Speaker 1: Now, look, let's go on over here. Man Trent McDuffie.
Speaker 2: His goal is to bring a championship over there to
Speaker 2: the West. Now, the Rams, I guess actually considered trading
Speaker 2: for AJ Brown and then explore trading Devontae Adams. But
Speaker 2: with him over there, where do you think this ranks
Speaker 2: the Rams among the NFC?
Speaker 3: Contends right at the top? I mean they still Look
Speaker 3: they played against the Seahawks.
Speaker 4: Damn they ain't even win the Super Bowl. Look, it
Speaker 4: was Seattle.
Speaker 3: They had to play against Seattle to get there, and
Speaker 3: that was the only team, the only reason why Seattle's
Speaker 3: defense was a little better, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The offense there, we met with Stafford Pooka. Them dudes
Speaker 3: were putting up crazy amounts of yards, but Sam Donald
Speaker 3: ended up balling. So I'm thinking they're they're losing. Seahawks
Speaker 3: lost more than they've gained. They lost their running back,
Speaker 3: they lost Walker, so we're gonna have to see what
Speaker 3: they looked like. They lost their starting another cornerback, I'm saying,
Speaker 3: so they defense might not be as good. I'm looking
Speaker 3: at the Rams. Their offense still intact, still status quo.
Speaker 3: So if they're going out there looking like that, and
Speaker 3: then if their defense can their past defense was the
Speaker 3: main thing. Like, I think if their past defense gets
Speaker 3: good and their defense gets better, then they're.
Speaker 4: Right right where they're at.
Speaker 3: If you have a quarterback, you have a receiver, you
Speaker 3: have the running game. Why aren't the Rams up there?
Speaker 3: The reason why they were lost was because I think
Speaker 3: the defense kind of let them down. It was never
Speaker 3: they couldn't score enough points. So if they can get
Speaker 3: some defense, they can end up stopping some of them
Speaker 3: so many people that are scoring on them all the time,
Speaker 3: then they right back in the mix.
Speaker 4: So I'm loving that, And I'm what.
Speaker 1: The number one contend?
Speaker 4: No, I mean, and it's who do you like? Who
Speaker 4: do you like to battle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like yeah, who I like?
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Joe, I kind of got
Speaker 2: off on a tangent of just being against you because
Speaker 2: of the Browns. Yeah, and I actually think the same thing.
Speaker 2: But I just, you know, I know you, that's what
Speaker 2: I really you. Sometimes you agree with me, You just
Speaker 2: be wanting to not I just be.
Speaker 1: Wanting to fight, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Sometimes just want to fight.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Listen, man, what was it Jeffie Rams gave up a
Speaker 2: one of five and the six. Of course, they think
Speaker 2: this man can help bring them a championship. And when
Speaker 2: you look at it, just as you said, they pass
Speaker 2: game was the achilles hell leading down the stretch hell.
Speaker 2: They were only nineteenth in the regular season giving up
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixteen yards a game, and then they
Speaker 2: jumped into the playoffs and they up that to two
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six a game. So with him being
Speaker 2: in there, I'm one hundred percent. You know, I'm one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I see I almost I'm on.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent with you that I think this puts
Speaker 2: to see as the number one contenders over there because
Speaker 2: they had him when it was time for them when
Speaker 2: they were playing Seattle, then it would have been the
Speaker 2: opportunity where him being on the field could have led
Speaker 2: them to be in there planning in that championship game.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm one hundred percent with you on that.
Speaker 2: I just like I said, Joe, I kind of got into.
Speaker 4: My Yeah, you just ready to go against me.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Soon I get to talking about as soon as I
Speaker 3: get excited about the Browns, you just get hype and
Speaker 3: mad something.
Speaker 4: It's something to eat up inside of them because you're like,
Speaker 4: oh you just yeah, you get real mad man, real mad.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 2: I mean even the I mean they considered even getting AJ,
Speaker 2: like I guess. On Friday, The Athletic reported that the
Speaker 2: Egos had serious conversations about the trade for a J
Speaker 2: Brown with oh, the Rams and the Patriots due the
Speaker 2: Rams are out of it, and I guess the Patriots
Speaker 2: they're saying, are still in play. Brother, they're looking at
Speaker 2: possibility of doing a deal after June first. So according
Speaker 2: to I guess that was heard that that was Flor's
Speaker 2: that I was seeing that on right. There a bunch
Speaker 2: of possible moves, but from the moves that were made,
Speaker 2: especially the McDuffie move, I really feel.
Speaker 4: Like they, dude, what if they got AJ.
Speaker 3: If they got AJ where they had got they would
Speaker 3: have had to get rid of You think they would
Speaker 3: have got rid of Davante or somebody. They got rid
Speaker 3: of Davonte then, because I don't think they're gonna have
Speaker 3: it no way it's going would have been Pookah AJ
Speaker 3: and Davante because then.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. Though I think a J.
Speaker 2: I think AJ is like for twenty I think is
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 3: If UCA's not going anywhere, they got to sign who's
Speaker 3: not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: So I mean, if I was them, I was just
Speaker 4: keep it.
Speaker 3: I mean, keep us status quote, Steven, keep us status
Speaker 3: quot because it's even Davonte, he's still He's had fourteen
Speaker 3: touchdowns this year and Matthew Stafford is tossing it to him.
Speaker 3: Money's good. I'm just keeping the status quo. I'm just
Speaker 3: keeping it just like it is. You gotta get Pook
Speaker 3: of the bag. He's still stealing because he's the he's
Speaker 3: the young one. So when he gets up, you got
Speaker 3: Davonte that chilling. You don't hear much, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, stand out the way.
Speaker 2: And that was something else I was thinking too him,
Speaker 2: Like how's that gonna go? What if he don't get
Speaker 2: the ball? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know how you take off when he don't You know,
Speaker 4: he don't get the rock. I'm like playing with.
Speaker 3: The Rams, Matthew Stafford, you got to get your the
Speaker 3: highest receiver. He doesn't get Kyvin Johnson the passing record.
Speaker 3: He done gave my man Cooper Cup the record, and
Speaker 3: then he gave Pooking the cool of the record. If
Speaker 3: you play with Matthew Stafford, you going for the record.
Speaker 4: Man, Matthew staff need to be up in to be
Speaker 4: That's what I'm.
Speaker 3: Trying to tell you, de Bo when he's Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame because his talent, he can just throw the ball
Speaker 3: so good. And now next year, I'm not I'm rocking
Speaker 3: with what they're doing. Bring some defense because he's still
Speaker 3: he's putting up thirty points. Like when I was watching
Speaker 3: that Seahawks game. That's why I thought the Rams were
Speaker 3: legitimately going to win because I'm like, all right, we
Speaker 3: got Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford and he ended up
Speaker 3: balling out. You know what I'm saying. Sam Donald did
Speaker 3: his thing, so that's why I already had to give
Speaker 3: him all the respect.
Speaker 4: But Matthew Stafford did not underperform. Can He wasn't slacking
Speaker 4: on his pimpin like no.
Speaker 2: But also, I told you Rams, they defense is what
Speaker 2: was go get them BB's.
Speaker 1: I told you they was gonna give him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both told you told you I did not. I
Speaker 4: did not. I just I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was I was I was a I was a
Speaker 3: nonsam believer. And I had to go eat crow because
Speaker 3: now I was like no, but then, but I guess
Speaker 3: I show love when you showed me, Sam, I'm off
Speaker 3: your back.
Speaker 4: Coach, you did that.
Speaker 1: You just gotta you just gotta lead Joe to the water.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He had drink.
Speaker 1: Just gotta just gotta lead him to the I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that water.
Speaker 3: The jets they were, they were they needed to get
Speaker 3: led to the water. The vikings needed to get led
Speaker 3: to the water, all of them. So it wasn't just me.
Speaker 1: Joe shory Aikman.
Speaker 2: He said he thinks easier training camps lead or led
Speaker 2: to more early season injuries. Do you agree disagree with
Speaker 2: this statement?
Speaker 4: Joe?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think he has so I think too like a
Speaker 3: little bit of both, a little bit of both. I
Speaker 3: think there is there's no way you can really train
Speaker 3: for football. You gotta kind of like get that physical,
Speaker 3: that that that hitting, that tackle in what you say
Speaker 3: it's the way to train for it. Just well you okay,
Speaker 3: you you I'm let me let me say my piece.
Speaker 3: I would say yes, yes, because all.
Speaker 2: Right, hold on, let me ask you this question. Let
Speaker 2: me ask you this question. Then Okay, let me ask
Speaker 2: you this first, all right, Joe, what was your first
Speaker 2: training camp like at the pro level versus what your
Speaker 2: last training camp was like at the pro level? And
Speaker 2: then let me go back even further though, what was
Speaker 2: your first training camp like in college compared to first
Speaker 2: year pro last year pro.
Speaker 4: It's not even close.
Speaker 3: The physicality, the time on field, the heat, just the
Speaker 3: time on field is what it is with pads with
Speaker 3: no walkthroughs.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You're out there full padded practices.
Speaker 3: Both times, and that's what it is. So I think
Speaker 3: that the conditioning, the wearing of your pads, that just
Speaker 3: you out there. You're sweating your drenchs and it's now
Speaker 3: the games were so easy because that training camp was
Speaker 3: so hard that it was like the game you're celebrating.
Speaker 3: You couldn't wait to play in the game. The games
Speaker 3: was literally the funniest thing that you could do because
Speaker 3: you and your homeboys, you're like, all we got to
Speaker 3: do is get a three and out.
Speaker 2: Like, let me pause you for a second. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you continue. After this, you said it was half this,
Speaker 2: half that. Your explanation now is telling me everything that
Speaker 2: it is. But go ahead and then tell me where
Speaker 2: you're at if you agree or disagree.
Speaker 3: I would say I know, because when I'm saying that,
Speaker 3: I think being on field though, is our bodies. I
Speaker 3: mean like the training Like I said you when you
Speaker 3: when I say you can't train for football, I meant
Speaker 3: like the on field stuff that when we're doing these
Speaker 3: seven on sevens, when we're doing these one on ones,
Speaker 3: when we're going like these one on ones live drills,
Speaker 3: when training camp comes, that's when we're really getting our
Speaker 3: craft right.
Speaker 4: Like that's when you can really try stuff.
Speaker 3: When you can really do you're going versus the ones,
Speaker 3: you're going versus the best of the best. You can
Speaker 3: line up, you can really move, and you can really
Speaker 3: come out of your breaks, you can get beat and
Speaker 3: it's okay, we're gonna watch the tape and we're gonna
Speaker 3: figure out how can we get my technique exactly right?
Speaker 3: So you can go in, you practice it and it's happening.
Speaker 3: You practice, go wash the tape, and then you can
Speaker 3: go practice it again. Of like, now you can get
Speaker 3: to see how I move, now.
Speaker 4: What I do better. So I would say that part
Speaker 4: is the thing that.
Speaker 1: You we're talking about the injury part of it.
Speaker 2: He's just saying that easier training camps led to more
Speaker 2: early season injuries.
Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree?
Speaker 2: That's always your training from your statement, you have to
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 4: I have the one hundred percent agreed to what you said.
Speaker 3: I know I don't have one hundred percent agree because
Speaker 3: I mean he's saying that he said easier training camps
Speaker 3: led to more.
Speaker 2: Injuries, led to more early season injuries. Okay, yes, I
Speaker 2: would agree, Yes, Joe.
Speaker 1: No question about it. He is one right, Joe, because when.
Speaker 2: I came in, Joe, we did real life Today's Brother
Speaker 2: full pass, and even when we did shells, the shells
Speaker 2: was actual helmet and shoulder pass.
Speaker 4: And you just have to yes, yes, you're banging your bang,
Speaker 4: not them.
Speaker 2: Little soft ass cushions that they wear now. And dude,
Speaker 2: building up your endurance, building up your conditioning for football.
Speaker 4: Blood.
Speaker 2: We were in training camp for like thirty two thirty
Speaker 2: three days in the troll.
Speaker 1: In the troll, bro. And here's the.
Speaker 2: Issue, dude, Like training camp used to be where you
Speaker 2: toughened your body up for the season, and now the
Speaker 2: rules make it so they can't do it along with you.
Speaker 1: Know, what is it? Only three preseason games.
Speaker 2: Add that with a good majority of the starters, dude,
Speaker 2: don't even play more than what thirty forty snaps the
Speaker 2: whole preseason. Dude, it's a recipe for disaster. And when
Speaker 2: you get into week like he said early in the season,
Speaker 2: you get in the week one, two, three, and now
Speaker 2: you're asking your starters.
Speaker 5: Hey, go out there, go one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 5: give me sixty seventy snaps, and your body hasn't been
Speaker 5: put nowhere close to that, and you wonder why, all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you got fatigue, dehydration, which needs your
Speaker 5: muscles ain't working this much fatigue you don't have, especially
Speaker 5: if you got a imbalance in your muscles that is
Speaker 5: greater than ten percent, and the outcome is soft tissue
Speaker 5: injuries and non contact injuries.
Speaker 4: He's one hundred percent true. Like he's that's one hundred
Speaker 4: percent agree when I said, you.
Speaker 3: Can't like practice, you can't play like practice football.
Speaker 4: You have to actually.
Speaker 3: Be in on the field with these dudes doing the
Speaker 3: level eleven, doing actual live drills to be able to
Speaker 3: replicate all of that the stuff that you're doing without play,
Speaker 3: without pass there's no replication of the football of you
Speaker 3: going up against a left tackle where has his stuff on.
Speaker 3: It's really putting that putting his hands on you. And
Speaker 3: now you really got to get out of the stud
Speaker 3: of repetitions of that. So I used to love the
Speaker 3: training camp part because you're getting your craft so right,
Speaker 3: because all other stuff is all the little drill work
Speaker 3: that you're doing doing the off season. It's cute, but
Speaker 3: ain't nothing like you seeing another man out there where
Speaker 3: the shoulder pads on, running real routes on you with
Speaker 3: the time, and of the d line getting after the quarterback,
Speaker 3: and you know it, the balls got to come out
Speaker 3: with say with them pants on, with them football running
Speaker 3: around you, or your feet are starting to squash around
Speaker 3: because there's just sweat running all the way just down.
Speaker 3: Need need more socks, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 3: like after that, once you go through that type of exhaustion,
Speaker 3: that game, when you actually come off you get a
Speaker 3: three and out or you get a ten plague drive.
Speaker 3: That ten play drive is nothing I've been out here
Speaker 3: about to die during training camp and then run it back,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Run stay out there. It's
Speaker 3: two and a half hours straight like looking crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, Like they don't go through those rigors.
Speaker 2: They don't go through that, you know, that build up
Speaker 2: to getting into that position.
Speaker 1: Another thing a.
Speaker 2: Lot of guys off season training ain't what it should be. Man,
Speaker 2: My off season training was so hard, dude. That was
Speaker 2: the thing I thought about as soon as I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: am I going to retire? Not let me go out
Speaker 2: here and see how I feel after a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks of training. Do I really want to go out
Speaker 2: here and grind and put all this time in? Because
Speaker 2: when the season came, that was the easy on me.
Speaker 2: It was to build up to getting ready to go
Speaker 2: into season, and it was like, yo, I don't, I
Speaker 2: don't know. That was the fun part playing in the game.
Speaker 3: That like, okay, the fuck the game was the easiest
Speaker 3: part for sure. Yes, what because that's the way the
Speaker 3: camps have to put you, Like you got to be
Speaker 3: comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: You're tired, tired in training camp, you should be.
Speaker 3: You should like at the exhaustion like we out here working, working,
Speaker 3: and the receiver they're just as tired as you. So
Speaker 3: like that's the good part, Like everybody's out there, we're
Speaker 3: going the same. So you just you gotta fight through it.
Speaker 3: You build up that that that that energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not getting the opportunity to do that
Speaker 2: no more, especially with how the rules changed all their
Speaker 2: you know, you know, player safety is great and all that,
Speaker 2: and you know what that.
Speaker 1: Was something else that he had said too. He had
Speaker 1: said that what was it?
Speaker 4: He said, player safety is great?
Speaker 2: As a former quarterback, he said, I do like the
Speaker 2: way they protect the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But then he continues.
Speaker 2: To say that with that said, the objective and the
Speaker 2: objective of the defense is to hit the quarterback and
Speaker 2: affect the quarterback. And sometimes I think we're asking a
Speaker 2: lot of defensive players to try and navigate a three
Speaker 2: hundred pound offensive lineman and then not graze the helmet
Speaker 2: of the quarterback. So Troy, thank you for saying that,
Speaker 2: because these little taps of the helmet, like they need
Speaker 2: to be taken away unless he gets.
Speaker 3: Bombed on and his ship turned sideway hold because his head, because.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be that agregious, But.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't even knock my helmet sideways.
Speaker 1: Coming h man.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out too, Like you said, you're
Speaker 3: asking that man is going against another man that is
Speaker 3: pushing on him.
Speaker 4: Pulling on him so hard that he's just trying to
Speaker 4: get to the quarterback. Just just get there.
Speaker 3: And now once you get here, you gotta you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, manipulate the way that you hit him.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm mow down.
Speaker 1: Don't go too hard. I know you just fought for
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: Being there, but try and eat hell no, and then
Speaker 3: because then look at the end of the day, because
Speaker 3: I know when I'm saying that the part when you
Speaker 3: hit him and you lift and then you drive into
Speaker 3: the ground all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I agree, you don't have to.
Speaker 3: Drive him, but like falling on the body weight, like
Speaker 3: trying to just not making it obvious. Okay, we're here
Speaker 3: for it, but that joint, No, you can't. I'm fighting
Speaker 3: for my life to get to him.
Speaker 4: Hitting him on his leg. You're just trying to crawl
Speaker 4: and get there. And they can give you a flag
Speaker 4: for trying to reach for his leg.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, Like, what do you want him
Speaker 3: to do. He's trying to get to the quarterback. That's
Speaker 3: his job, that's his only job. Listen, I got it.
Speaker 3: We can call the flag a flag if it's a
Speaker 3: hit to his helmet. Only if the quarterback is a
Speaker 3: cussoing to come out the game only to get put
Speaker 3: to sleep. They're gonna beat some active job. You can
Speaker 3: cuss and you say he can cust got to.
Speaker 1: Come out the game. We get the fifteen. I bet
Speaker 1: you they don't come up out of that thing. I
Speaker 1: bet you don't come up out of that night, Joe.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: They So some people think now that the salary cap
Speaker 2: should take state income tax into account, because I guess
Speaker 2: right now Washington is looking at a millionaire attax. Governor
Speaker 2: Bob Ferguson plans to sign a thing into plans to
Speaker 2: sign a bill in that would would give a nine
Speaker 2: point nine percent income tax on I think people who
Speaker 2: are making I guess what, it's a million in the
Speaker 2: world whatever. But it wouldn't go into effect to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight. And when you look at it right now,
Speaker 2: you have Nevada, Texas, Florida, and Tennessee. Since twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: they had what they called the Hall tax that ended
Speaker 2: in twenty one, so they currently have no income tax
Speaker 2: on theirs, while California, of course imposes thirteen point three
Speaker 2: percent on the highest earners and all.
Speaker 1: This started than ninety one when.
Speaker 2: California started the jock tax, and of course other states
Speaker 2: started to follow suit. So by nineteen ninety five other
Speaker 2: states had did the same thing, some form of a
Speaker 2: jock tax. So after that, so the interesting thing is
Speaker 2: like if they go and you say, okay, we're going
Speaker 2: to give them an extra whatever it is on.
Speaker 4: The thirteen to three for uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters what it would make sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, because it's going to be unfair some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form or another. Because when it comes down
Speaker 2: to it, we have to file taxes in every state
Speaker 2: that we plan. We get taxing the state that we plan,
Speaker 2: we get taxing the state that we we live in,
Speaker 2: and we get taxed with the visiting state that that
Speaker 2: we you know, we end up going and planning. So
Speaker 2: the ideal of raising the percentage of the cap by
Speaker 2: the tax by the income tax it, you know, it
Speaker 2: sounds like something that would make it even, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if that would even work because of how
Speaker 2: it taxes where you play, where you don't play, all
Speaker 2: the other stuff. It gets so confusing that I don't
Speaker 2: think it would. It would help out, but who it
Speaker 2: would help. Then it would take what the cap is
Speaker 2: today of three ward and one point two million, it
Speaker 2: would bump them all the way to three hundred and
Speaker 2: forty one point two million dollars cap.
Speaker 4: But that's how they teams.
Speaker 2: So what do you think of the possibility of them
Speaker 2: raising the cap?
Speaker 1: Good? Bad and different? How where do you see it?
Speaker 3: I don't know if they would raise the cap. I
Speaker 3: don't know when I looked at it originally. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, people just don't like talking about all of
Speaker 3: the taxi stuff. But if you're looking at it in
Speaker 3: a way where the callie teams, because I know the players,
Speaker 3: when you said like Debo, you're like, mannah, that's it, Cali,
Speaker 3: that's about the taxes. I'm looking at it too, like
Speaker 3: a lot of the players, we probably should do better.
Speaker 3: I was one of the dudes, I'm gonna play where
Speaker 3: I want to play. I'm gonna live where I want
Speaker 3: to live. If it's comfortable out that joint, the weather's good,
Speaker 3: like I would go there. So I think that's one
Speaker 3: thing with the teams like California, if they got an
Speaker 3: extra forty million dollar I me an extra like three
Speaker 3: strie one extra forty million to their cap what like
Speaker 3: people going there regardless, that would be cheat code.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying in my opinion. So I'm
Speaker 4: like this, No, don't.
Speaker 3: Add it to the Callei teams because tee, everybody be
Speaker 3: looking like, what do you mean Like people are already
Speaker 3: going there not worrying about the thirteen three just because
Speaker 3: they're in California the way of life.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna tell me like, I'm gonna take I'm
Speaker 4: gonna take the weather. I'm gonna just go I'm taking
Speaker 4: the thirteen three. That's called the weather tax. That's what
Speaker 4: I called them. When I was living there. They was
Speaker 4: asking me. They're like, Yoe, why you limit Cali? They
Speaker 4: was like, what taxes suck? It's a weather tax. Every
Speaker 4: day I wake up, it's beautiful out here. I can
Speaker 4: do whatever I want. I golf three hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: five days.
Speaker 1: A year unless you get an earth quake.
Speaker 3: Look, earthquakes up, earthquakes up. But everybody got everybody got
Speaker 3: some such to suck at their job. Miami, no taxes,
Speaker 3: you might get a hurricane. Okay, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like everywhere so you can go. But look, you do
Speaker 3: what you gotta do, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So with the Cali part, I'm like, if they added
Speaker 3: that bread, that's kind of cheat code, and then they
Speaker 3: was looking like the teams might not want to spend
Speaker 3: as much because then they have to try to hide
Speaker 3: their taxes.
Speaker 4: I'm like all that. I don't care about what.
Speaker 3: They do with whatever, But if California was to get
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty those teams, that's not fair if
Speaker 3: I'm another owner, because I'm like, they already going to Cali.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get them another forty to just add.
Speaker 2: To their roster? No, sir, please not. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: looking at it. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Brother,
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't see it working out because
Speaker 2: of all the different things where you're.
Speaker 4: Paying taxes here or they're all the other stuff. You can't.
Speaker 2: You just got to keep it where it is and
Speaker 2: if you want to play there. He's going to say,
Speaker 2: all right, that's part of man benefit or negativity of.
Speaker 4: That's why I live.
Speaker 3: Like people that live in those days, like they you
Speaker 3: got taxes that's coming in.
Speaker 4: That's like, that's.
Speaker 3: That's the klie tax and dudes in the league like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm mean Calie.
Speaker 2: Right, and some of the most of them ain't looking
Speaker 2: at that. You gotta really, I ain't started looking at taxes, bro.
Speaker 2: They gave me a check that wasn' That's when I
Speaker 2: smell what they're taking out here? Hold on, like who
Speaker 2: is taking out each piece? Which part can I prevent?
Speaker 2: Like which party which part?
Speaker 4: Which part? Is my fault that they're taking it out?
Speaker 1: No, no damn thing you can do, bro.
Speaker 2: Man, Look here, man, the NFL has re elected Javon
Speaker 2: Maven read Javon Reeves and Man as the president. And
Speaker 2: I'm dude, I really, like I said, I talked to
Speaker 2: Cam and I went down to the facility before I
Speaker 2: got my teacher when I was getting my you know, teacher,
Speaker 2: and Cam seems to think he's, you know, he's good
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't agree.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like the dude got the knowledge understanding.
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is, dude, if he hadn't got picked
Speaker 2: up at the end of the year by Cleel, that
Speaker 2: wasn't no by the Bears with three games, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: even have been eligible to run for the position. So
Speaker 2: right now they have three guys that are running for
Speaker 2: or that the committee, the members, the the player reps,
Speaker 2: the Executive Committee. No, it's the executive committee. Sorry, the
Speaker 2: executi committee pick that will now be running for executive director,
Speaker 2: and that is one being David White, who is the
Speaker 2: current acting executive director.
Speaker 4: Did you know that David White is also an agent?
Speaker 2: And since he's an agent, he's not allowed to serve
Speaker 2: on the NFLPA.
Speaker 4: Exactly pecative committee, but.
Speaker 2: Because it's considered a confident interest, but he can run
Speaker 2: for an executive director.
Speaker 4: Okay, how does that make sense?
Speaker 2: He can't be on a lower committee, but he can
Speaker 2: be the man that's running the going in there negotiating.
Speaker 1: Number two is uh CJ.
Speaker 4: What is it? Trader?
Speaker 1: Trader?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's This is the guy who actually resigned when
Speaker 2: the former NFLPA executive director resigned. Okay, so he resigned.
Speaker 2: Don't know exactly why he resigned. There was some rumoring
Speaker 2: that maybe it was something going on that he had
Speaker 2: involvement with with the other exact director that resigned. And
Speaker 2: then the other dude, how you say his last name,
Speaker 2: Tim he Per whatever it is. This dude is the
Speaker 2: dude from the Rutgers basketball abuse scandal brou It was
Speaker 2: a while ago. It was two thousand and thirteen where
Speaker 2: he suspended the guy.
Speaker 1: The coach was Mike Rice.
Speaker 2: He suspended in three games, finding fifty thousand and required
Speaker 2: him to attend anger management counseling.
Speaker 1: That was until the video got out.
Speaker 2: Then he went back fired him and he resigned itself
Speaker 2: along with that.
Speaker 1: He is, or was, or is the current.
Speaker 2: Guy for the AAC okay, who is now considered a
Speaker 2: what you what they call it? You got your you
Speaker 2: got your five, you got your your power five. They
Speaker 2: considered him a call six bro okay, Okay, but he
Speaker 2: has a strong understanding of I guess television and digital
Speaker 2: media rights and all that, okay. And his understanding is
Speaker 2: so strong that the a AC schools they averaged seven
Speaker 2: to ten million dollars per school. All right, Wow. The
Speaker 2: next one, which is a Power five school is ACC Okay,
Speaker 2: which is the next closest. They averaged thirty to thirty
Speaker 2: five million dollars per school, with the biggest and best
Speaker 2: conference being the Big Ten, who averaged up to one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars per school. Yeah, so he has a
Speaker 2: real great understanding because he did such a great job
Speaker 2: where he's at now those are the three people running.
Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't get then I didn't get put on
Speaker 2: the board. So uh and understand because it's the good
Speaker 2: old boys Club. What do you what are you thinking
Speaker 2: that Joe them re electing and then the three that
Speaker 2: they selected for the player reps to vote on because
Speaker 2: the players don't actually get to vote.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing debo. You've been saying that since
Speaker 3: the d Smith reset it to allow it that they
Speaker 3: can basically keep themselves in office and they don't have
Speaker 3: to tell everybody else on the outside what's really going on.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a certain amount of people that are
Speaker 3: making the moves, and inside they're gonna kind of pick
Speaker 3: and you can basically pick and choose who is shown
Speaker 3: and who's delegated and who's up. So until this gets switched,
Speaker 3: it's going to be the same thing in a little
Speaker 3: boys club. Because unless you open it up to the
Speaker 3: players negotiative players association, to where all of the players
Speaker 3: can see who's going on, we can be able to validate,
Speaker 3: like it's not just eighteen people being able to show
Speaker 3: a couple of people. What's going on, the process needs
Speaker 3: to just be the players because it's the NFL PA
Speaker 3: Players Association.
Speaker 4: So until it gets.
Speaker 3: All the way over, I know, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: since he changed the joint, well who.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, give up telling you because right
Speaker 2: now they ain't got to go nowhere to do nothing.
Speaker 2: But to those eleven executive Committee, I'm telling you this,
Speaker 2: they ain't.
Speaker 1: Got to go on. He ain't got to go nowhere
Speaker 1: to do nothing.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: I wasn't as hip to the whole NF the negotiation joints.
Speaker 3: This has been for me listening to you, you telling
Speaker 3: me what's going on. I'm listening, and now I'm like this,
Speaker 3: okay that since my man switched it up, So until
Speaker 3: we can get somebody to switch it back to the
Speaker 3: ruling of the NFL Players Association needs to be run
Speaker 3: by the NFL players and not in the little association
Speaker 3: that runs the NFLPA. And then until that happens, the
Speaker 3: joint's not gonna be ran by the players. That's like
Speaker 3: the people aren't gonna be able to run theirselves because
Speaker 3: you won't be able to pick who's running your group,
Speaker 3: your organization, you know what I'm saying. So until that
Speaker 3: gets back to the vote of everybody's in, everybody gets
Speaker 3: a voice, you know what I'm saying, of all of
Speaker 3: the players, to where now you're informed, now you put
Speaker 3: your votes in, then it's going to be they get
Speaker 3: to decide how it goes.
Speaker 4: Who's who's picked, who's.
Speaker 3: Vetted, you know what I'm saying, and who you're allowed
Speaker 3: to Uh, who's gonna be the NFLPA. So like it's
Speaker 3: an inside or joint and you're saying that the only
Speaker 3: way they can get changed is somebody got to go
Speaker 3: in there and do it.
Speaker 4: But why would they change the way that.
Speaker 3: It is if they are they got it the way
Speaker 3: that they want it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, That's that's why I wasn't on there. They
Speaker 2: didn't like that I was talking bad about the NHLPA.
Speaker 4: I know this.
Speaker 2: I heard this for sure. It's one hundred percent truth.
Speaker 2: This ain't no conspiracy theory. They didn't like it. Well,
Speaker 2: he's talking bad about us, man, we can't put him
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: He's talking bad about us. Yeah, because I wanted to
Speaker 4: tear it down to what he's saying.
Speaker 1: It back to what it was.
Speaker 2: That means your jobs, your positions are gone. I would
Speaker 2: understand that makes sense why you don't want anybody to
Speaker 2: come do that, and then you're the person that gotta.
Speaker 3: Vote for you come in there to switching up and
Speaker 3: be willing to know end of the day, my job
Speaker 3: is going to be up for grabs every year too,
Speaker 3: because it's up to the players. We need the players
Speaker 3: to be wanting the players people that's going to run it,
Speaker 3: and it's going to do the right job. And hopefully
Speaker 3: when I'm coming in here show them what I'm advocating
Speaker 3: for these guys, so then the players hopefully will revote me,
Speaker 3: because that's what I'm trying to do. It's literally for them,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And they have the choice
Speaker 3: to pick them. They think somebody else is a better
Speaker 3: leader for all of these groups that's going to advocate
Speaker 3: for them, then let that man be the one to
Speaker 3: run it, and I hope and pray that he does
Speaker 3: a great job. He's like, I don't want it just
Speaker 3: to be me, because you want it to be you.
Speaker 3: I want it to be you because you want to
Speaker 3: do it the right way, and you need to be
Speaker 3: for the players for what it is initially built for.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So it's like, no, I'm
Speaker 3: not just saying debo debo, Kim.
Speaker 2: Because he's talking bad about us, that he's talking bad
Speaker 2: about about you.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You not trying to make it
Speaker 4: about you.
Speaker 3: Like if I was in there, you would be sitting
Speaker 3: on that same stool, because you're talking about giving the
Speaker 3: players the right get letting the players know what's going on.
Speaker 3: Like no, we're going to keep certain no, no, not
Speaker 3: just the these guys informed, keep everybody informed so everybody
Speaker 3: can make the decision for this best for the players,
Speaker 3: so we can all make this decision, not just no, no, no, Okay,
Speaker 3: well I'm doing the best. But if they don't think
Speaker 3: that I'm doing, no, that's your job to reach out
Speaker 3: to these players and make sure that they know what's
Speaker 3: going on, because what else are you doing in the
Speaker 3: NFLPA for them?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like thousand percent.
Speaker 2: Joey, you know what time it is. It's time for
Speaker 2: fair presented by Pride.
Speaker 1: That's baby. You know how it worked. Look, Joe done
Speaker 1: cooked up a lineup all right.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna either play a fame with Joe, got
Speaker 2: going knowing Joe, give me what you Okay, I'm.
Speaker 3: So I thought I was cooking last time because Cooper
Speaker 3: Flag he kind of let me down. But I had
Speaker 3: to go back and look at his laws of averages.
Speaker 3: He's averaging six rebounds and four assist so he's gonna
Speaker 3: be around nine. So I mean, no, six and six
Speaker 3: and four six and four, so ten, ten, he's gonna
Speaker 3: get ten.
Speaker 4: I'm like him to get his averages.
Speaker 3: I put over eleven wildnce, so I'm gonna put under
Speaker 3: eleven and a half this time. Okay, so you got
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less this time. We got Luka Doncis
Speaker 3: thirty one. I'm loving it. He just hit the game winner.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's averaging probably thirty. He
Speaker 3: had fifty one like a couple of days ago versus Houston.
Speaker 3: Gonna be going against Katie and them. I just I
Speaker 3: just like him to get thirty one. Thirty one over
Speaker 3: thirty one. I'm going over. I'm going over.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going more.
Speaker 4: And then we got Victor win Ben Yama.
Speaker 3: His last four games, he's had like twenty eight thirty
Speaker 3: one thirty thirty two something like that. So I'm liking
Speaker 3: him to stay on the high Street, liking him to
Speaker 3: keep his points up.
Speaker 4: He's just unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I love watching him play, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: get at least I'm going more than twenty six and
Speaker 3: a half, Joe.
Speaker 2: I want to right, Oh, man, I feel like Cooper go.
Speaker 2: I feel like he go go out there and he
Speaker 2: gonna go. I really feel like he go go more.
Speaker 2: I think he go be the destrawa that break the
Speaker 2: camel's back. But I like everything else, So that's what
Speaker 2: I just I feel like, I feel like, I feel
Speaker 2: like Cooper go go out there.
Speaker 4: And I don't.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you. I hate doing less.
Speaker 3: I always like more. But after he let me down
Speaker 3: and then I had to go look, I had to
Speaker 3: do my research. I'm like, Okay, that was kind of
Speaker 3: not not as educated as I needed to be. So
Speaker 3: now I felt like I want to educate it myself.
Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying, Joe, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and I'm I'm a player languich because you know,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: What, man, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: You know, the education, you know low averages and all
Speaker 2: that good stuff. Man, listen here download af today. Use
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Speaker 2: Did you play your first five dollar lineup? That code
Speaker 2: is d boat is after your first five Joe? What
Speaker 2: we got over here?
Speaker 4: Well, we got the chats Man, we.
Speaker 1: Got Covenant like back.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, yes, yes, she said, with all these
Speaker 2: great players we have added. My concern now is this
Speaker 2: coaching staff. We need everything needs to fit perfect. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping we keep Fields. Fields ain't there, but after how
Speaker 2: he performed with the Jets by for losing what. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's talking about? You drinking this morning, Covenant Life,
Speaker 2: you're drinking this morning. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Right here, we ain't got you. Fields ain't been here
Speaker 2: and he been gone. I ain't got no concerns over
Speaker 2: this coaching staff. I like what the coaching staff is.
Speaker 2: I know who they is. I don't seen them. I
Speaker 2: don't play with I played with a couple of I'm like,
Speaker 2: we're cooking that. It's no concern there. Yeah, we got
Speaker 2: coming the life back again. Ten dollars, she said. The
Speaker 2: James noise just flare up like, did James know it's
Speaker 2: just flare like James Evans.
Speaker 1: Hey, I get that all the time. You do it
Speaker 1: like dude.
Speaker 2: Hey, they think they think they think they think me
Speaker 2: and James Evans was related.
Speaker 1: Now look at you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: This ain't being about doom, the doom, doom, doom, good times.
Speaker 1: Joe, Please leave that man alone.
Speaker 2: About your Browns, I believe that they will be better,
Speaker 2: but not a true contender, well not for the stealers anyway.
Speaker 4: Facts.
Speaker 6: Look, they were saying, everybody contender, no Joe, playoffs. No,
Speaker 6: everybody's kept at the beginning, they get into week six
Speaker 6: and then the Browns ain't no longer.
Speaker 7: Whatever you're gonna we will see. We're gonna see. We're
Speaker 7: gonna keep track. This year is perfect. Now you want
Speaker 7: to keep track of some No, we keep it. We
Speaker 7: always keep a track. We're gonna keep but look, we
Speaker 7: want to see. I want to see how the Steelers.
Speaker 7: We're gonna keep track of the Steelers. We want to
Speaker 7: keep track of the Browns. We kept track of the Browns.
Speaker 7: We kept track of them getting their face. That's what
Speaker 7: we kept track of.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 8: Just throw this pistol, right, yeah, you're gonna I'm looking
Speaker 8: I'm looking right at you. I'm like, man, it's just
Speaker 8: all we got covered. Life back agad Government Life twenty
Speaker 8: dollars said if you were saying, my homes have it
Speaker 8: longer than expected recovery and feels takes the chief to
Speaker 8: the super Bowl. Another viewer that said they want Rogers
Speaker 8: to start one or two games, get hurt and let and.
Speaker 1: Let we'll take over man. Man?
Speaker 4: Who would that's that's look, that's who said he look
Speaker 4: all right? Who said that? In the check? Which one
Speaker 4: of you?
Speaker 1: Which one of you?
Speaker 4: Which one of you?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Dirt dirt ball said that you want the man to
Speaker 4: go two games?
Speaker 3: And rather rather say that like yeah, that's praying on
Speaker 3: his downfall. That's for example, you might as well like
Speaker 3: just he doesn't play, he's just playing, just not playing
Speaker 3: bad and gets benched.
Speaker 4: That's like.
Speaker 3: And then Will comes in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We gotta go to Will. Hey Rogers, hold.
Speaker 1: Up, hold up? What we got coming to I'm looking
Speaker 1: at another one right now? Hold hold coming?
Speaker 2: Like said hey, some she said some things in the
Speaker 2: chat that we don't see. One viewer said Watson is
Speaker 2: the better quarterback.
Speaker 1: And Shador will be benched. That was fired out from
Speaker 1: coming Like, where do you think of that joke?
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you saying Deshaun Watson the last time that
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson was.
Speaker 4: On the field, I'm saying what they're saying that.
Speaker 2: She said that Deshaun Watson is going to be a
Speaker 2: is a better quarterback and Shador will get benched.
Speaker 1: That's what some name John think is going through.
Speaker 4: She said.
Speaker 6: Somebody in the chat said, I heard what chat saying.
Speaker 3: It's going to it's going to be a fight and
Speaker 3: if Deshaun Watson comes out in plays, because Deshaun Watson
Speaker 3: was like League MVP caliber player. So that's not no
Speaker 3: disrespect to Shador if he's not better than Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: if he can return to what he was. But right
Speaker 3: now we're gonna see if Deshaun Watson comes back healthy,
Speaker 3: is able to do what he did. He's this is
Speaker 3: not this is twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: Now we're no longer in.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, only twenty twenty two. Like years on, body,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Let's see he's.
Speaker 2: Saying the chat was saying he go out playing in
Speaker 2: camp and have him sitting on the bench with your boy,
Speaker 2: Dylan Gravery, What are you thinking that?
Speaker 3: I didn't think that. Okay, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 3: it could happen. I'm like, and we got Look Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: there was a reason why he got two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 4: So if he's going to be the start of the quarterback,
Speaker 4: hopefully he goes.
Speaker 3: Out, balls out, and if he does it, then I'll
Speaker 3: be happy because the Browns will be succeeding. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I don't I don't want him not
Speaker 3: to do good. I don't want I want them to
Speaker 3: be successful. But I'm just saying, if you were asking me,
Speaker 3: I thought it was all right.
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand Joe, but look here, coming to
Speaker 2: life came back with a clarification.
Speaker 1: She said, I.
Speaker 2: Wanted them to keep fields, but after seeing how he
Speaker 2: played with the jets by Felicia, Oh, she said.
Speaker 4: All drunk laugh cut it.
Speaker 1: She's drunk on laughter.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, yes, he's drunk on laughter. Hey, but y'all
Speaker 4: I feel you. I feel cut of life.
Speaker 2: We ain't we ain't doing nothing messing with your baby.
Speaker 2: Look here, Joe, Matt. We want to thank you guys
Speaker 2: for joining us on this episode.
Speaker 1: In Debo and Joe, please.
Speaker 2: Make sure you like subscribe and download the show.
Speaker 4: Joe Yo, my brother. Make sure you like subscribe, download.
Speaker 3: We will see y'all tomorrow, same time, same place.
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