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Speaker 1: I'm still on LA time. It's so difficult for me.

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Speaker 2: Here we go morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Charlamagne, the Guy. We are the

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Speaker 3: breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building,

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Speaker 3: the goddess Janelle Monnet.

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Speaker 2: Hi, welcome.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: The first thing you said is this is the Age

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Speaker 2: of Pleasure.

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Speaker 4: How's she doing first?

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Speaker 2: But that's the first thing she said, How are you listen?

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Speaker 1: Phenomenal? I'm so excited. Album comes out tomorrow today today.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, album comes out to day. Here you go

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Speaker 1: like this is I have been waiting, waiting, waiting. I've

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Speaker 1: been living with this record, living with this soundtrack to

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Speaker 1: my lifestyle, and to finally have it out, it just

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Speaker 1: means it's like I'm excited. I'm super excited.

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Speaker 2: The Age of pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what we're in babies.

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Speaker 2: So why did you call it the Age of pleasure?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've had my age of anxiety. I've

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Speaker 1: had my age of depression, I had my age of confusion,

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Speaker 1: of imbalance, and you know, just realizing that we'll never

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Speaker 1: live in a world where you know, something heavy won't

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Speaker 1: be happening. You know, always problems will have to solve

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Speaker 1: and even in the midst of that, you have to

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Speaker 1: find your joy. You have to actively find your pleasure.

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Speaker 1: And in the words of Maurice's White from Earth, Wind

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Speaker 1: and Fire, if there ain't no beauty, make some beauty.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I want to congratulate you on having

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Speaker 5: a phenomenal body of work. And everything you just said

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Speaker 5: is exactly what I felt when I.

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Speaker 4: Was listening to the album.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like the mentality is like Hakuna Matada, like

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Speaker 5: stress over things, no need to have worries. Let's just

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Speaker 5: live in an age of pleasure. How did you get there?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: Ooh? How did I get there? I mean, I think life,

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Speaker 1: lot of times we look at it, especially as artists,

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Speaker 1: should be working much harder. Our happiness is dependent on

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Speaker 1: things that come to us, you know, good things, great things.

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Speaker 1: But internally I had to get locked in with me.

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Speaker 1: I had to get really locked in with me and

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Speaker 1: reprogramming my mind and exercising them muscle to be Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was telling myself, all those things, the affirmations, all

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Speaker 1: of it just rewired. I'm rewired right now. I feel

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Now you mentioned, you know, you had the age of depression,

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Speaker 3: the age of anxiety, the age of all those things.

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Speaker 3: You know, what got you out of those places? Was

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Speaker 3: it therapy? Was it just taking a break? Was it friends?

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Speaker 3: Was it meditating? Was it you know whatever it may

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Speaker 3: be writing your book at the time. What got you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, having to go back to the root, the root

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Speaker 1: feel like everybody should have free therapy, Like it should

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Speaker 1: like we're in a loop. I just remember being in

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Speaker 3: How did you feel or what made you feel that way?

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Speaker 3: And the reason I asked is right, I have six

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Speaker 3: so you know, I'm just what bothered you so much

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Speaker 2: So what was the abandonment issue?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you talk about the abandonment and rejecting issues,

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Speaker 5: And I actually like the label not supporting you the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this business is designed to make

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Speaker 5: I call it divine misdirection m you know, because like

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Speaker 4: But you're really really end up on the path you're

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Speaker 3: You seem like you're in a happier place now, just

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Speaker 3: But you do know that the fact that you are

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Speaker 3: Like I agree, we can tell that when you put

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Speaker 2: Gonna get This is something planned, This is something that.

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Speaker 3: You've thought of for years, That that that you know

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Speaker 5: But I wonder what makes what makes you? I wonder

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Speaker 5: Is it perfection or happiness? Because I feel like you're

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What is not making us want to even meet? Like

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Speaker 1: They don't feel so long and drawn out? Like we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you get to the point where?

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Speaker 1: It's the age of pleasure? Baby, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: What am I concerned about? And once you deal with

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Speaker 3: And you never were nervous that people are going to

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Speaker 2: Felt that way. To church people that followed me, you

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Speaker 1: Why you want to show you more of your skin?

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Speaker 3: was so different. It was not the norm, it was

435
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: not what everybody else did, and it was still fly cool.

436
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

437
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 5: Do you feel the need to defend the turn though,

438
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: because I saw people getting at you, saying you was

439
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 5: being a hypocrite, You was contradicting yourself because back then

440
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 5: you say people women shouldn't have to show so much again,

441
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 5: or they shouldn't show so much again.

442
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: But then when did I say that.

443
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just saw it on social I

444
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: don't know if you actually said that.

445
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: I never, No, I never, I never. I never said

446
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: that I said that if I if I ever said anything,

447
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we should just pull it up because I've

448
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: never look.

449
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: For it, but I try.

450
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: You will never see anything. I said that showing my

451
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: skin is not what makes me sexy, even right now,

452
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: like it's in me. I have the sex cells, literally,

453
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: like I've never never what I ever try to tell

454
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: somebody what they shouldn't wear. I'm saying for me, you know.

455
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: And I think that was probably at a time where

456
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I felt like I had to defend another reporter, you know,

457
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: defend myself from another reporter asking me when I'm basically winter,

458
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: So why do you keep wearing that suit?

459
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: Yess exactly what you said essence essence interview, and you said,

460
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 5: people don't ask jay Z to take his shirt off

461
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 5: when he rhymes. My skin is not what makes me sexy.

462
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: It was up to me to show people and young

463
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 5: girls there was another way.

464
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: That's not all I said. They omitted that it says

465
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: I'll like skirts and dresses just like everyone else. That

466
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: ain't even the whole quote. Oh that's what you're talking about.

467
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. Yeah, no, I said I like skirts

468
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: and dresses just like everybody else. I wanted to show

469
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: another way, another way of being sexy. That's it, and

470
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: it's not one way. It's not the way, and that's

471
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: the whole point. Nobody should be should feel like made

472
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: to feel like they are, they have to like. It's

473
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: about bodily autonomy. I guess that's the thing. Like, whether

474
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: you're clothed or you're not clothed, you should People should

475
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: should respect you period and not treat you differently based

476
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: on your appearance. It's like if you're sagging your pants

477
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: and he has on a suit. He shouldn't get the guy,

478
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: and the suit shouldn't get the job over you. Police

479
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't stop you because they see you would a gold

480
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: chain around your neck.

481
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: Like.

482
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: We got to get to a point where you know,

483
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: we're respecting all types. Everybody can be their authentic selves

484
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: and and feel safe. That's what it's about. Sagging as way,

485
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I used to think so because

486
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: that's how I was programmed. Sagging is bringing down the

487
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: black community. Pull your pants up.

488
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: I just think it's whack.

489
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 5: Why, especially when you're a certain age old with your pants,

490
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: your pants hanging off your ass.

491
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 4: My pants are fine.

492
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: It's expression if I want to, if I want to

493
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: express myself.

494
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: Like I just I'm not I'm not into I've never

495
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: been into respectability politics. And I think that there were

496
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: people who tried to use my image And we talked

497
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: about this on the show last time when I was here. Yeah,

498
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: they tried to use my image to defein the nounce,

499
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: to talk down on on on on on the on

500
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: other women who were expressing themselves, showing their skin, like

501
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: we all want autonomy. I wanted to. I wanted a

502
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: time of me to wear my suit for teeny years

503
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: without y'all telling me I look like the peanut Man.

504
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: And I did that, and I ain't put my titties

505
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: up because did y'all ask DiAngelo to put his titt's

506
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: up when he did untitled Did y'all do y'all ask

507
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Rick Ross?

508
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: Put? Like?

509
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Come on, now, I can name so many album covers

510
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: and things like the double standards that we have to Like,

511
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: let's not even get into how in some states I

512
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: could go to jail and if you go in a

513
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: gym with your shirt off and I go to gym

514
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: with my shirt off, I could go to jail and

515
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: you could just keep pumping iron, you know, like we

516
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: have to get to We gotta get to that. That's

517
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: the thing we need to be talking about.

518
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: You know when I feel like when you did that,

519
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: that was a big fuck you to everybody.

520
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Let me show you how much I don't give a fuck.

521
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing is, as much as people

522
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: are getting to understand me a little more and you're

523
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: seeing all of me, I'm understanding people more. I mean,

524
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: the Missagyny is jumping out in this country. The double standards,

525
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: the cis heat patriarchal conservative conservatives like y'all are. We

526
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: gotta divest from that system. It is holding us back.

527
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that right now, while we have

528
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: bills in place, let's talk about the trans community, let's

529
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: talk about drag, let's talk about the LGBTQI plus communities,

530
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: and how many laws right now are put in place

531
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: simply saying that you could go to jail if you

532
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: were dressed in drag my suit. If I was somewhere

533
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: and I was doing the drags, I could go to

534
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: jail for wearing that suit. You know, like there's no

535
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: protection for us. They're saying, we can't even talk about

536
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: being queer or being trans in school. We can't even

537
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: talk about being black. Black history, critical race theory is

538
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: being a race. There's an erasure that is happening, happening,

539
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: and all of this is connected. The same people that

540
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: criticize me for being black, queer, pan sexual, uh, you know,

541
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: having bodily autonomy are the same people making these laws.

542
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: It's all connected. And I think until we again divest

543
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: from those systems and understand that the same oppressions that

544
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: are trying to oppress me are also the ones that

545
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: are gonna coming from you. We're not. We're I don't.

546
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we will see the sort of liberation

547
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: that we that we want.

548
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 3: Does it bother you when you see things like you know,

549
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: like the article Charlamagne read and they omitted some things

550
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: for clickbait? Or whenever you talk about something everybody's so

551
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: into your relationship, right, like you say non binary and

552
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: people are like, well, what does that mean?

553
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Is she with this? Does that bother you? Does that

554
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: stick on you? Or is it like go after yourselves?

555
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: You know what? No, And I'm gonna, actually, I'm gonna.

556
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yes, give me some policanta. Yes, let's like it.

557
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's walk around, Let's walk around. Let's let's let's

558
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: let's do it.

559
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Because all right, all right, come on, said, walk around.

560
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: Let's right. I'm sorry, you know, I'm saying this because

561
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I just want to know. I want you guys to

562
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: know this.

563
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

564
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you guys to know. The freedom is

565
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: waiting on you. It's right there. Don't be scared. I'm

566
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna hold your hands. I come in love, I come

567
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: in peace. And of course you know there are things

568
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: clickbaitable things and all of that, but in this age

569
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: of pleasure, we don't even we understand that not everybody

570
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: is as evolved as we are. And I've had to

571
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: understand that. Don't get frustrated by it. I don't know

572
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: what people when. I don't know what happened in everybody's

573
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: lives or your life or my life, or you don't

574
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: know what happened in my life to make me get

575
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: to the point that I'm at. So we just we

576
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: have to just give each other grace and give ourselves,

577
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: give each other grace. I don't get upset. Like again,

578
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: it's what I think about It's what I think about

579
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: me that determines my quality of life. And I know

580
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: that I want to live the best Earth experience that

581
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I possibly can, and with the people I love, and

582
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: with the people who get that, and with the safe space.

583
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: And my prayer and my hope is that people have

584
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: safe spaces where they can. I'll say this freedom, our

585
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: level of freedom will always trigger somebody who has not

586
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: decided that they are ready to get free. I'll always

587
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: trigger that establishment. I'll always trigger proved conservatives or people

588
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: who are respectability politicians or who are anti lgbt QI

589
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: plus communities who are anti black. I will always do

590
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: that as a non binary person, I will always trigger

591
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: that for them. So you have to know that, don't

592
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: get frustrated with it. Hopefully they'll come around. They'll come around.

593
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: You know, you said someone I thought was dope said

594
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: someone album you said, I forgot what song it was

595
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: when you said you no longer lead with ego, and

596
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, what do you think the

597
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: difference between ego and confidences?

598
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: What song was that? By the way, you said what

599
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: I said, what song was that?

600
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: That was? Eyes for two? Oh? This is good? This

601
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: is strong? What does this mean? When it's like strong,

602
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: that means the energy that I've.

603
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: Never seen a flame that bit. I've never seen the

604
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: flame that big.

605
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm from the future. I keep trying to tell you.

606
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I am from the future. I have told you all this.

607
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: I've told you all this since I came out, you know,

608
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: being an android. I'm just I'm ahead, and I've been ahead,

609
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: and I've been trying to get It's like I'm I'm

610
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: actually back having fun because I'm too far ahead. I'm

611
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: not even playing. I'm too far ahead. So this is

612
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: my little moment to have fun. We're going to go

613
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: into election season next year. Everybody should be definitely focused

614
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: on that and this summer though, we're in an age

615
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: of pleasure. We are we we we we are creating

616
00:33:53,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: safe spaces for our people. And ego versus confidence. I

617
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: think I think, yeah, I think ego. Oh hmm. I

618
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: just believe in balancing all things. And I think that

619
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: there's an unhealthy version of ego that like, it doesn't

620
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: allow you to have that vulnerability. It doesn't allow you

621
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: to really really connect like on a on a on

622
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: a vulnerable level that is powerful, Like if you're sharing

623
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: your feelings and it blocks that. It blocks you from

624
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: really sharing your feelings and saying, hey, I'm hurt or

625
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: I need help or or or I was wrong. It

626
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: stops us from apologizing, It stops us from being held accountable. Uh,

627
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: it blocks our growth. You know if it's unhealthy. I

628
00:34:53,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: think being confident, I mean it's balancing all things. You

629
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: can be confident, overly confident about being a beginner. I

630
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: always say this, like, don't be afraid to be a beginner.

631
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that the conflict happens when you think you

632
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: know more than you do and you're in fact, a

633
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: beginner and you're you sold yourself that dream that I

634
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing, I got it together, and in fact,

635
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: you don't.

636
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: When you say beginning, is it you meaning starting over

637
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: or trying something new.

638
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: To try.

639
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Or yeah, yeah yeah, like and not even just acting

640
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: or something like that. But like what can I say? Like, uh,

641
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: if you ain't studied, you may not ace the tests,

642
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, being confident without doing

643
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: the work is not it? Like you can be confident

644
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: though if I know I practiced, I show I've shown

645
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: I've done the work to get my perform ormans together,

646
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Like I know I'm gonna go on this stage and

647
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill it like that, Like that's a different

648
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: level thing because you've done the work. But when you

649
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: actually don't even have the experience and you're confident for

650
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: no reason, I mean, sometimes it can work. You can

651
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Speaker 1: pull So I don't know, I need you know what.

652
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm prematurely answering this question. This is a

653
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: really good question. I'll think about it. I'll think a

654
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: little bit more about it. I don't know.

655
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear an answer. I only have

656
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: eyes for two is a very system. I think destroying record.

657
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 5: Like I feel like you, you know.

658
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: It's what destroying record?

659
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: People? Awa, you should only have eyes for one.

660
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Yeah, I love it.

661
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: I want people to hear it.

662
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

663
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: Sounding joint like it's the second and last.

664
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. It's so pretty. I remember when

665
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: I was recording it and just wanting wanting people to

666
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: I imagine everybody like whine whining to it and you

667
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: meeting somebody that night at the party. That's the that's

668
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: the part of the party where two complete, three complete

669
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: strangers are just like super open.

670
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: I love the record.

671
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can love it so much

672
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: in front of my wife. I want to see what

673
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 5: she was going to say about it.

674
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: That's all.

675
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh did she listen to it?

676
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 4: Not yet? Because I got it, Okay, I'm.

677
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: So happy I listened to the album. That makes me.

678
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I was wondering because sometimes you do

679
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: interviews and people just don't listen to the work, and

680
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I want to just talk about the

681
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: art the music. I mean, can we get into these collaborations?

682
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

683
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Doci, who is just phenomenal. We have a song called

684
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: phenomenal together. I love her. I'm a ray on the

685
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: rush Nia Long who has always been my crush. One

686
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: of the reasons why what I got confident though, and

687
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: in just being like, I'm about to free free the

688
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: nipples because Along told me I had pretty titty.

689
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: That's the reason why.

690
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: So that's it, that's it, Like Along tells you, what

691
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: are you going to say? Like, that's the confidence I needed.

692
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was like, Oh, that's it, that's it.

693
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Because she came to the house and we were recording

694
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: our song, The Rush Together, and I showed her some

695
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: of the press photos and she was like, oh, no,

696
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: you need to go with that photo. She was like, Oh,

697
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: that's it. You got some pretty titties. Go ahead, and.

698
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: That's not even watching an interview and I want to

699
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: rewind you.

700
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't need any more affirmation. And then Grace Jones,

701
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: who also was on the project, came over. This is

702
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: who I was hanging out with when I was making

703
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the record. I showed her stuff. She was like, go, baby,

704
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: do it, do it? Do it? Do it? Like that?

705
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: That is the level of just that's the affirmation that

706
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I need. Like she's been a free ass motherfucker. You know,

707
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: like she she's done this, you know, in her own way.

708
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: So she's been an inspiration for me. And I'm so

709
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: happy she's on the project. C K, who's also like dope.

710
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: His his his music is so good. He's on the

711
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: project with me, shay Son and Egypt eighty We have

712
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: yep with also got Horns unlimited. They did all the

713
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: outcast hornso delicious, all that they're on the project. Who

714
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: am I missing?

715
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 5: By the way, we didn't send none of those features.

716
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: Only the only feature that's listed is Sean. I listened

717
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 5: to that this morning. I didn't know what was because.

718
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: It was Nancy is on their sister Nancy Yep, she's

719
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: on there, like obviously you can't go anywhere without hearing bombbomb.

720
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: So she did some original stuff on there and and yeah,

721
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do some remix stuff with some more features.

722
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: People didn't get a chance to get on this on

723
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: this version, but stay tuned. This is a this is

724
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: this is like this moment as you can see, like,

725
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I love what's going on and hip hop? How are

726
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: you feeling about all the girls?

727
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, man?

728
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: Define And then when as I said, when I listened

729
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 5: to your project one. I thought more of that. I

730
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 5: was like, I don't know what's going on in the universe.

731
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: I don't know what the universe trying to tell us. Yes,

732
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: but it's like, yeah, you really, like women are really

733
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 5: leading in a real way right now.

734
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Speaker 1: I mean being non binary and still being able to

735
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: like see myself and everything that that black women are doing.

736
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean they are killing it. I was listening to

737
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: a Spotify playlist when I was working on my album

738
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: called Feeling Myself, and that's all like women rapping, and

739
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: I think, what y'are? Y'all? Y'all, you guys are experiencing

740
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: a revolution right now of and and and also like

741
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a resistance against division, like we are not being divided

742
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: the same people that would try to divide the Janelle

743
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Monnet in the suit up against you know, another artist.

744
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: A Cardi or a Meigh.

745
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those and those are all women that I

746
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: love and I respect and appreciate. But you have to

747
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: understand for years, like even it's the whole conversation of

748
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: Lauryn Hill versus Little Kim. I'm sure you guys were out.

749
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: I love them both, but and I think they were strong.

750
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: They were strong in all their ways, but it was

751
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: there were definitely times where I felt like, you know,

752
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: people would would not understand that they were strong within

753
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: their own rights, and they would use Lauren's image to

754
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: the great Little Kim's image, and I never liked that.

755
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: Growing up, I saw that and I was like, that's

756
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: not cool. Like, I love both of them. I think

757
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: they're both strong. They're using you know, they're using their

758
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: power in different ways, but they're saying the same thing.

759
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 4: It's all different expressions of.

760
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: And that's what we are. We are in And I

761
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: also it made me feel like, oh, this is my

762
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: time to feel safe now you know what I'm saying,

763
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: because I'll just say again, there were just moments looking

764
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: in the music industry, I didn't feel safe. I didn't

765
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: feel safe walking in a room like this, even in

766
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: a thing, you know, because you you just didn't. You

767
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: just didn't feel safe. So now we are, now that

768
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 1: everybody knows that we are not going to even play

769
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: into the division. It's not gonna work. Get used to it.

770
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: That's right.

771
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's get into a joint off that you.

772
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: Want to hear what y'all want to hear.

773
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 5: Okay, I like phenomenal. I like No Better, I like

774
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: only Eyes for Two.

775
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: I like only Eyes for two, I like Lipstick Lover,

776
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: and I like float.

777
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: Ooh, seemed like y'all like the album. Basically, Okay, let's

778
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: do what's good.

779
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: Ooh, phenomenal.

780
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: We can do phenomenal. I love yeah single. We can

781
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: do listick glover. Excuse me, we do.

782
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we do phenomenon. All right, Well, we

783
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: appreciate you for joining us. Anytime you in town, you

784
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: know you can come on up beautiful and yes, this

785
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: is a safe space for you, so whatever you want

786
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: to come, we love you and appreciate.

787
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Thank you so much, and happy pride,

788
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I must say. And let me ask you a question.

789
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: How are you guys showing up for you know, as

790
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: allies for the l g B t Q plus community.

791
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: If you listen to this show every day, you would

792
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 5: know what they call us husband's husband.

793
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: I love every day. That's good.

794
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: I love it. Gusbands, that's really cute. I love it.

795
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: Tell us we're pushing an agenda all the time what

796
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: they tell us.

797
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, okay, that's.

798
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: What I guess. That's what it's called. When you just

799
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: embrace it everything.

800
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how people think like being gay or

801
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: being trends or being non binary, being queer, like it's

802
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: on some new ship, like we just made up within,

803
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing. You just got to be patient. People.

804
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: They have to they have to educate themselves, and there's

805
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: so much information out here. Get educated. Like this is

806
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: nothing new. We have We have been here, We've been queer,

807
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: We've been you know, we we we have been living

808
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: outside of the cis head patriarchal conservative lifestyle. And I

809
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: just want to just say happy pride and whatever our

810
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: allies in those communities or not in those communities can

811
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: do to stay with us and be with us. It's

812
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: a lot of really really evil people trying to on

813
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: a human and human level stop us from existing.

814
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: All I want to answer you a question too, because

815
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like what we describe to do

816
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: here is create safe spaces for all black voices. And

817
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: what I realized is regardless of who comes up here,

818
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: like it can be you know, Jason Lee, be Scott Flame,

819
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 5: when Roll Laverne, whoever it is, if they're from the

820
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: l g B t q I a community, somebody's going

821
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: to have criticism, you know, and.

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00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 4: So that's just what it is. And I think that

823
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: you have to know that.

824
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, everybody has to know it. And I think,

825
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think, but on a human and human level,

826
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: and we're in when we're in conversations with people who

827
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: hold those world views. My hope is that because all

828
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: those conversations lead to is Okay, well, we don't have

829
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: to care about trans people anymore. We don't. As we know,

830
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: a lot of our trans siblings are being murdered every

831
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: single day just for existing. And I think the language,

832
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: whether we oppose it right then and there, when somebody

833
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: says something transphobic or homophobic or not, that language travels,

834
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: and it travels on a policy level, it travels on

835
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: a like, oh, we don't need to care about them,

836
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: in the same way that white people would think, oh,

837
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: we didn't need to care about black people, you know,

838
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: and white it's up to white people to talk to

839
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: their people. So those of us who are more privileged

840
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: in this country, if you're listening right now, we need you.

841
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: We need you to just stand up, say something, speak out, support, vote,

842
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: do the right thing.

843
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: You privileged to come back prejudice absolutely well, it's Janelle.

844
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Right now, and I'm not shaving my under arms. I've

845
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: seen the comments. They will not be shaved. You will

846
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: get into it. I don't know. I just felt like

847
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: saying that.

848
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's a breakfast club.

849
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 4: Go morning.

850
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: Holdo, we just got to do read for BT on

851
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: the show.

852
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: This is great. I love that. All right.

853
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: When we come back, we got more with Jenail monations.

854
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: Don't move.

855
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: It's the breakfast club on BT. But lock, we got

856
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: more with Jail Money. It's the breakfast club on BT.

857
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: We're back.

858
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: Let's get into our interview with Janelle Money. It's the

859
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: breakfast club on BT.

860
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, y'all better be professionals, gonna take Okay,

861
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: let's do it.

862
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: Chris Ball, you will last night. Yeah, that's what you said.

863
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: All right, first right, here we go one, two three,

864
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: all right, more right, gotta change your two three.

865
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Speaker 1: I love it.

866
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Speaker 2: One more please?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's my.

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Speaker 6: H so much, thank you, thank you love.

869
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870
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Speaker 4: Who used him?

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