1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: three and today we're back with another Rut Fresh Radio episode, 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: which means we are hearing from deer hunters all across 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: the country about the latest deer activity, current conditions, and 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: to the Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: We're here for rut Fresh Radio, which is our mini 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: series getting up to date reports from all across the country. 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: And you know the name is rut Fresh. We're here. 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: We finally are going to get to see the rut 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: that is in our name. Hopefully, I'm hoping that's what 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: WE'RENNA talking about today, Spencer, some rut related intel, some 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: rut related activity reports, because between now in our next episode, 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: sweet November is going to begin, and that's what we 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: all dream of all year. So here we are. That's right. 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff you're gonna hear talk about in 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: this week's episode is pre rut seeking and chasing. Why 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: scrapes are awesome to look at. Right now, you know 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: how these mature bucks are gonna start making their extended 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: walk about all that stuff that you associate with the 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: end of October and why, like data driven hunters really 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: love this time of year. Um, But we're gonna talk 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: about that in our interviews, Mark, something that I don't 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: touch on with too many of our guests this week, 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: but I would love for you to talk about and 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: go into, you know, like some detail on is the 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: rutting moon and how that's coming up and you know 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: what certain hunters believe that does to buck movement. Man, 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: this is such a funny topic, Spencer, because I like 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: to keep tabs and and and pay attention to it 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. But I also feel a little bit 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: guilty talking about it too much because I don't want 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: to be misleading. Uh. And we've written about it, we've 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: put it out there. But but here's the basic gist. 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: The basic gist is that all the research out there 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: shows that the breeding phase for white tailed deer is 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: primarily triggered by photo period, which is the amount of 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: daylight in the twenty four hour period, which is consistent 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: by region year after year. After years. So basically that 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: means that where I hunt in Michigan, the average peak 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: of breeding, the main time frames that that kicks off 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: the rut that is going to be the same every year. 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: For for here, it's around mid November is when the 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: if you imagine the number of deer that are breeding, 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: if you were to map that out and graphic, you'd 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: have a bell curve, you'd have of some very small 50 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: number that are breeding in you know, October, and then 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna slowly rise through November and then somewhere around 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: the fift or sixteenth or somewhere in that ballpark will 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: be the highest number of deer that are getting bred, 54 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna slowly go down the further back. 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: So you know, across most parts of the country, that 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: is the case, give ord move that peak you know 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: this way or that way a little bit um And 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: that essentially negates any other theories related to the moon, 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: like the running moon theory, as far as do these 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: things does the moon somehow impact the timing of the rut? Uh, 61 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: It's it's categorically not true that these other things impact 62 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the timing of the actual breeding phase. But what there 63 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: maybe some truth too, is whether or not things like 64 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: whether like temperatures or the moon might impact how much 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: of the related activity we actually see. So there's there's 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: two different things we're talking about here. There's actual breeding 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: that's going on, and then there's the rutting activity that 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: we as hunters want to see, which is chasing, seeking, 69 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: cruising bucks, you know, moving around a lot. That's the 70 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of stuff we want to see, and that's the 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that happens. You know, some years it 72 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: happens all day, every day. Some years you don't see 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: it as much, or some years you see it like 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: crazy in the early part of the month, and then 75 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: for some reason it doesn't seem to be quite as 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: quite as uh as action packed the second week maybe, 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: and you can be stuck wondering, like, what happened? Why 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: was the ruts so awesome this year? Were not so 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: good the next year? Um? Why is that the case? 80 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: When supposedly the rest supposed to be happening at the 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: same time and it is happening the same time. There's 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: just a bunch of different factors that can influence what 83 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: you see. So maybe the moon is one of those things. 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Maybe temperature is are one of those things. Um, hunting 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: pressure could be one of those things. And then where 86 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: you're actually sitting could be a big thing too, which 87 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: should go without saying. But you can be sitting on 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: one side of a property and see zero running activity 89 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: for three days straight, and then you could sit yards 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: away on the other side of a property and there 91 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: might be stuff going bananas for three days. That's how 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: location dependent running activity can be sometimes. So this is 93 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: a long winded way of trying to put a qualifier 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: and what I'm about to tell you, which is there 95 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: are a series of different theories around the moon and 96 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: what kind of impact it may have on this rut 97 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: time period. And so the rutting moon theory which you 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: brought up is one that was popularized by Charles L. 99 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Sheimer Um and Wayne I think Wayne laroche Um. They 100 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: published it every year and Deer and Deer Hunting magazine. 101 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Basic gist is that supposedly the second full moon after 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: the autumn equinox is what kick starts this running activity 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: and then from there, you know, you've got that seeking 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and chasing stuff that picks up, and then you know 105 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: the peak of breeding and the lockdown face should happen 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks after that or something somewhere along 107 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: those lines. Um. So, I don't know if that. I 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: don't know what to think about that, because I still 109 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: look at the science that states that the peak breedings 110 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: happened at the same time. But I do wonder like 111 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe the timing of that moon does influence like how 112 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: hectic and crazy the daylight portion of that is. So 113 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: all that's kind of leading us to the to the 114 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: idea that you alluded to, which is that the running 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: moon this year is on October thirty one. So the 116 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: theory goes that when the running moon lines up with 117 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the same time period that we typically think of as 118 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: good running activity, which for most people, if you have 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: a peak breeding date of November fifteen, give or take, 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: usually it's those two weeks preceding that, give or take 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: where you see the most chasing, cruising, seeking, YadA, YadA, YadA. 122 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: So I historically, I'm thinking, like Halloween to the four 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: November is is the best part of the year for 124 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: me as far as running activity, and the running moon 125 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: happens to fall right at the beginning of that kind 126 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: of perfectly in sync. So according to these guys, when 127 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: that happens, you should see like the best possible rut um, 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the worst case scenarios when that running moon is like 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: super duper late. Then suppose that you have something they 130 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: referred to as a trickle rut um. I don't I'm 131 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: not gonna stand by any of this stuff. All I'm 132 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna say is that it is interesting and if you 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: do believe in it, it's pointing to good things for 134 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: this year. Um. Now, there are a series of other 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: rut related movement theories on the moon. We've talked about 136 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: these throughout the rest of the year, so I won't 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: spend too much time on them. But basically, you've got 138 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: some people that think that when the moon is rising 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: or setting in daylight right towards the end of the 140 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: day a or towards the beginning of the day, that's 141 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: a good thing. And this happens around the full moon. 142 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: So the druries have talked about this, many people have 143 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: heard our podcast The Marcher, He's talked about this well 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: right now. They say that with that full moon hitting 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: on October thirty one, their belief is that we're gonna 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: have some particularly good evening hunts leading into the full 147 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: moon and then really good morning hunts after the full 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: moon because of that, but not so good in the 149 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: middle of the month. So uh, they just put out 150 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: a video over on their deer Cast app talking about 151 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: this where they believe that we're gonna have a particularly 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: good first part of the month of November. So this 153 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: this phase we're coming into right now, especially those mornings, 154 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: but you know when you get to that second or 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: third week, it might be a little wonky again. I 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I this is just what folks are saying. Um. And 157 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: then the final moon related thing would be those that 158 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: follow the red moon UM, which would be believing that 159 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: deer movement will pick up when the moon is directly 160 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: overhead or underfoot, and this year the overhead to underfoot 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: red moon days. I think the first one happens between 162 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: November three and the seventh. So somebody like Adam Hayes, 163 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: who's a big believer in this, he would tell you 164 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: that that's when the running activity is going to be 165 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: the very best. Um. It's a lot to try to 166 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: take it in process. I don't think anyone has done 167 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: a very good job of truly quantifiably uh correlated it 168 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: in a way other than just anecdote evidence. So I 169 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: always look at the calendar and I let that dictate 170 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: when I'm gonna hunt. That last week of October in 171 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: the first two weeks in November are hard to beat. Um. 172 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: If I have to pick my days more carefully, I'm 173 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna pick the colder days and the fronts um. But 174 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend every moment I can out there, because 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: anything is possible during the rut. And ladies and gentlemen, 176 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: it's here. I'm with you, Mark. You did a great 177 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: job there of going through all the different moon theories. Um. 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: And I've always likened like my stance on the moon 179 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: and your behavior as the same thing of how I 180 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: think about like big Foot. I am wildly interested in 181 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: stories about Bigfoot, and I will eat it up and 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I will consume like any TV show or article or 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: anything about Bigfoot. But I don't believe that he's real. 184 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with the moon and dear behavior. Um. 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this stelf. I look forward looking 186 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: at the moon phases every year, and I want to 187 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: know what the moon is gonna be doing, But ultimately 188 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't really change what I'm doing in the woods. Uh. 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think it changes dear behavior, so gun 190 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: to my head, No, I don't think bigfoot is real, 191 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: and no I don't think it's ever helped me kill 192 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: a deer or preventing me from killing a deer. Uh, 193 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: but it's still really like fun content to to take in, 194 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: uh and think about it. It's just like maybe another 195 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle for deer hunting. And and for 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: whatever it's worth. There are a lot of very good, 197 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: very successful deer hunters, that's whereby and they would tell 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: you and me that we're a couple of knuckleheads. So 199 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you take it for whatever it's worth, 200 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: and uh, if it helps you get out there, more 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: power to you. Um, I can tell you that moon regardless, 202 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: it's the time of year when you should be seeing 203 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: sign popping up like crazy, and you should see bucks 204 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: starting a cruise and checking out doors and starting to 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: bump them around and stuff. And that's what I've been 206 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: seeing over the last week. Um it is it is 207 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: ramping up big time. I'm seeing young bucks chasing a lot. 208 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm seeing those two year old starting to get out 209 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: looking around a bunch of cruising. I'm seeing sparring. I'm 210 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: seeing scrapes everywhere. Um, and and even even a couple 211 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: of daylight sighting slash trail camera picks of my target 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: mature buck. So he's on his feet already. So it's uh, 213 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: it's on in Michigan. Yeah, I mean, there's there's a 214 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: ton of reasons to love the end of October. Running 215 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: moon be damned like, there's gonna be seeking and chasing. Uh. 216 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: Signmaking is gonna peek here shortly. This is great time 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: to use a decoy or do some calling. Um. And 218 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: the coolest part is that the best is yet to come. 219 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe why I love the end of 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: October so much, because dear movement is great and it's 221 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: only gonna get better. Um. And that's what you're gonna 222 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: hear from the hunters we talked to this week. That 223 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: includes Mike Fitzgerald from bow Hunting dot Com in Minnesota, 224 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Trade Currents from Release Outdoors in West Virginia, Clay Nucombe, 225 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: the newest member of Meat Eater in Arkansas, and then 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: t j Ongar from the Virtue TV in Indiana. Awesome 227 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: sounds like a good slate. Are are you gonna be 228 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: able to get out in here anytime soon? Spencer. Yeah, Mark, 229 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: In a couple of days, I'm heading back to South Dakota. 230 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: I'll be there for about uh fourteen days or so, 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: and then when I get back, I have a couple 232 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: of weeks to fill my Montana tag. So the next 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: three weeks here, hopefully I have some more personal rought 234 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: updates for you. All right, man, Well, I'll be ended 235 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: it out in Michigan and hopefully we'll have a good 236 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: story as well. I'm I'm right there. I'm right on 237 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: the edge of it. He's he's there. He's just the 238 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: opposite place where I'm at. The old cat mouse came 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: a star already, Spencer. So um, we'll see alright, Mark, 240 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I think we get to our callers and I will 241 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: talk to you in November. Sounds good. All of this 242 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: week's interviews are presented by a Trophy Ridge. Make sure 243 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: to check out their full lineup of sites featuring their 244 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: React technology. After only two pin adjustments, React technology delivers 245 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: dead certain accuracy at any distance. I have a Trophy 246 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Ridge React Trio site and it's perfect for Western hunting, 247 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: white tail hunting, and everything in between. To see the 248 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: React Trio and everything else from the React Technology line 249 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: head over to Trophy Ridge dot com. Alright, and joining 250 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: us on the line next is Mike Fitzgerald from bow 251 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Die in Minnesota. Now, Mike in Minnesota, what would 252 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately on a 253 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. On the scale one to 254 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: tend the last week or so, I would I would 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: probably give it about a seven. It's been hot some days, 256 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: cold some other days. But we've definitely had an early 257 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: start to our winter. We've had snow on the ground 258 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: up here since the seventeenth. We're getting another three or 259 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: four inches right now, so it looks a lot more 260 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: like late November than it does lay October. But after 261 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: that first snowfall about a day or two later, there 262 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: was a two days stretch about the nineteenth and twenties 263 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: where all my cameras just lit up daytime buck activity. 264 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: They were out cruising hard then. So it's been it's 265 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: been good. There's been a couple of flow days in between. 266 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: But we're we're on that ramp up of of when 267 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: you have time to get in the woods, get in 268 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the woods, when you have winter come early in the 269 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: big woods. How does that change things for food sources 270 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: as we get into the rut. Well, as we approached 271 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: the ruts were you know, generally getting close to transition 272 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: time up here anyway. But when it comes this early 273 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: um where I'm already seeing doe groups kind of shift 274 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: where they're at, they're already transitioning to mostly woody brows. Um. 275 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, the late fall. A lot of times you'll see, 276 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: especially as the rut approaches, you'll see a lot of 277 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: deer along the ditches and mediums feeding on that grass, 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and that grass is already buried and they're already kind 279 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: of moving away from those and getting into their kind 280 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of winter hots. The nice thing about the snow is 281 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: you can utilize it to your advantage, and you know, 282 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: you know where they've been and how how far or 283 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: how long ago they were there. So it's a it's 284 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a good tool to have, UM, even though it's kind 285 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: of it seems harsh that it's happening already. Are you 286 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of signmaking right now in northern Minnesota. 287 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I've been seeing a few rubs here and there. Uh, 288 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: scraped activity for me has been really low this year. Uh, 289 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: that could very well just be my little pocket, but 290 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I haven't found much evidence of fresh scraping um so far, 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: and with the snow cover again, I'm not entirely sure 292 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: if that has a big impact on how much scraping 293 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: they'll do. Um, But I don't want the snow hits 294 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: the ground. I rarely find scrapes in our area here. 295 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: When you're hunting the big woods, will you do any 296 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: calling or decoying like hunters in the Midwest or is 297 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: that not a tactic that you use. It certainly a 298 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: technic you can use. I tend to be a little 299 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: cautious about it, um, But calling in particular, I don't 300 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: like to blind call a whole lot um. When the 301 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: rut really gets going um and they're most receptive to rattling, 302 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: I'll do that sometimes, but when it comes to grunting 303 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: and bleating most of the time, I'm only doing that 304 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: if I lay my eyes on deer and I'm trying 305 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to get them to change their path. Um. It's just 306 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: up here, I could be I could have deer thirty 307 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: yards for me and not really know they're there until 308 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: they step out into my shooting lanes. And so I 309 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: don't like to I don't like to surprise anything that 310 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: I that I know or don't know, maybe looking at me. 311 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: So I tend to lay off of calling unless I 312 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: have the deer in my sights. But Dave, I've had 313 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: a few bucks responding already um to some light drunting. 314 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: So it's definitely a tactic I use. But I don't 315 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: go in guns plays and that's for sure. You mentioned 316 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: that your trail cameras have been lighting up lately. Where 317 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: do you place a lot of your trail cameras during 318 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: pre rout a lot of the time, UM, My favorite 319 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: spot to have them are on ridgetops, either between or 320 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: near dough betting areas. UM. So if I find sick 321 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: cover that has a nice ridge run um going along it, 322 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of my a lot of my 323 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: cameras are these days. And that's certainly one of my 324 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: favorite cameras UM is in a spot just like that. 325 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: And that's the one that really lit up over Uh. 326 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, a two or three day chunk earlier in 327 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: the week, and I'm planning on hunting that in the 328 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: next day or two too, because I'm seeing some similar 329 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: conditions coming up weatherwise going forward. Then in this next 330 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that buck activity 331 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale of one to 332 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: ten in Minnesota. In northern Minnesota. Here, I definitely think 333 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: we're we're on the rise here, So I think in 334 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: eight or nine in this next week, I think once 335 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: this front comes through the net, a couple of days 336 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: will be golden. And then as we get through the 337 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: Halloween weekend, we're just getting closer and closer to the 338 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: main part of the routs, and it's it's hard to 339 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: convince me that it's not a good idea to be 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: in the woods at any point from this coming week on. Alright, Mike, well, 341 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: good luck and stay warm. Thanks for joining me. Thanks, thanks, 342 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: I have a good one, alright, and joining us on 343 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Trey Kerns in West Virginia from 344 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: Release Outdoors Now Trey in West Virginia. What would you 345 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on the scale 346 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd say it's been a four, 347 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: mainly just because of the abnormal warm weather we've had 348 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: in October. Um, it's been, you know, rather warm, and 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like this deer haven't really been on 350 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: their feet in the daylight hours, so it's been pretty minimal. 351 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: When do you expect to start seeing some mature bucks 352 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: moving in daylight. Then in West Virginia, I feel like 353 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: this weekend next week you're really gonna start transitioning. Um. 354 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: Really have been seeing some activity on the cell cameras 355 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: as far as deer starting to get closer to that 356 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: day like moving. But I feel like this weekend next 357 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: week it's really going to start picking up. Are you 358 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of signmaking right now? Yeah, things we're 359 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: getting pretty slow through the first half of Obtober, but 360 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: the later half have definitely picked up. And uh, I 361 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: feel like scrapes, um are really starting to get opened up. 362 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: And this week, UM, you know, I've seen a lot 363 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: of activity over the last week and this week over 364 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: the course of my cell camera activity UM on those scrapes. 365 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's really starting to pick up the movement. 366 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned that your cell cameras are on scrapes right now. 367 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Is that where you place most of your trail cameras 368 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: during pre route? Yeah, I mean that's where I try 369 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: to focus Spencer. I mean I just feel like, um, 370 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's my bread and butter towards the later 371 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: half of October, and having those cameras on those scrapes, 372 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: it really allows me to see, UM what deer in 373 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the area and then what you're also moving in So 374 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: it kind of gives me a good PenPoint and what 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm working towards these you know, next couple of weeks 376 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: that I call that really good period of time are 377 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: calling or decoying things you'll use in West Virginia and 378 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: what do those setups look like when you're doing that. 379 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: So not a whole lot of decoying, but UM as 380 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: far as like calling and sequencing, I've been doing a 381 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of that, and then UM rattling is a big thing. 382 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of progress and through rattling the 383 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years UM and and doing that. So 384 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: but I haven't really had the opportunity to do any 385 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: decoys and I don't think I really have or will 386 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: in West Virginia just based on the topography and how 387 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: things lie, we don't have a whole lot of acts. 388 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: So really focusing on just UM vocals and and and 389 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: communicating in that aspect really helps us out. With a 390 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: lack of egg what food sources are you then focused on? 391 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: So we've had a really good production of acorn mass 392 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: this year. Really trying to focus on UM white oaks 393 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: and and red oaks. And then also we try to 394 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: establish um some smaller plots and you know people call 395 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: those kill plots or whatever, but we just try to 396 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: establish a late season food source um to the later 397 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: half of the year. And then right now we're really 398 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: still focusing on acorn just because the mass production we 399 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: had this year was so large that we're trying to 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: just focus on that. And then over the next couple 401 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: of weeks will kind of transition into trying to get 402 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: on that downward side of those betting areas as well. 403 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Do you notice the shift in betting at all, whether 404 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: that's from bucks or doughes in West Virginia as we 405 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: approach November. I don't see a huge transition on where 406 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: they're changing their betting areas. I feel like, um, you know, 407 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: as a mature deer gets older, you know, it's it's 408 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: core area really shrinks down. So I think those deer 409 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: still betting in the same area. But you get them 410 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: hopefully on their feet um in daylight hours if you're 411 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, in the right spot and just try to 412 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: hunt that wind and uh, stay on the down one side, 413 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: because that's what those big bucks are gonna do. They're 414 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: gonna try to transition on the downward side of that 415 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: betting area and check for that hot dough. So that's 416 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of where we try to put ourselves in this 417 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: time of year. And if you can get those, it's 418 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: not those big communities gray, but those ones that are 419 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: really interior close to um, those big betting areas. That's 420 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of where we try to focus and kind of 421 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: meet somewhere in the middle there going forward. Then in 422 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: the next week or so, what do you think the 423 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: buckett is going to be on a scale of one 424 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: to ten in West Virginia. I think it's gonna be 425 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: a nine. I think it's really gonna pick up as 426 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: far as um. You know, scrapes are still getting opened up. 427 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: But I really think that the hot dough is gonna 428 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: come in more frequently. And I think those deer are 429 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: really gonna start moving around a little bit, and those 430 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: big bucks and mature deer are going to start transitioning 431 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: and checking those down one sides and really trying to 432 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: pen some beer down. So I think it's gonna be 433 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: really awesome. All right, Trey, have a good rout and 434 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: good luck. Thanks for joining me alright, Spencer, thank you alright, 435 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is the newest 436 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: member of the Meat Eater team, Clay nucom in Arkansas. 437 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Now Clay in Arkansas. What would you say the buck 438 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: activities been lately on a scale of one to ten, 439 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: so in the last couple of days, Spencer, I would 440 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: put it at a out six. And my reasoning is 441 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: is I've hunted a portion of almost every day for 442 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: about the last nine days. And yesterday afternoon was the 443 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: first time that I saw a mature buck tending the dough. 444 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean he was out at three thirty in the 445 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: afternoon and he was on that though. He wasn't dogging 446 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: her and chasing her. He was just he was just 447 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: with her, wasn't leaving her. And uh, that's the first 448 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: but your buck I've seen do that this year. With 449 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: how much you've been hunting lately, have you noticed any 450 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: difference in mornings versus evenings with one being better than 451 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: the other in late October, I have not noticed a 452 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: ton of difference between morning and evening. I really haven't. 453 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: Um it's the movement has been has been odd. We've 454 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: had some big rain events, like right now it's been 455 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: it's raining hard in Arkansas, and it's been raining hard 456 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: almost twenty four hours, and I think it's got the 457 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: deer moving in these breaks in the rain and uh 458 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: so the movement has been odd Like last night, the 459 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: last two hours after I saw that big buck, I 460 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: hardly saw any deer and I anticipated it's been great, 461 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: um but sawid deer movement early in the afternoon yesterday 462 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: that it was kind of a break in the rainfall. Clay, 463 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: I know that acorns are a big focus of your 464 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: haunts for not only deer, but turkeys and bear and 465 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: everything else in that part of the country. Tell us 466 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about how to identify the difference between 467 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: a red oak and a white oak and why that 468 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: matters to hunters. So this year in the Ozarks, all 469 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: this region, there's a ton of red oak acorns, and 470 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: uh white oak acrens are typically the preferred food source. 471 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Right now, if they are white oak acrens on the ground, 472 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: they're being preferred by all game and eating up relatively quickly. 473 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: This year, there's a ton of red oaks, I mean 474 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: the spotted oaks and schumart oaks. That's what we have 475 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: a lot of here are they're raining acrons. Man I 476 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: mean just carpets of acrons and that's what the deer 477 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: hitting on. And um. Yeah, So basically, a red oak 478 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: is gonna have pointed lobes, it's gonna have bristles, and 479 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: white oaks are gonna have rounded lobes. And those are 480 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: the two bigger categories of oaks that we have in 481 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: the Eastern US is white oaks red oaks. Inside of 482 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: both those categories, there are a lot of different species, 483 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: but the white oaks are almost always going to be 484 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: the preferred food source. Um. And but yeah, that's the 485 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: that's the easiest thing. Is pointed loab. Pointed points on 486 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: the tips of the leaves means red oak. Rounded lobes 487 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: means white oak during pre rot and rout in the 488 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: big woods of Arkansas. Are you using any sense for 489 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: white tail? The only thing that used for sense for 490 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: whitetail spencer is I like to use dough yurine as 491 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: a cover scent. Synthetic dough yurine. We have to use 492 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: that here in Arkansas as a cover cent. I put 493 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: it on my boots, and I don't put it on 494 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: my boots so that a deer will follow me to 495 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: my stand. I put it on my boots so that 496 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: a deer will ignore me, because that is what I 497 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: have seen extensively. Is that, So I'm not using it 498 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: as an attractant. I'm using it as something to cover 499 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: up my ground scent and the other thing that I 500 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: like to do. And I've just seen it work so 501 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: many times and buy me a couple of deer. Is 502 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: it sounds hokey, But I pour out of daub of 503 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: dope synthetic dough yurine out of my stand and just 504 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: let it hit the ground once I'm up in the tree, 505 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: and if a deer cuts my wind, he's gonna smell 506 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: my human scent. At the same time, it smells a 507 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: big dose of a new deer scent, and it just 508 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: it confuses them. If they smell human scent, Bam, They're gone. 509 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I've seen dear stall out and even walk through my sense, 510 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's because of that that dough year, 511 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: and so I like to do that. What are you 512 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: seeing right now for signmaking in the oars, bucks are 513 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: making tons of sign I feel like the big mature 514 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: bucks are with the early doughs that are coming into Estris, 515 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: We've got a fairly big breeding window here, and so 516 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: there are dose in Estris right now, and just like 517 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday, I think some of the bigger deer 518 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: are with those dear the other deer that aren't with 519 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: that dough are making a ton of sign and checking scrapes. 520 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I checked us a camera over a scrape two days 521 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: ago and it had had three different bucks to it 522 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: in twenty four hours, and the prior twenty four hours 523 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: to that, or the prior probably seventy two hours to 524 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: at there has only been one or two bucks to it. 525 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: So um, that was the twenty five of October. Notable 526 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: increase in scraping activity, primarily with the younger bucks. But 527 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: they are making they're making a lot of sign right now. 528 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: Going forward, then in the sex week or so, what 529 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket ATVT is going to be 530 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to Tendon, Arkansas, It's gonna 531 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: be at a ten. It's this is the best we 532 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: you know for from about Halloween until about the seventh 533 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: of November. Here is just historically the best time our 534 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: peak breeding dates for northwest Arkansas from you know, fond 535 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: conception studies that they've done over the years, is right 536 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: around the fifth to the seventh of November, so it's 537 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of an early rut, so you know, 538 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: right during the you know, right before that, um Man, 539 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: we we can have some great red activity. Um So 540 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: this week if we haven't, we're having good weather. It's 541 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: it's not going to be super cold, but it's not 542 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna be overwhelmingly warm. Has in the fifties dipping down 543 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: into the forties at night. It's gonna be good weather. 544 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're ever gonna have a ten, it's 545 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be this week. All right, Clay, Well, good luck 546 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: with the rest of your season. Welcome to the Meat 547 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Eater team, and thanks for joining me. Thanks, Spencer, appreciate it. Man, 548 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: good luck to you all right, and enjoining us on 549 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: the line. Next is t J Unger in Indiana from 550 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: the Virtue TV. Now t J in Indiana. What would 551 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: you say the buck activities been leally on a scale 552 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: of one to ten, Spencer, thanks for having me on. Yeah, 553 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, buck activity is is starting to increase. I'd 554 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: probably rate it today about five. Um starting to see 555 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, young bucks on their feet pretty regularly during daytime, 556 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: during daytime hours, so we're seeing two and three year 557 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: olds that are that are moving pretty pretty heavily now, 558 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: so things are ramping up to be a pretty solid 559 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: next you know, six seven days, when do you expect 560 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: to start seeing those mature bucks on their feet in daylight? 561 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: We have, uh, some some pretty consistent meteorological conditions right now. 562 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: So we had a big cold front push in on Friday, 563 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: and it's been pretty consistent weather, a little bit of 564 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: rain mixed in, just super light rain. Um moon phase 565 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: is really solid, so I think every single day things 566 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: are improving. So going into this weekend, gosh, it's only Wednesday, 567 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: but um, you know, I'm expecting a really good Saturday 568 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Sunday uh here in Indiana, so I'm in the northeast 569 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: portion of the state. But but yeah, looking at the 570 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: extended forecast, UM consistently cold temps and uh that moon 571 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: phase is is looking pretty solid. So I would not 572 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: be surprised here over the next two three days if 573 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm seeing realm mature deer up on their feet and 574 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: at least on trail cameras. You haunted Textbook state, and 575 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: I imagine some textbook farms for doing some decoying. Is 576 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: that a strategy that you'll use during pre rut it is. 577 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: I've already been using I've got a Dave Smith, so 578 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I've already been using the decoy probably for the last 579 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: week and a half. Um, you know, we're we're really 580 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: not looking to kill those, so you know, sometimes you 581 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: get a little bit of weird interaction with those, but 582 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: have already had some good interaction with young bucks. So 583 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a week ago I had an 584 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: encounter with two and a half year old and then 585 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: followed by a three you know, three and a half 586 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: year old. Um come out in the field and just 587 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of bow up to him, get a little bit aggressive. 588 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I'm still planning on Actually I'm 589 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm cleaning up and packing up right now, planning the 590 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: head of the stands I'm taking to decoy with me. 591 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: So now is the time in my book. Uh you know, 592 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: obviously things change from one state or one farm to 593 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: the neck. But um, if you've got pretty high, uh 594 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, competition on your farm's good buck ratio. Uh 595 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: you know, now at the time I'm putting them out 596 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: there and and letting them do the work, I'm still 597 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: doing a little bit of light rattling. I haven't got 598 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: too aggressive with it. But but yeah, man, this is 599 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: this is the light switch for me and it's time 600 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: to go. Do you think that signmaking has peaked yet 601 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: in Indiana? Um? So, I mentioned that we're getting some 602 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: light rain. So it's about every two to three days 603 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: that we're just getting you know, it's less than a 604 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: quarter a quarter into rain. The reason why I bring 605 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: that up, um, you know, with any precipitation like that 606 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of washes out on those signposts, so community scrapes 607 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: and whatever. Uh, it just gives these bucks another opportunity 608 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: to to freshen up the scrapes and communicate with each 609 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: other who's the boss. Um. So you know, over the 610 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: course of the last two or three days, those signposts 611 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: have really picked up pretty substantially. So if you follow 612 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: me on social I keep posting pictures of new scrapes 613 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: or freshly cleaned out scrapes. It's happening, you know, every 614 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: two days, which is it's pretty great. Um. You know, 615 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I think we're going to 616 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: see that transition today light activity any day now. I 617 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: really expect to see the first doze probably come into 618 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: estro like I said, over the next maybe two or 619 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: three days something like that. Um, but wouldn't be surprised 620 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: if we see a little bit sooner. I saw on 621 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: a recent Instagram post that you posted what would be 622 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: a classic community scrape. Tell us t J about how 623 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: community scrapes differ from other scrapes and how that factors 624 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: into a hunt. Yeah. So, so I picked up several 625 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: new farms, um in the off season and just kind 626 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: of looking at the topography of this one particular front. 627 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: Never hunted it before, UM, but just based on topography 628 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: and and it connects to you know, some some pretty 629 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: big timber uh. Really made a mock scrape relatively early 630 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: in this area, uh and put cell camera on it 631 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: and video mode and UM. Over the course of maybe 632 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: five days something like that, I had twenty different bucks 633 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: roll through that scrape, now, varying ages obviously, but um, 634 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: but they're just making their routes at nighttime and communicating 635 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: with each other obviously as horton, you know, their hormone 636 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: levels change. UM. You know they're they're putting that sent down. UM, 637 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: and in my opinion, a little bit earlier, they're telling 638 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: each other they'll be back and kind of marking their 639 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: own territory and and figuring out these main routes. But 640 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: because so many deer travel through that section, it's just 641 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: an excellent way for everybody to keep tabs on each other. 642 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: I mean, those those are still hitting them, those still 643 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: check them a little bit. But um as testosterone levels 644 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: continue to peak. Uh man, there's there's a lot of 645 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: box hitting these community scrapes. So I actually transitions from 646 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: food sources and and you know, travel routes and that 647 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: sort of thing over to scrapes a little bit early 648 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: this year. Historically I felt like I was always late. 649 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: You know, I would find a scrape, pop camera on it, 650 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I would only get a day or 651 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: so uh where it was good activity. So this year 652 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: are poping them up a little bit early on scrapes. 653 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: It was a little slow to again with but we 654 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: hit them right this year and and just about every 655 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: one of those big community scrapes that we've got them 656 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: on are are very very, very very active. So it's 657 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: great to see. It's exciting. Just need to get these 658 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: these big rascals in daylight. Last year, harvest in the 659 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: Midwest was way behind and it made for a difficult right, 660 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: what's the status of harvest in Indiana this year? So harvest. 661 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: Harvest has actually been pretty early this year. We had 662 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: all of our surrounding neighbors and the farms that were 663 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: on they are cleared of crops already, so uh that 664 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: was happening, you know the first part of October when 665 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: when farmers were really hit in the fields. Um, so 666 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, I remember years passed hunting in mid November 667 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: and still seeing standing corn, which makes it really difficult. 668 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: Those bucks can pull those dose out in the standing 669 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 1: corn and and really did live out there. So um, 670 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: you know, it reduces habitat for these guys, and uh 671 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: it's been great, you know, like I said, it's pushed 672 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: these animals into the end of the timber. So uh 673 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: So as far as sign and that sort of thing, 674 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot more sign in the woods that 675 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: than I am outside of the woods. So right when 676 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: that corn comes off, I think that deer have more 677 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: tendency to to feed, you know, right with that fresh corn, 678 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: and then they kind of went back to their their 679 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: typical patterns. But um, we also have just an absolute 680 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: banner year for acorns. So on the majority of my farms, 681 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing just a ton it's on a acorn, 682 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: So that in timber activity has been pretty high. I've 683 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: seen a lot of a lot of signposts and scrapes 684 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: coming up inside those areas kind of on South Acan 685 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: slopes and betting areas. They're boarding bordering big oak flats. 686 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: Going forward, Then in the sext week or so, what 687 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: do you think that book a TV is going to 688 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Indiana 689 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: going into this weekend, We're we're hitting that golden time 690 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: of year. Um, November is almost upon us. So this 691 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: is my very favorite time to be in the woods. Uh, 692 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: to this point, I've stayed on edges, so I'm jumping 693 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: into my more aggressive stop. I expect it. I'm not 694 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna call it at ten, but I would expect to 695 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: see it somewhere around seven to eight. I I expect 696 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: to see some good deer on their feet in daylight 697 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: hours and uh, you know, starting to to seek out 698 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: some some first dope coming into astrocycle. All right, t J, 699 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: I like your optimism. Good luck with the rest of 700 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: your season, and thanks for joining me. I really appreciate it. Further, 701 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: you have good luck to you and stay safe. And 702 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: that concludes this week's episode of Rout Fresh Radio. Thanks 703 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: to Mike, Clay, Trey, and t J for joining me, 704 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening. As always, make sure 705 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: you're following Wired to Haunt on Facebook and Instagram and 706 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: following me spent her new Hearts on Facebook and Instagram 707 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: as well. The next time I talked to you, guys, 708 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: it is going to be November and I'm so excited 709 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: for the eleventh month of the year. Until then, stay 710 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Wired to Haunt.