1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple, Joe 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: with LaVar arrings and rating win and Jonas Knox on 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: It is the Herd Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Knox in for Colin. You can listen to this show 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: as always on the iHeartRadio app and you can find 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country as 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: we take you all the way up until noon Eastern 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: time or excuse me, at three o'clock Eastern time noon 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Pacific here on FSR. So we open up the show 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: talking about the feel good moment in Los Angeles with 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand and then the reality 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: of waking up and realizing you're also probably a Laker fan, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 2: which sucks, but again, you know, is what it is. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: That being said, we now turn over to somebody else 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: in the world of football who knows a thing or 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: two about dysfunction. That would be none other than Nebraska 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: head coach Matt Ruhle, your former teammate at at Penn State. 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Lebar you guys are amen, Yeah, you guys are real 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: nice to him. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: In practice. I'm sure we had a good time with Matt. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: Matt was a special teams guy. He was a special 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: situations person. Yeah, it's super super intelligent football player. Again, 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: I credit him with a lot of things that I 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: learned as a freshman. How you know, I knew how 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: to study film to a certain degree. I knew how 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: to take notes to a certain degree. In high school, 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: I had a pretty good, good program I had came from. 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: But when I got to college, I realized very quickly 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: how much of the educational part of football was involved 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: in terms of the studying, being able to know what 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: to look for, you know, being able to break down 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: what it is that the offense is doing and how 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: you need to apply that to you and your information 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: and your notes. Matt, Matt Ruhle did an excellent job 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: of sitting with me and us learning that. You know, 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: my freshman year there was his last year there, but 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: it turns out it translated into him being a really, 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: really fine football coach as well through through the years. 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: So he was talking with Greg McElroy on the Always 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: College Football podcast and he says that the experience in 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: the NFL probably makes him more ready for what the 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: new experience of college football is like. 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: I think the biggest certain thing you learn when you're 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 4: in the NFL is really evaluation, you know, like the 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: four collegeable So yeah, I think he's the player's offer 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: was taken. 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: You get the NFL. 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: It's all they're all good players, you know, it's just 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: a what's the financial value were put on this person 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: and put on this position? And you're in the NFL 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: a good free agency and the NBC teams walking away 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: from the lead players because of their contract situation. 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: So that was Matt Rule talking about the contractual similarities 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden between the NFL and college football, 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: and it is it does I do wonder if him 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: having that time there in the league makes him more 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: ready for it from that standpoint to where it's now 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: not just your typical well do you want to go recruiting? 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Now the money aspect being brought into it maybe makes 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: those conversations and how he evaluates players and what they 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: can and can't do, Maybe it makes that a little 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: bit more I guess a little bit more accustomed to him, 64 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: just based on that time he had in Carolina in 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: the NFL. 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I would assume that that would be the 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 3: reason why Bill Belichick went to North Carolina. Is that 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: we are stepping into a brave new world of what 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: the NFL represents. I mean, excuse me, what college football represents. 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: And you do have to figure out what the value 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: is on the position, you know, on the skill level, 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: on the influence. There are a lot of elements that 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: are now in play. I would say it's it's probably 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: a little bit more complex and a little bit more 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: complicated than just looking at it from the scope of 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: what happens in the NFL. Other than you having to 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: figure out how much to pay and evaluating based off 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: of what the pay would be versus evaluating if I 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: want to give this guy a scholarship, if we want 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: him to play on the field as a starter in 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: one of the offensive or defensive groups versus special teams. 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: It's just very different. I think the reason why it 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: would be more complex, Jonas is from the standpoint of 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: the transfer portal is what really to me makes it 85 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: very interesting. We just had the conversation too long ago, 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: not too long ago, about the suing. Now we have 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: one university sue another university based upon taking what is 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: in Miami took a player from Wisconsin. Wisconsin, Okay, they 89 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: felt like the player owed them whatever it is he 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: owed them based off of the contract that he signed. 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: So until elements like that get cleared up, where the 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: legalities of what's taking place at the college level and 93 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: how that works and who you're you know, I guess 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: basically who your rights belong to. Now, yes, you do 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: have an advantage over most likely college coaches because they 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: don't understand most likely you know, salary caps and free 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: agency and how that all works. But there's still a 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 3: learning curve that's there because of the lack of structure 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: and the lack of established rules on what the engagements are. 100 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: What's a do, what's a don't? You know, what's breaking 101 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: the rule, what isn't. There is a lot of gray 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: area that still exists at the college level, and I 103 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: think that it makes it very difficult for coaches and 104 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 3: administrators like athletic directors. You know, you're talking about twenty 105 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: million dollars I believe that they get yearly. But that's 106 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: for all sports. It's not just for one sport. So 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: now you got to figure out a salary cap, but 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: you got to figure out what that salary cap represents 109 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: for all of your sports. I think Pence has like 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: something like eight hundred plus student athletes in their school. 111 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: So there's a lot that has to be figured out. 112 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: But now you start to break it down by sport, 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: and obviously you're hiring gms, you're hiring head of staffs 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: that are now you're now structuring the football programs more 115 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: like proteins. And I would say that's probably where Matt 116 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: Rule is probably talking about, outside of just evaluation, having 117 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: maybe somewhat of an advantage in terms of how he 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: runs its team. 119 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: And I would also say, based on his time in 120 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: the NFL with Carolina, at least he's got a pretty 121 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: good example of how not to do things because that 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: place was a complete clown show. And what he went 123 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: through at Carolina or where he David Tepper brings him in, 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: there was some interest from the Giants. Matt Ruhle gets 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: a seven year deal from the Panthers. Then all of 126 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: a sudden, all the conversations, the whispers start to start 127 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: up that David Tepper is getting involved, he's meddling into 128 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: things he's want to And Matt Rule even said before 129 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: the season before he was fired, Listen, I signed a 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: seven year deal. I was told by David Tepp basically 131 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: put David Tepper on blasts like, hey, I was told 132 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: by the owner that I'm going to be given a 133 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: significant amount of time to get this thing sorted out. 134 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm working with that understanding going into all this, and then, 135 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: you know, however long it was later than he was gone. 136 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if Matt Ruhle goes back to college with 137 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: a better understanding of the salary cap, the structure, but 138 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: also a better understanding of whatever I do. I don't 139 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: want it to turn into what I came from in 140 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: the NFL, like he's got he's got to be. I 141 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: would imagine he draws from that experience of exhibit A, 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: how things could go sideways if you let it get 143 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: out of control above you. 144 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know what's interesting point to that is is 145 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: that when it's the pros, people have no problem doing 146 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: coverage and scrutinizing the dysfunction of ownership or of the 147 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: front office. It almost seems as though that's what's going 148 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: to eventually take shape and take hold at the college level. 149 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: Probably you've never really heard like all the dysfunction of 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: the president of the university, ad of the university, or 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: all those different things. So you'd have to assume, and 152 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: this brave new world of nil and how things are 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: being handled at the college level, that if you're dealing 154 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: with a dysfunctional organization university front office, ads, administrators, whatever 155 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: it may be, if you're dealing with that type of dysfunction, 156 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: I wonder will that become prevalent and will that create 157 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: more pressure on the universities and how they're not only 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: hiring their athletic directors, but ultimately how they're hiring the 159 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: presidents and the people that administratively are running the school. 160 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: It's also it's almost like now that money's involved, uh, oh, 161 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: open season on everybody. Oh like that now now that 162 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: we know that people are getting paid, players admitted, Now 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: that we know all of that, everybody's going to be 164 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: held to the same standard that you've seen from a 165 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: professional level. 166 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: You could play that this is an academic institution game. 167 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: All you want, you're gonna find your academic institution as 168 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: out on the street looking for a job. You got 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: to figure it out because that is that has been 170 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: the cash cow for these universities for many, many moons. 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: And if you mess that up now because you don't 172 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's always been really easy to minimize. Even 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: like when I play for Joe Paterno, Joe minimized athletics. 174 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: He minimized athletes because it was more about being a student. 175 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: It was more about education. It's like, who cares. We 176 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: play the game, we win the game, we lose the game. 177 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: But they got class on Monday. 178 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: They got to turn in their their their papers. 179 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 3: They gotta get good grades. Like it was always about academics. 180 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: You use. 181 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: Made a mistake. Okay, hey, hey, I'll. 182 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Put you on the bus that I brought your heir on. 183 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: Shout It matter anyway. But but here's my point. The 184 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: point is is that you cannot hide behind the moniker 185 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: of this is a place in an institution of higher 186 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: learning and education. You can't have behind it. You certainly 187 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: have to have it. The prestige of going to a 188 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: fine college and the institution of learning higher learning is 189 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: very attractive. But make no mistake about it, you will 190 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: not be any in any position as a head of school, 191 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: president of the school board of trustees, whatever it is. 192 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: You are not in a place where you can minimize 193 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: athletics and try to suppress what athletics represents to what 194 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: the the earning capacity of what it represents to the 195 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: university and in some cases to the state. You can't 196 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: minimize it now because it is now being turned into 197 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: a very very pro like approach, and now people are 198 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: going to be in a very very quick rush, a 199 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: quick movement to try to figure out what the solutions are, 200 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: what are what are even the positions the appointment of 201 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: new jobs that have to be created in order to 202 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: be able to handle this. You're going to have to 203 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: have capologists. You're gonna have to have gms, You're gonna 204 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: have to You're gonna have to have scouts, like and 205 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: they already have scouts. 206 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: Michael Lombardi's Michael Lombardi's, Belichick's GM College. 207 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: There's a lot, There's a lot. There is a lot here, 208 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: and hearing what Matt Ruhle has to say, it's just 209 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: the tip of the iceberg in terms of all of 210 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: the conversations that are going to continue to come up 211 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: and become like, what what are the main topics of 212 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: conversations as it applies to this new world of what 213 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: sports represent at the college level. 214 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: Do you mean to tell me as we sit here 215 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: right now on the third of July twenty twenty five, 216 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: that the term student athlete no longer means the same thing. 217 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. It doesn't because you don't have to 218 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: everybody that understands going to college and playing the game 219 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: that was a that was a politically correct way of 220 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: expressing what you were as a scholarship player. You had 221 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: to say it, I am a student athlete. And while 222 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: it is still not a pay for play model in college, 223 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: it is still not pay for play. The one term 224 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: that they have to get used to, and it's going 225 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: to have to be embraced, and it's going to lead 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: to a whole lot of different things, organizing unions and 227 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: having union reps and maybe it leads to collective bargaining 228 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: agreements and all kinds of stuff like that. Is employee 229 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: is employee, And that's what's going to be interesting. How 230 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: quickly does the college level get to the place where 231 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: it is comfortable saying that these are employees, Meaning if 232 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: they are employees, you're talking about retirement, you're talking about insurance, 233 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: you're taking all the things that come along with being 234 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: an employee. They are going to have to figure for 235 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: and they're going to have to have the resources and 236 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: the funds to put towards those things. Once it becomes 237 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: a real thing that college athletes are not student athletes 238 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: just student athletes. They are students, They are athletes, and 239 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: they are employees. Once you get those three put together 240 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: and the understanding of. 241 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 6: That is really realized, realized to speak for a living, 242 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: Once the realization of that comes to fruition, there is. 243 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: Going to be so many people. Lawyers, you know, financial planners, 244 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: you name it. There's going to be so there's even 245 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: private private family offices, investors, major investors. They are now 246 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: looking at the college space the same way that they 247 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: are looking at the pro space. There are people that 248 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: are actually trying to purchase the rights of the school. 249 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: It's outside of the leer fields and the play flies 250 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. There are actually private equity groups 251 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: that are trying to purchase schools. In other words, what 252 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: it is that the sports represents. They're trying to purchase 253 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: the rights to that so that they can use that 254 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: as a place to place their money. This is a 255 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: very deep rabbit hole that has been created, and I 256 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: don't see the bottom of it. I don't see the 257 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: bottom of it just yet. It's still just black. It's 258 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: just darkness. You don't see the bottom, like, oh, there's 259 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: the floor of this nil there's the floor of this 260 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: new new college college world. You don't see it yet. 261 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: There's still so much more to be defined. I mean, 262 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: what does that look like for liability? You know what 263 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: type of lawsuits are going to come from? You know 264 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: the athletes that are playing, like, what type of rights 265 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: do they have? How does this impact Title nine? Like 266 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: with women's involvement and them having fair opportunity to be 267 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: treated equally? How do all of these things happen? Do 268 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: you stay with the NCAAA. How strong does the NCAAA stay. 269 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: There are a lot of different conversations, a lot of 270 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: different lanes of different roads where all of these things 271 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: have to be discussed and have to be flushed out 272 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: and established, and it isn't going to be anytime soon, 273 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: and these athletes are tasked with trying to navigate it 274 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: as athletes to a new space, and so are the coaches, 275 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: and so are the administrators of these schools. 276 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 277 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 278 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 279 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 280 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 281 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 7: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 282 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: our weekly auditory journey. 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There's a tradition on this show, 293 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: and that tradition is none other than Petros papadaikis the 294 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you 295 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports 296 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: Fox College Football Analyst and find him on X at 297 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: the Old p Petros Good morning, Good morning, Hello Skirt, 298 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: what Pete? 299 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 5: What's going on? 300 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 301 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: Is this the other Jello? Oh that's one. 302 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: There's only one Jello. 303 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: There's only one Jello. Hey, but I'll tell you what 304 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: there isn't just one of I was today years old 305 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: when I realized, who, Jeff Bezo's just just married. 306 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: Oh right man? 307 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you give me because you you're a LA guy, 308 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: can you give me some color on this? Bro? 309 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: Sure? 310 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: Because it is sports related? Oh yeah, marriage is sports relate. 311 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Make sure to add some color on it. 312 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 8: There to be a comed there used to be a 313 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 8: comedian in uh in Gotham City who had a wife 314 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 8: and I think a pregnant wife or something, and was 315 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 8: struggling and went into a life of crime and fell 316 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 8: into a vat of chemicals. And that comedian came out 317 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 8: with green hair and and a weird white face. And 318 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 8: now they're known as the Joker. The Joker, and she 319 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 8: married Jeff Bezos. 320 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: No, I'm kidding. 321 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: Uh, thank you Jonas. 322 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 9: Uh she uh she worked Miss and discriminate though well, 323 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 9: Miss sin Chez worked at Channel eleven, which is which 324 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 9: one is that kt TV out here, which is the 325 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 9: Fox affiliate. 326 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: So uh, she. 327 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 8: Worked at the Fox affiliate which is not where all 328 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 8: the Fox people like me work, uh, which is down 329 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 8: the street, which is the Fox lot, the movie lot 330 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 8: which they actually sold along a few years ago to 331 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 8: ESPN and a bunch of other people. They don't own 332 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 8: it anymore, but they rent their sports building on the 333 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 8: Fox lot, So if that makes any sense, the twentieth 334 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 8: century Fox Lot is really no longer owned by Fox. 335 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 8: But that's where we all work. KTTV is on Bundy, 336 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 8: which everybody knows from the OJ trial, a little ways 337 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 8: over in Brentwood, West LA. And that's where Fox eleven is. 338 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 8: She Sanchez worked there as a news lady, and I 339 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 8: believe that I don't know, I just like to or Lopez. 340 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 8: She she she worked there at KTTV, and she was married, 341 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 8: even though it's not listed. She was married to a 342 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 8: famous old KTTV's foot soldier, reporter and really good play 343 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 8: by play guy who was a USC played by play 344 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 8: guy for SC basketball and he was an Angels play 345 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 8: by play guy. And he passed away, uh kind of suddenly, 346 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 8: but he was. She was married to Rory Marcus for 347 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 8: a little while. 348 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: Was she really uh huh? 349 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 8: And then she uh yeah, Bryan Thompson, Yeah, she was 350 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 8: married to him. It was like the Kim, that black 351 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 8: dude that Kim Kardashian was married to. First that everybody, yeah, yeah, 352 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 8: everybody acts like ray J was the first dude to 353 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 8: date her. But uh so after that, she dated Anthony Miller, 354 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 8: the wide receiver from the Chargers and Denver, Yes, and 355 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 8: then and then she dated Tony Gonzalez and had a 356 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 8: baby with him, and then she dated like Derek Fisher. Yeah, 357 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 8: and I mean she'd been around uh and uh and 358 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 8: then Bezos snatched her up. But she doesn't look the 359 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 8: same that she as she used to, and neither does he. 360 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 8: You know, he looks like this way different. He looks 361 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 8: like a sperm that lifted weights. So is it like 362 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 8: a swall little sperm. 363 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that she she's got power 364 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: to all fields? Basically looking at her resume here, well, I. 365 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 8: Would, I mean to me, it still seems like she's 366 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 8: she's one tool. 367 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: Player because Rory Marcus looks different than Anthony. 368 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, well Rory would be Yeah, that was you know, 369 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 8: the black guy that Kardashian. But uh, let's see if 370 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 8: I got any wrong. She got Tony Gonzalez, that was 371 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 8: her two thousand, had Anthony Miller, Then she was with 372 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 8: Derek Fisher. 373 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, Henry Simmons, I feel like Simmons, whoever 374 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: they been looking super good looking. Due played like a 375 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: police officer on on television. 376 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: And well then she married another random white Patrick White. 377 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: Sound then she yeah, she went back to the other side, 378 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: and then she came back. You know, well she stays, yeah, 379 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: you're right. She she she hits Hoppo, So yeah, she's 380 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: not Yeah, she's not. 381 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: Taco Yeah, real slock hit. 382 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 3: And she don't go and she don't stay a certain 383 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: like skin color either, Like she goes light skinned, dark 384 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: skinning brown. 385 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: You know what, bring it, everybody up top. 386 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: I mean, she's United Nations. This is what the American dream, 387 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. 388 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: I'm happy for her. Well, she's got a lot of. 389 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 8: Friends who are like people at Fox, like the kind 390 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: of people the kind of person that sued Cowhard or. 391 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: Who was who did that Lady Sue and Sharp. 392 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, a lot of those type of people were 393 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 8: like people that work at Fox wardrobe people stuff like that. 394 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 8: And then you know Carrissa is very close with them, 395 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 8: who does a lot of work with Amazon. So it 396 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 8: was there was there was some people that I knew 397 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 8: there there were. If I was there, there would have 398 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 8: been people to say it with. 399 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question of follow up to this. 400 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: What is it? What is it with La people sharing 401 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: one another? Like I've never like maybe I haven't liked Hell. 402 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm from here. Don't nobody cheer for me? 403 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: They don't share you. They don't cheer me, show me 404 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 5: or share me or cheer me. 405 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, share not chair not cheer leading. 406 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 5: Sharing. 407 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: Sharing is caring, Like a lot of people share each 408 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 3: other's people out here, Like, I get it. It's a 409 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: weird culture of that in La I have. 410 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I used to know Maoi pretty well, just from 411 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 8: a home there that my in laws owned, so we 412 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 8: would stay, you know, out of the hotel areas and stuff, 413 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 8: and you end up talking to people and you get 414 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 8: to know people that live there, and they don't they 415 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 8: talk about women there, that there's just not that many 416 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 8: women and that there's. 417 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: Not really that many people on the island. 418 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 8: And I always think of a Hawaiian island, especially Maui, 419 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 8: as like a movie set. And sadly it was very 420 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 8: very prevalent when they had the disastrous fire there in Lahina. 421 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 8: But I always think of those places as kind of 422 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 8: a movie set, like it's beautiful, there's all these buildings 423 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 8: that it seems like there's all this stuff, these stores, 424 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 8: these restaurants, but there really are no resources, and if 425 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 8: you push on it, it like falls over. 426 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: It's it's false, it's not real. 427 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 8: And you learn that when something bad happens, like an 428 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 8: individual disaster where somebody gets hurt catastrophically, and if you 429 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 8: can't survive a metavac to Honolulu, you're gonna die. This 430 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 8: is a long way to answer your question, but I 431 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 8: think it's prevalence. 432 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: It's all right what people feel the relevance of this. 433 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 8: What people say in Maui is you don't really get 434 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 8: your a relationship with a girl. 435 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 5: You get your. 436 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 8: Turn because you know, there's really not that many people there. 437 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: You know. It's kind of like you know that old joke, 438 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 5: it's your night in the barrel. 439 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: And so it's about eligible date. 440 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 8: I don't I think lascause there are a ton of 441 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 8: people in La Yeah, there are people here, there are, 442 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 8: but there's only a certain amount of people that think 443 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 8: that they're as cool as these idiot marginal TV stars 444 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 8: that you will share. 445 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: And God forbid, and God forbid one of those women 446 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: who gets meta backed, you know, then oh. 447 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're never gonna survive the Medovac to Honolulu. But 448 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: they're just that it's a little tiny pond and they 449 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 8: just jumped from lily Pad to lily Pad without really 450 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 8: going anywhere. 451 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: Who's in the pond? Is it like they know where 452 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: to go? Like, like, how do you like? This is 453 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: an impressive. 454 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 8: There's a sign outside of the pond and it says 455 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 8: c AA. 456 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: I mean that's seriously, you know it's it's. 457 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: They meet through agencies. 458 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's agency bs. 459 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 8: It's people who have you been to these parties that 460 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 8: you guys go to the Sleeper Bowl? 461 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you guys go to the super Bowl. 462 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I don't go to the parties. 463 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 8: But you see all the TV people walking around the 464 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 8: space and they all act like they are seriously like 465 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 8: at the at the GA seven conference, like they are 466 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 8: signing global law into I mean, they really do act 467 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 8: like they're doing something important. 468 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 3: And they only stay in their own space too, by 469 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: the way, like you'll see them moving around, but they 470 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: only acknowledge one another. 471 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it's like being at those parties whenever. And 472 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 8: this happens to be at the Fox Seminar every year, 473 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 8: and I've been going to the Fox Seminar probably longer 474 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 8: than anybody else that's worked there, because I've worked there 475 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 8: for so long, but I mean other than Howie Long 476 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 8: and Terry Bradshaw people like that. But everybody that you 477 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 8: talk to, it feels like, at least me, they're always 478 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 8: looking over your shoulder for somebody cooler to show up, 479 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 8: you know, And that's that's kind of like the vibe 480 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 8: of these people. But not everybody's happy with the bezosweating. 481 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 8: I mean, there was massive protests, I don't know if massive, 482 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 8: but noticeable, noticeable protest in Venice where people were unhappy. 483 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 8: They don't love their tourists there, but I don't really 484 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 8: know what they have if they don't have tourists, just 485 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 8: a bunch of stinking brackish water, and uh, it grows 486 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 8: and then I mean, can you imagine it's literally it's thousands, Yeah, 487 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 8: it's thousands and thousands of years of rotting city on 488 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 8: disgusting water. But anyway, the people, the people in Venice 489 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 8: weren't happy. Charlis Throne took a shot at them from 490 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 8: the Universal Lot at some party, and Katie Kurrk called 491 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 8: it tacky, and so did others like Bethany Frankel and 492 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 8: people that weren't invited. 493 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: Does she count? 494 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, does who does count? 495 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Franklo? 496 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just saying there's some pushbacks. 497 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: Skinnybadka now Petros, I am wondering, Kitty Girl, Margarita Arguer? 498 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: Will you be tonight is a big night for the 499 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: Why what did I miss? Clayton Kershaw will go three 500 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: thousand strikeout against the awful White Sox leader Dodger Stadium. 501 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: Will you be live on location for that event later on? 502 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 5: No? 503 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 8: No, we inquired about being there and then we're not 504 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 8: going to be there, but. 505 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: Usually we are there for events like this. 506 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 8: But either way, Yeah, the Kershaw thing is happening tonight. 507 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 8: He's had a long career. 508 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 5: Kershaw. Excuse me, hold on. 509 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: Bless you? Sorry, bless you? No worries? Do you take 510 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: do you take martial arts class? 511 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: You? 512 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: Yea? 513 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: Y yogi? Yogi? You're a dishonor k We were talking 514 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: about Kershaw. 515 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 8: Kershaw reminds me a little bit of Kobe in town, 516 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 8: you know, And I don't think people can really grasp 517 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 8: I mean, you could look at the numbers and all that, 518 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 8: and the playoffs were. 519 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: A whole different rigamarole. 520 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: But Kershaw has had a heck of a career and 521 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 8: he was so dominant when he was in his prime 522 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 8: as a pitcher. The Dodgers took a trip to Australia. 523 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 8: Remember when they played in Australia. We all remembered Korea 524 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 8: and Japan, but like seven, eight, nine years ago, they 525 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 8: played in Australia and to start out the season, and 526 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 8: the long flight and the flight home ruined Kershaw's back 527 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 8: to where he needed to have back surgery. And he's 528 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 8: never had elbow surgery. Imagine that. I mean, this guy's 529 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 8: been pitched for twenty years. Most guys by the time 530 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 8: they're twenty years old have to Tommy Johns now a 531 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 8: major league pitchers. This guy has never had one. But 532 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 8: he did end up having back surgery. But he reminds 533 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 8: me a little bit of Kobe in that he was 534 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 8: so dominant in his. 535 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: Time and. 536 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 8: Literally not very friendly with the LA media and just 537 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 8: you know, just not a cup cuddly warm guy. And 538 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 8: you got the the and I don't blame him, but 539 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 8: you know, he's from Texas and you get got the 540 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 8: idea that he was just didn't want to be here, 541 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 8: you know, like Los Angeles was not a great fit 542 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: for him. But of course it's been a dream career 543 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 8: and he's had the whole thing here and him and 544 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: his wife Allen have learned to adapt to the area 545 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 8: during the season and all that. But it does remind 546 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 8: me of Kobe because like the last three or four years, 547 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 8: as his career has just sort of unmercifully come to 548 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 8: an end, and he keeps going and he's not throwing 549 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 8: ninety five ninety six anymore. He's throwing eighty nine and 550 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 8: he's still striking people out and he's still got a 551 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 8: lot of savvy up there. He's the oldest looking thirty 552 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 8: seven year old or whatever in the history of the world. 553 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 8: I mean, he looks like Greg Oden or DeAndre Ayton there. 554 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 8: He's got the old man look, deep crevices in his face. 555 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean, the sweat marks on his hat. 556 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's wearing it and he and now he's like 557 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 8: all friendly and doing interviews and he's everybody's bff. And 558 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 8: it's like, to me, it's a little bit like Kobe. 559 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 8: It's like, remember how you act in the last sixteen years, 560 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 8: you know, and all of a sudden, now that you're 561 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 8: on your way out, it's like, hey, I love y'all. 562 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: It's like, no, you don't. 563 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 8: But anyway, he's had a hell of a career and 564 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 8: he's had a terrible, terrible time of it in the playoffs. Also, 565 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 8: there's been a lot of ups and downs, and he 566 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 8: is he is an eye and he would have gotten 567 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 8: it looked like he would have gotten into his three 568 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 8: thousand strikeout and uh wherever they were, Colorado, but they 569 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 8: pulled him and when he had three left with only uh, 570 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 8: not that many pitches, so they could set the stage 571 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 8: for what otherwise might not be a very well attended 572 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 8: game tonight in uh at Dodger Stadium against the White Sox. 573 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 8: So there'll be a coronation tonight unless he just goes 574 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 8: out there and gets his boob scooped out. 575 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: But that's probably I don't think that. I mean, the 576 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 5: White Sox aren't very good. Uh. 577 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the plane ride. Is that is that 578 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: the story that everyone's going with that the plane ride 579 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: from Australia hurt his back? Yes, that's a real How. 580 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 5: Are you saying that he was eaten by a dingo? 581 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, how do you like sitting on 582 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: a plane. It's not like they're taking. 583 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 5: The plane ride. I mean the guid and was never hurt. 584 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 5: He never had any issues. 585 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 8: And the long plane ride he slept weird and his 586 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 8: back got weird and then he probably pushed it on 587 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 8: the bad back and made it worse or something. 588 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 5: I don't know, like it's not my back. I got 589 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: enough problem. 590 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Were they taking the romancing the Stone plane? Like what 591 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: are we doing here? 592 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 5: Like that romancing the Stone? 593 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: It feels like they leave me alone, the travel in 594 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: luxury and he wouldn't have to worry about back pain. 595 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: I've never flown to Australia, so I don't know exactly. 596 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 8: You should book your favorite guy, David Vasse Dodger reporter, 597 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 8: because he is the guy behind the Kershaw's back was 598 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 8: ruined on the Australian plane. 599 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: Hey, Kershaw's the reason David Massey attacks me on the air. Okay, 600 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: because David Massay has got trauma from back then and 601 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: he takes it out on me. 602 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 5: So you know what, You're right. 603 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 8: He has a lot of trauma for being bullied by 604 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 8: baseball players over the years. 605 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Are we almost are 606 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: we wrapping up the the era of being nailed by 607 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: the King Petros is it? Is it winding down here 608 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: with Lebron or what's. 609 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: Romancing the Stone? 610 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: Romancing the Stone? 611 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: Was that a how did they slip that into the 612 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: culture and nobody really took a good look at it. 613 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 5: But romance in the Stone? 614 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: What is the stone that's being romance? 615 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 5: It's like a jewel that they were all at. 616 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: Oh, of course it is. And then there was a 617 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: who's the main character in that movie? 618 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 8: Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito. 619 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 3: Danny DeVito, no further than that first name. I already 620 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 3: know what Romancing the Stone is when that first guy 621 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: is in the movie. 622 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 5: That a reference to cocaine. 623 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: No, Michael Douglas, he's horned up. 624 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 8: I don't think there's any better like angry pissed off 625 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 8: cocaine a hole give it up main character than Michael Douglas. 626 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 8: Just one angry on cocaine all pro not liked, you know, 627 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 8: just in black. 628 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 5: Rain running around Japan getting pissed. 629 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: Off taking it. 630 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 6: Uh. 631 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 8: The sequel to Jewel of the Nile was or was 632 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 8: Romancing the Stone was Jewel of the remember that, And 633 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 8: the song was by Billy Ocean Romance in the Stone. 634 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 5: That never leave me alone taking it. 635 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: You get that look in this, You get that facial 636 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: expression that looking in I mean, look. 637 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 5: We all remember, we all remember. 638 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 8: The scene in Basic Instinct where he ripped off poor 639 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 8: Jeanie triple horns g string taking it. 640 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 5: But uh, anyway. 641 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: Lebron James, all right, okay, there we go back to 642 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: the point. 643 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 5: I think what happened. 644 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 8: Uh, And I'm not the only one to say this. 645 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 8: My radio partners the first one to mention it, and 646 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 8: it made sense to me. Was it just feels like 647 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 8: they offer the Lebron people tried to get ahead of 648 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 8: the new ownership and get a new deal and get 649 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 8: some more years on his deal, and they told him no. 650 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 8: So then Lebron had to release that really weird statement 651 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 8: through shams to uh to the what wasn't about the 652 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 8: Oh just yeah, the Lakers know that this is important 653 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 8: and we've got to keep an eye on the right. 654 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 5: It's an amazing thing. 655 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 8: Like basically, Lebron saying I have my contract is crippling 656 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 8: to any franchise. 657 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 5: Uh, and no one will take it. 658 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 8: So I'm going to use this contract to cripple you, 659 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 8: but I'm also going to hold you accountable for your 660 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 8: bad roster that exists because of my bad contract, So 661 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 8: it it could be winding down. But I do think 662 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 8: we're going to have another year of struggling with the King. 663 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 8: But I don't think that the uh. 664 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 5: I don't think that he is the Lakers priority anymore. 665 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 8: And I think that was very very obvious to everybody 666 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 8: when he was. 667 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 5: When Luka donct showed up. 668 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 8: So when that trade happened, I think it was pretty 669 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 8: obvious to everybody that the Lakers are are are a 670 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 8: Luca team and no longer a Lebron team. So everything 671 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 8: else that you hear out of the Lebron people are 672 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 8: like the death spasms of his relevance in the city, 673 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 8: which I hope is ending. 674 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: So is did It's just still moving. 675 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a death rattle. 676 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 8: But I don't think uh, I don't think they can 677 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 8: get rid of them, right, I mean without getting in 678 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 8: all the NBA loophole bs that everybody sits there. 679 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 3: And what does that mean for Brownie? 680 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 5: That's a great question, you know, what does it mean 681 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: for Brownie? You know? 682 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 8: And what does it mean? Oh, Eddie Grant sings Romance 683 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 8: in the Stone. I'm sorry, guys, all right, corrections and retractions. 684 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 8: Do you guys know who Eddie Grant is? Electric Avenue? 685 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: I do I know who that we're going a. 686 00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 8: Rock down to kind of a one hit wonder reggae 687 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 8: stared and then but it's funny any He opened a 688 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 8: studio somewhere in the Bahamas or somewhere in the Caribbean, 689 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 8: not Jamaica. He opened a studio, a recording studio where 690 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 8: a lot of really famous albums ended up being recorded. 691 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 8: Eddie Grant, he's the guy that sang the Romance in 692 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 8: the Stone song, which I don't ever believe made it 693 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 8: into the actual movie. It was only in the trailer. 694 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: Huh, Patris, you got any special plans from fourth of July? 695 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: It's Friday, so you're gonna get all banged up and 696 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: light off some piccolo petz with the neighbors or what? 697 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: No? 698 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 5: I mean? 699 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 8: I liked San Pedro is a is a where a 700 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 8: town I grew up in and around is is pretty 701 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 8: good for fireworks, where like everybody on the street has 702 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 8: their own mortars and stuff, and it's like Vietnam, you know, 703 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 8: like block by block it gets really and San Pedro's 704 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 8: that way, Wilmington's that way. Harbor cities that way La 705 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 8: Meta is that way, you know, all the way up 706 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 8: through the city and then all the way up through 707 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 8: the gateway cities between Orange County and La like Paramount 708 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 8: and Compton and Downy and Cerritos and Lamarada. I mean 709 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 8: they all, I mean, every single block has their own 710 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 8: iron dome. 711 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 5: In Israel, you know. 712 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 8: They just I mean it's it's fireworks are illegal and 713 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 8: everybody has file. It's you know, it's like Jamaica, guns 714 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 8: are illegal and everybody's got a gun. 715 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 5: So it is, yeah, a chopper, uh and uh. 716 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 8: And so it's it's fun in that regard because you 717 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 8: get to higher ground, so to speak, and you just 718 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 8: watch the city explode. But it's also like that when 719 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 8: the Dodgers win. Yeah, an electric avenue, no doubt about it. 720 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 8: And you know every year somebody loses a hand, like 721 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 8: the Dodger guy. 722 00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 5: Did you know? 723 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 3: So that got earlier? Give it the way. 724 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: Petro's always a good time here on this Wednesday morning. 725 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: Well there it is the coast of the Petros and 726 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: Money Show. You can hear it on Romance in the 727 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: stunt The Blowtorch A M five seventy l A Sports 728 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: Fox college football analysts and are good pal here at 729 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: the old pe on X. Petros Happy forward to you 730 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: and the family. Appreciate it. 731 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 5: Romance in the stunt. 732 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is ridiculously bad. Great song, I mean, 733 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 3: but it sounds like the type of music Kirk Douglas 734 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 3: will be getting. 735 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 5: Just coked up taking what he wants. 736 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Kirk Douglas, Kirk Douglas. 737 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 5: Kirk's the dad. 738 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 3: Which one is it? 739 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 8: Mark's the dad with the dimple from Spartacus. Yeah, Michael Douglas, 740 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 8: coked up rapist? 741 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 3: You should it? 742 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 8: Not me? 743 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 5: All right? 744 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 2: Petrusse will do Toget next week. 745 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 5: Alone. 746 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: That's how you stick the. 747 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: Landing, I mean, he stuck it. 748 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 749 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 750 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 751 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: Happy for the July It is the Dan Patrick Show 752 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas knocks in 753 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: for DP and the guys. Now you can hear LaVar 754 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: and I and Brady Quinn weekday mornings before The Dan 755 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Show on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 756 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, but with Brady 757 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: Quinn not here. LaVar Arrington and I do a show 758 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: called Black and Drack because LaVar's LeVar, and I'm really pale. 759 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: So you play it with hold give better explanation than that. Well, 760 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 3: your your vampire and I'm a black man. That's correct. 761 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: So there's my quota. So there's people that think I 762 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: say my escape color every day. So there's my color. 763 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: And I call Jonas Dracula, Dracula's kid, Dracula's brother cousin. 764 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 2: Because LeVar LeVar claims that he saw me walk in 765 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: public one time and he was hunting and I turned 766 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 2: my head around in one hundred and eighty degrees looking 767 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: for something to sink my teeth in. 768 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it. 769 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm just pale. 770 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: I've seen it, but I've seen it. It was the outfit. 771 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: You totally fit all of the stereotypes of a if 772 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: it was a stereotype of a vampire in real life, 773 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: you fit the building in that man. You scared me, 774 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: and that's the part, that's the part of the story 775 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 3: that you left out, Like I was sitting on my 776 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: balcony like far enough. Well, far enough away for you 777 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: not to be able to determine exactly my my location 778 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 3: on my balcony. 779 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: And then you know what was the most insulting piece 780 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 2: of it all is that I start walking back towards 781 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 2: the hotel and I've didn't turn around, and LaVar it 782 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 2: was walking backwards. LaVar started putting garlic inside a paintball 783 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: gun and firing it out. Oh bruh, the balcony at me. 784 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been wrong. 785 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: You startled me so when you turned and was looking 786 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 3: around for bodies, and then your eyes went up and 787 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: met my eyes. 788 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: I see it's crazy. I see LaVar later. He's got 789 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: a flask on him, Like, what do you got in there? 790 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: He's a holy water player. 791 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm not taking any chances with you. Hell, your weird ass. 792 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 3: Weird ass. By the way, it is why you'd be 793 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 3: so awake in the morning, man. I always tried to 794 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: figure out why you're so awake in the morning. Bro, 795 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 3: I have slept in the seventeen hundred. That's your time 796 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 3: to shine. It's still dark out. 797 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 5: Now. 798 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: It has been a already an eventful fourth of July 799 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: for somebody. Now, that's somebody we don't know. We just 800 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: know it's the somebody who's responsible for the pair of 801 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: panties that were laying in the courtyard. 802 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: I mean, why somebody got lucky there's a pair of 803 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 3: in front of the studio and this this day and age, 804 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 3: this climate. Let me say, maybe somebody was unlucky. I 805 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 3: don't know, somebody might have got caught up or somebody 806 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 3: they got caught up in the rapture of love. As 807 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 3: Anita Baker. 808 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: Would, I would just say, that feels like something you 809 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: would want on you at all times unless things went 810 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: a certain way and and all of a sudden you realize, yeah, 811 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 2: you know you don't need that. You know, maybe you 812 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: want to get rid of the evidence. But me, but 813 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: here's the thing. 814 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 3: If it went down like that and you left your 815 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 3: panties like right then and there in the courtyard of 816 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: this office building, don't like, I know, it's the fourth 817 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: of July, but we're here. There's some people that's all 818 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 3: the security goes shit. I mean, wouldn't somebody clean them up, 819 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: like when somebody just you know, scoop and score them 820 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: into the trash can or something. They just sitting right 821 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 3: there for everybody to see, just some yellow panties. And 822 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: by the way, not to nitpick here, but it is 823 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 3: fourth of July. You've got three colors to choose from today. 824 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: Yellow yellow wasn't on the menu. That's not on the menu, 825 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: So get it together next time. If you're going to 826 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: celebrate Fourth of July with a pair of panties in 827 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: the courtyard in front of the studio, red white or 828 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: blue that's it or green class hat. 829 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: We are in La Great Point. 830 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 831 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 5: That's what. 832 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: Uh, that's what we're working with here on this fourth 833 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: of July. 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So we've got conflicting reports here. 841 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: Mary Kaycabin of Cleveland dot com says that Kenny Pickett 842 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: will have the advantage in the Browns quarterback battle, writing 843 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: Thursday that Picket's superpower will be his mobility. That will 844 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 2: enable the Browns to be creative and unpredictable in Stefanski's offense. Specifically, 845 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 2: Kavit said that Stefanski will give Picket more of an 846 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: opportunity to run the keepers, run pass options, and other 847 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: plays that rely on his strengths. Now the athletic Zach 848 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: Jackson added that Flaco Joe Flacco is the favorite to 849 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: emerge from a complicated four man quarterback competition and win 850 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: the starting job out of week one. All right, guess 851 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: what everything's on the table in Cleveland? Okay, this idea 852 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: that like, one guy's got the advantage, No, the other 853 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: guy's got the advantage. Aren't they all kind of in 854 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: the same spot. It's a team that nobody really expects 855 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 2: a whole lot from. You're probably a stopgap quarterback because 856 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: of all the picks you acquired for next year in 857 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: the trade with Jacksonville. So this site idea that, well, 858 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: Flacco's got the advantage, Kenny Pickett's got the advantage. 859 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 3: Dude. 860 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: Who's to say Dylan Gabriel and Shore Sanders don't have 861 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: the advantage? Everything they don't. Everything should be on the 862 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: table though, in Cleveland. 863 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 3: I'll say this, everything in theory. What you're saying is correct. 864 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 3: But you have a forty year old Joe Flacco who 865 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: has a body of work, and it's no, it's really 866 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 3: in a way, it's really no different than Aaron Rodgers. 867 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 3: Both have one super Bowl. 868 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 5: Now. 869 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 3: Granted, people, Oh, I'm outraged. Aaron Rodgers has all of 870 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 3: these these MVP awards and dah da dah he's a 871 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famer. You're right, but not today. 872 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 5: You know what he is today. 873 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 3: You know what he is today? Said a guy over 874 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 3: forty that's going into what could perceivably be his last 875 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 3: year of football and he has one super Bowl championship 876 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 3: kind of sounds the same to me. I mean, Joe 877 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 3: Flacco forty, he's got a Super Bowl, did really well, 878 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 3: so he has a body of work to stand on. 879 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett is still sitting on a limited resume. He 880 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 3: didn't do horribly bad in Pittsburgh. There were elements that 881 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 3: could have been working against him in Pittsburgh, and it's 882 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 3: led to him having an early departure from maybe possibly 883 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 3: being what the Steelers could have used or needed as 884 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: a you know, starting quarterback. He was a winning record 885 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 3: quarterback when he departed Pittsburgh for Philly, gets an opportunity 886 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 3: to learn from from that staff in Philadelphia. He claims, Oh, 887 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 3: by the way, not as a starter, but he too 888 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 3: has a super Bowl ring on his resume as well. 889 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 2: Got playing time in that super Bowl. Okay, that counts. 890 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 3: You have two super Bowl winning quarterbacks on your roster. 891 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: I believe those are the Those are if you're saying 892 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: everything's on the table for consumption, those are the main courses. 893 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 3: Those are the one that's the turkey you brought out. 894 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 3: That's the ham you brought out. It's the fourth of July. 895 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 3: That's the ribs that you brought through. Like, that's those 896 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 3: two right there. Now as it applies to Dylan Gabriel 897 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 3: and Shador Sanders, I just honestly believe, and especially now 898 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 3: that we've seen the coverage of Shador Sanders seemingly kind 899 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 3: of cool off. The overwhelming amount of coverage on him. 900 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 3: I think was placing a target on Stefanski in this 901 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns team. But that has kind of it's tailed 902 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 3: off a little bit, and now it looks as though 903 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: you're getting into what it's really going to be going 904 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 3: into the training camp season, and I think that it's 905 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 3: a reality to say that they're not factors in getting 906 00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 3: on the field. In fact, the biggest the biggest win 907 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 3: for Gabriel and for Sanders would be able to make 908 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 3: the active roster or possibly get on the practice squad 909 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 3: and see what happens from there. Does another team try 910 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 3: to claim your rights or whatever it may be, It 911 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 3: may end up putting you in a different situation on 912 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 3: a different team. But that's the reality for these these 913 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 3: rookies that that is tremendous. That is a tremendous hill 914 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 3: to climb to go from the fifth round to starter. 915 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 3: It is a tremendous climb to go from third round 916 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 3: to starter. When you have two guys that are in 917 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 3: front of you that are veterans, and one has a 918 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: lot of potential. He's not he's not he's not counted 919 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 3: out as being just a bust of a draft for 920 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 3: the Steelers. He still has some potential and he's young. 921 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 3: The other is older, and you feel a little bit 922 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 3: of comfort knowing that if it doesn't work with this 923 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: younger guy, that could potentially be what we need. We 924 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 3: have Joe Flacco to put in that can steady and 925 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 3: write the ship probably be a great influence on the 926 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 3: locker room. So Jonas, I think that it's really not 927 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 3: everything's on the table. If you're looking at the two rookies, 928 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 3: you're probably looking at it. There's your corn, right, there's 929 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 3: your corn on the cob, there's your macaroni and cheese, 930 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: whatever it may be. They're side dishes, but they are 931 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 3: far from the main dish in this course. 932 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 2: My thought on it is this, I think everything should 933 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 2: be on the table because it's the Browns and the 934 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: situation they're in. They should not be closed minded to 935 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: any option at quarterback. And you know, you made some 936 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: comments a few weeks back about listen, just make suit 937 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: or the starter, like at this point, just make them 938 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 2: the starter, and you know you got pushback on that 939 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 2: and some blowback, and my thought was, well why not, 940 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 2: Like why is everything just a surefire bet that it's 941 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 2: going to be Flacco or it's gonna be Kenny Pickett. 942 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 2: Open this thing up and whoever plays the best, you're 943 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 2: gonna get the opportunity to be any politics. There shouldn't 944 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: be any contractual obligation added into the mix. Kenny Tanny 945 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 2: Pickett's not on a long term deal, neither is Joe 946 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 2: Flacco and Dylan Gabriel and shad Or Sanders are mid 947 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 2: round draft picks. So I look at I go, everything 948 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: should be open for discussion when it comes to this. 949 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 2: Nobody's opinion or theory should be considered crazy. Everything should 950 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 2: be under open for discussion. I think it'll be Flacco 951 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 2: because I don't think Kevin Stefanski's got the wiggle room 952 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: to be able to survive another bad year and then 953 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 2: come back next But he. 954 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 3: Has the wiggle room That just throws the door Sanders 955 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 3: in as I think. 956 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 2: I think Kevin Stefanski is looking at this going, dude, 957 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 2: I need to go with what's going to save my job. 958 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 2: I personally feel like that's gonna be Joe Flacco. But 959 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: I don't think Stefanski's in a position to be like, 960 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, no, no no, I've got time or 961 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: I've got this. I can I can kind of, you know, 962 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 2: play with this or experiment with that. If I'm Kevin Stefanski, 963 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I know what this organization has. They've 964 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: got multiple first round draft picks next year. Next year 965 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: is a much better that's the opinion from the experts. 966 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: Much better quarterback draft class. But I've got to produce 967 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: at some point now or else I'm not going to 968 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: be here next year. And if I'm Stefanski, he's got 969 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 2: to take a look at everything everything to figure out 970 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: what is what is my best path to try and 971 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: keep my gig. I think it's going to be Flacco. 972 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 2: But this idea that like, well, no, it's it's this 973 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: and so and so's got the advantage and that person's 974 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: got the advantage. Dude, you have no idea. Until you 975 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: get to training camping into games, you have no. 976 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 3: Clue the real the real measurement here is it's very 977 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 3: difficult to be able to see if a rookie that's 978 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 3: never played is ready. You can get an indicator of 979 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 3: their their AQ by how they pick up the playbook, 980 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 3: how they handle their reads on the field, how they 981 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 3: even give the play call, how they command the the 982 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 3: team you know, and how they approach the play. But 983 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 3: until you're in a game, a real game, not even 984 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 3: a preseason game, a real game where they can hit 985 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 3: you and everything matters and everything counts. This is not 986 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 3: for scrimmage for play, This is not for s's and giggles. 987 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 3: This is real bullets in the chamber that are coming 988 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 3: at you now in those games, there are only two 989 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 3: guys that have those types of reps under their belts. 990 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 3: There are only two guys that have that type of 991 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 3: film on their resume, and it's not those rookies. So 992 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 3: if everything that you're saying is to remain and hold 993 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 3: true that this is his time to do it, or 994 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 3: get off of the esser and move on and let 995 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 3: somebody else get on the pot, then he is not. 996 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 5: To me. 997 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 3: That is not a wise and a prudent move to 998 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 3: put in a third rounder or a fifth rounder to start. 999 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 3: I just don't see it. And there's no reason to 1000 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 3: have had Picket or or Flacco on the roster if 1001 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: that's what you were going to do, because you may 1002 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 3: lose your job by the end of the third, fourth week, 1003 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 3: fifth week. You may lose your job depending on how 1004 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 3: badly or how poorly they look. That's the potential of 1005 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 3: what you face. Now. Granted, if you did it and 1006 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 3: it works out, that's different. That's different. You look like 1007 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 3: a genius. Nobody has anything to say, oh my gosh, 1008 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 3: we said this all along, boom boom boom, But who 1009 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 3: is that? Which rookie is that? I don't even think 1010 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 3: we know which rookie that is. Like you said, there's 1011 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 3: been reports like that, have been conflicting reports on who's 1012 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 3: actually having the most impact as a rookie on the 1013 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 3: mini camps and the OTAs that have taken place. So 1014 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 3: to me, right now, the most feasible approach to this, 1015 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 3: if I'm Stefanski in the Cleveland Browns, is to go 1016 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 3: with the guy that you know is going to give 1017 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 3: you the best opportunity to when that sounds cliche but 1018 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,919 Speaker 3: in a redundant but that's what it is. I think 1019 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 3: that's Joe Flacco. If they're giving it to Kenny Pickett 1020 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 3: based off of where they are right now, I wouldn't 1021 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 3: say it's totally egregious. All I would say is is 1022 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 3: that he's not going to have a whole lot of 1023 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: time if he doesn't get in there and show that 1024 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 3: he can get it done and they can make things 1025 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: work very quickly, very early. I would not be surprised 1026 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 3: if it's shifted to Flaco as quickly as possible. If 1027 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 3: Flaco doesn't get it done, he stays in. Listen, he 1028 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 3: stays in as the starting quarterback, and they're going to 1029 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 3: try to figure it out for the duration of the season, 1030 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 3: and the only way Pickett comes back in is if 1031 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 3: Flaco gets hurt and can't continue on and then only 1032 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: then will that show or give any relevance to those 1033 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 3: rookies as to what they may do. Again, I still 1034 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 3: believe this is a boom or bus proposition with Shador Sanders. 1035 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 3: If you're not really working to get him into that 1036 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 3: rotation of playing, I don't really see that they have 1037 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 3: the value that it holds value to hold four quarterbacks. 1038 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 3: One of those one of those draft picks face getting 1039 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: released from that team, and I'm telling you, fifth round 1040 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 3: pick versus third round pick, it's a no brainer that 1041 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 3: it's the fifth round pick. Take the names out of it. 1042 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 3: It's a no brainer that if you're going to release 1043 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 3: a quarterback on your team when you could when you're 1044 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 3: generally only carrying two to three quarterbacks at that position, 1045 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 3: there's a strong possibility that Gabriel ends up on the 1046 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 3: practice squad and Shador Sanders ends up going elsewhere, becoming 1047 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 3: a free agent through release. 1048 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes when I'm betting on horses, because I 1049 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: don't know what the hell I'm doing, I'll just bet 1050 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 2: like four horses to win and be like, you know, 1051 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean something's got to hit. You know, it's like 1052 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: ten to twelve horse fields. Something's gotta hit. 1053 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 3: Do that would Roulette? 1054 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you bet the inside and it'll. 1055 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 3: Beat the hell out of you trying to come up 1056 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 3: with what you think what strategy is going to win. 1057 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: Here's what's great about this. You can I think you 1058 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 2: can bet on the brown starting quarterback. I would literally 1059 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: place a bet on all four because I think anything 1060 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,439 Speaker 2: could happen. I really did, like they're they're in such 1061 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 2: a spine. 1062 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 3: I've done that in Roulette and it landed on Green. 1063 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 3: Took all my mind. I think Lee was with me. 1064 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 3: I put all this cash down on evens, odds, Black Rid. 1065 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 3: That bit's hit Green. Oh yeah? Would I would never 1066 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: gamble again too, I mean I put it all out there. 1067 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be looking ashtrays, I'd be I'd be jumping 1068 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 2: in the Blagio fountain like it'd be. 1069 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 3: That's terrible. You want to know the point. You want 1070 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 3: to know the ultimate point of that story. Maybe these 1071 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are red and black and evens and odds. You 1072 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,959 Speaker 3: don't have any Green on your team. Maybe your Green 1073 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 3: is rehabbing. 1074 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: Or maybe you're green. 1075 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 3: Maybe your green is rehabbing. Maybe he's sitting there and 1076 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 3: in the wings, he's getting healthy. Everybody's talking about all 1077 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks right here. What are you going to do 1078 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 3: with her? These guys? He steady rehabbing, getting healthy, and 1079 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 3: then he comes back like Superman in a in a 1080 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 3: moment of glory and is now made whole with his 1081 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 3: big contract and lives up to all of the expectations 1082 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 3: he had coming in. 1083 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 2: The NFL's most expensive mentor. 1084 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 3: That would be an amazing That would be an amazing 1085 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 3: storyline that developed. I tell you that