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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. It's the tenth of June and

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Speaker 1: we're old. Hi everybody. Luke Thomas. Here, Brian Campbell, It's

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Speaker 1: time for Morning Combat. How are you be saying?

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Speaker 2: We fired the hell up?

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Speaker 1: Luke?

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Speaker 2: In fact, I was remembering them through the wet grass

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Speaker 2: fault lands. I thought, you're gonna, You're gonna, I thot

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Speaker 2: you're gonna come with me when they have palm doubt

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Speaker 2: Joe Goods. I'm doing great, Luke. It's Monday. We're back

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Speaker 2: where we belong, Metal Lark Manhattan. All the dial m

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Speaker 2: for murder because that's where it's at more people.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Do you know people still come up to me in

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Speaker 2: public they're like, congratulations and all your success. Mortal Kombat's great.

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Speaker 2: It happens all the time in real life, you know,

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Speaker 2: even in professional events.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I still get that a lot too. By

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Speaker 1: the way, could it be colder in here? If they're

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Speaker 1: not nearly it's cold. I haven't gotten frostbite yet on

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Speaker 2: Did you grow up regaling the it's colder than a

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, it was a formative learning experience to

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you why I'm so excited though.

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Speaker 1: Because you saw someone doing Heroin in the desperately Sad State.

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Speaker 2: Ms right metal of Lark Manhattan. How about Meridan Connectic

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Speaker 2: Kid Today I'm the Amtrak at the stop on the

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Speaker 2: he was going, he was going into the deep end.

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Speaker 1: Of how I've never done Heroin? How good must it

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Speaker 1: be to just throw your life away? Must be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have to assume that it's the best

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Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But that's not why I'm excited. I don't you know you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that man will live or die.

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Speaker 2: But my point on this is this show not only

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Speaker 2: do we bring it every Monday morning because we understand

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Speaker 2: gonna hit them with a great show, recap the weekend,

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Speaker 2: look ahead to the pay per view coming this weekend,

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Speaker 2: update you on our plans for Morning Combat this week

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Speaker 2: on the ground in Las Vegas. But we have two

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Speaker 2: spectacular guests, Luke, we turned up today right now on

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Speaker 2: this program. How about UFC Hall of Famer and PFL

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Speaker 1: How about that? We need to we need the hip

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Speaker 1: hop horn Long Island, Luke, how week whenever we say

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Speaker 2: Hit me with the Holns MANI is that how it goes?

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Speaker 1: Well? Who's the other guest?

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Speaker 2: How about WBO one hundred and forty pound champion, the

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Speaker 2: So it should be a spectacular program today. And also

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Speaker 2: I've been lighting the burner on you all morning, just

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Speaker 1: Saying ashole things to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, that is a nice, real Madrid jacket.

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Speaker 2: Even if I asked you if it was from your

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Speaker 1: It is, but it's not from my fraternity. It's from

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Speaker 2: I do know what you're saying. Would your father have preached?

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Speaker 1: One more reminder. You just indicated it. We're here live

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Speaker 1: big week in MKA. Remember back here again on Monday.

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Speaker 1: So a lot going on on the MKA universe.

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Speaker 2: Danny Iello was in the Papa Don't Preacher video back

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Speaker 1: This is a reminder, though, you can get the merch.

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Speaker 2: It's mixing it up. But it was an accident.

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Speaker 1: It's because BC came in and started marking his territory

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Speaker 2: We're in the middle of the takeover, right, speaking of Tao,

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Speaker 1: So a year what I was saying a year ago?

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Speaker 2: But to have everything on hold, knowing all the people

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chandler was told Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: We're now eight days removed. There is not an orthopedic

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Speaker 2: Anyone who's had chlamydia knows you don't have to wait

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Speaker 1: But the one I'm trying to make is again, do

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Speaker 2: Pull out of a press conference.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fair. No, no, no, no, Nate Diaz. That fight

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Speaker 2: that wasn't the that was the uh. Yes, that was

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Speaker 2: him refusing to do media. So they took it. They

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Speaker 1: Retire point being is my point being is here was

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Speaker 1: Well, they canceled the thing that they have giantly promoted

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Speaker 2: And I only tried to pay you off because you

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Speaker 1: It was really just a press conference.

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Speaker 1: That's why I cut you out, right, But they but

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Speaker 2: I only felt there was a justification for not releasing

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Speaker 1: But it's the scar, whatever scare what he wants the

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Speaker 2: But I do not believe he's trying to hold them

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Speaker 2: remember that he was trying to package that Cowboy Seroni

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Speaker 2: her because that's what Connor's all about. I didn't think

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Speaker 2: UFC has handled this. It's just really like there's no

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Speaker 2: I understand the idea that you bring in influencers and

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Speaker 2: bottom line, your message will stay you. I get all that,

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Speaker 2: but like, are we done with it? Should all are

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Speaker 2: all sports done with the media? No, the media still

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to take journalists picketing and standing outside

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Speaker 2: their doors to try to get good?

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Speaker 1: He doesn't owe us, but he owes the public.

438
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Speaker 2: He owes the general public, which includes us in a

439
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Speaker 2: role we have in that in in passing messages along

440
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Speaker 2: to the public in a sense.

441
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

442
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,680
Speaker 2: You could cry and be like, ohbe you're just crying

443
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Speaker 2: as an elitist, uh elitist journalist who's getting phased out.

444
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 2: But that doesn't this mess with the like the flow

445
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Speaker 2: of truth and the exchange of news. It just it

446
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Speaker 2: just seems really sketchy or bush league to handle it

447
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Speaker 2: this way.

448
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Speaker 1: I don't it shows how little.

449
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Speaker 2: They actually care or think about the fans in the media,

450
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Speaker 2: and they're in the connection between all.

451
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Speaker 1: I think that if they had something advantageous to tell

452
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Speaker 1: the world, they would The UC doesn't. The UC is

453
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Speaker 1: very self congratulatory and they would want no cita. Do

454
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Speaker 1: you think it's an injury or something else? Okay, what

455
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Speaker 1: would you think that it is?

456
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Speaker 2: Nah?

457
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Speaker 4: Nah?

458
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Speaker 1: Nah? So so under yours I felt my initial my

459
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Speaker 1: initially I was suspect that it was the drug stuff.

460
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Speaker 1: But I think we have to walk that back. I

461
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Speaker 1: really don't think it's that case.

462
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Speaker 2: I mean, I get what Ariel was saying, where it's

463
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Speaker 2: not that and he does know the truth and so,

464
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Speaker 2: but could you believe that they found him in the

465
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Speaker 2: gutter and they and they tried.

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Speaker 1: That is a plausible explanation.

467
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Speaker 2: Okay, I guess the better question is do you believe

468
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Speaker 2: that that the whole system would lie to protect that?

469
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Speaker 1: Yes kind of question? Is that gotta a question?

470
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Speaker 2: What looks like did you watch the Roku series?

471
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Speaker 1: Yes, of course they would. I mean, I don't think

472
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Speaker 1: any of the sports leagues work. I don't think the

473
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Speaker 1: UFC is in any way special in that regard, But

474
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Speaker 1: I guess my only point is is it's just to

475
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Speaker 1: me if this much time has elapsed without the UFC

476
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Speaker 1: commenting on it, and McGregor as well Chandler two, to me,

477
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Speaker 1: it feels like some kind of internal dispute that is

478
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Speaker 1: either semi unresolved or the parties have agreed we'll keep

479
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Speaker 1: it this way as long as we have to.

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Speaker 2: So you say that you're believing that there's a chance

481
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Speaker 2: McGregor threatened to lean into an injury as an excuse

482
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Speaker 2: not to fight because he wasn't being paid enough, you're

483
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Speaker 2: really gonna go?

484
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Speaker 1: I don't. I just I don't see. No fighter has

485
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Speaker 1: ever gotten a piece of the UFC gate. This is

486
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Speaker 1: the biggest gate in UFC history. It's the first time

487
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna do twenty million addition to all the

488
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Speaker 1: pay per view and everything else. They took half of

489
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Speaker 1: what he made when he fought Maywether again, do I

490
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Speaker 1: know these things? I don't know these things. I'm trying

491
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Speaker 1: to figure out what could have happened that explains why

492
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Speaker 1: we've had continued silence over these matters. When injuries are

493
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Speaker 1: the things that you never hear of. I think quite

494
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Speaker 1: like this.

495
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Speaker 2: It was legitimately on the verge of falling apart. I

496
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Speaker 2: think all that's true. They pulled off the social videos,

497
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Speaker 2: you suddenly couldn't buy it back. All of that I

498
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Speaker 2: think was true. Now they're coming with a ten dollars coupon.

499
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Speaker 2: If you buy the fight now you get ten dollars off.

500
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Speaker 2: They're aggressively trying to show the market that no, it's

501
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Speaker 2: back on. It never left. But Luke, I don't know

502
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Speaker 2: how it could be anything but arrogance at this point

503
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Speaker 2: in the way that it's been handled, unless there's I mean,

504
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Speaker 2: maybe there's some elements of this that they didn't want

505
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Speaker 2: to obviously, But I just I'm sad that this is

506
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Speaker 2: where we're at, that they that they could do this

507
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Speaker 2: and they're kind of just getting away with it, and

508
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Speaker 2: it's like.

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Speaker 1: Well, media is now just infotainment all the time time,

510
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: and then if you ask, like, hey, what's the truth here?

511
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Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. You're right, this is info tament hour.

512
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Speaker 1: Don't you know that truth? Yeah?

513
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Speaker 2: You said, you'll be sitting on the outside doing an

514
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Speaker 2: independent show like us. Apparently that's where we're at right now,

515
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Speaker 2: right out. But yeah, I mean it. If it's not though,

516
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Speaker 2: if it's the stuff you're talking about, then it's talking

517
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Speaker 2: about legalities that we're getting into that I was talking

518
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Speaker 2: about that it's not just ethnically.

519
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Speaker 1: I don't know anymore breaking any contracts. I don't. I

520
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Speaker 1: don't I don't know what their contracts. Again, I'm not

521
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Speaker 1: putting forward some kind of secretive information. All I'm saying

522
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Speaker 1: to you is the idea that he got injured and

523
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Speaker 1: they can't figure it out or come to some kind

524
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Speaker 1: of understanding about what his timeline for recovery would be

525
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Speaker 1: after eight days makes zero fucking sense unless it was

526
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Speaker 1: like Alex Smith, catastrophic. Remember he he he snapped his

527
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Speaker 1: chin bone as well, but he had a spiral fracture

528
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Speaker 1: and that was extremely complicated. But you that's catastrophic. You

529
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Speaker 1: can't even compete with them that under that circumstance. Anyway,

530
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Speaker 1: the idea, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Believe it's you that are going this. This is my

532
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Speaker 2: side of the table. Normally, this is on my side

533
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Speaker 2: to be like conspiracy theory, potential, this potential that I.

534
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Speaker 1: Don't listen when I put forward the hypothesis you have

535
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Speaker 1: to understand what that word means. That means I'm just

536
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Speaker 1: guessing what I am saying to you is, let's figure

537
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Speaker 1: out and explain. Let's reverse engineer what would have to

538
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: happen for eight days of silence after canceling a monster

539
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Speaker 1: press conference, the.

540
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Speaker 2: Fear that the narrative will affect ticket sales, So if

541
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Speaker 2: they don't come clean about any injury, they can just

542
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Speaker 2: act like, look, we never report an injury. All we

543
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Speaker 2: told you was that the press conference was off. So

544
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Speaker 2: now they would have.

545
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Speaker 1: Told him to just do the fucking presser anyway. Why

546
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Speaker 1: would you stop doing the presser.

547
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Speaker 2: Because he was physically unable due to some scare or

548
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Speaker 2: injury concern. He was physically unable in a way that

549
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Speaker 2: didn't show everybody that he was weak. I don't know

550
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Speaker 2: if it was a black eye, I don't know if

551
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Speaker 2: it was am that he was on.

552
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Speaker 1: AH. Then he releases all his training footage and we

553
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Speaker 1: don't know when it was recorded, right, you know, there's

554
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: a huge question there in that trade. So that's actually

555
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Speaker 1: looks awesome.

556
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Speaker 2: But that's actually the only way I can explain it

557
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Speaker 2: outside of arrogance, outside of saying, look, we just don't

558
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Speaker 2: want to comment on it. It obviously has to do

559
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Speaker 2: with ticket sales. It has to do with that, right,

560
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Speaker 2: we know the money involved in this, we know. Oh,

561
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Speaker 2: the fights back on. So let's just sit back and

562
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: and hope that talk just goes away.

563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess this as usual. We can only guess.

564
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Speaker 1: I just feel like, as a full again, he might

565
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Speaker 1: have some kind of injury, but as a full explanation,

566
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Speaker 1: some parts of it just don't add up to me.

567
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Speaker 2: And did you see that John Snash reported that in

568
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Speaker 2: the UH in the layout of how much money people

569
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Speaker 2: get in the post antitrust lawsuit, that McGregor will actually

570
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Speaker 2: get twelve million.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah six, Well, he he might get more. He's gonna

572
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Speaker 1: get six from just the Lee settlement and then a

573
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Speaker 1: bunch more estimates.

574
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Speaker 2: It could be it could double up to twelve million

575
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Speaker 2: when you consider one hundred something of that million, of

576
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: the three thirty five is going to the lawyers. So

577
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Speaker 2: now you're breaking up two hundred something in McGregor, who's

578
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Speaker 2: like the one percent of one percent is gonna get

579
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Speaker 2: twelve million.

580
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Speaker 1: He should shoot the guys with health insurance. No, no, no,

581
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Speaker 1: he's the guy, dude. Connor McGregor I've said this before.

582
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Speaker 1: People laugh because he's so rich, he is arguably the

583
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Speaker 1: most underpaid fighter in UFC history relative to relative to

584
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Speaker 1: what he earned versus what. Dude, they took half of

585
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Speaker 1: his money us from the Mayweather fight. Yeah, just that

586
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Speaker 1: alone proves he's the most underpaid in addition to everything else.

587
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Speaker 1: And again, John Jones, we could also add to.

588
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Speaker 2: That, how much you think they're taking from Jorgey and Nate.

589
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Speaker 1: Well, Nate's done so nothing. So just from Jorgey for

590
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Speaker 1: his involvement, probably fifty right, if passed his prolog. Yeah,

591
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Speaker 1: all right, but if you're Horney, last thing on this,

592
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Speaker 1: if you're Horney, the other side of is they didn't

593
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Speaker 1: even used to let people do that. So at a

594
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Speaker 1: bare minimum, this is fifty percent more than you would

595
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Speaker 1: have gotten.

596
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Speaker 2: But for you, well, Jorge must have taken out his

597
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Speaker 2: anger on that dreadlocked security guard.

598
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Speaker 1: You were fucking there. I wasn't. I texted VC. I'm like, dude,

599
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Speaker 1: what happened? He goes, I got the fuck out of there. Yeah.

600
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Speaker 2: I was like, I wasn't there when the shit went down.

601
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Speaker 2: I was actually behind I was like, you know what,

602
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Speaker 2: I can see where this is going, and it's going

603
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Speaker 2: this direction, so let me.

604
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Speaker 1: Just get the hell out of there.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to topic number two this Monday as

606
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Speaker 2: we look ahead to the weekend that that's coming, and

607
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Speaker 2: that's of course what's going down in Las Vegas. We

608
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Speaker 2: mentioned it the PBC on Prime pay per view and

609
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Speaker 2: a big time doubleheader of sorts. When you consider that

610
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Speaker 2: star power a top the marquee as WBA lightweight champion

611
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Speaker 2: in all around superstar Jervonte Tank Davis returns at a

612
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Speaker 2: very tough title defense against Frank Martin in the main event,

613
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Speaker 2: and of course in that co main event, one of

614
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Speaker 2: the biggest stars, breakout stars in the sport and one

615
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Speaker 2: of the pump for Palm best in my opinion, David

616
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Speaker 2: Benavidez will move up to one seventy five. He can't

617
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Speaker 2: get Canelo in the ring for all four titles at

618
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Speaker 2: super middleweight, but he will get former champion Alexander Vodzik

619
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Speaker 2: four an interim light heavyweight belt. Talk about a hell

620
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Speaker 2: of an introduction to the new weight class. So Luke,

621
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be there, We're gonna be on the ground.

622
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Speaker 2: All that great content to come with live shows on

623
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Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday, so pumped for that. I'm excited to

624
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Speaker 2: be in the arena Saturday night cover the fight for

625
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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. When we look to this main event, though,

626
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Speaker 2: what is realistically on the line here, Yes, the WBA

627
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Speaker 2: lightweight title that's now been upgraded after Devin Haney gave

628
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Speaker 2: up his four titles. Between Jervonte Davis and Frank Martin

629
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Speaker 2: in the PBC on Amazon Prime pay per view main events.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting one for me. I mean, part

631
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Speaker 1: of what we're anticipating here is Gervonte Davis hasn't fought

632
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Speaker 1: since April of twenty twenty three, when he fought Ryan

633
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Speaker 1: Garcia in Las Vegas. This is his first fight since,

634
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Speaker 1: and since that time it's not just been time off BC,

635
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: it's been time in jail. It's been time away from family,

636
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Speaker 1: time away from his kids, time away from the sports.

637
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Speaker 1: So it's the first fight in fourteen months. First of all,

638
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Speaker 1: what does the biggest star in boxing look like after

639
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Speaker 1: fourteen months away with a house arrest and a stint

640
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: in jail during that time. That's just a big question.

641
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: More generally, in addition, for Frank Martin, a guy who

642
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Speaker 1: got into boxing a little bit later, by the way,

643
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize he wrestled in high school. Did you

644
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: know that that would explain the physical toughness. Yeah, the

645
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: scrrawny and apparently it was very very good at it too.

646
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to him about this week if

647
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Speaker 1: we get a chance to speak to them, which we should,

648
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: interesting conversation there. I wonder he is ranked somewhere depending

649
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Speaker 1: where you look at it, top five, tops top seven

650
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: in most rankings. What does it look like for Gravante

651
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: to solve this kind of problem? But of course the

652
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Speaker 1: biggest question you're going to be asking is what happens

653
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Speaker 1: here based on the results to the sport, And it

654
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Speaker 1: feels uncertain to me. Ryan Garcia, who was a over

655
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: the weekend, he wants to go to one forty seven

656
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: to begin with, so he's gone. Devin Haney just took

657
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: a fucking beating. I would imagine he would want to

658
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: get Jervonte Davis fight if he got the opportunity, but

659
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: that would be risky giving how difficult everything he's been

660
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: through is he wants, he said for the PBC special,

661
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: he wants to be the best at one hundred and

662
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds, So maybe it means all roads lead

663
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: to Shaquor Stevenson.

664
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: And he fights positive. Have you noticed that things who

665
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: used to just avoid that topic is now constantly saying,

666
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: I'll knock that guy.

667
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: I know what was so interesting? Did you see the

668
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: gloves off special de people see it.

669
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited about watching that.

670
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: They asked him what were you feeling just before the

671
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: fight with Ryan Garcia, and he goes, I was incredibly nervous,

672
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: and they showed him getting his hands wrapped and the

673
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: guy in Boxingly for MMA fans who don't know when

674
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: you get your hands wrapped up, hearing the guy's wrapping it,

675
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: someone from the opposing corner is allowed to watch to

676
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: make sure it's on the up and up. Ryan Garcia

677
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: sent his brother, who was like an influencer boxer, I believe,

678
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: And the whole time I didn't realize this. The whole

679
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: time he's getting his hands wrapped Garcia's brother, there's like

680
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel it from the jump, You're gonna feel

681
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: it right away if you're gonna fel it Sho Garcia.

682
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks shit. He's a real.

683
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Fighter, so okay, so either way, so you can. Gravante

684
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: admitted being like insanely nervous for the fight. Then once

685
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: you dropped him and everything got into play, he was fined.

686
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: I love that he showed that side for somebody that time.

687
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: He looks like, I'm not going to say, humbled by everything,

688
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: although maybe that's part of it. He looks to me

689
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: like he realized, Okay, everything I've been doing up to

690
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: this point leads to really bad places that I simply

691
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: don't want to go to anymore. Now. I want to

692
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: do something different. I want to do something different, and

693
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: it has brought out a certain kind of humanity in

694
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: him that I'm not sure that we've seen. So for me,

695
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: like what's on the line here, maybe obviously besides the belt,

696
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: maybe a Stevenson about if for Frank Martin be the

697
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: biggest one of his career, would it would shake and

698
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: chatter the pay per view excuse me, the pound for

699
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: pound rankings. But also for me, I am very curious

700
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: to see how much Dravante can raise his game, show

701
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: us what he he's really capable of. Can he really

702
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: settle into this new, thirty year old, more mature version

703
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: of himself now that life has kind of kicked his

704
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: ass a little bit?

705
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: So I think the and I think that's right on,

706
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: and I like looking at it from that narrative, And similarly,

707
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: what I'm looking at mostly for Tank in this one

708
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: is it's a really tough fight, and we could spend

709
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: all this time and I'm sure we will this week

710
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: talking of the truth how good Frank Martin is and

711
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: how tough of a fight this is. But whether this

712
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: was Frank Martin or Hector Luis Garcia or anybody that

713
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: was across from him to me, with Tank being gone,

714
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: he hasn't just been gone physically, with the time in

715
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: prison and getting himself together and hopefully, like we're saying,

716
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: that leads to a more mature life, you know, lifestyle

717
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: outside the ring.

718
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: But look, there's a.

719
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Chip on his shoulder in just about every category. We've

720
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: seen him more active in his sort of post and

721
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: ghost style on Twitter. We have seen him be in

722
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 2: my opinion, upset that while he's been gone, what has

723
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: happened in the public eye surrounding this division and these

724
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: young stars, the Ryan Garcia and Ryan Garcia HAINI fight

725
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: and the whole narrative while Tank was gone. Even though

726
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Tank beat him, Ryan became arguably a bigger star through

727
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: some crazy activity and obviously the big upset win and

728
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: all the drugs and everything that's come with that after that,

729
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 2: and now he's unfortunately tore up a hotel and has

730
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: a felony charge right there. And I believe his mom

731
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: has cancer. There's a lot going on in Ryan Garcia's life,

732
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: but he sort of stole the star narrative where if

733
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: you're somebody like Tank, you're saying, look better than all

734
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: of these guys, you know, And I've showed that and

735
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: I want to continue to show that.

736
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: So Luke, he's fighting.

737
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've seen he pulled he pulled kermel

738
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Mowtin with Mayweather's young prospect off of the card and

739
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: has been jawn with him on Twitter. Tank's been drawing

740
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: with everybody the way that he first of all, the

741
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: shape that he's coming in. I want to talk to

742
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: him about that. He is just as locked up and

743
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: tight and lean than we've ever seen. But he's come

744
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: back with a nasty edge with something to prove. I

745
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: think it's to take back that star mantle, to remind

746
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: everybody how big he is. And I also think this

747
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: is a pivotal fight and performance Saudi Arabia is changing

748
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: boxing right now, and there's a lot of money everywhere it.

749
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Tank's been the only guy that's sort of been at

750
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: odds with Turkey Ala Chic in a public sense. Remember

751
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: they kind of did that trash talk back and forth,

752
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: and Turkey still says, look, I'd like to sit down

753
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: and talk with Tank and you know, change his opinion.

754
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: But Tank was like, pay me two hundred million or

755
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 2: I won't fight with you, Luke. Can Tank Davis come

756
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: out here against a very tough opponent and put on

757
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: the kind of performance where he may not need Saudi

758
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Arabia intervention to make the biggest fights possible?

759
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Can we still make.

760
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Tank and Shakkur without Saudi Arabia? And in theory we should

761
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: be able to. I want to see from a business sense,

762
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: if Tank comes in and handles business, and I think

763
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: he's going to be motivated to handle business in as big,

764
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: explosive and nasty away as we've seen in a while,

765
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: what can he do with that in this boxing landscape

766
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: right now? Because if he's in on Saudi, is Saudi

767
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: inevitable for everybody? I hate that every conversation ends up

768
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: going back to Saudi, but it'll match making sense it matters.

769
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: You got to have those conversations. I think that he

770
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't like being out of the spotlight.

771
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: He's glad to be back in a big fight headlining here,

772
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: but he wants even bigger fights. And I think deep

773
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: inside Tanks made a lot of money. He's at ups

774
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: and downs outside the cage. But I do believe there

775
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: is that competitor in him that looks at this landscape

776
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: and says, I want my chance against everybody. I want

777
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: to show you that I truly am the best of

778
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: this era. Saw If he wins this fight and it's

779
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: talking about Shakhor in the post fight interview, then I

780
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: will know that to be true because that guy is

781
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: actually in his weight class, and that is the only

782
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: guy really that people believe now that Haini lost could

783
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: really give Tank trouble in and around these weight classes.

784
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Aside from hany BC. Right, let's just assume he's out

785
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. What would be the biggest fight for Tank? Now,

786
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: this fight's at thirty five, But what would be the

787
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: biggest fight for Tank not including Haney at one forty?

788
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: You could Arguepez, Well, I think there's still a potential

789
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Lomachenko fight at one thirty five if if it's wanted,

790
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: you could argue that there's a ceiling on how big

791
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: that can be, but it would be equally big and

792
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: critically it would matter. I think Tayo Fema Lopez, who

793
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: we will have on the show today, might be that name.

794
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: But I think Tao's, you know, at one forty and

795
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: probably like Ryan, looking like he's more likely to go

796
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: to forty seven sooner than later. I think we got

797
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: to figure out with Tank, who fights more in like

798
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: a walk around weight than he does you know, extreme weightcutting.

799
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Is he going to go to forty again? We saw

800
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: him move up to forty for the Mario Barrios pay

801
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: per view and he looked great. But is is that

802
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: going to be part of his plans? Or is he

803
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: gonna set up shop for a while at thirty five

804
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: knowing that there's still big names, They're still Shakurro, there's

805
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: still Lomachenko. I don't know, I don't know.

806
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: This was so interesting about this fight that the Tank

807
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Davis business kind of stopped after April, right and again

808
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: he had to go to jail, he had to do

809
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: house arrest. He was gone for a while, and meanwhile

810
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: all these other names. Now, Shakur had a moment. I

811
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he made the most of his opportunity

812
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: in the absence of Tank Davis to really assert his name.

813
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Certainly Ryan Garcia did for better or for Worse, and

814
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Devin Haney has become quite visible as well. All these

815
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: all of these other actors are kind of playing in

816
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: that space. This fight is interesting to me because people

817
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: are really dismissing Frank Martin, which I really can't.

818
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't like sell himself in a big way. He's

819
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: not a big trash talk guy in the microphone. He

820
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: does look the part and is I think his fight

821
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: speak for them.

822
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: So he's an excellent athlete, it appears, and he is

823
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: a hard worker. He did come to the sport late.

824
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: I do think Gravante is more talented naturally and has

825
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: had more time to devel.

826
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: See John with Spence over the fact that Spence promotes.

827
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Spence promotes him. They're all part of the Derek James stable.

828
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Tank lots smoke.

829
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. Tank is back now thirty

830
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: years of age. I think that this fight assuming goes

831
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: his way and if it doesn't, it's a completely different story.

832
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: But if it does go his way, he is going

833
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: to set out, I think, a path for the next

834
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: two years. What are the weight classes? What am I

835
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: looking for? What matters to me? What does Tank want

836
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: to do? This is Tank getting back to business. This

837
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: is not so much Tank setting a vision for the future.

838
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? It does?

839
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: It does, And it's also a tough test to see

840
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: exactly where he's at. I do want to see what

841
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: weight classes for him moving forward. But Luke, in that

842
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: Cole Maine event, it's just really interesting. Do we all

843
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: want Benavidez Canelo? We all want that? Well, I'd give

844
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: anything for that round. Damn near give a kidney. But

845
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: it seems like Canelo is just no Moss on this topic, Luke,

846
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: and I think I have to come to a point

847
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: too publicly where we've already called out Canelo for not

848
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: wanting it. But You're right, I've got to come to

849
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: a point where I've got to start doing the public

850
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: penalizing for that. I mean, what he's doing is it's

851
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: no one.

852
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not good.

853
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: It's not cool Canelo. It's not cool, dude, all Right,

854
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: it's not cool at all anyway. So if Benavidez Luke

855
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: realizes that Canelo answer his call, it seems like Turkey

856
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: Alashikh and the Saudi Arabia money really want Benavitez to

857
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: campaign here at one seventy five and be a player

858
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: so that he can this is directly from Turkey, be

859
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: a player in fighting the winner of this inevitable bev

860
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: All versus Better before title fight. So if that's the case,

861
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: and it is, and that's big money, that's big critical

862
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: accreditation for Benevitez. I mean, what's the what's the biggest

863
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: thing you can do besides Canelo? Yeah, move up to

864
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: one seventy five, where these two legends are playing and

865
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna fight off for a super bowl sort of

866
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: undisputed clash. Vodzick, the former champion, does seem to be

867
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: the perfect test at the right time. It's only for

868
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: an interim belt, but this is sort of the perfect Okay,

869
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: what do you look like at seventy five Because this

870
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: guy is older, He's gonna look at thirty seven Vodzik,

871
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: but he's technical, Luke, He's got that amateur experience, he's

872
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: from that same Usik Lomachenko amateur era of the Ukrainian team.

873
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: I like what this test brings, but there's a lamenting

874
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: side of my heart that's like, hey, David, don't go

875
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: up to one seventy five physically where you can come

876
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: back again, Like until I see Benavidez literally knocking on

877
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Canelo's door, pissing on his lawn, doing the Tarvor Royd

878
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Jones bit, like what is it going to take for

879
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: you to take me serious? But it seems like he's

880
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: beyond that. He's that sort of said, Okay, I'm not

881
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: gonna chase you Canelo. I'm making my own.

882
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Why do you weigh in on that?

883
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Because you like that from the young competitor in Benavidez

884
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: to say I don't need you. I'm going to be

885
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: bigger and maybe he'll never get there because Canelo got

886
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: pretty big. But in his mind it's like, no, I'm

887
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: going to be bigger and badder than you, whether I

888
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: go through you or not. What would you advise, David Benavitez,

889
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: because Turkey did change.

890
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: The equation I did. I really believe he is doing everything.

891
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: If you're David Benavidez, to your point, the Canelo fight

892
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: is so attractive and so important, of course, devoting resources

893
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: in terms of your media opportunities and just asking for

894
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: generally and finding ways to get it done. Clearly it

895
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense. But in the event that

896
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: you can't get it, you cannot let it define your career,

897
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: especially now that he is, like every fight looking much better.

898
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just the difference from and they're very different opponents,

899
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: but just how devastating he will from the Plant to

900
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the Demetrius Andred fights. It was a big, big difference

901
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: for me, and how quickly he was able to move

902
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: downhill on Andred once once the fight began to turn

903
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: a little bit, And so for me charting a course

904
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: at one seventy five and easier weight class to make

905
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: physically for himself, not saying the competition is necessarily all

906
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: that easy. You're taking on a former known name that

907
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: boxing insiders realizes somewhat damaged goods, but still a credible

908
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: win should you be able to get one. He's writing

909
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: a three fight win streak, bosdik is, and so I

910
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: think he's just trying to figure out where can I

911
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: get if the Canela fight isn't going to happen. Where

912
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: can I go? That's going to give me the most

913
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: amount of legacy opportunity and then with that commercial appeal.

914
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: But Bevil and Better Beav are way more difficult fights

915
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: than canel over us at this point, especially at one

916
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: seventy five.

917
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Well, if you're David Benavidez, you probably believe you can

918
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: beat all those fucking guys.

919
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: You should you should?

920
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

921
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: And how do you not love? How do you not

922
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: love this guy? This who's got an all action style

923
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: walk you down? And the two guys guys that are

924
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: in front of him potentially A one seventy five and

925
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: BiVO and Better Beef by the way, they've got unfinished business.

926
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: They'll get to a little bit later in the October

927
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: twenty first. I believe that's right. So the point I'm

928
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to make is with a good, strong performance against Vosdik.

929
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Of course he had, he got crushed by a Better

930
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Beave himself, which ended up closing a retirement of sorts

931
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and three and a half year. Yeah, a long time.

932
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's saying I've got next with a

933
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: performance like with what I think he wants to get

934
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and that is insanely either one. Either one

935
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: either if it's Beta Vedez bival or better beef three bees. Motherfucker,

936
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be great.

937
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: This has got to get you fired up for what

938
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: Turkey's planning right there.

939
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Turkey's basically saying no one below Saudi Arabia.

940
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: It's like you and Osama Bill.

941
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: He's just like, Okay, that's aggressive. He's boxing Santa Claus

942
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: and until he breaks my heart, Luke, I've got to

943
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's giving us what we want. He's basically

944
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: saying a Canelo because it seems like Canello's turning down

945
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: the offer to fight Crawford.

946
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like that too.

947
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: So does Canelo just not want anyone to call his shots?

948
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Because I do understand that if you're a fighter and

949
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: you want the sawt of your money, you got to

950
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: let them call the shots. True, you gotta let them

951
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: call the shots to an extent, on the direction, on

952
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: the everything on that. It seems like Turkey tells people

953
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: this is who you're fighting. No one does that to Canelo.

954
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: But Canelo is going to be missing out. Look, I

955
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: think he's too young to lean on the excuse of

956
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: what I've done everything, and I don't owe you anymore

957
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: if he's thirty six, thirty seven, but he's like thirty two,

958
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: thirty three, still in the midst of it. So damn dude,

959
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if I mean boxing, Santa Claus has appeared

960
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: and Canelos still won't open the gift.

961
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Yes, well it's been, but it also appeared at a

962
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: point where he doesn't really he is his own Santa Claus.

963
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: No, but if you were, if you were the man

964
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: in the.

965
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Man, once you become your own industry, within the industry,

966
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: you are less reliant upon individual matchups.

967
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: A bad duck.

968
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: This a bad duck.

969
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: It's a bad duck, and I don't want to see

970
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: it because I respect so will I really do.

971
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Want to He's done, dude. The way he unified he

972
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: was at twenty twenty one when he finished. Yeah, the

973
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: way he unified was incredible. But we're three years past

974
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: that and we're a different point now, all right, BC,

975
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: li's move on. We can again. We're gonna be joined

976
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: by Randy Gator in about twenty minutes or so. BC,

977
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: let's talk about the UFC show. So there's a brand

978
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: new show on the Roku channel. This is a fast channel.

979
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: I just ducked into your shot. I'm sorry. What stands

980
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: for free ad supported tier? These are these channels out

981
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: of peer as long as you have a broadband connection

982
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: and or even just a television or both. They kind

983
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: of just show up and you don't. You don't go

984
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and pick what you want to watch. It's just on

985
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: like regular television, and they make money on ads. It's

986
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: a gigantic new growth market that kind of took off

987
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pandemic. But Roku has a

988
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: show now on their own channel called Fight Inc. It's

989
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: about the UFC machine, essentially BC now. In part one

990
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: of the show, the UFC execs kind of they show

991
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: a lot how fights get made, how fights fall through.

992
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: It's basically, in my opinion, taking embedded and count down,

993
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: you know, all the great things they do behind the

994
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: scenes ahead of a fight, putting them together and kind

995
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: of making a movie. Remember like when your favorite TV

996
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: show or The Simpsons would suddenly have a two hour movie.

997
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: It felt like that, taking the elements they already do,

998
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: putting it together for a three part series, and it

999
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: felt like a big movie of seeing how the sausage

1000
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: is made. And they let us see a lot of

1001
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: how that sausage.

1002
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you must know it's heavily edited.

1003
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh, it is heavily seasoned and flavored and preservatives.

1004
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean what they want to show you and what

1005
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to show you is highly curated. Be

1006
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: able to like I get to see the truth, You

1007
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: get to see little fraction what.

1008
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: They wanted to show us. That is bringing the most.

1009
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: The UFC doesn't put their stamp on anything they don't

1010
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: have creative control over. Period. Okay, that being said, it

1011
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: is interesting. It's causing quite a stir. There's lots to

1012
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: come out about it. It is, we should say, very well.

1013
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: Produced, well edited, well shot.

1014
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: People who are making it clearly know what they are doing.

1015
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: And it's by the way, I should say this, it's

1016
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: smart of the UFC to get on a fast channel

1017
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: that's entirely new growth market where you don't have to

1018
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: have a television subscription or a Netflix susp subscription. It's

1019
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: all free. That's great. It is well produced, it's premium

1020
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: content and they get to access the fans in all

1021
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: kinds of new ways. The UFC has always been very

1022
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: very good about when YouTube blew up let's just go

1023
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: on there. Reality shows are hot, Let's get one there.

1024
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Like facebo, Facebook prems. They've been very very good about

1025
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: embracing these new ways of reaching audiences, so I will

1026
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: give them credit for that. That being said, it has

1027
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: also showed how they deal with some of their fighter talent.

1028
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: And it's not to say that one side is always

1029
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: wrong or the other. But there was one incident that

1030
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: came up with al jaminer Sterling. This is before his

1031
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: about with Sean O'Malley. He ultimately lost his title in

1032
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: that contest, getting stopped and BC.

1033
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: Heavy handed.

1034
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: Well, let's just do this. Let's roll the clip, and

1035
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: then I want to ask you a question about it.

1036
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Let's take a look.

1037
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 5: So we make the fight versus a Malley. But when

1038
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 5: he goes out in the public, he just says all

1039
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 5: the wrong things.

1040
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: I still have injuries and I'm still nursing to this day.

1041
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: I announce a fight and then the first thing all

1042
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: Joe says is if my body holds up. So now

1043
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 5: you have fans going, should I buy to take us

1044
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: to Boston on a plane ticket and get a room

1045
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: because this guy might not show up.

1046
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: You're either in the fight or you're not in a.

1047
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 6: Fight, even though it's literally against my will.

1048
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: I got a call that Al Joe sounds like he

1049
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: doesn't really want to fight. All Joe's one of those

1050
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 5: guys who just can't get out of his own way.

1051
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 7: I just want you and I to be on the

1052
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 7: same page, which is you don't want to fight, Al Joe.

1053
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to fight. I'm not forcing you to fight.

1054
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: So you got to decide what you want to do,

1055
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 7: and whatever you decide, I'm cool with.

1056
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 6: So I guess where I've sit is it kind of

1057
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: puts me in a bad light where it's like this

1058
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 6: guy can't get out of his own way and kind

1059
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 6: of ruining things. And I'm like, I don't I don't

1060
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 6: get that thought process of doing that to someone who's

1061
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 6: always done whatever was accident for him to do.

1062
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: But I can tell you you're at your peak.

1063
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 7: You've looked incredible, and it's just this opportunity for you

1064
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 7: to take his audience that he has built in and

1065
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 7: introduce you to them.

1066
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: But instead of.

1067
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 7: Using the platform and the increased media coverage, it's almost

1068
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 7: like you're working against it.

1069
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: I see it one hundred percent.

1070
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I just still feel like you said, the.

1071
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 6: Communication out of the gate was kind of like it

1072
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: was a little bysiding, you know what I mean, Like

1073
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 6: I literally just fought and Dana made the fight right

1074
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 6: then and there.

1075
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: I know it's a big opportunity.

1076
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 3: My only thing, like I said from the very beginning,

1077
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: was damned. I just wish we had a conversation that

1078
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: was it.

1079
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: All right, my man?

1080
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: All right?

1081
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 5: So I guess fighters can be very paranoid people.

1082
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: The rest of it's not really relevant BC. Why would

1083
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: UFC release this footage thinking it makes them look good?

1084
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: That's sort of the issue with this whole series where

1085
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: it's heavy uh hay geography. Is that the right hey geographic,

1086
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 2: it's heavy on the propaganda infomercial Why would they show

1087
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: this when it almost feeds into some of the stereotypes

1088
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: of how they treat certain champions. Tyron Woodley A is

1089
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: a great example now Aljamain Sterling, where it's like they

1090
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: have their obvious favorites and this is how they treat

1091
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: the other ones. And if you wanted to build that

1092
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: narrative that the UFC really wanted O'Malley to win and

1093
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: really wanted him have to have his best chance to

1094
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: do it in Boston on that date, which means they

1095
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: needed a healthy Aljamain to sign off on. Could they

1096
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: put the pressure on him to convince him and would

1097
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: that help that narrative of O'Malley needs an injured al

1098
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: Jamaine who's not at one hundred percent. It feeds into

1099
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: that whether that's true or not. But here's the reason

1100
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: why I think they leave that in there to show you,

1101
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: because they spent the rest of the time praising whether

1102
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: it's Alexander Volkanowski's willingness to take the last minute Abu

1103
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Dabi rematch with Mahachev, whether it's you can name four

1104
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: or five other instances in that documentary of showing these

1105
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: guys that are in their minds savage is who will

1106
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: drop everything no matter the injury Luke. They purposely spent

1107
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: just as much time dogging aljo in that as they

1108
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: did showing that O'Malley suffered a rib injury head of

1109
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: the same fight and really harped on the idea that

1110
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: he's not going to pull out no matter what, because

1111
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, he openly sort of idolizes the path that

1112
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: McGregor put down. And there's certain fighters that they're like that,

1113
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: no matter what they're going to show up and fight,

1114
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: So Luke, I think that this plays into what did

1115
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: they want to achieve with this? Well, they certainly wanted

1116
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: to raise their profile and even more and show people

1117
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: this is the secrets to our success. Because there is

1118
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: a lot of planned dialogue, and that's my only issue

1119
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: with it. It's well shot. It's pretty interesting, especially behind

1120
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: the scenes stuff of seeing how Auta Sonia responds to

1121
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: defeat so so humbly. All that stuff's great to see

1122
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: that inside there's a lot of canned lines that Dana

1123
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: delivers that you know is sort of pre written and

1124
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: handed to him to move the segments along that just

1125
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: come out as being very hypocritical. So I think then

1126
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: them putting the the Aljo thing is they're trying to

1127
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: show people an infomercial to the future fighters too. If

1128
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: you want to make it, if you want to be

1129
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: one of the one percent of one percent who make

1130
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: it on this level and get the real money here,

1131
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: you've got to be a savage. And I think it's

1132
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: their way of showing the public, which I think is

1133
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: a horrible thing to do to your champion, to a

1134
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: guy that's still competing, and you know that see this

1135
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: guy is a whiner and he doesn't have it be

1136
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: more like this guy be more willing to take huge opportunities,

1137
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: because that's what these bosses are like, can't you see

1138
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: people from watching this? We are savages. We don't take

1139
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: days off. Like that's the message they're putting forth and

1140
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: they want that from the from the top to the bottom,

1141
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: and I understand that, but it just plays into how

1142
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: they like. Look, they did a rant about how Habib's

1143
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: so great because he's thirty six and he knows that,

1144
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: you know, the young guys need the next in line.

1145
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: If you're not willing to fight the next in line,

1146
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: you got to step aside, Like yeah, that's what a

1147
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: champion should do. But then John Jones doesn't, you know,

1148
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: he can act like how we want. So it's always

1149
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: sort of like there's a lot of that in this.

1150
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: I feel bad for al Joe because this plays into

1151
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: all those storylines. And I don't mean necessarily the story.

1152
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: After this fight he or he lost this fight, lost

1153
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: his title, had to move weight classes ultimately, I mean

1154
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: that was that was probably some degree inevitable, but like

1155
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: it's also interesting Hunter Campbell sort of seems to be

1156
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: taking the role of Lorenzo for Tita, where.

1157
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: He Joe Silva in the way they merged a little bit.

1158
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well Joe Silva was antagonistic and he Hunter

1159
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: Campbell seems a little more good cop. To me, Dana's

1160
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more bad cop. That was always the

1161
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: relationship between him and the world.

1162
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: Didn't make it seem like Hunter really pulls the strings.

1163
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Well we've known that.

1164
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like really pulls the strings. I don't

1165
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: believe that people say that wasn't the impression that he

1166
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: wasn't There are people that say, oh, Dana's just a

1167
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: front man. Now now I don't believe.

1168
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: He's not a front man. But Hunter Campbell is much

1169
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: more instrumental to day to day activities than I think

1170
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Dana would be. But the one I'm trying to make

1171
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: is when Dana and Lorenzo were around Dane, it would

1172
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: be the one who would lash out in the media,

1173
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: and then Lorenzo would be the one that will have

1174
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: a calm conversation with you. Even to me, Lorenzo came

1175
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: up to me when they announced that when when MMA

1176
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: was legalized in New York. Yes, Lorenzo came up to

1177
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: me and then was. I mean, alb could not have

1178
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: been nicer, could not have been nicer. So I think

1179
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Hunter Campbell tries to be this kind of like, I mean,

1180
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: you're all on your side, interlocutor, but I just want

1181
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: to point out, like the pressure that they put on

1182
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: these guys. Correct me if I'm wrong, BC, correct me

1183
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. When the fight was announced between Sean

1184
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: and al Jamine, it actually was not signed. They had

1185
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: a verbal agreement, but they didn't have any kind of

1186
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: written agreement. They had an announcement and he's like, well,

1187
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: now you're saying, you know, I want Aljamain saying he

1188
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: can't fight, and it's like, well, he's saying he can't

1189
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: fight because he actually isn't really sure and the turnaround,

1190
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: by the way, was not great for him. He ended

1191
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: up losing his title. He was right. All of those

1192
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: things nagging in his like his his his consciousness ultimately

1193
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: were the exact right part of it. And they make

1194
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: it out to be like you've got this opportunity to

1195
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: go like double when you're gambling, like you got you

1196
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: just made a hundred bucks, you've got an opportunity to

1197
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: double your earnings. And in the kiss, fans see this

1198
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: and in the end, the house always wins. That's really

1199
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: the reality.

1200
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: It felt dirty in that regard. It definitely promotes the

1201
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: things that they do great and that they've been so

1202
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: successful and you can't take that away from them to

1203
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: a large degree as long as you remove sort of

1204
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: the monsopsony the side of it. But Luke, there's also

1205
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: just like a lot of like I said, those can

1206
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: lines like it's cool that Dan's good to his employees,

1207
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: but do you think he really puts on this like

1208
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: employee fair. I mean, he's letting kids dunk him and

1209
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: he's given him five hundred dollars gift back. Just like

1210
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: if you're a fighter, you're literally watching the evil empire

1211
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: that that isn't cutting you in on what you deserve.

1212
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: You're watching them driving fast cars and go away on

1213
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 2: vacations and they're not the ones ever taking a punch.

1214
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying, like, it must make you feel

1215
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: like crap. So I want to play one clip and

1216
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: we can sort of bring this to a close. But Luke,

1217
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: I got to ask you before I play this clip,

1218
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: because it's going to be two segments back to back

1219
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: that are seemingly contradictory of each other in comical ways.

1220
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: Do they not see that it is? Do they not

1221
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: see the irony in here?

1222
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 5: Let's go to Dana and the reason that this sport

1223
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 5: grew so fast and got so big is because it's

1224
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: never ever about the money that happens with winning and

1225
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: with success. But it was much harder in the early

1226
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: days than it is now to not chase the money.

1227
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: But if your personal life and your professional life is

1228
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: all about money, you are going to live one miserable existence.

1229
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: That I promise you.

1230
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: If you're a.

1231
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 5: Happy person and you love your life, and you love

1232
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: getting up out of bed every day, you're the richest dude.

1233
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 8: I know.

1234
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough off the private jet, but okay,

1235
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: fair enough, he's got a real monastic lifestyle.

1236
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: Until I came to Italy.

1237
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: Free is next level.

1238
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 5: You know, all the kids are getting to the age where.

1239
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: Look at the size of that.

1240
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: Doing their own thing bit your.

1241
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 5: Hang out only as Tito brook my birthday, you're fifty

1242
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 5: four today, fifty four.

1243
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: Live a lot than that.

1244
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I thought you were turning fifty seven.

1245
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: God, we've got downstairs.

1246
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: If you and Aiden would like to play a game.

1247
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: Or two, He literally hired a local casino to bring in.

1248
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: Tables. Listen, you just get up in the morning and

1249
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: you love your life. Yep, move it all over here today.

1250
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 5: I can't even on vacation without playing sickness is real.

1251
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: I just like okay, so like, oh, BC, you're talking. Look,

1252
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: he literally literally they could have put a segue in there.

1253
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: They literally segued him saying if you live your life

1254
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 2: only about money, you know that, like this, we would

1255
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: never be here if I only live my life about money,

1256
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: to him saying the sickness is real. When he rents like,

1257
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: if you're a fighter watching.

1258
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: This, you must be like, who the hell am I work?

1259
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: All right? It's amazing to me to I mean, I'm

1260
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: waiting for the episode where they talk about the anti

1261
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: trust case. That's gonna be my favorite one because those

1262
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: papers uncovered. By the way, they just reached a three

1263
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five dollars financial settment, which should have

1264
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: been you know, ten x that. But more to the

1265
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: point that the document show, as we've been over a

1266
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: million times that they have that fighter compensation is twenty

1267
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: percent or less. We measured it as low as thirteen

1268
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: percent in certain years, and then to make the argument

1269
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: with the straight face that money doesn't matter in a

1270
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: world where you're taking that kind of cut from the

1271
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: revenue generated into trends. Shocking.

1272
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: Look.

1273
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Okay, first and foremost, Dana built his own wealth. You

1274
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: can do whatever you want.

1275
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: No one is saying Dana White should not be very rich,

1276
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: but he should be very rich.

1277
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: You're allowing a segue of a canned line about how

1278
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: you'll never be happy, you know, if you live your

1279
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: life about money to him admitting to the sickness of

1280
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: the addiction to the gambling and having a both that size.

1281
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is it's a horrible look. This is

1282
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: by all the issue with half of this uh, with

1283
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: half of this series, Luke. But it's it's an interesting

1284
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: look on the inside. It was good to see some

1285
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: in you know, some of the employees that we like

1286
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: in there and see them get some FaceTime in there.

1287
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: At Loria Sanko had a big UH had a big

1288
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: voice in that. But it was very similar to the

1289
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: to the Netflix Knnor McGregor one where they spend a

1290
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: half hour about how he's such a great husband and

1291
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 2: father lived you see.

1292
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also agree, but by the way that Christoph.

1293
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: There's a there's a guy in there who works in

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Speaker 1: the Pierre department that was a former training partner of mine,

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Speaker 1: who's a good kid.

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Speaker 2: He's a great guy, Christophy.

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Speaker 1: Christoph is one of the nicest guys.

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Speaker 2: He was in the Sean Strickland segment where they had

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Speaker 2: so very quickly.

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Speaker 1: I want to say about that was one like okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're you can be whoever and you love your

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Speaker 1: make a million dollars, who the fuck loves their job?

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Speaker 1: Like I love doing this show, but I have to

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Speaker 1: get up at four thirty in the morning and leave

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I'm lucky to do it.

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Speaker 1: Tom back, all right, we have a few more minutes,

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Speaker 1: I believe before Randy gets here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that on the dunk tank instead of

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's some of them probably could. Did you see? By

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Speaker 1: the way, we'll talk about the weekend's fights here when

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Speaker 1: we resume the conversation about it. You see Dustin Stoltzfus

1381
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: had nerve damage from his face from that elbow he

1382
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Speaker 1: took from Runl Fajerra.

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Speaker 2: That was the eighth spinning elbow knockout in UFC history.

1384
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Speaker 2: That was not really that.

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Speaker 1: Dudes had three fights and has Runal has had three

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Speaker 1: fights and all three have been fucking exciting, and he's

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna sleep him because he's so aggressive, you know,

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Speaker 1: But that motherfucker's exciting. He's super exciting.

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Speaker 2: How was the Nats game with your dad? Now that

1390
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Speaker 2: we've got a few minutes to kill here?

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Speaker 1: They won, which was better than the Mets game. I

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Speaker 1: went to a couple of weeks ago or whatever that

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Speaker 1: was when they got the Mets won nine to one.

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Speaker 1: I left when it was nine to one. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well this has gone off the fucking reels, so fuck

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Speaker 1: all that we left. It was good. Weather was beautiful, dude,

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Speaker 1: When when you know how it is when the weather

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Speaker 1: is warm but not muggy, and then the Golden Hour hits,

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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, you're in the ballpark with the

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Speaker 1: open air, great podcast too.

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Speaker 2: I know what I wanted to ask you quickly, is

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Speaker 2: this week in Vegas you and I oh Man an

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Speaker 2: MK super fan and great listener Otel Burbridge. You know

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Speaker 2: the basis for Dead and Company comes through since you

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00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: owe me and okay bet defeat in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: I do you and I could end up at the

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Speaker 2: sphere to see John may or Bob We're Otel Burbridge

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Speaker 2: and Company. Dead and Company in what I can only

1409
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Speaker 2: soon based on first hand MK. Donks who have been

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Speaker 2: there is a life changing experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be life changing in

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Speaker 1: the way you imagine for.

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Speaker 3: Me or you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think my life is changing just thinking

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Speaker 2: about it.

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00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, no see that? Do you listen to Dead

1417
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: and Company?

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Speaker 2: He's a Luke Long Island. Luke gets down the concert

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Speaker 2: scen especially nineties acts that are still playing around, Like

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Speaker 2: what who like a third eye?

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Speaker 1: Blind? Dude? You just you just agreed you were going

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Speaker 1: to a random show coming up? Which one was a

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Speaker 1: ever clear yes, which I support father of man. Yeah, dude,

1424
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: that was that they played three chords for twenty years

1425
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Speaker 1: and made a gazillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Santa Monica is a better song. We can live beside

1427
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Speaker 2: the Ocean.

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Speaker 1: All these bands that were big when we were in

1429
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Speaker 1: high school, are still making money off of like three hits.

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Speaker 2: As they should, and as we will one day'll be

1431
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: doing you know, tip to tip when we're in our

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Speaker 2: late sixties. Hopefully Luke still still playing that bit out right.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not doing that. No, no, no, I'll have

1434
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Speaker 1: fucking killed you before. Okay, okay, great.

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Speaker 2: So do you have any misgivings if we end up

1436
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Speaker 2: in the sphere this week? I mean you must.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out what drugs I can

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Speaker 1: either bring in in my tummy or in my lungs

1439
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Speaker 1: that are going to allow me to tolerate this.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen any of the videos of how seemingly

1441
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Speaker 2: transcendental the.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad because o'teal is gonna get mad when

1443
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: I say this. I have seen the videos. The videos

1444
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Speaker 1: look incredible, but then I hear the music.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you have no grounds to stand on here

1446
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Speaker 2: regarding your musical taste.

1447
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Speaker 1: It's not a mystery to me why people don't like

1448
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Speaker 1: Cannibal Corps. I understand that, yes, fully accept it, or

1449
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: hate metal in general or any kind of that stuff. Fully,

1450
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Speaker 1: I fully get it. It is a mystery to me

1451
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: why people like this music that you listen to it

1452
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: is a mystery.

1453
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: Jam band roots rock.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I don't, I genuinely don't know how you can

1455
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Speaker 1: enjoy it without an enormous amount of drugs.

1456
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Speaker 2: The intersection of rock and roll folk country.

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Speaker 1: You know, it sounds miserable, sounds misery.

1458
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Speaker 2: Do you like any dead songs? If there's there one

1459
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Speaker 2: that will come on, andy be like, you know what?

1460
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Speaker 1: I like the sublime cover of Scarlet Bogoonia.

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Speaker 2: Which is pretty bad.

1462
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: It's a good pretty it's a good cover. What's the

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Speaker 1: biggest grateful dead hit?

1464
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Probably uh in their prime truck In, but probably numbers wise,

1465
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: it was the touch of Gray in the eighties when

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Speaker 2: they came back.

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Speaker 1: So my fraternity brothers would always play truck In and

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Speaker 1: I would want to take a fucking baseball bat to.

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Speaker 2: The speaker or okay, okay, that's really aggressive. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're going on hits. But even though they have

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Speaker 2: the hits, it's more about the you know, it's obviously.

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Speaker 1: More about the live experience. Look, okay, which looks miserable.

1473
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's there's gonna be some hairy, greasy

1474
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: people that are in another world speaking to aliens, dancing

1475
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 2: around you, which is fine.

1476
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind that.

1477
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be better.

1478
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if there's one thing I understand about

1479
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: my shows and their shows, fucking weirdo show up. I

1480
01:00:59,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: get that.

1481
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Do you have any reverence for the underrated guitar playing

1482
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: of John Mayer?

1483
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: Is he in this band?

1484
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: He's playing Jerry Garcia role?

1485
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: Oh he is?

1486
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I've said it like a hundred times.

1487
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: Did he?

1488
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: He was good on Chappelle's show. Okay, do you remember

1489
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: that skip where they go to like black barbershops and

1490
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: then like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah where they

1491
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: were trying to see who dances and who does it

1492
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing. That was a good bit. That was

1493
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: a funny little bit. All right, Well this should be something, Luke.

1494
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the experience alone, I feel bad. I know.

1495
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: If Otel's watching, he's gonna make it, you know. I

1496
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: just I want to be nice to him, but I

1497
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: just gotta be honest, Like I cannot stand grateful. Dead

1498
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: might be the worst band ever.

1499
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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't stand for this at all, this this slander.

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Speaker 1: The only one who might be worse is Fish.

1501
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Speaker 2: Okay, Fish might o'teel. Maybe if you can come through

1502
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: with one that might work out even better.

1503
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: This is the deal. You're supposed to take me to

1504
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 1: a concert. I would want to go to the least.

1505
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: I think the victory for me is going to a

1506
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: concert alone. That should ory is I don't have to

1507
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: take you to a concert. See you o't ruined the

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Speaker 2: greatest experience of my of.

1509
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: My I'll go. I will honor that bet. I will

1510
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: honor the bet. I will go. I'll complain.

1511
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: You want to get into UFC Louisville as we are.

1512
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: I guess we're waiting on Randy guitar, so we'll see

1513
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: how that goes. In the meantime. BC, I'm glad you

1514
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: brought it up. Let's talk very quickly if we can

1515
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: about USC Louisville. There works some good fights over the weekend,

1516
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: so I'll start like this. Okay, we have to talk

1517
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: about the main event now. Sardine Imovov or Imovov excuse me?

1518
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: And Jared Kennoneer Jared Cannoneer. I believe was up twenty

1519
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: nine to twenty eight on two three, two of three

1520
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: judges scorecards heading into the fourth round. But the fourth

1521
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: round is where everything kind of fell apart for him.

1522
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: Now he was clearly hurt. There is no question about

1523
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: whether or not he was hurt. Basic question, by the way,

1524
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: do we have the video of it at all? Is it?

1525
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: Haven't seen a shit?

1526
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: No?

1527
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay? Either way, BC, I got great shit coming there. Okay.

1528
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: Was the stoppage in the main event premature?

1529
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: It was a bad stuck tell me why. Even though

1530
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: canon Near was visibly hurt before that. Yes, and even

1531
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: though that was seemingly a sustained sort of you know,

1532
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: knock him from pillar to post type of moment, Cannonir

1533
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: still had it together. In fact, a second and a

1534
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: half before the stoppage, Cannoneer slipped a punch and landed

1535
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: the right hook over the top. So then to see

1536
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: him get hit, not you know, overly flushed, but just

1537
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: get touched with one more shot and then herzog jumps in. Obviously,

1538
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm always going to respect the difficulty of being in

1539
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: that spot where you want to get that stoppage perfect.

1540
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: You always want to get it, you know, too, I'd

1541
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: always prefer too early than too late. But man, we

1542
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: always hate too early, right, we hate too early.

1543
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: You got to be exact.

1544
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: But Cannoneer was also rocked and wobbled at the end

1545
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: of the second round and recovered, and you got it.

1546
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like he was, you know, knocked down

1547
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 2: and barely with it. He was still on his feet

1548
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: and still protecting himself and like I said, still firing back.

1549
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: There's no justification for it. Obviously, what happened was Herzog

1550
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: saw the initial wobble that led into that sequence and

1551
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: obviously was looking out for Jared to so he doesn't

1552
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: stand there and be a punching bag or pinata. But

1553
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: in my opinion, he was covering up, he was switching,

1554
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: he was doing enough. No, that's a horrible stoppage. And

1555
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: then when you see that he's down, he's up two

1556
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to one in that point. Okay, he's probably gonna lose

1557
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: that round, but it's gonna be two two going into

1558
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: the fifth. And I believe that he would have been

1559
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,479
Speaker 2: able to clear the cobwebs and have a good shot

1560
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: at at at preventing the stoppage in that round and

1561
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: keeping himself in there because he did it two rounds earlier.

1562
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: I like the way he came back in round three.

1563
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: By the way, at forty care in a near where

1564
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: the fight was seemingly going in the wrong direction and

1565
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: he pulled it back. It is a big win for Imavov.

1566
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: But the fact that we're even talking in the postfight

1567
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: interview about potentially getting a title shot off of this,

1568
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: like like, come on, what are we doing here, guys?

1569
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: The focus I know you're not going to bang the

1570
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: drum and beat up Jason Herzogen like it's gonna happen.

1571
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: Guys are gonna miss in that moment. But he asked

1572
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: me straight up, did he get it wrong? Yeah, he

1573
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: got it wrong. He robbed a guy a spot of

1574
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: a chance to win a fight in a big moment.

1575
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: Who's forty and who knows you know how much the

1576
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: lo I mean, look is Kennan you're gonna get back

1577
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: to the top. You can make that debate in that argument.

1578
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: But he looked pretty credible in there against a very

1579
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: good opponent.

1580
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I mean, it was a little early

1581
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: for me in the sense that cannon ear was, as

1582
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned, clearly hurt right, clearly in trouble. And when

1583
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: do you pull the trigger? Like people are like, oh,

1584
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: he didn't fall, Well, you don't really have to wait

1585
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: for that, do you. Well, he didn't you know he

1586
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: wasn't He was firing back a little bit, which is true,

1587
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: although the one big shot he threw there was some

1588
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 1: more sustained offense afterwards. I just feel like BC correct

1589
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Do you feel like if Herzog

1590
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: had waited maybe another three to five seconds and something

1591
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: didn't change after that, yes, that would have been a

1592
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: little bit different.

1593
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 2: I think what went against Cannoneer was that that was

1594
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: a sustained sequence. There was like moment to moment to

1595
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: moment and kept building. Yes, but I didn't see him.

1596
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: Go out or be he doesn't have to go out.

1597
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: I get that, But like, did you see what happened

1598
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: in a couple of fights earlier and the pun LEI?

1599
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like there's some wars that were going on.

1600
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: It was the referee in that kind I don't remember

1601
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: in that moment, but it is a very good run.

1602
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't consistent with the standards. You actually don't see this.

1603
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: You see this a lot more in boxing, probably because

1604
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: there's the higher potential for head trauma and we actually

1605
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: see deaths in the ring unfortunately, so maybe there should

1606
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: be that close. So it's the thing it sticks out

1607
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: more in mma, because we don't deal with this a lot.

1608
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: In fact, if anything, we argue if it's going on

1609
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: too long. This is that rare, rare one that fell

1610
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: on this side of the dial. But I think what

1611
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: went against him was that there was this long sequence.

1612
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: But I think that sequence really has to be you

1613
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it really has to be exclamation

1614
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: point where it's like, Okay, yep, the fight's over, let's

1615
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: stop it. I didn't see that moment. He's right there,

1616
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: but he's got to be bo. I mean, look, the

1617
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: fight's moving, so he's got to be, you know, in

1618
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: the right spot. Could he get the wrong visual at

1619
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: the wrong time. Obviously, even though he's got a better

1620
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: view than us, He's a human. So I'm not saying,

1621
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, let's burn him.

1622
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying either.

1623
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't need Joan of Arc all over again.

1624
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: Also, but here's the thing I would say. I do

1625
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: feel bad for Cannoneer, who has a wintererver Sean Stripe,

1626
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: real bad for him. He has a winner. For Sean

1627
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: Strickland forty years old. This is not catastrophic as a loss,

1628
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: especially since the stoppage itself is controversial, but it does

1629
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: make climbing back to a part where you can get

1630
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: the title significantly more difficult than it already was. I

1631
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: think that's the first thing i'd say. The second thing

1632
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: I'd say is it is a good win in the

1633
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: sense of I thought Imovov was performing well overall, even

1634
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: though he was down a little bit. But at the

1635
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, dude, you don't really get much

1636
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: of a mandate from this win. It does probably put

1637
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: him into the top five space because that's where cannon

1638
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: Ear was, and so they're going to trade places from

1639
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: this in all likelihood. But it like, you didn't see

1640
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: this fight and think, oh, yeah, that guy, But let's

1641
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: let's put him to the front of the line. If

1642
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: he eventually gets up there, you couldn't knock it. But

1643
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: it's not like the kind of win where you're like,

1644
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: holy shit, you are.

1645
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: He wanted it to be that moment. I'm sure Imavov,

1646
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: who it's not his fault by the way that the

1647
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: fight was stopped, and wanted to give that moment, but

1648
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: I didn't fully see it. And Luke as a whole,

1649
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: I like the direction he's going, and Imovov's now got

1650
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: you know, considerable five round experience in terms of main

1651
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: eventing these fight nights, so we're seeing more of what

1652
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: he's really made of.

1653
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: I like a lot of it.

1654
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: I get a poor man's gay guard Musasi vibe from him,

1655
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: but I've yet to fully see what I'm exactly looking

1656
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: for that tells me true title threat. I don't see

1657
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: that yet any.

1658
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: Fair enough, there's not enough well rounded in this. He's

1659
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: a very very he's he's a real he's a real talent. Game,

1660
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: he's game. He'll give most guys a tough night. I

1661
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: also want to say this. Chris Curtis was there in attendance,

1662
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: and he was saying, because you know he would. He

1663
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: got online afterwards on Twitter and was like, guys, don't

1664
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: understand what the problem was with the stoppage, and people

1665
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: like jumped all over him. But what he explained was

1666
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: if you actually watched it from cage side, the stoppage

1667
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: looked far more justifiable. Now, there were still some people

1668
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: booing the stoppage in the end or whatever, but he

1669
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: thought like, oh, in real time watching it here, he

1670
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: didn't think it was that bad. Then you go back

1671
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: and you watch on tape and you're like yeah, it

1672
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: looks a little bit different. I cannot eversate this. If

1673
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: you've never seen an mime fight up close and watched

1674
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: it and then go back and watch the tape of it,

1675
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: they often look so different. Now Herzog obviously has the

1676
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: best seat in the house because he's in the cage.

1677
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you want to say about that,

1678
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: but some context that I think was worth mentioning. Also, BC,

1679
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: we have to mention from the USC Louisville, by the way,

1680
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: the highest gate in UFC fight night history. I think

1681
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that's price scrounging. But still, yeah, you

1682
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: see like a.

1683
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: Full crowd I wanted. It seemed like there were patches,

1684
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: so it wasn't fully they were alive.

1685
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: They were The Kentucky crowd was live, and I think

1686
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: it was nearly just a shade under twenty thousand, So

1687
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: sell it or not. It was a big crowd and

1688
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: they were live for it, and they paid a lot

1689
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 1: of money, so good for them. KFC Young Center. Dominic

1690
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: Rays did not feel good. Dominic Ray is we should

1691
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: just say it out loud. Rescued his career on Saturday,

1692
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: stopping justin Dustin Jacoby in the first round BC, What

1693
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: can you say about I can't stop getting in your camera.

1694
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

1695
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: Dom Reyis needed this, We needed this, as Don Reyis fans.

1696
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: You want to see a guy who physically is still

1697
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: at the tail end of his physical prime. You don't

1698
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: want to see it crumble the way it seemed like

1699
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: it was going for him and everything that has happened

1700
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: post John Jones fight, where yes, you can make an

1701
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: argument that that's the only time I saw a guy

1702
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: beat John Jones legitimately right, Luke is more ardent in

1703
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: that than I am in a close, very good fight.

1704
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: But it's been disastrous the reinvention attempt at the Glover

1705
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: to share a jim, you know, and then you go

1706
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: out there and you're thinking big things and it's another

1707
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: one sided stoppage defeat. He didn't get the time to

1708
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 2: show us the full package, but he got into a

1709
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: little bit of a skirmish and had had the right

1710
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: finishing package. Seemed confident, seemed like you could take a

1711
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: punch in there. Overall, when you consider that he hasn't

1712
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: had a victory in five calendar years to break this stretch. Look,

1713
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: if this is a loss in any form, he might

1714
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: be in the PFL next, right. I don't say that

1715
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: like to rip on the PFL, but they might be

1716
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: going after him like they just did Mark Gikase to

1717
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: sign him as a free agent. Name right there. He

1718
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: resurrected it, but I think he he may have exercised

1719
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: some kind of demon in doing so, because did you

1720
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: see like the celebration in the postfight interview, It felt

1721
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: like that weight he got it off of him, Luke,

1722
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: and that maybe it's a rejuvenating win in that regard.

1723
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: I think that's the most we can hope for because

1724
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: he reached a pinnacle of how good he can be

1725
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: against John Jones, and it's just been a it's been

1726
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: a dive since then.

1727
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I thought he beat John Jones, right,

1728
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: and then.

1729
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: The Blohovic fight just kind of fell apart right when.

1730
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: He was in it, and then it's been yeerie as well.

1731
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: He put his lights out and then it was a

1732
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: whole thing. I'll say this. You know what I really

1733
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: loved about this WINBC Jacoby was in his face, pressuring hard,

1734
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: and you actually watch he waits, he waits, he waits,

1735
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: and then he cracks him right in between his strides.

1736
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: So he split his timing, which is hard to do,

1737
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: but he has eyes open under duress throwing shots. Dude,

1738
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: he didn't like, you know, close his eyes and then

1739
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: just wing something or just try and like, you know,

1740
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: go square and then just brawl it out. He waited

1741
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: for his moment. He kept his composure under fire. BC

1742
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: landed the shot and then ultimately followed up and then

1743
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: finished him off. So for a guy who's been viciously

1744
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: chaoed to still have that composure under an attacking opponent,

1745
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: one who is more striker than anything else, very impressive. Yeah,

1746
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: and you could see his coach you know what. I

1747
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: loved about it too. His coaches were so happy for him.

1748
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: Who's the new team? I don't know. I don't know.

1749
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I haven't been. I candidly did not pay close attention to.

1750
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: That Long Island. Look, do you claim him on Long Island?

1751
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: Because he played college football over there?

1752
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: He was an it guy at his high school.

1753
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: But he's from where is it New Mexico is from.

1754
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Somewhere else West, I think, I'm not sure. Nevertheless,

1755
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: I was so impressed by that. I was like, dude,

1756
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: what a great win?

1757
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 7: Was it?

1758
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: The toughest opponent that he possibly could have had. No,

1759
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: but it was a good one, and it was one

1760
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: where he showed a willingness to engage the fight even

1761
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: under very difficult terms. Love that.

1762
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay, we're trying to track down Randy Katora.

1763
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about the PFL is this is very

1764
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: PFL of them to just not show.

1765
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we know, like the Connor situation, living we

1766
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: don't know. We may find out in a few weeks.

1767
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh the way, someone sent me an email about the

1768
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: Connor thing. What do you think about this? As a

1769
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: rebuttal that they think he may have had some kind

1770
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: of a cut or he was not necessarily ambulatory in

1771
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: a way that if he had shown up publicly.

1772
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I agree that that is the

1773
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: reason there was something injury slash. You know, like I said,

1774
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: if he had a black guy. Let's say he got

1775
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: caught in sparring and got a black guy. Right, He's like,

1776
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going in.

1777
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: The pump black. I don't buy Uh.

1778
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: What if it's eye closed, what if it's swollen eyes shuck?

1779
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: Can you cut?

1780
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: So? In other words, the argument would be, Okay, it's

1781
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: not bad enough to derail the fight, but it was

1782
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: bad enough to make people know.

1783
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: But but then again, we saw the picture of him

1784
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: afterwards and he was.

1785
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about the point too. It's like, if

1786
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: it's if you're saying it's not bad enough to ever

1787
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: call the fight off, who cares? Is kind of my response,

1788
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you could say we've

1789
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: talked to the doctors, we're fine, All systems go blah

1790
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: blah blah.

1791
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 2: Even if, like I said, even if the update is

1792
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: not even an update, it's just written in full PR speak,

1793
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: go on record and say. It's kind of like when

1794
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: we got no response after the Dana slapping incident or

1795
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: anything something that's controversial that they don't want to talk about.

1796
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 2: It's like, but it's you have to.

1797
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just weird. It's just weird. I don't know,

1798
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: we none of us know.

1799
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: You're a publicly traded company in ESPN.

1800
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: You kind of have to last thing on UFC, Louiso

1801
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: if we can, how about Raoul Roasas junior? Now somebody will.

1802
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: Ask you, how about Raoul Roasas junior?

1803
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: This is to me the best performance he's had. Yeah,

1804
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: but you're a can I tell you why but.

1805
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're out here trying to say that Ricky

1806
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: Tertios wasn't wasn't a not a big test, but like,

1807
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: wasn't not a big test.

1808
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: But he game and heasy, he is game. I'll give

1809
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: him that, And he is aggressive. I'll give him that.

1810
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: He has really really poorous takedown defense, and against a

1811
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: guy like Rosas Junior, who whatever or whatever else you

1812
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: want to say about him, has very good takedowns. It's dude,

1813
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: this is the thing that people keep getting wrong. This

1814
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: is these are the guys Rosas Junior should be fighting.

1815
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: He should not be fighting guys who can give him,

1816
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: at age nineteen, very difficult tests. They should be incrementally

1817
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: difficult ones, but ones he can win. That's exactly what

1818
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: he got. This was the first time I felt like

1819
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: they match made him appropriately. They give him a guy

1820
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: he could beat with his own natural style, who has

1821
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: some experienced sixteen fights. Was with seventeenth pro fight and

1822
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, to your point is going to be scoremy

1823
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: and resisting and that first round was fun. I went

1824
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: back and forth, and this is the point I want

1825
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: to make. Rosas didn't come out just fucking ah. Took

1826
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: his time. In fact, it was Tertios who was the

1827
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: one who was being, on my judgment, way too aggressive,

1828
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: and it was Rosas who calmly took us time.

1829
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: Performance so much better, Yeah, so much. But okay, so

1830
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: you're going to give him some flowers now, yes.

1831
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that he beat someone like,

1832
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: oh well, let's just fast forwards in the front of

1833
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: the division. Let's take our times.

1834
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: It's fun to watch, and he's seemingly putting it together.

1835
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,919
Speaker 1: My point is, wait, let's that's develop this guy slowly.

1836
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: We don't have to rush anything. Is he good, Yes,

1837
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: of course he's good. We don't have to give him

1838
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: guys who can stop his takedowns. We are at the

1839
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: stage where we need to be giving him guys who

1840
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: can't so that he can get various other forms of resistance,

1841
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: build his confidence, and by the time he's twenty two,

1842
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: twenty three something like that, then you can begin to

1843
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: see what's.

1844
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: Up his His wrestling and grappling is very good. How

1845
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: good is it though, because he I mean there were

1846
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: times where he would make a reversal on Tertios and

1847
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: just kind of spin him around. I mean, he was

1848
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: like ragdoll him.

1849
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: It seemed at times. Okay, I'm not sure what to

1850
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: do with that because we have Tao in thirteen minutes. Yeah,

1851
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: we can punt on that. Yeah, did you see what

1852
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: he said? Yeah?

1853
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: Kind of, it's broken up to close on Rosas. Yes,

1854
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: how good is that ground game? It seems like it's

1855
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: a good I mean it's not next level, right, it's

1856
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: very good.

1857
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: You won't know how good it is until he faces

1858
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: someone with very good resistance. Okay, you're just.

1859
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: Saying, Look, this wasn't that. You got a game, fun

1860
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: fighter in front of you, but he took care of him.

1861
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: This isn't my judgment. Some kid who you see in

1862
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: Triple A ball who's just beating the fuck out of

1863
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: those guys. Is he ready for the big leagues, like

1864
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: the real tough opponents yet? No, he's not ready for

1865
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 1: that yet, but he doesn't need to be. He's nineteen.

1866
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Just give him more experience in the octagon and he

1867
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: could put the pieces of his game together and then

1868
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: later we can see what's up.

1869
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: The crowd loves him, crowd really, I mean they went

1870
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 2: nuts after that submission win. I don't know if everybody's

1871
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: betting on him or whatever, but he seems to have.

1872
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: So I mean, look, some people clown on his pronunciations

1873
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: and and but he seems to have a very charismatic

1874
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: way he approaches it. But him getting out of that

1875
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: submission at the end of round one with the rare

1876
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: naked up on him, very calm, very systematic.

1877
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: What I mean, This is what I mean he got.

1878
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: I was very impressed by that.

1879
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: So this is what I like. He got good experience

1880
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: against a ultimately overmatched opponent, which you saw, but sure

1881
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: a resisting one, a fierce one, and it's exactly the

1882
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of experience he needs at this stage of his

1883
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: career for folks who want to see him as champion.

1884
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: This is the building block. More of this and then

1885
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: you can escalate as he goes along. That's what I

1886
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: want to see. And then the big improvement I saw

1887
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: from the last two fights he had he was just

1888
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: coming out. Ah. Yeah, he didn't do that this time, but.

1889
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: We still we didn't really get to see him strike.

1890
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: In this fight. This is what I mean. That's he's

1891
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: not we're not ready for that part of the story yet.

1892
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think it's an attraction. Every time

1893
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: he's on the card. I'm interested to seeing where he

1894
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: is in the development almost in an Aaron Pico like way.

1895
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: You're like, it's like I got to see where he's

1896
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 2: at in this.

1897
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's quickly go to topic number five. Season you

1898
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: want to leave that one off or how do you

1899
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: want to do it?

1900
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: Why don't you just take us in?

1901
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: He yeah, fine. So we had a bit of a

1902
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: combat sports weekend. There was the PFL over the weekend

1903
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: or PFL Europe anyway, there was one championship. They had

1904
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: some events over the weekend, although they were marked with

1905
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: weight missing, and there was a lot going on, and

1906
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: then of course there was also RISE in BC. My

1907
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: question to you, and I can go first of you

1908
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: want is there any one about among one Rising and

1909
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: PFL that stood out to you for any particular run.

1910
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because I saw on the

1911
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: one card which was heavy on on muy Thai but

1912
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: did bring a lot of eyeballs that seemed to the

1913
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: matchups seek Rutolo. Yes, make that change from grappling to

1914
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 2: making the MMA debut. How impressed were you by his

1915
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: first round submission? Like is he an MMA prospect or

1916
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: is this more of a grappler who's trying it out.

1917
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: No. He again, we are very very very early into that,

1918
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: and I think we're also at a stage now where

1919
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: it used to be if you were kaid Ruo Tolo Good,

1920
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: you could just go to MMA and like already start

1921
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 1: beating really good guys. MMA is not like that anymore.

1922
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: But for a debut and the clinical nature of how

1923
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: he finishes and gets to positions that he wants, he

1924
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: looked fucking awesome. I mean that that was great. I

1925
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: would actually say though that the bout that stood up

1926
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: to me that was the most interesting over the weekend

1927
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: was it didn't get much fanfare, but it was the

1928
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: rematch between Kyoji Horgucci and Sergio Yes horror, Gucci getting revenge,

1929
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: getting the getting the nod in the end, winning ultimately,

1930
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: and strangely, Sergio Pettus after the fight taking to social

1931
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: media saying a bunch of negative shit about the whole thing.

1932
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: I was actually kind of surprised by that. They seemed

1933
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: very cordial after the event was over inside the ring itself.

1934
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: Also one Archiletta losing on that card. He got submitted

1935
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: by ERPs, so so he lost, did yeah that changed

1936
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: hands but bantam yeah yeah. So in the end Horra

1937
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: Gucci getting back to his winning ways. Was I thought

1938
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: pretty I think it was.

1939
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: I don't get into the grappling like you do, although

1940
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: I'll get into anything Craig Jones related.

1941
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: You better believe that.

1942
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: Actually we probably should talk about those death threats. But

1943
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 2: Miki Mussamechi, who came fresh off the uh the Pizza

1944
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: Slice with Brandon Chob he beat the only guy to

1945
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: ever beat him, I guess is the last guy ever.

1946
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: I didn't I missed that match. I didn't see it,

1947
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: so I saw the finish and it was pretty clinical.

1948
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: Not going to MMA, right, I mean, I respect what

1949
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: these he doesn't need.

1950
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: To when you're when you're like, I mean again, the

1951
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: Rule of Tiller Brothers could be in that category as well,

1952
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: But you're worning like Mikey Musumechi, who it's like, if

1953
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing jiu jitsu, he'd be doing dungeons, dungeons

1954
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: and dragons. Probably. Yeah, I feel like that's not a

1955
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: good fit for MMA. You need a loon one whos

1956
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: a little more physically imposing as a style. Doesn't quite

1957
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: have that, But obviously his jiu jitsu is insane.

1958
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: If you're going to talk about that. We if you're

1959
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: gonna talk about Ryisin, don't you have to talk about

1960
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 2: kaya us occur to the UFC.

1961
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: I guess you don't. So it's weird, right, So, Like

1962
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: there's a theory going out there. It's not necessarily my theory.

1963
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people float it, especially guys

1964
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: who are big on prospects.

1965
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this when we talk about

1966
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: kaya because that's all.

1967
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: That's fine. What I was gonna say is this. Over

1968
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: the weekend, a guy who had attempted to become a

1969
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: triple champ name Saladan Parnas. He's still the double champ

1970
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: in KSW. He twenty five years of age, absolute phenom

1971
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: from France. Like the kind of guy. You're like, athlete,

1972
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: the whole bit again, competing in multiple weight classes. You're

1973
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: just like, damn dude, that's the guy like UFC's got

1974
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: to get. And he re signed with KSW, which is

1975
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: really strange. There's the theory out there that the UFC believes, Hey,

1976
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: if that guy pans out, he's going to end up

1977
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: here anyway. We don't need to go over paying for them,

1978
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: and we could just wait. If they're good enough, we'll

1979
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: get him wh they're ready. If not, we'll just get

1980
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: more rank and file talent. And I don't know how

1981
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: fully true that theory is, but it does seem plausible

1982
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: in certain parts because Parnas is the guy you would

1983
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: have wanted, no doubt about it, and then they just

1984
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: kind of seemingly pass on him or I don't even

1985
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: know what interest that they had. Now. The challenge to

1986
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: that is they did sign kay Asakora, who is an

1987
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: action fighter. He's very good. He will be an interesting

1988
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: addition to the one and thirty five pounds visions. Now, yeah,

1989
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: he's flawed to he's flawed as well. I don't think

1990
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna win a title in US.

1991
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: Now, but he's a firecracker who can go on.

1992
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: But it's a great addition to an already stacked weight class.

1993
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: People saying maybe if I Uppie or Yan So. Something

1994
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: to pay attention to is see how true that theory

1995
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: is that they're passing on some of these guys, dude.

1996
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Euro pm MMA is doing something really weird right now.

1997
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: There's so much demand for MMA that you can keep

1998
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 1: homegrown stars longer. UFC is not doing as many shows

1999
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: in Europe as they once did. You're seeing. Octagon had

2000
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: a stadium show in Prague over the weekend. Yes, right,

2001
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: ksw's already been doing that. They're keeping their homegrown guys

2002
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: a little bit longer, which is good for them, it's

2003
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: good for the scene there, and it's just a change

2004
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: in how prospects usually got siphoned right into the UFC.

2005
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: Now they're kind of staying put, and I wonder what

2006
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: that might do for their long term potential. It might

2007
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: be good for all parties. Kind of. It just makes

2008
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: it weird because now there's like guys who could clearly

2009
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: compete in the UFC are ready to sign, they're just

2010
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: not signing them.

2011
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,959
Speaker 2: In certain cases, I'm ready to see Kai. That's fireworks,

2012
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: that's instant fireworks.

2013
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, the Many Pakio thing, can we talk about that? Yeah,

2014
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't get this now. So Manny Pacio has a

2015
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: scheduled striking rules bout with I think they're featherweight Championshipiro

2016
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: Suzuki in but's also a rumored boxing bout with Mario Barrios,

2017
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: which I guess would be at one forty seven.

2018
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: So Mario Barrios has a secondary welterweight title I believe.

2019
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't believe he has a full one.

2020
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 2: Okay, he just you know, he's looking good lately under

2021
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: Bob Santos shout out to him. But this is many

2022
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: Pakio at age forty five, who I believe is amping

2023
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 2: up for another big run politically, looking to get another

2024
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: big fight, which look the reason why he was going

2025
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: to fight Spence, which turned into the last minute replacement Ugas,

2026
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: which is really the last time we saw Manny in

2027
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: a fight that sort of mattered write a pay per

2028
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: view that he got kind of humbled in and a

2029
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: one sided, somewhat one sided loss. I think Manny looks

2030
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: at the fights around the political season as a big

2031
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: commercial for that, but at forty five to come back

2032
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: and fight a guy who's in it, Like you know, Luke,

2033
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: I use Manny's name a lot when I talk about

2034
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: potential on fights that lean a little into the freak,

2035
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 2: And I say, Manny in this age, either you're gonna

2036
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: fight Floyd in some kind of exhibition rematch under the

2037
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: Risen banner, which has been bounced around for a while,

2038
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: or you're not. But now this seems like he's super

2039
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: serious unless he's fighting a smaller guy. In my opinion,

2040
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: with big star power where you're just looking to put

2041
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: their brands together like a I've said, Ryan Garcia against

2042
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: Manny Packeam on the past, or even Tank, which I

2043
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: know you hate. I'm almost more dumbfounded than why he

2044
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: would kind of chase after a secondary world title here

2045
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: against a guy who's live here in Mario Barrios, who

2046
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: is young and in his prime and looks to be

2047
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: getting better.

2048
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Is he broke? I don't know.

2049
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: I mean that's always been the long rumor because of

2050
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: how charitable he is and talks problems and yeah, and

2051
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: just brings hundreds of people with him everywhere he goes,

2052
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: and it's a thing.

2053
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

2054
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: I feel bad about this idea. He would have to

2055
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: shock me. I mean he shocked me at forty when

2056
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: he fought Keith Thurman on pay per view and looked

2057
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: that incredible and want to break close fight. It didn't

2058
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: shock me when he looked bad against Jeff Horne a

2059
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: couple of years earlier, because I thought that was physically

2060
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: the end. It didn't shock me when you look bad

2061
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: against Ugus because you're like, literally how long can you

2062
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: keep this up? Where your speed and your footwork is

2063
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 2: sublime to be able to hang against these guys. I

2064
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna have left, not forty five.

2065
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 2: I know he hasn't been in there taking shots inside

2066
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: of a couple of exhibitions. But this is just weird.

2067
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: It's a little weird to me to see this.

2068
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: It is I mean, wouldn't you expect him to do

2069
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't you expect a tank fight over this? Wouldn't you

2070
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: something like that?

2071
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: Kind of big? Okay, Pakia is adored, But seriously, among

2072
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: current pay per view buying boxing fans, how much do

2073
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: they want to see Pakia fight? And when I say one,

2074
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of what they'll actually spend on it.

2075
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2076
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: It's hard.

2077
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: It's hard to pin down right now. It's hard to

2078
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: pin down what's left in that? Yeah, what's left in that?

2079
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

2080
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: You you've always been higher on that than I ever have.

2081
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: Even he was supposed to fight.

2082
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: Oh as a B side. That's where I think he is.

2083
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean that if he if there's any left in

2084
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: terms of him fighting a true A side, right, it's

2085
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: it's on a true elite. I mean, it's on him

2086
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: being the B side with his name. But maybe he

2087
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: looks at Barrio is a guy who thinks he can

2088
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: be he'd have to really shock me in terms of

2089
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: where I where I'm imagining he's out at age forty five.

2090
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, I don't want to see I don't

2091
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: want to see him do what Roy Jones did, which

2092
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: is just that that twilight of hanging on when you're

2093
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: when you're too old kind of just becomes a decade

2094
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: in the half the best the worst case scenarios.

2095
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: You serious question, is there no one in influencer boxing

2096
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: he can fight at one hundred and fifty four even

2097
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: or whatever? Fucking way? Don't know what are we gonna do? What?

2098
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: I don't know who who's the smaller way to Jake Paul,

2099
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: I don't know is that even.

2100
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: By the way, they they rebooked that one for a Friday,

2101
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson about Friday, what is

2102
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: the date or Nosita eighteenth or something seventeenth, whatever Friday

2103
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: it is because I guess there's going to be a

2104
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys game there that Sunday, so they got to make

2105
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: they got to have a faster turnover. But yeah, they

2106
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: rebooked that one. By the way, they also use a

2107
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: more modern photo of Tyson this time, right than the

2108
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: one that was twenty years old. Yeah, that was nice

2109
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: of them November fifteen. Yeah, they're gonna redo that one,

2110
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be interesting on a Friday night. But

2111
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like Friday night fights. I'm a

2112
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: fan of that.

2113
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: I am a fan when you go away from the

2114
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: typical thing, especially if you're going to be going up

2115
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: against and we don't know this early of what that'll be,

2116
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 2: but if you're going up against the UFC pay per

2117
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: view or something that could potentially compete against you, The

2118
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 2: question in my mind is why when there's so many dates.

2119
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: But then again, you could put a date down there

2120
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: and someone else schedules to fight the same day, and

2121
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: what are you going to do.

2122
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: It's an open market. Look, no pay per view, It's

2123
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna be on Netflix. So it's just and by the

2124
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: way they're gonna there was rumors that they were going

2125
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: to put Katie Taylor Amanda Sorano to somewhere else during

2126
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: the course of the year. No, it's going to stay

2127
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: on this car. It's gonna still be the comin event

2128
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: they're moving it back with there's still they're still main

2129
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: Comaine as a as a pair. How you don't know there,

2130
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just trying. We're setting up.

2131
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, Luke, we were unable to pull Randy Coutur.

2132
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: So sorry for promising that to the audience. But we

2133
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: do have Tao fi Mo Lopez in a few moments

2134
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: here as we are beginning the connection process.

2135
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: But he is coming through.

2136
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah we will okay him o the WBO one hundred

2137
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: and forty pound title holder who's got to fight coming up,

2138
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: and you know we got it. Yeah, We've got him.

2139
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: We're going to connect.

2140
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: Hims have to speak. You know, that was a remember

2141
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 2: the last fight a Vince Jermaine Ortiz.

2142
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: That was tough fight, a fight, tough style to fight against.

2143
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: In that rgat Jamae Ortiz is one of those guys

2144
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: where he doesn't necessarily win all the big ones, but

2145
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: he makes every guy look It's hard to look good

2146
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: beating him. I'll put it that way right. Indeed, indeed,

2147
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: it's like Phil Davis. But Phil Davis is hard to

2148
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: beat and look good doing it.

2149
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: It's not a marketable style though. I think Ortiz could

2150
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: be better if you mix in more offense. Yeah, I

2151
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,480
Speaker 2: think he you know, I think that was a frustrating

2152
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: style to very fun. Sometimes you got to survive in advance,

2153
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: and Tao did that last time, and he was coming

2154
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: off that sublime performance and taking the title from Josh

2155
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Taylor and really announcing himself at one hundred and forty pounds.

2156
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: So be interested to see as he approaches this July

2157
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: twenty ninth return. We'll be talking to him in a

2158
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: few moments. But you get by this one and those

2159
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: big fights are going to be calling once again. I mean,

2160
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: Tao is still one of the most electrified in and

2161
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: around this pound for pound.

2162
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: This is the last fighter in his top rank, deal, correct,

2163
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I believe that's right.

2164
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 5: Now.

2165
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: We'll see him and Bob Hum and Bob are doing

2166
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: the photo together, seeing.

2167
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: That him and grandpa. Yeah yeah, and you shut the

2168
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: fuck up, John p Yeah, Preck, that was judges.

2169
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: That was atrocious. I'll never bring another American fighter over here.

2170
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: M M A is for skinheaded white guys, isn't it?

2171
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Who like watching skinhead white guys?

2172
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Didn't say it was gay skinheads. We're just kidding.

2173
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Back then, people did say stuff like that back in

2174
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: like twenty ten. But yeah, Preck, yeah, little Preck. Yeah,

2175
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 2: little yet, Little Precy. Shout out to this great T shirt.

2176
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: By the way, Arnold Allen's dad, pascer Alan made by

2177
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: fresh Bird Ship included made by Average Joe Ard. I'm

2178
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: sure you could probably purchase his son somerom Arnold Allen

2179
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: merch site right there, one of our favorite fighters. Hey,

2180
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: some fans are asking, Luke, will they ever see a

2181
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: room service diaries again?

2182
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: This weekend? We'll do one?

2183
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a that's a RSD one point zero.

2184
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Oh you mean like the old chi to get the

2185
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: two point oh back on the road too. Eventually soon,

2186
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2187
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll be back this week.

2188
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: So we're going to give people live show Thursday, Live

2189
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: show Friday room service diaries.

2190
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: We're going to hit them where it counts, Luke.

2191
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: All right, right below the bell, you know, that's right

2192
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 2: long Island. Luke, how are we doing over here?

2193
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,440
Speaker 1: They're trying to get it situated.

2194
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 3: All right.

2195
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: We've had some technical difficulties today, Luke. But that's the

2196
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: life cycle.

2197
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: Listen. When you book live interviews, you know, it's like

2198
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: it's like it's like going to war. They're not all

2199
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: going to be here at the end.

2200
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, you may step on a land mine.

2201
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 1: It just doesn't it just doesn't work. It just my

2202
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: experience has been, it just doesn't work out that way. Luke.

2203
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Did you ever fear for your life as a marine

2204
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: at any point?

2205
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 3: No?

2206
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: No, okay, that's good. Was I supposed to do? I

2207
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know if you.

2208
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Were like somewhere like the a bomb, you know, a

2209
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 2: grenade went off and during basic and it was close

2210
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: to you.

2211
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely did you know. We've done. I've

2212
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: done grenade throwing. We did before the Everyone's like, what's

2213
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 1: the coolesting ever fired? I mean, obviously the howitzer was

2214
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: the big one, but in terms of like you know,

2215
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: firearms such as you can call it that. It was

2216
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: the Mark nineteen grenade launcher. So this is a grenade

2217
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: launcherhe we have to sit and it's a butterfly trigger.

2218
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: So it's two handles here and then it's a butterfly

2219
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: trigger like this, yeah, and your feet you have to

2220
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 1: go on the essentially the thing that holds it, and

2221
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: it's belt fed. It's belt fed grenade launcher. Do you

2222
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: hold it? It just goes and it's just shooting out grenades.

2223
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: That's pretty fucking cool. Where did you do your basic

2224
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: parasound South Carolina? They're, oh shit, that's like sergeants slaughter territory. Yeah, yeah,

2225
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the case.

2226
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 2: He didn't really serve. Do you think that's a violation,

2227
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: like you are against stolen valor from because because it's

2228
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: his character, so he's sort of made it part of

2229
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: his story, even though I don't think it's actually part

2230
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 2: of his story. But other people have done that, They've

2231
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: claimed service when they haven't, you know, prominent people.

2232
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do that. Ship. It is a whole lie.

2233
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 2: That's just what I want from the UFC.

2234
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Tell the truth? Is that too hard? Apparently?

2235
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: But then people get on us and they're like, well,

2236
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 2: why didn't you guys tell the truth when you were

2237
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 2: going through that long divorce with the other cups.

2238
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Well, also, the divorce isn't even over you. That's why

2239
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: still going through We're literally every fucking day still going

2240
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: through it. That's why. Yeah. But you know, we won't

2241
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: talk bad about mom or Dad.

2242
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2243
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's anything negative to say, per se.

2244
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're not even done. We're not even

2245
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: fucking done with it yet. It's still ongoing.

2246
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: So is that a real Madrid champions jacket?

2247
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: No, I got just one, a few, I mean every

2248
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: real Madrid jackets a champions.

2249
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Who is your favorite real Madrid player? Well, currently you

2250
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: can't say m bebe.

2251
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: I want to say so many insulted. Yeah, I would

2252
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 1: probably say Vinnie Vinnie Junior.

2253
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, is he from what country?

2254
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Brazil? Brazil? Okay, okay, got them? Yeah, let's do it

2255
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: all right, let's connect that.

2256
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate your hard work back there, Long Island and Luke,

2257
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in my favorite guest that we have

2258
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 2: recurring on the show. He's the most electrifying man in boxing.

2259
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:06,919
Speaker 1: In my takeover.

2260
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the takeover, it's Tayo Fema Lopez Junior. He is

2261
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 2: WBO and Lineal Junior Welterweight champion and he'll be back

2262
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: on ESPN June twenty ninth in Miami defending that WBO

2263
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: strap against Steve Claggett. Let's bring him in right now.

2264
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 2: The Takeover is back at it.

2265
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Tayo.

2266
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: We love chatting with you. You survived in advance against

2267
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Jermaine Ortiz and it wasn't easy, But the landscape in

2268
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 2: boxing is looking very rich at the moment and you're

2269
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: a big player in that. How you feeling great to

2270
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: have you back on the show.

2271
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: My guy?

2272
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 8: Oh man, I'm doing great, man, And I don't know

2273
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 8: if I survived it because it was too easy in

2274
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 8: the sense.

2275
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 3: Of a guy and I wanted to fight with me. However,

2276
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing great man. Staying on top. That's where we

2277
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 3: need to be. The King States King and all in all,

2278
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: generosity of everything.

2279
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 8: Man, I'm looking forward to gave the five fans what

2280
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 8: they're looking for, and that's just great fights, great exhibitions

2281
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 8: in all these types of ways, and just putting on

2282
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 8: an entertainment for the fans out there and to all

2283
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 8: the fight fans that are watching.

2284
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what can we expect from you? In Miami on

2285
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 2: June twenty ninth. There Steve Claggett is a name we know.

2286
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Is he in your league?

2287
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Is this going? What do you expect?

2288
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: What are your expectations style wise when you two touch

2289
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: gloves there in Miami?

2290
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 8: Oh, Stylistically, this guy is gonna come straightforward fighter.

2291
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of punches.

2292
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 8: I've seen him stop a lot of fighters, you know,

2293
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 8: and this guy is number one in Canada.

2294
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 3: And on top of that, this guy's a natural one forty.

2295
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 8: Seven pound to come into one forty And on top

2296
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 8: of that, despite his record and everything else, this guy

2297
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 8: is top fifteen, top twenty in my weight division. So

2298
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 8: you know, I'm looking at fighting.

2299
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 3: The best of the best.

2300
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 8: As always, we wanted those champions like the likes Sabril Mattias,

2301
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 8: Izak Cruz, and even Devin Haney at that one particular time,

2302
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,440
Speaker 8: Devin had that situation with Ryan Garcia.

2303
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 3: However, the whole Austrian situation happened the way it did.

2304
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,959
Speaker 3: But you know, we wanted these guys who wanted.

2305
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 8: To fight the champions to make a unification about and

2306
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 8: they have their own agenda.

2307
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 3: So you know, this is who we're facing is Steve Klaggett.

2308
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 8: It no pushover, no no, no slouch really, and I

2309
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 8: know this guy is like a Rocky ba Ball movie

2310
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 8: for him. So you know, this is my moment right

2311
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 8: here to really show why I should stay on top

2312
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 8: and be number one as I am.

2313
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: Taylor, did I hear correct the record? Is this your

2314
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: last fight with top rank?

2315
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 8: I believe that's your course Stevenson. You know, I believe

2316
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 8: course Stevenson is his last fight July sixth at the

2317
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 8: what is it.

2318
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 3: In New Jersey? For myself, you know, you just never know.

2319
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 8: You know, a lot of things that are changing, a

2320
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 8: lot of things are are happening the way they need to.

2321
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm just staying focused right now.

2322
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 8: You know, I told I spoke with Jeremy from Top Rank,

2323
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 8: and I spoke to a lot of the chairmen from

2324
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 8: Top Rank, and you know, we have good relationships more

2325
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 8: than ever now, you.

2326
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 3: Know we haven't. We having a lot of great communication

2327
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 3: on that end. And for me, I just told them, listen,

2328
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 3: I just want to stay active this year.

2329
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 8: Put me with whoever, anyone. I don't really care. These

2330
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 8: other guys don't want to fight me.

2331
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: Obviously.

2332
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 8: It is showing if you really tap into the sport

2333
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 8: of boxing and in the business field. So right now,

2334
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 8: you know, I'm looking at fighting three to four times

2335
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 8: this year, and so far we're on the right course

2336
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 8: and without any injuries, thank the Lord above.

2337
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to a great night.

2338
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: Are you only wanting fights at one forty or would

2339
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: you jump around up or down weight classes depending on

2340
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: the opponent.

2341
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: If it permits. You know what I'm saying.

2342
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 8: My main goal at this moment is to have that

2343
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 8: triple crown, and that triple crown for me is Terrence Crawford.

2344
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 8: You know a lot of people laugh at that. Yeah, really,

2345
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 8: a lot of people laugh at that. A lot of

2346
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 8: people say this though, you're not ready, and this and that.

2347
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 8: But like they said the same thing for me with

2348
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 8: Josh Taylor, they also said the same thing for me,

2349
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 8: for the City Limchenko and for Richard Kolemee.

2350
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: So you know, and look how those outcomes came out.

2351
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 8: I'm just someone that likes to face the best Sarmis

2352
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 8: Crawford is one of the best fighters in the world

2353
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 8: to this day, and and I know that, and that's

2354
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 8: the type of person person really I want to face.

2355
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 8: You know, that guy has every type of style that

2356
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 8: you could really adapt to, and I want to test

2357
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 8: my limits with him.

2358
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: How do you think his fight with Madromov goes.

2359
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 3: I believe it goes the way it needs to go.

2360
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: You know, his this is his first fight at one

2361
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 3: fifty four.

2362
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 8: He's moving up slowly but surely so that he could

2363
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 8: get that mega fight check with Saoul Canelo Alvarez. You know,

2364
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 8: it's part of his his it's part of his route,

2365
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 8: in his in his way of trying to leave the

2366
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 8: game at on top, which I respect him for. However,

2367
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 8: you know, you got guys here closer to your weight

2368
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 8: division that are willing to face you and fight you.

2369
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 8: You know, and I believe that this is the reincarnation

2370
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 8: of the Rand and Leonard you know two point zero.

2371
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 3: This is TEO female Crawford will be that. So why

2372
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 3: not give the people what they really want to see?

2373
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 8: And we're much closer in weight classes. You know, I

2374
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 8: believe Crawford is going to do what he has to do.

2375
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 8: I believe he may stop the guy with a body shot.

2376
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 8: And but this guy is no clouts as well, you know.

2377
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 8: So you know we're we're so hard on everybody, everybody

2378
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 8: so hard on us. Little do they know though, we're

2379
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,480
Speaker 8: facing tough, tough oppositions.

2380
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no fight is going to be a cakewalk.

2381
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 3: We know that.

2382
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: When you mentioned Crawford, I want to ask her, are

2383
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: you're talking about forty seven or one fifty four? And

2384
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 2: when you're talking about and I love that you're talking

2385
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 2: about this, that you're you want to fight the guy

2386
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: who men think are the best in the world. What

2387
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 2: do you think you bring that he hasn't seen? So

2388
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 2: it's a two part question there.

2389
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,560
Speaker 8: Well, to start with your first question, I believe that

2390
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 8: fifty four I can make for Crawford.

2391
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't mind. I give him upper hand.

2392
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 8: You know, he's the champion, He's the guy that is

2393
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 8: the so so so quote unquote the first two time

2394
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 8: male undisputed champion of this era. So you know he

2395
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 8: has that a side resume, you know, So I'll give

2396
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 8: him that. I know where I stand, I know who

2397
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 8: I am. And then to answer the second part of

2398
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 8: the question, I believe that with Crawford and all these things,

2399
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 8: my speed, speed, power, IQ, I'm not even in my

2400
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 8: prime yet, which is a scary thing.

2401
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 3: And I faced a lot of those tougher oppositions younger

2402
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 3: than he did.

2403
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 8: You know, he's on his way at what thirty five,

2404
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 8: thirty six, you know, and age is nothing but a number,

2405
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 8: of course.

2406
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 3: However, it's the opposition that I did at twenty two,

2407
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 3: twenty three, twenty four. Now I'm twenty six. So so

2408
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 3: all those things ended up becoming my best asset because

2409
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 3: I face top, top, top tier fighters, champions, undisputed champions.

2410
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 8: So for a guy like Crawford, I believe that I

2411
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 8: have all those things to match with him and do better.

2412
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 8: And I'm younger and pretty and handsome, you know, and

2413
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 8: I love my style.

2414
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 3: I got a lot of swag to it.

2415
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: You're a pretty handsome dude. That's what we talk about

2416
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 2: in the show all the time. Taloe Fema, no question. Look,

2417
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 2: we got to talk about the elephant in the boxing

2418
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: room Saudi Arabia. Because fans are fired up, their dream

2419
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 2: fights are being made. Us as journalists are going. I

2420
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 2: guess we're pretty fired up too because our dream fights

2421
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: are being made. I haven't seen you get that huge

2422
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 2: bag yet. But what is a businessman like you think

2423
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: about what's been going on over the past few months

2424
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 2: and a year really of this takeover from Turkey ala

2425
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: Chicon Company.

2426
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 8: I mean A is very well, you know, his excellency

2427
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 8: you know of Turkey. I think he's doing a great job.

2428
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 8: You know, obviously it shows you know, you have Oscar

2429
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 8: de la Hoya now and Mikes wanting to do that

2430
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:05,520
Speaker 8: five versus five with Top Rank and Golden Boy promotions.

2431
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 3: So you see a lot of things progressing in the sport.

2432
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 8: You know, everyone wants to finally get their hands involved

2433
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 8: with turkey, which is a great thing. You know, it

2434
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 8: kind of extends the duration of boxing and not dying. So,

2435
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 8: you know, for him, I really appreciate that he's doing

2436
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 8: a great job with our sport.

2437
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: He loves the sport.

2438
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 8: Obviously he knows who has that it factor, you know,

2439
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 8: and obviously he has an eye on me.

2440
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 3: However, things are just the way they are at the moment.

2441
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 8: I just got to keep doing my part, keep entertaining

2442
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 8: the crowd, keep putting seats, keep putting butts in seats,

2443
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 8: and then from there, you know, we see where everything progresses.

2444
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 3: From there. Maybe he will listen to me and have

2445
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 3: that Crawford fight happen instead of Canelo. But we'll see

2446
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 3: what happens in the near future.

2447
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Take your femal, what's gonna happen this weekend when Jervonte

2448
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: Davis is back against Frank Martin, who wins and why?

2449
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,679
Speaker 8: Like I said before in a previous interview, and I'll

2450
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 8: say this here on Live, I believe that, listen, Frank

2451
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 8: Martin is not a slouch, and I'm not gonna take

2452
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 8: that away from him and discredit everything that he's done.

2453
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 8: So far to get to the fight with Javonte Tank Davis. However,

2454
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 8: there is it. However, there's a lot of respect there.

2455
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 8: You know, you can see it when they're talking, you

2456
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 8: can see it. And and and Tank is someone that

2457
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 8: likes to get into your mind. And if he gets

2458
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 8: to your mind in those pressers and stuff like that,

2459
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 8: he's kind of winning half the battle right there. You know,

2460
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna I know everyone is going looking away

2461
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 8: from Frank Martin. I believe that Javonte has what it

2462
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 8: takes to beat him. Obviously, it's it's probably it's more

2463
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 8: profounded for him to win in an outclassing way than

2464
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 8: than it is from Frank Martin.

2465
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 3: I believe that Frank needs to really really just bite.

2466
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 8: Down on that mouthpiece. And obviously, if he does get hit,

2467
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 8: you know, snap around it. You know, that's a wake

2468
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 8: up call and work through it.

2469
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 3: You know, Tank is very.

2470
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 8: Tank is very lazy in there, but he's just waiting

2471
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 8: for that one good shot to really finish the fight,

2472
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 8: you know, because he has that, you know, and that's

2473
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 8: nothing bad, that's just a gift that you know, he has.

2474
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 3: He's worked very hard for it. I believe that Tank

2475
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 3: finishes him less than six Wow.

2476
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, bold prediction right there. All right, we're going

2477
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: to see you back.

2478
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 8: You look at the you know, you look at how

2479
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 8: everything looks, and yeah, you kind of see it for

2480
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 8: what it is.

2481
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to see you in Miami June twenty ninth,

2482
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 2: ESPN Steve Claggett, you'll defend your title. Let me ask

2483
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 2: you this because you put to close. You brought up

2484
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,480
Speaker 2: an interesting scenario in which people want Canelo to fight Benavidez,

2485
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 2: but it seems like he won't, So then people want

2486
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: him to fight Crawford and it kind of seems like

2487
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: he won't, and you're willing to slide in and fight Crawford.

2488
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: And we talked about that, and that's badass. That's going

2489
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 2: on with Big Red. We love Canelo, we all do.

2490
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 2: From a fighter's point of view, is the stances he's

2491
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 2: taking are they justified? Or despite everything he accomplished, should

2492
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 2: he still be fighting Benavidez and Crawford because that's what

2493
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: the fans in history seems to want.

2494
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 8: You know, I believes that no matter what Canelo soul,

2495
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 8: Canelo does, He's done so much really in the sport

2496
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 8: of boxing thus far. He is the face of boxing

2497
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 8: and whether people like it or not. So he faces Benavidez.

2498
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 8: Let's say he faces Benavidez, he does what he has

2499
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 8: to do with Benavidez. People are always gonna say, well,

2500
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 8: he didn't fight Crawford. Then he goes and faces Crawford,

2501
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 8: he does what he does with Crawford. Well he didn't

2502
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 8: fight this guy. Oh he didn't fight that guy. And

2503
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 8: so obviously Canelo understands his line of work, he understands

2504
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 8: his career, and the guy is basically saying, I do

2505
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 8: whatever I want because I've earned that. You know, however,

2506
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 8: is it an eye candy look for all the fight

2507
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 8: fans around the world.

2508
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

2509
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 8: But there's a point in time where you go from

2510
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 8: a want to a need and the guy just needs

2511
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 8: to just stay active.

2512
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 3: That's really it.

2513
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 8: Whoever he faces, people are still gonna sit down and

2514
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 8: watch him. You know, maybe maybe those fights will happen

2515
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 8: when I'm not taking that away. You know, those like

2516
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 8: great oppositions, Those are great fights, those are mega, mega

2517
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 8: fights for the sport of boxing.

2518
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 3: It's a great look for us. You know, I'm hearing a.

2519
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 8: Lot of you know, boxing is dying. I'm hearing a

2520
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 8: lot of that MMA is taking over. But to this day,

2521
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 8: if you look at it on Google search, boxing is

2522
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 8: the toughest sport in the world for a reason. You know,

2523
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 8: this is not nothing that to take like me. So

2524
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 8: for us, I will Canelo Ovaris. Honestly, the guy's made

2525
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 8: over one hundred million dollars in his career. God could

2526
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 8: do whatever you want.

2527
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, tel, you don't mean that. I mean,

2528
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 2: that's a respectful answer, but come on, face the smoke.

2529
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 2: Give us that better, Vin, This is what we want.

2530
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, if you were in the shoes, I think

2531
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 2: you take the fight. But that's just me being a

2532
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: bullshit right here.

2533
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry about that.

2534
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 3: No, it's not bullshit. I believe that.

2535
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm that guy. But we don't know what Canelo,

2536
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 8: what his deals are behind the scenes. We don't know

2537
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 8: if he's not allowed to face him, you know, behind

2538
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 8: the scenes. True though, a lot of people, you know,

2539
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 8: a lot of people don't know how tied in. A

2540
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 8: lot of big people are intwoer just for the boxing.

2541
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 3: So maybe he does.

2542
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 8: I don't believe that he's scared of anybody. I mean,

2543
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 8: he faced Floyd Mayweather at twenty three years young, you

2544
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 8: know so, and that was Floyd really on his peak

2545
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 8: of in his prime, like pinnacle of his career. So

2546
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 8: imagine that, you know, I don't think that the guy

2547
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 8: is scared to face these dudes. I just believe that,

2548
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 8: you know, there's someone in the back that is making

2549
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 8: sure that it doesn't happen.

2550
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,719
Speaker 3: It's business, they say quickly.

2551
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: I know you got to go very quickly. What is

2552
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: the funniest or meanest thing that Bob aram has ever

2553
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: said to you?

2554
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 2: Shot the fuck up?

2555
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: Shot the fuck up.

2556
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 3: He called me a schumuck. He was like that that's

2557
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 3: probably the media mediest thing that he told me.

2558
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 8: Because you know, I said, I I talked about why

2559
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,679
Speaker 8: not having you know, at the time undisputed one thirty five,

2560
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,839
Speaker 8: myself and then undisputed champion at that time, Josh Taylor,

2561
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 8: Well we face each other. And that was the come

2562
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 8: up of two times disputed, and that was in front

2563
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 8: of Mariso Silliman, and it was on an interview and

2564
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 8: Bob Aaron on my left side, and Bob was like,

2565
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 8: you don't know what you're talking about, you schmuck. And

2566
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 8: I was like, but wait, isn't it possible to happen?

2567
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 8: And then little did we know what was it? Jamel Charlow,

2568
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 8: who was an undisputed champion, ended up fighting saou Canelo

2569
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 8: Alvarez for the same situation, which I kind of found like,

2570
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 8: am I really a schmuck or I'm just ahead of

2571
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 8: the curve.

2572
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 2: So we'll see I've been ahead of the curve for

2573
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: a while. June twenty ninth, ESPN from Miami, Tayo Female

2574
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 2: Lopez is back against Steve Claggett tail.

2575
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 3: Thank you always, thank you, oh, thank you so much.

2576
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 3: Don't miss the fight. June twenty ninth in Miami, ESPN.

2577
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: Let's go there.

2578
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 3: It is here.

2579
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 2: It is a good fella.

2580
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 1: Indeed, way people are riding me left and right. They're like, dude,

2581
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 1: Connor's injured. That's what it is now. They don't have

2582
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: a great explanation injured. He's injured. Well, here's the thing

2583
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, he's not. I just don't understand if

2584
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: he was injured before. And remember they said that the

2585
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: press Convererce was postponed. You can't just look at another

2586
01:47:59,479 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: week later.

2587
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is just it feels just the handling about.

2588
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Listen, I have no fucking idea. You guys are all

2589
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 1: probably right, you know more than me, and I mean

2590
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: that's sincerely. It's just if it is an injury, I've

2591
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: never seen I'll say it this way. If it is

2592
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: an injury, I've never seen UFC handle it this way.

2593
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: I know, not at this way.

2594
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 2: That's just like a two thousand and seven reaction from them.

2595
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 2: This is like something that's just like so.

2596
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not. I don't know what it is.

2597
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: I just find if it is an injury, it it's

2598
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: a weird way to handle it. That's all I'm saying.

2599
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: That's all.

2600
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 2: You love that part of that Roku thing when they're

2601
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 2: like Dana fucking hates the media, but the media love him,

2602
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like.

2603
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 3: Not so sure.

2604
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 2: All right, well look that brings us to the shitty

2605
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 2: part of this show. But like you know, like when

2606
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: you know you could say bad, but it really means.

2607
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 1: I did not take a dump in there. Good. I

2608
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 1: hope I did not. I did not take it back.

2609
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 2: I've scoured the globe and I talk a big game

2610
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: here that I brought it.

2611
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: I hope I brought it. This week.

2612
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 2: I I've got the good, the bad, the ugly, the

2613
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 2: the odds and enz in betweens, whatever we usually say

2614
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 2: in the combat sports and beyond. This is my feasts.

2615
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen it?

2616
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,799
Speaker 2: Looke? Don't you love when they get great UFC moments

2617
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 2: where we couldn't hear the audio. We just saw the

2618
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 2: camera and then they'll put it out later with the

2619
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 2: subtitles underneath. They did this, and they captured a great

2620
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 2: meeting between Joe Rogan and Donald Trump at UFC three

2621
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 2: oh two. Let's see the subtitles to see their conversation

2622
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 2: any right now, it's.

2623
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 4: Pretty staggering, and you had to imagine that's what was

2624
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 4: gonna happen.

2625
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what trumble will happen, Sugarcoat.

2626
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 2: He grabbed that situation by the.

2627
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 7: You know.

2628
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: Those jokes, I get like three jokes on rotation at

2629
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, That's where I'm at.

2630
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's go to UFC Louisville where the

2631
01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 2: crowd did deliver.

2632
01:49:59,200 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 7: Here.

2633
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Ricky Terios though refuse to touch gloves with Raoul Roseas

2634
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 2: and I tried to kick him, Luke.

2635
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, a bit of a firecracker this guy.

2636
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 2: There were some fire between them and the build up,

2637
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 2: but I enjoyed, Dude. I like Ricky tertios her from Tough.

2638
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:11,600
Speaker 1: He brings it.

2639
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm a I'm a Tertio, super fat, wear a

2640
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 2: T shirt.

2641
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm more of an iliot poor guy. Yeah, yeah you are.

2642
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 2: Is he a real Madrid fan too? Oh yeah, this

2643
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 2: is all coming together. Is he a hardcore metal fan too?

2644
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 7: Well?

2645
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 2: If he is, then you know he does like BBLS.

2646
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Right, you are kind of patterning your life. I think

2647
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: any real heterosexual man. Okay, here we go, here we

2648
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: go with that. So some guys like lunch ladies, I

2649
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: don't look.

2650
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 2: Can you translate what Raoul Rosas was saying here in

2651
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: the celebration chew?

2652
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: I have not picked up on this lesson in Rosetta

2653
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 1: Stone yet. Okay.

2654
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 2: He would go on to say one of his high

2655
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 2: school friends, that's their their catchphrase, cheewee wee. It's like

2656
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 2: that Chuwpoppi Mounino guy on Instagram.

2657
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: So I do know that, like inside Mexican culture, they

2658
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 1: have like what they call the grito, like like a scream,

2659
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, not scrub, the scream, like a yell yeah,

2660
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: yell yes. So maybe there's something to that. I don't know.

2661
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll see what happens with that.

2662
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going over here to Bruno Fijeda. We

2663
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: mentioned the eighth spinning elbow knockout in hell. Dude, Sophist

2664
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 2: did take it, though he stood.

2665
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: Dude, these guys are all tough as ship. Damn.

2666
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's a hammer, I know.

2667
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean that would have had you and me and

2668
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 1: the fetal ship in ourselves.

2669
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 2: Maybe Jason Herzog was affected by this because he did

2670
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 2: ref this fight.

2671
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: Maybe who knows, I don't know. He's a pretty experienced ref.

2672
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: But that was you know, he was gave Rosch Marcosy

2673
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 2: a broken rib in the in the in the referee

2674
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 2: seminar they did.

2675
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:38,919
Speaker 1: Was that pre your post plagiarism?

2676
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not. I don't accept that's my friend, Luke.

2677
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 2: Let's go over to uh Andrea Lee had a kissing

2678
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 2: booth in her corner between rounds and her split decision

2679
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 2: lost to Montana Dela Ross.

2680
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: Okay, was that the guy who said a bunch of

2681
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 1: racist ships? I don't know.

2682
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't know who she's dating. I think that was

2683
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 2: Tracy Cortez in her corner as well. But everybody got

2684
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 2: a little whoch action on that.

2685
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: That's how we start MK.

2686
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Mike Perry started that with coach Littori, right.

2687
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he he is a pioneer in

2688
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: many ways.

2689
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 2: He is also Luke, w W E and UH and

2690
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: UFC crossed over this weekend. T k O had SmackDown

2691
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 2: in Louisville on Friday night. FIGHTE night in Louisville on

2692
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: Saturday night at the KFC Young Center. Let's go to Friday.

2693
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 2: Here's your announce team. Look at Brendanford. Still, this was

2694
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 2: exactly what I would do if the camera was on

2695
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 2: me out of ww event. Ready for it.

2696
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's called the crotch, the b X crotch child X. Yeah.

2697
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Do you know who was in D generation X one

2698
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest. The only one I know is what's

2699
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: his face? The guy who runs the organization now triple H. Yes,

2700
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody else. Shawn Michaels, Sean Michaels was

2701
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Okay, China. Oh wait, but wasn't

2702
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: the other guy also in that that everyone hated.

2703
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 2: Uh X POC yes or yeah, he's he He changed

2704
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,719
Speaker 2: his names when he goes back and forth. Yeah, Okay,

2705
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 2: there it is, Luke. Also Luke, we're gonna move on

2706
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: here to a clip that I'm gonna put in. Have

2707
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 2: you seen the ship Hall of Fame based on fandoman

2708
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Eddie Hall the strong man making his mma gave you

2709
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 2: yes against two small men?

2710
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 8: Hoe?

2711
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh my, look, this was the hold that.

2712
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 1: Hold that bitch.

2713
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: This even made it to my kids. Dude, everyone's talking

2714
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: about this clip. What promotion is this?

2715
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: I don't know who gives a ship This is just chucking.

2716
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Look look at him, hold that bitch.

2717
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 2: It's like Andre the Giant at the end of the this.

2718
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: Can I be honest about this? The first time I

2719
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: saw this clip because Eddie, Eddie is not so people

2720
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: who don't know this. The best strongmen in the world

2721
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: are typically like six four in taller, and then they're

2722
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: usually high three hundred or beard. He's like six '

2723
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: nine and it is peaky was like four fifty.

2724
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: We should ask tale female about that body shot from

2725
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:44,759
Speaker 2: the orn beyond damn.

2726
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 1: Okay, but either way, either way, Eddie is shorter. He's

2727
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: six two, so he's not that tall by strong men's standards.

2728
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: So the first time I saw this clip, play it

2729
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 1: one more time play one more time. So the first

2730
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 1: time I saw this clip, I'm watching on my phone.

2731
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching on my phone. I thought that these two

2732
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: guys were little people. I thought they were little people.

2733
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Well they're they're much smaller.

2734
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 7: I know.

2735
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: I thought he was knocking out I'm not gonna say,

2736
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, they m word he was knocking out little people.

2737
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my fucking guys like whites. There's

2738
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: these guys have got to be like regularly. Just dude,

2739
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: hold that ship face down on that hoe.

2740
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: This is are they called freak fight? Did I see

2741
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 2: freak fight on that apron there?

2742
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: Or of kings? If King's right there? All right?

2743
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: You know what should be outlawed as a sport?

2744
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 1: Luke?

2745
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 2: Uh, when you combine football and porta pots together, that's

2746
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 2: got to be the worst offense you.

2747
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 1: Can do as a human. Down somebody pretty fucking bad,

2748
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 1: and that lady screaming and pure terror. So she did

2749
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 1: door down.

2750
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: If you knock somebody door down, so that means they

2751
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 2: can't get out?

2752
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh oh yeah, I don't know. It's a good question.

2753
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 2: A door down? Did you get covered in that ish?

2754
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 3: Right?

2755
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: Dude? You know I went to like the Renaissance Festival.

2756
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: One time it looked like they were having abortions down

2757
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 1: in there. Okay, I'm out of this conversation.

2758
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what this one's called, but I wrote

2759
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: down ass train it's coming a ready cook water back up.

2760
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 8: Ah.

2761
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 2: I guess you never know what you're gonna see.

2762
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 1: On what that feel like? Ah, people pay us to

2763
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 1: do this.

2764
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 2: You want to ask me any questions about somewhere in China?

2765
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I think that's gwang Zu. I could

2766
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: be wrong about That'd be wrong about that.

2767
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: Hey, UFC louisvill had so many clips. We have a

2768
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: bonus section here. Let's go this felt really good. We

2769
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: mentioned it Don Reyes getting his first win in five years.

2770
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Look at him, nicely done, Dude, that's such a great

2771
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 1: shot that he just puts them away. Fucking awesome.

2772
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 3: Man.

2773
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 1: You can see the ref he had lost here, especially

2774
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: if he'd been stretched that would have been Yeah, that

2775
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: would have been good finish and then the celebration.

2776
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: You could see the relief.

2777
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, good for him, man, good for him.

2778
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 2: Well did you hear about his post flight interview and

2779
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 2: what he you asked? Knock on the door, Luke, you

2780
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 2: ask you shall receive sometimes. Let's listen in here on

2781
01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: res We're in.

2782
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 8: The Cats Center. Man, I've been craving wanten.

2783
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: I believe we could help you.

2784
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 8: Break You.

2785
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 3: Have earned it. You know, how quickly do you think

2786
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 3: you would like to get back in there? And?

2787
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 2: Uh, look, that's a nice work from the UFC production

2788
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 2: staff right there.

2789
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: Breaking news.

2790
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: You're not into this fried chicken reveal?

2791
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: No, not that much. Gilbert Burns versus Sean Brady targeted

2792
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: for UFC main event on September seventh. Pretty bad.

2793
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: It's a pretty bad main event we used before. I

2794
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 2: made a nice health turn. Luke, we used to have

2795
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 2: hot dogs delivered to me on set like that on

2796
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 2: the regular.

2797
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna die like five years.

2798
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's keep it going here, Luke, welt your way,

2799
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 2: Carlos practice, Is that how you say it?

2800
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: I think it's process.

2801
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 2: H Check out this ko one here on on on

2802
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 2: this finishing strike at the end of.

2803
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: Ye Yeah, he got him occupied with his guard and

2804
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: held on to the other hand, so you kind of

2805
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: know where everything's going. He's fired up the middle.

2806
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, there ain't nothing like a celebratory sig after you

2807
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 2: make love to somebody. Luke, and there ain't nothing like

2808
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 2: getting a bonus on top of that. Did you see

2809
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 2: Carlos practice after the fight, got the bonus fifty K

2810
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: and a Newport light.

2811
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: Let's smoking like a tie fighter, man, that's fucking sick.

2812
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 2: So he was claiming when they interviewed Hi afterwards that

2813
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 2: he said he smokes before and after every fight because

2814
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 2: of the stress intention.

2815
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 1: I understand that a vape like that. Vapor vapes are foreclosers.

2816
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 2: When Luke Thomas once said that, okay, uh, let's keep

2817
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 2: it going here. Luke watched Stephen a strut into the

2818
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: TV Garden for Game one of the NBA Finals in Boston.

2819
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: He got criticized for this, but he said, look this

2820
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: way I walk in the room.

2821
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he walks like he's the most important guy in

2822
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 1: the room. That his pants also like he ate sushi

2823
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: from AutoZone.

2824
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Either that or the crown was his look.

2825
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 7: You know.

2826
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: Right there, you go.

2827
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep it going here. We like these UFC

2828
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: knockout memes because they're creative, even though they're.

2829
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,839
Speaker 1: I've told you before, I had the sushi at the CVS.

2830
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: Are the Walgreens underneath on the avenue of America's underneath

2831
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: Fox News was the CVS Underground, and I had sushi

2832
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: at that CV, but I had diaryeas.

2833
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 2: You're still drinking monsters.

2834
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I've been watching you. You're gonna kill have coffee today?

2835
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like some days you let this filth into

2836
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 2: your body, didn't you learn?

2837
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: Like this is the fucking guy who couldn't eat more

2838
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: Glizzies than if it was clean. Now more Glizzies. You

2839
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: are fucking chestnut.

2840
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm clean.

2841
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 1: That activity would have killed me.

2842
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 2: All right, all right, okay, where are we at. Let's

2843
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 2: go to this latest UFC knockout meme.

2844
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Better make that motherfucking chicken.

2845
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it. That's nice right there there. All right,

2846
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 2: let's go to PFL Europe from Newcastle, England. Luke, check

2847
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 2: out Chanelle die.

2848
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: This is so nice. This is so nice. She goes

2849
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,480
Speaker 1: through the legs and she stabs to the body here

2850
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: and then she goes she goes low and then she'll

2851
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 1: go high in just a second, right, getting her opponent

2852
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: to think low bop, woa, what a fucking so nicely

2853
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: set up? That was great.

2854
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 2: Now hear this right to the lower ear. You see

2855
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 2: that was perfect, perfect placement. Right there, let's keep it going.

2856
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 2: Savannah Marshall the boxer. Is she the unified undisputed women's

2857
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: unified women's middleweight boxing champion whose only pro defeat is

2858
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 2: to CLARESSA Shields. This is her MMA debut.

2859
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 1: I thought she'd have a little bit more punching power,

2860
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 1: but maybe her opponent is tough as shit. I don't know.

2861
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 2: She got into a bit of a war here, Luke,

2862
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 2: she had to endure some stuff. This is late in

2863
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 2: round one. You see Clarissa Shields was cage side and

2864
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 2: is chairing on Savannah Martin.

2865
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: Listen. I saw someone say this on Twitter, so I'm

2866
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 1: stealing their point, but I forget who it was, so

2867
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: you have to forgive me. Just make Savannah Marshall versus

2868
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 1: Clarissa's Shields.

2869
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 2: Next in the smart cage in the M A M.

2870
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 2: The post festivities here between the two they both faced

2871
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 2: off in the ring.

2872
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: Let's pling Clarissa in.

2873
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean you must be first of all delighted for

2874
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 3: Savannah to light water performance. Yeah yeah, you looked at me. Yeah,

2875
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 3: we're getting on.

2876
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 1: In the cage off.

2877
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 2: All right, it looks like they're gonna do it. If

2878
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 2: your PFL you kind of gotta jump on this right now.

2879
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 2: See the weird thing is that we thought they were

2880
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 2: the only sort of viable opponent for each other in

2881
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 2: boxing to have a big fight, right, But now Shields,

2882
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 2: as you see.

2883
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: She's gonna Look, she's gonna move to heavyweight. I didn't

2884
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: even know there was titles in a who I read

2885
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 1: a stat that there is something like only twenty women

2886
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: worldwide who are registered.

2887
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 2: So she's gonna fight at light heavyweight for two light

2888
02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 2: heavyweight titles and a heavyweight title. It's a little bit weird. Yeah,

2889
02:00:58,520 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's a.

2890
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 1: Sort of awaf in fucking mma.

2891
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a fair point, right there,

2892
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 2: you're right about that. All right, let's go elsewhere in

2893
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 2: mma over the weekend. This is from FCC thirty eight,

2894
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 2: William Haycox delivering a banana split Subectyah.

2895
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: That is bucking brutal crotch. Just tear that guy's uh,

2896
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 1: that guy's what do you call that?

2897
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 2: That landing strip guy.

2898
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Was the guy who won hay Cock and he's like,

2899
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 1: hey cock, just.

2900
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 2: Just ripping that grundle strap and half there that that

2901
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 2: uh wow, that is painful. Okay, let's go to Japanese. Mma,

2902
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 2: did you see this face off? Watch the activity of

2903
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 2: the gentleman on the right.

2904
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of posturing, a lot of are they

2905
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna smooch fucking her fighting? It's all the same, Luke, Right,

2906
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Time to have sex. Yes,

2907
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna bang the guy that's us on the who's

2908
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 1: the fat guy in the back. He's awesome? No, but

2909
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: he won't stop, Luke. So so here's dude, what the

2910
02:01:57,440 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 1: fuck can't stop?

2911
02:01:59,600 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 3: Won't?

2912
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Is this an adult film?

2913
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 8: What is this?

2914
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot of foreplay. True.

2915
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, let's go to the underground. This is an

2916
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:07,879
Speaker 2: underground fight club.

2917
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes it is.

2918
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 2: Watch this face oh man, this is this was a

2919
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 2: face off for some underground.

2920
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: Hold that ship, bitch, this is the fucking jabb Alwaukee's fighting.

2921
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:22,919
Speaker 1: I think they're just COVID consciously.

2922
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 2: Look, Hey, let's go to good news. Let's go to Davy, Florida,

2923
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 2: where former UFC title challenger and WSOF slash PFL champion

2924
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 2: Marlon ma Reisch has officially become a police offer sir

2925
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 2: in Davy, Florida. Hey, Marlon, if you see mikey out

2926
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: there with an expensive bong in his hands. Lock him up?

2927
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: All right, you should get to lock him up, Champ.

2928
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 2: What do you think about old Marlon making the career switch.

2929
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: Air MMA fighter to cop. Pipeline is a weird one

2930
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,240
Speaker 1: for me because I know a lot of guys like

2931
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: people realize this. When you got the military, like you

2932
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:55,640
Speaker 1: did any kind of combat arms, you have no transferable

2933
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: skills to the world, so they all become cops and

2934
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 1: complicated feelings I have about that.

2935
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,720
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, looke, this is our urinal cake

2936
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 2: moment of the week. Watch this guy's fancy footwork.

2937
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh you know this is some finance bro asshole.

2938
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 2: Wow, hate shit, dick face, New segment Alert joke of

2939
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 2: the week time.

2940
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 3: Okay, did you know everything is made in China except

2941
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 3: for babies.

2942
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 8: They're made in China.

2943
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: That kid should have been aborted.

2944
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 2: Too far, That is too far. I followed him, thinking

2945
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna get good humor, but it was very

2946
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: over the top. You know, sometimes I like a good

2947
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 2: nine to eleven joke. Got it got too far, It

2948
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:40,320
Speaker 2: got too far from me.

2949
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 1: Why don't you, why don't you tell the people what

2950
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: jokes you've been sending me?

2951
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't have to.

2952
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't have to.

2953
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 2: You can't help me, all right, this week even in

2954
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 2: boxing gave us a variety of stuff. How about Callum

2955
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: Walsh improving to eleven and oh here with this ko

2956
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 2: on UFC fight.

2957
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Is he fighting a gas station attendant? Who's he fighting of?

2958
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 2: But he's been stepping it up slowly. Baby shark Tabatha

2959
02:03:58,160 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 2: Ricci probably very excited.

2960
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 1: From what I've seen, he looks great, but I just

2961
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen him against anybody good.

2962
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to the top rank comane. You know Brooklyn

2963
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 2: based prospect twenty seven year old Bruce Shoeshoesharing Dan, who

2964
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,800
Speaker 2: is always in this segment because he makes ferocious knockouts.

2965
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 2: He improved a twelve and zero in his young rising

2966
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 2: career at one hundred and twenty six pounds. But it

2967
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 2: wasn't so much to finish that people were talking about.

2968
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 1: Part I saw.

2969
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next clip. Nioa in New a

2970
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 2: the fucking month was in New York for the boxing

2971
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 2: rids his head right there for the Boxing Writer's dinner

2972
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 2: and Shoeshoe bowed at him and called him out and

2973
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 2: got the way respect. So think about this, Nioa in

2974
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 2: Away is the undisputed champion at one. Twenty two is

2975
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 2: fourth division. We are sort of thrown out there some

2976
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:41,440
Speaker 2: ideas like will they move up even higher?

2977
02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: What about twelve?

2978
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 2: And oh Bruce shoeshoe car. It seems early to get

2979
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 2: on that guy's radar. But you want the smoke, you

2980
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 2: want to smoke.

2981
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you don't. He's not ready for in a way,

2982
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: we should just shut the fuck up.

2983
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the let's go to who's not

2984
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 2: ready for Prime ten anymore. Unfortunately that's Adrian the problem.

2985
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 3: Bro.

2986
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh fucking oh boy.

2987
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 2: This is in South Florida. Dot King promoted card. This

2988
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 2: is round two of their pay per view main event.

2989
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 2: Blair Cobs dropping him, Blair Cobs returning from a two

2990
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: year layoff to essentially just dominate Browner up and down

2991
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 2: over the distance. Uh it's Broner lost a tooth on

2992
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 2: that knockdown.

2993
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 1: Dude, it's over.

2994
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean he could he could have if he had

2995
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 2: won here, he could have been fighting Connor Ben Devin Haney.

2996
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 2: There was some talking about Ryan Garcia. It was a

2997
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 2: wipeout due it was bad, dude, Yeah, it was really bad,

2998
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, it's time for your prank of the week.

2999
02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Walmart. Some help down over here, just

3000
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 2: over here on this.

3001
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:50,760
Speaker 1: We've all been here. Excuse my my friend thought you

3002
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: were beautiful.

3003
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 8: He just wanted to get your numbers.

3004
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, is that too?

3005
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 2: Look because I left already.

3006
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: One on this one. Okay, I mean harassing just Walmart employees.

3007
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't think it's great, you know.

3008
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the carnival. Have you ever

3009
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 2: seen a shot this good?

3010
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 6: Wow?

3011
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, impossible that shot is and to walk off

3012
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 2: on top of it, feel.

3013
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 1: Like she's like George corpse grinder from.

3014
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 2: Just walking off Abaci style Gilbert Arenas, just like yep,

3015
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 2: it's in.

3016
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: She had she had like the fifty cent pitch, but

3017
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: it just ended up somehow being a strike.

3018
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 2: How bad that actual shot is though, it's the left

3019
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 2: of the rim and it just somehow ricochet.

3020
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: Wow?

3021
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 2: All right, big week for Nate Diaz and the two

3022
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:42,320
Speaker 2: O nine. First, let's go to the Zach Bryan concert.

3023
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 2: During the encore in LA. Who would have thought Nate

3024
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 2: Diaz would come out? Never pegged him a country rock fan.

3025
02:06:56,320 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know who what's his big song? I don't

3026
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 1: know any of his music.

3027
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 2: Okay, were you surprised to see Nads there? I mean

3028
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 2: I'd rather see my Yeah, I guess I think Has

3029
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: will be down for a Norwegian rowing rock like you're

3030
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 2: into Pyro.

3031
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 1: No, I hope not, all right, I'd lose all respect

3032
02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: for him.

3033
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, first Nate lifted up with Zach Bryant, and

3034
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 2: then he told off Brian Campbell again, Luke at the

3035
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 2: press car, what do you care.

3036
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: About, Nate?

3037
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 9: Not this fucking press conference, Bro.

3038
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm sick of sitting here. I'm sick of looking at

3039
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 3: it all these motherfuckers. I'm sick of looking at you too.

3040
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 9: Sh I'm done with this whole press conference ship. I'm

3041
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 9: glad we're here to put all these great fights that

3042
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 9: are happening.

3043
02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 1: That's cool as fuck. But you know what, besides that,

3044
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 1: I think my work here is done.

3045
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 9: I'm done doing all this ship. No more press conference

3046
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 9: until my next fight. Fuck this ugly motherfucker.

3047
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 3: Man. I disrespect you, but I'm sick of seeing you too.

3048
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm glad to.

3049
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 9: See everybody in peace. Out Hey, shout out to Danny

3050
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 9: Jacobs and my boy chrisy Vailla love kick Ass. I'll

3051
02:07:59,120 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 9: see y'all next time.

3052
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 2: So, Luke, we thought that was going to end there,

3053
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 2: which is the second straight time. It turns the second

3054
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 2: straight time Natiez walked off. By the way, they have

3055
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 2: a new date July sixth on pay per view, and

3056
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 2: I hope so it could be could be. Let's find

3057
02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 2: out it got The promoters got what I think they

3058
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 2: wanted with a viral moment afterwards. So Luke watched the

3059
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 2: guy in the dreadlocks. That's kill shot.

3060
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:24,880
Speaker 1: Would you fucking punch Jorge mass So that's kill shot.

3061
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 2: He's a bare knuckle fighter. And that's Jory Cappaitillo, the

3062
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:32,840
Speaker 2: boxing trainer of Horae Moswold, who was then but he

3063
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 2: was about that life.

3064
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 1: He was kind of ruled the hero, ask the question

3065
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: is he okay?

3066
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 7: He is?

3067
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 2: He had a little knot on his head, but kill

3068
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 2: shot with the dreads was.

3069
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 1: Cut and was bleeding. His name is Steve. We call

3070
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: him Steve.

3071
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 2: Oh sorry but here yes, actually, so Luke, it got

3072
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 2: wild quick. A couple of rows of seats got knocked

3073
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,200
Speaker 2: over and I took I took shelter. People were like

3074
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 2: with b C in the middle of that, you frick No,

3075
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 2: was Anthony Pettis. Yep, there's a Fernando Vargus holding Capaitillo. Dude,

3076
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 2: Capitio wanted all the smoke right there. Did you see that?

3077
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: Like, God bless him he will That shit gets dangerous, man,

3078
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 1: motherfuckers turn their ankles.

3079
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 2: That watched this. So first kill Shot slapped or no,

3080
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 2: mozved Al slapped Killshot's hand down. Then kill Shot threw

3081
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 2: a punch and look at cat just walking into traffic.

3082
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 2: But Luke, there's another camera angle where Mozvidal right about here.

3083
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:18,879
Speaker 2: We're gonna pick it up from here. Got his comeback

3084
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 2: for his coach, got his come up. And watch mozvel

3085
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 2: on the yellow T shirt right there, bro Rat dragging

3086
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 2: him by the dreads.

3087
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: Dude dragging him like a grandmother and a on a

3088
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: child that's acting up in the fucking park man.

3089
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 2: So I was back in the backstage area after this

3090
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 2: and kill Shot was bleeding and it was Mayhem, and

3091
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:39,760
Speaker 2: I heard this loud noise out in the in the

3092
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 2: alleyway of the arena. Now inside that sounded like another brawl,

3093
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 2: but they actually have footage of what happened. Nate Diaz

3094
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 2: got caught up in an interview here and he almost

3095
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 2: went at it with Mosvidal.

3096
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 1: Watched this.

3097
02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 2: The mindset that you have coming into this fi.

3098
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 3: Fuck are you looking at?

3099
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 1: Come down and get your fucking ass. It's whipped in.

3100
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, motherfuckers.

3101
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell them out. Your coach not knocked out?

3102
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 3: What's up?

3103
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Do you think you just sold another million pay per views?

3104
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get one.

3105
02:10:19,160 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 2: It's this is not when I walked out this morning.

3106
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this, that's the best publicity this fight has

3107
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 1: had since it was announced. Heay.

3108
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:37,919
Speaker 2: She had security guard right there that looked overwhelmed.

3109
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3110
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 2: He came up to me before the event and he

3111
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 2: was like, are we sure that none of these guys

3112
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:42,960
Speaker 2: have firearms?

3113
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:44,680
Speaker 1: I was like, a hope, A hope.

3114
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 2: Look, I wanted to ask you that though you this

3115
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 2: event needed something like this. I tried to stir it

3116
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 2: up on the press. There was a lot of trash

3117
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 2: talk in this actual press conference between the two. First

3118
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 2: time they really went at it. What do you think

3119
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 2: this does to this fight? For Joy six, they got

3120
02:10:59,560 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 2: the right date.

3121
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 1: I still think the fighter is dead on arrival because

3122
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 1: it's basically it feels like you've got two real fighters.

3123
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 1: There's no denying Nate and Jorge are real, real deal fighters,

3124
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 1: but it feels like influencer boxing.

3125
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't know who the are because of the spectacle

3126
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 2: that that that's kind of I mean, they have real

3127
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 2: fights on Danny Jacobs is in the co main events.

3128
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. Like, don't get me wrong, like

3129
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm not like rooting for it to do poorly. That's

3130
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 1: not what I mean. But you've got it. Just it's

3131
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 1: a weird it's a weird appeal. I think it's gonna tank. Yeah,

3132
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 1: I hope it's a brawl.

3133
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 2: It might be the ring, not in the crowd.

3134
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:33,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

3135
02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 2: One more clip for you, Luke, and hopefully one day

3136
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 2: maybe when we launched Friday Show for the first time,

3137
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 2: we need to give the face a gift if we

3138
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,400
Speaker 2: if we ever launched that Friday show that we're working on,

3139
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 2: keep trying, well, we'll celebrate with this.

3140
02:11:47,120 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm scared, all right, the Bobby, Here we go, baby

3141
02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 4: light it already.

3142
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:12,400
Speaker 5: Wow.

3143
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 1: You can't endure that.

3144
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:14,680
Speaker 2: You cannot endure that.

3145
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I just want to die. That

3146
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: is that is living the dream.

3147
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 2: That's about as good as it gets right there. That's

3148
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 2: the ship of the week, Luke. I mean it's it

3149
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,200
Speaker 2: was a decent batch were I think we're trending upward good,

3150
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 2: I hope in terms of the ship lately. Okay, maybe

3151
02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 2: we should bring back fans subs one week.

3152
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I still feel like you don't put enough people like

3153
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 1: biting it on skateboards.

3154
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 2: And I had I had a few of those in

3155
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 2: the chamber.

3156
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 1: You're right, and the North Korean censors take it that out.

3157
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 1: No no, no, no they didn't. They didn't.

3158
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, by the way for tale Fema Lopez in

3159
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 2: this episode.

3160
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get Randy Coutur in the future.

3161
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 2: I love that talking to that man. Luky's a legend

3162
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 2: when it happens, when it happens, yeah he is, which

3163
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:09,080
Speaker 2: was not today.

3164
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's Captain America. Dude.

3165
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 2: That still matters to me. That still means something.

3166
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to you. PFL is this Thursday, by the way, Yeah,

3167
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 1: that's in Connecticut.

3168
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 2: It so Moldowski versus.

3169
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: Lynton Vissell to Belatour alumni.

3170
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then there's like Carmuge versus Wa Nabi too.

3171
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 1: Which is yeah, another Bellatour fight.

3172
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:29,959
Speaker 2: But my headsas on that show.

3173
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 1: On the prelims.

3174
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tyler Santos on.

3175
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,520
Speaker 1: The prelims too. Kind of weird, don't get that.

3176
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 2: We don't they should do pull all their talent together

3177
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 2: and just do pay per views with all their talent together,

3178
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:42,000
Speaker 2: just to just to just be exclusively pay per view

3179
02:13:43,120 --> 02:13:43,879
Speaker 2: twenty dollars.

3180
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:48,360
Speaker 1: Just we should probably fuld them show. I'm just teasing,

3181
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:50,560
Speaker 1: can we tease? No one's lost to tease anymore.

3182
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 2: All right, So this week, Luke, one more time, one

3183
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 2: more time.

3184
02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 1: We're out of here. We'll be in Vegas essentially on

3185
02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday. We're gonna have a dynamic show, all kinds

3186
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 1: of stars coming through time.

3187
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:05,760
Speaker 2: What time should they expect.

3188
02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that yet, but we're definitely gonna

3189
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 1: have Dravante, Frank Martin, David Benafidez, the whole nine yards.

3190
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:14,040
Speaker 1: They're all gonna be there. It's gonna be great. Friday,

3191
02:14:14,080 --> 02:14:16,640
Speaker 1: another show life for the Blue Blue Wires Studios. I

3192
02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 1: believe Stack even Jackson.

3193
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:21,560
Speaker 2: Has to join us serious XM studios.

3194
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 1: That's right in the wind. And then Saturday of the Fights,

3195
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:27,800
Speaker 1: I'll be back for that. I'm going to leave Saturday morning.

3196
02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:29,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna stay stay for these fights. What are you

3197
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:30,880
Speaker 1: doing for Father's Day?

3198
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 2: That's also my wife's birthday? And if you remember the

3199
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 2: last time I flew to Vegas the Sunday was my

3200
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,600
Speaker 2: anniversary and I didn't make it home because of flight.

3201
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 2: I remember this year, so I hope I make it

3202
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,760
Speaker 2: home for for my wife's birthday. Slash Father's Day'll be

3203
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:45,120
Speaker 2: flying back, so that's it.

3204
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully you have a great time with your family and

3205
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: something I don't know. No, I know my dad's not

3206
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 1: going to be for their for Father's Day, but he

3207
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:52,240
Speaker 1: was up for like four days.

3208
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:54,520
Speaker 2: What would I have to legit?

3209
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,000
Speaker 1: Question? What would I have to do?

3210
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 2: Is it money to get him to join us on

3211
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 2: z for a special episode where I have a lot

3212
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:04,280
Speaker 2: of ideas.

3213
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:10,760
Speaker 1: You have a better chance of banging salamahayak than you

3214
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:16,600
Speaker 1: do interviewing my father. So you're telling me there's a chain.

3215
02:15:17,880 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's close it off here reminders you can

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Speaker 1: follow us on the social all that good stuff, YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash Morning Combat against stay tuned fur announcements

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Speaker 1: on when those shows on Thursday and Friday will be

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Speaker 1: r SD on one point, oh maybe maybe, just maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll be going to the concert.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a company at the sphere. If

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Speaker 2: your donks and you're weird and you're out there, okay,

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Speaker 2: leave me, leave me, keep your distance. But past that,

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Speaker 2: past a little bit of the Douci to the left side.

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Speaker 1: I'll take some of that. And then of course we

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Speaker 1: saw the merch there in the whole nine yards, we

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Speaker 1: see any final thoughts for I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have any more thoughts today. I

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Speaker 2: think that's the end of it. So in Brendan fitzgerald inspiration, right.

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Speaker 1: It, lets see it, let's see it.

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Speaker 2: Put the camera on my package.

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Speaker 1: I like how you did it wrong the first time,

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Speaker 1: you fucking moron. Alright, until next time, may all of

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Speaker 1: your gains be loyal.