1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. When they want you to stop driving 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: your gasoline car, they'll they'll get you to do it. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: They'll either do it by eliminating gasoline and they'll trickle 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: it down, or make it so expensive you don't be 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: able to afford to drive it, or they'll do it 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: by parts under rolled at eight miles the Car Doctor, 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: the battery's gotta be tip top. The battery's gotta be 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: a hundred percent, which it really needs to anyway, but 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: starts stop just requires that much more because it's more 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: of a strain on the electrical system. Welcome to the 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: take your calls. At eight five and now he running, 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: you know before we get today's show started, as Johnny 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Carson would reach over and talk to Ed mcma and Tom, 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: are you there? Tom? I have an announcement for you, Lovely, 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: you're ready, guess what I'm doing next week? I haven't 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: told you this yet, Can we say that on the air? Yeah, 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I think we can. So I'm giving I'm giving away 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: a Nissan excellent Did you know that? I think I can. 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I tell you this. We're giving away a matter of fact, 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: I think I posted on our Facebook page. Okay, good, Yeah, 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: we're actually we're actually giving away a book about Nissan 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: Fifty Years of Exhilarating Performance by Pete Evan. Now, um, 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a great book, color pictures. It is such a 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: high quality book. Um. I've enjoyed it for the little 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: that I've read it because I'm trying not to get 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: my fingerprints all over it. And I know I have 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: to give it away because otherwise I'll have a collection 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: of books and my wife's gonna commit and hit me 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: in the head with it. Um, Like, what are you 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: collecting all this stuff for? You know? It's like got 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: to move on. But it covers everything the history of 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: early when it was Dotson and then it became Nissan, 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: and they talked about the history of the Z car 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: and it's fascinating, it really is how it all came 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: to be. So we're gonna give that away next week. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Tom decision of the judge namely you will be final. Yeah, 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: so everybody's got a clamorole over you. And uh, are 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: there any pictures of you in this book? No, not 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: at all. So it's a good book to have the 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the face made for radio, you know. Uh, you know 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: it's it's why would I do that to anybody? Um? 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, actually, Tom, I'm a very famous person. Did 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: you know that? Somebody? Yeah? I had a couple of 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: people tell me that this week. It was really kind 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: of funny. I had somebody from a local New York 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: radio station called me up. They want to put the 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: show on UM in the New York market, in the 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: New York metro and Um, I had to explain a 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: bunch of things to him, and they were very polite 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: and they thanked me. They said, you know, you're very famous. 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you gave me ten minutes. I can't believe. 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: I'm like really, I mean she said you're you're famous 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: like Kim Kardashian and that kind of killed the mood. Uh. 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: It's like, jeez, I don't want to be famous like that, 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: So I know, lord, you know. But um, in any event, 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: so next weekend, here on the Car Doctor, we're giving 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: away a Nissan book? How to say it like that? 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: So we're not giving away a Nissan. What do you 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: got from me this hour? Look, we got calls want 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I find that amazing. Well, because 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm famous, So I'm right up there with Kim. Let's uh, 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: let's go over to Frank and Delaware sixteen Silverado. See 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: what's going on? Frank? Is this truck broken again? Well? Now, 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: how you doing wrong? I went ahead and took it 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: in last week on the tour converter, and they they 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: followed the bulletin. You told me the service bullet so 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: they went ahead and did the procedures on that check bulletin. 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: And uh, I I just only I've only been driving 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: in a couple of days. I think I can still 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: feel it. It's just it's just when you let off 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: of the accelerator. It really doesn't matter what speed you're going, 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean generally over thirty. Uh. But they found no 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: they told me they found no, uh, metal shavings in 79 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: the pan. So they changed the transmission fluid and cleaned 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: everything up in the filter and so forth, gasket and old. 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: But I don't know if is that possible not to 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: have it's got twenty nine four miles. Did they refresh 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: my memory? Frank? Did they put a tor converter in 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: this vehicle? No? No, No. The first time I took 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: it in in December, I paid for the flush transmission flush. 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: And then this time it's under the warranty. Uh, and 87 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: they had a kid or something. I didn't get a 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: full detail on what was done, but they told me 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: they didn't find any metal, metal shavings and so forth. Um, 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: what's the outlook on that? Do you think from your 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: professional thing? You know? It's funny because Tuesday this past week, 92 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: I was working on a Silverado at the shop and 93 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I thought of you. I don't know if you heard 94 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: me thinking about you, because I came across I came 95 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: across Preliminary Information Package P fifty seven B Isn't Baker, 96 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: which replaces PIT fifty seven A as an Apple, and 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: it talks about shutter or shaken acceleration excess of fluctuating 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: between thirty and sixty five. And I said, I think 99 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: somebody from the radio show called me up about this 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: from Delaware. Um, I said, I think it was Frank, 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: And sure enough, Um, so go get your hands on 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: PIT fifty seven B. But I'll tell you the end 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: result is they want you to put a tor converter 104 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: in the vehicle. Say that again, Ron before you go slower. Okay, 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: PIT Preliminary Information package or preliminary information P fifty thirty 106 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: seven B isn't baker, It's not a bulletin. It's a PIP, 107 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and sure is only G Only GM could come up 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: with a piece of information that would be a PIP, 109 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: which is a p limit, which is a precursor to 110 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: a T S B. You know, it's like, what was 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: the repair? It was a PIP, I bet um so 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: PIP fifty seven B. And it talks about shutter on acceleration. 113 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: Do you have these symptoms, Frank Uh, shaker shutter during 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: light acceleration between thirty and sixty five, excessive rpm fluctuation 115 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: like the tech needles moving a shutter, feeling like driving 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: over rumble strips. But it's only on deceleration. Okay, Well, 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: it's only when I let off the accelerator, uh to 118 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: slow down or catch a light or or you know, 119 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: just slow slowing down. Uh, I will feel it. Well, 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: if you're feeling it only on D cell that it's 121 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: not in the trans that's a separate issue. Are they 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: feeling this shutter shake? Well, they went ahead and performed this. 123 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to the technician that that worked on it. 124 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I imagine I should do that next week. Try to 125 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: hook up with the person that worked on it and 126 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: asked them some questions, right, because if they're not feeling it, 127 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: they're chasing something they're not quite sure what it is. 128 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: I had a Toyota this week, and then I gotta go. 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I had a Toyota avalon this week. Customer brought it in. 130 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: All that I all that I got on my work 131 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: order was a jingling noise from the rear of the vehicle. 132 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: That was it? Jingling clanking noise rear of vehicle. And 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I was the guy that wrote the order. So I 134 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: had to think back, to think back to the customer. 135 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I thought about it. I came to the conclusion, I said, gee, 136 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I would focus more on the loud, tearing 137 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: sound I'm hearing from the right front, like the structure 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: to the fallout. Sure enough, the top right front strut 139 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: mount the nut was loose. I snugged it up, told 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: him to come pick up the card, drive it. He 141 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: can't run around the block and he goes, Wow, it's fixed. 142 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: What did you do when I told them? So, you know, 143 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: communication is important before we go any further and talk 144 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: about any more pips and tsb s than anything else. Frank, 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: go back to the tech, talk to him, Explain to 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: him what it is you're chasing, what it is your 147 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: concern is, maybe somehow in the era of pandemic, you'll 148 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: have to take a ride with them, and then we 149 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: can have a conversation afterwards, depending upon what he finds. 150 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Gary and p a what's on 151 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: your mind? Comments about electric vehicles. Always open to those conversations. 152 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Good sir, what's going on? Well, I just you were talking. 153 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I was listening to your show. I don't have a 154 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: specific vehicle, but I was listening to your show and 155 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: and you were talking about, you know, what are they 156 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: gonna do about gasoline for electric vehicles? And my comment 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: is gasoline is just a very small part of the 158 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: petroleum industry. I mean, it's it's it's it's a significant part, 159 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: but it's not petroleum industry. And we've been a petroleum 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: based society for more than a hundred years, and everything 161 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: is made with petroleum gasoline is made obviously, but steel 162 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: and glass, and rubber and asphalt and and the material 163 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: for the seats, everything is is petroleum based everything, fair point. 164 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean I read somewhere that it is is physically 165 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: impossible for an adult in this day and age to 166 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: go through a day without touching something that's made from petroleum. 167 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: But here's my question, Well, if if, if the electric 168 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: car becomes so mainstream, and keep in mind three of 169 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: the fleet right now is hybrid in twenty years and 170 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the twenty years of hybrid of hybrid, if in in 171 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years we go mainstream electric, not the ftill eliminate gasoline. 172 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: But you know the gasoline station on the corner will 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: we go to get gas, doesn't get asphalt, steel, glass, 174 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: You know they're there to sell gas. How are they 175 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: going to dispense gasoline to us in justify the expense? Well, 176 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: that's the right. They can't. They can't do that. But 177 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the the ones who are trying to do this are 178 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: saying that they want to get rid of fossil fuel 179 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: cannot in this society the way it is right now, 180 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: it can't happen. You know what, you know everything, You 181 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: know everything, you know what I want to see, Gary, 182 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the day when there's a when there's 183 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: a storm. All right, I'll lay it out here and 184 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: then we'll go to break um. When there's a storm 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: and we lose power and a senator goes out to 186 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: cut down his his a tree that fell in his 187 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: driveway and he's got an electric train saw because he 188 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to use gasoline because and he realizes there's 189 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: no electricity. How do you cut the tree down in 190 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: the storm that just took out the electricity? Well, that's 191 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: absolutely true. I mean, there was a cartoon online where 192 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: they had a guy sitting in a sitting in a 193 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: charging station with his electric car, and they showed the 194 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: charging station and then the wires going to a to 195 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: a big generator. That's dec that's diesel pilot. Yeah, it 196 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: makes makes zero sense. Zero. Do you ever notice do 197 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: you ever notice? You know, and you and I sound 198 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: like we're in that same age group. Over my lifetime, 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I've noticed there's usually these excessive swings all the way 200 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: to the right, all the way to the left. And 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not referencing political parties. I'm just you know, first 202 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: it goes to the right then it goes to the 203 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: left and all they're trying to do is get to 204 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: the middle. Right. Yeah, I see it all the time. 205 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Well I'm probably older than you, but but but but 206 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I've seen it throughout my lifetime. When I was young, 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, um um, you know, 208 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I would turn on wrench just then, Okay, I would. 209 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I lived in Los Angeles and I was turning on 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: rent and I built a couple of hot rods and 211 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Now I don't even look under the 212 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: hood of my car. I'm afraid too, because I didn't 213 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: even know what's in there. But but but this is 214 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: back when when cars had points. You know, I could 215 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: work on cars, and when you could listen to a 216 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: car and figure out what was wrong with it. I 217 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: bet you got I bet you got some late night 218 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Friday night stories cruising the boulevard. Oh but but it's 219 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: what I'm The point I'm trying to make is that 220 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: that when they say that they want to get rid 221 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,359 Speaker 1: of fossil fuels, it's not realistic. They can't a society 222 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: that's based, that's petroleum based, society that's been that way 223 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: for a hundred years, you can't just change it with 224 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: the swipe of a pen. You can't do that. So 225 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: it makes you, it makes it makes you wonder what's 226 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: the what's really the end game? And you wonder how 227 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna get there. Gary, I appreciate the call, but 228 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put it back on you. I 229 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: want you to call back again. I want to hear 230 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: some late night cruising stories coming out of the garage 231 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: on a Friday night in downtown Los Angeles forty years ago. 232 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: I bet you you got some good ones. Brother zero, 233 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: run in any of the car doctor coming after Rock 234 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: right after this La right it on the wall, so 235 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right? 236 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero zero. Now back 237 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: to Rock. Let's get down, Virginia Aye talk to Tanya 238 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: about her fourteen Cadillac. Tanya, Ronanini and the car Doctor 239 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: at your service. How can I help? Hey, Ron, thank 240 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: you so much for taking my call today. You love 241 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: your show, love your bump of music too. So quick 242 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: question in March um during COVID my car the touch screen. 243 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: I have a Cadillac C not a CTS and s 244 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: RV the CRX kind and um, yeah, yeah, and it's 245 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: a has just over sixty seven thousand miles on it 246 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: and the touch screen cracked, um in the left side 247 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: and the right side. Just all started, you know, last March, 248 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: and I no longer can touch the screen to do anything. 249 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: And it really would not have bothered me so much, 250 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, because I don't not a real tech savvy person. 251 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: The touch screen was fine, except when I called the 252 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: dealership to see what's going on with it, they said 253 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: it would be twelve dollars to replace it, and they 254 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: really only have the same replacement of the same product 255 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: that is in there currently. And then he told me 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: there is a class action lawsuit on that, and so 257 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I wondered, we'll do I go ahead and bite the 258 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: bullet to have it replaced, do I just kind of wait? 259 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: And it would not have bothered me so much except 260 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: for this Christmas. We got new phones and here in Virginia, 261 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: you can't be on your cell phone and driving. I 262 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: don't have a weight. I can't hear it, that's right. Yeah, 263 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: So so and I've gotten you know, it's actually I've 264 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: gotten this is a common as a common complaint at 265 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the shop. And then emails a lot of people have 266 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: reached out and what I've done in my research. What 267 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: I found is there's a company out there called Provo Beast. 268 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: If you go to YouTube, go to YouTube and search 269 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Cadillac s r X screen replacement all right, and there's 270 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: a couple of videos that come up, and one of 271 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: them is by a company called provo Beast. I've never 272 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: used their product. In the video they talk about how 273 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: they're using a GM replacement part. I don't know if 274 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: it necessarily helps you, but it will show you just 275 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: what is going to be done. And it's kind of 276 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. Is they pull that center unit out 277 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: of the dash and then take it apart and spread 278 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: the screws out all across the workbench, uh down to 279 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: the point where they can change the screen. It's just 280 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: amazing what goes into it. So that being said, perhaps 281 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: your mechanic is a brave soul. If it's somebody other 282 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: than the dealer and and now he's he's not adventurous, yeah, um, 283 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. And and then the other side of it 284 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: is at least then you'll have knowledge of what it 285 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: is they're going to do. You know. The other the 286 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: other side of it is if you get a straight 287 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: replacement part because that is likely to replace the screen, 288 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and you should ask him that because I don't think 289 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the whole unit. The whole unit itself, 290 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: if I were to guess, is more than it's probably 291 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: three grand, because it's it's actually a computer made up 292 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: of several modules, all right, so you know, as them specifically, 293 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: what are you changing? Are you just changing the screen 294 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: or are you just changing are you changing the whole cluster? 295 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: All right? If you watch some of the YouTube videos, 296 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: you'll get more information. You'll have more knowledge to see 297 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: how the system breaks down. You know, I kind of 298 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: like doing that stuff because I realized that, you know, 299 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: you think the center of that dashboard is so structurally sound, 300 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: and you realize it's just a bunch of modules route 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: together that make it, and they make it look like that. 302 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's I open. Think about what carpenter 303 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Bob used to say to me, if you knew how 304 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: a house was built, you wouldn't live in one. And 305 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: I keep telling him, if you know how our car 306 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: was put together, you wouldn't drive it. Um. So so 307 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: that being said, go back and ask the dealer if 308 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: I have you guys do it for um? You know, 309 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: what can you do for me? Since there is this 310 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: class action lawsuits? Since it is such a common failure, 311 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: is there any is there any wiggle room here to 312 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: make me a happy GM vehicle owner? Yeah? And and 313 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: so when I asked the dealership, what they have mentioned is, 314 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, once the class action lawsuit is settled, then um, 315 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: it's likely they would reimburse I guess that to some point, 316 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: depending on what the decision is in the class action 317 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: laws too. But that doesn't really kind of help me 318 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: at the moment. You know, who's whose services the car? Tanya? 319 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I I use And Um, I don't know if I 320 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: can say who my mechanicals, but he's a NAPA Auto repair. 321 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: You can tell us your mechanics. It doesn't matter to me, okay, okay. 322 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: And and he it's just too big of a job, 323 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: you know. Um an intricate that he he doesn't really 324 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: want to deal with, you know. Um. So I was 325 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: just curious other than the dealership. So thank you. There's 326 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: and I'll leave you. I'll leave you with this real quick. Um, 327 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: if this is your first Cadillac or if this is 328 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, your second or third GM vehicle. I think 329 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: the dealership, if they were smart, would pay attention. And 330 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: if you said, hey, I'm a multiple GM vehicle owner, 331 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: what can you do for me? Do that let us 332 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: know what the outcome is. I wish you will. Look, 333 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: I'm run a naming the car doctor. I'll be back 334 00:18:38,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back on the end of the 335 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: car dot here at zero. Let's get over to Ralph 336 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: in Virginia six Cadillac convertible. Ralph, how can I help help? Yes, sir, Hey, 337 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: first of all, I just want to say I enjoy 338 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: your show. I'm amazed at how much you know, and 339 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly impressed. So thank you for taking the car. Yeah, 340 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: his dream car, right, six four Cadillac convertible, and he 341 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: moved and when he moved, he didn't have a place 342 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: to keep it, so he had a cover on it, 343 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: sitting out underneath some pine trees. Well, he just got 344 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: a place to to pull it under some shelter and 345 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: when he pulled the cover off, the underside of the 346 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: white convertible put roof was molded. Yeah. Yeah, anything you 347 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: can do for that, Well, you know the problem is, 348 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: and just turn your radio down. In the background, there, Ralph, 349 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: if you would um the problem is to get rid 350 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: of mold. If it was on the floor, you know, 351 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: a concrete area or wood in the house, you know, 352 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: you would use you know, typical household cleaner, lightsol, chlorox, 353 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: vinegar or something like that. The issue is, obviously you 354 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: put chlorox on a cloth, fabric or you know, anything 355 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: with color, it's gonna it's gonna take the color out 356 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: of chlorox. Bleach is gonna you know, bleach it to 357 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: a neutral. So whatever we put on this convertible top, 358 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: we've got to make sure that it's not gonna hurt 359 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: the top. You know, that's that's the concern. There's a 360 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of ways to kill mold. It's just I don't 361 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: want to ruin the top on the sixty four Cadillac. 362 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: So you know, my first thought is wash it thoroughly 363 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: warm water and a good car wash. So the question 364 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: is will that get down into and and remove you know, 365 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: the mold pours down in the in the fabric of 366 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: the material. So you know what I'm thinking is, and 367 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a little bit of an experiment, 368 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: is if we added vinegar, because I don't see vinegar 369 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: taking color out of the top, and I would try 370 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: this on a small area, a small corner of the 371 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: top first, to see, you know, maybe a spot where 372 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: it is not necessarily exposed to the naked eye, where 373 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: we're not going to you know, see it every day. 374 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: Just to make sure there's no reaction. Wash that area first. 375 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: If everything looks good and it just gets clean, then 376 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: I'd feel comfortable telling you to wash the top of 377 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: some vinegar mixed in with a good, good car quality 378 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: car soap. And you know, we should talk about washing 379 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the car and this is probably you get it, and 380 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other people get it. But just in case, 381 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: you don't use dishwash detergent to wash the car. Uh, 382 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: you know I I we've never really talked about that 383 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: here on the show, at least not in recent memory, 384 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: because of the fact that well dishwashed detergent is very harsh. 385 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: You know. It's it will actually strip away any wax 386 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: that's on the vehicle, any it can actually do damage 387 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: to the paint. It is. It's it's probably the worst 388 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: thing in the world you can use to wash the car. 389 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: Companies like McGuire's three m all the different sorts of 390 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: car wash soaps that are out on the marketplace. They're 391 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: soft on the paint, they're easy on the paint, but 392 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: they help lift and remove the dirt. And that's what 393 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: you want to use. You want to use something designed 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: specifically to wash a car, not and I and I 395 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: say this only because you know, every once in a 396 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: while somebody says, Hey, you know, I'm not spending fifteen 397 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: bucks on car wash soap. I'm just gonna use my 398 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: mom's dishwash detergent for six dollars a bottle. And I 399 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: cringe because you know it's it's for the for the 400 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: ten bucks you're trying to save, You're you're ruining the 401 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: paint job on the car. Uh. Well, now you another thing. 402 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: What about this new synthetic wax or something? I thought? 403 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: And I don't I hadn't tried to do you know anything, 404 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know what there are Are you talking 405 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: about synthetic wax for the paint? I don't know. It's 406 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: right next to mcguires. And are you talking about the 407 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Is it F twelve or F two? There's a there's 408 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: all sorts of waxes on the market. It would it 409 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: would be a it would listen, it would be an 410 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: easier conversation to say, Ron, what do you what do you? 411 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: What do you wax the hot rod with? All right? 412 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: Black always gets one coat of McGuire's I believe it's 413 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: McGuire's twenty eight. They're yellow paste in the tan bottle, 414 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: works really well, fills all the scratches. And then once 415 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: a year I'll go through the you know, the three 416 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: step polish, or actually used the last two steps of 417 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: the three step polish, and then I'll code it with 418 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: some McGuire's wax, and I'll do McGuire's wax in the 419 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: middle of the cruise season, and then once before I 420 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: put it away. And that's all I ever really used. 421 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: I like the McGuire's product. That works well. Um well, 422 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: it's my daily vehicle. I just want to drive back 423 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: and forth to work or wherever, to the woods and 424 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: get yourself and listen. You can go on the McGuire's website. 425 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny and and and I like McGuire's product. 426 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: You can go on the McGuire's website. Tell them your vehicle, 427 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: tell them how you're going to use it every day, 428 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: show car, you know, holding manure, whatever you want to 429 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: do for it. All right. You know they've got all 430 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: the gam it's covered and they will tell you. They 431 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: will write you a prescription per se if you need 432 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: this cleaner, this wax, this polish, this car wash, soap, 433 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: and they'll tell her it right to you. I have 434 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: McGuire's or twenty, and I forget the number of wax 435 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: for the hot rod. I've got their cleaner wax and 436 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: their regular wax in the red bottle for the suburban. 437 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: And that's what I use on pretty much everything else. 438 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: And I also use there. I can't think of the 439 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: name of it. I can see the I can see it. 440 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: It's in a m it's in a it's in a 441 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: gray and black bottle from McGuire's to keep the headlights, 442 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: UH protected to because I also waxed the headlights. UM, 443 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: so hold the hold different conversation. Well, let's talk about 444 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: wax and cleaners one day. So does that do it 445 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: for your route? Does that help? Hey? Thank you very much, 446 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Good luck to you. Let us 447 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: know what happens. Let's get on over and talk to 448 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Jesse and Virginia. Virginia's coming in loud and strong today, 449 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: three in a row. Twelve GMCCR and some problems at 450 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: the alternator and the stability track light. Jesse, you're on, 451 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah, hey, Ron, thanks for taking 452 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: my call. I have an alternating problem where uh I 453 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: get the chime go off and yellow light says traction control, 454 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the other one says service to bilit track and they'll 455 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: come on either simultaneously or the alternay. And it doesn't 456 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: happen all the time. And usually this happens like in 457 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: the summertime when it's not in humid and when cooler weather, 458 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: it never happens. So I had a couple of different 459 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: people look at it, and nobody could seem to nail 460 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: it down. And I was wondering if you could give 461 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: me some kind of direction on this. Does it ever 462 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: display a fault code anytime anybody scans it? I don't know. 463 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I don't have that answer. Does it? You know? Have 464 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: you taken it in when the light is displayed? Well, uh, 465 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: I've given him the truck. I know it comes on, 466 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: you know when they got it. Maybe if you turn 467 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: it on after a few minutes, it will come on. Okay, 468 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: So so let's talk about this all right. You've got 469 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: a vehicle with thirty computers on it, believe it or not, 470 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: all right, and every computer talks to every other computer. 471 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: That's what a controlled area network is can can bus 472 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: all right, So this could be a This could be 473 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: an issue where one module is dropping off the bus 474 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: and can't talk to the other. This could be a 475 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: fault with that actual module forced to build a track. 476 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: This could be a fault with a sensor that feeds 477 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: information to the stabilit track module, all right. That's why 478 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: it would That's why it would really be important to 479 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: catch this in the act to see, you know, who's lost. 480 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: Does it have a U code communication, does it have 481 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: a P code sensor fault? Does it have a circuit 482 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: performance code? I can tell you this. They have lots 483 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: of shoes with the steering wheel position sensor and the 484 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: connector itself, all right, and that will cause that will 485 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: cause the description you're describing with service to build a 486 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: track and traction control uh and ABS fault will cause 487 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: a traction control issue. Um, you know, we've got to 488 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: find out who's not talking. That's the first step, all right. Now. 489 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Any aftermarket wiring or installs to this vehicle, anything done 490 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: in or around the area of the steering column. Is 491 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: there a plow on this truck? Ah. I don't know 492 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: if any aftermarket work has been done on this. I've 493 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: had the truck. I thought it last spring, and then 494 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: I had the problem. I had the problem all in 495 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: the summertime, towards the late summer, when it was hot 496 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: and humid. That's the weather cooled down. It stopped doing it. 497 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: But as the weather's going to start forming up, I'm 498 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: positive it's going to start doing it again. Right, And 499 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if it's heat related, I'm either dealing 500 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: with water intrusion somewhere that's caused corrosion and it's affecting resistance, 501 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: or I'm dealing with a module that's obviously getting hot 502 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: for some reason or warm. But you know, your description 503 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: of weather just makes me automatically think that this is 504 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: a weather related, temperature related issue, and I've got to 505 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: think about how electronics react to that. So do this, okay, 506 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: crawl around under the dash. Does it look like anything's 507 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: out of place, a panel missing, any screws missing where 508 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: they're supposed to hold up a shield, any place it 509 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: looks like somebody was there before you, or somebody was 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: there since the factory Tech assembled it back in twelve 511 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: and if it does, take a little bit of a 512 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: harder look. Take a look at the connector for the 513 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: steering wheel position sensor, which is located in and around 514 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: the column area it's attached to the column. And then 515 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: the next time it happens, talk to your mechanic and say, 516 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: listen when you when I bring this in, I want 517 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: you to at least do a compleat data scan of 518 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: all the modules on the vehicle, not O B D 519 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: two year make models specific, because we want to see, 520 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: first of all, is somebody not talking even though it's 521 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: a momentary thing, it should recall we should record a 522 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: U code communication fault for that particular problem. Good luck, 523 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: Let me know what happens. Zero car doctors coming back 524 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back an in the car, docul 525 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Pete oh six Chrysler PT cruiser. Peter, 526 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: how can I help? Hold on? Yes, sir, how are 527 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: you doing today? Good? What's going on? Okay? Two Cruiser 528 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: hundred seven? About this problem? Just wait for it hurt? 529 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: How many? How many miles on this car? Hundred seven thousand? 530 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Just broken in brother, Go ahead, the cruiser hardly. But 531 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: the story the transmission, I'm getting, uh, it's going into 532 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: limp mode off and on intermittently, And I own a 533 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: launch one to three scanner, and I'm pulling a p 534 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: O five six two, which is a low voltage of 535 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: p O seven fifty from the t c M, and 536 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: then from the PCM I'm getting a seven and the 537 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: p O four four one, which is an evapp thing 538 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: which does anyway, has nothing to do with this. You 539 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: were getting a P zero five six two. Yes, okay, 540 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: what have you done so far to diagnosis? Well, what 541 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: I have done as I had mounted a ground on 542 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: the side of the transmission, on the left hand side 543 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: because it was easy, a nice big battery ground cable 544 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: from a lawn tractor actually, but it worked fine, and 545 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was getting corroded with the cold weather. 546 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: The cut I had this has happened before. I had 547 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: a sharp shot off the check engine light cleared all 548 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the codes and it's been fine up until about three 549 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and it's been a great card. My wife 550 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: and I have been taking trips with the sea. But 551 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: three weeks ago it started hunting back and forth and 552 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: going into trying to go into limp mode and the 553 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: pr oh, you know, the prenand and the tachometer would 554 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: light up saying, you know, said going that something is 555 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: a mess, right, that it's going into a limp exactly. 556 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: But you can clear the codes, drive a few miles 557 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: and will will come back. So my first question is 558 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: do you have do all of these fault codes come 559 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: at once or do they are they spread out over time? 560 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: They all come at once, they all come at once, 561 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: So we've got to look for what's common. All right, 562 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: we've got a lot alright. One thing I did do, 563 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I took the battery out and the air cleaner and 564 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: I mounted there's a threaded boss on the top of 565 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the transaxle and I actually tapped it for a quarter 566 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: twenty and mounted that ground strap right there, a good 567 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: solid ground and tied to the negative post side of 568 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: the battery. Clean everything up with the wirepression, just to 569 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: make sure good and grounded. Have you done anything with 570 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: the trans relay? Okay, so you know what if we 571 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: found the trans relay, all right, the transmission um no, 572 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the actual power power relay that 573 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: actually feeds power to the um UH controller itself, and 574 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and i'd like to see, you know, is this setting 575 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: the five six two and then the associated related voltage 576 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: codes that are going with it, because it's just losing power. 577 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: And if we could find power input either to the 578 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: relay or to the control module that's on the front 579 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: of the trans or the or the tip them depending 580 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: upon which version of wiring this is for a Chrysler, 581 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: all right, if we could find the power input and 582 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: wire in a side marker bulb. You listen to the 583 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: show a long enough, I can tell you know what, well, yeah, 584 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: in series and just so basically it'll light up the 585 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: bulb and is the ballblit? And and you know, do 586 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: we have power where we're supposed to have power? Just 587 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: something so that really I was changing and replacing it, 588 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: cleaning something up. Um. Depending upon and depending upon what 589 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: version this is, that relay might be replaceable, but I 590 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: would start looking for that. I would definitely go there 591 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: that relay is if it's going to be where I 592 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: think it is, it's isn't there a battery box under 593 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: the hood, a junction box. I think we're gonna I 594 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: think we're gonna start there. But before you do anything, 595 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: what I would say to do is get a wiring 596 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: diagram and match it to the vehicle, and then look 597 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: at the components listed and then follow the wires and 598 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: find your power source that wakes everything up here because 599 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: Chrysler has been known to m heck, I've had chryslers 600 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that are a x is that have oh five wiring 601 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: in them. So match what you've got to a diagram 602 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk again. Zero nine zero zero. I'm 603 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: run a nat of the Car Doctor. I'll be back 604 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back on the name of the 605 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Let's take a look at the Car doctor 606 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Facebook page, Rick writes, and hey, Ron, I've got a 607 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: two thousand three win star eighty seven thousand miles on it. 608 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: The trans is beginning to slip when it's first leaving home. No, 609 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: their time, everything else is good. Do you think it's 610 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: worth replacing? You know, Rick, it's a fair question. The 611 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: question is that the answer is what kind of shapes 612 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the vehicle in all right, it sounds 613 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: like the trans is headed for replacement. You know. You 614 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: can go through the change the fluid and check the 615 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: fluid level and pull the pan and look at all 616 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: the other things. But it's it's an O three. It's 617 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, it's got almost ninety thousand miles on it. 618 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's not really been serviced. Great, but before 619 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: you go through the expense of replacing the trans and 620 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: that'll set you back, you know, I'm sure for a 621 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: grand depending upon where it's done and to what level 622 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: of quality. And make sure you ask about warranties when 623 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: you invest in something like another transmission for a vehicle. 624 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: What does the rest of the vehicle look like? You know? 625 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: And and even if it looks good, you know, and 626 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you've got to consider any rusty brake lines, 627 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: what does the rest of the suspension look like? You know, 628 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: any rusted, dangling, hanging parts. What's the body like? You know, 629 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: there's a hundred things that are a hundred parts to 630 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: that question. But more importantly, you're just as importantly what 631 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of maintenances the engine gotten. Has it had its 632 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: oil changes, had it's had you know, other fluid service, 633 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: or has this been a Hey, we'll drive it for 634 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: eighteen years and when something breaks, decide whether or not 635 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: to fix that one part and try and drive it more, 636 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: or should we replace it. You've gotta look at the 637 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: whole package, and then you can make an educated decision. 638 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. I'm running aiding the card doctor. 639 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Until the next time. I'm reminding 640 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see it, 641 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: she Leonel. 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