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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and I'm Roger Berman, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Works for Us, where we talk to

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Speaker 1: people about what works for them and their relationships and

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Speaker 1: of course what doesn't. Today we're so excited to be

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Speaker 1: talking to the most glowing, gorgeous mother daughter duo that

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Speaker 1: ever was Doctor Barbara Storm and her mini me, or

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Speaker 1: the mini her, or the real her, Charlie Storm. But

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Speaker 1: Doctor Sturm and Charlie are not only bonded together through family,

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Speaker 1: but also through their joint efforts in now the family business.

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Speaker 1: As an innovative and revolutionary leader in skincare, which I

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Speaker 1: can say firsthand, Doctor Barbara Storm has quickly become one

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Speaker 1: of the most sought after esthetics doctors in the world.

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Speaker 1: She's widely renowned for her anti inflammatory philosophy and non

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Speaker 1: surgical yes non surgical anti aging skin treatments, often dubbed

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Speaker 1: the vampire facial. Doctor Sturm's famous MCX facial and MC

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Speaker 1: one of a spokeloma based cream made with each patient's

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Speaker 1: blood yes blood gained the avid support of celebrity clients

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Speaker 1: such as Kim Kardashian, Hailey Bieber and Angela Bassett and

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Speaker 1: solidified Doctor Storm as an international skincare giant. Her lovely

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Speaker 1: and I can say, beautiful daughter. You can't see her,

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Speaker 1: but I can and I have. Charlie Storm has clearly

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Speaker 1: inherited her mother's incredible genes and skincare no how while

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Speaker 1: heavily involved in the marketing, social media, content creation, brand partnerships,

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Speaker 1: and product development for her mom's skincareline, Doctor Barbara's Storm

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Speaker 1: Molecular Cosmetics. Welcome to works for us, Doctor Storm and Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I can also say, again, our listeners can't see me,

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Speaker 1: but I probably have at least seven Storm products on

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Speaker 1: my face and body as we sit here. And I

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Speaker 1: have to be honest, I also have the yes hump,

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Speaker 1: I don't I just put some sort of a cream. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the lovely introduction, Oh my God. Of course,

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Speaker 1: of course, of course. But I mean I can say, um,

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Speaker 1: enough to call friends. And I just want to say

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Speaker 1: I've had the good fortune of experiencing the storm experience

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Speaker 1: and it's funny my skin. And this is clearly not

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Speaker 1: that the Storm System products and process are literally I

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, not not that any of you

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Speaker 1: that that she is legit and if you guys see

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Speaker 1: her face, you would die. All of both of you

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Speaker 1: and I was proud the orangel is always using my protest.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean they really are that good. I

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Speaker 1: mean they really are that good. You do? And I

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Speaker 1: get more compliments in my skin and they go, what

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Speaker 1: do you do? I was like, I have such a regiment,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's so rewarding for me because they say yes,

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Speaker 1: So I make a change in people's lives. We can

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Speaker 1: cream and I was my life already. Yeah. I agree.

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Speaker 1: this very organic ambassador spokesperson. Because what I love about you,

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Speaker 1: that Barbara and I are not young obviously, but like

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Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. But first and foremost, because

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning. I was like, are we in

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Speaker 1: And I have to say I would turn that question

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Speaker 1: meal kit for eating. Well, how is that building a

451
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Speaker 1: business as a mom, Because that's my question, because I

452
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Speaker 1: think that's I was a later mom and I it's

453
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Speaker 1: it's it's not easy to do. And you have five children,

454
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: but you've also been a young you were very young

455
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: mom building this spare. But I was still a student.

456
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I was in medicine, and I had Charlie in my

457
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, semester vacation, and then I went right back

458
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: to university and I took her with me and I

459
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: was breast feeding her. You know, it was just like

460
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: taking her everywhere, and she would sleep. She was so easy.

461
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: She was such a relaxed kid. And and then you know,

462
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm like Pepper or I had Pepper seven. I said

463
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: to my husband, you know, so easy, we can have

464
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: another child. It's so easy. It goes on the side

465
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: and it's like full on crazy andy. So it's like

466
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: something like some thunder hit me. But it was Charlie

467
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: was easy, and she was like, you know, going aside

468
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: and along with whatever I was doing, she was. And

469
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: also my mother was still alive. My parents were taking

470
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: care of Charlie, so I could really focus also on

471
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: my business. And Charlie was also cool. We mostly didn't

472
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Speaker 1: go on vacation. We went to New York or where

473
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Speaker 1: else in the world, treating patients. She was a patient.

474
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: She's sitting on the sofa with her Nintendo and that

475
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: was done book clocks and phillis into people's faces. You know,

476
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: that was her life, watching me building and building this business.

477
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, it's pretty cool. It's almost like like

478
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: a musician or someone else that goes on the road

479
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: and their kid, you know, goes on the road with them.

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: You know kind of yeah, it's like almost famous. No,

481
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: but it's pretty It's really cool. And I for me,

482
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: just as a working mom, I always thought was like

483
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: my biggest question, like what if I did this mom

484
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: thing earlier? What would that have been like? From building

485
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: my career and even having Sky really late in life,

486
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I took him everywhere until he was in school. I

487
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: literally just took him every air. You know. So beyond work,

488
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: what do you guys like to do? And first of all,

489
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: what do you like to do when you're not working?

490
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: And do you do it together or separately? Um, we

491
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: do a lot of things together. Our work is very

492
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: much not schedule, like it's very it's constant, you know,

493
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: but we do like stuff in between. For example, now

494
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: we just went, um we obviously like celebrated Christmas together

495
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: and then we went skiing together. Um, in between, we'd

496
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: work stuff obviously, but like skiing together for them, but

497
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: we love right we What else do we do together? Um?

498
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: We go for nice we were in together, we go

499
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: for walks. We're yeah, I mean when we're we're in

500
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: the same city. When when we're in the same place,

501
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: we just around together. Yeah, spend. The guys are the cutest.

502
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: I just want to everyone to know that they are

503
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: actually that, I mean, they are really beyond beautiful, not

504
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: to professional, but they're soka. Um, So, Charlie, where do

505
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: you live live now? New York? Just to move to

506
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: New York? I was living in LA, but I just

507
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: moved to New York, which is also nice to be

508
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: a bit closer to Europe. Um, yeah, it is. That's

509
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: the one negative about LA. We're far from Europe. Pain

510
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: in the butt. To add to the young mom thing,

511
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that it was a like I

512
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: always loved it because I feel like we had such

513
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: a close relationship and such a more like also sister

514
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: friendly relationship. And don't get me wrong, she was strict.

515
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: She wasn't she wasn't a not strict mom. But she

516
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: also he always gave me trust, like I trusted her

517
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: with everything because, like I, even though I knew you

518
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: should get mad at something's obviously, I trusted with telling

519
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: her everything because she was there as a friend and

520
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: supported and would help me find a solution rather than

521
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, getting really at right. Yeah, I've always really

522
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: appreciated that growing up. And what's your advice to other

523
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: people about working with their moms, Like, like, clearly it's

524
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: working really well for you guys, but do you have

525
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: thoughts on that outside? I mean, I guess it depends

526
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: on the relationship, but yeah, I guess it depends. I

527
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: think one thing that you said that I totally agree

528
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: with is that we work in different different Like we

529
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: we don't have every meeting together, you know, we work

530
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: in different departments. Yeah, we have a good balance, and

531
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I think that really does it. And then we also

532
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: divide and conquer, like in a way that you know,

533
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: like some things you can't be out, so I'll do

534
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: them now, And it's just a really good um. Yeah,

535
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: it has to be different departments. I think also for couples,

536
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: if they you know, work on the same meetings, Oh god,

537
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine. Oh yeah, we've been working together

538
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: for a very very long time, and we at this

539
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: point where we basically very different together. We're not a

540
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: meeting together most of the time. I think it's just

541
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: way better. It's actually and for most of the time,

542
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: she's not allowed to ask me questions because most of

543
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: the questions are oh stop, mostly already answered in other

544
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: written communications. So if she read this is how we

545
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: were communication, we have to have our listeners can't see.

546
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: But I'm hitting him with a paper right now. You

547
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: get to know. I want to ask her certain questions too.

548
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to know things sometimes, you know,

549
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: just and she'll just be annoyed. I hate, I hate,

550
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate Oh my god, I love you.

551
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I hate updating people too, especially after I wrote an

552
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: email updating everyone. Yeah, Jesus, just like, no, I don't

553
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: repeat my conversation here. I don't know, Charlie. I'm with you,

554
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: deep love Charlie. I'm with you. We love you, guys,

555
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: and it's so amazing to have you on today. We

556
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: love you obviously. I'm a die hard fan. I actually

557
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: made Roger care about his skin because of you. I

558
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: think his first ever facial was with you. Actually, he

559
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: was really excited and slightly nervous. I mean, thankfully, I'm

560
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: blessed with amazing skins, so I don't have to do

561
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: much work for it. But you know, for those of

562
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: you who have more taxing needs, I would recommend a

563
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: full regimen of Miss Durmo's product. Doctor man, please, by

564
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: the way, you have to work really hard for a

565
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: doctor in front of your name. That I think for

566
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: those who actually achieve that in life, it should just

567
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: always be any of our friends said, Actually, our doctors,

568
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: we literally call them, like our friend Jake is like,

569
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: we literally call him doctor Jake, Like, we will never

570
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: address him as Jake. We just call doctor. I tell

571
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: him tell I say doctor Jacomore. Yeah, because we feel

572
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: like he's on a soap oprice just playing one in.

573
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's play some Let's play a little game.

574
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's ask some great questions. I'm gonna ask the first question.

575
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: So this is sort of like newly Red game where

576
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: you have to answer for each other and see how

577
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: well you know each other. I bet they do well.

578
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they do all right, So Charlie, you have to

579
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: answer for your mom and vice versa. So your mom says, Charlie,

580
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: can you grab me achieved from the store on your

581
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: way home? What would you get her a treat from

582
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: the store? Yeah, grab me something on the way home,

583
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: surprise me. Would you get her I get her cake.

584
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: I'd go to the next like like yeah, it depends

585
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: where we are. Like right now, we're Inducedorf and we

586
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: have this cake store around the corner and knew exactly

587
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: which cake together, like cake, like a slice of cake

588
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: or a whole tree. For example, here there's the store

589
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: called Hindeman which has this cake called Charlotte. It's literally

590
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: called Charlotte and it's still like like cream cake with

591
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: like raspberry sauce and yep, dumb as. That's so cool,

592
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: you guys. Can you see the name of the cake story,

593
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: it's so dry. I just love the name of that

594
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: shakes so good, so shake. And here we'd be like

595
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Charlotte laired all right, well vice versa. If you had

596
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: to get something Virtuarlie, what would it be? I probably

597
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: would pick up a sticky toffee pudding somewhere. I really

598
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: like sweet treats. We like it, Yeah, any sweet treat

599
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: to be yes, Yeah, but it's like that's really a

600
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: tree read because we try obviously to stay away from it.

601
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: But when we have it, we have it. You have

602
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: a sweet too, Yeah, but like you want the real thing,

603
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: Like all my European friends, they want the real things.

604
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: They're not eating like a diet treat like exactly, they

605
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: want French fries, ice cream and steak. Do you want

606
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: to ask a questions? Yeah? Yeah, Okay, so this is

607
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: my favorite and I ask everyone because I think you

608
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: learned so much about people with this question. Okay, Charlie,

609
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: if your mom was going to get arrested, what would

610
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: she get arrested for? Jesus, it's not anything real, Like,

611
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not she's going to steal something. But like maybe

612
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: we've had really really funny ones. Tell too much to

613
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: my competitors, you know, corporate espionage, corporate corporate espionage, people

614
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: for for false parking. Do you call it Paul's parking?

615
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they Well I'm that you're not yet most

616
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: parking tickets in this town here, I puck everywhere I

617
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: used to have I used to have. I don't have

618
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: this anymore, like a like a sign like a doctor

619
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: sign in my car, so I could just park our

620
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: here anywhere. And you know, there was an article in

621
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: a newspaper here that doctor Sturm is just parking everywhere.

622
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: That is actually you actually would get arrested for that. Okay,

623
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Speaker 1: what would Charlie get arrested for? You see, I think

624
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Speaker 1: I think it would be a similar thing because she

625
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: and the car's quite an aggressive driver, especially in La

626
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: Charlie is protesting with her facial expressions just everyone else.

627
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: I learned. My husband told me, you are in America.

628
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, people have guns. You cannot be aggressive in cars.

629
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: People have funs, so I s you know, as I

630
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: just shoot out, don't grid a lift, just drive and

631
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: be sure you don't. But you are you and I

632
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: get annoyed fair enough. If you had like a car

633
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: in part behind you or whatever would see the way

634
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: you drive, you would be arrested for sure. I can't no,

635
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: these are this is literally what people some we've had,

636
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: like mine, I'd be arrested for like yelling at someone

637
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: who works at the airport because like a TSA, I

638
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: would definitely be put in jail. Yeah I have not

639
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: paid for this, I literally same yeah, same. Okay, that's insane. Okay, okay,

640
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: so last one, um uh Barbara, who's Charlie's hero? And

641
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: you can't say yourself. Charlie once wrote an essay in

642
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: her school about her idol and guess who it was? Was? Me?

643
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: So what am I? Hey? Okay, so your answer is

644
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Charlie's hero is you? Charlie? Do you have same answer

645
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: for you? You better be very careful at that. Charlie,

646
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: who is your mom's hero? I think I think her?

647
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: Are you her hero? I don't think I am? Yeah? No, no, no,

648
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: just gomes one way hero? Was your mom too? No? Yeah?

649
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: I always I always thought my mom was an incredible

650
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: human being. She was so supportive of she was so

651
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: proud of me, so supportive, she was incredible, and teaching

652
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: us how to treat others, and you know, being like

653
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: with both you on the ground always and and the

654
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: way she dedicated to left her children. I think it's

655
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: just you know what, what we would we learned from her?

656
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: And she was so asked, Yeah, I why would I?

657
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, why would I? You know I canize someone else?

658
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: You know we don't know that. Well yeah, yeah, totally,

659
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah it was disappointed anyway, Um, you know

660
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: good night stories for rebel girls you know you know

661
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: this one or like you know, they're like all these

662
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: great people who did some amazing things, and yeah, learns

663
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: all amazing. But I think you know, you know, the

664
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: people are really the mostly appreciate in life, other people

665
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: close around you. Yes, I mean, if you're lucky, well,

666
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I love you both. I'm so happy to have you

667
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: on for joining us. I think you're our first mother daughter.

668
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: We've had a lot, a lot, a lot of couples.

669
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: We've had some really incredible, amazing relationships. But unfortunately the

670
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: show has no budget, so you don't get a prist

671
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: or anything. Okay, just I haven't for you. You're going

672
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: to be invited back to our podcasts. Oh good, So

673
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: it's a mandatory show up. We will we will be there.

674
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: We will be there, and we love doing it. I

675
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: think we're coming up on a year. We've had some

676
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: amazing gas that we're really we've been yeah, not crazy,

677
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: it's like eleven years. Oh. I loved that episode. They're

678
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: very cute together. They're so cute. It's really cool for

679
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: me to see a mother and daughter um that work together,

680
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't know how many of those

681
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: I've seen in my life, to be honest, because I

682
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: feel like, typically no offense, but mothers and daughters are

683
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: very competitive, and it's almost like it's just it's just

684
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: like there's not enough room for both of them in

685
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: a business. Yeah, it's hard, but I think I think

686
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: that's a testament to like their relationship. I mean, they're

687
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: they're they're clearly not competitive, and I think that they

688
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: both realize the sort of strength benefit. Yeah, the strength,

689
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: and they clearly check different boxes in the business. Well.

690
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Also because it's like a medical based company, you know,

691
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of room for you know,

692
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: someone has to be a real doctor. Yeah. Um, so

693
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, there's a lot of in

694
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: a room for her to do her going. And and

695
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: obviously I agree Charlie's you know, very you know, sort

696
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: of their target audience sprung up more or less like educated,

697
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, sophisticated, cares about things. They're both so beautiful too,

698
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: and like can you imagine baby Charlie with like Barbara

699
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: carrying her around just taking her everywhere these like their

700
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: scan I can only imagine. Yeah. Anyway, I loved this episode.

701
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I really loved seeing such a such a cool mother

702
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: daughter duo that worked together. And I also really appreciate

703
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: that Barbara was such a young mom and kind of

704
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: building a business. No, I mean it's not easy without

705
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: a child. I can't even imagine the challenge of building this.

706
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, still in school for her getting

707
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: her degree and being a mom. I mean, it's clearly

708
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: she's very smart, able to do driven, yeah, and able

709
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: to work. But I actually think there's an even more

710
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: interesting observation. I think her sort of she said, she's

711
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: like kind of a free spirit. She just she doesn't

712
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: overthink it. My guess is that most people are like,

713
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have a child, there's no way

714
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: I could have a business. I need to get a job,

715
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: do whatever. And I think because she doesn't really necessarily

716
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: think that way, she just thought, Okay, we'll have a

717
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: baby and I'm gonna have a business. So I think

718
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: that's really it really says a lot about her. Agreed.

719
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,160
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720
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,560
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00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,319
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722
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,560
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724
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,279
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726
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Speaker 1: very own relationship stories, and we're planning to share our

727
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: favorites on the podcast. You can also ask us for

728
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: a relationship advice, although I can't stress enough that we

729
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: are not experts, but we will still take your questions.

730
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,520
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731
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: us a question, give us a call at six five

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733
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734
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,560
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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Instagram at works dot four dot us. But before we

736
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: leave you, we like to leave you with a little

737
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: highlight and low light from our week, because in relationships,

738
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: the bad comes with a good, So this is our

739
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: time to mention a little bit of both those things. Babe,

740
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: you want to go first, Um, sure, Well, highlight, I'll

741
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: go first, and it's probably gonna be the same one

742
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: as you. But the highlight is I'm looking outside and

743
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: for the first time in our life, we're able to

744
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: have like a little second getaway situation and it's kind

745
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: of second home. Yeah that's what he means. Sorry, And

746
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: you know the home part is cool, Like it's nice

747
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: to have like this ability to like change your vibe,

748
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: like from work week to week end. Although the now

749
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: we're just going to stay here for a bit and

750
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: it's going to blend all into one and we're probably

751
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: not going to achieve that, of course, but that's just

752
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: typical us. But that aside, it actually has a little

753
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: bit of a different meaning in a weird way. For me.

754
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: It feels like a little bit like every time we

755
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: do something like more adult, I feel like a little

756
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: bit more like, oh, no, we have a family, like

757
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: we are, we are parents, we are you know, we

758
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: have two like I don't know. It just makes me

759
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: feel a little bit more somewhat older, but not in

760
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: a bad way, just so much a little bit more

761
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: like established if we've grown up, Yeah, a little more established.

762
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a good feeling. Well, we work

763
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: really really hard for what we want in life, and

764
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think at a certain age you're excited

765
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: that you've done the thing that you've dreamed about. And

766
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, Roger and I think looked at each other

767
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: over this weekend we're like, we really actually have a

768
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: second home. Yeah, I guess that makes me feel good.

769
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Um low light And this is I mean, I don't

770
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: know if this is a little low No, it's a

771
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: little it's a little silly, but like the Rams really,

772
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: I mean they really should have won yesterday and overtime,

773
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry they didn't win. No through a game,

774
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: yes through a pick. I feel like that game never ended,

775
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: Like you just kept coming in and going, oh my god,

776
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: it's done. It's the sickest game over That game. That

777
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: was the night game. That game was insane. The Raiders game.

778
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: The Raiders game was the sickest game I've ever seen.

779
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Do you see that, Mary? That was insanity. Oh my god,

780
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I watched the end. That was a game that went

781
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: on forever. Well, a really good NFL so I'd like

782
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: to thank the NFL as although the low light was that.

783
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: Oh and the other crazy thing that happened in the

784
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: low light. I don't know if he saw the Chargers game.

785
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's still talking. Instead of just letting

786
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: the clock run down, the Chargers coach called a time

787
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: out and whatever. It's really silly, but he basically prevented

788
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: them from coming to the playoffs, which is the weirdest

789
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: thing of all time. I was watching it broadcast for

790
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: watching and everyone's like, why is he doing this and

791
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: he didn't, and it was nuts. And then the Steelers

792
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: are now going to the playoffs and Bensberger, my sister's boyfriend,

793
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: is probably flipping out, Oh yeah, Pittsburgh. And he wouldn't

794
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: let Pamela talk in the room last night because he

795
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: was afraid that her loud talking was gonna By the way,

796
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: you understand, it was a tie game. If they tied,

797
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: they weren't going into the playoffs. And all of a sudden,

798
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers guy there was twenty seconds left, like calls

799
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: the time out when they were just going to let

800
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: the clock run out, and they're like, oh, you're really

801
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: calling a time out, Well, then screw you it. They

802
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal, so they lost. It was crazy

803
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: and the stealers went in, So yes, your mark is

804
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: going absolutely crazy, and Ben who's retired, everyone thought they

805
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: saw my listeners listening to my husband talking to me

806
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: for they're going to be they're going to cut this out.

807
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Based to trying to pease my dad and like try

808
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: and have like a really good reaction to him explaining

809
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: like excited about a game because I wanted him to

810
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: not feel alone. So I kind of just found myself

811
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: trying to do that for you. I'm pretending to care

812
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: about what you just told me anyway. Do I have

813
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: a low light? Um or a highlight? That's what we're

814
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: doing here, a highlight? Will you just stopped talking, so

815
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: give me a second, Jesus put some music. Do do

816
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Do Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? I? Oh

817
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: my god, honestly, I like forgot my highlight. Honestly, my

818
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: highlight is honestly being being in Malibu, and that's already

819
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: been used on the show. Please provide another highlight. No,

820
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: I wasn't done. You get the most Annoying award today.

821
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: My lowland is my husband's driving me crazy. But what

822
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: I was going to say before he was rude and

823
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: won't stop singing, is I was going to say that

824
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: what I actually realized, my highlight is is that I

825
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: really can be anywhere with my family and just literally

826
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: be happy. And I know it sounds like sappy, but

827
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: what I realized is I'm never sick of my kids.

828
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: That might change when they're teenagers, but for now, I

829
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: really enjoy being with them more than I enjoy being

830
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: with anybody. And then I really realized that when it's

831
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: the four of us like I'm down, like I'm cool,

832
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: and I doesn't matter what house we're in, doesn't matter

833
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: where we travel. We you know, that's my highlight. It's

834
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: sort of like I'm happy with like what's right around me.

835
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm very content watching movie nights and making food and

836
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: stuff like that. My love light, yeah, but my low light,

837
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: I would say honestly that I feel like we just

838
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: did a massive circle in COVID and I feel like

839
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: we're just back in, like you know, and thankfully with Amicron.

840
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: You know, not that many people are getting really well

841
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: people are. But anyway, long story short is, it's just

842
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: so not over and I think we're all just over it.

843
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: But I think at the same time you have to

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Speaker 1: really still proceed with caution very very much. So that's

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Speaker 1: a big low light that I woke up with today,

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Speaker 1: just realizing like canceling things and you know whatever. So

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Speaker 1: here we are. Here we are. But thank you. I

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Speaker 1: do want to say thank you to the doctors and

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Speaker 1: all the frontline workers. Get your vaccines please, it will

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Speaker 1: save your life ultimately. See you next week on works

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Speaker 1: for US next week fight mm hm hm