1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Almost Sayings podcast. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: Today it is me and Leanne May from the Secret 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 3: Lives of Mormon Wives. She is Taylor Frankie Paul, our 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: new bachelorette's mom. So we're going to get all the 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: insight as to what we can expect from our new 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: lead from her. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: We're so excited. Thank you. Welcome Leanne May to the podcast. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Hi, thank you for having me. 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: So I heard that you guys used to watch Bachelor, 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: but it's been a while. Did was this something that 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: you guys did as a mother daughter thing? 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 4: Actually no, I don't think we ever watched it together, 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: but we didn't discuss it like a few times. But yeah, no, 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: we never watched it together. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: When was the last time you watched regularly? 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: Probby the Colton season? What season was that? 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Like, Oh, I don't know what that was, but that 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: was towards you know, that was a great era and 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, like that's kind of when a lot of 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: people started falling off after say, Hannah Brown season. Huh, 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: Hannah season was so great, but then like the COVID 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: hit and then Matt James nobody knew who he was. 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: He was fresh, you know, a fresh pick. I just 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: feel like that's when it started to sure turn a 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: little bit. 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, now we we. I watched it your season. I 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: watched it like, uh ben Nick, you know, so those 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: are like the seasons I used to watch. So I'm 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 4: excited to watch it again, and obviously with my daughter 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: being on it, I'm excited to watch her. 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Like, is this the most wild thing in the entire world? 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Your daughter is the bachelorette? 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: I know, yes, I'm so excited for her. She actually 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: gets to go date, which is going to be so 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: nice for her, just because she really hasn't dated, you know, 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: like multiple people at multiple times. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you think she is going to deal 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: with dating, say, thirty men at once. 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I would love it, so I 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: would hope that she would. I got married really young, too, 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: so I'm excited for her. So I'm just like, she 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: kind of got married like younger for like I guess 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: in our world it's she was like an average age. 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: But so in the Mormon religion, people get married like 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: right out of high school. Yeah, right out of college. 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: You know or during college. 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, so. 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: You guys, you know I will be fully transparent. I've 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: only seen two episodes of Secret Lives I am. I'm 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: going to complete though the entire now it'll be soon 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: three seasons before Taylor's reign as Bachelorette, and I am 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: enjoying it. 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: I just started like two days ago. 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: This is like my my bachelor slash like pop culture homework. 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Now. 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: The thing is from what I've seen and what I've 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: heard from future episodes that I haven't seen yet, is 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: that you guys have you have a very close relationship, 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: but like you have your ups and downs and you're 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: definitely not sure about like her man Picker. 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: Oh, she's not a good man. Picker isn't. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: So what kind of guys do you hope that ABC 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: has cast for her? 67 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: Well? I have talked to the casting director oh all 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: the time. I mean we're on the phone all the time. 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: She's probably thinks I'm crazy, but and I might be 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: a little bit every now and then, But I just 71 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: want somebody who's like that believes in God kind of 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: you know, like believes in God or has some kind 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: of like belief other than you know, something like higher power. 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So it does not need to be more. 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be Mormon. No, I mean, obviously 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: I would like that, but it's not. That's not something 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: I guess. There's so many great people that aren't Mormon. 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: Like my father wasn't an LDS guy, and he couldver 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: like years later, but he was a great guy and 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: so and probably one of the best people. You know. 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: So a lot of the people that I meet are 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: outside the religion. So she's like, I'm down to go, 83 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: you know, go to some other religion or whatever, or 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: just just a good guy. Just somebody who's like, obviously 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: you still want him to be like decent looking, you know, 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: because you want that as a feel and I'm sure 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: she does too, but just somebody who's like really humble 88 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: and caring and puts her like in front of them. 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: And her husband was her first husband was like that, 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: So I guess she did pick someone, you know, good, 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: But yes, I think she gets she gets bored, so 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: that's the thing. It's just like, and then she meets Dakota, 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: who's just this crazy they're just chaotic, just toxic relationship. 94 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: So but those are the kind of guys she like, 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: really like, so I don't know, we'll see. 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: We need somebody who's going to keep her attention for 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: a long time. I have to ask, because just watching 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: the first two episodes. 99 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, why. 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: Do I feel like she just like had no care 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: in getting pregnant? Like it was like did she Yes? 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: It was like she was just like, oh, yeah, if 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: it happens, it happens, and she just it was almost 104 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: like she secretly kind of wanted to get pregnant out 105 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: of Woodlock. 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, like yes. I mean I got so much 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 4: crap for like just saying that that was stupid, you 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: know that word like calling, but I got so much 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: hate from it. But it was like they don't know 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: the history, they don't know what's going on, and so 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: when I said that, it's just like you barely know 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: this guy and you want to get pregnant. And now 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: she was pregnant. 114 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: But that's all was so weird about it, is. 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: That like she definitely didn't feel secure in that relationship. 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: She did. 117 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: I didn't even think it was I don't think she 118 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: thought it was going to be long term. But she 119 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, if I get pregnant, I get pregnant. Yeah, 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: so I guess like she just loves having children. Yeah, oh, 121 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: She's a great mom, that's for sure. And she doesn't 123 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: mind having obviously kids because she still wants more kids. 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, you want another you know, another 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: baby daddy, But she's she does. 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: All right, so another baby daddy? Are we thinking? 127 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: Like, if you between you and the casting director, do 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: you want him, her possible fiance after all this, to 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: have kids or not have kids? 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: You know, it really doesn't matter. I think that he 131 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: can relate more if he does have kids, just you know, 132 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: you know, if he has kids, he already knows how 133 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: it works and what the plan is, and maybe possibly 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: he would want another kid, you know. But I really 135 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: want her to be like very sick here and know 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: what she really wants this time. I just hope she 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: doesn't keep repeating that's toxic. I don't know, mess of 138 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: her life. 139 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: We all hope. 140 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: So we also, I feel like she's grown a lot 141 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: since the first season of Secret Lives as well. 142 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: She has, Yes, she is getting better. She's had a 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: lot of therapy. She's just gone through so much. Her 144 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: life has just been such a mess for the last 145 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: few years, and so now I think that's probably why 146 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: she got pregnant. She's like, well, what's one more kid? 147 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: What's the big deal? You know, Like, but then she 148 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: doesn't think about it long term, and so I'm hoping 149 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: she goes in and really like find somebody that's great. 150 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: But then you don't have that much time, right Ashley, 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: because you're just in there for so many weeks, and 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: it's like, is that really possible? 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: I always think that the main show is harder to 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: find somebody than Paradise because it's just eight weeks and 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: you have such little quality time with these people, whereas 156 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: like in Paradise it is a shorter amount of time, 157 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: it's like three weeks, wow, but you're spending day after 158 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: day with the person that you're dating, like twenty four 159 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: to seven, So it is different. But we are wishing 160 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: her luck and I'm so curious, how are they going 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: to film this season? Because the only other single mom 162 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: Bachelorette that we've had, Emily Maynard, they actually worked with 163 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: her and filmed in her hometown in North Carolina. They 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: never filmed in California. What is the plan with Taylor? 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: She'll be in California, so that will film a couple 166 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: weeks there. I think they'll be some I'm thinking a 167 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: couple weeks here is the plan, but I don't know. 168 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 4: And then I don't know where the others. 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay sitting, So a little bit of both. 170 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: Yes, uh huh. And so her son will be with 171 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: her majority of. 172 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: Time, the oldest one or the youngest one the baby. 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the other kids are in school, so that's 174 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: just not going to be realistic. And so, but yeah, 175 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: they are going to allow her to see her kids. 176 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: That was a stipulation for her to go on. And 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: then the baby will be with her some of them, 178 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 4: like some of the time. 179 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: Will there be a nanny with her or will you 180 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: be with her? 181 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so a nanny and myself will be like traveling 182 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: back and forth. But we're kind of just trying to 183 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: see how it's gonna all work out. And so at 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: least the baby can see her every now and then 185 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: at least, you know, so that's the plan. 186 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Will the baby's fathered Dakota be around. 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm hoping not. I said that he will mess the 188 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: whole thing up for her, like he will sabotage her 189 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: whole experience, and so I'm just like, if you can 190 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: just keep him away for at least those weeks, there 191 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: might be some like hope of her like focusing in 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: on this, this whole process of dans. 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: How do you think he would sabotage? 194 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just think, well, I guess if 195 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: she can't have contact with him, he might not be 196 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: able to. But if he was to, he wanted to. 197 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Be there, he wanted to be there with the baby. 198 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And so I'm just like, no, like that will 199 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: not be good just because she will not be able 200 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: to enjoy her time there, and it just wouldn't be good. 201 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: I think that never be a disadvantage if she was 202 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: to do. 203 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: That, perhaps like a distraction for her. 204 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: Oh, very distracting, yes. 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: Because is there still like I know that they I 206 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: know that they have had a relationship in which, like 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: they're still obviously seeing each other a lot because of 208 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: the baby. 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: But isn't there a lot of love still there? 210 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 211 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 212 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: She she so loves him and I believe that he 213 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: truly loves her. And you'll actually I can't talk about it, 214 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: but in the season three you'll you'll see a lot 215 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: that went on with him that came out and just 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: it was not good. And so it made all of 217 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: us just, oh my god. I don't know, it's just shocking. 218 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: But yes, well, now that's an ABC Hulu relationship here. 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: Obviously that's one of the reasons that they cast her. 220 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense business wise. It also 221 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: from a producer's perspective, makes a lot of sense for 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: Dakota to pop in a bit because it's gonna make 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: things sloppy. 224 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: Do you think that they're gonna involve in the storyline. 225 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: No, if so, they haven't told me about it, and 226 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: they probably won't because they know. 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: Like probably not. 228 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: They know how I feel, you know, about that whole relationship, 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: and so they probably are not gonna tell me. So 230 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: if so, I will be shocked to what I see it. 231 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna be like no, no, no, You'll be 232 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: there and you'll be like pushing it away. 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: What was his initial reaction when he found out she 235 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: was a bachelorette. 236 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: I guess he was pretty shocked. And I think he's 237 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: and like, don't I think he doesn't want her to 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: go on it. I know he's done videos saying that, 239 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, let's like otherwise, But I think that he 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: doesn't want her to go on it. Obviously he still 241 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: loves her. I just don't feel like he loved her 242 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: enough or at least I mean, he wouldn't have done 243 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: the things that he did, so I don't know, but yeah, 244 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: I really I was rooting for him actually, you. 245 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah you would. 246 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: I didn't like him at first, and then I grew 247 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: to like him because he's one of those guys that 248 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: you just like. He has that charisma, he's a good 249 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: looking guy. He's just he's kind of manly, you know, 250 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: he came from a farm. He's just like I don't know. 251 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: I didn't like him at first, and then I grew 252 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: to I just gave him a chance, and then he 253 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: just proved me right. So I'm just like, oh, man, 254 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 255 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: I get it. I totally get it. I have my 256 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: sister's boyfriends. 257 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: There's been people that I definitely didn't like and then 258 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: I evolved to love them over time. And it's like 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: crazy where you look back and you're just like, wow, 260 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: I can't believe I used to think of you like. 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: This, and now I think of you like that. 262 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, So I just need to talk a little bit 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: more about what you're talking about. With casting director conversations 264 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: like this is so interesting to me that you've even 265 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: had a hand in this. 266 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Have they showed you pictures? 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: No, they haven't. They haven't showed me anything. But I 268 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: send them guys that I would like her to be 269 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: said up. 270 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: For through what, like guys that you find on Instagram. 271 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: No, one's like yeah, Instagram TikTok, my gosh. 272 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: I wonder if they will like take your advice and 273 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: find these guys, Like are you searching for them or 274 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 3: are they coming into your dms and saying like I 275 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: would love to date Taylor. 276 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: No, they haven't come into my dms at all, but 277 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: I have just I just know her type. But I'm 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: trying to like weed amount to like they look somewhat decent, 279 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: you know. Obviously some of them that have I just 280 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: know those guys that are just like good looking in 281 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: their body and they're always showing it. I'm just like you, No, 282 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: you're not, you know kind of guy. But yes, I 283 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: send him to one of the casting directors. I mean, 284 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: they have like a couple of them because the show 285 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: is like, yeah, I think it's going to be so good. 286 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: I think their ratings are going to be so high. 287 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: Seriously. 288 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm hoping they're the highest, of course, because I'm the. 289 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Mom, right, so the high isn't quite some time. 290 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and so I'm excited for it. So I 291 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: don't know, we'll see. 292 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: So, speaking of that, what's the reaction been. We know 293 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: that it's been mixed. There's a lot of old school 294 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Bachelor fans that have been like, oh, we want people 295 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: to be picked from the franchise. Then there's some people 296 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: who don't love the fact that there's like sort of 297 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: a double standard, you know. 298 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: We her the assault, yes, was all over the show yea. 299 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: And a lot of people say that if it were 300 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: a guy with that past, he would never have been cast. 301 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: What what have you and Taylor dealt with over the 302 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: past month or so? Emotionally? 303 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: It hasn't been that I guess that bad for like 304 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: when all of that happened to was it over two 305 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: years ago? Yeah, it was really really messy, and I 306 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: had so many people come into my dms and just 307 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: so much stuff happened. I haven't felt like the hate. 308 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: I've seen it online like when I'm wreaking comments, but 309 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: they haven't come to me directly this time. Obviously, nobody 310 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: was there at that time, they don't know like the 311 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: true story. Like I used to even believe like everything 312 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: the news had, and you know, there's just so much 313 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: that's so not like a lot of lies, like with 314 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: even police and with the news, they don't portray everything 315 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: that's correct and so and then they make it out 316 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: to be like way worse than it really is. Like 317 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: she didn't ever like her, her kids were never like 318 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: her or anything like that. How like them said just 319 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: just like certain things like you know we I mean, 320 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: people don't know like yeah, they're like half of the 321 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: stuff that really happened. They don't ever go and like 322 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: retrack you know, journalism, I guess, and it's just it's 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: not as real as people think that it is. And 324 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: so I kind of like learned a lot throughout that 325 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: process with like the whole criminal because I never have 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: experienced anybody ever going to jail, and my own daughter, 327 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: like going to jail was like huge for me, so 328 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: and just it was emotional and we just yeah, we 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: got through it, and I'm just glad that, uh, that 330 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: they're giving her that chance, because I do think that people, 331 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: great people make mistakes and obviously you know she I mean, 332 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: if there wasn't a gun or like weapon or stuff involved. Like, 333 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: I think they just took it overboard just because of 334 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: she already had millions of followers before you know, all 335 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: this happened when she got arrested, And I think that's 336 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: why they, like, you know, she was an influencer here 337 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: in Utah and they just took it to the extreme. 338 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I've talked to plenty of people and even 339 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: some judges that have said, like, most people don't get that, 340 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: like they usually get like a slap on the wrist, 341 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: but since she was an influencer, like, they took it 342 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: to I guess like the worst that anybody can possibly get. 343 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: Interesting. 344 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know. 345 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: So would you say the reaction when you guys did 346 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: announce that she was going to be a bachelorette? 347 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: Was it positive? Was it mostly positive? 348 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: Did she have a good day that day or was 349 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 3: she overwhelmed by critics? 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: You know what she was? It was very like sad 351 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: because that morning we were so excited, you know, when 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: the announcement came out, and then the whole thing like 353 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: with Charlie Kirk came. 354 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: Out that happened the same day, didn't it. 355 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 4: Yes, it happened the same day, so we were like 356 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: so excited in the morning and then after like twelve 357 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: o'clock when we heard everything and this is in Utah too, 358 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: so yeah, it was even more. It was she turned off, 359 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: like she turned off her phone and she was she 360 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: couldn't be excited about it, just because like, how could 361 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: you be excited about anybody, regardless of what side you're 362 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: on that this happened. And his little kids were, you 363 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: know there, and that was just devastating for anybody to 364 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 4: go through. And so our whole family was just like, 365 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: oh it was It was just sad, so one emotion 366 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: to another. So yeah, it just yeah, she couldn't be 367 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: She didn't want to post. She was just like, this 368 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: is this is not the time I wouldn't you know, 369 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: so and she like honored him, you know, and so yeah, 370 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: but that was kind of Yeah, we were super excited 371 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: until that, and it was actually a heavy week I 372 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 4: think for the that whole time. Yeah, now it's getting 373 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: to be more real. I'm actually meeting with the producers 374 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: today and so like I'm excited to like, uh talk 375 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: to them. Yeah, so they they flew in for the 376 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: day and I get to hang out with them. 377 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: Oh, are we preparing for packages, like for inter packages 378 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: and like getting some like lifestyle like family life footage 379 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: before going into the shoots. Yeah, yes, yes, Okay, So 380 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: you said that you're gonna be shooting in California and 381 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: then Utah, is she gonna be starting at the mansion 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 3: and then taking the guys that she actually is serious 383 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: about home? 384 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think that. I think 385 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: that's the plan. 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I think she's going to obviously, Yeah, 406 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: the guys that she really likes or thinks that she 407 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: might have a relationship, she will have them meet them. 408 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: Yes. Is it like going to be a top four thing, 409 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: like a hometown situation or you think that she had 410 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: introduced more than four guys? 411 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: No, I think probably the the the last few for sure. Okay, yeah, 412 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: I haven't really talked to her about it, but yes, 413 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: I would. I know that she wants to introduce them. Yes. 414 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: Do you see her being engaged at the end of this. 415 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: Do you think that's going to be a natural thing 416 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: for her to be able to. 417 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: Do with her? 418 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 4: Probably with me there was a whole different story, Like No, 419 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: I would think that. 420 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: No. 421 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: Like but her, she she likes them fast, and so 422 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: it's just like I'm like, please take your time, you 423 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: know with these guys. I don't know, We'll see. It's 424 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: just she jumps into everything so quickly. I just I 425 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: don't know I would think that by her age, because 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: she's thirty one. You know, she would take her time 427 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: a little bit. 428 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 429 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: She doesn't listen to me. I think I should start 430 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: talking saying the opposite, and maybe she will. I'll be like, yes, 431 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: let's get married, Yes let's have some kids, and then 432 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: she might not do it. 433 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 434 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: That's what I need to start doing psychology. 435 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: We definitely hope to see you a lot on the 436 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: show because you have such a funny way of talking 437 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: with her. It's so honest and unfiltered, and the fact 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: that she's so spontaneous is gonna make for a great season. 439 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: She's I think she's gonna be. 440 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: All over the place mentally, which is gonna be really 441 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: difficult for her and you as her mom, but also 442 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: really entertaining for us as viewers. 443 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just like, oh man, they might not let 444 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: me because she might be too messy, and I'll be like, 445 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: I will want to come through the screen. So yeah, 446 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: they probably. I don't know. Who knows. 447 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Oh so funny. 448 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 3: Have any past bachelorettes reached out to her to give advice? 449 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: I think so I think I know she's talked to 450 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: like Hannah Brown. I think she's talked to a couple, 451 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: but I don't know, like all of you know, she 452 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: she has so many she gets so many dms anyway, 453 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: like and I'm sure it's like intensified like so much 454 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: just since you know that they she's come out and 455 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: said that. But yeah, I know, like she's taught. I 456 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: think she's talked to Nick. 457 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she and Nick are friends. He will need 458 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: great help. I know. 459 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: I love I love Nick, so I've met him too, 460 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: and I love him and his wife. I'm just like 461 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: it's I don't know. I wish he was the host, 462 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: to be honest, or Chris. I wish Chris nothing against Jesse. 463 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: I just don't we all we all, so many of 464 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: us wish Chris were the post that would be great. 465 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: And Nick is just absolutely killing it with what he does. 466 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: So I love Chris. I wish they could have brought 467 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 4: him back, But you know, obviously I don't know, and 468 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 4: I don't I have nothing against the new guy. I 469 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: just don't know. 470 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: He's great because he's great, But like obviously there is 471 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: so much heart and soul that we're missing after Chris, 472 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: and I think that you speak for a lot of 473 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: people there. Yeah, all right, Well, I also think that 474 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: you'll probably be at Dancing with the Stars a lot 475 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: after this, because I think that having Taylor probably on 476 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: that show is. 477 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: Probably gonna happen after. 478 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: This, and then of course whoever she ends up with 479 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: is gonna end up on Secret Lives. 480 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 481 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: I love that element to this whole thing because I 482 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are so interested, interested to 483 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: see what happens with the relationships once they get off 484 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: the show. And it's so great that in your case, 485 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: we're gonna see their relationship, them moving in together, planning 486 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: a wedding, navigating all of life off the show on 487 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: Secret Lives. 488 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: It's so perfect. I love this. 489 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. Do you have any advice that you 490 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: I can give her? Because I'm like, you were like 491 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: you're like I would have loved like you're you went 492 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: in you know when I watch you because you're a virgin, 493 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: right yeah, yeah, all of that. Like I'm just like, 494 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: to me, you are like valued yourself. 495 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 6: You know. 496 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: Thanks, And I just I love that because I I 497 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: think that you're a great example to so many people 498 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 4: and so thank you like, you know, like I think 499 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: with not your generation, but just like the younger generation 500 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: is like hookup culture. Yeah, and I just like feel like, gosh, 501 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: you just like give so much of yourself, you know, 502 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: to these guys or vice versa. Like the men too, 503 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: and it's just like, I don't know, I just wish 504 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: more women, especially women though, like value their theirselves more 505 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: and just like didn't give it up that quick, you know, 506 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: Like I don't know, just stuff like that. It's just 507 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: there's so much more, Like sex is like so much, 508 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, there's just so many like it's a 509 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: connection that you give to somebody else, and I just 510 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: like somebody you just don't know or that great or 511 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: I don't know me. 512 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: That's all my feelings back in my twenties was just like, yes, 513 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: I hated cook up culture. 514 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: I couldn't understand why I was living in the. 515 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 6: Midst of it. I was like, I do not belong 516 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: in this decade. I'm like, can we go back in 517 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: time and I can date then? Because I was very uncomfortable. 518 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I love that about you. I mean that's 519 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, you're beautiful and you're just like held yourself 520 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: and that's commendable. 521 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: Thank you. Actually that brings me to another question. Fantasy suites. 522 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 3: That's why I can really get messy, you know, because 523 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 3: like I think that the best situation is that you 524 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: know who you're gonna pick going into fantasy suites, right, 525 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: because then those leads usually end up just sleeping with 526 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: the one person that they know they're gonna pick. 527 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: Because when you go into it and you and. 528 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: You sleep with everyone, uh huh, it can get really messy. 529 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: Oh I bet yes, I will be so pissed if 530 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: she goes in and does that. I will you, I 531 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: will be so mad. And I know, I mean she 532 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: doesn't care, like really what I think, but she does, 533 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: but she doesn't. It's just weird. 534 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: That's why your relationship is so funny, like because you 535 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: guys are very close, but you are, like I don't 536 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: get you. 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm just she says that she's she She 538 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: always says how you wouldn't buy a car. I hate that, saying, 539 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: like you unless you test drive. And it's like I 540 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: didn't have sex in with my husband until I got 541 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: married and I already had her right, so like I 542 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: tried it that way first, and then obviously I marry. 543 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: I've been married twenty nine years, so that is so 544 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: not true. Like our relationship is like a great relationship 545 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: and we I don't know. I just think that that's 546 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 4: not true about it. 547 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: And you know what in Bachelor World, because it is 548 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: very weird, it's so much different than regular world. 549 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: Yes, utilize the thing. In my opinion, if you. 550 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: Have to test drive a car, right, make it be 551 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 3: the person you're gonna pick, and you know what, you 552 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: can go it through it and you can sleep with 553 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 3: no one in the fantasy suite, which is probably the 554 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: best idea. And your test drive is after the show. Okay, 555 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: you're not getting married in the last episode. 556 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, you're still engaged. 557 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: And to be honest, even if you're engaged, a lot 558 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: of those people who leave the show engaged think like, Okay, 559 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: now we're starting to really date. 560 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, because too like right, it's not it's not 561 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: reality like going on these exotic dates. You know, that's 562 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: not always what happens to all these people who date now, 563 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 4: So it's yeah. And I think that this season with 564 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: Taylor is going to be a little different because she's 565 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: like not your high maintenance kind of girl who has 566 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: to go on these like crazy adventures to like, I 567 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: don't know, to impress her. I guess like she's like 568 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: that type that's like, let's just go for a hike. 569 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah. I'm like, she's like the ring doesn't 570 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: like is not anything? You know me, I'm like opposite. 571 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you choose the best ring. I don't know. 572 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: We're so obvious. It's so funny. 573 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite things so far about watching 574 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: Secret Lives though, is that the girls are wearing like 575 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: sweatpants around and talking on couches like that. 576 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: Is more realistic than a lot of other reality show. 577 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I know it is. They're they're they're so funny, 578 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: those girls. Yeah, it's it's fun to see and it's well, 579 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: you've been on reality shows and and uh yeah, it's 580 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: it's not like so many people think it's fake and 581 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: her life is so real on this show. It's it's real. 582 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: It's unscripted. It's real. Like I say what I want. Yeah, 583 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: people ask me, do you do they tell you what 584 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: to say? 585 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm like no, really, Okay. 586 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: That's good to know because I was wondering how her 587 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: transition from Secret Lives would go over into Bachelor, Like, 588 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: is she going to be very aware of production? You think, like, 589 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: is she gonna be like, oh, they're making me do 590 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: this or they're making me do that? 591 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: Like is she going to have she's gonna have to say? 592 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: Is what I is? 593 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: What I think you think that she's going to be 594 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: like more in a direct in our director position because 595 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: of her experience. 596 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: I do, yes, So I think I don't know, we'll 597 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: we'll see. Obviously they can say something and then when 598 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: you're you know, you're signed up, then change it, you know. 599 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: But she's so good at capturing like an audience and 600 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: so too it's like they might just let her just 601 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: be who she is. Who knows. All I know is 602 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: like I hope she doesn't like show up in crocs 603 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: with a dress or something like I just am like, please, Taylor, 604 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: Like some of the shoes that she wears, I'm like, 605 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: that does not go Like she just doesn't care and 606 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 4: it's just funny. She'd rather be comfortable. And it's just 607 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 4: like I'm glad she has like a stylist who's like gonna, 608 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: you know, do her whole wardrobe. I'm just like, at 609 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: least for that part, you know. 610 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: I hope that they recreate a lot of home dates though, 611 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: like what it would actually be like for her to 612 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: be at home with the kids, having her new fiance, 613 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: just like, yes, making dinner and in the midst of 614 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: all the chaos. 615 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: That is right, it is chaos too, chaos. 616 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: How old are they all? 617 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: Indy just turned eight, and then Ocean's five, and then 618 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: the baby ever, he's eighteen months. Okay, so it is. 619 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's a crazy house. Yeah, but she thrives 620 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: in chaos, and so I don't know. 621 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: Good, that's great. She's going to need to continue to 622 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: thrive in chaos throughout all this. Yeah, all right, Well, 623 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: we are so excited for her. I really do think 624 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: this is a great network decision. There's going to be 625 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people interested in the crossover is going 626 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: to be amazing, and we're just hoping for the best 627 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: for you guys. 628 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I we are too. I'm hoping the best 629 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: for her and whoever she married or not Marus but 630 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: find hopefully she does find someone. I'm rooting for them, 631 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: so definitely. 632 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: And before I let you go, what was the reaction 633 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: of the mom Talk group when she got this role? 634 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: Was you think there's some secret jealousy. 635 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, yes. 636 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Who's the most jealous? 637 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: Oh, to me? 638 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: For sure? To me, I think mostly like Jesse and 639 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: Macy and Mikayla. Those three are probably like and jan 640 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: like you. They were so excited for her, and I 641 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: think the other girls were excited too. I just think, 642 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 4: you know, like, why didn't they pick me kind of thing? 643 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: Because they're single, you know too, so they could have 644 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: picked some of the other girls that are not married. 645 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: So she's been the star from the beginning. She's always 646 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: been the center of Yeah. 647 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: She's definitely the star of the show for sure. 648 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: And it all started because of her release of the 649 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah tea. 650 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I don't know. 651 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if you guys need any advice from somebody 652 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: who was not the lead, tell her to DM me 653 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: or I'll give you my number or anything like that. 654 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: It's just I obviously have. 655 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: Never been the puzet. Okay, she would love to d 656 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: I mean, she would love to call you probably. 657 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's so sweet. That's really cool to hear. Yeah, 658 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: all right, well, thank you so much. 659 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure we will have you on after you guys 660 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: are done filming. 661 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I'm excited, but thank you. I feel honored 662 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: that you asked me and tell Ben hi to I will. 663 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: He would love to have been here for this and 664 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 3: he is the master of all lead advice, so please 665 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: please chat with him too. All right, Well, until next time, 666 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: I've been Ashley and that has been lean May Bye. 667 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: Day you later, bye yeah. 668 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 669 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.