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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Nope. All of you are having fantastic Tuesdays

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Speaker 2: wherever you may be across this great country or around

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Speaker 2: this great land.

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Speaker 3: We are rolling.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to dive into with you today.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, we didn't talk about this yesterday, but has

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Speaker 2: some interesting opinions about Hunter Biden. The Hispanic white supremacist

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Speaker 2: story grows as the left wing media cannot get enough

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 3: We got a border mess.

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, Well, he has real strong opinions about pronouns

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Speaker 2: in the bio and a lot of you may not

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Speaker 2: have seen this story, but I think it's emblematic of

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Speaker 2: everything that we get wrong in the media on a

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Speaker 2: somewhat regular basis. A former punter for the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: was kicked out of the NFL because of a rape allegation.

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Speaker 2: That rape allegation has now been one hundred percent refuted.

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Speaker 2: It did not happen. He is one hundred percent innocent,

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Speaker 2: and many of the media outlets that were quick to

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Speaker 2: cover the allegation are saying nothing at all about the

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Speaker 2: fact that the allegation has gone up in smoke and

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Speaker 2: this guy is innocent. Going to talk about that story

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Speaker 2: and what it reflects about the modern media environment. But

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Speaker 2: we begin with Joe Biden. As a part of his

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Speaker 2: rare interview, he set down with Stephanie Rule of MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: and this jumped out at me over the weekend. We

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Speaker 2: played you a couple of these cuts on Monday, but

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Speaker 2: we didn't hit this one. Bien, person, I believe we

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Speaker 2: have a queued up here. Let's listen to cut twelve,

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Speaker 2: as Biden has asked directly about Hunter Biden and whether

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Speaker 2: or not Hunter has behaved in any way in an

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Speaker 2: inappropriate or a legal manner.

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Speaker 4: Listen, affecting you, your son, while there's no ties to

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Speaker 4: you could be charged by your Department of Justice.

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Speaker 3: How will that impact your presidency?

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Speaker 5: First of all, my son has done nothing wrong. I

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Speaker 5: trust him, I have faith in him, and it impacts

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Speaker 5: my presidency by making me feel proud of him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, buck, When Joe Biden says he's done nothing wrong,

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Speaker 2: that is I mean, look, I understand I've got three boys,

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Speaker 2: and I understand that you're probably worried about your son's

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Speaker 2: mental health, and certainly he's made all sorts of drug

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Speaker 2: induced poor decisions. But I want to kind of play

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Speaker 2: this out a little bit. But starting there, the idea

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Speaker 2: you knew at some point this question was coming. What

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Speaker 2: strikes you about this response, in particular, buck Well Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden saying that my son's done nothing wrong. Yeah, first

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Speaker 2: of all, obviously he's done a lot wrong, So that's

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Speaker 2: not particularly effective. Pr The word that he should have

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Speaker 2: used is illegal, and even that's not true, but at

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Speaker 2: least you could understand a dad is going to claim

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Speaker 2: that there's a presumption of innocence and until it's proven

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Speaker 2: in a court of law, he will admit nothing when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the illegality of his son's dealings. You know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I was just speaking to our friend Sean Ryan on

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Speaker 2: his podcast recently, which will be out in a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks about Epstein and one of the things about

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Speaker 2: the whole Epstein reality, which is still there are so

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Speaker 2: many questions and there is so much that stinks to

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Speaker 2: high Heaven about it. It's really not that hard to

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Speaker 2: trace money. It's really not that difficult. No one's you know,

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Speaker 2: Epstein wasn't traveling all around the world with trucks filled

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Speaker 2: with gold bars, Right, how did this guy get hundreds

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Speaker 3: People didn't really want to look too much into This

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Speaker 3: is my thesis on it. Hunter Biden reminds me of this.

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Speaker 3: Where did the money really go? Millions of dollars coming

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Speaker 3: into accounts from China, a million dollars from Barisma. We

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Speaker 3: know it didn't pay taxes on it, but they could

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Speaker 3: do forensic accounting and figure out what was I mean

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Speaker 3: is ten percent for the big guy a joke? Clay?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really like to focus in. People are

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Speaker 3: talking about lying on the gun form. Yeah, you're not

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Speaker 3: supposed to do that. Sometimes people get prosecuted for that

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Speaker 3: controlled substance user in the moment he did it? You know? Fine,

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Speaker 3: The big issue here is Biden family corruption. And I

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Speaker 3: still think that for all the talk of they're looking

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Speaker 3: still in. That's what I see right now.

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Speaker 2: And they did because the premise of her question, if

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Speaker 2: is uh. The reason he hughes the phrase did nothing

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Speaker 2: The premise of the question probably should have been, do

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Speaker 2: you believe your son has done anything illegal? And, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the answer is one hundred percent. Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: has behaved in an illegal fashion. He pays taxes, and

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Speaker 2: that's not disputed at all. He knows millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: in back taxes. That is illegal behavior by Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: not to have paid the full extent of his taxes.

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Speaker 2: But here is where I think this might go, Buck

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Speaker 2: and see whether you would buy in here. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who would order the code read. So that is

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Speaker 2: certainly a question that could be asked. But in the

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Speaker 2: wake of the Washington Post coming out and saying Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's approval rating is thirty six percent, we know that

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Speaker 2: the Washington Post is effectively a propaganda arm of the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party. So the fact that they would allow that

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Speaker 2: six percent approval and worse than that for Biden, I think, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that's pretty bad because it's the worst

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Speaker 2: no one has ever been worse than Biden is right now.

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Speaker 2: So it's not your imagination is for many people at

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Speaker 2: an historically awful president, but the fact that over sixty

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Speaker 2: able to do the job, and that the overall distrust

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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden, because that was one of his sales

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Speaker 2: pitches was Trump is untrustworthy, I am trustworthy.

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Speaker 3: Is all starting to rain down?

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Speaker 2: If and I stress if if there are charges brought

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Speaker 2: against Hunter, is there a pathway?

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Speaker 3: Buck?

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking like for feedback out there from you

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Speaker 2: guys as well. Eight hundred and two eight two two

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Speaker 2: eight a two, where Joe Biden is says I'm going

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Speaker 2: to pardon my son from all of these federal charges

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Speaker 2: that would make it nearly impossible for him to win election. Now,

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Speaker 2: he could win reelection, and then in December, after he's

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Speaker 2: already won, he could pardon Hunter. But he's gonna have

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Speaker 2: possibility that Biden and the family, looks at Joe's health,

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Speaker 2: stepping down, pardoning Hunter, riding off into the sunset and

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Speaker 2: saying it's time for a new era of leadership.

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Speaker 3: So I would say, I think that is not impossible,

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Speaker 3: but I would bet a lot against it. And here's why.

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Speaker 3: I think. By the way, Okay, so it all hinges

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Speaker 3: to our initial conversations about this over a year ago. Now,

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Speaker 3: what kind of charges did I've always thought they might

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Speaker 3: bring something against Hunter. Slap on the wrist. Yeah, if

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Speaker 3: it's a slap on the wrist, which I still think

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's nothing, he paid his fine. That

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Speaker 3: I think is getting less likely. I would admit, I

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Speaker 3: think it's becoming too odious, too odorous, maybe word too filthy,

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Speaker 3: the justice system corruption here of Hunter Biden not getting

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Speaker 3: any punishment for something that just to be clear, all

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Speaker 3: of you listen to this, if you got millions of

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Speaker 3: for a period of years. You'd be going to prison. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I said the other day, I'm a big Wesley Snipes fan.

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Speaker 3: I love Wesley Snipes. In the nineties, he spent like

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Speaker 3: four years in federal prison for tax evasion or three

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Speaker 3: likeliest scenario at this stage is they come forward with

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Speaker 3: you know, Hunter claims that he had he wasn't a

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Speaker 3: a mistake. He's paying a fine and he's going to

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Speaker 3: plead to you know, I don't I guess. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if misdemeanor, tax evasion or some kind of I

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Speaker 3: don't know tax law, so I don't know what this

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Speaker 3: step down would be. But basically, Clay he pays a

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Speaker 3: fine and says I'm sorry and faces no prison time.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think is most likely to your point,

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Speaker 3: because maybe not maybe that you know, I was so

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Speaker 3: Joe was so necessary to the party, right was going

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Speaker 3: That shifts the whole calculus away. And so if you

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Speaker 3: had Hunter facing prison time, I think the likeliest scenario

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Speaker 3: is that Joe commutes hunter sentence, says, I love my son.

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Speaker 3: He's a convicted felon now, but I love my son.

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Speaker 3: I know what it is to suffer. He turns it

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Speaker 3: if his son faces prison, that that ends Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: run in twenty twenty four. But we could go back

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Speaker 3: gonna be quite a belly flop.

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Speaker 2: So here here's my analysis of why I feel like

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Speaker 2: something big is coming.

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Speaker 3: The timing on this.

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Speaker 2: If you were going to take out Joe Biden andelitically, politically, yes,

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Speaker 2: the time that you would want to do it is

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Speaker 2: right now, because it would still give you a runway

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Speaker 2: for a competitive primary. And if you look at what's

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Speaker 2: going on right now, the only reason why Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: has a virtually right now uncontested unless you wanted to

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Speaker 2: count Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Mary Anne Williamson, but

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Speaker 2: effectively uncontested DNC is not even allow any any debates

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Speaker 2: is because Democrats have bought the premise Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: the only is the most likely candidate to be Trump, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is why Joe Biden's candidacy exists, not

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Speaker 2: just anything he's doing, It's because he is the candidate

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Speaker 2: most likely to be Trump. Well, when the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: comes out with a poll that shows you are six

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Speaker 2: or seven points behind and that over sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: the American public doesn't believe you are capable of this,

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Speaker 2: and the poll comes out Buck the same week that

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Speaker 2: Title forty two is coming undone and MSNBC and CNN

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Speaker 2: are going to even have to be on the ground

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Speaker 2: down on the border with Friday's looming chaos coming. Imagine

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Speaker 2: a world where Title forty two ends Buck and on

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Speaker 2: Friday charges are announced against Hunter. Over the weekend, everybody

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Speaker 2: is saying Biden may be toast. I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm just tossing this out there. So everything you're amu.

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Speaker 3: Look, everything you're saying logically follows and makes sense in

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Speaker 3: this moment what I see it though, as you know,

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Speaker 3: on sort of the opposite side of this coin, if

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Speaker 3: they were going to have a total mess, you remember,

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Speaker 3: Sexton Show starts right now, and we wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: just awful shooting that occurred in Allen, Texas at the

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Speaker 3: It's the second deadliest mass shooting in the US this year.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, racist white nationalists appeared ten times

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Speaker 2: But what happened is they all tried to label everything

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Speaker 2: I don't believe, I mean this honestly, that I've ever

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, you get your you get your butt

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Speaker 2: And yet what they did was they expanded the definition

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Speaker 3: them talk about this, yeah, that it upholds white supremacy.

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Speaker 3: The education system is white supremacy, everything all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: the same way they did with racism. So not only

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Speaker 3: do they change to this much more frightening concept and

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Speaker 3: definitionally this much more concerning elevation, they expanded the usage

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Speaker 3: of it too. It it's white supremacy now doesn't just

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Speaker 3: mean skinheads who want to harm people on their skin color,

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Speaker 3: because there's very few of those people and they're going

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Speaker 3: to get their asses kicked anywhere in America. It's now

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Speaker 3: anything they find unequal in society they call white supremacy.

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Speaker 2: And what I would build on with this tubac is,

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Speaker 2: if this were such a prominent political group, can you

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Speaker 2: even name a prominent white supremacist. No, white people might

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Speaker 2: say David Duke because they go back to the eighties

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Speaker 2: and nineties whenever that guy was ascended. But if this

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Speaker 2: were such a powerful group of people in the United States,

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Speaker 2: you would be able to point to someone who is

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Speaker 2: the head of the white supremacy movement and point to

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Speaker 2: some political power.

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Speaker 3: That they have.

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Speaker 2: The reality is racist, like actual racist, are probably the

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Speaker 2: least powerful people in America today. The white racist lives

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Speaker 2: in a trailer park, by and large, has almost no

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Speaker 2: economic resources, has almost no ability to impact anything in

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Speaker 2: their life. So this idea, this boogeyman that has been

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Speaker 2: created of this white supremacy supremacist power structure, is actually

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Speaker 2: the opposite buck. In fact, if you even utter anything

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Speaker 2: that could be remotely racist, by and large, and you

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Speaker 2: work in a big company, you get fired immediately. Yes,

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Speaker 2: even if you're not doing it at work. If you

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Speaker 2: go on Facebook and share something remotely connected to racism.

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Speaker 2: Your ability to even earn a living in this country

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Speaker 2: almost virtually ceases to exist.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's fascinating to watch the way as well

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Speaker 3: that this, now, this is being used as an opportunity

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Speaker 3: by Democrats to say things that anybody who's not brainwashed

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Speaker 3: in the lib audience would know is absurd. All right,

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Speaker 3: here is Joy reid Over on MSNBC, who is putting

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Speaker 3: out there that you know, in Red states, it's just

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Speaker 3: not safe to go to a mall, a restaurant or

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Speaker 3: a nightclub. Is it question mark play one?

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Speaker 6: Is it safe to go to the mall in a

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Speaker 6: Red state? What about a restaurant or a nightclub? What's

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Speaker 6: your likelihood of getting shot? Or the weekend, seven people

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Speaker 6: were shot and one killed during a Sinko Demayo party

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Speaker 6: in Mississippi. Four people were shot at a nightclub in Virginia.

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Speaker 6: And then in Allen, Texas on Saturday, a man pulled

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Speaker 6: up to the Allen Premium Outlets mall, got out of

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Speaker 6: his car with an AR fifteen style assault weapon and

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Speaker 6: open fire. This is what America is now everywhere, but

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Speaker 6: especially in Red states. For the CDC, the states with

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Speaker 6: the highest gun death rates are all red states, with

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Speaker 6: the exception of New Mexico, for the lowest gun death

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Speaker 6: rates are found in blue states.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's talk let's talk about this. Let's talk about

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Speaker 3: this for a second. In those red states, where is

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Speaker 3: ninety percent of the violence happening in Democrat controlled cities

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Speaker 3: with a Democrat Biden voting population. Yeah, that's where all

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Speaker 3: the violence is actually occurring. Statistically interesting, Also, she left out,

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Speaker 3: you know, Illinois and Chicago as she calls Virginia a

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Speaker 3: red state, which, by the way, is pushing it a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but it's but this is just an obvious

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Speaker 3: lie because the MSNBC audience likes to sit at home

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Speaker 3: and think, Yeah, it's so dangerous to be in a

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Speaker 3: red state. No, it's dangerous to be in a Democrat

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Speaker 3: city run by Democrats with too many Democrat voters. That's

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Speaker 3: who's shooting everybody. That's where the violence is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In my home state of Tennessee is a perfect example

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Speaker 2: of that. Memphis is one of the most dangerous cities

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Speaker 2: in America. Memphis is the only part of the state

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Speaker 2: of Tennessee that is one hund hundred percent totally and

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Speaker 2: completely in control by Democrats, and it is a killing field.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Rest of the state of Tennessee, now Nashville a little

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Speaker 2: bit wobbly at times, depending on how you define the

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Speaker 2: larger Nashville area. But if you took Memphis and gave

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Speaker 2: it to Mississippi or Arkansas, the rates of violent crime

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Speaker 2: in the state of Tennessee would vanish. The Democrats are

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Speaker 2: the ones doing the killings. I mean, this is why

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Speaker 2: they can't have for example, you or me on MSNBC,

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Speaker 2: And because I would sit there, I'd say, okay, Joy Reid, Yes,

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Speaker 2: red states. The people who live in you know, Colleen, Texas,

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Speaker 2: and the people who live in you know, Chattanooga, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: they're so terrified. Okay, Let's look where the violence is

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Speaker 2: actually happening. Let's look at the most violent cities, which

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Speaker 2: is where statewide ninety percent in these states, or the

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Speaker 2: violence is happening in urban areas. Who controls Memphis, Who

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Speaker 2: controls Saint Louis, Who controls Baltimore, Who controls Oakland, Who

522
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Speaker 2: controls New Orleans, Who controls Chicago? Down the list, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: without exception, these are enclaves of Democrat voters with Democrat administrations.

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Speaker 3: Another doom that is it safe to go to a

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Speaker 3: red state to go to a movie. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: just it's such intellectual dishonesty. But I mean maybe that

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Speaker 3: elevates the discourse beyond what MSNBC is even capable of.

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Speaker 3: Any way, So.

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Speaker 2: You can destroy the argument by pointing the Democrat cities.

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Speaker 2: You can also destroy the argument by pointing to where

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Speaker 2: people are moving. People are overwhelmingly moving to Red states.

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Speaker 2: If you really felt like you can't go to a

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Speaker 2: movie and not get murdered, I don't think people would

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Speaker 2: be moving here in massive numbers, which is why the

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty census, I'm just putting it on your horizon,

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Speaker 2: is going to be transformative in many ways from a

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Speaker 2: political perspective because Blue states and blue cities are going

538
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Speaker 2: to be losing a ton of their power and it's

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Speaker 2: moving to red states. It's probably going to accelerate over

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Speaker 2: the next sea years.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, inflation and prices they keep going up,

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Speaker 3: and this banking crisis is a big deal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was just looking today at a podcast where a

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the day of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton show rolling through

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Speaker 2: the second hour of the of the show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. A lot of different

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Speaker 2: stories out there that are that are percolating, but as

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Speaker 2: we said, border about to be a disaster the likes

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Speaker 2: of which we haven't seen ever maybe in many of

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Speaker 2: our lives, and the Hunter Biden story continuing to float

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Speaker 2: around out there. I also wanted to play this because

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Speaker 2: it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about the Tucker controversy and the way that

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Speaker 2: that has gone down. Some of the people that have

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Speaker 2: come out to speak up for Tucker I didn't necessarily anticipate,

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Speaker 2: including how about NFL Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Farv

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Speaker 2: weighing in on what he feels is unfair treatment that

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is receiving.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Tucker had.

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Speaker 7: I guess, the highest rated show on table TV Talk

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Speaker 7: show TV. I was on a show about a year ago,

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Speaker 7: and I got to spend a little time with Tucker

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Speaker 7: and much like yourself, just a genuine good guy, and

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Speaker 7: that also persuaded me to, you know, to speak out

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Speaker 7: because I really felt like that he was genuine. We

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Speaker 7: had dinner the night before me and my life, spent

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Speaker 7: some time with he and his crew, and I got

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Speaker 7: the impression that what you see is what you get,

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Speaker 7: and that's important. So I'm for the good guys.

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Speaker 2: What I would say here, Buck in general, and I

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Speaker 2: think this is a good life lesson for everybody. Your

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Speaker 2: public and your private life at some point, no matter

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Speaker 2: what you do for a living, are likely to become intertwined.

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Speaker 2: And what I mean by that, even if you're not

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Speaker 2: a celebrity. Celebrities have dealt with this public versus private

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Speaker 2: dichotomy for a long time. One reason that I think

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Speaker 2: people are rallying around Tucker to such an extent is

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Speaker 2: every video that is being leaked about Tucker Carlson from

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes privately that were not these videos that

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Speaker 2: were not anticipated we would ever see everybody's watching them

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Speaker 2: and being like, Yeah, Tucker's pretty much the same guy

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Speaker 2: that he is on television as he was in his

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Speaker 2: private life. The public and the private are not diametrically opposed.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true to a large extent for both

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Speaker 2: of us, Buck, which is why I don't really worry

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Speaker 2: I have a public profile when I'm in college football

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Speaker 2: games everything else. What are you really going to say

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Speaker 2: about me? That it's different than what I would say

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Speaker 2: on the radio show. I think Tucker is that way too.

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Speaker 2: Makes it really hard to attack someone when they are

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Speaker 2: their authentic selves.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it reminds me of when I was

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Speaker 3: meeting some of Clay's really lovely and friendly fellow Frank

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Speaker 3: Lenian's or Franklinit's and about two or three minutes in

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Speaker 3: the conce it's a beautiful scene. We're out there in

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Speaker 3: the grass, there are bands playing. Their booze is flowing,

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Speaker 3: not bud light. The booze is. By the way, Clay

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Speaker 3: made the Daily Mail with his bud light video. Everyone,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to put this up at clayanbuck dot

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Speaker 3: COM's ever can see, so go to clanbuck dot com.

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Speaker 3: You'll see he had this video that he took of

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Speaker 3: the bud light cooler. Well one was a cooler bud

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Speaker 3: light and one was other beers to see and no

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Speaker 3: one drank any of the bud light. No bud light

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Speaker 3: was being consumed at this event. And we didn't tell

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Speaker 3: any It just was the choice that everybody made. But

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Speaker 3: as I was talking to your your your neighbors out

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Speaker 3: there in Tennessee, a couple times I caught myself because

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Speaker 3: I was like the Southern border and the Second Amendment

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Speaker 3: and bird Biden, and I'm like, I'm sorry, it's a

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Speaker 3: lovely day here. I need to stop. So we're the

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Speaker 3: same all the time, folks, for good, for good, or

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Speaker 3: for worse, for better or for worse.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's an instructive lesson because I think

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Speaker 2: a lot about this with my kids, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you do as well. With social media and what they're

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Speaker 2: putting out there into the world, it's hard to get

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Speaker 2: blown up if you are as you profess to be,

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Speaker 2: both privately and publicly. But I think again, people in

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Speaker 2: the public eye have had to think about this for

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Speaker 2: a long time. But one of the biggest changes I

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Speaker 2: would say that's occurred in the last six, seven, ten

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Speaker 2: years is everybody's now in the public eye. You can

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Speaker 2: go from totally anonymous to suddenly number one story on

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Speaker 2: Daily Mail, FOXNEWSCNN dot Com in the space of about

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: So are you prepared?

654
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Speaker 2: Are you living your life in a way that if

655
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Speaker 2: that were to occur. People would that know you mostly say, oh,

656
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: that's the person that that I know. If the answer

657
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: is yes, that's the ultimate armor. I really think it.

658
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Speaker 3: Is the only the only safety in this era we

659
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: all live in, folks, is truth and authenticity. If you

660
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: just make the truth and you are who are all

661
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: the time, it doesn't really matter. And it's true of

662
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: people in media, but it's true in all of our

663
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: all of our lives, all the way that we act.

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Speaker 3: And you know, unless you want to be a leftist,

665
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: the benefit of being a leftist is you get to

666
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: promote things publicly that privately you hate. You get to

667
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: do things that you say other people shouldn't do. That's

668
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: the upside. You know, it's like a Beelzebub style. You know,

669
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Speaker 3: you just get to kind of make it up as

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Speaker 3: you go along.

671
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: No doubt when we come back, Dan Wetzel of Yahoo

672
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: Sports is going to join us. Huge story. Almost no

673
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: one is talking about. I just talked about public versus private.

674
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: What happens when you are accused of a heinous crime.

675
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: When you are a football player and you're accused of

676
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: gain raping a girl at a party, you lose your job.

677
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: Everybody says you should be in jail, and then it

678
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: turns out she lied about all of it. How does

679
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: that play out? Our story?

680
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: Next?

681
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

682
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go

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Speaker 2: subscribe on the podcast. Tens of millions of monthly downloads

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Speaker 2: as a.

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686
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: You can also listen certainly on the five hundred plus

687
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: AMFM stations all over the country, as many of you

688
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: are doing right now, and i'd encourage you to go

689
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: subscribe to our YouTube page where you can get video

690
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: versions of some of these radio segments. We want to

691
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Speaker 2: be everywhere that you are. You can find Buck and

692
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: myself on pretty much every social media platform. Clay Travis

693
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: buck Sexton. Okay, we bring in now friend of mine,

694
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: Dan Wetzel at Yahoo Sports, who has done a really

695
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: great job over the years of covering court related legal

696
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: proceedings that involve sports. Many of you may have seen

697
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Dan in an excellent Netflix documentary that dealt with the

698
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Hernandez murder trials. And Dan, you wrote a story yesterday.

699
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on this show. You wrote a story

700
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: yesterday that I read in the afternoon and immediately.

701
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: Wanted to share with everyone.

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00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna give a little bit of a background,

703
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: and then I want you to kind of weligh out

704
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: for everybody who may not be familiar with this case.

705
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: There's a great punter who punted at San Diego State.

706
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: They called him the punt God. His name Matt Areza.

707
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Buffalo Bills. He was considered

708
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: to be an elite kicking talent. Story comes out during

709
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: what would have been his rookie year. I believe before

710
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: the season even began, that a girl had accused him

711
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: of gang rape, really violent kind. The Bill saw this story.

712
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: It was a civil lawsuit. There was an investigation that

713
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: had been ongoing. Criminally, Bill saw this story, cut him

714
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: from the team, said he could not be a member

715
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: of the team. And now as we come up on

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Speaker 2: nine some odd months after that, you have written about

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00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: the investigation and basically all of the claims that the

718
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: girl made are one hundred percent untrue based on what

719
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Speaker 2: the San Diego Police Department discovered. I want you to

720
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Speaker 2: lay out if I roughly synopsize that correctly, and where

721
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: are we how did you come to see this story

722
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Speaker 2: and what do you think it says in a larger

723
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Speaker 2: context about the lack of coverage that the vindication is

724
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Speaker 2: getting compared to the accusation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so thanks for having me on the cases. This

726
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 5: so a civil lawsuit comes out. The police in San

727
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 5: die had spent ten month investigating the criminal charges. Was

728
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Speaker 5: there a gang rape? This is a seventeen year old

729
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 5: girl who went to a party at San Diego State

730
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Speaker 5: just off the campus, a lot of football players there,

731
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Speaker 5: and then reported she had been raped by multiple people

732
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Speaker 5: and there was an investigation, had no criminal chargemen filed,

733
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Speaker 5: so a reason had kind of moved on with his life.

734
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Speaker 5: And then the civil suit comes out and includes just

735
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: you know, ghastly allegations, including him throwing her down on

736
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Speaker 5: a bed, and then we're in a room with three

737
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Speaker 5: other men and a violent, you know, ninety minute gang

738
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Speaker 5: rape goes on, and she's seventeen and she's intoxicated and

739
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 5: all that stuff. What z Onway's interesting was that the

740
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 5: police hadn't charged him right, and the San Diego police

741
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 5: put in a recommendation of no charges after a ten

742
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 5: month investigation. The prosecutor's office in San Diego County launched

743
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: their own investigation into this one hundred and twenty four

744
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: days totally. There were thirty five people interviewed that had

745
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 5: been at this party. They did search warrants to get

746
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 5: video footage from phones, pictures, texts, anything that they could

747
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 5: possibly get it. There's two exhaustive things, and on December seventh,

748
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: the San Diego County Police prosecutors said no criminal charges

749
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: on matter reason or anybody else. But they did not

750
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 5: elaborate other than there's no criminal charges, and so you

751
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: still had this civil suit out there and you had

752
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 5: no criminal charges. But that could often be well, something

753
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 5: might have happened, but we just can't prove it, or

754
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: we're just not taken on this case for whatever reason.

755
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: It doesn't totally exonerate someone. And if you're an NFL team,

756
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 5: you're a little nervous about the whole deal. This is

757
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: a punter, not a quarterback, So nobody knew quite the details,

758
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: including a raza, until very recently when what was unsealed

759
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: in court. What was unsealed was a transcript of the

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Speaker 5: meeting between the San Diego County prosecutors and the girl

761
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: and her attorney, and they over an hour and forty

762
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 5: minutes laid out the case on why they couldn't charge,

763
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Speaker 5: and they went through a great deal of the evidence,

764
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Speaker 5: including the exculpatory evidence, the videos of what they saw

765
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 5: on all the different stuff, and that got unsealed, and

766
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: by being able to read this, it's over two hundred

767
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: pages of a transcript. The prosecutors are basically laying out

768
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Speaker 5: all of the stuff that makes it clear that Matta

769
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: Raza could never be prosecuted this. And you know, I

770
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: think many reasonable people would say it's completely innocent. Here.

771
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Speaker 5: There's still a civil suit going and you could have

772
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: a trial where he's found with a preponderance of evidence.

773
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: But I think anyone that reads this will will certainly

774
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: take and you know, it's very interesting reading for you.

775
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: The most important part is the worst allegation is that

776
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 5: he had thrown the girl down on that bed and

777
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: led to the gang ring facts through the timestamps of

778
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: videos that were taken, photos, witness testimony, and everything else,

779
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 5: Matta rays that had left the party forty five minutes

780
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: to an hour before that alleged gang rape, which the

781
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: prosecutors don't actually believe they could ever prosecute anyone for

782
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: and are cast an enormous amount of doubt ever occurred

783
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 5: as a rape. But regardless of what happened or didn't

784
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: happen in that bedroom, Matta Rasa left that party an

785
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: hour before. Now there's additional did have an encounter with

786
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: her that evening? He says it was consensual, she does not.

787
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 5: There's a ton of witnesses, there is, there's a whole

788
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 5: bunch of evidence that suggests, certainly in the in the mind,

789
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 5: you know, so take my word for it. The San

790
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: Diego County prosecutors that that was a consensual deal and

791
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: there's no way to ever prosecute him on this. So

792
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: if you read this, this transcript, and this is now

793
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: available to any NFL team to reach you, would you

794
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 5: would certainly look at this case in a very different

795
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 5: light because there's a tremendous amount of exculpatory evidence uh

796
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: provided by the district attorney and the police for Matta

797
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: Rais's case.

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Speaker 3: Look, I appreciate you joining us, Dan, It's buck. I

799
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: just want to know the NFL side of this and

800
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: the team that released him, what was their process. Just

801
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: we don't want even the possibility of there being any

802
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: issue here. And do you think there's any legal remedy

803
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: that Matta Raysa may have.

804
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the Bills had said they were aware that

805
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 5: something had gone on. They have these teams have private investigators.

806
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 5: They investigate, uh, you know, virtually every every player in

807
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: their team, all sorts of people they might possibly draft.

808
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: They go to try to find stuff out to play,

809
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: you know, get ahead of these things. So they they

810
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 5: were aware that there was this allegation out there, but

811
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 5: they employed him anyway. So originally they did not think

812
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: it was a problem. I think both the the gravity

813
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: and the how graphic the allegations was, and then the

814
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 5: public firestorm and media firestorm after the civil lawsuit came

815
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 5: out is what the Bills just said. Look, we can't

816
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: We're just not going to deal with this. Matt needs

817
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 5: to handle this on its own. This is a punter. Again,

818
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: if he was a quarterback, they might deal with it.

819
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: But as good of a punter as he is, you

820
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 5: can get. You can get a punter. Uh, it's just

821
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: a matter of are you worth that that headache? So

822
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 5: I don't know. My guess is they have the right

823
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 5: to cut anybody they want on those teams. The NFL

824
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: is very smart with their their contracts. So I don't

825
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: know that he could sit there and say I was

826
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 5: wrongly fired for this. And I don't know how much

827
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: blame he can really throw on the bills. They could

828
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: have they could have fought and kept them. But there

829
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 5: was there was a lot that nobody knew, including arranged

830
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: his defense team until recently.

831
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Speaker 2: Okay, So i'd encourage you to go read Dan Wetzel's

832
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: story at Yahoo's Sports. It'll be up linked at Clayanbuck

833
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: dot com. You can also find it linked in my

834
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: twitter feed at and you can find it certainly in

835
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: dan we twitter feed at Dan Wetzel.

836
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: Last question for you, Dan.

837
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: When you compare the amount of coverage that the accusation

838
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: of the gang rate got and the fact that this

839
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: cost matter raise his job with the Buffalo Bills his

840
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: good name, and you compare the amount of coverage that

841
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: I would say, pretty clearly the vindication that is the

842
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: fact that he did not do this has gotten. How

843
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: would you compare the discrepancy between the two, and what

844
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: do you attribute that to?

845
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not spend a lot of time worrying about

846
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 5: anyone else's writing, but I guess it's much less.

847
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: You know, the accusation.

848
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: It might be saying, let's say there was one hundred

849
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: articles written about the accusation the vindication, would you say

850
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: there's been four, like I mean, it's almost one hundred

851
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: to one.

852
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: I bet.

853
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: It may be. It may be, but we're still covering

854
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: it and we're still writing about it, and we're not

855
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 5: done with it. But yeah, I'm sure that the sensationalism,

856
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 5: the sensational nature of the the u of the allegation

857
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 5: and the way it was covered was was significant and

858
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 5: and it certainly hasn't been quite that level. Uh, I

859
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: would guess, But again I'm not. We'll see what happens.

860
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 5: I understand what your your point is, and it may

861
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 5: at the app may prove to be correct, and I

862
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: guess it probably will. But it is still early in

863
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 5: the story. So all I can do is my job,

864
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: and I worry about the other people's. But you know,

865
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 5: it's it's he is hoping that the ability to get

866
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: back in the NFL camp and compete for a job

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Speaker 5: rests on the American public and the fans knowing that

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Speaker 5: he's the facts that are out there and they can

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Speaker 5: make up their mind, and it's no longer a public

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Speaker 5: group It's not just a public relations battle of how

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Speaker 5: could you? Why would you ever have a punter that

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Speaker 5: has been accused of raping a seventeen year old girl? Right? Well, now,

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Speaker 5: if you maybe know all the details, you say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we want that guy. And so that's what they're thrown

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Speaker 5: out there. So he's certainly welcoming as much media coverage

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Speaker 5: as he can possibly get for the story.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Wetzel at Dan Wetzel on Twitter. Go follow

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Speaker 2: in there. You can go read this article yourself.

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Speaker 5: Dan.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the time. Thanks by thanks Buck, Thank you

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Buck, and we come back. I just want to ask

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Speaker 2: and I bet you do too, Buck. What happens when

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Speaker 2: someone makes up a story like this, a vile story

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Speaker 2: alleging that you were gang raping her, that you ripped

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Speaker 2: all of her piercings out. It cost you a job,

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Speaker 2: everyone judges you, drags you through the mud, and then

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Speaker 2: it turns out that you're one hundred percent innocent. This

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Speaker 2: girl's name is still protected under rape shield laws. She

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Speaker 2: bears almost no consequences. Shouldn't it be the case?

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Speaker 3: Just want to ask this question.

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Speaker 2: If you are proven to have made false criminal allegations

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Speaker 2: that could put someone behind bars, and it is one

895
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Speaker 2: hundred percent proven that your allegations are false, shouldn't you

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Speaker 2: face criminal accusations and punishment yourself.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that fair?

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Speaker 2: Because otherwise what kind of vindication do we have? This

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Speaker 2: is not a two way street. I want to float

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Speaker 2: this idea.

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Speaker 3: You should.

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Speaker 2: I believe if you make a false rape accusation, you

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Speaker 2: should face the same amount of time in prison that

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Speaker 2: the person would have faced if he had been found

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Speaker 2: guilty of that crime. You should be prosecuted. In my mind,

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Speaker 2: we need some new state laws to be drafted in

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Speaker 2: order for that to occur. I know there are malicious

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Speaker 2: prosecution statutes things like that, but there should be consequences

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Speaker 2: when you make up a lie about someone like this.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, we'll talk about it eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: two eight two two eight eight two. Some of you

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Speaker 2: may disagree, some of you may agree.

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Speaker 3: You can weigh in.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Dan Wetsall, I thought that was fantastic, And

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