WEBVTT - The Courage of Two Transitions 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:44.040 We're saying, if you watch your coffee time, the baby 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.440 you know the name Flame, my bro also known as 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.040 my Roe Flame, come in with last and come in 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:50.320 with Jim Love Loundes. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:51.479 Baby, you better catch. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.240 It when you can drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.920 Shouting now comics, just paying homage. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.680 What's up tips? Yeah you know she. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.680 Raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a second year. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.200 We're gonna last to come or and kicking and at 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:05.880 the again. We leave it with just a list his 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.680 firits you want to revisit, so your first second listen 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:09.280 you folks. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.240 So it's slipt, oh. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.400 Folks that we take it. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.440 He don't do what you do? 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.200 No this, do what you do? Can't do what I do? 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:31.200 No this? 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.400 Hey, hey, hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.200 to this week's very special edition of Laugh Aliaring. This 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.600 is a bonus for you guys. This will be a 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.160 very intriguing show because what we do on this show 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.280 is we learn and we teach to understand each other. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.160 I'm here with my beautiful call host Bobby Clifford, who 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.800 happens to be in the room with we. We shard 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.720 a hotel row and we sleep in the same being 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:03.720 off right. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:04.520 Oh my god. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.720 But we have a very special guest and I'm telling 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.760 you this story is so powerful and so King came 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.600 into a coffee time live a couple of days and 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.120 maybe about a week ago when I was on YouTube 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.079 because I do coffee time in the mornings, and just 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.320 hit us with a story that we think needs to 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.800 be shared with the world. We think people need to 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.840 hear this story because we want people to understand this, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.280 that and the other thing, so many things that people miss. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.119 So King is here to share his story with us. King, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.240 we want you to introduce ourselves to our First of all, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:40.760 let's give a round boss with King. Thank you, Ki, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.880 thank you for coming on with us just to share 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.560 your story because it's powerful and I want people to understand, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.519 especially the youth, of what you went through. So tell 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.720 us about who you are, where you're from, everything, everything 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.080 you aren't here for us. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.040 O King. I'm from Apolois's, Louisiana, So I'm a country boy, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.720 but I SI in Forward, Texas. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:02.200 Out of the MW. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.679 I'm a hard record. I'm a mother. I'm not a mother, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.880 but I'm a son of a mother with two great kids. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.200 Mama raised two amazing children. Mother Breda is more successful 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.280 because you know, he stayed more on track, and that's 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.120 my that was my goal to make sure he stayed 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.040 on track. So I did it that part. I'm just me. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.600 I'm a loving, fun person who've been through a lot. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.040 I'm a trouna baby black sheep. I held a lot 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.480 of things in because I had a supportive family, but 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:36.520 I helped everything get out of fear and they I 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.040 identify as a bisexual male starting at ten grade when 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.040 I really came forward to knowing who I was as 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.720 a million in this world. But I had a dysphobia 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:50.160 issue when I was about six or seven because I 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.120 was molested not only once, not twice, but three times, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.440 but three different people, my men and women. So it 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.200 kind of made me confused. So that's what everything started there. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.280 So you you when you when you were molested, did 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.800 you think you believe that it puts you to a 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.200 place where you felt like you needed to transition into 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.840 becoming a tras woman. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.360 Yes, ma'am. It started making me feel very uncomfortable myself. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.400 You know, it made me felt confused. I ain't know 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.159 what to do. Why would these people put their demons 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.719 on me. I'm a child. It really destroyed me because 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.520 what child deserved that. None of us deserved that as 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.720 an adult, because it happened in olhood too, But as 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.280 a child, that's really hard for you to deal with 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.279 that and thinking that you're done with one devil, another 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.480 devil come, that they can do with that devil. Another 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.960 devil com And that's hardened to what you want to 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.160 tell your family. But then you sacrifice that putting them 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.400 in trouble because they will kill somebody behind you. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.760 You were a kid, you know. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.240 So let me ask you. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.240 Let me ask you this question. King, So you say 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.480 you're molested about male and a female, do you feel 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.960 like either having been molested by two different sexiests that 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.200 you lean towards one more than the other because of 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.480 the molestation. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.680 At times. I did at times, you know, through my 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.560 teenage children, I would lean more towards women because a 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.560 lot of women. Of course, like you said, I'm attracting 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.440 young men, so a lot of women always was attracted me. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.520 So I would love women. So that that just came. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.960 Like when you said the other that wine come out 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.480 the apple, that's just hey, that's what it is. So 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.240 for me, I love women. You know, I know what 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.240 a woman's are about. So I knew from jump I 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.760 would never stop liking women. But I knew when I 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.680 was finally came in to my truth. The community that 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.520 liked bisex, they down bisexual boys but praise boys to 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.760 say they're fully straight because they go all back home 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.680 to their wife or you know, their girlfriend. That was 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.920 weird to me. So I already had deal with some 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.080 differences and knew it was gonna have some struggles. So 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.960 it was always or I ain't gonna compete against that woman. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.840 But literally, you know, I like my men with for 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.520 jiannas anyway, do. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.039 You feel like you were pressure to become trends? Do 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.440 you feel like other people of other forces pressured you 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.280 or do you did you feel that internally? 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:19.080 No, because I knew deep inside I had an issue 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.440 that there's something I had to deal with of me 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.440 being me want to be trends. You know, I put 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.440 it behind my head in the box. And when I became, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.080 I wasn't a club at fifteen, sixteen years old, I 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.320 was in a gay club. I was a kid. Nobody knew. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.280 I had these ground adults around me and nobody knew 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.880 as a job. My Mama trust me so much because 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.000 I was working at fourteen my day. They told me 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.760 that real men get jobs today age he was working 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.600 at fourteen. So I wired there and got me a job. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.000 And through the work and I met a lot of adults. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:59.480 I had started condulging them sex a lot. So I 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:05.280 started lead, you know. Six became my outlook of my trauma. Yeah, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.920 and I was just sleeping with women, but I would 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.560 tell women the truth that I was also sleeping with men, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.040 and what kind of men I was sleeping with. And 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:18.280 as I got older, I started seeing more men, you know, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.640 because then more I became my children. I would feel 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.120 inside these spaces, you know, going to the gay club 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.760 and you know, meeting different guys at store. You know 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.080 how it go. So I started, you know, even when 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:29.560 I didn't want to mess with me, and I started 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.400 still messing with them still because I was still dealing 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.120 with that trauma or what I was dealing with as 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:34.600 a child. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.200 So going do you think going to the gate clubs 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.840 and seeing because what you going through the drag shows 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.280 back then, and seeing the treasures. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.120 Yes, ma'am. When I can tell you my very like 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.880 So I was sixteen at club eving bowlegs. Like I 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.840 told you one when I was outside to see so 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.520 much was my gay mother. My mama knew bowle as. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.280 For my mama, thing was, I need you to find 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.880 some kind of friends that can teach you about their 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.360 lifestyle because my mother she was always afraid because my 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.600 grandma's friend got killed in Louisiana by some men because 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.840 he was gay. So Ronald was already scared already when 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.240 everything he had hit. So when I became a transforman 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.600 made her ten times scared. So when I was in 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:23.000 the club at sixteen, Roquel Lloyd was the very first 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.040 trans woman I ever seen, so beautiful, and I was like, wow, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.000 this is really a thing. I thought Roquel was one 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:31.960 hundred percent born woman, believe it or not. Because I'm 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.440 a kid, so I already don't know. But that everybody 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.559 was like, man, she's a beautiful trans woman. So that 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.400 she used to drop down and oh but her las, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.839 I like you do that, like you know some on 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.520 my mind this started going like, okay, so this is 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.640 the thing. I can really beat this type of person. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.600 So when I became a trans woman, I was imaging 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.600 I wanted to be the transistor like miss Roquel Lloyd, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.439 because she had carry rested up with class and dignity 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.199 and grace the respect that she got from everybody in 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.200 the community. So I was like, Wow, I can really 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.360 be this person. But I didn't transition, and I still 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.880 put it behind my mind. I'm like, Nah, it ain't 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.480 gonna work. It ain't gonna work. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:10.800 And then I. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.440 Became a transfoman at the age of like twenty one 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.640 twenty two, back in two thousand and sevens when I 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.800 started thinking about doing it in two thousand and eight 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.400 is when I really say, Okay, this is what I'm 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.520 gonna do. And that was kind of like one of 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.359 the worst decisions in my life. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.160 I love that you said that you saw somebody else 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.560 and it made it made you want to do that 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.080 because this is what I think they're doing to the youth, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.480 because you see it and you think that it is 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.920 what you're supposed to do, and you have to internally 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.839 feel it, and you did have a great news. Rock 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.480 Hill Lord is a fantastic female impersonator. She is one 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.679 of the baddest in the business, that the best they 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.320 are in the business. So I can understand even why 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.760 that affected you that way because when I was being 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.040 rock Heel pretty much of the same age, and we 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.360 were doing the same time, and I was an admirer 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.559 of Rockyl Lord, she wasn't the one that may be 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.040 trans We were already doing what we did at the time, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.679 So I can understand how you were easily influenced by that. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.240 So at twenty one, when you decided to do it, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.959 was it your decision or were you That's why I 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.400 want to know where you pressed it too. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.840 It was by then it was mine because I seen 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:18.120 ra Killer sixteen, I already was you know, Bo adopted me, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.960 so I was around all the other ladies in the pageants, 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.080 like the Jason Bonds and you know, all the top 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.760 not So yeah, by then I still in transition. So 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.800 I waited until I was praying about it, and I 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.760 prayed about it, and then one day I said, Okay, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.959 this is it. So I did it because I wanted to, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.400 because by then I thought it was an age and 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.240 I thought in my mind I had some kind of experience, right, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.280 But that wasn't the experience I thought. I really I 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.840 thought I needed I needed more experience. I need education, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.040 is what I needed. You know by my purity who 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.720 were really was into this and been living it way 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.960 before me, to tell me the truth about the hard times, 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.959 the good times and it maybe some real bad times 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.839 you're not ready for, but this is realistically what may 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.920 happen if you take this route and made shorts with 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.400 the rock you want to take. If I would have 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.520 had peers telling me Dad that I would never have 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.000 went in transition. Honestly, I would have had maybe you know, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.480 saying just sat down with my family and rediscussed the 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.839 situation a little bit better. But like I told you, 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.719 I transitioned out the blue my mama that though my 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.080 dad didn't know, nobody knew. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.240 So let me ask you, ken hold On by Man, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.160 I know you got a question. But when you transitioned, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.640 did you start taking female horn moms? Did you take? 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.599 I had a uh since one woman who I was 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.760 confident on it. She was my uh my manager at 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.320 the time at Low's. So I went to her and 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.240 told was gone on. So she helped me research what 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.680 I had needed. So she had told me what was 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:54.720 it seemed like y'all take fornere on vitamins, soins I 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.240 started taking a to stuss round blocker. She said, you 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.600 need to sutch wround blocker. And then she started helping 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.280 me look for a doctor. So because she was like, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.440 you need to go to a doctor to get blood record, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.160 you know, and stuff to the list. Let us to this. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.800 So she was trying to help me the best way 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.600 she could and be professional, you know, and do her 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.640 job at the same time. So she had helped me 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.920 get them them medicines. After that, I met a trans 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.200 girl who I knew who transitioned honestly, but a little 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.160 before me. At her younger ages. She was on black 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.600 mircat homeowns. So I stayed on black micro homeawns for 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.720 three years. And when I tell you, that messed with 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.880 my inside so bad. When I used to pee, I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:41.600 started peeing blood. I couldn't. When I had intercourse of people, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.400 when I was trying to, you know, come, I couldn't 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.040 come no more. Yeah, stopped me from So I got 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.560 scared and I stopped taking black market hormos. And my 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.160 brother said, let's go to the doctor and let's get 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.960 you adopted. And I found a doctor and for work 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.680 that took me off of everything. And she was an 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.880 LGBT cute doctor and she said, you're not gonna like 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.440 me if you want them trans girls who want to 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.960 shop today, Because she told me that damaged your body, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.440 I'm gonna only give you natural her mown. So she 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.800 made me do the cream, and that's how I started 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.000 that journey and my home other. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.880 I love the fact that you said a biological woman. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.160 You said sis, so to our listeners that are laughing 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.680 if you don't understand what assists me. SIS is the 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.360 term for biological women. Biological women have always been the 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.840 allies for the LGBT community. And I love that you 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.559 said a biological woman took you and helped you research 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.160 to find to help you who you are, because they 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.680 have always been in our corner. And I appreciate that. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 And I appreciate that woman for teaching you and taking 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.960 you to a female doctor. Bobby got a question to 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.600 get in here, buddy, and so. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.960 I thought it was great that it seems like you've 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.840 got family support throughout this, which that was one of 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.079 my big things. I was really nervous for you, thinking 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.880 that maybe you were doing on your own the black 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.160 market hormones. May my insides flipped because you don't know 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.240 the dosage you're getting. Did you have any permanent damage 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.800 from doing that or did everything sort of resolve itself. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:13.440 On you with the with the doctor Gabriel, Well, I 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.680 deal with stuff now. I've had two heart attacks in 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.120 twenty twenty. I have an in large heart. I had 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.120 a light struck from the brain last year, and my 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.000 psychologist I still up to a psychiatrist therapist. I'm like, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.160 I'm still doing the work. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.840 Yeah, I'm still like some journey honeys for everybody. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.280 I recovery, you know, suicide recovery. I tried to cut 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.880 my hands and you know I try to take pills 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.520 when I was a transformer to kill myself. So I 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.280 told I finally opened this to my mom and my 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.480 mental health issues, and I stay committed in my therapy. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.800 I still commended to my psyched doctor, and she told 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.040 me the last week she said, you know, I don't 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.960 be honest with you them home all. They may ain't 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.120 catch it with you then, but they can't catch it 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.320 with you now. It's to say logically that people don't 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.960 understand that or nor accept that. I'll believe that. You 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.880 know that harm your body In the long run. Hormo 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.880 therapy is not good. You know, that's just what it is. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.000 Especially when, like Barby said, when it's black market and 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.880 hear me when I tell you, sweetheart, we all have 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.960 taken black market privery. When I was young, we too 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.600 used to take a novige that we got from a 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.880 doctor and a hormone shot. It grew you breath in 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.040 two weeks. It cleared your skied up, it shranked your penis, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.720 it did it just did just what you said. It 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.000 stopped you for your ejaculation, so you would get like 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.520 a drop if you got the drop, and you were 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.880 if you were come in a second. So I understand 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.520 all of that. Let me ask you this question, when 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.160 you finally transition, did you ever find any joy or 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:49.840 any happiness? And that. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.840 Yes, at the beginning of flame. You know me and 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.960 my big brother was here the other day. I'm from 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.840 my daddy song was talking about that. He was looking 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.960 at pictures and he would say, man, even so beautiful 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.400 on that picture. The reason why I say, for me 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.280 I started, I enjoyed my transition to the beginning was 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:14.520 because I had to support. I had a great gay 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.120 family on this end who supported me. I had a 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.760 legend of community who talks about HIV bolets didn't play. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.880 You know, hey, don't mess with him because hey, you 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:23.760 do too much, you know. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:24.680 You know. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.000 So I was around well educated people and the lifestyle 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.760 and my family. I have an amazing family, my even 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:32.920 my stepdad family. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:33.360 Man. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.920 I always sometimes I can give the love and support 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.600 that I have just by them accepting me as a 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.360 person to somebody else in the community, because especially our 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.680 skin content culture, because they don't really have that. That 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.520 hurt my heart to see that. A lot of black 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.320 people say, oh, my family don't love me. I never 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.040 experienced that flame. I never had an experience. You're like, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.120 you know, so what made me had a bad experience? 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.280 When I told you, I felt deep humanized as a person. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.520 And that was when I was working at those And 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.159 then we had a bathroom situation. And then the thing was, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.840 I was supposed to be able to go to the 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.440 bathroom once I transitioned, so I was doing everything professionally, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.560 so I was a manager at the time. So I 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.159 went and I said, well, what I have to do 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.000 to go to the women's bathroom? Because I got a 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.879 situation with a man. He told me I was a 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.680 dis race to my community, my culture, which is black people, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.160 and I should burn. I'm gonna burn in hell because 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.280 of who I because I'm at a family store and 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.560 they allow me to transition because I was ready at 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.520 the store a year and a half. So I transitioned 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:46.560 while working. I want to or it was a customer. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.880 So I went to the the supervisor. She said, well, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.879 you have to get breast and you have to have 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.280 your name change. So I hurry up and got my 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.120 name changed and I wait and boughy me some breasts. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.840 A year later so that I came to the big 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.879 old forty four WT. So now all like, okay, I 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:10.000 go to the bathroom. That didn't happen. I used to 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.320 have to go to the bathroom outside at another at 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.240 another company called some Mad Rental. If they at that 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.879 spot was busy, I had to walk across the street 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.840 to on the border and go to the bathroom. So 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.199 the people in the at the job who did supported me, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.879 they was getting heat from the people who was working 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.160 because they didn't they didn't understand like how one day 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.639 I was accepted and the next day I was not 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.399 accepted at all. Like that was weird for me and 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.680 of some of the people, and it made me feel 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:44.199 like I was just dehumanized, like what person like, especially 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:45.920 though I already been through as a kid and all 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.800 the stuff I've been through, Why do I have to 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.560 like go outside to the bathroom. Why do I have 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.879 to go to another building? Because I understand, trust me, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:19:00.000 my mamad woman. I know, I know that women are comfortable. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:00.760 I get it. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.800 But I still wanted to feel like a human and 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.840 when that was taken away from me, it made me 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.480 really mentally break down and I was like, what's next, God, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:13.240 what's next? 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:18.440 Yeah? No, I think that that was terrible. First of all, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.359 that the customers would come in and be allowed to 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.200 even say stuff like that, But you have the control 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.119 over customers. I do want to give accommendation to the 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.000 Low's employees that did accept you, because not every job 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.640 will let you start one way and then transition wilde. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.920 So that is a great thing that they did that. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.400 So hats off to that company for that. It's sad 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:37.879 that you had to go through that, but you know, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.000 there are ignorant people in the world and what comes 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.480 with being the transfers sometimes, especially in the Deep South 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.600 where you were in Mississippi or was it Louisiana. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.680 All this happened in Texas. I'm not here in Texas. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.080 Or in Texas. Yeah, when you and you're still in 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.680 the South, which is still the Bible Bell. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:53.920 Yeah. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.160 A lot of people have their own philosophies and their 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.680 ideologies and their religion, and religion is something that it's 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.600 really need to be dealt with when it comes down 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.320 to the LGBT community in a different way, it is 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.400 coming around. I'm glad you survived that. Thank you for 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.679 being a strong survivor to get through that, because a 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.760 lot of people would have been broken by that. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.199 Oh, I tell you, hours off broken. I didn't go 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.159 to work, you know, I want they want up, I 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.760 want up. Look my job which was a setup because 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.480 of how everything couse. My store manager, he really got 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.720 tired of dealing with it. So a SITI what I 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.080