1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book podcast Network. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're joining me today. And today I have 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: with me Bobby Burrike. He is a writer for OutKick 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: and most importantly, he is a fellow Michigander. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, Bobby. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tutor, I appreciate it. I mean, you're the only 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 3: person media that I know is from and lives in Michigan. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: So pretty cool, right, It's always people from New York, California, 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: people I can't relate to. So fellow Michi Ganner is 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: pretty cool. 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: So we need to let people know what the majority 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: of the country is really like. 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: That's why it's important for us to talk. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: And I think that the best way to kick this 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: off is this latest stuff with beer. 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: What do you say? 20 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so wild because if you look at it, 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: and this is a problem with so many corporations, is 22 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: that they cater to their critics, not their consumer base. 23 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: That's what you see with bud Light, you see with 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: Miller Lte. Even though their ad was a couple of 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: months ago, it just resurfaced this week about trying to 26 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: honor the founding mothers of beer who evil men put 27 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: in bikinis. I believe as they're phrasing, but that is 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: just them not understanding who their consumers are. And you 29 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: saw this so often with big TV networks, is that 30 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: instead of reassuring that people who are buying their products 31 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: or consuming their products that they're for them, they just 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: neglect them and go and try to make amends with 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: people who already don't like them. And that was my 34 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: biggest issue with bud Light is that by Honor and 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Dilla mulvaney, who I don't know, it's either mentally ill 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: or trying to mock the female gender. I mean, the 37 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: stuff he does is just so asinine that they're not 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: appealing to bud Light drinkers. They're telling them, hey, we 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: don't care what you guys want. We're going to try 40 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: to appeal to a new group, which, according to the 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: vice president, is less fratty. She said, bud Light consumers 42 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: are too fratty, so it's disrespectful to the consumer. 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: But if that's the way you're saying, are you really 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: a marketer? 45 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: If you don't understand the well, she actually understood who 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: her clientele is, but she decided that she was going 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: to go against what they would want. 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? 49 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: Which I think they prioritize pr in confused status with success, right. 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: I think this marketer knows who her audience is, but 51 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: thought maybe The New York Times is going to honor 52 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: Anheuser Busch by getting the business with Dylan mulvany. I 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: think it's status over success, and I have a peace 54 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: on this last week, the whole bud light repercussion sales 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: and market capitalized collapsing. That just shows you that the 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: common man still has a lot of power in this country, 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: even if marketers and big firms so often to coglect them. 58 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm really tired of this. 59 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: You know, if you see a woman who is appearing 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: to be beautiful in some way, that this is somehow 61 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: taking away from women. I think it's funny that these 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: like raging liberals will go on and on about how 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: women are taking advantage of put in bikinis. But those 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: same liberals will then be like, I quit my job 65 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: teaching and I'm making five hundred thousand on OnlyFans. 66 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: It's awesome. 67 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like those liberal women who put on TikTok 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: like wearing revealing clothing and bikinis and say, why are 69 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: my followers sec correct? 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Those girls go to the job and they're like, he's 71 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: looking at my butt. 72 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you see that so often. That's exactly 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: what it is. Right, Like, on the one hand, they 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: post a photos, everybody sees them and calls them hot. 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: Then they get offended when they are hot. So they're 76 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: kind of serving two purposes, right. They want to be 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: cold hot, but they want to be offended when they're 78 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: called hot. It's really backwards. Look at the way we've 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: progressed to the society. 80 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because you know, women in bikinis 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: are able to sell things. Men in bikinis never, that's 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: never a good idea. I think it gives women more power. 83 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: People see men in espedo and they're like, oh my gosh, 84 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: wash my eyes out. I never want to see that again. 85 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: So I think women should be proud that we can 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: sell things. 87 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: I agree. 88 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: And by the way, you know, nobody wants to say 89 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: what you just said, and that's what bothers me so 90 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: much because in these meetings they're not saying what you 91 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: and I are saying, which is the truth right, because 92 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: the truth is now apparently offended, Like what you said, 93 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: somebody to say, oh, tutor, that sex is how dare you, 94 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: by the way, are you sure that guy we're in 95 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: a speedo is a man? I mean, those are the 96 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: comments America. But normal people like you and I would 97 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: say it's pretty obvious beer drinkers would rather look at 98 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: a hot chicken a bikini than some guy Dyla Mulvani 99 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: pretends to be a girl, even though he's a twenty 100 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: seven year old. 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: The funny thing is that they will put him in 102 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: a bikini in a tub and be like, and so, 103 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: how does this work? Like the way your mind has 104 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: to twist around this? Wait a minute. You have a 105 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: man in a bikini in a bathtub, and that is 106 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: supposed to be sexy, but he's supposed to be a woman, 107 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: and so women in a bathtub then are sexy. But 108 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: then if you're a biological woman, you have to be 109 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: mad about being in a bathtub. 110 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: If you're only if you've decided to. 111 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: Become a woman, Katie, how do you even wrap your 112 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: mind around these things? 113 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 114 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like most things with the trans movement, just 115 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: puts my mind in a blender because, like what you 116 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: just said, trying to connect all the dots man woman, 117 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: appropriate and not appropriate. You're absolutely right. I don't think 118 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: none of this stuff is representative society at LARCH. I 119 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: believe there's a small, radical, very loud minority that supports 120 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: this stuff. I think it is quite clear based on 121 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: the reaction to the bud Light partnership, the most amheric 122 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: can say, Yeah, this stuff's nonsense. That guy's a trolled, 123 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: there's something wrong with him. We really shouldn't be celebrating 124 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: his three hundred and sixty five days of girlhood by 125 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: the way, not womanhood, girlhood and just so messed up. 126 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: And I think glad to see most of the country 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: take a stand and just stop buying bud Light after this. 128 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a good point that you make. 129 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: The girlhood thing makes everything a little bit more questionable 130 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: because this is an adult that is acting as a child, 131 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: and so what is really going on there? But you 132 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: know we are not going to figure that out today. 133 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: I think that's there's a lot here that is really 134 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: hard to wrap your mind around. 135 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: And honestly, I. 136 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Will tell you that I actually feel like Dylan mulvany. 137 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: And I know this is not a popular opinion, but 138 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: I feel like Dylan mulvany has been used and ultimately 139 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: this is going to be really hard on Dylan as 140 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: a person. 141 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be very emotionally. 142 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: Challenging because there's been a lot of life changes for 143 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Dylan over the past year, and a lot of those 144 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: are going to come back and hit really hard pretty soon. 145 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: And then coming out as this public person and being 146 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: used by advertisers this way. Let's face it, these marketers 147 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: are using him to try to be extreme. They don't 148 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: care about what the feelings are, what happens after the 149 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: fact once they've done their deed and gotten rid of 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: the influencer. But now where does that leave the person 151 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: who's been used in this way? 152 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: It is so well said, and I wrote about this 153 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: in my latest column. So there's a discussion a couple 154 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: of months ago about what is woke and at the 155 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: end of the day, what is the weaponization of vulnerable groups? 156 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: You saw it with race and you're now seeing it 157 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: with so called transgender persons. They're weaponizing people like mulvaney 158 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: who are susceptible to believe in anything they tell him, 159 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: and they're using him for their own status. And you 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: saw us with a race too. They would tell supposedly 161 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: marginalized group, hey, society is still racist against you. Everything's 162 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: rigged against you. So white liberals at the top could 163 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: then use that and say, hey, look at we're focusing 164 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: on these marginalized groups. Vote for us, give us a pass, 165 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: and demonize all of our political opposition. That's exactly what's 166 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: going on with what I call women face. They are 167 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: telling these sometimes teenagers, sometimes adults, Hey, you be whatever 168 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: you want to be, treat your gender like a costume, 169 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: and will tell you how victimized you actually are and 170 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: how evil everybody else is. I mean, there was such 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: great political, financial, and social benefit for the left by 172 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: making the country more racialized during the aftermath of George Floyd. 173 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: I believe they're doing the exact same thing with the 174 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: transgender movement, trying to gain status by pretending to care 175 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: about these groups. 176 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: But they're not the ones who are going to have 177 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: to bear the consequences. 178 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, as far as I know, Mulvany hasn't had 179 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: any physical surgery, but those that undergo gendle MUTI I 180 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: mean tutor. There was a story in the New York 181 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: Times two months ago that creates life long wounds when 182 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: you call your body parts off, your mind and body 183 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: will always treat those wounds like a permanent scar. That 184 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: is life long pain that political and social leaders have 185 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: encouraged for their own benefit. 186 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 187 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: Well, so from what I understand, he has had face feminization, 188 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: so I believe there's been surgery there. I don't believe 189 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: what they call the top or bottom surgery has gone on. 190 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 191 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: I mean, here is the thing here, we're talking about 192 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: a person's personal body about because he's become so public. 193 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, what has he done? Is this permanently damaging him? 194 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: And I think that's something that we really don't talk about. 195 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: And that's the shame in these companies glorifying this, because 196 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: to be honest, if we are being honest, it's not 197 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: an easy life. And for the people who genuinely struggle 198 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: with gender dys morphia, that's a very challenging life and 199 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: oftentimes they're searching and they never really find satisfaction or 200 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: happiness or joy because it is a really hard thing 201 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: to go through in life. And body dys morphia comes 202 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: in many different ways. You see gender, you see people 203 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: who go through eating disorders. It's always a struggle. So 204 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: glorifying this is really not helping anybody. And I think 205 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: that's the thing that is shocking as a parent, as 206 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: someone who knew folks in college that went through body 207 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: dys morphia. It's something that I mean, if you think 208 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: about it, there would never have been a time when 209 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: corporations would come out and just cheer on anarexia and 210 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: say how great this is. But it's in that same category, 211 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: and yet we have corporations that have just embraced this 212 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: to a way that it's gone to such an extreme. 213 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: But I would say that the shout your victimhood mentality 214 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: started really under Obama. We started to see that then 215 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: embrace victimhood, be a victim. And since then, look at 216 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 2: how society has broken down, especially in canities that he 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: really pushed that. And now we see high crime, we 218 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: see violence, and they're cheering on crime too. They're letting 219 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: people off, these soft on crime prosecutors are letting people 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: continue to destroy businesses. Businesses are leaving these cities. What 221 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: is going to be left if we continue to embrace 222 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: victimhood instead of victory. 223 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we described is what I call the pyramit 224 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: of victimization, and obviously straight white males at the very 225 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: bottom of it now and all of a sudden transperson 226 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: at the very top. They certainly replaced minority skin color wise. 227 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean that seems pretty obvious based on the movement 228 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: of this and I just think it is backwards and 229 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: like you said, we are awarding people who have the 230 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: best claim of oh, I've been a victim. And I 231 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: also think it brings up a larger point, like you 232 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: talked about with Anarexkia, by telling people they can be 233 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: whatever they want to be, that they can wear gender 234 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: like a mask that encourages them to not overcome self 235 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: hate but just succumb to it. 236 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: Right, the worst. 237 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: Thing anybody can do is hate themselves and undergo a 238 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: vivid change to undo that, instead of reconciling who they are. 239 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: And that's what I worry about with this entire movement 240 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: is that people don't like who they are, so they think, Okay, 241 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to be happier turning into a woman or 242 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: turning into a man, or maybe turning into both, and 243 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: switching back and forth like so many do now. I'm 244 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: going to go undergo these surgeries and those wounds are permanent. 245 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Those scars are permanent, and that's not better for them. 246 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: That's not them coming to grips with who they are. 247 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: That's them trying to change who they are and really 248 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: succumbing to it. I would say self, Louall, and that's 249 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: the most dangerous consequence of this entire charade. 250 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 251 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I think that when you talk 252 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: about that wound, that permanent wound, people are not understanding 253 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: that when you have these surgeries, they are changing your 254 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: nerve endings or cutting through your nerves. There's no feeling. 255 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: This is not You're not becoming something else. You are 256 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: losing big part of yourself. And you have to really 257 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: understand that it's not a career change that you can 258 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: go back. 259 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: This is a permanent change. 260 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 261 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's what I think so wrong with the 262 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: whole conversation about this is that people dismissed it as oh, 263 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: this is a cultural or topic. This topic shouldn't affect 264 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: you if it's not you. Well, actually, I think this 265 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: does affect a lot of people because a a lot 266 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: of people are now taking showers in schools with men 267 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: who call themselves women. 268 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not a person. 269 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 3: I mean that's a problem that affects everybody. And I 270 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: think what you're seeing is the dangers that these surgeries 271 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: have on people that shouldn't be a problem that society 272 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: just says, oh, that's a new problem, let them go 273 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 3: deal with it themselves. I mean, no, we need to 274 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 3: a forwarn people the consequences, which nobody's doing. I mean, 275 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: if you go on like CNN or MSNBC and say 276 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: what I just said, they would call you transphobic and 277 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: probably cut your mic off and not let you say it. 278 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: But those are the conversation that need to be had. 279 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: If adults still go and do this, they absolutely need 280 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: to know the consequences should be under no circumstance a 281 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: way where kids that are under eighteen can undergo these 282 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: permanent changes. I mean anyone who is encouraging that. I 283 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: don't know if it's pedophilia or them trying to just 284 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: benefit from political discourse, but that should absolutely not happening. 285 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: In any other era that would be considered bizarre, offensive 286 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: and dangerous, But in this society in twenty twenty three 287 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: is supposed to be normalized. I mean, I just can 288 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: never come to grips with that. 289 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, you talk about that pyramid, and obviously we know 290 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: there was a time when the white male was really 291 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: dominant in this country, and it was the one that 292 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: was you know, at the tops of companies and very powerful. 293 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: And then that women started to come in, and then 294 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: it was really the African American woman, you know, the 295 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: black woman that was going to be put on the 296 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Supreme Court, that was going to be held in high esteem. 297 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: And then we went to the transgender and that seems 298 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: to have taken over. But black men never really had 299 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: that moment where they were embraced and said, you know, 300 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: we want to have we want to really lift up 301 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 2: black men in this country and make them CEOs and 302 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: see them succeed. And so we see a society where 303 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: we have high black on black crime and not enough 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: opportunity in those communities where we're raising up a very 305 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: small percentage of people and ignoring black men altogether. When 306 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: is it a time when black men succeed in this country? Yeah? 307 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean, and that's such a good point because the 308 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: entire progressor of movement pretty much originates from the idea 309 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: that we always need to progress, and I think we 310 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: often progress too fast and ignore change, ignore progress, and 311 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: black men were just skipped over. And I don't think 312 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: it's any coincidence that you're seeing black on black crying 313 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: so often, initiate almost always by black men, particularly when 314 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: it's violence. So yeah, I don't know when their turn is, 315 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: but they certainly never had it. They certainly never had 316 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: it in the corporate sphere other than maybe on sports 317 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: networks and stuff. I think they did have their time. 318 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: Maybe they have it right now, but by and large, 319 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. And there's other groups that have been 320 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: passed over too. I mean, the Hispanic community is much 321 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: larger than the African American community, they make up far 322 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: less powerful positions. I mean, there's a study from CNN 323 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: a couple of months ago that when it comes to 324 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: the medical field, Hispanics are far more underrepresented than African 325 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: Americans and they don't really get the attention. I think 326 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 3: a lot of that is is the media and politicians. 327 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: They focus on the marginalized group or so called marginalized 328 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: group that they believe they can then weaponize for their 329 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: own status. And I think for whatever reason, black men 330 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Hispanics were passed over. Because I think it's clear right 331 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: now and it's going to be the next couple of years. 332 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Trans people are the focus, and you know, you go 333 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: back to like when white men were dominant and all 334 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: that stuff. I think that a lot of this is 335 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: that we don't we don't want to acknowledge progress because 336 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: it's not it's not it's not. There's behoove people in 337 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: power to acknowledge progress. I think they always want to 338 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: be able to say, hey, this group, they deserve repercussions, 339 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: come up weapons for their past dominance. And that's why 340 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't think this will ever stop, because there's always 341 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: going to be this mindset. Hey, they had their turn, 342 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: now it's this group's turn. And I just think such 343 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: a dangerous way to go about society. I mean, because 344 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: there's no end in sights and never end in treadmill, 345 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: where there's always going to be group weaponized as Okay, 346 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: they're the focus, they're marginalized today. I mean, there's no 347 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: end in sight with it. 348 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: It seems like when we used to talk about diversity, though, 349 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: and when you had the progressive side of the country 350 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: coming out and saying you know, we need to make 351 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: sure that your companies are diverse. That was because people 352 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: were looking at folks and saying, you know, I'll go 353 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: with this person over this person based on their outward appearance, 354 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: which is generally connected to race or ethnicity, whereas now 355 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: diversity is not about that at all. It's about your sexuality, 356 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: which is something you would imagine as not something you 357 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: outwardly see from the person. 358 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: But it's like if you come out. 359 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean I think even recently on I was watching 360 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: the Morning Show and we're like, you know, if you 361 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: come out as buy, you have a better chance of 362 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: getting a promotion. And I thought, this is actually accurate. 363 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: If you're coming out and telling someone your sexuality, you 364 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: have a better chance of surpassing. 365 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: Someone in a career. How bizarre has this to become? 366 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: Oh, there's no question. 367 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: I mean you talk to like TV agents and network executives, 368 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean they will be very open, like off the record, 369 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: around the background, like hey, we just cannot hire a 370 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: white male for this position, or we might not even 371 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: be able to hire a white woman. 372 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 4: We need to go diversity here. 373 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: And that's why you see press releases all the time 374 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: will say like first African American women, or they'll mention 375 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: their race right off the bat, just to make it 376 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: clear that they hired for diversity and tutor. I always 377 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: go back to fifteen years ago, John went to the market. 378 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: You would say, hey, John, your neighbor went to the market. 379 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: Now it's about John who is a straight white conservative male, 380 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: or John who is a non binary black man. That 381 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: middle part has become so crucial because it's about identity. 382 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 4: Right. 383 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: Is that your name and your personality in your past 384 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: experiences matter less than they identify your identification in the 385 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: groups that you belong to now. And that's where this 386 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: is all heading, right, is that when you like LinkedIn 387 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: now is allowing recruiters to search for job cannis by 388 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: race and. 389 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: By Are you serious? 390 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 391 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Daily Wire reported two weeks ago. So if you're 392 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: if you're a big company and you you want I 393 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: don't know a black woman or a non binary white person, 394 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: you can go search that now. So your credentials matter 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: much less than your identity. 396 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean, think about that for the majority of the country, 397 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: because if we're being honest, the majority of the country 398 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: does not fall within that category. And once again, you 399 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: have minorities. According to race, who are going to be 400 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: passed over for someone who is in a minority based 401 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: on what they do in the bedroom, which you talk 402 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: about celebrating this. I mean, just in the last week, 403 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: we've been celebrating Karine Jean Pierre and her the fact 404 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: that she's got a year as the White House spokesperson 405 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: as a lesbian woman. 406 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: This is like big news. 407 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I got probably four breaking news articles on 408 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: the day of like this is the day we're celebrating. 409 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: This is amazing. I don't actually want to know what 410 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: she does in her bedroom. I don't want to think 411 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: about it at all. 412 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: And I go back to that saying fifteen years ago, 413 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: I never wondered, And now it's at the forefront of 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: every conversation, right, Like, that's not progress, that's not making 415 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: us a more inclusive society. We're actually becoming more exclusive 416 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: because we're all getting put into separate groups and tribalism 417 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: has just escalated over this stuff. And you're so right 418 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: about that, Like why does that matter? Is she a 419 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: good precious secretary or if she's not? I mean, the 420 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: answer is no. But I'd much rather have that be 421 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: the conversation than what she does in the bedroom because 422 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: a lot of press secretaries in the past we never 423 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: wondered that, we never care, But now it matters so much, 424 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: and that's not progress to me, that's us going backwards. 425 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, and by that rate, you could have somebody who 426 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: has had the most training in something is excellent in 427 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: their career, is some sort of a savant in engineering, 428 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: but you know they are heterosexual, so they're just going 429 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: to be looked over. I mean, how bizarre is it 430 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: that you have to worry about telling people what you 431 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: do in your bedroom because it may not be desirable 432 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: to your company. 433 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: How did we even get here? 434 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 4: All right? 435 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's so interesting about this is all these big 436 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: corporations train employees right away to like never ask about 437 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: sexual As soon as you join a big corporation, you 438 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: take these sexual harassment classes, like don't you dare ask 439 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: somebody what they do in the bedroom. But publicly and 440 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: politically we will ask the question, how does. 441 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: That make sense? 442 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: By the way, I've asked that question quite a few 443 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: times because none of it does make sense. 444 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: None of it's supposed to make sense. 445 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I find that so bizarre that 446 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: you can't ask somebody about that in the workplace, but 447 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: behind the scenes, every executive wants to know what they're 448 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: doing in the bedroom. 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that you say that, because I 450 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: came out of the election and started talking to folks 451 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: and had somebody come to me and say, oh, i'd 452 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: really like you to work for the company that I own. 453 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 2: I want you to sit down with the CEO. And 454 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: so I sit down with the CEO and he looks 455 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: at me and he says, yeah, you know, I'm sorry. 456 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: You just such a loud Republican now already knows that. 457 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: So we have Democrats at our customers, we really can't 458 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: hire you and I and in my mind, I thought, 459 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: are you really allowed to tell someone in an interview 460 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: based on your political status? We cannot your political beliefs. 461 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: You are someone we cannot have at our company. But 462 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: here it's like, how do you identify what's going on 463 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: in your bedroom? Because that'll depend on whether or not 464 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: we bring you a board. But if you're a Republican, 465 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: you're out of here. 466 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. I know. 467 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: I have a friend who works at a sports network 468 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: and he's a white guy, and he's thirty five, and 469 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of opportunity for straight white guys. 470 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, well, if you put 471 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: Day and them in your bio and say you're non 472 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: buying aary, I mean, what to increase your chance to be? 473 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden you're a warrior, You're setting 474 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: a trend and all that. But it is true because 475 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: I say that jokingly, but I do believe little stuff 476 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: like that can make a huge difference, or not little, 477 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: but identity has become the top qualification across corporate America. 478 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: And once you get to that point, I mean, you 479 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: just have a system that's failing because the best people 480 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: are not getting their positions. 481 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: Now. 482 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: I know people always fire back and say, oh, it's 483 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: always been like that, never quite like this. Never before 484 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: has your identification, what you do in the bedroom, and 485 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: your appearance mattered so much. I mean, what you look like, 486 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: how you were born, technically can now determine the entire 487 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: success of your career. And that is so unfortunate for 488 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: hard working people who were born unfortunately maybe white and 489 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: they are straight. I mean, what are they supposed to 490 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: do if you're twelve years old right now and you're 491 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: a white male and you want to work in a 492 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: fortune five hundred company, what do you do because chances 493 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: are your identification is going to be held against you. 494 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 495 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. It's almost as though these companies 496 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: really don't get what they're putting out there because it's 497 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: really not easily consumable by much of the public. Much 498 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: of the public doesn't really I mean, this doesn't impact 499 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: their lives, it doesn't resonate, it's not a big deal. 500 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: So I'll pick on the movie Bros. 501 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: For example, because that movie came out and it did 502 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: horribly at the box office, and there was like all 503 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: of this news that people are so homophobic they didn't 504 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: go see the movie Bros. And it was funny because 505 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: one of the folks working on the campaign at the 506 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: time was gay, and he said to me, I can 507 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: tell you why Bros. 508 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Didn't work. He was like, think about it. 509 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: Romantic comedies are made for women because women love to 510 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: like put themselves in that mindset of Oh I could 511 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: have that same life. 512 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: It was like, dudes hate romantic comedies. I'm a dude, 513 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm gay. 514 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 2: Still don't want to go see a romantic comedy, Like 515 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: that's not your audience. But the news was, oh my gosh, 516 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: people didn't go see this. Well, dudes don't go see 517 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: movies like that. You know, why are they not getting this? 518 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 519 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that goes back to our initial conversation. What 520 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: it's not knowing your audience, not knowing your customers, knowing 521 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: your consumers, and when you reject them and prioritize pr 522 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: and critical acclaim, those are the end results and all 523 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: this stuff has failed. I mean, I hate cliches. I 524 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: think they're lazy, but like the phrase go won't go 525 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: broke actually has a lot of merit because what that 526 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: really means is a company is catering to not their 527 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: active consumers, but a group that doesn't like them. And 528 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: that You've seen Disney do that, You've seen the NBA 529 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: do that, you see so many cable news channels do that. 530 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a recipe for a disaster. And 531 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: that example you gave Bros. It hits it right in 532 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: the nose. Guys don't want to see that. So if 533 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: that's what you're appealing to, you're going to fail. I 534 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: always say status has or placed success, and the end 535 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: results are just a fracture marketplace where content is not 536 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: made for the vast, vast majority of society at large. 537 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: So we don't see a lot of foreign companies doing 538 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: this At this point, we don't see a lot of 539 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: foreign beerers doing this. This seems to be in a 540 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: mayor company type of things. So does a Miller, does 541 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: Anheuser Bush? Do these companies come back from this? Is 542 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: there any return for them? 543 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: I think Miller Light and bud Light are uniquely vulnerable 544 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: because there's so many beer options right Like, if Nike 545 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: or under Armoured do this and they have, it's harder 546 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: to just say I'm not going to buy Nike or 547 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm not going to buy under Armour. It's very easy 548 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: to go to bar and choose another beer other than 549 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: Miller or bud Light. So they're gonna have a much 550 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: harder time coming back from this stuff. You've seen history 551 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: says a lot of times it takes a long time. 552 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: Late night shows have never come back from their rejection 553 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: of society at large. So do I think things will 554 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: normalize some? Do I think bud Light will rebound from 555 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: its downward trajectory? 556 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: Yes? 557 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't know that bud Light's ever going to get 558 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: back to where they were because people are creatures have 559 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: had this. Once they make a change, they often don't 560 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 3: undo that change. So that people who have given up 561 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: bud Light and in favor of a new beer, I 562 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: think they're most likely just going to stay drinking that 563 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: new beer because it's probably not all that different after 564 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: you drink it for one month straight. At so many 565 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: blue collar people have done. 566 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, bud Light is struggling significantly. We're seeing them give 567 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: out rebates. They're trying desperately to get people back. Did 568 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: this teach other companies anything? I mean, obviously also Disney. 569 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: We've seen DeSantis go after Disney. We've also seen a 570 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: lot of people say, you know what, I'm just done 571 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: with Disney. Plus they're starting to do some weird things. 572 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: They're pushing weird stuff on my kids, and you know what, 573 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: I can pick something else. There are other cartoons out there. 574 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: Do companies start to learn from this and say, you 575 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: know what, we're just going to stop the political messaging. 576 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: I'm hopeful. 577 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: I mean, Netflix is the best example, and Netflix leaned 578 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: into all this stuff pretty aggressively, and over the past 579 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: year and a half they've taken the opposite approach. They 580 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: doubled down on Dave Chappelle. They doubled down on Chris 581 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: Rock and they send out memos to employees saying, hey, 582 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: if you're offended, you leave. We're not going to just 583 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: tell people they can't have this opinion, particularly in the 584 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: case of Dave Chappelle. And I don't think people have 585 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: focused enough on this. Netflix is actually adding subscribers. They 586 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: did last quarter. I don't know about this quarter, but 587 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: they went under a quote unquote woke reversal to great success. 588 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: So I hope more people look at Netflix and see, hey, 589 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: we don't need to cater to these people because they're unappeasable. 590 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: We're never going to impress them. Why don't we just 591 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 3: ignore them? Marisa's study from Freebeacon came out that only 592 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: eight percent of the electorate actually agrees with the woke 593 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: movement or what woke has come to mean. So if 594 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: you just ignore them, there's no bad business repercussions because 595 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: so little people. 596 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: Actually, I don't get why not just ignore it exactly? 597 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: Why not just focus on who you or your clients are. 598 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: Because that eight percent makes up a large percent of 599 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: Twitter and the corporate press and most. 600 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: People and a lot of the creativity. 601 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: They don't have the backbone to withstand thirty six hours 602 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: of mean tweets and hit pieces from the New York 603 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: Times Washington Post. Because if you can withstand those thirty 604 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: six hours, they'll move on and go to a new target. 605 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: But most executives can't do that. They're too fragile, they're 606 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: too cowardly, and too afraid that if they're the target, 607 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: they'll go down. But at some point you have to 608 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 3: be confident that enough people are going to say, hey, 609 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: let them tweet that, let them write that, We're not 610 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: going to change our business for this small radical subsection 611 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: of society. 612 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at CNN, because they are obviously 613 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: the network that is now in decline. They have tried 614 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: several times to say, oh, we're going back to the middle, 615 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: we want to just be non biased news. They have 616 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: this town hall with Donald Trump and they're literally crying. 617 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: The next day, you've got Anderson Cooper like, I don't I. 618 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Don't know what happened. We feel so bad. This is disgusting, 619 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you know what is going on? I mean, Newsmas beat 620 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: them out this week. This is big news. 621 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Newsmax said higher numbers than CNN, and that to me 622 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: means people are saying, you know what, I really am 623 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: going the opposite direction of the woke NBC CNN type 624 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: of news. So is this an opportunity for people to 625 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: come in and just share news on from a regular, 626 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: non bias standpoint, or is CNN going to get the 627 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: lesson or are they going to continue to cry into 628 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: their cheerios about everything that happens on the right? 629 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh, you're still right, and the congratulations and my friends 630 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: at Newsmags have a lot of friends there. What an accomplishment, 631 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean, just you know, relatively an upstart cable news 632 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: network for most people, just to beat CNN, which has 633 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: been around longer than any other cable news network. Props 634 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: to them. What a change and tied there is. But 635 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm actually less optimistic when it comes to CNN because 636 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: tutor CNN finds itself in such a bizarre, unique situation 637 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: where the left is now mad at them for going 638 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: back to the middle. CEO Chris Lick said two months ago. 639 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: He goes, I can't believe all the left wing vitriol 640 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: we're getting for prioritizing journalism first, but really you're not surprised. 641 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: But on the other hand, the right says, Hey, these 642 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: people were against us for the least the past five years, 643 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: probably the last. Sure there's new management, but we don't 644 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: trust them because of who they employ. They still employ 645 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: Shake Tapper, Anderson Cooper, Loria Coos, Breonna Kyler. So I 646 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: think it right now CNN doesn't have either side, the 647 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: less mad at them, the right still mad at them. 648 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: And there's so small number of people who are in 649 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: the middle, who just want straight news. So I think 650 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: CNN's problems are only beginning. I don't see a solution 651 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: for Chris Lick in discovery management. I think CNN is 652 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: going to continue hemorrhaging viewers until they find an identity 653 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: because right now they're in a crisis. We're all size. Also, 654 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: their employees all hate the brand. 655 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: We see interesting things happening with MSNBC, CNN, Fox, Everything 656 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: right now seems to have a little bit of shift 657 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: in change in it. But we are also seeing places 658 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: like BuzzFeed and Vice closed down. 659 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: Do one of the big networks not make it? Does 660 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: it go to just two? 661 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: I don't see that happening. 662 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: But I do think the media marketplace is becoming more 663 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: and more fractured. I think one of the big questions 664 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: is what does the next star and media look like? 665 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: Meaning what platform are they on? Because I would say 666 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson has been the biggest star in media the 667 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: past five years. He's now going to Twitter. Is Twitter 668 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: going to host the biggest star or is it going 669 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: to be someone like Ben Shapiro who makes a lot 670 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: of money on Facebook and YouTube and Apple podcasts. I 671 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: don't think cable news is going away, but it's much 672 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: more fractured because of these digital players. You talk to 673 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: so many people out and about they don't even watch 674 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: news on TV. They're getting it on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter 675 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: or rumble or maybe now Twitter. So I don't see 676 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: cable news going away, but I think it's going to 677 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: be a diminished form to what it was even two 678 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: three years ago, particularly what it was during the Trump administration. 679 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: Or OutKick So tell us about where people can find your. 680 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: Stuff, yeah, or OutKick, right, I mean you can just 681 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: cut the cord and get right to OutKick, but yeah, 682 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: OutKick dot com. I'm there pretty much every day writing 683 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: about stuff and yeah, come check it out. And by 684 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: the way, we're big fans of yours and congratulations on 685 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: all your success. 686 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 687 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and thank you for coming on. Bobby Burak, 688 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: please check him out at OutKick. He's writing all the 689 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: time and he's a Michigan and er, so you know 690 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: that everything he does is amazing, just like everybody in Michigan. 691 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: But thank you so much for being on today. 692 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and thank you all for joining me 693 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others. 694 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: As always, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe 695 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: right there, or go to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. 696 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: Or wherever you get your podcasts. 697 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: Make sure you join me next time on the Tutor 698 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: Dixon Podcasts and have an awesome day.