Speaker 1: What's your best current health and fitness advice?
Speaker 2: Consistency is really I mean there's a lot of them,
Speaker 2: but consistency is everything, man, because everybody else is just
Speaker 2: surviving doing the basics. But anybody else was training on
Speaker 2: a regular basis, they get to have a much more
Speaker 2: interesting life. They like my wife and I went to
Speaker 2: Italy and we got on a bike tour for four
Speaker 2: and a half hours.
Speaker 1: So she's into it too, not.
Speaker 2: As much as me.
Speaker 1: Now I would have loved it. If you're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: she's morbidly obese. She's just happy as can be, just
Speaker 1: happy as can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's huge.
Speaker 1: Pasha Tosh Show, Tosh Show Show, Welcome to Tosh Show.
Speaker 1: We're back. Did you miss us? Eddie? How are you
Speaker 1: doing good?
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four sucks already? What happened? I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about gambling for a second. Okay, here
Speaker 1: are people say like, oh, do you have a gambling problem?
Speaker 1: You know who doesn't have a gambling problem? People that win,
Speaker 1: you lose, you lose a bunch, ye, then you get
Speaker 1: then you have the problem. But it's just that doesn't
Speaker 1: seem fair. It seems like if you win a ton
Speaker 1: and you're gambling constantly, that's the problem. Whether you win
Speaker 1: or lose shouldn't affect it. But the reality is, no
Speaker 1: one's ever in a gambling anonymous meeting. I just win
Speaker 1: too much. I gotta find a way to you know,
Speaker 1: stop this. It's affecting my life, all this winning. Anyway.
Speaker 1: People get annoyed with bad beats. But this is what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I don't have a gambling problem. I
Speaker 1: should know because I've I'm around for almost all my bets,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I just I call in bets. I have
Speaker 1: people play them for me. But whatever. So here's the
Speaker 1: bet that I made, because basically over three days is
Speaker 1: a five leg parlay. Okay, and I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the amount. It's not staggering. One hundred dollars. That's an
Speaker 1: acceptable bet, right. Okay, Here's what I bet, Missouri Tigers
Speaker 1: barely in the SEC to beat the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 1: You get plus one point fifty on that. I say
Speaker 1: Missouri is gonna do it. Heck of a year. I'm
Speaker 1: like the buck guys are gonna fall. Easy money. My
Speaker 1: next bet was the Georgia Bulldogs versus the depleted Florida
Speaker 1: State Seminoles, who got hosed. But let's be honest, there's
Speaker 1: no way a third string quarterback I was gonna do
Speaker 1: any damage in the playoffs, but whatever, I took the
Speaker 1: over on that. The line was forty five. I think
Speaker 1: Georgia put up one hundred and seventy, so that was easy. Next,
Speaker 1: bet Oregon Ducks by sixteen and a half over Liberty.
Speaker 1: Those Christians. I was like, they're undefeated, but they're Christians
Speaker 1: and they've got no place in football. Oregon Ducks hammer them.
Speaker 1: I got that, okay. Then this game was a bit
Speaker 1: of a sweat. The Alabama Michigan game. Jim Harball versus
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Oh who do you hate more? What did
Speaker 1: I bet? I bet in Michigan. I was like, I
Speaker 1: hope Michigan can cover one and a half and I
Speaker 1: got a little lucky in overtime and they did. I
Speaker 1: got an issue with Harball. I'll tell you about it
Speaker 1: some other time. Let me tell you now. He once
Speaker 1: said that any of his players, if they were gonna
Speaker 1: have their girlfriends get an abortion, that he would rather
Speaker 1: them just give them the child, and he would raise
Speaker 1: it and that was insane to me. Like, I just
Speaker 1: I literally pray at night that thousands of student athletes
Speaker 1: get their girlfriend pregnant and give their kids to the
Speaker 1: hardball hardballs and they have to raise them all and
Speaker 1: then I hope they grow up to be Buckeyes. Now
Speaker 1: my last leg, Oh man, what is it? It's Washington versus Texas.
Speaker 1: Texas is favored by four. I bet Texas. Ah. The
Speaker 1: whole time, I was furious. I see Matthew McConaughey on
Speaker 1: the sideline, and I'm just I'm just furious, Like I
Speaker 1: fucking bet the wrong team. You could tell in the
Speaker 1: first few minutes like, oh, this isn't gonna work. Put
Speaker 1: that Manning kid in anyway. So I lost because of
Speaker 1: that last bet. Now, technically, when you have like a
Speaker 1: big parlay and it's starting to come in, uh, and
Speaker 1: you're on the last, the last bet, you should go
Speaker 1: bet the other team, uh, the opposite of your bet
Speaker 1: to cover your losses if you do lose. But whatever,
Speaker 1: I didn't do that because I only wanted to win
Speaker 1: the full amount, which was three thousand, three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty two dollars and five cents. And and the first
Speaker 1: thing you're supposed to do to make sure you don't
Speaker 1: have a gambling problem. You're not supposed to chase your losses.
Speaker 1: So what do you think I did? Do you think
Speaker 1: I bet another one hundred dollars on something else? No,
Speaker 1: that's that's not that. I chase the winnings that I lost.
Speaker 1: I put three thousand dollars down on Washington plus covering
Speaker 1: the over in the National Championship Game. How do you
Speaker 1: like them? Huh? Yeah, I may, I may have a problem. Whatever,
Speaker 1: Who cares, none of your business? What I gamble while
Speaker 1: I'm telling you so, then I guess that makes it
Speaker 1: your business. How's Aaron Rodgers doing?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: What's he up to? All right? Oh man, you know
Speaker 1: what I would.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're always worried about these these they take. We talk
Speaker 1: about Hollywood just is infested with pedophiles. Do you guys
Speaker 1: know any pedophiles? No? No, me neither. I guess That's
Speaker 1: why I always think it's so funny when people say it, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're you're in that Hollywood world. What do you talk?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Eddie here got two kids, a wife,
Speaker 1: John back There's got two kids, a third on the way.
Speaker 1: Everybody I know is normal. I think the problem is people.
Speaker 1: You know, you live in a big city. You find
Speaker 1: a handful of people that are normal, and you hang
Speaker 1: out with them, and if you don't hang out with them,
Speaker 1: you're the pedophile. I guess I don't know where these
Speaker 1: pedophile groups are hanging out. Back to you, what you're
Speaker 1: going to be funny if this list comes out and
Speaker 1: I'm on it, Oh, that would be awesome? Like what?
Speaker 1: That's why I never take photos with fans after shows.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one of you is a fucking
Speaker 1: pile of shit. I don't want to meet you or
Speaker 1: talk to you anyway. Any New Year's resolutions, Daniel, I
Speaker 1: do have resolutions. I don't like to discuss them. They're
Speaker 1: mainly financial. You know, be a richer husband, be a
Speaker 1: richer father, be a richer podcast, stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 1: the important stuff. No, I certainly don't care about my body.
Speaker 1: That'll never be a resolution. Oh this is the year.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people care about that stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's already the second week of January, so what's
Speaker 1: done is done. You'll like today's guest, though he's responsible
Speaker 1: for getting millions of Doe White dudes who are too
Speaker 1: lazy to go to a gym ripped enjoy. Pasha, my
Speaker 1: guest today, created the most popular home workout program of
Speaker 1: all time. He's a celebrity trainer to countless stars, and
Speaker 1: yet I still refuse to let him help me. Tony,
Speaker 1: thank you for being here.
Speaker 2: Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1: Man. All right, first question I ask all my guests, Okay, Tony,
Speaker 1: do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: God damn it.
Speaker 2: Well only because I've had very close friends experience them
Speaker 2: in their homes. But you ashtray, automatchel, slid off, came
Speaker 2: down and shattered in a billion pieces.
Speaker 1: We live in California. Stuff falls constantly.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, maybe my friends are full of shit.
Speaker 2: I have to get new.
Speaker 1: But has anything ever happened to you or like this
Speaker 1: is obviously a ghost?
Speaker 2: No? See, Just so.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never had a trainer in my life.
Speaker 1: I've never worked. I don't work out well.
Speaker 2: And your physical I'm very physical. Yeah, so you get
Speaker 2: it a different way, right.
Speaker 1: I exercised, but I've never I never know what I
Speaker 1: would do. I have a row machine. Great, I do
Speaker 1: that at night while watching like a sport. Aim. That's Stevyard,
Speaker 1: so I can plow through it. I do intervals and
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: So you figured all that on your own. You didn't
Speaker 2: need a guy like me or one of my programs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's here's my question to you. I've never
Speaker 1: worked out. I'm forty eight years old. I think, could
Speaker 1: my body get uh in six months? Could I get
Speaker 1: just three months?
Speaker 2: Four months?
Speaker 1: Could I get ripped as shit?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Do I need to do steroids?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not? But should I absolutely not?
Speaker 1: Could I look like Chris Hemsworth?
Speaker 2: That would take longer?
Speaker 1: How long?
Speaker 2: About nine nine to nine months to a year? And
Speaker 2: I could literally, but you'd be miserable. You'd be so
Speaker 2: miser sure, because it's not in your DNA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but right, I would leave my wife and I
Speaker 1: was just going a tear.
Speaker 2: You'd be something, it would you'd go viral.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a thing. But think that's funny when actors
Speaker 1: do this, when they like for a role, they get jacked,
Speaker 1: and then when they go back to not being jack,
Speaker 1: their bodies something looks off. It's like, oh, you look
Speaker 1: your body, don't.
Speaker 2: You don't want this world. You don't want to be
Speaker 2: really fitting that out of fit because a lot of
Speaker 2: it is psychological and mental too, because you know you're
Speaker 2: doing you're doing all this stuff. You've got this discipline,
Speaker 2: you've got this plan. You know, you've got a trainer
Speaker 2: or whatever method you're trying to get there, and then
Speaker 2: it goes away, and then you're not the same person
Speaker 2: that you were. Your personality changes as you go through
Speaker 2: those massive changes, you know. So I've been fairly fit
Speaker 2: for almost forty years, so you know, like this morning
Speaker 2: I worked out. I did twenty four sets of just
Speaker 2: pull up some push ups with some buddies of mine,
Speaker 2: and twenty four sets of pull ups and push ups,
Speaker 2: you know, so twelve and twelve total. How many pull
Speaker 2: ups did you do? The pull ups today were thirteen
Speaker 2: pull ups and twenty three push ups. Every single time.
Speaker 2: The routine's called the Challenge out of one of my workouts.
Speaker 2: It's easy because it's just all body weight and gravity
Speaker 2: and you just go as hard as you can.
Speaker 1: I used to do pull ups. I used to do
Speaker 1: pull ups, but then I don't like that it would
Speaker 1: put calluses on my fingers.
Speaker 2: Well that's weird, but okay, what do you mean weird?
Speaker 2: That's who cares?
Speaker 1: You don't care when people shake my hand. I like
Speaker 1: them to know that I've.
Speaker 2: Never worked my hand. How does that feel? All right?
Speaker 1: Right? How loose I go? That's weird.
Speaker 2: My callouses weren't weird for you, were they?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I mean they weren't weird. But but I feel like
Speaker 1: that you maybe you've just built up some tolerance. Have
Speaker 1: you shave your arms?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Okay, I do. I shave everything?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why do you do it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I cleanliness, yeah, maybe cool?
Speaker 2: It looks better.
Speaker 1: I mean I leave I have chest hair, but I
Speaker 1: still but I do. I shave down the arm, not
Speaker 1: shave the armpits clippers with no guard, so it basically
Speaker 1: goes away. But it's yeah, and then I.
Speaker 2: Leave the armpits alone. For the most part, I don't
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it when your arms are down and
Speaker 1: you see a tough hair.
Speaker 2: Now I don't think I don't have tofts Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you actually enjoy working out most of the time?
Speaker 1: Now? Okay?
Speaker 2: But I like the way it makes me feel. I
Speaker 2: like it allows me to ski hard and climb well
Speaker 2: and ski hard snows snow skiing.
Speaker 1: I love skiing. I do too. When you're flying down
Speaker 1: a mountain going so fast. I think it's so hysterical
Speaker 1: because like, if something were to go wrong and my
Speaker 1: body is starting to like roll, it's just I just
Speaker 1: know that it would just be disaster. Guess what. I
Speaker 1: still do it every year. I still fly out of
Speaker 1: control speeds through through woods through I'm just in the
Speaker 1: trees and I'm like, a few years ago, I hit
Speaker 1: a tree so hard, snapped it. It was probably only
Speaker 1: about this big, but snapped it. It was just brutal,
Speaker 1: and I'm just laying on the ground screaming, going and
Speaker 1: then but eventually you have to just get up and
Speaker 1: go down there, get somebody to drag it down. No,
Speaker 1: I was deep in the woods. Nobody was anywhere near us.
Speaker 1: And this was this past season.
Speaker 2: Somebody hit me so hard it dislocated the ligaments in
Speaker 2: my collar bone. Just skiing or punching skin. He just
Speaker 2: didn't he blindside of me, She didn't see me, and
Speaker 2: I went down. That was painful. Where do you go skiing?
Speaker 2: Where do you like to go? I live in Tahoe
Speaker 2: Which mountain? I mean, I don't want to tell people
Speaker 2: my home out in Alpine Mine's Jackson Holla, Wyoming.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it there great.
Speaker 1: Well, Alpine got read. You know, it's part of Palisades,
Speaker 1: which got also got which was squad. But that's a
Speaker 1: derogatory term for a Native American girl, and so and
Speaker 1: then the locals there they're just like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: always call it squad And I'm like, well, why why
Speaker 1: not just say oh, I didn't know that?
Speaker 2: And Okay, if now I'm learning something and I can change, sure.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem calling it pal I like.
Speaker 2: That's a great name.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah, but you have to turn on squad drive,
Speaker 1: do you really? I think so? Well, they have a
Speaker 1: lot of streets to change.
Speaker 4: There's a lot there's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Where are you originally from?
Speaker 2: Born in Rhode Island, but grew up in Connecticut East Coast?
Speaker 1: How's growing up in Connecticut?
Speaker 2: Okay? Where are you from?
Speaker 1: I mean I lived everywhere, but I Florida is kind
Speaker 1: of where I moved from. We lived everywhere too.
Speaker 2: My father was in the army and moved.
Speaker 1: My dad would just get fired.
Speaker 2: That was mine too, a little bit.
Speaker 1: Just find a new job.
Speaker 2: And I like that too.
Speaker 1: No, he said he was getting transferred, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that that was actually true.
Speaker 2: I didn't know as a kid either, that's funny. Yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: We moved six times before fifth grade.
Speaker 1: Thirteen times before I was twelve. Damn wow, and countries,
Speaker 1: like four or five different countries.
Speaker 2: Maybe your dad was a criminal or something.
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He worked for the church. It okay,
Speaker 1: well for a long time he worked for the church.
Speaker 1: Then he got into and worked at McDonald Douglas, I believe. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then he worked for NASA, but human resources. He
Speaker 1: wasn't a rocket scientist.
Speaker 2: And my dad was a was a plastics engineer, just
Speaker 2: like the graduate.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: He worked for Owens Corning, Fiberglass and companies like that.
Speaker 1: Were you were you physically gifted.
Speaker 2: As a child, not even close?
Speaker 1: No at all. Could you fight? No? Did you ever
Speaker 1: get in a fight?
Speaker 2: I got lots of fights.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Lots of people beat me up for real? Yeah? Was
Speaker 2: that just the neighborhood I had at time? It was
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. It was the kids in the neighborhood. I
Speaker 2: had a speech impediment which made life difficult.
Speaker 1: What was the speech impediment? May I ask?
Speaker 2: Something called cluttering? Just talking really fast in the world's words,
Speaker 2: all piling up on top of each other and then
Speaker 2: the stammering would come. So they would make you know, kids,
Speaker 2: Oh look there's a flaw. Let's make fun of him
Speaker 2: and push him around.
Speaker 1: I think I got into comedy because of my hatred
Speaker 1: of bullies.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I probably got fit because of it.
Speaker 1: Did you win any of the fights?
Speaker 2: No? No, I did not, not really. I was about
Speaker 2: to get beat up once and I got really loud
Speaker 2: and you know, took on a posture and the kid
Speaker 2: back down.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was like this kid, Nick Vancho, wherever you are, buddy.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about TJ. Miller. No is it
Speaker 1: TJ Miller a real person that's a comic, all right?
Speaker 1: Not that guy. This guy TJ. In Saint Louis, Missouri.
Speaker 1: He was new, moved in and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's like sort of fighting everybody in the neighborhood. He
Speaker 1: was like it was this was sixth grade. I went
Speaker 1: to Sparing Middle School and it was like a guy
Speaker 1: that like read the book one oh one on going
Speaker 1: to prison, like you just fight everybody day one Anyway,
Speaker 1: he came up to me in the CAF tire and
Speaker 1: just punched me in the mouth, and I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: And this girl was standing next to me and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: why do you do that? And I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And but I didn't hit him back, and I didn't
Speaker 1: fight because I didn't want to, like start fighting, because
Speaker 1: then I would get in trouble. So it's the one
Speaker 1: time in my life that I really I feel like
Speaker 1: I was in a fight. I got punched and I
Speaker 1: didn't do anything.
Speaker 2: Were you in many fights?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no never.
Speaker 2: That was really kind of the one, huh, which is.
Speaker 1: Weird because I've always like, wasn't afraid to say horrible
Speaker 1: things to people if I if I felt like I
Speaker 1: was attacked.
Speaker 2: That's why I used to get in fights. I would
Speaker 2: say to something, to poke at somebody, right, which was
Speaker 2: stupid because I'm instigating getting my own ass kicked. But
Speaker 2: you know, they were just bullies and I felt like
Speaker 2: they shouldn't get away with it.
Speaker 1: When'd you leave Connecticut nineteen eighty ninety. How old are you?
Speaker 2: I'm sixty five?
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, man, you look great for sixty five. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: You live in La Yeah, you should look good. Lighting
Speaker 2: in here is great. My wife put the makeup on,
Speaker 2: and this is who I am.
Speaker 1: What about your hair? You've always mine?
Speaker 2: I have good hair. This is the color that it
Speaker 2: grows out. I do die this part of my beard though.
Speaker 1: With any work physical reconstruction in your body.
Speaker 2: At all, it is just me. Nothing that purpose.
Speaker 1: You never had the face yanked on her?
Speaker 2: No, yank man. That's why I grow the beard to
Speaker 2: kind of cover the flaws in there.
Speaker 1: Neck. Don't lie, neck, go a lie.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's yeah, that might get done one of you.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can do it properly.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well I have a friend whose mom did it.
Speaker 2: She looks ridiculous. And it's your guy who I want
Speaker 2: to know who your guy is. But I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm there yet.
Speaker 1: Is life? Hey? You enjoying it? Or do you are?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: Are you somebody that's always looking back on the past,
Speaker 1: You're like, no, the best you to come.
Speaker 2: I've had good years. I had twenty years with one
Speaker 2: company making you know, all my workout programs. That came
Speaker 2: to an end, unfortunately, and I had to kind of
Speaker 2: reinvent myself.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: And the reinvention process has been hard, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's been a struggle, but you know, we've had some
Speaker 2: more wins than losses, so I feel like I'm very fortunate.
Speaker 1: First of all, So you moved out here in nineteen eighty,
Speaker 1: oh man, talk about the cocaine.
Speaker 2: There were some, There was some, There were some. There
Speaker 2: was a lot of weed, and there was a lot
Speaker 2: of beer, and there was some vodka. But I stopped
Speaker 2: all that about thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: You moved out to Los Angeles to chase your dream.
Speaker 1: What was your dream?
Speaker 2: I wanted your life, Oh wow. Oh yeah, I wanted
Speaker 2: to do stand up and movies and TV and YadA.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I modeled a little, and I did some commercials and
Speaker 2: I had bit parts and some movies. But I wasn't ambitious.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I attempted stand up for a couple of years and
Speaker 2: it was a bear. Man, it was really you know, Oh,
Speaker 2: let's see Horton. You get eleven thirty and you get
Speaker 2: there at six o'clock and you're sitting around talking to
Speaker 2: other one to be comics. I mean, you probably know
Speaker 2: the drill there and there's four people left in their
Speaker 2: shit faced and you go, oh my god, here we go,
Speaker 2: and you get your six minutes and then we'd do showcases,
Speaker 2: meet about five others, which you know, you'd pack the
Speaker 2: room with your friends, and a lot of my stuff
Speaker 2: was very physical and irreverent and probably stuff you can't
Speaker 2: even do anymore.
Speaker 1: What were some of the odd jobs you took on
Speaker 1: as soon as you came out to La.
Speaker 2: Well, I was a street performer. I was a kind
Speaker 2: of an X rated mime. So I'd go down to
Speaker 2: the Santa Monica Pier. I'd go into Westwood or UCLA
Speaker 2: and I'd get put my hat out and make twenty
Speaker 2: five bucks and I'd do that a couple of times
Speaker 2: a week so I could eat.
Speaker 1: You were an X rayed min.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not always. I mean I did the box and
Speaker 2: I walked in the wind and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2: But a lot of it was, you know, imaginary women
Speaker 2: that were like in front of me and I you know,
Speaker 2: and there'd be another one and another one.
Speaker 1: It was pretty would people like steer their children away there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them would would out on the
Speaker 2: pier that didn't go well. But like if I did
Speaker 2: a show right, I'd just play nine inch Nails and
Speaker 2: I'd turn it up and I'd go crazy and do that.
Speaker 1: Well, a show for what.
Speaker 2: Like showcases like little you know you did be a
Speaker 2: Monday night and me and my five friends would rent
Speaker 2: to a bar because it was a slow night, and
Speaker 2: we talked to the owner and whatever. We would do that,
Speaker 2: and we'd invite all our friends and we would do
Speaker 2: our X.
Speaker 1: This is this is interesting here. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that was a thing. There was.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it is now, but it was.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much you could make down in Venice
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I always would quit when I had about twenty five bucks.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't because you're down there. I mean, when
Speaker 2: you're performing for food to survive, it's not the same
Speaker 2: as if you know you're just doing it because it's
Speaker 2: your gig and you're having fun with it. It wasn't fun.
Speaker 2: It was you put the makeup on. It's ninety five degrees.
Speaker 2: I got all black on on a vest and a
Speaker 2: hat and YadA YadA, and most people it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't nice five degrees down in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: Maybe not in the eighties, no, but no, it never was.
Speaker 1: It's still not not even it's a comfortable eighty two
Speaker 1: oh man.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: At least you weren't the guy and the silver Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: too much, all right? So how did you get into,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole working out craze of everything.
Speaker 2: So I was at that point one of the many
Speaker 2: jobs I had. I was a runner over at Fox
Speaker 2: at PA and I was working for a guy by
Speaker 2: the name of Harlan Goodman who used to used to
Speaker 2: be a music guy. And I'm on this, I'm on
Speaker 2: the lot, and you know, I'm whatever. I'm feeding the cats,
Speaker 2: I'm hiding the weed, I'm making the coffee, I'm delivering
Speaker 2: the scripts. Whatever I did. That was my gig. And
Speaker 2: he was noticing my transformation. He's like, holy shit, man,
Speaker 2: you look the last three months. You look totally different.
Speaker 2: Can you help me. I wasn't a trainer. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what I was doing. I just went to my
Speaker 2: buddy's garage and he had some dumbbells in there. And
Speaker 2: so I had trained Harlan and he lost about forty
Speaker 2: five pounds, and I went, maybe I'm a trainer now, shit.
Speaker 2: And so I trained him and a few others and
Speaker 2: then he went back to music because he and Julia
Speaker 2: couldn't make a movie to save their life. Over at
Speaker 2: Fox and Tom Petty was walking down the hall and
Speaker 2: saw Harlan and said, holy shit you this is my
Speaker 2: Tom Petty. By the way, you look fantastic. I'm fat,
Speaker 2: I'm going on tour. Can yet help me? So Harlan
Speaker 2: told Tom Petty to call me.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So Petty calls me up. My roommate, Bob picks up
Speaker 2: the phone and we had we had buddies downstairs that
Speaker 2: were jokesters, and and he goes, dude, is somebody downstairs,
Speaker 2: you know, affing around saying their Tom Petty go hang up.
Speaker 2: So Bob hung up on Tom and then he crawled
Speaker 2: back and I went to his house the next day
Speaker 2: and started training Tom and I had him for four months.
Speaker 2: He went off on tour. He got ripped and strided
Speaker 2: and tore all the sleeves off his shirts and everybody went,
Speaker 2: what the hell happened to Tom Petty? And that was
Speaker 2: how it got started.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I'm a fan of Tom Petty. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a Gainesville guy. He was, yes, rip, Why I
Speaker 1: just he doesn't strike me as somebody that would have
Speaker 1: cared about his body.
Speaker 2: Well, because he saw Harlan's big change right in front
Speaker 2: of him in a Hallway at Easton Management.
Speaker 1: He was like, okay.
Speaker 2: And I went to Tom's house the next day and
Speaker 2: he put out the cigarette and said, I don't work out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what am I supposed to do? So
Speaker 2: I got him a bench, I got him a life cycle,
Speaker 2: I got him a heavy bag, I got him some
Speaker 2: dumbells and we just you know, we woul and we
Speaker 2: would just bullshit and train and he was it was horrible.
Speaker 2: The first month. He didn't know what he was doing.
Speaker 2: He was like a noodle, you know. But then he
Speaker 2: just got into it, you know what I mean. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not a drill sergeant. I'm not your therapist. I'm
Speaker 2: just your buddy here trying to help you get through this.
Speaker 1: How long is Tom Petty working out?
Speaker 2: Four months? Now? How many hours we were our hour
Speaker 2: fifteen every day, five days a week, five days Monday
Speaker 2: through Friday. Yeah, I was training for thirty two years.
Speaker 2: I don't know off really. Yeah that's impressive. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean the fact that he wanted to work out confuses me. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, did you work on his diet and everything?
Speaker 2: Did you know about that kind of stuff? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not a nutritionist. Endoprenologist.
Speaker 1: I just made mine.
Speaker 2: I made but I was a mind training top better
Speaker 2: getting him ready for a worldwide tour.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm confused by, Like how did you
Speaker 1: know how to do this stuff?
Speaker 2: Because I had been exercising for years, you know. I
Speaker 2: mean I went to World Gym in Venice and there's
Speaker 2: lou Forerigno and Arnold and I would just like spy
Speaker 2: on everybody, everybody who looked really fit and lean. And
Speaker 2: I do my own research too. I mean this is
Speaker 2: before the internet even existed, So I had to go
Speaker 2: into the library and get books and read about kinesiology
Speaker 2: and exercise science.
Speaker 1: And so you're a smart person, Not really, I mean
Speaker 1: you figure that stuff out.
Speaker 2: I just I thought, oh, this is better than doing
Speaker 2: mime on the pier. This is better than you know,
Speaker 2: go go dancing Chippendale. This is better than building furniture.
Speaker 1: This is a chippendale.
Speaker 2: I was a go go dancer, not a performer. I
Speaker 2: was at a different When the club closed, I'd get
Speaker 2: in a box about this size and I would dance
Speaker 2: on the box.
Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's nothing wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I felt like as that came out, I needed to
Speaker 2: whisper it. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: All right, So this like from the day your agent said, hey,
Speaker 1: skinny pudgy boy to training Tom Petty was how many years?
Speaker 2: Maybe a year? Maybe only about a year.
Speaker 1: I mean that's impressive.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you know, all right,
Speaker 2: So did you tell him how to eat and stuff?
Speaker 2: I made suggestions. I said, hey, look, part of the
Speaker 2: problem is what you're eating. So the little I know
Speaker 2: about it is, let's just make a I made a
Speaker 2: list of the things you should avoid as a and
Speaker 2: then all the way down to things that were sort
Speaker 2: of neutral, like yeah, you can have these things once
Speaker 2: in a while, to just fruits, vegetables, whole grains and
Speaker 2: lean proteins and healthy fats. So I just gave him
Speaker 2: a list of foods. And he had his own chef, right,
Speaker 2: he had his own people. So they were making they
Speaker 2: made a little shift, and that was part of his
Speaker 2: success for sure. Living Woodland Hills, up in the hills,
Speaker 2: looking into the valley.
Speaker 1: How nice was the place it was?
Speaker 2: You know, big long driveway gates, open up a boom,
Speaker 2: gold records and planting records on the wall.
Speaker 1: I got a short driveway. I have a real short
Speaker 1: drive So I always hated that about it. The property
Speaker 1: I went with, No one's impressed. It's like, oh, the
Speaker 1: gate opens and it's like you can just fit a
Speaker 1: car on the other side of the gate, and that's
Speaker 1: not impressive.
Speaker 2: Not as one. No long ones are great, right.
Speaker 1: No one's telling a story about my driveway. Bruce Springsteen, Yes,
Speaker 1: you trained him, Yes I did. Was he a bitch
Speaker 1: on leg days?
Speaker 2: That's a great question. No, No, he was into it
Speaker 2: more than more than I was.
Speaker 1: Actually is that? Is it not fun? If the person despises.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I can name names, but holy crap,
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just babysitting. Sometimes it's brutal for something
Speaker 2: because you know they well me.
Speaker 1: That's why you would like if I, if I was motivated,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fucking need you. It's just here's the thing,
Speaker 1: you see. You like the way working out makes you
Speaker 1: feel the end. That's always been my problem. Working out
Speaker 1: or any exercise where it's just an exercise just makes
Speaker 1: me sleepy.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Like I just I just get well, probably
Speaker 2: because your body reacts that way when it's not used
Speaker 2: to it. But then you know, then after a while
Speaker 2: that starts to go away. It goes you go from
Speaker 2: sleepy to energized, especially if you're adding good warm ups,
Speaker 2: good cool downs. You're not overtraining, you're not lifting too hard,
Speaker 2: you're not trying to you know, do you.
Speaker 1: Need to stretch before you work out?
Speaker 2: A lot of people do, some people don't.
Speaker 1: Oh, great answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if you're a former gymnast or a
Speaker 2: or a ballerina, you don't need as much.
Speaker 1: Usually yoga where you're at on yoga all.
Speaker 2: The time, every Friday hour and a half. It's so important.
Speaker 1: How did you come about inventing the P ninety X
Speaker 1: the whole thing I want to hear about that?
Speaker 2: Well, I had been you know, I was working a
Speaker 2: little bit. I was working with an order track, going
Speaker 2: back and forth to minis. I had a show on
Speaker 2: the Playboy channel called Playboy three sixty where I was
Speaker 2: the host. So it was a three camera show with
Speaker 2: with with teleprompters and a co host. So I was
Speaker 2: learning how to you know, be more comfortable in front
Speaker 2: of a camera, in front of an audience. All that
Speaker 2: kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Did you get to have sex with a playmate in
Speaker 1: a lifetime?
Speaker 2: There was one that I used to view in college.
Speaker 2: Who is my ended up being my makeup artist on
Speaker 2: the show, Like, so here is she's in front of me.
Speaker 2: But I was dating somebody. I was dating somebody the
Speaker 2: whole time I worked there.
Speaker 1: So you've never dated a playmate in your life?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: I did? Uh huh? Do you like that?
Speaker 2: It was nice?
Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah, you go back to that and you're roll.
Speaker 2: No, no, not that one. I don't go back to
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: You don't got that, all right? So you're doing a
Speaker 1: order track?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I was just you know, getting better
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 1: Kind that was a dumb machine. That was silly.
Speaker 2: It was silly. It was on the wood, was on
Speaker 2: the rollers, yep, and it was just this over and
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 1: But whatever.
Speaker 2: It was a gig. So I would fly to Minneapolis
Speaker 2: about six or seven times and I would be there
Speaker 2: on camera spokesperson dude. And then that was experienced and
Speaker 2: I had that show that helped me out. And then
Speaker 2: one of the gigs was just this young entrepreneur that said, hey, man,
Speaker 2: like you to be the main trainer in this really
Speaker 2: inexpensive little thing called Great Body Guaranteed. It was a
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars gig and that was that, and then
Speaker 2: we put it out into the world and then people
Speaker 2: noticed it started making money. So he said, let's let's
Speaker 2: do another one, which is kind of rare because most
Speaker 2: things that end up on an infomercial die over. So
Speaker 2: we did something called Power ninety and he gave me
Speaker 2: some time to develop that, and he said to me,
Speaker 2: he's like, when you're working with Petty or Idol or
Speaker 2: Bruce or any Lenox or whatever these types, can you
Speaker 2: recreate that in front of a TV without all the
Speaker 2: extra accoutrema, with just a dumb bells and some bands,
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, sure, it's a gig. I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: And I did, and then that thing. I lived in
Speaker 2: the same apartment for twenty one and a half years
Speaker 2: and that Power ninety twenty one was it rent Controlled
Speaker 2: fourteen thirty eight fifteen Street, Santa Monica rent control department.
Speaker 2: Car got broken to like at least twice a month.
Speaker 2: It was, you know, it was the hood sort of
Speaker 2: where I.
Speaker 1: Was woll not the nicest of hoods, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And then Power ninety came out and I
Speaker 2: was getting royalties at that point, and I was able
Speaker 2: to move on and get a real home, and after
Speaker 2: that we thought, like, what's next, And then, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bad idea, making power ninety harder,
Speaker 2: and we said, let's call it P ninety X. Let's
Speaker 2: add pull ups, let's add martial arts. So he gave
Speaker 2: me a full eight months to develop that program, and
Speaker 2: when we first put it out there, it died because
Speaker 2: people went, holy crap, that's way too hard. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to do that. But then there was this these
Speaker 2: devotees that went, shit, that thing is real, and they
Speaker 2: started submitting that before and after pictures in their own
Speaker 2: little video, and we took that footage and their photos
Speaker 2: and we put it in the infomercial and it went
Speaker 2: from and it was on every channel twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: And now were you did you have a stake in this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I had. Well, I got development money and I also
Speaker 2: got I got a piece of the pie every month.
Speaker 2: I get a check every month jackpot.
Speaker 1: Would you say P ninety X.
Speaker 2: Apparently it was the biggest fitness program in history something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, if it makes you feel any better. In my
Speaker 1: office back in the day, there was one copy of
Speaker 1: it that we all pirated it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of pirated it.
Speaker 1: Was.
Speaker 2: It was at one point, for whatever, some six month
Speaker 2: period of time, it was the single most pirated DVD
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: That's something.
Speaker 2: And I would sign them and I go, I go,
Speaker 2: that ain't that's pirate. I could tell I used to
Speaker 2: go to DC and train all the senators and congressmen
Speaker 2: when I was there. I used to go to the
Speaker 2: Pentagon and train folks there and they go, hey, can
Speaker 2: you sign my thing? And I go, Congressman, this is
Speaker 2: this is pirated copy.
Speaker 1: During the penanty X thing. Let me just get a
Speaker 1: few of these right here, we had a crunchy Frog,
Speaker 1: super Skater spin squad. Looking back, do you wish you
Speaker 1: would have spent a little more time coming up with
Speaker 1: names for these exercises?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, Well, most exercises are called like latisimus dorsi,
Speaker 2: you know, lap polls, and the most traditional names were
Speaker 2: dull and I would add names because I go, this
Speaker 2: name sucks. We got to get a better name here.
Speaker 1: And what about people that did these workouts in their
Speaker 1: apartments and.
Speaker 2: A lot of people who live below are very unhappy.
Speaker 1: I've heard those stories a long seems like a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean plio metrics, for example, which is just jumping,
Speaker 2: So you're just for an hour. People below are taking
Speaker 2: the broomstick and going stop.
Speaker 1: Is every door frame a gym to you?
Speaker 2: But that an intended spit take right there? Almost not everyone, No,
Speaker 2: because some aren't strong enough. Right, that's what I wanted
Speaker 2: that one wouldn't hold up.
Speaker 1: Did you ever guys get like sued for me from
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 2: We had a few lawyers that are working really hard
Speaker 2: at times.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You can't just hang from any door.
Speaker 2: No. No, the device that we created was was pretty unique,
Speaker 2: pretty special, but it didn't work on every door.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing with polls too. If I can touch
Speaker 1: the floor, I will You know what.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You got to bend your knees.
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: Because it's just like when people go running and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: run anymore, so I just stopped running.
Speaker 2: Or start walking.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I need to be for me to
Speaker 1: do pull ups properly, I need to be hanging off
Speaker 1: of a building.
Speaker 2: So you're an all or nothing guy, all right, if.
Speaker 1: There's no consequences, it seems stupid not to just put
Speaker 1: your feet now.
Speaker 2: So you're getting need a taller doorway.
Speaker 1: Then, seriously, did you feel that P ninety X was
Speaker 1: kind of the precursor to CrossFit?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Was. I didn't mean it to be, but that's
Speaker 2: what happened. A lot of people who went through P
Speaker 2: ninety X felt like, oh wow, look who I am
Speaker 2: Now I'd gotten really fit, And a lot of people
Speaker 2: did P ninety X two, three, four, five, fifteen times,
Speaker 2: and then a lot of those folks all made their
Speaker 2: way over to CrossFit. And the bummer about CrossFit for
Speaker 2: a lot of folks as they started getting hurt.
Speaker 1: Is CrossFit stupid?
Speaker 2: For some people? It saves their life. For some people,
Speaker 2: it's amazing and incredible in the community and all of
Speaker 2: that's great, But a lot of people end up getting
Speaker 2: hurt because they're just overdoing it a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, do you flip a tire? Is that your thing?
Speaker 2: I've not my thing. I don't have a tire. I
Speaker 2: don't flip tires. But when I took a class here,
Speaker 2: I am flipping tires.
Speaker 1: So where did they Where do they get all these
Speaker 1: old tractor tires from?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: You ever got inside of a tire and rolled down
Speaker 1: a hill. You want to talk about a rush.
Speaker 2: Have you? You've done it on your show?
Speaker 1: Well no, I've been in tubes before and went rolling
Speaker 1: down a hill as a kid. That was so much fun.
Speaker 1: What about the shake weight? Did you ever try it?
Speaker 1: You never? You never touched?
Speaker 2: Seemed silly to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you could min that thing perfectly. I
Speaker 1: just did dumb, dumber exercise. Is shake wake or the
Speaker 1: thigh Master?
Speaker 2: I was in the thire master commercial. That was one
Speaker 2: of my first original ones, the original one.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, alright, fuck Mary? Kill Susanne Summers body
Speaker 1: by Jake Billy Blanks?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I know.
Speaker 1: Well it's not it's not an easy.
Speaker 2: Which one? When I would have sex with you?
Speaker 1: Well you can. You can have sex with your wife Mary.
Speaker 1: You could marry her. You don't pick her to marry
Speaker 1: I'm already married. I would. This isn't this is hypothetical?
Speaker 1: Is real? All right? So you're gonna fuck Susanne Summers? Okay?
Speaker 1: Then which one?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Married? And body by Jake or Billy Blanks?
Speaker 2: I'd have to I'd marry Jake and I'd kill Billy.
Speaker 1: Oh man, rip Billy where do you feel, How do
Speaker 1: you feel about steroids?
Speaker 2: It's just trouble. The future is going to be a
Speaker 2: problem if you're going to be doing that.
Speaker 1: In Venice Beach in the eighties, when you saw Muscle Beach,
Speaker 1: like you saw everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all going down and still there's still
Speaker 2: being abused today. Sure it's all about ego and looks.
Speaker 2: And you know when you exercise it's Snorpineffron dope means serotonin,
Speaker 2: something called brain derived neurotropic factor BDNF, which gets released
Speaker 2: out of the temporal lobe of your brain. And when
Speaker 2: I read this book sparked by doctor John Rady years ago,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, this is why I should
Speaker 2: be working out now, not because of all the not
Speaker 2: because I'm chasing girls or trying to have big arms
Speaker 2: or any of that silliness.
Speaker 1: The chasing girls part that see, that's where I always,
Speaker 1: I always.
Speaker 2: But they didn't care about that. They cared about No. No,
Speaker 2: you were funny, you were smart. That's why you know exactly,
Speaker 2: that's where I wanted to be with you.
Speaker 1: The reason I never worked out was because the women
Speaker 1: that I was attracted to I could get if I
Speaker 1: couldn't get them. If they were like, no, you're not
Speaker 1: strong enough to date me, I would have gotten stronger.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But then again, I'm thinking back in the day, it
Speaker 2: was easy for you. You're a handsome guy. You're fine.
Speaker 1: Ugly. I'm not ugly, but I'm not I But you know.
Speaker 2: Women just they want a personality. They want somebody who's
Speaker 2: got a reason for being on this earth. There, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: Physically, it's a little different.
Speaker 1: I'm tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tall is good.
Speaker 1: Tall tall offsets muscles on some level.
Speaker 2: I'm only medium height.
Speaker 1: Well, we call that short in the tall world.
Speaker 2: That's why I have muscles, because I'm only five to
Speaker 2: ten five nine. I'm five ten all right and a half.
Speaker 2: But I've lost a half an inch?
Speaker 1: Oh in that weird? How about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I am not I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: starting to shrink yet, but I look forward to it.
Speaker 1: What's your best current health and fitness advice?
Speaker 2: Consistency is really I mean, there's a lot of them,
Speaker 2: but consistency is everything.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, the more you do, the better you get right.
Speaker 2: The less you do the more complicated it is is
Speaker 2: the more frustrated you'll be. So if you're gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: if you really want to be fit and healthy, you
Speaker 2: got to it's got to be constant.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: People say, hey, man, how often I say all the time,
Speaker 2: all the time, like breathing and eating and paying your
Speaker 2: bills and going to work all the time, because everybody
Speaker 2: else is just surviving doing the basics. But anybody else's
Speaker 2: training on a regular basis, they get to have a
Speaker 2: much more interesting life. Like my wife and I went
Speaker 2: to Italy and we got on a bike tour and
Speaker 2: for four and a half hours and we did the
Speaker 2: same thing. And so she's into it too, not as
Speaker 2: much as me.
Speaker 1: Now I would have loved it. If you're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: she's morbidly obese. She just happy as can be, just
Speaker 1: happy as can be. Yeah, she's huge, No, but she's
Speaker 1: into fitness to that, not as much as me. Well,
Speaker 1: if I don't work out, though, is there any reason
Speaker 1: to start? If you're saying like, oh, it has to
Speaker 1: be constant, because constant seems so overwhelming to me that I'm.
Speaker 2: Block five to six days a week something.
Speaker 1: What do you think about taking a walk with your dog.
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah it's not good enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure it is.
Speaker 1: I always uh give every guest on the show a gift.
Speaker 2: I would love that, right, So this is oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, this is a brand. It's never been used. In
Speaker 1: Venice Beach, they play this this paddle tennis.
Speaker 2: Game that's not a pickleball.
Speaker 1: No, it's not pickaball. I play pickleball. And so this
Speaker 1: person goes, oh, this isn't pickaball, it's a different I go,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking want a different sport.
Speaker 2: I got a sport already, right.
Speaker 1: So he's like, no, no, it's a good pat So
Speaker 1: it's over one hundred dollars. I think, here, this is
Speaker 1: your paddle, and I'm like, loud light, like pickle No,
Speaker 1: I don't think you play with like a dead tennis
Speaker 1: ball or something like that. They only play it in
Speaker 1: Venice Beach.
Speaker 2: They got Venice Beach managed to have their special paddles
Speaker 2: made for just them.
Speaker 1: But you know it's right, you know what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about those courts that are right next to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always thought that was was pickleball.
Speaker 1: Not pickleball. It's this put on before, But that's your
Speaker 1: paddle now. But he's going to be mad at me
Speaker 1: when he listens to this episode and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my my wife's cousin. He's a he's a good guy,
Speaker 1: but you don't. Don't try to introduce me to something new.
Speaker 2: I see that.
Speaker 1: Will you give that away?
Speaker 2: Probably if I if you signed it though, it would have.
Speaker 1: Just signed it. Will Yeah, sure, where's it gonna show up?
Speaker 1: It's it's a black paddle because it because I was
Speaker 1: like Venice Beach.
Speaker 2: I can show up down to Venice Beach with that
Speaker 2: paddle and look like he.
Speaker 1: Will be so confused to make Is this guy gonna
Speaker 1: go work out? Or is he gonna go play? They
Speaker 1: won't so many options for me there. How's that gym
Speaker 1: on the beach? Is it just complete garbage?
Speaker 2: It's the right thing for the right people who do it,
Speaker 2: but I just it's not you know, lifting heavy weights,
Speaker 2: rusty old sand filled weights, and those guys, A lot
Speaker 2: of those guys are using the roids and.
Speaker 1: Then then homeless ship.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a funky down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think about Venice during the pandemic?
Speaker 1: That was sad, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what happened. What happened?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it's just a shell of itself,
Speaker 1: especially what you saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have been down there, and I
Speaker 2: bet you twenty years. Oh I haven't been down there
Speaker 2: in twenty years. When I first moved here, I was
Speaker 2: in Santa Monica and in Venice all the time. I
Speaker 2: was at the beach all the time for twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Such a novelty. Having grown up on the East.
Speaker 1: Coast, I always think it's weird when people moved to California,
Speaker 1: but don't move all the way, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to live in what's the hipster area? Silver Lake? Like,
Speaker 1: like what you're moving out west? Go all the way,
Speaker 1: get to the water. I'm a beach person. Oh so well,
Speaker 1: I've served my whole life. It's all I can explains that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't touch the board.
Speaker 2: Where's your favorite favorite surf spot?
Speaker 1: I won't tell you you go to.
Speaker 2: Do you go to like Honhay Bay and do it there?
Speaker 1: Or No. I don't like to travel for surfing. I
Speaker 1: like to be in my house. Yeah, I just that's.
Speaker 2: What I say. You're a Malibu guy, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like traveling. Yeah, it's like too much.
Speaker 2: Have you have you ever had Laired Hamilton on your Yeah?
Speaker 1: I surfle the Laird every day. Oh no, I've never
Speaker 1: had them on my show, though.
Speaker 2: I don't know them well, I know I know Gabby
Speaker 2: a little bit better than than Anyway.
Speaker 1: What did you do? You worked out with them? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They have an Olympic sized pool and they do a lot
Speaker 2: of underwater with dumbbells and breathing and it's intense.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit scary. Is it just underwater because
Speaker 1: you're not tall?
Speaker 2: Damn? Well, there's a there's a low end and and
Speaker 2: a deep end. You would be You wouldn't be tall
Speaker 2: enough in the deep end either.
Speaker 1: Is every is every side of deep end.
Speaker 2: I'm five, I'm not five to one.
Speaker 1: God, you're I think technically the average height of men
Speaker 1: in this five five eight. You're right?
Speaker 2: Don't you think a guy five to ten doesn't know that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? If we don't need to look it up, we
Speaker 1: know it's five eight, that's right. Have you seen that
Speaker 1: commercial about Ben Carrotts? Yes?
Speaker 2: I have, Yes, I what do they call that? They
Speaker 2: call that?
Speaker 1: I don't know why in your wheelhouse, but carrots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was that in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that because you had an you
Speaker 1: had an infomercial about your body, I assume carrots.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who has the bent carrot. I
Speaker 2: mean the fact that just came up in conversation once
Speaker 2: and says my wife likes it. Oh, his wife likes it.
Speaker 1: It must be hooked up.
Speaker 2: That would make it better.
Speaker 1: I guess right. A hard left is a tough self.
Speaker 2: I just really get it into the direction so much
Speaker 2: so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Wait, you want to talk about your disease. Oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ramsey Hunt type two severe. What was it?
Speaker 2: Ramsey Hunt syndrome. It affects your vision, your smell, your taste,
Speaker 2: and your balance. It's like vertigo, because vertigo is this,
Speaker 2: this is this inside your brain all the time. So
Speaker 2: if I tried to look right, I'd have to go
Speaker 2: that way and then I then I'd have to go
Speaker 2: super slow because if I went like this, it would
Speaker 2: just the shakiness and the nausea would just kick in
Speaker 2: and then bam.
Speaker 1: You know, how did you get it? How do you
Speaker 1: get yes?
Speaker 2: This period? If you have a ch chicken pox virus
Speaker 2: in your body and you get its shingles. It shingles
Speaker 2: in your ear, so you can get.
Speaker 1: She complains about it brutal.
Speaker 2: So it's burning. It's burning all the time, like lighters
Speaker 2: on your skin. The whole time I had this, whole
Speaker 2: ear was just open pussy, awful sores and affected the fifth, sixth,
Speaker 2: and seventh cranial nerves that affect your sight and your
Speaker 2: smell and your taste, in your balance. So it was
Speaker 2: going into my brain. And so nerves are weird. They'll
Speaker 2: take their good time to heal or not.
Speaker 1: A lot of people.
Speaker 2: I had Bell's palsy for a while, which is a
Speaker 2: great look for a non camera guy. And uh, and
Speaker 2: mine went away, but a lot of peoples don't. Justin
Speaker 2: Bieber's is still around a little bit if you look
Speaker 2: at them.
Speaker 1: Okay, but so he definitely had it.
Speaker 2: He definitely had it. And also Feinstein, Senator Feinstein, she.
Speaker 1: Did pean oney X.
Speaker 2: She did not No, but the Obamas did.
Speaker 1: The Obamas did Bombas did worse they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Michelle looks like a definite after photo.
Speaker 1: How old right now? Are you going to live the number?
Speaker 2: I use? You're probably gonna give me some shit for
Speaker 2: but I think maybe one hundred and nine. Huh, But
Speaker 2: if I if, I, I mean, look, I feel better
Speaker 2: at sixty five than I did it fifty five or
Speaker 2: forty five or thirty five, because I keep making little
Speaker 2: adjustments with my diet and my mindfulness and my breathing
Speaker 2: techniques and my hydration and my supplementation, and my electrolytes
Speaker 2: and my phone rolling am I and all my you know,
Speaker 2: cold plunges. I'm always you know, I'm always.
Speaker 1: You're doing all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm open to trying things that make
Speaker 2: me feel better and function better.
Speaker 1: If I was going to guess how long you were
Speaker 1: going to live, use it one hundred and nine.
Speaker 2: I'm probably late eighties or early nine.
Speaker 1: My guess is sixty six. Wow, No, I got things
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. Wait a second, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: Hold on you. Just if if you knew you were
Speaker 1: only going to live one more year, would you keep
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: If I had one more year, I would start planning
Speaker 2: the worldwide tour. I'd go ski in the in the Alps,
Speaker 2: I'd go ski in South America. I would go to
Speaker 2: you know, I would spend a lot of time in Jackson.
Speaker 1: Hole, I got, I got. I'm saying the workout stuff,
Speaker 1: the cold plunges. Would you like stop doing a cold plumb?
Speaker 2: Well, if it helped me continue to do push the
Speaker 2: envelope with everything else, I probably would do some version
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, No, I just didn't know if it was
Speaker 1: like no, it's just such a party of your life
Speaker 1: and that you enjoyed it so much, as like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not an end to a means.
Speaker 4: I mean, with a year left, all right, fucking five years,
Speaker 4: five years that I'd keep doing what I'm doing, and
Speaker 4: I'd keep experimenting with new ideas that maybe it might
Speaker 4: help me too.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to cheat death?
Speaker 2: No, Death's coming, and I'm alright with that.
Speaker 1: And don't you think we'll be able to just download
Speaker 1: our brains onto something then put it into a new body.
Speaker 2: It'd be kind of cool if I could live long
Speaker 2: enough so that whatever they come up with I can.
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. Well, listen, this is right?
Speaker 2: Was I any good?
Speaker 1: You're wonderful?
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time and your outlook, and I wish
Speaker 1: you the best. Appreciate likewise, manks man Pasha, all right, Carl,
Speaker 1: We did it. My wonderful dog is here. Had a
Speaker 1: big scare last week. Somehow he got into my neighbor's
Speaker 1: second story balcony. Oh yeah, I only looked an hour
Speaker 1: and a half for you trying to see your Yeah, shame.
Speaker 1: Tony was great. Thanks for being on the show and
Speaker 1: for changing my body physically. We did a before uh
Speaker 1: shot before the interview of my body, and then we
Speaker 1: did one after and you can see that Tony completely
Speaker 1: transformed me. Got some plugs the charitable clothing line Boys
Speaker 1: Wear Pink. Can't wait for somebody to buy me out
Speaker 1: on that. That's kind of the goal I'm performing. I
Speaker 1: mean in Los Angeles, May fourth, at the Dolby Theater.
Speaker 1: It's part of the Netflix is a Joe Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: Get tickets soon. They're going fast. I mean, not like
Speaker 1: one of those people's like oh I was on sale
Speaker 1: for eight minutes and sold out. No, no, I don't
Speaker 1: sell out until day of hopefully. And finally, as a reminder,
Speaker 1: people have heard me explain this before, but if this
Speaker 1: is the first time listening, I want you to understand.
Speaker 1: When my son was three years old, I recorded him
Speaker 1: every night telling me a bedtime story because I thought
Speaker 1: the way he mispronounced words and the way he talked
Speaker 1: was so sweet and cute, and I knew that one
Speaker 1: day that would go away. He's a few years older now,
Speaker 1: so these are older stories from my son at night.
Speaker 1: Then I animated him and I didn't do it. Eddie
Speaker 1: did it. But the animation is not very good. Whatever,
Speaker 1: see you guys next week.
Speaker 3: Well, let me get carry the wily stories.
Speaker 1: Sure, tell me a really short story.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm trying. Oh, I don't do a lot.
Speaker 3: But the rabbit didn't know how to jumpled it a lot,
Speaker 3: so he decided to make a way jump. He wid it.
Speaker 3: He winded himself on a bike.
Speaker 1: The end. How am I supposed to go to bed
Speaker 1: after hearing that story?
Speaker 3: Sit down a warm story and then and then it
Speaker 3: might be wait up, time down.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks,