WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Something In The Orange

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Something in the Orange edition

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals open the season in Orange but come

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<v Speaker 1>up short on the scoreboard, losing to the Patriots sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to ten. Coming up radio replays, locker room comments and

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<v Speaker 1>postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's Fun

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<v Speaker 1>Facts Conversation, I'll discuss some humorous moments in franchise history

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<v Speaker 1>with team president Mike Brown. You will enjoy our trip

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<v Speaker 1>down memory lane. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bengals. Now here's a quick reminder that you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since my all

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<v Speaker 1>time favorite line on a TV show, HBO ran a

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<v Speaker 1>Sopranos marathon over the last week or so, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I was flipping channels on the remote, I wound up

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<v Speaker 1>watching bits and pieces of several episodes, including one that

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<v Speaker 1>features perhaps my all time favorite line of dialogue. Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>is in the hospital having nightmares about going to Hell

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<v Speaker 1>for his mob related sins. That freaks out Polly Walnuts,

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<v Speaker 1>who worries that he's headed there in the afterlife too,

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<v Speaker 1>so he quizzes Christopher about his nightmare and asks if

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<v Speaker 1>Hell was hot in his dream. After Christopher answers, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Polly triumphantly says, the heat would have been

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing you noticed. Hell is hot. That's never

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<v Speaker 1>been disputed. I have probably said hell is hot, never

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<v Speaker 1>been disputed a million times since first seeing that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It cracks me up every time. Now let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>football and the radio replays from week one. The weather

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<v Speaker 1>was perfect, and kudos to Bengals fans for turning the

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<v Speaker 1>jungle into an ocean of orange. It looked great in

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<v Speaker 1>person and on TV, and I, for one hope the

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<v Speaker 1>open and orange tradition is here to stay. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>offense got off to a slow start, but rookie punter

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Rico didn't. His first NFL punt went fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>yards and his second set a franchise record wereco waiting

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<v Speaker 1>at the five. Snap is shoulder high, the right footed

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<v Speaker 1>punt is goosh, holy cow, it's going to fly to

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<v Speaker 1>the nine, bounce.

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<v Speaker 2>Us to the five, chip us toward the pylon and

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<v Speaker 2>just barely goes into the end zone that would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been at the one foot line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an eighty yard punt had traveled seventy yards in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. It's still sixty net yards despite bouncing into

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone.

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<v Speaker 4>Howard's a shot there.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the longest punt in team history, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the longest ever for Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I had an eighty three at YU three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but that was a little while ago too, and they

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<v Speaker 5>come around every so often. It's fun, but yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't be more grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>The previous Bengals record was seventy five yards, shared by

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Huber and Kyle Larson. Rico averaged sixty four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half yards on four punts in the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is also a new single game team record. The

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots took a seven to nothing lead on a three

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown run by Romandre Stevenson on the first play

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<v Speaker 1>of the second quarter. But a few minutes later, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals offense started to cook Burrow in the shotgun. Moss

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<v Speaker 1>lines up to his right, Tanner Hudson motions out to

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<v Speaker 1>the left. Burrow drops back to throw fires caught by

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Jamar at the fifteen. The fourteen hits a first

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<v Speaker 1>down for Cincinnati. He took Christian Gonzales for a ride

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals are in the red zone for a

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<v Speaker 1>first down. Two plays later, they went from the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone to the end zone. Drew Sample lines up in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield to the left of Burrow. Shotgun snap Joe

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<v Speaker 1>looking right, He'll float it for the end zone.

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<v Speaker 6>It if baby caught for the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Kasiki against his former team with his first touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>in a Bengals uniform. He does his version of the gritty,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't exactly perfectly executed, but the Bengals have scored

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<v Speaker 2>their first touchdown of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Or so we thought. As the Bengals lined up for

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<v Speaker 1>the game tying extra point, the officials studied the replay

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<v Speaker 1>and determined that Kasiki did not complete the catch as

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the ground no touchdown, but the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>still had the ball in the red zone. They're down

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<v Speaker 1>in eleven four the fifteen Burrow quick pass over.

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<v Speaker 2>The minute cut by Tanner Hudson loses the football picked

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<v Speaker 2>up in.

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<v Speaker 1>The end zone by the Patriots. They are running it

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<v Speaker 1>back to the ten to the fifteen and the tackle

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<v Speaker 1>is made at the seventeen yard line. Tanner Hudson, on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of going into the end zone for a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>had the ball knocked away. Marcus Jones scooped up the

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<v Speaker 1>ricochet right at the goal line and ran it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the seventeen. Before Jamar Chase could make the stop.

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<v Speaker 7>He exposed the football and Douger made him pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of being a tie game, the Patriots were still

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<v Speaker 1>up by seven, and a field goal on the final

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<v Speaker 1>play of the half made it ten to nothing New England.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals defense promptly got a three and out to

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<v Speaker 1>begin the second half, but Cincinnati made another costly mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>The long snapper Cardona fires it back. Baringer launches a

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<v Speaker 1>very very high punt. Charlie Jones, back pedaling and catching

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<v Speaker 1>at the ten, has a little bit of running room

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<v Speaker 1>He's to the fifteen to twenty the ball and the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots recover at the twenty four yard line.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That led to a field goal in a thirteen to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing lead. It was time for the offense to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals quickly drove into New England territory. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals line up to go for it on fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>two at the New England thirty six. Three receivers out

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<v Speaker 1>to the right burrow in the gun. He catches his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder high snap, throws a screen out to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo see Bosh tackle it to thirty five? What not

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<v Speaker 1>short of the first down, oh Man. After five drives,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals still had not scored, but that changed the

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<v Speaker 1>next time. They got the ball, first and goal from

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<v Speaker 1>the five Burrow in the pistol again, turns left, gives

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<v Speaker 1>it to.

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<v Speaker 6>Moss right up the medal touchdown down Baby Bengals sack

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<v Speaker 6>Moss up the gut head into the end zone for

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<v Speaker 6>his first Bengals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>What I liked on.

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<v Speaker 7>That I saw a blocker finishing a defender into the

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<v Speaker 7>end zone on his backside. The Bengals were starting to

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<v Speaker 7>catch you control of the minus scrimmage. A little bit

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<v Speaker 7>mosses up the football field and boy, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 7>watching this well, take him to the ground, finish him,

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<v Speaker 7>put him on his backside.

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<v Speaker 4>Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It was thirteen to seven going to the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>A Patriots field goal made it sixteen to seven, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals scored for the second drive in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Shotgun snapped to Burrow four man rush throws down the

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<v Speaker 1>minute of the field, Chase with a catch in Patriots'

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<v Speaker 1>territory and he gets tackled in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>field at the thirty six huff New England by Jabril

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<v Speaker 1>Peppers twenty eight yards to Jamar Chase. That led to

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<v Speaker 1>an Evan McPherson field goal that made it sixteen to ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and the defense forced to punt with about three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to go. That gave the Bengals a chance for a

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<v Speaker 1>game winning drive. Unfortunately, it was not to be. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals elected to punt on fourth and five from their

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<v Speaker 1>own fifteen with two and a half minutes to go

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<v Speaker 1>in three timeouts remaining, but the Patriots were able to

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<v Speaker 1>run for two first downs to win the game six

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen ten. Holding a team to sixteen points is usually

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<v Speaker 1>enough to win but not when you lose the turnover

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<v Speaker 1>battle to Zip, and not when you allow the opponent

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<v Speaker 1>to rush for one hundred and seventy yards on thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine carries to dominate time of possession. Logan Wilson led

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals with thirteen tackles and three quarterback hits. And

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to them after the game, what aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>the game bothers.

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<v Speaker 3>You them rushing for one hundred and seventy rushing yards.

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<v Speaker 8>We've talked about all off season how we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>clean that shit up, and it's we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously we still I worked too. We gotta tackle better.

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<v Speaker 3>That starts with tackling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to say, it seemed like there

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<v Speaker 1>were several of those running plays where you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>in position to get them down and maybe got two

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<v Speaker 1>more yards, four more yards, six more yards, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's seen those issues that were from last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we still have time to clean up.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, we had sixteen more games, but we got to

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<v Speaker 8>let this one sting quite a bit, just because we

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<v Speaker 8>got to clean that that stuff up up the bath.

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<v Speaker 8>We gotta be better on defense. We gotta get turnovers.

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<v Speaker 8>We had no turnovers today, and when you win the

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<v Speaker 8>turnover battle, I think plus plus two in this league

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<v Speaker 8>is like winning percent, just like seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>So odds are high. When you get turnovers, you forced

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<v Speaker 3>to fumble.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, at the bottom of the pile, they guess they

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<v Speaker 1>willed that Stevenson held on long enough.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I got he did. I thought Joseph came

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<v Speaker 8>up with it. I wasn't really sure who came up

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<v Speaker 8>with it. Everyone was seeing Osai came up with it,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I was hoping that we were. They were

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<v Speaker 8>letting him play through. But unfortunately it didn't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get off to a better start this year. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bewildering it? For whatever reason, Week one

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<v Speaker 1>just has not gone well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna panic, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna look myself in the mirror. See,

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<v Speaker 8>but I gotta do better.

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<v Speaker 3>And then because the defense gotta sue we can do better.

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<v Speaker 8>Especial teams offense is do the same, and we gotta

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<v Speaker 8>put our best foot forward because it's not like we're

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<v Speaker 8>going into an easy environment, going to Ahead and playing

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<v Speaker 8>in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time Offensively, Joe Burrow was twenty one for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, that's seventy two percent, but he had to

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<v Speaker 1>settle for short passes with the Patriots taking away the

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<v Speaker 1>deep ball. Joe threw for one hundred and sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>yards and had a passer rating of eighty six. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Moss was the team's leading rusher with forty four yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase was the leading receiver with six catches for

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two. For more on the offense, here's tight end

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<v Speaker 1>Mike KASICKI. I thought you had your first touchdown in

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengals uniform. I guess after seeing the replay the

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<v Speaker 1>ball skidded on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen a replay of

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<v Speaker 9>it yet, so unfortunately I can't really comment on it

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<v Speaker 9>too soon. But definitely thought I had it. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>Obviously I wouldn't have, you know, celebrated like I did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>if I didn't, But unfortunately, I mean, that was the

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<v Speaker 9>call and it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a frustrating day for the offense. Arded slowly

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<v Speaker 1>from the fourth possession on you moved the ball well,

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<v Speaker 1>but for whatever reason, those first three drives just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it going.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it is, like you said, unfortunate. You know, we

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<v Speaker 9>got a lot of good players, a lot of great coaches,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think the right people in this in this

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<v Speaker 9>locker room. So you know, we'll go back watch the tape, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>see what we can do better improve on, and come

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<v Speaker 9>back next week ready.

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<v Speaker 1>To feel like t was badly missed today.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh. Yeah, me and a guy of his caliber and talent, Uh,

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<v Speaker 9>that's always gonna you know, affect the offense. But you

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<v Speaker 9>know some other guys got to step up, including myself,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, next week's a new week.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a Patriot last year, that game kind of

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a bella check performance to me. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>turn it over, they led the clock, They did the

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<v Speaker 1>things that the Patriots had historically done well when they went.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, you know, we've lost the turnover battle and

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<v Speaker 9>they won the time in possession battle and all that

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<v Speaker 9>kind of stuff. So uh, you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 9>of the day, you know, we got some things that

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<v Speaker 9>we have to clean up, and we know that, and

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<v Speaker 9>you know we'll be ready to come back in tomorrow

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<v Speaker 9>and get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the league got a bounce back in week one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we are unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no doubt, it's a long season. It's only September eighth,

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<v Speaker 9>so plenty of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, appreciate you time.

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<v Speaker 9>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Let's hear what Zach Taylor had to say as

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<v Speaker 1>he spent a couple of minutes with Lap after the game.

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<v Speaker 10>We got to tackle better and we got to get

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<v Speaker 10>the ball of them losing the turn of battle two

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<v Speaker 10>to nothing, you know, and the chart Troy three to

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<v Speaker 10>nothing with a failed first fourth down. But that's not

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<v Speaker 10>unacceptable in week one. That's not gonna win you any games.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year ten Fumbals lost two of them all season

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<v Speaker 4>long Clubber only losing two fumbles none to lose two

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<v Speaker 4>and like just a little bit over half had to

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<v Speaker 4>be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, two loose with the ball. I mean it's very

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<v Speaker 10>simple there. There's not a big mystery to what I happened,

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<v Speaker 10>and so we'll certainly address it and do a better

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<v Speaker 10>job moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>When when something happens like that, funnel like that in

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<v Speaker 4>a low red zone going into score, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>just picks the ear up of the balloom, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, that's you talk about contrimary football. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 10>where another side's got to rise up and get a

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<v Speaker 10>big stop. Unfortunately, they got ten points off of our turnovers,

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<v Speaker 10>three of them. The defense did a great job off

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<v Speaker 10>of a sudden change on a pump fumble held them

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<v Speaker 10>to a field goal. Excellent job. We just we obviously

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<v Speaker 10>can't fumble in the red zone and then we got

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<v Speaker 10>to get stopped once they get the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Controlling the line of scrimmage. Winning in the trenches is

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<v Speaker 4>such a big deal. Did the Patriots move guys out

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<v Speaker 4>of gap control responsibilities? Did they not hit them right?

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<v Speaker 4>Was a combination? I know you haven't had time to

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<v Speaker 4>check it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we'll I have to watch the tay see that.

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<v Speaker 11>So what the.

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<v Speaker 4>Spot running the football as well? And want to get

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<v Speaker 4>that on tracks as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 10>We certainly got a ton of momentum there in the

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<v Speaker 10>second half. You know, it felt like we were moving

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<v Speaker 10>the ball well, finished with the ball in the end

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<v Speaker 10>zone on a great run, great drive. We'd run the

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<v Speaker 10>ball well. Unfortunately, the next possession we got the ball

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<v Speaker 10>eight minutes down two scores, and so that kind of

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<v Speaker 10>takes the ball out of the back's hands in that case,

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<v Speaker 10>and we knew we were probably on to get two

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<v Speaker 10>possessions left in the game down two posion, so we

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<v Speaker 10>had to throw the ball to try to maximize the clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach, what what did you What did you tell the

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<v Speaker 4>guys after the game? What was your What was the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest part of your message?

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<v Speaker 10>That's what I told you to turn of a battle

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<v Speaker 10>and tackling. You know, you can't expect to one week

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<v Speaker 10>one when they get two more possessions than you do.

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<v Speaker 10>You take points off the board, you know, from one

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<v Speaker 10>on the two yard line and and you know, so

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<v Speaker 10>it's just in the way we tackle it. At the

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<v Speaker 10>end of the game, particularly, it wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>And I and finally, I know a big key for

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<v Speaker 4>you was, you know, getting off to that good start

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<v Speaker 4>and you did a lot of things to get that accomplishment,

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<v Speaker 4>and that just didn't work out. Has to be really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 10>You just got to take a deep breath. This is

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<v Speaker 10>what we wanted. Uh, we have to be accountable for

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<v Speaker 10>why it happened. For row and one, we got sixteen

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<v Speaker 10>left to play, tremendous opportunity to go on the road

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<v Speaker 10>next week and flip all this momentum. And so again

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<v Speaker 10>that's that's how we got to look at it. We

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<v Speaker 10>got to handle ourselves internally, not worry about the external noise.

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<v Speaker 10>We know we'll be there and I know our guys

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<v Speaker 10>will do a great.

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<v Speaker 5>Job of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And final, final, how did you think Jamar Chase played?

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<v Speaker 10>I thought he gave us enough to make some plays

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<v Speaker 10>and and we got to continue give him opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bengals are zero and one, just like the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens and Browns. The only team in the AFC North

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<v Speaker 1>to win its opener was Pittsburgh. Chris Boswell kicked six

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<v Speaker 1>field goals, including three from fifty plus as the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Falcons eighteen ten. Up next for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>their radio guys recap lap. One of the biggest question

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<v Speaker 1>marks about this team going into the season was would

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<v Speaker 1>they be able to stop the run better than they

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<v Speaker 1>did a year ago? And unfortunately, in Week one the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is now. One hundred and seventy rushing yards for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. I haven't seen how many of those were

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<v Speaker 1>yards after contact, but I'm guessing it was a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>for Amandre Stevenson.

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<v Speaker 4>No doubt, Dan, he had one hundred and twenty of

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<v Speaker 4>them on twenty five carries. He had ten carries of

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<v Speaker 4>five yards of more. So it wasn't he wasn't just

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, Nicol and Diamondum. He hit one for

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen yards, it hits one for sixteen, the next carry

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<v Speaker 4>for seventeen two carries later, nineteen yard run. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>he had multiple carries of nine yards or more. He

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<v Speaker 4>had another twelve yard run. I mean he was consistently

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<v Speaker 4>gashing the Cincinnati Bengals front seven. And I asked Zach

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<v Speaker 4>after the game that could he tell if it was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not mental mistake about filling the wrong gap

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<v Speaker 4>or getting moved out of the gap, because we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about a couple of times during the during the game,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought they were getting moved out of the gap

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<v Speaker 4>more so than the mental era. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what their gap control responsibilities are, so Zach SAIDY have

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<v Speaker 4>to look at the tape a little a little closer

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<v Speaker 4>to find out. But whatever it was, it certainly wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the team with a questionable offensive line. Left guard out,

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle not thought to be very good. Right guard

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<v Speaker 1>rookie dominated in the run game, only surrendered one sack.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very disappointing performance for Cincinnati against that line.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely because they never got them to where they had

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<v Speaker 4>to pass protect. And when they did, I mean four times,

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<v Speaker 4>Jacoby Brissett tucked it and ran the football for thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four yards. I mean, he was his legs were a factor.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about him. I mean, he's a grown man.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy sixty four and thirty five pounds, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>got a very quick first step. When he decides to

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<v Speaker 4>step up in the pocket, he's sudden, and he's strong,

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<v Speaker 4>and he breaks through arm tackles. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to sack him. You're not going to sack him

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<v Speaker 4>by grabbing him with one hand and sling him to

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<v Speaker 4>the ground, and it's just not going to happen. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought he was a force. I thought he ran through contact.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, you know, he was a huge factor with

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<v Speaker 4>his throwing arm, made enough plays with the throwing arm

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<v Speaker 4>and then his feet. He really hurt the Bengals because

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say probably four of those carries were on Three

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<v Speaker 4>of the four carries were probably on third down where

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<v Speaker 4>he moved the chains and kept drives alive.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the first time in twenty five years that

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick was not the Patriots head coach. If you

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<v Speaker 1>watched this game with no video of who was on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, you would have said it was a Belichick win.

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<v Speaker 1>Win the turnover battle to nothing, control the clock, no

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<v Speaker 1>silly penalties. I mean, Gerrod Mayo coached for the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>played for the guy, and today his team won like

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<v Speaker 1>he was still the coach.

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<v Speaker 4>At halftime, he came off the field and told the

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<v Speaker 4>TV crew were winning in the trenches. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as a former lineman, that's all I was saying the

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<v Speaker 4>whole game. I mean, it was so evident, so obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't have to be a football einstein. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy is obviously a brilliant football coach. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean everything that had to be done, the boxes

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<v Speaker 4>that needed to be checked to beat a team like

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals, they did. And the thing that's unbelievable to

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<v Speaker 4>me is brought up during the game. They fumbled it

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<v Speaker 4>ten times all of last year and lost two two

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<v Speaker 4>fumbels the whole season. Best in club history. They have

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<v Speaker 4>two fumbels that they lose in this football game a

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<v Speaker 4>little over two quarters. So you know, it's it's like

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<v Speaker 4>the self destruction, you know, no ball security, shooting yourself

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<v Speaker 4>in the foot, whatever you want to call it. It cropped,

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<v Speaker 4>its its reared its ugly head, and you know, going

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<v Speaker 4>into score Tanner Hudson just tucked that ball away. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>don't don't hold it out there and give them an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Worst case scenario, get tackled at the one exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's like, you know, make sure that you

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<v Speaker 4>secure the pig man. I mean, don't don't hold it

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<v Speaker 4>out there. You know, in the in the low red zone,

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming, there's not that much ground to cover. They're

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<v Speaker 4>there if you hold it out there, man, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a big old bulls eye on it, and they're going

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<v Speaker 4>for it. And they did and they got it out,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and then I mean everybody's guilty. Special teams,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, crucial fum will give them a short field.

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<v Speaker 4>They scored ten points off the two fumbles. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in a game that the Bengals lose by six, the

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<v Speaker 4>two turnovers, they didn't turn it over. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean they played Bill Belichick New York Giant, New England

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<v Speaker 4>Patriot football good defense. I mean, they shut down the

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<v Speaker 4>running game the Bengals. The Bengals running game was about

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred yards less. It was just over seventy yards

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<v Speaker 4>to one hundred and seventy for the New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a football feel differential there. And of

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<v Speaker 4>course they didn't run an anywhere near as many times.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, shoot, I guess they probably had more than

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five carries that Stevenson had. But I mean it

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<v Speaker 4>was I thought in the second half it got better

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought they played better in the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>That first half was I mean, that wasn't Bengals football.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what am I looking at? I just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't recognize what was going on out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really mystified by the first three drives. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you come out, Joe Burrow's gone through camp. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing t Higgins. But one, two, three point one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>three point one, two three point on your first three

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<v Speaker 1>drives of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Stunning, totally, you know, and you're you're looking at a

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<v Speaker 4>Patriots defense that's finished in the top ten to four

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<v Speaker 4>out of the last five years. They were number seven

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<v Speaker 4>last year, and they were returning nine to eleven stars.

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<v Speaker 4>But the two stars they lost were significant, but particularly

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<v Speaker 4>one a jew Done is a rusher. But man, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean they had a lot of guys returning that gave

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<v Speaker 4>up only ninety three yards a game on the ground

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<v Speaker 4>last year, which was fourth in the league but third

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<v Speaker 4>best in Patriot history. Three point three yards of carry

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<v Speaker 4>was the lowest that any team has had since the

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<v Speaker 4>merger in nineteen seventy. So this team knows how to

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<v Speaker 4>stop the run, and they had nine guys returning that

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<v Speaker 4>were in the same spots knowing how to stop the run,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Bengals really struggled to get their running game going.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, again, you know, almost any level of football.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's that imbalanced in the trenches, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>trouble winning the football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. Mr Chase targeted six times, six catches,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two yards. I mean, it wasn't the greatest game

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 1>he's ever played, but that's pretty impressive considering his lack

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp snaps.

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<v Speaker 4>No doubt. And the last catch he had was twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight yards, you know, and it looked, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of the football field. He found a found

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<v Speaker 4>an alley, found a lane in there, and he had

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of catches double digit yards. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he started to climb into a rhythm a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's when you're going against a defense that good, that

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<v Speaker 4>has that good players in the secondary as well, those

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<v Speaker 4>guys stopping the run. That's just a very well put

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<v Speaker 4>together defense by players that totally understand what they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do inside out in terms of disguise and you know, confusion, chaos,

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.479
<v Speaker 4>all the things that they try to do. It's it

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:55.639
<v Speaker 4>is they're just orchestrated so well. It's like watching you know,

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 4>a dance performance, you know, the way everybody just is

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 4>in total steps, total sync with each other when when

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<v Speaker 4>they're playing that way, it's a it's a beautiful thing

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 4>to watch. Unless you're trying to operate against it, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not so fun to watch. But man, that was That

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<v Speaker 4>was definitely a challenge for him, without any real snaps

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere training camp, to go out against that high level,

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 4>a caliber of football player that has is in another

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<v Speaker 4>level of football conditioning than you are. It's challenging. But

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<v Speaker 4>this guy's unique. He's a freakazoid man. He really is.

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<v Speaker 1>No complaints about Ryan Rico. In his Bengals debut as punter,

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<v Speaker 1>he set a franchise record with an eighty yarder that

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<v Speaker 1>traveled seventy yards in the air before going into the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Averaged more than sixty yards per punt. Very

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<v Speaker 1>very impressive work by the young man from BYU.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked him if he had one any longer eighty

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 4>three he had at BYU, and uh, that's rarefied air,

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, that's I'm not saying everybody can

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<v Speaker 4>punt the ball eighty three yards of Byu or anywhere,

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 4>but for him to an eighty yard here and it

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<v Speaker 4>was within a whisker of going out at the foot line,

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<v Speaker 4>it could have been an eighty yard net. I mean

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 4>it's a sixty yard net, but man, it could have

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 4>been an eighty yard net. You talk about flipping the field, man,

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, and Uh talked to him in the post game.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very humble about it, you know. He said it

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<v Speaker 4>would have been a lot better to have that record

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<v Speaker 4>in a victory, obviously, but I said, you know the

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<v Speaker 4>way you flip the field, though, Man, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>a weapon that, you know, in football games during the

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<v Speaker 4>course of the season, the Bengals gonna lean on you. You've

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 4>proven you can do it, and that's gonna be that's

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 4>gonna be tough to match every single week.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, and I kidded with him, I said, you

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<v Speaker 4>know those Nikes, they got a dynamite cap in that toe,

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 4>and you know what did Nike do for you to

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 4>get you to explode that ball off your off your toe,

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 4>off your foot like that? And he goes, now here's

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 4>a standard Nike order, you know, but it's he is. Uh.

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 4>He's a big kid. I mean solid six ' four ish,

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 4>i'd say two hundred and thirty five pounds. I mean

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 4>he looks like a like a linebacker or you know,

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 4>something of that tight end, something of that ilk and

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 4>he has got some strength in that body. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bengals open with a loss against the team

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>most of us thought they would beat. Now they've got

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>to try to beat a team in Week two that

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<v Speaker 1>not many people think they're going to win, at least

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>down the road in Arrowhead against Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Kansas City has a dogfight against the Baltimore Ravens.

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean could have been either team's football game. Kansas

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 4>City comes out on top. That's good. You know, Baltimore

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 4>has a loss in the AFC unfortunately, now so of

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 4>the Bengals. So, I mean, you're gonna go to Kansas

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 4>City and try to give them, you know, an AFC loss.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 4>And Joe Burrow has beaten Mahomes three times. He's three

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 4>and one. He's the only guy I think with a

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 4>winning record against Mahomes. Hopefully he can build on that.

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be going to be a challenge. I

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 4>mean that place, I mean, Dan, we've been there, but man,

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 4>the crowd is so crazy.

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 8>Man.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals certainly know what to expect. This is the

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>fourth straight year they've played on the road at Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So far, this hasn't been the most enjoyable podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I promise we are ending with a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>you will thoroughly enjoy. Season fifty seven is about to

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>begin for the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's always a treat

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to visit with team president Mike Brown. Mike, we typically

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>go down memory lane in these visits, and I thought

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.919
<v Speaker 1>it might be fun to reminisce about some of the

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>more amusing moments in franchise history. Let's start in nineteen

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight when your then eighty year old father, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Hall of Fame coach Paul Brown, did the

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Icky shuffle in public. Were you as surprised as everybody else?

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<v Speaker 7>Not?

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<v Speaker 11>Really, I knew how supple he was. He was an

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 11>extremely well coordinated man, and that stayed with him until

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 11>very close to the end. He was athletic as a youngster.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 11>He could pull ball, played baseball, played center field, he

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 11>played football, he played basketball. That part of it never

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 11>left him. As a kid. I would get involved with

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 11>him out in the backyard shooting baskets, and I thought,

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 11>you know, we got this old guy here. He won't

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 11>be able to do much in the heck, he could

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 11>shoot far better than any of us could. He was

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 11>very accurate, and it's hard to lay off and then

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 11>go out and put it through, but he could do that.

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 11>Was more embarrassed by.

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<v Speaker 4>It than.

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<v Speaker 11>I know I should have been. I didn't look at

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 11>it like others did. I said, oh my god, he's

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 11>not doing that.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He did you ever attempt the icky shuffle yourself?

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<v Speaker 11>Not even to this moment were there any plans to

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<v Speaker 11>do shit, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not too late.

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<v Speaker 1>One year later, in December of nineteen eighty nine, after

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<v Speaker 1>fans threw snowballs on the field at Riverfront Stadium, Sam

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Whitch took the microphone into his hands and said, you

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati. When he

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>grabbed that microphone, did you instantly think.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 11>Oh, oh, Sam was Sam and he had these moments

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 11>that would come upon him when he would act in

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 11>unexpected ways. I'll put it, and that was one of them.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 11>I don't think it was pre thought or pre planned.

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 11>I think it just blurted out and it was absolutely

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 11>perfect because our audience responded to that. They thought it

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 11>was funny, they thought it was appropriate, and they stopped

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 11>throwing snowballs. I've seen way back during that period when

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 11>a league rule required coaches to ask for good behavior

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 11>from the stands or for the stands to quiet down

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 11>or whatever. And I've seen people like Chuck no and

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 11>top coaches, historically famous coaches, they just pretended because they

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 11>knew they couldn't do anything about it. They try controlling

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 11>a group of fans when they're up in the bit.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 11>It isn't something that's very easy. But Sam, to his credit,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 11>managed it, and I give him great credit.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 3>For the moment.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's another Samwich moment, the time he ran up the

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>score on a coach he didn't like, Jerry Glanville. Sam

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>successfully tried non side kick up forty five nothing. He

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>kicked the field goal in the final thirty seconds up

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight to seven. Needless to say, there was no

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>postgame handshake. Were you amused or horrified?

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 11>I thought it was probably not the thing to do.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 11>But that was also Sam being Sam. He could have

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 11>those moments again. This one I would not have been

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 11>so approving.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 5>But.

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<v Speaker 11>It didn't mean anything.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 4>It was maybe just.

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<v Speaker 11>Being let's say, unpolite.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Any list of amusing moments in Bengals history has to

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>include something about Chad Johnson I've got a couple of things. First,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand and nine preseason game, after kickers Shane

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Graham strained his groin, Chad drilled a game winning extra point.

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any idea he could kick well?

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 11>He always said he was a great soccer player, and

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 11>that was a preseason game, if I remember right up

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 11>in Boston. He went out and kicked the extra point through.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 11>I think he did a kickoff which went fairly well,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 11>and he did it with never having practiced doing this

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 11>sort of thing. Belichick noticed it, and in my mind

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 11>the years later he picked up Chad. I thought, maybe

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 11>I'm wrong on this. That Chad's performance that day des

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 11>grabbed his attention and made the Chad register in his mind.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and four, Chad sent bottles of pepto

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>bismol to the Browns defense backs before a game, implying

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that they would be sick to their stomachs after facing him.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Harmless fun or bulletin board material.

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<v Speaker 11>I'd put that in the rather stupid department. If you're

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 11>going to go toe to toe with somebody, you don't

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 11>need to pretend it's professional wrestling. Don't rev them up.

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 11>That was what I was taught, and when he did

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 11>things like that, I probably wished he had not.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>For many fans, the greatest win in franchise history was

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the Freezer bowld in nineteen eighty one AFC Championship game.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction when my broadcast partner Dave Lapham

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<v Speaker 1>convinced his fellow offensive lineman to go sleeveless despite the

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>minus fifty nine Winshill.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you're bringing up all these stupid actions, that question,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 11>and that was cold. That was so cold that it

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 11>didn't feel cold. It felt like burning sensation almost. And

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 11>I know the Army books say that you can withstand

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 11>that kind of cold if you're appropriately dressed. Well, being

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 11>short sleeved as not being appropriately dressed. Our guys thought

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 11>it sent a message. Maybe it did. I think that

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 11>sent the message was when that door went up and

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 11>chargers came out on the field. It was cold. They

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 11>weren't used to that. They right there and then I

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 11>think put their tails between their legs. They didn't want

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 11>any part of that weather. Our guys had practiced in

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 11>it forrested make him practice in that, and he wouldn't

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 11>let them think that it was anything out of the way.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 11>They were tough and coming from the West Coast when

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 11>you hadn't encountered any frigid weather, that would have been

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 11>a hard thing to.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Claim, didn't the Charger's owner generously offer to move the

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>game to San Diego.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 11>Yeah. He came up to me and said, I have

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.959
<v Speaker 11>a good idea. He wanted to move the game out

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 11>to San Diego, and I said, I don't think so.

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 11>Our fans would be disappointed.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>They said, all right, I know. This next one probably

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was not amusing at the time, but Tim Crumrai broke

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>his leg in four places in Super Bowl twenty three

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and refused to go to the hospital, insisting on watching

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the game in the locker room for as long as

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he was allowed. This was before cell phones. Were you

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>aware that that was going on?

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 11>I don't think so. It might have been aware later on,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 11>but not immediately, as I recall, And Timmy is a

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 11>tough nut, about as rough and tough as they come.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 11>If anyone could have he would have played with that.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 11>But it was obviously an impossibility. It was a serious injury.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 11>The turf was bad. We went down there and that

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 11>was a grass field, but it was on a sand

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 11>base and overnight the ground's crew made a mistake. They

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 11>left the suction on, so all the water was drained

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 11>out of the field and it took enough water to

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 11>keep the sod attached to the sand. You dig up

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 11>these huge divots like bathroom rugs and timmy, I always

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 11>thought paid the price for them. That was the thought

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 11>that was in my mind. I didn't know about some

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 11>of the other aspects until later.

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<v Speaker 1>Before drafting Anthony Munio's number three overall in nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>you sent Forrest greg to Los Angeles to work him out,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a pass rushing drill, Anthony slammed him so

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<v Speaker 1>hard that he knocked Forrest to his backside. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>the final confirmation you needed to know that Anthony Munoz

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<v Speaker 1>was healthy and your guy.

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<v Speaker 11>That was for Forrest the final cont For some of

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<v Speaker 11>the rest of us, it probably came along at different points.

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<v Speaker 11>I remember at the Rose Bowl game, I was with

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<v Speaker 11>my dad and brother and we were sitting watching it

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<v Speaker 11>on TV. Anthony played and he just dominated the Ohio

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<v Speaker 11>State guy in front of it. That's when I became convinced.

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<v Speaker 11>But the thing with Anthony was that not everyone thought

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<v Speaker 11>he was going to heal up and be able to

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<v Speaker 11>handle our doctor George Balou said he would, and George

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<v Speaker 11>was right, and of course Anthony had a Hall of

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<v Speaker 11>Fame career.

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<v Speaker 1>Forrest Gregg wanted players to wear suits on road trips,

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<v Speaker 1>so Harvard educated punter Pat mcinally showed up in a

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<v Speaker 1>limo wearing a tuxedo complete with top hat and cane.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember seeing that?

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<v Speaker 11>I fortunately do not, and I wouldn't have cared if

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<v Speaker 11>I had. Pat was a live wiren he meant to

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<v Speaker 11>be funny and have fun. Forrest would have laughed. I think,

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<v Speaker 11>if I remember right, he did. He wouldn't have taken

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<v Speaker 11>exception to it at all. It was just any funny

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<v Speaker 11>moment for the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Final one, This one is more touching than amusing. You

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<v Speaker 1>gave Adam Jones a chance to revive his career.

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<v Speaker 3>He had eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine seasons with Cincinnati, and he was so appreciative of

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<v Speaker 1>your support that he commissioned an artist to do a

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<v Speaker 1>sketch of you and your father watching practice together. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your reaction when you receive that gift.

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<v Speaker 11>I like Adam Jones. I know he had these incidents

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<v Speaker 11>off and on, but Adam Jones is quite bright. He's smart,

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<v Speaker 11>he's quick minded. He didn't come up the easy way,

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<v Speaker 11>and some of the discipline.

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<v Speaker 3>That you lose that you learn with the.

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<v Speaker 11>Normal average upbringing. He didn't come across the so there

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<v Speaker 11>be times when he would flare out instantly and suffer

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<v Speaker 11>the consequences. But if you knew him as a person,

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<v Speaker 11>you would admire him because he was fun to talk to,

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<v Speaker 11>quick a mind, and I'll never forget how he was

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<v Speaker 11>when his little daughter was a premie and it was

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<v Speaker 11>predicted that the odds were against her. We were down

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<v Speaker 11>at training camp in Georgetown. After practice. He'd get in

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<v Speaker 11>his car every night and drive up the Cincinnati to

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<v Speaker 11>tap on the window and look at her in the

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<v Speaker 11>nursery at the hospital. And the little girl today is

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<v Speaker 11>grown and is a wonderful young lady. So when I

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<v Speaker 11>think of Adam Jones, I think of things like that,

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<v Speaker 11>not some of these other problems that have I've cropped up.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, I always enjoy our visits.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for your time and best of

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<v Speaker 1>luck this year.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks very much.

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