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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and Hee Armstrong and Getty Strong and

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Speaker 2: Hey Armstrong and Getty. We are not live today. We

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Speaker 2: know there's so much news going on, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: it for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, it's a company holiday and we're lazy, so we're

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Speaker 3: taking it off. But we will grind all the harder

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Speaker 3: tomorrow to bring you all the stories that matter without left.

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Speaker 2: Wing media bias. You'll actually know what's going on. Now.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Armstrong and Getty replay.

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Speaker 4: Yay took out a full page adam The Wall Street

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Speaker 4: Journal apologizing for his past anti Semitic comments, saying they

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Speaker 4: were due to an un diagnosed brain injury from a

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Speaker 4: car crash twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 4: Even when it comes to excuses, he's a creative genius.

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Speaker 2: So I was taking in those are Saturday Night Live jokes.

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Speaker 2: I was taken in an old Cod and O'Brien podcast

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Speaker 2: where he had on Jim Downey, who was a writer

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Speaker 2: way way way back in the day on Saturday Night Live,

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Speaker 2: and they were talking about the best joke. He and

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Speaker 2: Norm MacDonald livery road for that's an a weekend update.

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Speaker 2: And it was when Penthouse Magazine got the alien autopsy photos.

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Speaker 2: This was a thing back in the day. There were

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Speaker 2: photos of apparently, you know, on a spaceship crashed and

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Speaker 2: then they did an autopsy on the alien and the

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Speaker 2: government had the pictures. So Penthouse claimed to have the

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Speaker 2: alien autopsy photos. And the review was the photos are clear, detailed,

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Speaker 2: and surprisingly easy to masturbate. Two, which is a pretty

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Speaker 2: funny joke, said terror we did. Now let's clean this up.

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Speaker 2: Come on, that's terrible. Why would you?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, good lord. H So this is a

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Speaker 3: this is not a funny story at all. You may

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Speaker 3: recall this. Back in March of twenty one, a story

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Speaker 3: got nationwide blanket media coverage alleged that white middle schoolers

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Speaker 3: in Plano, Texas, viciously tortured young Samerian Humphrey, their black classmate,

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Speaker 3: forcing him to drink their urine at a sleepover that

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Speaker 3: they invited him to with nefarious purpose as they shot him.

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Speaker 2: With BB guns. Oh my god, so shot him with

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Speaker 2: BB guns, made him drink urine.

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Speaker 3: A Black Lives Matter activist group charged the local public

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Speaker 3: school district with doing nothing to stop this racially motivated

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Speaker 3: hate crime. Violent protests broke out outside the home of

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Speaker 3: Asher Van, the white child alleged to have organized brutal attack.

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Speaker 3: Major media outlets including NBCCBSCNN, Business Insider, People Magazine, The

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Speaker 3: Daily Mail, The Daly Morning News and others pounced down

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Speaker 3: the story. Is Humphrey, his mother, Summer Smith, and their attorney,

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Speaker 3: Kim Cole, embarked on a media tour where they called

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Speaker 3: Van evil.

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Speaker 2: The trio appeared on Good Morning.

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Speaker 3: America, where ABC host Lindsay Davis promoted a go fundome

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Speaker 3: account that raised about one hundred and twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: to help pay for Humphreys. That's the Kids Therapy and

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Speaker 3: private schooling. Racial activist groups added fuel to the fire.

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Speaker 3: The NAACP dressed down the leaders of the school district

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Speaker 3: in a town hall they described as the beginning of

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Speaker 3: an open partnership spurred by the alleged hate crime. Let's

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Speaker 3: see another Black Lives Matter TID group was leader. Alleged

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Speaker 3: Humphrey was tortured for days by his white assailants. Organized

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Speaker 3: public marches that drew hundreds of thousands of protesters. And

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Speaker 3: raised tons and tons of money, and then a little

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Speaker 3: under five years later, about a week and a half ago,

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Speaker 3: a racially diverse Texas jury including four black members, ruled

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Speaker 3: unanimously the whole thing was a hoax. Texas District Judge

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Speaker 3: Benjamin Smith ordered Smith that's the mother, and Cole, the attorney,

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Speaker 3: to pay three point two million dollars in damages to Van,

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Speaker 3: who's now a young adult I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sending his first year of college. Guessing they don't have

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Speaker 3: No, indeed, but for intentionally sparing him and tarnishing his

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Speaker 3: future earning potential during their media tour.

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Speaker 2: You'll never it'd be impossible to bounce back for that practically.

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Speaker 3: The ruling followed a civil trial in October of twenty five,

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Speaker 3: where the jury determined that col and Smith cooked up

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Speaker 3: the scheme to raise their public profiles during the height

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Speaker 3: money through go fund Me, and court records show that Smith,

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Speaker 3: the loving mother, put less than one thousand dollars of

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Speaker 3: schooling account. Statements reviewed by the Washington Freebeacon show the

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Speaker 3: remaining funds were spent on everybody.

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Speaker 2: Can fill in these blanks, right, yeah, yeah, luxury, he's

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Speaker 2: including a designer, dog, dining, travel, beauty products, liquor, vage,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you I should do this. I should

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Speaker 2: put my morals aside and do this. The next time

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Speaker 2: there's a craze, got a craze going, jump on it.

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Speaker 2: Come up with something and profit from it. Whether it's

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Speaker 2: whether it's inventing the Black Lives Matter thing and the

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Speaker 2: there's a craze going on, jump on it somehow. The

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Speaker 2: ice out thing hot is my namies? Right it might be? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: come on, I'm not sure exactly how you can turn

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Speaker 2: that into cash, but you gotta put a little effort

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Speaker 2: into it. Right. I can put one of my kids

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Speaker 2: in one of those little blue hats, put them behind

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Speaker 2: a chain like fence. Oh yeah, that little kid in

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Speaker 2: the blue hat, a cute little fellow, God bless him,

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Speaker 2: but he was the lead story.

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Speaker 3: First five minutes the ABC News were spent on that kid.

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: You got it.

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Speaker 3: Whatever his name is, we'll just call them, you know,

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Speaker 3: little Blue Hat, the Little Blue Hat Fund for Immigrant Dignity.

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Speaker 3: Then you come up with, you know, three sentences for

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Speaker 3: how you help you know, immigrants who have been battered

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Speaker 3: and abused by the racist Ice services, including blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: There are thousands of kids who have been taken from

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Speaker 2: their parents by the evil Ice. I'm gonna help every

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Speaker 2: single one of them, like and always use that same

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Speaker 2: picture that they will get in the Blue Hat. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and uh, I'll bet you could raise it two million

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Speaker 2: those families together, and I spend on them whatever the

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Speaker 2: hell I want, and nobody figures it out for years

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Speaker 2: if they care at all. Right, and then they come

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Speaker 2: with a judgment against you.

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Speaker 3: But you've already bought your laquor in your vapes and

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Speaker 3: you made your car payments. My designer dog, your designer dog,

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Speaker 3: it's a Yeves Assault Loreen dog.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly short. A designer dog is probably a fancy

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Speaker 2: pure press. You got a leg on top, an extra leg,

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Speaker 2: that's howf on guard. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Put your

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Speaker 2: morals aside. What good are they? What good have they

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Speaker 2: so we got into a real thing about he's an atheist,

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Speaker 2: from and why they don't really matter. I told me, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got to be a philosophy major, and you just,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you sound like a lot of friends I

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Speaker 3: And you just got to warn them when you're talking

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Speaker 3: to people in their eyes glaze over, that's not allergies.

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Speaker 2: You're boring them to. Well, you got to find someone

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Speaker 2: for life. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's something about the

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Speaker 2: only it's only from a I mean, I suppose this

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Speaker 2: But I fully one thousand percent believe there's something else

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Speaker 2: of of maybe I'm wrong for whatever reason. Wow, how interesting.

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Speaker 2: He's the other direction. And you know, the only reason

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Speaker 2: Groups that didn't take from each other or could police

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Speaker 2: where they didn't. It's adaptive. It's adaptive, yes, which it

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Speaker 2: it's a genetic thing. There seems there does seem to

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Speaker 2: young age. As we all know, with kids, this idea

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Speaker 2: one to nail down as opposed to you know, there's

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Speaker 2: that sort of quote unquote philosophical discussion I could have.

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Speaker 2: It's where you get into the you know, there is

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Speaker 2: I have a friend he got his masters in philosophy

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Speaker 2: But I always get to the point of, you know,

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Speaker 2: something I gotta I got longer in the dryer, right,

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Speaker 2: I gotta cut the grass.

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Speaker 3: The grass is actually growing. Yeah, how do you know

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is all a simulation, and maybe it is,

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Speaker 2: but it still needs to be cut. What is the

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Speaker 2: nature of knowing? I know, I'm bored. Can I go

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Speaker 2: do something else? One thing I'm knowing, I'm knowing I'm bored. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Epistemology. Yeah, the free will,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. And if you and if you, if

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Speaker 2: would it make a lick of difference to anyone? I

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Speaker 3: I lose interest in very quickly. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: there's no reason for anybody to contemplate this stuff.

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Speaker 2: If you enjoy it, going, No, that's okay, you're you're

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Speaker 3: It, right, Hey, don't tell me about it. And when

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Speaker 3: you can't make a living, don't come begging for my

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Speaker 2: Well that's well, yes, I have free will. I could

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Speaker 2: do this or that. Yeah, but you don't, actually, because

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Speaker 2: you were conditioned by society and genetics too. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: got to pick up my kid.

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Speaker 3: From school, so yeah, I've been conditioned by society and

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Speaker 3: so goodbye.

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Speaker 2: Even if it.

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Speaker 3: So here's your freedom of u being quoted today from

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Speaker 2: Now we need to outlie hate speech. Well done, Ben,

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Speaker 3: Right, It's all tribal signaling, and nobody even cares that

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Speaker 1: Yikes, Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show,

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Speaker 2: In Spain, they're rushing through basically, it's an amnesty thing

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, all those you point out, quite appropriately,

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Speaker 2: ten about why that's not a good idea. There are

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Speaker 5: That we should simply provide those who are illegally with

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Speaker 2: I'll be darned that would never happen.

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Speaker 5: And it would also ignore the millions of people around

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and

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Speaker 2: What set laws for residency?

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Speaker 5: We do, citizenship we do fashist, fascist, and no matter

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's uh, Stephen Miller from the White House. Sorry, mister, yeah, exactly, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: mister President. I don't know if you know this, but

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Speaker 2: crap you said jokingly, Barack Obama moderate, He would be

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing would be controversial. You could never

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Speaker 3: If you could, I'm picturing rama Manuel's version of that,

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Speaker 2: And and and if you could, it's only because the

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Speaker 2: If you came here illegally, there's got to be some

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Speaker 3: We can't reward illegal immigration in nineteen of the twenty.

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Speaker 2: Please. Yeah. Can you imagine the booze that would have

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Speaker 2: that's amazing that we have changed that much in that

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Speaker 2: I react to it. I know I hellor Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by the concept of how different people's differently

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Speaker 3: It's just what's being advocated right now feels like a

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Speaker 2: I think that at all. I think the overwhelming feeling

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Speaker 3: Right, being accepted, saying what I'm supposed to say, and

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Speaker 2: The nice thing to do would be allow people to

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Speaker 2: the But how would that work? How could we afford

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Speaker 3: And then if they you know, because it'd be one

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Speaker 2: guy like if somebody says I disagree, he doesn't care.

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Speaker 3: It's like a superpower. Or he thinks, oh, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't feel at all threatened to buy people disagreeing

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Speaker 3: with him.

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Speaker 2: He's intrigued by it. Wha you wear birkenstocks, they wear

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Speaker 2: normal shoes. You start taking back.

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Speaker 3: I would bring my own shoes. I don't know how

439
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Speaker 3: far do we have to go in this? Are you

440
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Speaker 3: gonna wear their underpants too?

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Speaker 2: It's the matter with you, you bring your own stuff,

442
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Speaker 2: you just stay in their pad. Ah, boy, I would

443
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Speaker 2: be freaked out by that. I love that idea.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so I don't know what do y'all think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are obviously, you know, like your hardcore

446
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Speaker 3: political activists are just liars, cynical liars. They know perfectly

447
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Speaker 3: well the difference between what Barack and Hillary were saying

448
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Speaker 3: in twenty ten, twenty fifteen, whatever, and what they're saying

449
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Speaker 3: now they just don't care their cynics. But your average

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Speaker 3: you know, left voter, not like center left Iowa farmer

451
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Speaker 3: always votes Democratic.

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Speaker 2: Here left voter, do they have any awareness of how

453
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Speaker 2: much their own position has changed? Or are they just

454
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Speaker 2: so governed by feelings they don't know? I honestly don't

455
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Speaker 2: know the answer to that question. Do you think I

456
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Speaker 2: think so? But do you think Barack Obama believed that

457
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Speaker 2: at the time. I think he did. I think he

458
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Speaker 2: did too. Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, because it's right.

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Speaker 2: For one thing, it's just one hundred percent correct everything

460
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Speaker 2: he said right right.

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Speaker 3: I think he was holding out hope that Congress could

462
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Speaker 3: come together and come up with an immigration plan that

463
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Speaker 3: would get a few of his his wish lists passed.

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Speaker 2: So I did hear two more things on immigration. I

465
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Speaker 2: heard somebody say, and this might be true, that Trump

466
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Speaker 2: wanted such a big, splashy, chaotic, ugly, we ain't putting

467
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Speaker 2: up with this anymore, that it completely maybe for a generation,

468
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Speaker 2: sends a message to the world, don't come. Not just

469
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Speaker 2: Kamala and Biden saying don't while rolling out the red

470
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Speaker 2: carpet and promising free health care, but like don't as in,

471
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Speaker 2: we're going to drag you out of your house, and

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Speaker 2: it probably would work. And that's probably what's actually going

473
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Speaker 2: to happen. It'll be a long time before you have

474
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Speaker 2: what do they call those caravans headed toward the border

475
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Speaker 2: thinking they can come in and just enjoy, you know,

476
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Speaker 2: being in the United States setting up shop. I think

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Speaker 2: it'll be a long time for that happens, probably what

478
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Speaker 2: further than Trump wanted, and it's turned in to blowback

479
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Speaker 2: and all that.

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Speaker 3: But but what if, like I don't know, something crazy happens,

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Speaker 3: then the Democrats just win the House with big numbers

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Speaker 3: and it's a lefty left y not a Rama manual

483
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Speaker 3: but a Gavin Newsom. You don't think those borders will

484
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Speaker 3: be opened immediately in order to filter out quickly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, certainly might happen. And then one other

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Speaker 2: thing on this and then we can move on because

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Speaker 2: there's some other thing I want to bring up.

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Speaker 3: Which, by the way, is why you don't do stupid

489
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Speaker 3: stuff so you don't lose that election.

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Speaker 2: And well it's also a reason why you pass legislation.

491
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Speaker 2: Of course, there is legislation around illegal immigration, just lots

492
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Speaker 2: of people don't want to follow it. But it's a

493
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Speaker 2: lot harder to change laws than it is you know,

494
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Speaker 2: executive orders and enforcement of laws by presidencies, so it

495
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Speaker 2: doesn't swing back and forth so fast. The other thing is,

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Speaker 2: I heard Brian kill me to say this on Fox

497
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Speaker 2: and Friends this morning. I haven't heard this anywhere else.

498
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Speaker 2: So the Democrats are saying they're not going to vote

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Speaker 2: for the next bill that funds the government unless you

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Speaker 2: pull the DHS money out of it. You need to

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Speaker 2: pull the da just money out of it. We'll vote

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Speaker 2: on that separately, I guess.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 2: Republicans are saying no, so, and you need sixty votes

505
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Speaker 2: to pass the legislation, so Democrats could actually hold it

506
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Speaker 2: up on that. Kill Mead's theory was that big long

507
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Speaker 2: government shut down that had no effect on me, but

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Speaker 2: I guess it did on some of you. The longest

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Speaker 2: shutdown we've ever had recently had an actual measurable effect

510
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Speaker 2: on the economy. The government is so freaking big, and

511
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Speaker 2: it lasts long enough. It's the only like real blip

512
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Speaker 2: we've had in economic growth in a while. And he

513
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Speaker 2: thinks they want another shut down. With another blip in

514
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Speaker 2: economic growth headed into the midterms, that's a reason to

515
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Speaker 2: shut the government down, and this is a great excuse

516
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Speaker 2: for it. They could blame the tariffs, which honestly I'm

517
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Speaker 2: still against. I don't think they're good for the economy.

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Speaker 3: But uh wow, wow wow, that would be really really cynical,

519
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Speaker 3: which means it's probably likely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck Schumer says, Hey, man, we got the win

521
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: at our back on this whole Minneapolis ice thing. We

522
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Speaker 2: say we're going to shut down the government over this.

523
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Speaker 2: People will be on board with us, and we can

524
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Speaker 2: shut down the government a while and hurt the economy.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and the Armstrong and Getty shot.

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Speaker 6: Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world

527
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Speaker 6: can write anything they want about any subject, so you

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Speaker 6: know you are getting the best possible information.

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Speaker 2: That's from the office Wikipedia debuted twenty five years ago today.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you said, Michael So in the year

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Speaker 2: two thousand and one, I have used Wikipedia up until

532
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Speaker 2: AI chatbots, many many men, many times, practically daily, Google

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Speaker 2: and Wikipedia. Now I never use them at all because

534
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Speaker 2: I use Rock or Claude or something else. How long

535
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Speaker 2: ago was it that Wikipedia swung wildly progressive. Is that

536
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Speaker 2: like years of Good ten years ago, I'm still amazed

537
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Speaker 2: by Groc and Claude and Gemini and chat GPT, all

538
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Speaker 2: of which I use, And that some of the things

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Speaker 2: they get wrong. For instance, Claude as asking about the

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Speaker 2: hottest movie in America, the most talked about movie in

541
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Speaker 2: America is right now is One Battle after Another won

542
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of golden globes. One of the biggest

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Speaker 2: directors in world history, this big movie. Ask Claude about it,

544
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Speaker 2: and they just, I don't know what you're talking about.

545
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Speaker 2: I got nothing here, and I said, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: big movie fan. I even gave the director and it said, well,

547
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Speaker 2: here are the movies that Paul Thomas Anderson has directed,

548
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Speaker 2: and listened to all of them, but that he has

549
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Speaker 2: not directed a movie called I'm like, how could this happen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just stunning, Yeah, that that can happen

551
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Speaker 2: and disturbing, And how often does that happen with things

552
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Speaker 2: I don't know about? When I'm asking you to questions

553
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Speaker 2: and it tells me stuff which kind of leads me

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Speaker 2: to this and this will I asked a chatbot for

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Speaker 2: this answer, which is kind of like cannibalism, I guess,

556
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: but it was quoting Forbes and a bunch of other

557
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Speaker 2: tech magazines and therapists and stuff like that about what

558
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Speaker 2: automation and using tech stuff and when the AI revolution

559
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Speaker 2: happens and it's doing all the jobs, what's that going

560
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: to do to people? This is what the current thinking

561
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: is by some people. Automation profoundly impacts the human mind

562
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Speaker 2: and spirit by shifting focus from mundane tasks to creative ones. Potentially, potentially,

563
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Speaker 2: just because something's potential doesn't mean it's gonna happen look

564
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Speaker 2: at me, potentially boosting purpose and reducing stress, but also

565
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Speaker 2: risking dehumanization, skill erosion, loss of control, and existential questions

566
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Speaker 2: about human value as algorithms take over judgment and meaning.

567
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a but also that's one of

568
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Speaker 2: the all time. But also is well, if AI can

569
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Speaker 2: do all the drudgery of life and all the jobs,

570
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: you don't have to do them, it also might cause

571
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Speaker 2: you to wonder why you're even alive. Right.

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Speaker 3: Luckily, ed, we have a medicine for air condition. Oh great, doc,

573
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Speaker 3: will it cure me? It certainly might.

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Speaker 2: It does kill half the people who take it so

575
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Speaker 2: open wide while free freeing humans from higher four high

576
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Speaker 2: not from while freeing humans four higher level thinking. It

577
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Speaker 2: can creatically, Yeah, it can create a sense of being

578
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: a mere data point, challenging identity and dignity obviously, and

579
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Speaker 2: shifting cultural values. Notes this Forbes article and then this

580
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Speaker 2: other article that references and that sort of stuff. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, i gotta jump in just briefly. And I'm

582
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Speaker 2: not trying to be smug, because you get the brain

583
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Speaker 2: you get and you live with it. And there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people in the world that are a

585
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Speaker 2: hell of a lot smarter than me. But I've known

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Speaker 2: a heck of a lot of.

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Speaker 3: People I don't think are like capable or interested in

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Speaker 3: quote unquote higher thinking. If you take away their job

589
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Speaker 3: and their purpose and what they do, they're not going

590
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Speaker 3: to sit around contemplating the works of Aristotle.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get drunk lay around. I would say that's

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Speaker 2: most people, wouldn't you. Is that fair to say that

593
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Speaker 2: most people aren't interested in writing the great novel or

594
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Speaker 2: learning to play the cello? Well? Right, nobody to rate

595
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: it anyway. We're working for a charity because they've got

596
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Speaker 2: so much free time and might just stare at the

597
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Speaker 2: television and drink well.

598
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Speaker 3: And as Abraham Lincoln said, God mostly love the common

599
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Speaker 3: people best because he made the most of us.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's no insult. But that's wait a minute,

601
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, wait a minute.

602
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Speaker 3: You're saying humanity is going to be freed up to

603
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Speaker 3: contemplate the higher meanings of life, and by the way,

604
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Speaker 3: you're gonna lose your humanity and have.

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Speaker 2: No skills in the rest of it. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 2: guess one of the things I find interesting is, whether

607
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Speaker 2: it's this chatbot or individuals I've heard on podcasts talking

608
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Speaker 2: about this, that they position it as it could challenge

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Speaker 2: some people's identity and feeling of dignity if they don't

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Speaker 2: have a job. Well, how are you? How are you

611
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: and I both human beings? And it's not just abundantly

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Speaker 2: clear to you that that's what will happen, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to it could happen. How do we scream forward with

614
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Speaker 2: AI eliminating all the jobs? Well though without wrestling to

615
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Speaker 2: the ground the idea, and then people are going to

616
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Speaker 2: do what? Right? I know, well, because there's no stopping it. Apparently.

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Speaker 2: What about China is what I always come back to

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Speaker 2: they don't care. Well, that's fine, but downt see any

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Speaker 2: downside to getting on getting a head start on what

620
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Speaker 2: are people going to do for any sort of feeling

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Speaker 2: of meaning in their lives when they no longer work? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. How is that like an afterthought

623
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Speaker 2: or something only pains in the ass bring up? You know,

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Speaker 2: I've I've got another one for you, unless you have

625
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Speaker 2: more contemplating on that. It was.

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Speaker 3: I was working with happen to Be chat GPT on

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Speaker 3: a project yesterday. I actually upgraded to the paid version finally,

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Speaker 3: and it was compiling lists of various information on various

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Speaker 3: topics that had to do with liberty and political freedom

630
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Speaker 3: and economic freedom and that sort of stuff. I'm working

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Speaker 3: on something I don't want to bore you with the details.

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Speaker 3: But it kept stopping and saying chat gpt is not

633
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Speaker 3: oriented to give you that sort of content.

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Speaker 2: And I asked it, hey, I keep getting this message.

635
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Speaker 3: Why It said, well, it must be because there's so

636
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Speaker 3: many references to war and revolution and death and that

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Speaker 3: sort of thing. And I'm like, you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: doing and why I'm doing it. Can't you tell yourself

639
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Speaker 3: what I'm doing, and they finally had to give me

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Speaker 3: like a half ass version so chat GPT itself wouldn't

641
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Speaker 3: keep interrupting and saying, I can't give you that because it's.

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Speaker 2: A reference to revolution. Yeah, well that's the alignment problem.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to figure that out. And so somebody's got

644
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Speaker 2: that coded to not allow people to talk about revolution

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Speaker 2: to try to keep terrorists something or other, and it's

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Speaker 2: too strict currently obviously Armstrong and Getty