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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: I said, I not Nandez Police. Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to doosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: This week we are joined by the sensational Sashir Zamata,

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Speaker 1: who of course is constantly on television podcasts and former

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live cast member. I asked her a little

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Speaker 1: bit about is thirty Raw haunted? I always wonder that

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Speaker 1: that place haunted. It has to be whatever Sashier came

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Speaker 1: with the stories, honey. So I'm just gonna make this

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Speaker 1: intro real quick this time, because Sashier is a dream guest.

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Speaker 1: You'll see what I'm talking about. Let's just get into it.

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Speaker 1: Here's me talking to Sashier Zameida and with the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am joined this week by Sashier Zameida. Sashiir,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I am so good.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It's a rainy day in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: It's a rainy day, spooky day.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in ghosts. I don't know if I.

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Speaker 3: Consider them ghosts, but yeah, I guess like energy that

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Speaker 3: doesn't like leave this plane. I do believe in like

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Speaker 3: there's still being uh life here when life has gone.

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Speaker 2: I guess if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can get into that. Have you experienced that yourself?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have spent a lot of time in New Orleans,

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Speaker 3: which is just a haunted place, like straight up.

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Speaker 1: They know it, they love it.

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Speaker 3: I've definitely passed real estate signs like for sale signs

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Speaker 3: and they list on the board haunted.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, just so you know. People send me

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Speaker 1: that all the time, And yeah, I think it's great

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Now where would you be on that?

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Speaker 3: I would be on uh, absolutely not. I don't want

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Speaker 1: You're not paying rent, yeah, and they come and go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like a fun idea, but it's

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I was there with my partner at the time

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Speaker 3: anyone do mushrooms in New Orleans because it already has

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Speaker 3: so much energy that you don't need to enhance that.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, we were on mushrooms that day and having

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Speaker 3: And then I remember we passed a busker who was

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Speaker 2: And then it started getting dark.

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Speaker 3: Energy started shifting, and then things that we thought were

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Speaker 3: And I remember we were on a royal street on

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Speaker 2: Like it was not working. We were like, we should stop.

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Speaker 2: And he was like, that's what I felt too, But.

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Speaker 1: Like trying to start a ghost thrupple.

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Speaker 3: Yes, trying to start out orgy. Yeah, it was quite unnerving.

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Speaker 3: I was like, it is the ghost following me being like,

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we didn't do anything. I was just watching. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I don't know if that means like someone

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Speaker 1: I do not know. Oh I don't like that. But

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking today, this is a good idea.

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Speaker 1: two best friends. The one is like they're not they're

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Speaker 1: You said it was mushrooms, right, Yeah, I never have

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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah. I was in New York.

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Speaker 3: I drank mushroom tea, and I was also doing this

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Speaker 1: I definitely think that there's people that do a lot

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Speaker 3: It just feel like it's opening up your third eye

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Speaker 1: Now, this is where we do this is this podcast, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the dem Men multiverse kind of thing where it's like,

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Speaker 1: And sometimes we get these little blips of that we

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Speaker 2: Totally and there's like science behind it.

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Speaker 3: There's like little things occasionally opop up in the news

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Speaker 2: It's funny. My friend Nicole Bayer, who has done.

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Speaker 1: The show better on the show, Yeah, yeah, lover.

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Speaker 3: The mushroom story I'm talking about in Brooklyn, she met

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Speaker 3: She is the best person to have around when you're

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Speaker 3: We were like, you just look like a mermaid, and

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Speaker 1: So when you were growing up, did you have any

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Speaker 3: I was raised very Christian Baptist m so my mom

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Speaker 3: The brush across the face didn't make sense, and spiders

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Speaker 1: No, it's not. I feel like angels are like ghosts

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Speaker 3: Which is actually a think statistic. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: And it's not.

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Speaker 3: That rumor was actually an experiment to see how fast

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Speaker 3: rumors can spread, So someone just made that statistic up.

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Speaker 3: It's not like our esophagus doesn't work when we're sleeping.

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Speaker 3: Like if a spider did try to crawl down our throats,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like the magic school bus. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: thinking about your story, like the angels like tapping tap

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's trying multiple things, like, oh, I guess you

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you about story I researched. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: called the Dover demon Ooh you ever hear of it?

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Speaker 1: It's a Massachusetts kind of urban legend cryptid creature. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about that phenomena of like a bigfoot? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now lockness.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are like so many creatures that like

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Speaker 1: I know, So I'm like, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure someone saw thought it was like a monster

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Speaker 1: I think what's so fun about those is that, if

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Speaker 1: There's like something about them where they're like i'll give

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Speaker 3: They're not like deer that are everywhere. They're just like,

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Speaker 3: oh oh, I don't want you to really look at.

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Speaker 1: Me, publicity whore. Those deers thirsty.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking for work. Okay. Well, the Dover Demon

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Speaker 1: from WBSM dot com, which is the website of fourteen

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Speaker 1: twenty WBSM New Bedford's news talk station. So nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: He said the sighting only lasted about seven to eight seconds,

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Speaker 2: WHOA.

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Speaker 1: Some people think that it was a baby moose or

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Speaker 3: But it can't be like well I guess it, not

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Speaker 3: I guess a dog can be on its high legs.

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Speaker 3: But the part about it's standing on two legs doesn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen it. There's a dog I follow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you see this dog, but there's

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Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Also, animals are so rude to

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Speaker 1: you don't have any horns, the family's gonna be like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the moose is just on it. It's like this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are still talking about her. It's like fifty

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Speaker 1: years later. Anyway, Hey, can I show you a haunted

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Speaker 1: eBay doll?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living. Okay, So here's

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Speaker 1: what I do. I go to eBay and I type

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Speaker 1: in the words haunted doll, and to many people's surprise,

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Speaker 1: there are thousands of listings every day. This one I

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Speaker 1: have found is named Bethina. Jiha. Could you show us

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Speaker 1: Bethina please? Oh boy. Bethina is going for fifty dollars,

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Speaker 1: which is i'd say an average price for a haunted doll. Okay,

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Speaker 1: she is kind of a baby doll, got on a

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Speaker 1: kind of a cute dress, velvet red. Something that sticks

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Speaker 1: out to me about Bethina's head is that the sides

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Speaker 1: of it, it's like she has like a ridge around

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Speaker 1: like an empanada or something like or like a pot

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Speaker 1: It's like it feels, yeah, she's got a potsticker head.

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Speaker 3: Which, yeah, it feels like there's no division between the

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Speaker 2: It's all smooth into a point.

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Speaker 1: She looks sweet, you know, she does look sweet. Looks

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Speaker 1: like a sweet, young baby doll, which is deceiving. Don't

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Speaker 1: be fooled. Yeah, which Bethina no offense to anyone if

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Speaker 1: you're listening, and that's your name, but it's not the

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Speaker 1: cutest name I've ever heard.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, it does sound like a haunted name.

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Speaker 3: It really sounds like, of course, Bethina is a haunted doll.

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Speaker 1: Well, these all come with biographies. Oh, this one's kind

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Speaker 1: of long, but I'll give you some of the highlights.

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Speaker 1: It says, meet Bethina. This doll is unlike any other

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Speaker 1: haunted item you may come across in your lifetime. No,

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Speaker 1: this is not your run of the mill's spiritual encounter.

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Speaker 1: Bethina is a whole other level of creepiness. From the

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Speaker 1: moment this doll entered my life, I have felt an

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Speaker 1: overwhelming sense of terror and unease. Strange occurrences have plagued

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Speaker 1: night to objects moving on their own accord. And I

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Speaker 1: swear I have seen the eyes of Bethina follow me

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Speaker 1: as I move about the room. I fear for my

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Speaker 1: Bethina in my home. They go on to blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: They've did some like sessions to try to talk to her.

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Speaker 1: It turns out she is very negative. In the night,

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Speaker 1: I have heard horrid groans and whispers coming from her,

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Speaker 1: has been known to scratch wood surfaces. Hell no, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting my deposit back. On more than one occasion,

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Speaker 1: I have found deep, deliberate scratch marks in my furniture.

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Speaker 1: Hell no, oh no. And I have no doubt that

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Speaker 1: from this doll. Yeah, and I'm like, often I feel

436
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: when these dolls sound like true nightmares. Just give it

437
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: to a thrift store or burn it. I don't know.

438
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Why are you saying I need fifty bucks for this? Oh?

439
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: Interesting, I guess because there are people who want that,

440
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: I guess.

441
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: But you're also being like, just so you know, it's horrible. Yeah,

442
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: it's very negative and it will ruin your furniture.

443
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: But maybe if they just gave it away to goodwill,

444
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: they feel like irresponsible because some unknowing person is just

445
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: gonna pick it up and take it home and now'

446
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: have like moans and groans when they're trying to go

447
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: to sleep and scratch up furniture.

448
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is it could be maybe this

449
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: doll just doesn't like you. Haha. Maybe this doll doesn't

450
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: like your furniture.

451
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: I thought that was an interesting point when they were like,

452
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: we tried to talk to her, and she's very negative.

453
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: She has a bad attitude.

454
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: What uugh what I hate this chair? It is ugly.

455
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: Well that's Pathena. Wow.

456
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: Have you met or talked to people who actively seek

457
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: out these dolls, like, who actively buy these dolls?

458
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: I do know one person.

459
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know her well, but she does buy haunted

460
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: dolls to keep in her home.

461
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: Tell me about this.

462
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, like if anything's happened, but I think

463
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: there's like some sort of like hunt or like this

464
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 3: like collector's urge to get to get multiple haunted dolls.

465
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's almost like having a pet or something.

466
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: I think, just.

467
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: A little more finicky.

468
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be. Some of them sound great. Yeah,

469
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: you know, I read a lot of these bios and

470
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: I get tempted sometimes. I'm like, that sounds like my

471
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: kind of person. They sound fun. We like the same

472
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of things. But I know a few people that

473
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: are into this kind of a thing, and it's usually

474
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: I will say eBay. It's one of these things like

475
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, certain dating apps that seem like they're

476
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: for hookups or whatever. And sometimes I'll talk to people

477
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I don't go on that. Everyone

478
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: on there they just want this or that, And I'm like, well,

479
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe you don't know that. If you're going to be

480
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: on there, maybe somebody like with the same mindset as

481
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: you could be on there, like you just never know.

482
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: M And I feel that way about eBay sometimes, where

483
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: it's like it has a bad reputation because I think

484
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of just like garbage people make up,

485
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: fake ghost stories whatever. Yeah, but I think there could

486
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: be some good ones on there. I think there's some

487
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: gems you never know what you're gonna get. But most

488
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: of the people I know that have these kinds of things,

489
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: it's usually more from like someone had it and gave

490
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: it to that someone reached out because they knew these

491
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: people were into it, or you know, yeah, that's sort

492
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: of a thing.

493
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: Actually, another time I was in New Orleans, I was

494
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: with a friend. We went to a voodoo priestess shop

495
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: and she helped us make voodoo dolls. It was just

496
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 3: for like kicks right, but I wish before we made

497
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: it she explained what she explained to us after we

498
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 3: made it, oh, which is, these voodoo dolls are in

499
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: your likeness, so you do have to take care of them.

500
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: If you don't take care of them, it's like you're

501
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: not taking care of yourself. And if you don't want

502
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: that responsibility, you can't just throw them away or destroy

503
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: them because that will also affect your life. You have

504
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: to like ceremoniously dismember them or something, which she did

505
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: not explain.

506
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: And that is five hundred dollars.

507
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and she's like, thank you so much for coming,

508
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: please recommend me. So we had these dolls, and I

509
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: had both of them for some reason when we left

510
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: New Orleans, and I just like had them in a

511
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: plastic bag in the corner of my room, like not

512
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: thinking about it.

513
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: And months went by.

514
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: It's not like a lot of terrible things happened to me,

515
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: but just like I just didn't feel good. Life didn't

516
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: feel like fun. And I remember talking to my friend

517
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: being like, how do you feel. She's like kind of shitty, actually,

518
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: like I feel like trash. And I was like, do

519
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: you think our voodoo dolls have anything? To do with

520
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: this since they're literally in the plastic bag being treated

521
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: like trash, and so I took them out of there,

522
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: and then I googled what to do with these voodoo

523
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: dolls if you don't want to like take care of them,

524
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: because like also the priestess was like, you have to

525
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: water them, you have to like give them good affirmations.

526
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: And sometimes the action you do to the voodoo doll

527
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: correlates with what you want in your life. So it's like,

528
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: if you want more money, you would put a penny

529
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: in its stomach or something, okay, Or if you want

530
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: more love or something, you would like put a flower

531
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: in the heart space, or if you need help with

532
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: like speaking or something, you would like do something with

533
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: its mouth.

534
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: It was all like your body correlating with this doll.

535
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: So I was googling what to do with these dolls

536
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: if you don't want to actively take care of them,

537
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: and someone was like, wrap them up in a white

538
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: towel and put sea salt on them just so they

539
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: could be dormant and chill out for a minute. So

540
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: I did that and like gently put them in a towel,

541
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: put salt in them, put them in a drawer, and

542
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: then someone else was like, yeah, I didn't do anything

543
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: with my doll, and I got fired.

544
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: It ruined my marriage.

545
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: Like they like talked about how it just destroyed everything

546
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: in their life, and they tried to send the doll

547
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: back to the shop, but they weren't allowed to, and

548
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: so then they did ask how to dismember it, and

549
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: they like had to go to the woods and involved

550
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 3: like submerging it in a creek and like taking it,

551
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: taking it apart one by one. And I was like,

552
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't have time for that right now, but I

553
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: will just leave it in a towel. And then when

554
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: I saw my friend again, I gave her her doll

555
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: because I was like, I don't want to be responsible

556
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: for your life. And then yeah, and then I kept

557
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: my doll and then I just I just took it

558
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: out and like put it like in a very visible space.

559
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: And also it's ugly. It's just like twigs bundled together

560
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: and like felt pieces and button eyes. Like it looked

561
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: scary and weird. It's not an attractive thing to have

562
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: out for people to see. But I was like, she

563
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: needs to be seen. She's angry. And then there was

564
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: a moment where I was house hunting for a house

565
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: in LA and I was like talking to all my

566
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: witchy friends. I was like, please burn candles, do what

567
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: you gotta do to help me get a house. And

568
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: I found the house that I wanted, but like everyone

569
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: else else wanted that house, like there was sixteen bids

570
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: up for it, and I got the voodoo doll. And

571
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: I was like, look, I didn't want to bother you,

572
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: but I really want this house. If you have any pull,

573
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: if there's any energy you have, please help me, help

574
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: the universe get me this house. And I did get

575
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: the house. So now this voodoo doll lives in an

576
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: altar next to the door.

577
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Good. She deserved it.

578
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: She deserves it. She has a comfy couch to sit on.

579
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: It's like a tiny little felt couch.

580
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Stop. Yes, because I was.

581
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, I don't know if you helped

582
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: or if there's other factors, but I did use you.

583
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: I did actually ask for your help, and I have

584
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: the house. So I'm gonna choose to believe that you

585
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: had something to do with this.

586
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her believe that too. Yes, I thought

587
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: you were gonna say that you like went to like

588
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: an open house and like hit her brought hit her

589
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: in there because then she's in the house and.

590
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: Then yeah, you know, and she's like, my owner has

591
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: to come with me.

592
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. So I mean I think that you should

593
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: just keep taking good care of that thing. Yeah.

594
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: Occasional, I'll just like thank her for things.

595
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I would be given a massages, you know. Yeah, I

596
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: should be giving her more staff, more water. Can I

597
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices? Yeah, okay, it's time for

598
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: EVP or ev pase. Have you ever heard the term EVP.

599
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: No, I haven't.

600
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: It stands for electronic voice phenomenal. Okay. It's basically like

601
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: in ghost hunting, when people believe they've captured a ghost speaking,

602
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: it could be any kind of audio recording, and people

603
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: not unlike eBay, they go on YouTube, TikTok wherever, and

604
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: they go, look at, guys, I have captured a ghost speaking.

605
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: So I have found two examples of that, and I'm

606
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: going to play them for you, and I would love

607
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: if you could tell me what you hear. Then I'll

608
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: give you a couple of options, the correct answer being

609
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: what the ghost hunter believes the ghost is saying. Okay,

610
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: So this first one was posted by STD Paranormal, New Jersey.

611
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what that stands for, but that is

612
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: what their name is. And they recorded this in Clifton,

613
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: New Jersey. What is this ghost saying? Oh, I'm not

614
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Not the best one I've ever heard. Yeah.

615
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what was happening.

616
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wait, let me do it again. I can

617
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: hear a.

618
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a difference between the static and something, but

619
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: I can't really make out words.

620
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you some options.

621
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

622
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 1: Was it A I need protection? Was it B I

623
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be a ghost? Was it C I'm

624
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: right next to you? Or d oh oh oh Riley Okay,

625
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: it's one of those. Let me play it again.

626
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Really feels like O'Riley.

627
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: They believe it is a I need protection.

628
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Well, of course STD ghosts whatever would say that.

629
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, standing next to that person, they probably do need protection.

630
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, now that we know that, let's listen again.

631
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Oh I do hear it now.

632
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I could trick my brain, yes into

633
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: thinking that. But could I pull that out of thin air? No? No, STD,

634
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: You've been tested and it did not go well. Okay.

635
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: This next one is from Mia paranormal Okay, they love

636
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: three letters.

637
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge.

638
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: In the paranormal world. Or this might be Mia the

639
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: recording artist. This was recorded at Stonewall Jail in what

640
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I believe to be Stonewall, Ontario, Canada. Okay, what is

641
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: it saying? Now that one? I feel like I can

642
00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: actually hear a voice. Yeah, definitely, we played again, No, no, yeah,

643
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: let me do it again. Hm hmmm, an he guesses.

644
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: I feel like saying where is it? Or something? M?

645
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: Do they lose something? Someone?

646
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Okay? Do they think it was a relevant? B? We're

647
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: not kids? C what is it? Or d redder lip?

648
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Like you use a redder lip like I like your makeup,

649
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: but but.

650
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: Just a little a little more.

651
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Okay, it's one of those. Let me play it again.

652
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what is it?

653
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: Because I already did think it was like asking a

654
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: question like where is it?

655
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

656
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what is it? Yeah? That's what they think.

657
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: I can kind of hear it. What is it?

658
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: Are they being bothered or like?

659
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? I'm a guy? What

660
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Let's do one last thing. I just

661
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: want to hear some more of your thoughts. I'll just

662
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: list off a bunch of supernatural paranormal phenomena and maybe

663
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: you got a thought about it or maybe a story.

664
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: You never know what comes up. Okay, what about psychics?

665
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: Where are you at on that I'm into them?

666
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: I actually just spoke to a psychic days ago.

667
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Stop.

668
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a animal communicator.

669
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh, because my current partner had to put her cat down,

670
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: which is very sad.

671
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh, but before he was.

672
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 3: Moving on, we wanted to speak to him and get

673
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: his thoughts, see if he knows what's happening. And the

674
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: communicator was really good and had very little information from us.

675
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: We didn't say like really much at all, or like

676
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: what was happening with a cat or anything. And she

677
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: was like, yes, the cat is aware that like this

678
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: is the last day and feels like very tired and

679
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: ready and feels like he's had a really good life.

680
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: He's lived a lot of life in the fourteen years

681
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: he's been on this earth and hasn't liked everybody, but

682
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 3: really likes his owner. And then he mentioned me, which

683
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: is so sweet, as I was like, I don't this

684
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: is not my cat. I've been around for a little bit,

685
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: but that like is not my cat, so I wasn't

686
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: expecting to get a shout out, but I did, and

687
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I really like you and I

688
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: consider you family and we have a deep friendship.

689
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god.

690
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: I was so sweet.

691
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: And then the cat was like kind of like really

692
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: sassy actually, And my partner was like, how do you

693
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: feel about the dogs in the house, like your brothers,

694
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: your the other dogs in your space?

695
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: And he was like, I didn't think we needed them.

696
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: I have some notes, Yeah they are allowed, and I

697
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: really don't feel like I needed to be around them.

698
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: And we were like, but like you enjoyed them, right,

699
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: He's like, no comment, Like I was enough for three animals,

700
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: My energy was enough for three pets.

701
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: You really didn't need to have other pets in here.

702
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, this is my last day here. I

703
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: don't need to start a bunch of drama. But let

704
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: me just say they were not for me. No, not needed.

705
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: But I guess they were fine if you wanted them,

706
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: but I didn't need them.

707
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: Where did you find this person, like from a recommendation

708
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: or did you guys just say yeah, okay.

709
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: One of my close friends uses a pet communicator regularly

710
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: because she fosters dogs, and so she wants to know

711
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: like what they went through and then what will make

712
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: them comfortable and how are they getting along with the

713
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: other dogs in the house. So she recommended this communicator,

714
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: and yeah, she was really good.

715
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: Have you been to human communicator psychics?

716
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: I haven't yet. I mean, I guess I have been

717
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: to a psychic.

718
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: I guess I haven't been to like a medium or

719
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: someone who can speak to a person, But yeah, I

720
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: have been to a psychic. Actually, in New Orleans, there's

721
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: this like named Philip who I see every time I

722
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: go through there. I feel like every couple of years

723
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: I see him and he's just like my uncle where

724
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I did this, and he's like I.

725
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Know, Like he's like I knew that already. Yep, He's

726
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: like I did know that already. Yeah, he's great.

727
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: The first time I saw him, he did like a

728
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: palm reading and then a tario reading and kind of

729
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: like predicted like my three month journey six months and

730
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: then nine months, and he wrote it on a piece

731
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: of paper and I took it and put it away somewhere,

732
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: and then I think like a year later, looked back

733
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: at it, and was like, oh wait, all these things

734
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: happened and I can't remember all of them, but I

735
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: know what one for sure. He was like, in six months,

736
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: you will leave a father figure, or like you'll disconnect

737
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: from a father figure. And I was like, I wonder

738
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: what that means, because like my dad and I were

739
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: not like close.

740
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't think I'm going to

741
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: cut him off.

742
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: But I did fire my first manager within that time,

743
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: who I had for like four years, and he was

744
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: an older man and not that he was my father,

745
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: but like he was like one of the first people

746
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: in the business to be like you, like I'm gonna

747
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: help you, and you're I think you're talented.

748
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: And he did help me.

749
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: But then there came a time where I felt like

750
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: I needed to move on to someone else, and uh yeah.

751
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: It was very interesting to be like, oh wow, that's

752
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: what he meant, and that.

753
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Was like dead on damn. Yeah, he's very good at

754
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. This was a hearty answer. I thought I

755
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: was just gonna get like, yeah, I believe in psychics.

756
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: That was great, this is this is what we crave

757
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: around here. Okay, I'll just ask like two more then,

758
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: what do you think about UFOs.

759
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think they're definitely real, so does NASA,

760
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: so does the Air Force.

761
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: But do you think that they're aliens? Like, do you

762
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: think that they are humanoid creatures?

763
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: I don't know they're humanoid, but I do believe in aliens. Yeah, yeah,

764
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: cause it's kind of silly to think that we are

765
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: the only things that exist in this universe. Like, of

766
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: course there's other beings and other planets that are existing

767
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: and probably have been here and might be here right now.

768
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: I did a UFO tour in Sedona, because of course

770
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: that's what you do.

771
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, here we go. We got more. I

772
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: did that too. Yeah, was it with one lady?

773
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: It was with one lady. I can't remember her name exactly.

774
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: This might have been the same one I went on.

775
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: Probably we went to like this parking lot and then

776
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: like looked at the mountaintops.

777
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I have talked about this on the show before,

778
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: and I've never talked to anyone that has been to

779
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: this woman. Did she say that she's been abducted many times? Yes,

780
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: I can't believe we have this in comment. Okay, tell

781
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: me about your experience.

782
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, she gave us this, like really intense.

783
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Very expensive. Yeah, like night vision binoculars.

784
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and was explaining like this is what you look

785
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: for if if you see a plane, that's what that is,

786
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: or like the blinking lights probably a satellite or something,

787
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: and then anything else moving in the sky is unidentified,

788
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 3: it's a UFO. And there was tons, tons of them, Yeah,

789
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: just flying all over the sky and then landing on

790
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: this one mountain side. And she was like, yeah, sometimes

791
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: they just like all land over there just to like

792
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: commune and like hang out, check out what's going on

793
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: in town. And I was like, I guess they're having

794
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: an active night. There's like a lot of them just

795
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: like hanging out over there on that mountain. It wasn't

796
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: even just her. We ran into so many people who

797
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: were like, oh, yeah, aliens, come here.

798
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: I have been abducted. That's what happens here.

799
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like really active. When I went yeah, I

800
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: want to say that woman is like I don't know

801
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: if she says you'll see a UFO or your money back,

802
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: but she's very confident that you will see UFOs. Yeah.

803
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about what's up there. So I'm like, Okay,

804
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: this lady says it that it is, and I saw things.

805
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of them like landing on a mountain,

806
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: but I saw them like start and stop and like

807
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: go in different directions and like.

808
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.

809
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I feel like one of my friends is like telling me, now,

810
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no way that's some like Elon Musk situation

811
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: up there and it's not like an actual UFO. Yeah,

812
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: satellites and whatever. But then the lady told me that

813
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: she would come on my podcast, and I called her,

814
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I texted her, I emailed her, and I'm convinced that

815
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: she is up there. They took her and she is

816
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: good to go. She's like, this is what I wanted

817
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: the whole time.

818
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: I feel like she, of all people, would be so

819
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: excited to tell her story and everything she's learned about UFOs.

820
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: So if she's not returning your calls, she has but

821
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: taking up there.

822
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, what do you think of like synchronousities,

823
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: like when things happen in life that are some would

824
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: say a coincidence. Do you think that it's a coincidence?

825
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: Do you read into it?

826
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: I feel like it's like the universe or like things

827
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: that were supposed to happen that way. Yeah, I don't

828
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 3: really think things are just like WHOA crazy. I can't

829
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: believe that happened like that. It's like, I think it

830
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 3: was meant to happen that way, Like there's already there's

831
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: already been a thing decided that this will be how

832
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: this plays out. So I guess fate or something or destiny.

833
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: It feels like those moments don't feel like a coincidence

834
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: to me. It feels like, oh, this is what was written.

835
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: I like that. I agree with you on that. I

836
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: was just thinking, now, listen, you've done a bajillion things

837
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: in your career, but of course around certain I'm alive. Yeah.

838
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Is thirty Rock haunted?

839
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: Oh that's a really good question. I would believe it

840
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: if someone said it was. I have never seen or

841
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: heard any activity that felt like paranormal.

842
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: But it's the old building. It feels like it would

843
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: be haunted. Yeah, it's like it feels like the kind

844
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: of place where people would have stories. Yeah, but I

845
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever heard any I don't.

846
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: Think I have either, But I would not be surprised

847
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: because like so much of it's untouched, so much of

848
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: it's like the same carpet like the same, the same

849
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 3: windows like.

850
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: It's just like feels like a very storied space.

851
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: So I would not be surprised, but I personally haven't

852
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: experienced anything there.

853
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, Sasure, this has been truly magical. Yes, I did

854
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: not know that you were going to have this many stories.

855
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Honestly I didn't either, but I feel like I surprised

856
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: myself where I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I do

857
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: have a lot of thoughts about this or I have

858
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: experienced this.

859
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: It's great. This is an ideal guest situation here. Can

860
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: you tell people where to find you and what you

861
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: got going on?

862
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, all my socials, my Instagram, Twitter is at the

863
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: Sheer Truth, and I have a stand up special that

864
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: I put out. It's on YouTube. It's called The First Woman.

865
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: And if you like magic paranormal stuff, I have a

866
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: whole section about witches.

867
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: In there that's really fun.

868
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: Woo. Yeah, we got a lot of witch listeners.

869
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you will love my special. Go watch it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm a podcast with a Nicole Buyer called best

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Speaker 3: Friends that comes out every Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, thanks so much for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Take good care of your voodoo doll.

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Speaker 2: I will thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Sashier Zameto. What an episode.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt Meky bye.

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and Twitter at it's roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 1: producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising

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Speaker 1: Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by the spine

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Speaker 1: Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac

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Speaker 1: photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced by the

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Speaker 1: chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia Hart's Dark, and the

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