1564 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 2: terms of my own COVID safety, this may be home 1565 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 2: cooking all my meals for the rest of the calendar 1566 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 2: year until February first, twenty twenty one. When we want crowds, bro, 1567 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 2: just throat. 1568 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have no stove and no pan? 1569 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,919 Speaker 1: Nothing you have? I mean no microwave even I don't understand. 1570 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 2: All right, all right, hey, speaking of hot dogs, check 1571 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 2: out this ad. Not a good look for your boy, 1572 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 2: Carson Palmer, the former Heisman Trophy winner. 1573 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Go longer? Yeah, you go any longer? 1574 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 2: Bro? That's uh. 1575 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,719 Speaker 3: I think that's third base if you're go any longer 1576 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 3: than that? 1577 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 2: Wow? All right, Luke? 1578 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, where is this from? Uh? 1579 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,719 Speaker 2: Shout out to the people at morel uh Wieners, Dude. 1580 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: You love you love the Hogy farts account Like no 1581 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: one I've ever seen it brings it. I shout out 1582 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: and let me and let me tell you this is 1583 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: not uncommon. There was an ad when RG three was 1584 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: big in DC before he completely shredded his knees to pieces. 1585 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 1: Where he had he had a big ass twelve inch 1586 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 1: subway sub twelve inch what, Luke? Yeah, twelve inch subway 1587 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: sub and it was like a full twelve inches and 1588 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: he was on it. I'm like, RG three, I don't 1589 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 1: think this says what you think it says. 1590 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 2: Buddy, Yeah that I'm sure it wasn't a black draw commercial. 1591 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you know. 1592 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 1: Cam Soda Chase probably watching it now if. 1593 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 3: You know, you know, hey, let's let's go to this. 1594 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Here's how you grab life by the horror and Luke, 1595 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: I think this is an Armenian Army training videos. WHOA 1596 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 2: what is? What? Do you what? 1597 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand what he did. 1598 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 2: Well you'll see, Luke. You know I sing on do 1599 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 2: what you like and if you missed it, I'm the 1600 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 2: one who said just grab him in the biscuits, Luke. 1601 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 2: Is this a proper combat technique? Or or is this 1602 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 2: how you come on to someone? 1603 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 3: Luke, I don't understand this at all. 1604 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Do these guys bang each other afterwards? 1605 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 2: I hope that I see an adult movies start like this. 1606 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, not not this this style, not this genre of 1607 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 3: yeah all right, yeah yeah. 1608 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Have you have you watched videos like this? Tell me 1609 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,760 Speaker 1: how I am? 1610 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 2: BC? I have not. I have not see. 1611 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 3: This is where my career goes in the wrong direction. 1612 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Luke. 1613 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 3: I don't advocate for this stuff. The people bring it 1614 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 3: to me. You should see my dms. 1615 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,639 Speaker 2: They're a mess. But uh, speaking of tip to tip, Luke, 1616 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 2: a movement that you were a part of, one of 1617 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,679 Speaker 2: your faithful live chat listeners sent me in this picture 1618 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 2: to close this week on have you seen this ship? 1619 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 3: Luke going tea to tea with another man a couple 1620 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 3: of weeks back. 1621 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Check that out. You got some splaining to do, Luke? 1622 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 1: How did I get recluded? How did I decide? After 1623 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I had a meeting with showtime, He's like, you know 1624 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: how I gotta call. I gotta call the guy who 1625 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 1: is obsessed with dick touching. That's the that's the call 1626 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: that I need to make right now. And here we are, 1627 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 1: and I got recruited into all of this. You know what, 1628 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I have no one to blame about myself. BC. That's it. 1629 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guilty the lucky guy, Luke. 1630 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: That's my producer, Mike Russo from the U from the 1631 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: Luke Thomas Show. On a serious XM. 1632 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 2: Hey shout out to Sirius XM. Luke. I have very 1633 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 2: limited exposure access to it, but uh for Mother's Day 1634 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 2: and and and my anniversary and my wife's birthday, which 1635 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 2: all happened with like in a week and a half. 1636 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Like I get I get hit hard. I got her 1637 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 2: a new car the other day. Wow, I'm rocking out 1638 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 2: with that serious you know what I'm saying. 1639 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well channel one fifty six. Hey, free listening until 1640 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 1: the end of the month. 1641 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 2: By the way, so yeah, okay, so just so so 1642 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: I actually know, like I should know this because we're 1643 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 2: we're friends, Luke, and I respect you as a human. 1644 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 2: But channel one five six, what time is your show on? 1645 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 2: So I could get in the car if I'm out, 1646 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,640 Speaker 2: you know, running an errand and I can normal normally. 1647 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 1: Three East Coast time? This week one? This week one? 1648 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 2: What's the name of the channel? Is it like Rush 1649 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 2: or something weird like that? 1650 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: It was? Now it's Fight Nation and and Busted Open 1651 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 1: is on it. It's all pro wrestling, which I know 1652 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: you love. 1653 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 2: All right, thank you? Serious? I got I got thirty 1654 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 2: days with it, Luke. I'll try it out, all right, 1655 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 2: thank you. 1656 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 1: There you go, give it a good, give it a run. 1657 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,679 Speaker 1: You got any more dicks? 1658 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 3: I have have you seen that ship? 1659 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 2: It's over. It's over, Luke. 1660 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: Now we can keep very good. Uh okay, be seen. 1661 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, by the way, I like 1662 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 1: how after the segment, I now can see everything clearly 1663 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: on zoom, which is great. Okay. With that in mind, BC, 1664 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 1: it is time for odds and ends. What is your 1665 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: odds and ends for da week? 1666 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,400 Speaker 2: What was that, Jason? If you're gonna interrupt the sho 1667 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 2: at least speak clearly. 1668 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jays, all confidence now that the zoom stream has 1669 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 1: has clean cleaned up. But go ahead, all right? 1670 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,600 Speaker 2: My odds and ends this week is some news that 1671 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 2: I kind of oddly became a part of. Luke. I 1672 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 2: know people hate this, they hate them may with them 1673 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 2: McGregor type mythical craft. But I was talking to Oscar 1674 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 2: de la Hoya on my podcast The State of Combat 1675 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 2: on CBS Sports, and earlier in the episode, Ray Bartholomew 1676 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 2: and I were like, you know, it's quarantine time. 1677 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 3: Let's make some fun fights. 1678 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, how about Oscar de la Hoya at 1679 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 2: forty seven today against Connor McGregor. 1680 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 3: Ten rounds? 1681 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 2: Who you got? And I assumed he would be like 1682 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 2: I would where I'm like, you know, Connor's thirty one, 1683 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,720 Speaker 2: he'll just outlast him. My boy race like, no, dude, 1684 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 2: Connor Osco knocked that dude out. I'm like two rounds. 1685 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think we got a fun fight here. Now. Look, Predisclore, 1686 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 2: you know I eat hot dogs. I like hashtag old 1687 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 2: guy fights. I like the slop, Okay, I asked Oscar 1688 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,680 Speaker 2: that question. He's like, Oh, come on, bro, I'll knock 1689 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 2: him out in two rounds. 1690 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 1: You know. 1691 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 2: That was the end of the conversation. Suddenly, four days later, 1692 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 2: Connor McGregor's like, I accept your offer, and this kind 1693 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 2: of became a thing for a couple of days. Luke. Now, look, 1694 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 2: I know everybody watching this is cringing their face off 1695 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 2: at this idea, and I hope I get a cut 1696 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 2: of it, by the way, when it happens. But Luke, 1697 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong, if those two forty seven 1698 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 2: year old Oscar and Connor boxed for ten rounds, you 1699 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 2: don't know what it would look like, tell me that 1700 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 2: you don't know what it would look like. True. 1701 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things though that I don't know 1702 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 1: what it would look like that I don't have an 1703 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,919 Speaker 1: interest in finding out what. I've never seen an actual 1704 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 1: shit sandwich. Fairly convinced I don't need to order one 1705 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,880 Speaker 1: at the local, you know, bodega. 1706 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 2: See we go on habib up on the screen. 1707 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I don't know what that's all about. I 1708 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: will say last week was a good week for you, 1709 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: so you had you started an international war between Mexico 1710 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: and Ireland. Number one, Yes, and then number two. You 1711 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 1: were the only reporter, and this is true. Well, subsequently 1712 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 1: other ones asked after you. But you were the first 1713 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: reporter anyway to ask Dana to what extent were endeavors, 1714 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: financial woes part of the reason why they are pursuing 1715 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 1: an aggressive schedule to return now? He said it had 1716 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: no relationship. I'm skeptical of that, but he said, and 1717 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: you asked them, So I give you credit. BC. You 1718 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 1: had a strong week last week. 1719 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Thank you, Luke. At least somebody understands. No, 1720 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 2: I didn't ask him. Hey, are you and Lorenzo still 1721 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 2: touching tips? No, I'm an actual journalist. In fact, you 1722 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 2: know what, maybe have you seen the shit is over? 1723 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 2: Maybe you've seen all the shit already? Okay, I mean, 1724 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 2: how many more holgi farts videos can I find? Maybe 1725 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 2: it's time to take a turn for the professional in 1726 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 2: the pot. No more karate kid caps, all right, no 1727 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 2: more weird vest Okay, It's time to get real here, Luke. Okay, Yes, 1728 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 2: I interviewed Dana White on CBS Sports HQ Live for 1729 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 2: twelve straight minutes. 1730 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,640 Speaker 3: I asked him the hard balls Luke, all right, so 1731 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 3: get off. 1732 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: You certainly did, now BC. We'd be remiss if I 1733 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 1: didn't give you my odds and ends, which is very quickly. 1734 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: There is a UFC event coming up this Wednesday, and 1735 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of programming on this channel. We're 1736 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 1: still trying to figure it all out, but it's going 1737 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to be built around that, so stay tuned. Of course, 1738 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: like the video, subscribe the whole bit, Anthony Smith is 1739 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,559 Speaker 1: going to be taking on in the very same arena 1740 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: where they've been for Saturday. They're going to be here 1741 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: for Wednesday as well as the following Saturday. But for 1742 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Wednesday show BC for the UFC, Anthony Smith is going 1743 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to take on Glover to share. I find this to 1744 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 1: be a very interesting one because it reminds me a 1745 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a heavyweight dynamic, which is to say, 1746 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,759 Speaker 1: heavyweight has a problem with younger talent pushing through because 1747 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: for some reason, the older guys in that division they 1748 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: age out a little bit more slowly. Like at bansamweight 1749 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 1: crews look to be considerably slower than a thirty three 1750 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 1: year old Henry Shuto, and you look at the rest 1751 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: division with San Haagen and Stirling and Yon, where everyone 1752 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 1: is about thirty or less, and you can just tell 1753 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: there's this youth movement coming through. Smith is certainly not 1754 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,040 Speaker 1: like super young, but he's much younger than to Shara, 1755 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: who's past forty. Yet to Shara is a very very 1756 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: good fighter. And every time they keep giving this dude 1757 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: more recently anyway, younger people to like kind of like 1758 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: push out those old guys to usher in the new ones. 1759 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 1: That old dog shows you you could teach the other 1760 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: one's new tricks. It's not really gonna matter a whole lot, 1761 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 1: very very important fight for that light heavyweight division, because 1762 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: you got Dominic Rays, he wants a piece of John Jones. 1763 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,719 Speaker 1: By the way, John Jones putting up some deadlifting videos 1764 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend, looking very very strong. And then you've 1765 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: got Jan Blhovich who wants to fist him to me 1766 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 1: Anthony Smith. If he gets a win over to Shera, 1767 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 1: that'll be the second win or the first win since 1768 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 1: beating Alexander Gustavsimp. So he loses to Jones, come back 1769 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to beat Gustuson and to Shera, he might be in 1770 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,640 Speaker 1: line for another title shot to me big doings over 1771 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 1: l heavyweight? How do you handicap that one? 1772 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I like how you quickly looked over that 1773 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,720 Speaker 2: no contest in that house invasion. Bad joke there, I 1774 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 2: got it. Look I like this fight a lot. And 1775 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 2: I've been critical of Anthony Smith in the past. He's 1776 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 2: a tough dude, okay, And and I do again thank 1777 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,839 Speaker 2: him for not taking that DQ title when he's rebuilding 1778 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 2: himself nicely. 1779 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 3: The gusts and win was great. 1780 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 2: This gives him that opportunity, especially with the continued back 1781 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 2: and forth with him and John, which kind of creates 1782 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 2: another angle and storyline there. And John took another cheap 1783 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 2: shot at him again Saturday night on Twitter. 1784 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 3: If he can get by a repackaged. 1785 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 2: Glover t chera who looks a little bit reborn in 1786 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 2: his age, this is really like, Yeah, this guy deserves 1787 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 2: to be right in that dom Res blohovits conversation, I 1788 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 2: can't believe that light heavyweight is sort of repopulating itself, 1789 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 2: like John joneses cleaned out this division twice. I'm kind 1790 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 2: of blown away that it's starting to get fun again. 1791 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 2: Where at the end of the day, do I think 1792 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 2: John Jones should go to heavyweight and fulfill the potential, 1793 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 2: the ceiling potential of his greatness. Yes, but if he 1794 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: doesn't want to, there are fun fights to make. And 1795 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 2: you know, my boy, Maheta, he's going to be able 1796 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,759 Speaker 2: to walk again one of these days too, So there's 1797 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 2: some names there, Luke. 1798 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I saw him at UFC DC when was that BC, 1799 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: like October November something like that. I think that's right, 1800 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: And he looked to be He looked to be not 1801 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,440 Speaker 1: running around, but he could. He was mobile. Thiago Santos, 1802 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 1: So I would imagine by now he's in an even 1803 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: better state. Hard to say exactly what he's gonna be, 1804 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 1: fight ready, but very very interesting moment there for that 1805 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 1: let heaway division. And you're right, it's like, dude, John Jones. 1806 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 1: If the last couple of fights have shown anything, he 1807 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,719 Speaker 1: is still the top dog, deservedly so. But he's human 1808 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: and he's beatable. I thought Dominic Rayes did it and 1809 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 1: Anthony Smith did not have the very best showing against him, 1810 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,759 Speaker 1: But I'm not utterly convinced he has no shot against 1811 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: him either. I would like to see it if if 1812 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,040 Speaker 1: he can get past old man Glover to share who 1813 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: by the way, I asked Lever One time BC, I 1814 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 1: was like, who are you at the right You're at 1815 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 1: a party. What is Glover to share doing? Are you 1816 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 1: the guy that's pulling people uncomfortably onto the dance floor. 1817 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Are you the guy that's like, you know, outside the 1818 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: whole time? Or whatever? He says. I'm the guy with 1819 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 1: the best stories. I'm the guy out back with a 1820 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: bottle of Jamison and a cigar, and I tell the 1821 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 1: best stories. I want that one. Thomas like, yeah, I 1822 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: want there's a lot Thomas in there, dude, I want 1823 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 1: that for morning combat when he retires or so he's 1824 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: close to it. I want to go to to share 1825 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,680 Speaker 1: his house, which, by the way, I don't think you 1826 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 1: love far from you, by the way, No, I want 1827 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 1: to trap forty five minutes. Yeah, I have a couple 1828 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,720 Speaker 1: of Cuban cigars that I got from Columbia. Don't tell 1829 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 1: the U the US government, and I'll have a bottle 1830 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 1: of Jamison, and I want Glover to tell us stories. 1831 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be cool? 1832 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Minden Hall lives right near there too. Maybe we get 1833 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 2: an MK ultra party going on. I'm down with that. 1834 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just get drunk and smoke some cigars to 1835 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 1: talk to Glover about his crazy ass stories. That'd be awesome. 1836 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go on Young j Check's Instagram account. I'm 1837 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 2: down for this party. Okay, Luke, did you want to Oh, 1838 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 2: Marvin Vettore's back as well at middleweight, and uh, you know, 1839 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,559 Speaker 2: he's kind of a potential dark horse, so I'm interested 1840 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 2: to see he's in the main card. Opener. I forgot 1841 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,799 Speaker 2: he was fighting, thank you. I think he may be ansy. 1842 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 1: He may be. He might have he didn't before we go. 1843 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: Let's get to it here very quickly. Did you watch 1844 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the last dance the Jordan documentary? I think was parts 1845 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: what was it? Six seven eight? I can't keep tracks. 1846 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 2: It's so damn good. I don't have profound sort of 1847 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 2: statements that we've had in previous weeks. I'm just starting 1848 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 2: to get that itchy feeling like I don't want it 1849 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 2: to end, Like I want to see this specific attention 1850 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 2: to detail of documenting something I love, which is, you know, 1851 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 2: nineties hoops in Jordan's run. 1852 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 3: I just want to keep it going. 1853 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: I want to keep it going with this specific director 1854 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 2: and with athletes like Jordan who are literally willing to 1855 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 2: be that raw and real. I mean the man was 1856 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 2: crying and needed a break while describing why he is 1857 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 2: the way he is, why he's such a hard ass, 1858 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 2: why that's the only way he can do it is 1859 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 2: to try to be the very best he can every 1860 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,639 Speaker 2: single second. And there's certainly something inspiring about that. Luke. 1861 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 2: We all can't be wired that way where all of 1862 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 2: our personalities are different, but you gotta really pour one 1863 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 2: out for MJ. I mean, even you know, we've heard 1864 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 2: the story before of him going to baseball and all that, 1865 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 2: but even to see those involved in there be like. 1866 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 3: The dude was working around the fricking clock on that. 1867 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, Luke, do you look in the mir sometimes? 1868 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to me about this BC is 1869 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 1: if you are at all an NBA fan, or you've 1870 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: been one for let's say some time, whatever that might 1871 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 1: mean to you. Like everybody knew that Jordan was a 1872 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 1: couple of things, or a few things. One a degenerate gambler, 1873 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 1: like sports fan like hardcore NBA fans knew. They knew 1874 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: he was a vicious trash talk or two opponents on 1875 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: the court, and they knew that he was a terrorizer 1876 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,880 Speaker 1: of his teammates. Dude, he broke Kwame Brown during his 1877 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: second stint a third stint in the NBA, essentially as 1878 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 1: a Washington Wizard, and that was that was not the 1879 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,600 Speaker 1: first time he had really gone after someone. It was 1880 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 1: just emblematic of what he had been Like. This isn't 1881 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,600 Speaker 1: this was an open secret essentially to everyone who was 1882 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,560 Speaker 1: paying attention. I just wonder how the rest of the 1883 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: sporting public who's watching this documentary and did not know that, now, 1884 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 1: how do they perceive Mike. I'm gonna guess they're gonna 1885 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 1: be forgiving of him, partly because time has passed and 1886 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 1: because like, what are you gonna do? You're gonna argue 1887 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 1: with his methods? They worked, right, I mean, they won 1888 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,759 Speaker 1: every time they were basically supposed to. But it's funny. 1889 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,720 Speaker 1: It's like, it's interesting for me to watch this, but 1890 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not exactly new information. 1891 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 2: No, not by any means, but it is going, you know, 1892 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 2: underneath it and going a little bit deeper. I was 1893 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 2: so happy that they blew up that bj Armstrong segment 1894 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 2: because I you know, I remember that so vividly when 1895 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 2: he talked trash and You're like, oh, he's gonna get it. 1896 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna get it next time, Luke. 1897 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this phenomenon that's happening 1898 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 2: from this film where at the end of it, I 1899 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 2: feel like I'm just sitting there with the TV off, 1900 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 2: just like looking at my life from a distance, going, 1901 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,560 Speaker 2: you know, like, you know, I'm pretty good at what 1902 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,160 Speaker 2: I do. I give it all. 1903 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 3: I feel like I give it all. 1904 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 2: But then I'm like, wait, you know, can I be 1905 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 2: MJ Colby level maniacal? Can I go even deeper on this? 1906 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 2: Do you have those same moments? Do you look in 1907 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 2: the mirror and say, you know, I've pisched people off 1908 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 2: to win before, but maybe Luke Thomas isn't really given 1909 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,560 Speaker 2: at all. MJ kind of fires you up to realize that, 1910 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna turn every single practice we're talking 1911 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 2: about practice here into like life or death. Is that 1912 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,760 Speaker 2: how Luke Thomas approaches his day? 1913 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Quite the opposite? I mean, you guys, you know the 1914 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,160 Speaker 1: reality of my life, dude, I don't have a lot 1915 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 1: of free time. I have friends, but I don't see 1916 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: them very much, like, not even taking into account the pandemic, 1917 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: nothing like that. My life has very much become this. 1918 01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,680 Speaker 1: And I taught myself everything I know about cameras, which 1919 01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,200 Speaker 1: is not to say very much, but I taught myself. 1920 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I taught myself how to make my own thumbnails, how 1921 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 1: to edit on final cut, how to do live streams, 1922 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,640 Speaker 1: and I screw those up even to this day. But like, 1923 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 1: no one held my hand, and it's I've had some 1924 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 1: modest success with it. So mostly after one of these things, 1925 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, I actually put in a lot of 1926 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: effort and I'm still a fucking loser. That's really what 1927 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: I end up saying to myself in the mirror. I 1928 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 1: don't ever have I don't ever worry about my work 1929 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 1: ethic or did I put in the effort. I just wonder, 1930 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: like when the ship is going to come in, because motherfucker, 1931 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 1: I've been on the docks for a while. 1932 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,920 Speaker 2: The ship has come in. Okay too too, it's called 1933 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 2: morning combat. To close on that with, they did the 1934 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,400 Speaker 2: great story of Jordan challenging Steve Kerr and they had 1935 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 2: a fistfight. I'd like to see you become Jordan esque 1936 01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 2: to our our extended team here. Maybe maybe it'll take 1937 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 2: you physically fighting Jay to get him to at the 1938 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 2: level that you need him to be. 1939 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Each week, well, dude, listen, if Jay can beat up 1940 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,680 Speaker 1: your Rya Hollan sparring, which he has openly claimed, I 1941 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: don't know what shot I really have. I don't know 1942 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,559 Speaker 1: what chaan I have BC. If if you know, if 1943 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: he's beaten UFC middleweights cleanly, it's too tall in order 1944 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:07,960 Speaker 1: for me. 1945 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 2: All right, he says, He says, spinning back kick. He 1946 01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:14,080 Speaker 2: knocked your eye. 1947 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 3: Hall over with that. 1948 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 1949 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. 1950 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 3: He had been so hard he gave jockh Array the COVID. 1951 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's do this. We have we have to 1952 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,599 Speaker 1: get out of here. First things first, as always, please 1953 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 1: like the video, subscribe to the channel. They're going to 1954 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: put our social information below. You can course hit that 1955 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 1: notification bell so you can see all the videos that 1956 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 1: we put out all week, not just the ones on Monday. 1957 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,040 Speaker 1: There is uh the information for both BC and I 1958 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,799 Speaker 1: on Instagram as well as Twitter and of course Instagram 1959 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 1: and YouTube for Morning Combat BC. This is a busy 1960 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,200 Speaker 1: week for us PHILT. Today was a great show, except 1961 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 1: for when Cam SODA's interrupted our feet here because day 1962 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 1: was busy on it. But we have a lot more 1963 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,840 Speaker 1: in store for people this week, do we not. 1964 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, people love a good off. Right, you forget 1965 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,160 Speaker 2: that family matters. Great ninety sitcom was a spinoff of 1966 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,679 Speaker 2: Perfect Strangers. Right, Carl Winslow's wife worked in the damn 1967 01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,639 Speaker 2: mail room with Balky bar Taka Moose. 1968 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,920 Speaker 3: This MK product. 1969 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 2: Starting to grow some wings. You're gonna start to see 1970 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 2: the fruit of that. I know we've teased it a little, 1971 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 2: but it's coming. It may come this week. You may 1972 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,480 Speaker 2: you may get a little taste. 1973 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 1: All right. Last, but not least, if you would like 1974 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,559 Speaker 1: to try Showtime for free, a free trial, you may 1975 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,640 Speaker 1: do so. Simply go to Showtime dot com. You can 1976 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,120 Speaker 1: get a thirty day free trial. As I always tell you. 1977 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,760 Speaker 1: If you like it, you can keep it. If not, 1978 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: you can bounce the choices yours. But you can at 1979 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,679 Speaker 1: least give it the old test drive for thirty days 1980 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: without charge. Okay, all right, we have a. 1981 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,920 Speaker 2: Lot of here, College of William and Mary try Luke. 1982 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh yes, by the way, I'm supposed to tell you 1983 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 1: that Friday night, I believe they're gonna air is it 1984 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:54,439 Speaker 1: another airing Mayweather versus McGregor A the're airing Mayweather? Pakiao too, Jay, I. 1985 01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,759 Speaker 2: Think it's Mayweather my Donna, right, maybe my Donna in preparation. 1986 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Here. 1987 01:31:58,520 --> 01:31:59,519 Speaker 3: I don't know, Jay, I. 1988 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 1: Didn't I didn't know. I didn't know. All right, here's 1989 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 1: what I do know. So they're gonna air Mayweather, my Donna, 1990 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: and then Mayweather McGregor on showtime on Friday night. BC 1991 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and I are gonna be with you on Friday night 1992 01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: as we do a Classic Combat YouTube live additional stream. 1993 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna drink beers, we're gonna talk about the fights, 1994 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 1: and they're gonna air some interesting ones from Floyd Mayweather. 1995 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: So it should be it's gonna. 1996 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,719 Speaker 2: Be a fun night. It's gonna be money ten Eastern 1997 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,760 Speaker 2: on showtime. Look, just come crack jokes with us, Okay, 1998 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,759 Speaker 2: it's an interactive experience. You send in your comments or questions. 1999 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,639 Speaker 2: We'll crack a couple cold ones with you. It should 2000 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 2: be a fun time, all right. 2001 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 1: Well, that being said, go follow BC over at CBS 2002 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,679 Speaker 1: Sports and everything else he's got going on for BC. 2003 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I am Luke Thomas and everyone here and Malka in 2004 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Showtime and the whole Morning Combat crew really appreciate you 2005 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: guys watching it. Until next time, May all of your 2006 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 1: gains be loyal