WEBVTT - #586 Packers Unscripted: Back at it

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted

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<v Speaker 1>colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We are you, your fully vaccinated host,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what allows us to be back here

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio without wearing masks. Weston. It's really good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you right across the table here, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>for well one, all the Skype episodes that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I did, all the recordings of this the socially distanced season. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in here with Larry to do three things and

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the masks even when we do final thoughts, wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the mask. What a relief this has been. And I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give credit to the wonderful nurses everybody here from

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<v Speaker 1>Bellin that that took care of me, took care of

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<v Speaker 1>my family over the past month, and just blessed and

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate as we prepare for an NFL draft this year,

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<v Speaker 1>my because we recap free agency today, Just what a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum leap we've made from last year when I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make sure I had enough bandwidth to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to stream video on my home WiFi so we

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<v Speaker 1>could do our jobs appropriately. That's right, well, we really

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<v Speaker 1>are turning over a new leaf here. In one we

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<v Speaker 1>had new intro music here for Packers unscripted, first time

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've changed that in in quite sometime. But as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, we do have a lot of off season

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<v Speaker 1>to recap here for the Packers, so we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>start there and later this week early next week we

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<v Speaker 1>will also get into previewing the NFL Draft, which as

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<v Speaker 1>of now is nine days away for the the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as the off season goes, a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of guys back with the Green Bay Packers West and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just rattle off their names here. Aaron Jones, Kevin King,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcedes Lewis, Tyler Lancaster, Will Redman all resigned with the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers. The biggest headline there, though, of those

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<v Speaker 1>five guys, has to be running back Aaron Jones, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy he wasn't just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the top running back available in free agency. He was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be one of the top free agents across

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<v Speaker 1>the board in the league available if the Packers had

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<v Speaker 1>let it get to that point. They did not Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>A huge part of this Matt Lafleur offense is back

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<v Speaker 1>in the fold long term now for Green Bay. So

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<v Speaker 1>all these years in which we've had free agency, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of looked at the board, how it was

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<v Speaker 1>laying out, and and very very infrequently is there a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where it's like, Okay, there's a player that you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Packers will bring back that they just can't

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<v Speaker 1>get back. For me, it was Aaron Jones this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now certainly went right up until the eleventh hour, right

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<v Speaker 1>until the verge of free agency before he agreed to terms.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you sit back, Mike, you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he has added to this Packers offense and how he

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<v Speaker 1>has every single year been in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>increased his rushing totals, increased his flexibility as a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is more than what his position said. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a playmaker, and he's the second biggest playmaker in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense, second only to four time Pro bowler now

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<v Speaker 1>finally an All Pro receiver in Davante Adams. So to

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<v Speaker 1>have him back in the multitude of ways that Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur utilized him over the past two years, it just

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<v Speaker 1>made too much sense. Now, I think what the exciting

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to be now for the Packers is

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<v Speaker 1>how do you expand on what this guy does because

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the prime now, twenty six years young. This

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<v Speaker 1>is that where you really expect him to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the peak of his years. I just think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>massive opportunity there. He'll have a new running mate in

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<v Speaker 1>a J. Dillon. But as far as the face of

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<v Speaker 1>that Packers backfield, Mike, this is the most stability they've

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<v Speaker 1>had their going back to really the Almond Green days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because Aaron Jones was here when Matt Lafleur arrived, obviously, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're there are all kinds of ways in which

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<v Speaker 1>coaches adjust their scheme and their systems to fit the

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<v Speaker 1>personnel they have. But that being said, you almost can't

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<v Speaker 1>raw up a running back who fits Matt Lafleur's offense

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<v Speaker 1>better than Aaron Jones. And that's what I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>all through last season when everybody was wondering, are the

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<v Speaker 1>Packer is going to be able to bring back Aaron Jones?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the free agent priorities? And we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the guys who are not back in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment here, and for me, Aaron Jones was the number

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<v Speaker 1>one priority in terms of resigning your own free agents

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<v Speaker 1>because of how he fits La Fleur's offense and what

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<v Speaker 1>he brings to the table in in all those different

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<v Speaker 1>skills he he just he brings more than any other

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<v Speaker 1>running back you could ask for, and to lose him

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<v Speaker 1>would have been to lose not just a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>but but such a big, such a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>the offense. Now, as you said, he is in his prime.

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<v Speaker 1>He is hitting full stride here. So what are the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers going to do to expand the ways that they

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<v Speaker 1>use him? We could see him, We've already seen him

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<v Speaker 1>line up in a lot of different ways, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that starts to expand with a j. Dillon now coming

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<v Speaker 1>into his own a little bit more as the second

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<v Speaker 1>year and the number two running back um based on

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<v Speaker 1>the way the roster currently sits. So I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see now exactly you know what the plan is

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<v Speaker 1>for Aaron Jones moving forward, because I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>some things that maybe we haven't seen yet. Absolutely, And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this has been a guy that's been defying

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<v Speaker 1>the definition that everybody's put on him in his game

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<v Speaker 1>since he entered the league back in two thousand seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a fifth round draft pick. But here's the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I love about him. And you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million moments with Aaron Jones you can say, Okay, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else can do that. This is a guy, this is special.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I was ever on the fence about as

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna be back or they canna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>pay him, you know, do you pay a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>It was that first play, I believe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first play coming out a halftime against the Rams where

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<v Speaker 1>he bust the sixty yard in the playoff game, And

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were sitting there watching that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just said to myself, I'm like, there are so few

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<v Speaker 1>human beings that can just change the complexion of a

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<v Speaker 1>football game the way that he just did that. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't I don't think Wayne was shouting that's your dagger

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that up in the radio booth, but

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<v Speaker 1>it really felt like, Yeah, this is the Packers day,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna take this one. And that's that's what he brings,

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<v Speaker 1>that game breaking aspect. And then just a quick shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to A J. Dillon. I mean, these are huge

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<v Speaker 1>shoes for him to fill. With Jamal Williams moving on

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<v Speaker 1>to Detroit, This is a guy that never fumbled during

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<v Speaker 1>his four years in Green Bay, was a consummate pro

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, was a fantastic pass protector and

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<v Speaker 1>ball catcher out of the backfield. But A J. Dillon,

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<v Speaker 1>when you saw he did against the Titans last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it just really opened my eyes to the possible thunder

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<v Speaker 1>enlightening combination that him and Aaron Jones can be. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's an overplayed cliche, but if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>that six ft five ft nine two oh eight or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever Aaron Jones comes in at, those are two drastically

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<v Speaker 1>different running backs that the Packers could use in tandem.

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<v Speaker 1>They can alternate if you add in a number three

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<v Speaker 1>back through this draft or undraft free agency. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many options here that Green Bay could explore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well. Maybe an unexpected move in free agency was

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<v Speaker 1>the resigning of Kevin King. I think when the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>did sign Aaron Jones, there was a lot of thought

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<v Speaker 1>that Kevin King was not a guy the Packers were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to afford. Turns out they did

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back on a one year deal, So the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers will have essentially their top three corners from last

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<v Speaker 1>year are back. Intact that, you know, the nickel package

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<v Speaker 1>that they used last year, j R. Alexander, Kevin King,

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<v Speaker 1>Channon Sullivan, will I'll be back. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>real headline as far as the guys coming back, is

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<v Speaker 1>the big Dog Marcedes Lewis sixteen. This will be his

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth season now in the NFL. And this is really

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<v Speaker 1>quite a story West because his first year here two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eighteen, the last year of the Mike McCarthy era,

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<v Speaker 1>and after it looked like Marcedes Lewis was heading off

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<v Speaker 1>into the sunset, It's like, all right, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the next chapter in life. And not only did he

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<v Speaker 1>decide to come back play for Matt Lafleur. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've found this role for him both in the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a tremendous role in the locker room. And

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<v Speaker 1>now here we are three years later and he just

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<v Speaker 1>got another contract and he's still going. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff, all these guys on this roster are

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled that the Big Dog is back for another goal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what he reminds me of who he reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of. You remember Juwan Howard during his final years

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<v Speaker 1>of the NBA. He went to Miami Heat and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a big part of what they did there. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a guy that was playing thirty minutes at night anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a great locker room presence, a great leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's turned into a phenomenal college coach, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also gave them important minutes when he needed them. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, Okay, I'm not gonna have you give you

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<v Speaker 1>thirty anymore, but I'm gonna give you eleven good minutes

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<v Speaker 1>here and there when when I'm needed. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis reminds me of. If you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>any profession, doesn't have to be the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>could be your even your normal job. How do you last?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you find ways to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning and still enjoy what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to evolve, you have to reinvent yourself. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to set new goals. That's what I love about

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Lewis. What is the one thread? Since he was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in the first round in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a huge human being that is a willing blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>If he ate a couple too many Big Max on

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<v Speaker 1>a certain week, this guy could be a tackle in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. I mean, he's that big of a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was also an incredibly athletic and gifted individual

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<v Speaker 1>in his prime. It's why he was able to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a Pro Bowl in two thousand and ten and

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<v Speaker 1>caught seven receiving yards passes. But now he's older, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six range. You have to adapt your game, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has done that. In the best part about it, he

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he's playing a position other than quarterback or kicker

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<v Speaker 1>where they're just trump constantly trying to replace tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. Guys, come, guys, go, there's no replacing

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Lewis. Whenever he decides to move on, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be able to say, Okay, well this six

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<v Speaker 1>ft six, two seventy pound guy, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next guy. You have to have a certain skill

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<v Speaker 1>set that matches up with his physical attributes. Lewis brings that.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, much like some of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen over there, is he's still chasing that

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ring. He's still chasing that Super Bowl appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>and he feels like this is the place to get

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<v Speaker 1>that done. Yeah, no question about it. Well, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the Packers players who are not back who have

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<v Speaker 1>signed elsewhere, Corey Lindsley, Jamal Williams, Tim Boyle, Lane Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>and Montravius Adams, And we talked a little bit already.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I want to start here with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Corey Lindsley and Lane Taylor both gone.

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<v Speaker 1>We know David Bakti is working on the rehab from

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<v Speaker 1>the a c L injury. Everybody's trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what what's the Packers offensive line gonna look like in

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<v Speaker 1>Week one? You know, does Elton Jenkins play center and

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<v Speaker 1>take over for Lindsley? Does Jenkins play left tackle? Does

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Turner play left tackle? And Jenkins, you know, stay

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<v Speaker 1>where he is and you put somebody else at right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important thing I think moving forward here for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers is they have options because you have versatile players,

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<v Speaker 1>and you also have a draft coming up where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of depth that offensive tackle in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>based on what the analysts are saying, you would think

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are going to potentially make a significant draft

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<v Speaker 1>investment there at that position. So we're a long way

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<v Speaker 1>from knowing what the Packers offensive line is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like in Week one, but it is gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different in yeah, because for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time really since J. C. Trader was drafted, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>don't have like a center prospect of a bona fide

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's like, okay, that's who we want snapping Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the coaches might know that behind the scenes, but

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<v Speaker 1>as far as how we're approaching this season, we we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know which direction that's gonna go. I made my

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<v Speaker 1>two cents felt an inbox. You know, I would think

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<v Speaker 1>even if David bat is ready, the Packers are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to be cautious with them. They're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>er on the side of caution. Is I continually said,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know the way that Bats built cut from

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<v Speaker 1>that same cloth as Brian Bulaga. He's gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>be out there as soon as possible. But there is

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<v Speaker 1>again you have to see the forest for the trees here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say they just take the cautious approach there with Box.

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<v Speaker 1>Tr To me, after seeing what he did last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Elton Jenkins is a perfect fit to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to buy you time there at left tackle. I

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<v Speaker 1>really truly believe this, Mike. I think if Billy Turner

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<v Speaker 1>is just playing right tackle, I honestly believe he could

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<v Speaker 1>be an All Pro player in this league. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that last year. I had some questions when he came

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<v Speaker 1>in at right guard, didn't quite look like his natural position.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they left him at right tackle, once he

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<v Speaker 1>settled into that job last year, you'd be hard pressed

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<v Speaker 1>to find anyone who did their job better. I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has the athleticisms, letticism for it, the footwork,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's intelligent from there. I think that lines up

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas Patrick to be at center. I think you have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, John Runyon as a guard prospect and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy not to forget about in this equation, stimonds

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Stepanek. Now, he missed all last year because of

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<v Speaker 1>that coming off the a c L injury at Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember, this kid put up thirty seven bench

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<v Speaker 1>reps at the combine that with with a bumne. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the most of anyone in the modern era that

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have drafted. That was more than Corey Linsley.

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<v Speaker 1>That was more than although it wasn't at the combine

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Lancaster. This guy is a strong dude. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great starting point for where you're at, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you factor in The Packers have had a really good

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<v Speaker 1>track record of drafting offensive lineman early, drafting them high,

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<v Speaker 1>and having them make an incidant impact. So I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this over and over again. I mentioned it during our

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<v Speaker 1>offseason recap show. It Larry to me, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's the first round, second Whenever you pick the

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<v Speaker 1>best offensive lineman possible, you let him compete for a

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<v Speaker 1>job at a specific position and let the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the dominoes fall from there because the versatility of that

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<v Speaker 1>group can be a real strength. Yeah, And what I

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<v Speaker 1>said an insider inbox the other day, what I think

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<v Speaker 1>really ultimately is going to be the question that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers coaches face. Assuming David Batr is not lining up

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<v Speaker 1>at left tackle in Week one and he needs some

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<v Speaker 1>more time to be ready, the question that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be facing the Packers coaching staff is for week one,

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<v Speaker 1>do you focus on getting your five best offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>out there or how much do you consider the whole

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<v Speaker 1>continuity aspect of things? Because if Elton Jenkins start this

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<v Speaker 1>starts the season at left tackle, presumably he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to play left tackle all season. When bok Tr is ready,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes there, and then Jenkins shifts, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving things around at some point after the season starts.

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<v Speaker 1>So is is it about the five best or is

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<v Speaker 1>it about the least disruption when Bostr comes back. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the question that the Packers coaches have to answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what their answer is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily based on what we saw last year, the versatility

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<v Speaker 1>players moving guys around, it seemed the overwhelming philosophy was

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<v Speaker 1>with what we've got to deal with, We're putting our

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<v Speaker 1>best five guys out there in front of Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the way they're going to go. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just throw it out there that the continuity part

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<v Speaker 1>things over the course of now a seventeen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that I think you at least have to consider. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and behind the scenes, I mean, the Packers are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get David Botr back at some point early middle whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be back, and you're gonna have the best

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle in football to playoff of the question, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that the coaches are gonna have to answer again,

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<v Speaker 1>and the meetings that you and I will not be

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<v Speaker 1>privy to assume, meetings that we will not have a

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<v Speaker 1>log in for, is gonna be what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>with Elton Jenkins Because the reason I mentioned him at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackles because the one thing that Elton proved to

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<v Speaker 1>me last year, it doesn't matter where you play him.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how many snaps he gets. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>perform well in that duty. And it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 1>the competition is. It's the guy that started the season

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle. Because of the injury questions there, he

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in at center for three weeks. Mike Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>has basically had the same two centers for the past

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<v Speaker 1>eight years. When you look at bulk of that being

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Lensley and a little bit of it being j. C. Treader,

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins went in there and it was like not

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<v Speaker 1>a step was missed. And this is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>subbing in for an All Pro or who is deemed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Associated Press to be the best center in

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<v Speaker 1>football last year. So that's why I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a luxury that Green Bay has right now

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then again to Lucas Patrick's Lucas Patrick's

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<v Speaker 1>credit can play all three the interior positions. Billy Turner

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<v Speaker 1>can play everywhere as well. A lot of different potential

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<v Speaker 1>domino combinations here for Green Bay. Yeah, and quickly before

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<v Speaker 1>we move on to some other offseason news, Jamal Williams

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Boyle both going to the division rival Detroit Lyons.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially what that does? We already talked about Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>a J. Dillon as the one to at running back

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<v Speaker 1>to Packers obviously have Aaron Rodgers Jordan's Love as the

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<v Speaker 1>one two at quarterback, but now the number three spot

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<v Speaker 1>at both of those positions is essentially wide open for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. They need a number three quarterback. Will they

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<v Speaker 1>use a late round draft pick on one? Will they

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<v Speaker 1>go the undrafted route as they did with when they

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<v Speaker 1>brought Tim Boyle in a few years ago. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as running back, you have a handful of candidates on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster for the number three running back, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you also draft one at some point here in a

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half to add to that competition to

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<v Speaker 1>see who's going to be that number three behind Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and Dylan. So some interesting things to watch here at

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<v Speaker 1>those two positions. As as a couple of very reliable

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<v Speaker 1>guys end up going to a division rival in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>First and foremost, to tip my cap to the Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought those are two of the best signings that

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<v Speaker 1>have been made of the NFC, not just the division,

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<v Speaker 1>this office and kind of signings that went under the radar,

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<v Speaker 1>frankly under the rains of the national in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the national media. But but yeah, I I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those I think those are really really good

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<v Speaker 1>pickups for the Detroit Lions with what they're trying to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the contract that Jamal Williams got reportedly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just what an incredible deal in savings that is for Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've said this time and time again and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it once more. I know DeAndre Swifts there, I

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<v Speaker 1>know all these other things. My advice to Detroit Lions

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<v Speaker 1>is make Jamal Williams. Give him a good opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>be your lead back next year. You won't be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as Tim Boyle, everyone knows my feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about Tim Boyle, what an amazing story he's been. But

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that one blogger, one one fan site for

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<v Speaker 1>the lines of saying as Jared Goff the best quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>now in the NFC North, and obviously they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all tongue in cheek. I get that, But the

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<v Speaker 1>Lion is better make sure that he's their best quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster because I still I've said it time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again, I think Tim Boyle is going to

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<v Speaker 1>open some eyes. He has the arm, he has a size,

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<v Speaker 1>he has everything you look for in an NFL quarterback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do want to talk about the two big changes on

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff here for the Packers. Two new coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Berry brought in as defensive coordinator to replace Mike Patton,

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<v Speaker 1>and Moe Drayton promoted from special teams assistant to spell

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<v Speaker 1>teams coordinator to replace Sean Meninga. Just your initial impressions

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<v Speaker 1>here of these moves and uh and when they were

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to the Green Bay media. Yeah, and I was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was driving through like northern Wisconsin, like like north

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<v Speaker 1>of Rhinelander. I was that the day you went up

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<v Speaker 1>to Superior. Yeah. I was in the middle of road trip. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I but I made it a point. Mike was

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<v Speaker 1>being very nice. The age of zoom, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the fact that we can do all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff remotely. Mike handled all the coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches that day, but I still listened. I stopped over

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<v Speaker 1>at the Culver's in Rhine Landers so I could start

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Joe Barry Country. Yeah, and I was so impressed,

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<v Speaker 1>not only by him and how he spoke and all

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but when you take a step back and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at his resume, don't look at just the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator stints. Look at his entire resume, working with

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<v Speaker 1>Monty Kiffin, his you know, his work with I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's his father in law. But I've always had an

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<v Speaker 1>immense respect for Rod Marinelli. You've heard me talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he renovated Dallas's defense there in the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand tents um and then obviously now the scheme and

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 1>system of defense that they've been running in in l

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<v Speaker 1>A when it was Wade Phillips, and now obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>transition this past year, there is such a unique blend

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<v Speaker 1>of philosophies that have been incorporated into berries in his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's gonna be his own man, He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be his own coach. But when you are immersed in

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<v Speaker 1>that type of not only that scheme, but the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of talent he's been around, I just I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you sit back and you look at where this talent

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<v Speaker 1>level is at. For Green Bay again, a top ten

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<v Speaker 1>defense last season, first time they've done that since the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl year in two thousand and ten, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>I think the possibilities are endless. I'm really I I

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<v Speaker 1>we all know what the pieces are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers defense. How do you move them? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you get the most out of him? How are

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<v Speaker 1>you able to get you know, the Smith Bros. Going

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<v Speaker 1>back again, What is the next step for Gyr Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside, Darniell Savage? What kind of weapon can

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<v Speaker 1>this guy be? In Mr? Consistency Adrian Amos, There are

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<v Speaker 1>just I think the possibilities are undless for that defense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've been saying, I don't see this as something

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a major defensive overhaul. It wasn't. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that that's not to say the defense

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<v Speaker 1>is going to look exactly the same under Joe Berry.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not something where we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>spending the off season and training camp talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I don't think we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about this, this transition to the new playbook

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. Yes, there are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>some things that are different, but this is not going

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:33.159
<v Speaker 1>to be some completely different scheme. One thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed about Joe Berry, and he mentioned it when he

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with the Green Bay Media, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I wrote about that day, is that you look

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<v Speaker 1>at you look at his track record. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's been everywhere in the NFL, from the penthouse

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to the outhouse. He's been on a coaching staff that

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.679
<v Speaker 1>won a Super Bowl. He's been on a coaching staff

0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>that lost every single game during a season. And but

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 1>we're undefeated in the preseason. But to his to his credit,

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 1>he you know, he's not he's not dodging the failures

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that he's had along the way, and he's like, hey,

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>those failures, those rough moments are what made me a

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.719
<v Speaker 1>better coach. Yes, going to Super Bowls, which he's been

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<v Speaker 1>to a couple, he's won one. Those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you enjoy. Those are those are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are really going to be the you know, the lasting memories.

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<v Speaker 1>But the moments that make you a better coach are

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<v Speaker 1>when things don't go well in this league and you've

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to you've got to figure it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was I was really interested to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>he had to say about that, because he wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to dodge, you know, the downtimes in Detroit and Washington

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<v Speaker 1>when he was when he was on the defensive staff,

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<v Speaker 1>was the defensive coordinator there, and is he said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud of my scars. I love that line. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the line of the press conference. I know everybody pulled

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<v Speaker 1>that out as the top quote. It was true. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to take a step back, if you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to perseverate about the defensive coordinator stints, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the talent level, Look at how many Pro bowlers

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<v Speaker 1>around those teams in Detroit, Look at what he was

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with in Washington. This is a new agenda. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been given a five course dinner that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting in front of now and it's your opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to finally go to work. Yeah, and as far as Drayton,

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<v Speaker 1>that special teams coordinator, this isn't this, This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is almost just as big a higher as defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>With as much as the Packers struggled on special teams

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, not really any return game to speak of,

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<v Speaker 1>too many explosive plays in the in the return game.

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<v Speaker 1>The other way, Mo Drayton has a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to do. This is in some sense as a risky

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<v Speaker 1>hire for Matt Lafleur because he promoted somebody from within

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<v Speaker 1>who was part of the struggles last year in the

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<v Speaker 1>season instead of going outside and bringing somebody into to

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<v Speaker 1>completely start over. So there's a lot of people questioning

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<v Speaker 1>that decision. I'll just I'll just say this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said this an insider inbox as well. Nobody was doing

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<v Speaker 1>nationally speaking, fan base speaking, nobody was doing a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of cartwheels. And Nathaniel Hackett was the became the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator when Adam Stanovich became the offensive line coach. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at what those guys have done now on Matt Lafleur's staff,

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<v Speaker 1>Guys that he had some connections with that he that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew. Okay, Matt Lafleur worked with Joe Berry with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. He's seen Mo Drayton up close the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years as he was um the assistant on

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<v Speaker 1>special Teams. We just we have to we have to

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<v Speaker 1>give Matt Lafleur's I for coaching talent, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>chance here to see to see if he's right before

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<v Speaker 1>we start, you know, making a whole bunch of judgments

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<v Speaker 1>about these hires. That again, nobody, nobody was jumping up

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<v Speaker 1>and down about Joe Berry and Moe Drayton, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had hires like that. He's had hires in the

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<v Speaker 1>past that didn't necessarily get everybody outside the building super excited,

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<v Speaker 1>but look how they work. And especially when they hired

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<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Hackett. Everything. For as much as he accomplished in Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 1>the way things ended there, there were some questions about

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<v Speaker 1>putting him into that role. He been an All star,

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<v Speaker 1>higher was a guy that had an opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 1>an interview as a head coach this offseason. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at now. The thing I like the most though

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<v Speaker 1>about the Special Teams is yes, it's a coach that

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<v Speaker 1>has been on staff. But you heard Matt Lafleur talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and again this is no disrespect to Seawan Meninga,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could almost hear in his words when he

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<v Speaker 1>was addressing the media that this is a guy I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I would have known more about that being uh

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<v Speaker 1>Modrayton when he hired for the coordinator's spot the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew he was talented, he knew he's someone that

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<v Speaker 1>was held in higher guard in this in the building,

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<v Speaker 1>but wasn't sure if he was ready for that head spot.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels like that's the spot he's in now. And

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<v Speaker 1>even more than that, Mike. Right now, Greeny Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>six specialists on this offseason roster. You have to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of competition not only for that,

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<v Speaker 1>for the return jobs, for the four core jobs they

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<v Speaker 1>brought back, Will Redmond you have you know, or in

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<v Speaker 1>Burke's and Tye Summers coming back. They want to build

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<v Speaker 1>a basis there and I think this is an important

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<v Speaker 1>time to do it because I would believe I still

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna end up seeing this expanded practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>stick around even past COVID. You're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pull players. You're gonna be able to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more maneuvering than in the past. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can find players, I really truly believe this, find a

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<v Speaker 1>core group that then you can move pieces around as

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<v Speaker 1>you need to. That is going to be key, because

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<v Speaker 1>as as Drayton said, you look back to the Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>Cromwell days, the Mic Stock days. He took the right

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<v Speaker 1>approach in being reflective on what the history of special

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<v Speaker 1>teams is in Green Bay and wanting to pay homage

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<v Speaker 1>to that and also bring some of those values back

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<v Speaker 1>now as they look to turn this thing around. Yeah. Absolutely, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with that, we're going to call it a wrap on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Packers Unscripted. In our next couple of episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>we will look a little more closely at the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and and get into the Draft preview as things really

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<v Speaker 1>ramp up and get close here. But for now, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for tuning in everybody. We appreciate it. We really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate being back here in the studio. Nice studio. This

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<v Speaker 1>is nice. We will see you next time.