1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Something in the Orange edition 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: as the Bengals open the season in Orange but come 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: up short on the scoreboard, losing to the Patriots sixteen 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: to ten. Coming up radio replays, locker room comments and 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's Fun 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Facts Conversation, I'll discuss some humorous moments in franchise history 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: with team president Mike Brown. You will enjoy our trip 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: down memory lane. 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It's the greatest thing since my all 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: time favorite line on a TV show, HBO ran a 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Sopranos marathon over the last week or so, and when 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I was flipping channels on the remote, I wound up 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: watching bits and pieces of several episodes, including one that 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: features perhaps my all time favorite line of dialogue. Christopher 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: is in the hospital having nightmares about going to Hell 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: for his mob related sins. That freaks out Polly Walnuts, 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: who worries that he's headed there in the afterlife too, 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: so he quizzes Christopher about his nightmare and asks if 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Hell was hot in his dream. After Christopher answers, I 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: don't know, Polly triumphantly says, the heat would have been 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the first thing you noticed. Hell is hot. That's never 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: been disputed. I have probably said hell is hot, never 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: been disputed a million times since first seeing that episode. 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: It cracks me up every time. Now let's get to 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: football and the radio replays from week one. The weather 35 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: was perfect, and kudos to Bengals fans for turning the 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: jungle into an ocean of orange. It looked great in 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: person and on TV, and I, for one hope the 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: open and orange tradition is here to stay. The Bengals 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: offense got off to a slow start, but rookie punter 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Rico didn't. His first NFL punt went fifty seven 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: yards and his second set a franchise record wereco waiting 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: at the five. Snap is shoulder high, the right footed 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: punt is goosh, holy cow, it's going to fly to 44 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the nine, bounce. 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Us to the five, chip us toward the pylon and 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: just barely goes into the end zone that would. 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Have been at the one foot line. 48 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: It's an eighty yard punt had traveled seventy yards in 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: the air. It's still sixty net yards despite bouncing into 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: the end zone. 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: Howard's a shot there. 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: Boy. 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: That was the longest punt in team history, but not 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: the longest ever for Rico. 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 5: I think I had an eighty three at YU three. Yeah, 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: but that was a little while ago too, and they 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: come around every so often. It's fun, but yeah, definitely 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: couldn't be more grateful. 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: The previous Bengals record was seventy five yards, shared by 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Huber and Kyle Larson. Rico averaged sixty four and 61 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: a half yards on four punts in the game, and 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: that is also a new single game team record. The 63 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Patriots took a seven to nothing lead on a three 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run by Romandre Stevenson on the first play 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: of the second quarter. But a few minutes later, the 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Bengals offense started to cook Burrow in the shotgun. Moss 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: lines up to his right, Tanner Hudson motions out to 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the left. Burrow drops back to throw fires caught by 69 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: Chase Jamar at the fifteen. The fourteen hits a first 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: down for Cincinnati. He took Christian Gonzales for a ride 71 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: and the Bengals are in the red zone for a 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: first down. Two plays later, they went from the red 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: zone to the end zone. Drew Sample lines up in 74 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: the backfield to the left of Burrow. Shotgun snap Joe 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: looking right, He'll float it for the end zone. 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 6: It if baby caught for the touchdown. 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: Mike Kasiki against his former team with his first touchdown 78 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: in a Bengals uniform. He does his version of the gritty, 79 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: which isn't exactly perfectly executed, but the Bengals have scored 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: their first touchdown of the year. 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Or so we thought. As the Bengals lined up for 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: the game tying extra point, the officials studied the replay 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: and determined that Kasiki did not complete the catch as 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: he went to the ground no touchdown, but the Bengals 85 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: still had the ball in the red zone. They're down 86 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: in eleven four the fifteen Burrow quick pass over. 87 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: The minute cut by Tanner Hudson loses the football picked 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: up in. 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: The end zone by the Patriots. They are running it 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: back to the ten to the fifteen and the tackle 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: is made at the seventeen yard line. Tanner Hudson, on 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: the verge of going into the end zone for a touchdown, 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: had the ball knocked away. Marcus Jones scooped up the 94 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: ricochet right at the goal line and ran it back 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to the seventeen. Before Jamar Chase could make the stop. 96 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: He exposed the football and Douger made him pay. 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Instead of being a tie game, the Patriots were still 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: up by seven, and a field goal on the final 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: play of the half made it ten to nothing New England. 100 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: The Bengals defense promptly got a three and out to 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: begin the second half, but Cincinnati made another costly mistake. 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: The long snapper Cardona fires it back. Baringer launches a 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: very very high punt. Charlie Jones, back pedaling and catching 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: at the ten, has a little bit of running room 105 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: He's to the fifteen to twenty the ball and the 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Patriots recover at the twenty four yard line. 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: Man. 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: That led to a field goal in a thirteen to 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: nothing lead. It was time for the offense to deliver 110 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: and the Bengals quickly drove into New England territory. The 111 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Bengals line up to go for it on fourth and 112 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: two at the New England thirty six. Three receivers out 113 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: to the right burrow in the gun. He catches his 114 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: shoulder high snap, throws a screen out to the right. 115 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Yo see Bosh tackle it to thirty five? What not 116 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: short of the first down, oh Man. After five drives, 117 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals still had not scored, but that changed the 118 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: next time. They got the ball, first and goal from 119 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: the five Burrow in the pistol again, turns left, gives 120 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: it to. 121 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: Moss right up the medal touchdown down Baby Bengals sack 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 6: Moss up the gut head into the end zone for 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 6: his first Bengals touchdown. 124 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: What I liked on. 125 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 7: That I saw a blocker finishing a defender into the 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 7: end zone on his backside. The Bengals were starting to 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 7: catch you control of the minus scrimmage. A little bit 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 7: mosses up the football field and boy, I'll tell you 129 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 7: watching this well, take him to the ground, finish him, 130 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 7: put him on his backside. 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: Good stuff. 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: It was thirteen to seven going to the fourth quarter. 133 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: A Patriots field goal made it sixteen to seven, but 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals scored for the second drive in a row. 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Shotgun snapped to Burrow four man rush throws down the 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: minute of the field, Chase with a catch in Patriots' 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: territory and he gets tackled in the middle of the 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: field at the thirty six huff New England by Jabril 139 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: Peppers twenty eight yards to Jamar Chase. That led to 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: an Evan McPherson field goal that made it sixteen to ten, 141 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: and the defense forced to punt with about three minutes 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: to go. That gave the Bengals a chance for a 143 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: game winning drive. Unfortunately, it was not to be. The 144 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Bengals elected to punt on fourth and five from their 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: own fifteen with two and a half minutes to go 146 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: in three timeouts remaining, but the Patriots were able to 147 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: run for two first downs to win the game six 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: sixteen ten. Holding a team to sixteen points is usually 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: enough to win but not when you lose the turnover 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: battle to Zip, and not when you allow the opponent 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: to rush for one hundred and seventy yards on thirty 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: nine carries to dominate time of possession. Logan Wilson led 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals with thirteen tackles and three quarterback hits. And 154 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I talked to them after the game, what aspect of 155 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: the game bothers. 156 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: You them rushing for one hundred and seventy rushing yards. 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 8: We've talked about all off season how we're going to 158 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 8: clean that shit up, and it's we didn't. 159 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: So obviously we still I worked too. We gotta tackle better. 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: That starts with tackling. 161 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, it seemed like there 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: were several of those running plays where you guys were 163 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: in position to get them down and maybe got two 164 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: more yards, four more yards, six more yards, whatever it 165 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: might have been. 166 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's seen those issues that were from last year. 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we still have time to clean up. 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 8: Obviously, we had sixteen more games, but we got to 169 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 8: let this one sting quite a bit, just because we 170 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 8: got to clean that that stuff up up the bath. 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 8: We gotta be better on defense. We gotta get turnovers. 172 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 8: We had no turnovers today, and when you win the 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 8: turnover battle, I think plus plus two in this league 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 8: is like winning percent, just like seventy eight. 175 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: So odds are high. When you get turnovers, you forced 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: to fumble. 177 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, at the bottom of the pile, they guess they 178 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: willed that Stevenson held on long enough. 179 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I got he did. I thought Joseph came 180 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 8: up with it. I wasn't really sure who came up 181 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 8: with it. Everyone was seeing Osai came up with it, 182 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 8: and so I was hoping that we were. They were 183 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 8: letting him play through. But unfortunately it didn't go away. 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into trying 185 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: to get off to a better start this year. Is 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: it a little bewildering it? For whatever reason, Week one 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: just has not gone well. 188 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 189 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna panic, that's for sure. 190 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 8: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna look myself in the mirror. See, 191 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 8: but I gotta do better. 192 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: And then because the defense gotta sue we can do better. 193 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 8: Especial teams offense is do the same, and we gotta 194 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 8: put our best foot forward because it's not like we're 195 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 8: going into an easy environment, going to Ahead and playing 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 8: in Kansas City. 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time Offensively, Joe Burrow was twenty one for 198 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: twenty nine, that's seventy two percent, but he had to 199 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: settle for short passes with the Patriots taking away the 200 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: deep ball. Joe threw for one hundred and sixty four 201 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: yards and had a passer rating of eighty six. Zach 202 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Moss was the team's leading rusher with forty four yards. 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase was the leading receiver with six catches for 204 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: sixty two. For more on the offense, here's tight end 205 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Mike KASICKI. I thought you had your first touchdown in 206 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: a Bengals uniform. I guess after seeing the replay the 207 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: ball skidded on the ground. 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: What did you think. 209 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen a replay of 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 9: it yet, so unfortunately I can't really comment on it 211 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 9: too soon. But definitely thought I had it. You know, 212 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 9: Obviously I wouldn't have, you know, celebrated like I did. Yeah, 213 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 9: if I didn't, But unfortunately, I mean, that was the 214 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 9: call and it is what it is. 215 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Kind of a frustrating day for the offense. Arded slowly 216 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: from the fourth possession on you moved the ball well, 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, those first three drives just couldn't 218 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: get it going. 219 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, it is, like you said, unfortunate. You know, we 220 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 9: got a lot of good players, a lot of great coaches, 221 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 9: and I think the right people in this in this 222 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 9: locker room. So you know, we'll go back watch the tape, uh, 223 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 9: see what we can do better improve on, and come 224 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 9: back next week ready. 225 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: To feel like t was badly missed today. 226 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 9: Uh. Yeah, me and a guy of his caliber and talent, Uh, 227 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 9: that's always gonna you know, affect the offense. But you 228 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 9: know some other guys got to step up, including myself, 229 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 9: and you know, next week's a new week. 230 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: You were a Patriot last year, that game kind of 231 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: felt like a bella check performance to me. They didn't 232 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: turn it over, they led the clock, They did the 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: things that the Patriots had historically done well when they went. 234 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, we've lost the turnover battle and 235 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 9: they won the time in possession battle and all that 236 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 9: kind of stuff. So uh, you know, at the end 237 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 9: of the day, you know, we got some things that 238 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 9: we have to clean up, and we know that, and 239 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 9: you know we'll be ready to come back in tomorrow 240 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 9: and get to work. 241 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Half of the league got a bounce back in week one. 242 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: That's where we are unfortunately. 243 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, no doubt, it's a long season. It's only September eighth, 244 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 9: so plenty of time. 245 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: Mike, appreciate you time. 246 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 9: Appreciate it. 247 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: Now. Let's hear what Zach Taylor had to say as 248 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: he spent a couple of minutes with Lap after the game. 249 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 10: We got to tackle better and we got to get 250 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 10: the ball of them losing the turn of battle two 251 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 10: to nothing, you know, and the chart Troy three to 252 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 10: nothing with a failed first fourth down. But that's not 253 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 10: unacceptable in week one. That's not gonna win you any games. 254 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: Last year ten Fumbals lost two of them all season 255 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: long Clubber only losing two fumbles none to lose two 256 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: and like just a little bit over half had to 257 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 4: be disappointed. 258 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, two loose with the ball. I mean it's very 259 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 10: simple there. There's not a big mystery to what I happened, 260 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 10: and so we'll certainly address it and do a better 261 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 10: job moving forward. 262 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: When when something happens like that, funnel like that in 263 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: a low red zone going into score, I mean, it 264 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: just picks the ear up of the balloom, doesn't it. 265 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 10: Well, that's you talk about contrimary football. You know, that's 266 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 10: where another side's got to rise up and get a 267 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 10: big stop. Unfortunately, they got ten points off of our turnovers, 268 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 10: three of them. The defense did a great job off 269 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 10: of a sudden change on a pump fumble held them 270 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 10: to a field goal. Excellent job. We just we obviously 271 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 10: can't fumble in the red zone and then we got 272 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 10: to get stopped once they get the ball. 273 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: Controlling the line of scrimmage. Winning in the trenches is 274 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: such a big deal. Did the Patriots move guys out 275 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: of gap control responsibilities? Did they not hit them right? 276 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 4: Was a combination? I know you haven't had time to 277 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: check it. 278 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll I have to watch the tay see that. 279 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 11: So what the. 280 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: Spot running the football as well? And want to get 281 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: that on tracks as well. 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 5: Well. 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 10: We certainly got a ton of momentum there in the 284 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 10: second half. You know, it felt like we were moving 285 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 10: the ball well, finished with the ball in the end 286 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 10: zone on a great run, great drive. We'd run the 287 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 10: ball well. Unfortunately, the next possession we got the ball 288 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 10: eight minutes down two scores, and so that kind of 289 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 10: takes the ball out of the back's hands in that case, 290 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 10: and we knew we were probably on to get two 291 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 10: possessions left in the game down two posion, so we 292 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 10: had to throw the ball to try to maximize the clock. 293 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: Coach, what what did you What did you tell the 294 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: guys after the game? What was your What was the 295 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: biggest part of your message? 296 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 10: That's what I told you to turn of a battle 297 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 10: and tackling. You know, you can't expect to one week 298 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 10: one when they get two more possessions than you do. 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 10: You take points off the board, you know, from one 300 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 10: on the two yard line and and you know, so 301 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 10: it's just in the way we tackle it. At the 302 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 10: end of the game, particularly, it wasn't good enough. 303 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: And I and finally, I know a big key for 304 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: you was, you know, getting off to that good start 305 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: and you did a lot of things to get that accomplishment, 306 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: and that just didn't work out. Has to be really frustrating. 307 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 10: You just got to take a deep breath. This is 308 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 10: what we wanted. Uh, we have to be accountable for 309 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 10: why it happened. For row and one, we got sixteen 310 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 10: left to play, tremendous opportunity to go on the road 311 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 10: next week and flip all this momentum. And so again 312 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 10: that's that's how we got to look at it. We 313 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 10: got to handle ourselves internally, not worry about the external noise. 314 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 10: We know we'll be there and I know our guys 315 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 10: will do a great. 316 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: Job of that. 317 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: And final, final, how did you think Jamar Chase played? 318 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 10: I thought he gave us enough to make some plays 319 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 10: and and we got to continue give him opportunities. 320 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Thank you. 321 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: So the Bengals are zero and one, just like the 322 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Ravens and Browns. The only team in the AFC North 323 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: to win its opener was Pittsburgh. Chris Boswell kicked six 324 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: field goals, including three from fifty plus as the Steelers 325 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: beat the Falcons eighteen ten. Up next for the Bengals 326 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: a road game next Sunday afternoon against the two time 327 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. The Bengals Booth 328 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, proud to 329 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: be the Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber 330 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: future Proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 331 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by kettering health 332 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 333 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for 334 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: their radio guys recap lap. One of the biggest question 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: marks about this team going into the season was would 336 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: they be able to stop the run better than they 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: did a year ago? And unfortunately, in Week one the 338 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: answer is now. One hundred and seventy rushing yards for 339 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I haven't seen how many of those were 340 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: yards after contact, but I'm guessing it was a bunch 341 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: for Amandre Stevenson. 342 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: No doubt, Dan, he had one hundred and twenty of 343 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: them on twenty five carries. He had ten carries of 344 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: five yards of more. So it wasn't he wasn't just 345 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: like you know, Nicol and Diamondum. He hit one for 346 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: fourteen yards, it hits one for sixteen, the next carry 347 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: for seventeen two carries later, nineteen yard run. I mean 348 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: he had multiple carries of nine yards or more. He 349 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: had another twelve yard run. I mean he was consistently 350 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: gashing the Cincinnati Bengals front seven. And I asked Zach 351 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: after the game that could he tell if it was, 352 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: you know, not mental mistake about filling the wrong gap 353 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: or getting moved out of the gap, because we talked 354 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: about a couple of times during the during the game, 355 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: I thought they were getting moved out of the gap 356 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: more so than the mental era. But I don't know 357 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: what their gap control responsibilities are, so Zach SAIDY have 358 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: to look at the tape a little a little closer 359 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: to find out. But whatever it was, it certainly wasn't enough. 360 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't good. 361 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Against the team with a questionable offensive line. Left guard out, 362 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: left tackle not thought to be very good. Right guard 363 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: rookie dominated in the run game, only surrendered one sack. 364 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: That's a very disappointing performance for Cincinnati against that line. 365 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely because they never got them to where they had 366 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: to pass protect. And when they did, I mean four times, 367 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett tucked it and ran the football for thirty 368 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: four yards. I mean, he was his legs were a factor. 369 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: We talked about him. I mean, he's a grown man. 370 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: The guy sixty four and thirty five pounds, and he's 371 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: got a very quick first step. When he decides to 372 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: step up in the pocket, he's sudden, and he's strong, 373 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: and he breaks through arm tackles. You know, when you're 374 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: trying to sack him. You're not going to sack him 375 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: by grabbing him with one hand and sling him to 376 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: the ground, and it's just not going to happen. I 377 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: thought he was a force. I thought he ran through contact. 378 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, he was a huge factor with 379 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: his throwing arm, made enough plays with the throwing arm 380 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: and then his feet. He really hurt the Bengals because 381 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: I'd say probably four of those carries were on Three 382 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: of the four carries were probably on third down where 383 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: he moved the chains and kept drives alive. 384 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: This was the first time in twenty five years that 385 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was not the Patriots head coach. If you 386 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: watched this game with no video of who was on 387 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: the sideline, you would have said it was a Belichick win. 388 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Win the turnover battle to nothing, control the clock, no 389 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: silly penalties. I mean, Gerrod Mayo coached for the guy, 390 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: played for the guy, and today his team won like 391 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: he was still the coach. 392 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: At halftime, he came off the field and told the 393 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 4: TV crew were winning in the trenches. Well, you know, 394 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: as a former lineman, that's all I was saying the 395 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 4: whole game. I mean, it was so evident, so obvious. 396 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: You didn't have to be a football einstein. I mean, 397 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: this guy is obviously a brilliant football coach. But yeah, 398 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: I mean everything that had to be done, the boxes 399 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: that needed to be checked to beat a team like 400 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: the Bengals, they did. And the thing that's unbelievable to 401 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: me is brought up during the game. They fumbled it 402 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: ten times all of last year and lost two two 403 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: fumbels the whole season. Best in club history. They have 404 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: two fumbels that they lose in this football game a 405 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: little over two quarters. So you know, it's it's like 406 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: the self destruction, you know, no ball security, shooting yourself 407 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: in the foot, whatever you want to call it. It cropped, 408 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: its its reared its ugly head, and you know, going 409 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: into score Tanner Hudson just tucked that ball away. You know, 410 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: don't don't hold it out there and give them an 411 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: opportunity in the. 412 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, get tackled at the one exactly. 413 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, you know, make sure that you 414 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: secure the pig man. I mean, don't don't hold it 415 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: out there. You know, in the in the low red zone, 416 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: they're coming, there's not that much ground to cover. They're 417 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: there if you hold it out there, man, it's like 418 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: a big old bulls eye on it, and they're going 419 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 4: for it. And they did and they got it out, 420 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, and then I mean everybody's guilty. Special teams, 421 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, crucial fum will give them a short field. 422 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: They scored ten points off the two fumbles. So you know, 423 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: in a game that the Bengals lose by six, the 424 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: two turnovers, they didn't turn it over. So yeah, I 425 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: mean they played Bill Belichick New York Giant, New England 426 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: Patriot football good defense. I mean, they shut down the 427 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: running game the Bengals. The Bengals running game was about 428 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: one hundred yards less. It was just over seventy yards 429 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: to one hundred and seventy for the New England Patriots. 430 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: So it was a football feel differential there. And of 431 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: course they didn't run an anywhere near as many times. 432 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: I mean, shoot, I guess they probably had more than 433 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 4: twenty five carries that Stevenson had. But I mean it 434 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: was I thought in the second half it got better 435 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: and I thought they played better in the second half. 436 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: That first half was I mean, that wasn't Bengals football. 437 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: I was like, what am I looking at? I just 438 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: didn't recognize what was going on out there. 439 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm really mystified by the first three drives. I mean, 440 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: you come out, Joe Burrow's gone through camp. Yeah, you're 441 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: missing t Higgins. But one, two, three point one, two, 442 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: three point one, two three point on your first three 443 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: drives of the season. 444 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: Stunning, totally, you know, and you're you're looking at a 445 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: Patriots defense that's finished in the top ten to four 446 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: out of the last five years. They were number seven 447 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: last year, and they were returning nine to eleven stars. 448 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: But the two stars they lost were significant, but particularly 449 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: one a jew Done is a rusher. But man, I 450 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: mean they had a lot of guys returning that gave 451 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: up only ninety three yards a game on the ground 452 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: last year, which was fourth in the league but third 453 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: best in Patriot history. Three point three yards of carry 454 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: was the lowest that any team has had since the 455 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: merger in nineteen seventy. So this team knows how to 456 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: stop the run, and they had nine guys returning that 457 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: were in the same spots knowing how to stop the run, 458 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: and the Bengals really struggled to get their running game going. 459 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: I thought, again, you know, almost any level of football. 460 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: If it's that imbalanced in the trenches, you're gonna have 461 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: trouble winning the football game. 462 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Mr Chase targeted six times, six catches, 463 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: sixty two yards. I mean, it wasn't the greatest game 464 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: he's ever played, but that's pretty impressive considering his lack 465 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: of training camp snaps. 466 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 4: No doubt. And the last catch he had was twenty 467 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: eight yards, you know, and it looked, you know, in 468 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: the middle of the football field. He found a found 469 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: an alley, found a lane in there, and he had 470 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: a couple of catches double digit yards. You know, I 471 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: think he started to climb into a rhythm a little bit. 472 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: Uh. 473 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: It's when you're going against a defense that good, that 474 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: has that good players in the secondary as well, those 475 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: guys stopping the run. That's just a very well put 476 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: together defense by players that totally understand what they're trying 477 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: to do inside out in terms of disguise and you know, confusion, chaos, 478 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 4: all the things that they try to do. It's it 479 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: is they're just orchestrated so well. It's like watching you know, 480 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: a dance performance, you know, the way everybody just is 481 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: in total steps, total sync with each other when when 482 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: they're playing that way, it's a it's a beautiful thing 483 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: to watch. Unless you're trying to operate against it, it's 484 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: not so fun to watch. But man, that was That 485 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: was definitely a challenge for him, without any real snaps 486 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: anywhere training camp, to go out against that high level, 487 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: a caliber of football player that has is in another 488 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: level of football conditioning than you are. It's challenging. But 489 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: this guy's unique. He's a freakazoid man. He really is. 490 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: No complaints about Ryan Rico. In his Bengals debut as punter, 491 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: he set a franchise record with an eighty yarder that 492 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: traveled seventy yards in the air before going into the 493 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: end zone. Averaged more than sixty yards per punt. Very 494 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: very impressive work by the young man from BYU. 495 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: I asked him if he had one any longer eighty 496 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 4: three he had at BYU, and uh, that's rarefied air, 497 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, that's I'm not saying everybody can 498 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: punt the ball eighty three yards of Byu or anywhere, 499 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: but for him to an eighty yard here and it 500 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: was within a whisker of going out at the foot line, 501 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: it could have been an eighty yard net. I mean 502 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: it's a sixty yard net, but man, it could have 503 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: been an eighty yard net. You talk about flipping the field, man, 504 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: you know, and Uh talked to him in the post game. 505 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: He's very humble about it, you know. He said it 506 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: would have been a lot better to have that record 507 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: in a victory, obviously, but I said, you know the 508 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: way you flip the field, though, Man, it's gonna be 509 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: a weapon that, you know, in football games during the 510 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: course of the season, the Bengals gonna lean on you. You've 511 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: proven you can do it, and that's gonna be that's 512 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: gonna be tough to match every single week. 513 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Though. 514 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: But man, and I kidded with him, I said, you 515 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: know those Nikes, they got a dynamite cap in that toe, 516 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 4: and you know what did Nike do for you to 517 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: get you to explode that ball off your off your toe, 518 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 4: off your foot like that? And he goes, now here's 519 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: a standard Nike order, you know, but it's he is. Uh. 520 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: He's a big kid. I mean solid six ' four ish, 521 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: i'd say two hundred and thirty five pounds. I mean 522 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: he looks like a like a linebacker or you know, 523 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: something of that tight end, something of that ilk and 524 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: he has got some strength in that body. Man. 525 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: So the Bengals open with a loss against the team 526 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: most of us thought they would beat. Now they've got 527 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: to try to beat a team in Week two that 528 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: not many people think they're going to win, at least 529 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: down the road in Arrowhead against Kansas City. 530 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kansas City has a dogfight against the Baltimore Ravens. 531 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: I mean could have been either team's football game. Kansas 532 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: City comes out on top. That's good. You know, Baltimore 533 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: has a loss in the AFC unfortunately, now so of 534 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: the Bengals. So, I mean, you're gonna go to Kansas 535 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: City and try to give them, you know, an AFC loss. 536 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: And Joe Burrow has beaten Mahomes three times. He's three 537 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: and one. He's the only guy I think with a 538 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: winning record against Mahomes. Hopefully he can build on that. 539 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 4: It's going to be going to be a challenge. I 540 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: mean that place, I mean, Dan, we've been there, but man, 541 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: the crowd is so crazy. 542 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 8: Man. 543 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals certainly know what to expect. This is the 544 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: fourth straight year they've played on the road at Kansas City. 545 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: All right. So far, this hasn't been the most enjoyable podcast, 546 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: but I promise we are ending with a segment that 547 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: you will thoroughly enjoy. Season fifty seven is about to 548 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: begin for the Cincinnati Bengals, and it's always a treat 549 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: to visit with team president Mike Brown. Mike, we typically 550 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: go down memory lane in these visits, and I thought 551 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: it might be fun to reminisce about some of the 552 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: more amusing moments in franchise history. Let's start in nineteen 553 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: eighty eight when your then eighty year old father, I 554 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of Hall of Fame coach Paul Brown, did the 555 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: Icky shuffle in public. Were you as surprised as everybody else? 556 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 7: Not? 557 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 11: Really, I knew how supple he was. He was an 558 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 11: extremely well coordinated man, and that stayed with him until 559 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 11: very close to the end. He was athletic as a youngster. 560 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 11: He could pull ball, played baseball, played center field, he 561 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 11: played football, he played basketball. That part of it never 562 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 11: left him. As a kid. I would get involved with 563 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 11: him out in the backyard shooting baskets, and I thought, 564 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 11: you know, we got this old guy here. He won't 565 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 11: be able to do much in the heck, he could 566 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 11: shoot far better than any of us could. He was 567 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 11: very accurate, and it's hard to lay off and then 568 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 11: go out and put it through, but he could do that. 569 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 11: Was more embarrassed by. 570 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: It than. 571 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 11: I know I should have been. I didn't look at 572 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 11: it like others did. I said, oh my god, he's 573 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 11: not doing that. 574 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: He did you ever attempt the icky shuffle yourself? 575 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 11: Not even to this moment were there any plans to 576 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 11: do shit, it's. 577 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 3: Not too late. 578 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: One year later, in December of nineteen eighty nine, after 579 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: fans threw snowballs on the field at Riverfront Stadium, Sam 580 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Whitch took the microphone into his hands and said, you 581 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: don't live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati. When he 582 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: grabbed that microphone, did you instantly think. 583 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 11: Oh, oh, Sam was Sam and he had these moments 584 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 11: that would come upon him when he would act in 585 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 11: unexpected ways. I'll put it, and that was one of them. 586 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 11: I don't think it was pre thought or pre planned. 587 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 11: I think it just blurted out and it was absolutely 588 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 11: perfect because our audience responded to that. They thought it 589 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 11: was funny, they thought it was appropriate, and they stopped 590 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 11: throwing snowballs. I've seen way back during that period when 591 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 11: a league rule required coaches to ask for good behavior 592 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 11: from the stands or for the stands to quiet down 593 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 11: or whatever. And I've seen people like Chuck no and 594 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 11: top coaches, historically famous coaches, they just pretended because they 595 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 11: knew they couldn't do anything about it. They try controlling 596 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 11: a group of fans when they're up in the bit. 597 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 11: It isn't something that's very easy. But Sam, to his credit, 598 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 11: managed it, and I give him great credit. 599 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: For the moment. 600 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Here's another Samwich moment, the time he ran up the 601 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: score on a coach he didn't like, Jerry Glanville. Sam 602 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: successfully tried non side kick up forty five nothing. He 603 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal in the final thirty seconds up 604 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: fifty eight to seven. Needless to say, there was no 605 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: postgame handshake. Were you amused or horrified? 606 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 5: Oh? 607 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 11: I thought it was probably not the thing to do. 608 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 11: But that was also Sam being Sam. He could have 609 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 11: those moments again. This one I would not have been 610 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 11: so approving. 611 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 5: But. 612 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 11: It didn't mean anything. 613 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: It was maybe just. 614 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 11: Being let's say, unpolite. 615 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Any list of amusing moments in Bengals history has to 616 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: include something about Chad Johnson I've got a couple of things. First, 617 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: the two thousand and nine preseason game, after kickers Shane 618 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: Graham strained his groin, Chad drilled a game winning extra point. 619 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: Did you have any idea he could kick well? 620 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 11: He always said he was a great soccer player, and 621 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 11: that was a preseason game, if I remember right up 622 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 11: in Boston. He went out and kicked the extra point through. 623 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 11: I think he did a kickoff which went fairly well, 624 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 11: and he did it with never having practiced doing this 625 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 11: sort of thing. Belichick noticed it, and in my mind 626 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 11: the years later he picked up Chad. I thought, maybe 627 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 11: I'm wrong on this. That Chad's performance that day des 628 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 11: grabbed his attention and made the Chad register in his mind. 629 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, Chad sent bottles of pepto 630 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: bismol to the Browns defense backs before a game, implying 631 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: that they would be sick to their stomachs after facing him. 632 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Harmless fun or bulletin board material. 633 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 11: I'd put that in the rather stupid department. If you're 634 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 11: going to go toe to toe with somebody, you don't 635 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 11: need to pretend it's professional wrestling. Don't rev them up. 636 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 11: That was what I was taught, and when he did 637 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 11: things like that, I probably wished he had not. 638 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: For many fans, the greatest win in franchise history was 639 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: the Freezer bowld in nineteen eighty one AFC Championship game. 640 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: What was your reaction when my broadcast partner Dave Lapham 641 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: convinced his fellow offensive lineman to go sleeveless despite the 642 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: minus fifty nine Winshill. 643 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 11: Well, you're bringing up all these stupid actions, that question, 644 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 11: and that was cold. That was so cold that it 645 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 11: didn't feel cold. It felt like burning sensation almost. And 646 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 11: I know the Army books say that you can withstand 647 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 11: that kind of cold if you're appropriately dressed. Well, being 648 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 11: short sleeved as not being appropriately dressed. Our guys thought 649 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 11: it sent a message. Maybe it did. I think that 650 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 11: sent the message was when that door went up and 651 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 11: chargers came out on the field. It was cold. They 652 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 11: weren't used to that. They right there and then I 653 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 11: think put their tails between their legs. They didn't want 654 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 11: any part of that weather. Our guys had practiced in 655 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 11: it forrested make him practice in that, and he wouldn't 656 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 11: let them think that it was anything out of the way. 657 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 11: They were tough and coming from the West Coast when 658 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 11: you hadn't encountered any frigid weather, that would have been 659 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 11: a hard thing to. 660 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: Claim, didn't the Charger's owner generously offer to move the 661 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: game to San Diego. 662 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 11: Yeah. He came up to me and said, I have 663 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 11: a good idea. He wanted to move the game out 664 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 11: to San Diego, and I said, I don't think so. 665 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 11: Our fans would be disappointed. 666 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: They said, all right, I know. This next one probably 667 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: was not amusing at the time, but Tim Crumrai broke 668 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: his leg in four places in Super Bowl twenty three 669 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: and refused to go to the hospital, insisting on watching 670 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: the game in the locker room for as long as 671 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: he was allowed. This was before cell phones. Were you 672 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: aware that that was going on? 673 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 11: I don't think so. It might have been aware later on, 674 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 11: but not immediately, as I recall, And Timmy is a 675 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 11: tough nut, about as rough and tough as they come. 676 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 11: If anyone could have he would have played with that. 677 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 11: But it was obviously an impossibility. It was a serious injury. 678 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 11: The turf was bad. We went down there and that 679 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 11: was a grass field, but it was on a sand 680 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 11: base and overnight the ground's crew made a mistake. They 681 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 11: left the suction on, so all the water was drained 682 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 11: out of the field and it took enough water to 683 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 11: keep the sod attached to the sand. You dig up 684 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 11: these huge divots like bathroom rugs and timmy, I always 685 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 11: thought paid the price for them. That was the thought 686 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 11: that was in my mind. I didn't know about some 687 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 11: of the other aspects until later. 688 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Before drafting Anthony Munio's number three overall in nineteen eighty, 689 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 1: you sent Forrest greg to Los Angeles to work him out, 690 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: and in a pass rushing drill, Anthony slammed him so 691 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: hard that he knocked Forrest to his backside. Was that 692 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: the final confirmation you needed to know that Anthony Munoz 693 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: was healthy and your guy. 694 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 11: That was for Forrest the final cont For some of 695 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 11: the rest of us, it probably came along at different points. 696 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 11: I remember at the Rose Bowl game, I was with 697 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 11: my dad and brother and we were sitting watching it 698 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 11: on TV. Anthony played and he just dominated the Ohio 699 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 11: State guy in front of it. That's when I became convinced. 700 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 11: But the thing with Anthony was that not everyone thought 701 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 11: he was going to heal up and be able to 702 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 11: handle our doctor George Balou said he would, and George 703 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 11: was right, and of course Anthony had a Hall of 704 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 11: Fame career. 705 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Forrest Gregg wanted players to wear suits on road trips, 706 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: so Harvard educated punter Pat mcinally showed up in a 707 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: limo wearing a tuxedo complete with top hat and cane. 708 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember seeing that? 709 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 11: I fortunately do not, and I wouldn't have cared if 710 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 11: I had. Pat was a live wiren he meant to 711 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 11: be funny and have fun. Forrest would have laughed. I think, 712 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 11: if I remember right, he did. He wouldn't have taken 713 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 11: exception to it at all. It was just any funny 714 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 11: moment for the guys. 715 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: All right. 716 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Final one, This one is more touching than amusing. You 717 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: gave Adam Jones a chance to revive his career. 718 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: He had eight. 719 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: Fine seasons with Cincinnati, and he was so appreciative of 720 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: your support that he commissioned an artist to do a 721 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: sketch of you and your father watching practice together. What 722 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: was your reaction when you receive that gift. 723 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 11: I like Adam Jones. I know he had these incidents 724 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 11: off and on, but Adam Jones is quite bright. He's smart, 725 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 11: he's quick minded. He didn't come up the easy way, 726 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 11: and some of the discipline. 727 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: That you lose that you learn with the. 728 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 11: Normal average upbringing. He didn't come across the so there 729 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 11: be times when he would flare out instantly and suffer 730 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 11: the consequences. But if you knew him as a person, 731 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 11: you would admire him because he was fun to talk to, 732 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 11: quick a mind, and I'll never forget how he was 733 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 11: when his little daughter was a premie and it was 734 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 11: predicted that the odds were against her. We were down 735 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 11: at training camp in Georgetown. After practice. He'd get in 736 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 11: his car every night and drive up the Cincinnati to 737 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 11: tap on the window and look at her in the 738 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 11: nursery at the hospital. And the little girl today is 739 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 11: grown and is a wonderful young lady. So when I 740 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 11: think of Adam Jones, I think of things like that, 741 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 11: not some of these other problems that have I've cropped up. 742 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: Mike, I always enjoy our visits. 743 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time and best of 744 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: luck this year. 745 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 11: Thanks very much. 746 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of The 747 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast, brought to you by pay Core. 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