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Speaker 1: Hello, Hurdler's Emily Abadi.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to episode fifty five of Hurdle, a

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Speaker 1: podcast that talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top CEOs

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Speaker 1: and athletes about how they got through tough times hurdles

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Speaker 1: of sorts by leaning into wellness. In today's episode, I'm

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Speaker 1: chatting with mister Beautiful himself, Kenny Santucci. He is a

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Speaker 1: self proclaimed fitness enthusiast. You also might recognize him from

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Speaker 1: past seasons of MTV's The Challenge and some other good things.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this right off the bat, this

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Speaker 1: episode kind of just feels like one big breath of

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Speaker 1: slash hurdle. Now let's talk about Kenny. Kenny has made

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Speaker 1: himself a staple year in the New York City fitness community.

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Speaker 1: But long before he was doing things like bar bell

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Speaker 1: snatches and kettlebal cleans and coaching classes of twenty plus

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Speaker 1: through all sorts of crazy stuff. He was growing up

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey. As a freshman in high school, Kenny

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Speaker 1: was actually two hundred and twenty pounds. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: change from what he calls the cupcake kid, so he

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Speaker 1: turned to sports and fitness to transform his life and

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Speaker 1: found a ton of success actually wrestling both in high

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Speaker 1: school and at the college level. Soon enough, found himself

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Speaker 1: at an audition for MTV's The Challenge and They're He

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Speaker 1: won a few times and excelled at all sorts of

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Speaker 1: crazy things, and after the TV thing was said and done,

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Speaker 1: he ended up here in New York City. He found

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Speaker 1: his passion working in fitness and kind of went through

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Speaker 1: few different Hurdle moments on his way to find his

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Speaker 1: current job at Solace. You know, there was a time

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Speaker 1: when Santucci was living in his car and just trying

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Speaker 1: with what he had. In today's episode, we talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about what that transition was like, finding his place

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Speaker 1: here in New York City, finding his place in the

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Speaker 1: that he can be. Like I said, this episode's full

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Speaker 1: of really inspiring stuff. Kenny and I have been friends

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Speaker 1: us to find the time to sit down have an

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Speaker 1: is going to resonate with all of you. As always

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Speaker 1: at Hurdle Podcast, on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. If you've

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Speaker 1: got a Hurdle moment of your own to share, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say Hi, I love hearing from you.

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Speaker 1: Shoot me an email. It's Emily at Hurdle dot us

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Speaker 1: and as always, I'm going to keep put this out there.

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Speaker 1: I love when you guys share the podcast and what

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Speaker 1: you're learning on your Instagram stories, so please keep doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's time to have some fun. Let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with Kenny Santucci. He is a self

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Speaker 1: proclaimed fitness enthusiast partner at Salas New York, and you

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Speaker 1: may recognize the sud from past seasons of MTV's Real

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Speaker 1: World road Rules Challenge. Good evening, you're.

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Speaker 2: Dating me calling it good evening, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: having me. It's an honor to be here. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering when I was going to get the

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Speaker 1: Kenny and I have known each other for a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got so many famous people on it, might

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me what a day is like in

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Speaker 1: I know your days start off really early.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like to start pretty early.

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Speaker 2: During the week, my average day, I'll get to the

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean she's with me everywhere. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's part of my day. Yeah, after I get up,

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's all sun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have an interesting path to finding your

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Speaker 2: lot of people find hard to believe. They're like, you're

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Speaker 2: I went to high school in Jersey City. Growing up,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could catch with you right now, okay. And

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play football. I didn't know what wrestling wash.

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Speaker 2: I know it was, you know, collegiate wrestling. You're wrestling

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Speaker 1: So did you start to lose to get into different

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I started my freshman year. I was on

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Speaker 2: Everything I ever did was you know, I'd leave work

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Speaker 1: I actually feel like it's a really good time right

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Speaker 2: If you have both, then you're you're probably going to

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Speaker 2: The show the challenge was, Okay, you're in this house.

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Speaker 2: I got to see every continent in different countries.

436
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: And where was the toldst place that you went?

437
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: People ask that all the time. I think every place

438
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 2: has something unique about it that you could fall in

439
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: love with. When I was in Australia, I mean, it's amazing,

440
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: there's so many beautiful parts of it. I really liked

441
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: surfers Paradise when we're there. That was a really cool

442
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: place to see. And then I love South Africa because

443
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: I really didn't know much about South Africa until I

444
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: went there and I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing.

445
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: This is beautiful country. When one of the shows they

446
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: were like all right, pack up all your stuff. We're

447
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: flying you guys to Patagonia. And so many people didn't

448
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: even know. They're like, where the hell is Patagonia. So

449
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: I was excited about that, but again, it was one

450
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: of those places I would have never gone to had

451
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: I not been on the show. Thailand was really cool.

452
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: I think Thailand was kind of the biggest eye opener

453
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: for me because.

454
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: I feel like every reality show goes to time Land.

455
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cheap when you get there, it's dirt cheap

456
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: for everything, Like you could stay in a five star

457
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: hotel for thirty five dollars a night, like five star

458
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: beautiful hotel for thirty five bucks. Yeah, it's definitely worth going.

459
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: It's expensive to get there, it takes long to get there,

460
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: but when you get there, it's pretty cheap. But it

461
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: started to open my eyes and help me appreciate other

462
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: cultures and other religions. Growing up in New Jersey, it's

463
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: everybody I knew was Catholic. You know, I went to

464
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: all guys Catholic high school. I went to Catholic grammar school.

465
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: And when I started to see other cultures and other religions,

466
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, there's Catholicism isn't the best and it's

467
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: not the only thing, and right, you know, so it

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: was really eye opening and I enjoyed that part of it.

469
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there was Obviously there was a

470
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: lot of great points to do in the show. And again,

471
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: like the notoriety, you noticed there were plenty of times

472
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: I've been out to dinners or events and people just oh, yeah, yeah,

473
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: we'll take care of you. Ye're like, oh, this is great.

474
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: After the eighth or ninth show, kind of figuring out

475
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: that it's time to wind down from this life.

476
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wanted something else to fall back on

477
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: it and my agency and this happens a lot that

478
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: agents will be like, well, you need to pick something

479
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: that you're focused on, because if I wanted a host,

480
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: I need to be an expert. Like at the time,

481
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: there was a lot of big shows like those house

482
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: repair shows and you know, culinary shows, like people who

483
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: had shows kind of some of the people I wanted

484
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: to do something similar to was like Man versus Food,

485
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: Like he was in the culinary world and got to

486
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: do this show. And then there was the guy who

487
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: was a contractor and got to do a show. So

488
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if I have a one thing

489
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: I could work on, or one thing I you know,

490
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 2: one genre I was going to live in. I was like, well,

491
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: I want to do like training or something like that.

492
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: So I started to kind of do a lot of that.

493
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: But all through the show I worked out. I would

494
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: seek out different trainers in New York and New Jersey

495
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: and California and wherever I was. I wanted to work

496
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: with like the best people, and I admired their knowledge

497
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: and how much they appreciated how the body moves and nutrition.

498
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: It was one of those things I've always struggled with.

499
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, you're in great shape. I'm

500
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: like not really. I mean I kind of a shit diet.

501
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't really sleep that much. So I wanted to learn.

502
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: I want to understand. I think the more I started

503
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: to understand about training and about changing my body, the

504
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: more I appreciate it, and the more I wanted to

505
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: do for other people.

506
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: So how is this applying to your career at this point?

507
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: Because they were like, if you have a specialty, it

508
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: could be And I was like, what if I was

509
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: a trainer and I taught people how to move better

510
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: and I could do that and they're like, yeah, that

511
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: sounds great. So I kind of threw myself into it.

512
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, one thing led to another. I was always

513
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: kind of doing I was always dabbling in it, and

514
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: then I fully committed myself around you know, twenty six

515
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: twenty seven, I'm like, all right, I'm going to be

516
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: a trainer. So that's when I got a job at Equinox.

517
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So where's this Equinox.

518
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: On forty third and fifth Avenue. I was there.

519
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: I was personal training okay, and did you like it?

520
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: I loved it. I actually remember going home and my

521
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: father's saying to me. He's like, wait, what are you doing.

522
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: He's like, and you make money. He's like, what do you?

523
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: What do you I don't get it. He's like, I

524
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't understand it. But I remember telling

525
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: him I was like, Dad, I really love doing it.

526
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: I really enjoy it, like I look forward to going

527
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: to work, and that never happened in my life before,

528
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: even on the shows. I'm like, fuck, I'm going to

529
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: go for the next five weeks and live with all

530
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 2: these idiots and a house that's meant for seven people

531
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: with thirty people, and be told when to eat and

532
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: when to do this, and it's like this hurry up

533
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: and wait game, because that's obviously what all production is, uh,

534
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: you know, way for people set up lighting and cameras

535
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: and wait for the director and this and that. This

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: was the only time I was like I want to

537
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: be there. And then when I started to see how

538
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: much attention the group fitness instructors got, they I was like, wow,

539
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: I need to do that because that's.

540
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: A group fitness instructor because.

541
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, they get to be the personality and they're

542
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: leading this group of people and they're still doing kind

543
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: of the same thing. You just have more right, more reach. Yeah,

544
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: I fell in love with that. I loved doing group classes.

545
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: Anytime there was an opportunity I'm doing, I'll take it.

546
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: I'll do this, I'll do that. And I enjoy both

547
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: aspects of it. I like teaching someone you know, one

548
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: on one because obviously you get more done. And then

549
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate the group fitness because of the atmosphere.

550
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so you're doing this and this leads you

551
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: to decide to open your own gym.

552
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was doing obviously I was doing CrossFit.

553
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: You know, I just told somebody this the other day.

554
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: The first CrossFit workout I did was in high school. Yeah,

555
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: my coach would have us do like emoms of bench

556
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: press and pull ups and curls and all types of

557
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: stuff and power cleans.

558
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: E mooms for those of you.

559
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those of you who don't know what emom is,

560
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: it's every minute on a minute, Yeah, you do a

561
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: certain workout. It was basically a fight on bad style workout. Yeah.

562
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: We'd do like five or six stations and we'd jump around.

563
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: And then when I was on the show, I had

564
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: started working out with this trainer in Jersey who was

565
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 2: always like, hey, you got to try this workout, and

566
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: we'd like go flip tires and hit it with a

567
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: hammer and I'm like, oh, this is so cool, and

568
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, run up the stairs with chains and do

569
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: all this crazy stuff. And then my buddy started doing

570
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: out in California, so I would like when I was

571
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: out there with him, I would go do that. And

572
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: then when they opened up black Box, I started doing

573
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: when I was moved here, so I was at black

574
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: Box for a little bit and that's when I first

575
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: realized that I didn't know how to do power cleans.

576
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: That's a big moment for you.

577
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, oh shit, I don't know how

578
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: to do it that nice like there was you know

579
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: at the time, there was a girl instructor who was

580
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: just crushing these power cleans. I was like, I need

581
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: to learn more about this. I need to do more

582
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: of this. And then Fifth Avid opened up and I

583
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: joined there. I was like one of the first members there.

584
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: And then when I was at Fifth Ave, I met

585
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: some people who had worked at Reebok and they were like, Hey,

586
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: we're looking to open up a New Jersey kind of

587
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Fifth Avenue type of gym where it's like sponsored by

588
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Reebok and we could do all this stuff and we

589
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: want you to be the head coach. So I'm like,

590
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: all right, cool, I'm in right. So I'm like, I

591
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: know everybody in New Jersey.

592
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: Everybody I know.

593
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the prince in New Jersey. Let's get it going.

594
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: So I went back to Jersey started doing that. Through

595
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: this process, I'm dumping money into this thing.

596
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: But you have all of these winnings, yeah, from all

597
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: of the shows.

598
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: If I told you half the dumb shit I bought

599
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: with this, she wouldn't believe me.

600
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going back to Jersey to work at

601
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: this gym.

602
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so now I'm making the reverse commute, so

603
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm leaving New York. I was living in New York.

604
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: I was driving back to Jersey doing this. About a

605
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: year in kind of realized that money's missing. You know,

606
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: I put my heart and soul into this place. I

607
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: could tell you where every stitch of paint was, every

608
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: board went. I find out that, you know, they're up

609
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: to no good. And it's funny because they actually had

610
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: to close the doors about three four months ago, and

611
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: they declared bankruptcy and the business and stuff. But you know,

612
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: I within six to eight months I had that place running,

613
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: friends there, family there, everything. I mean, it felt like

614
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: a home. It was really great. And now they just

615
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: had to shut the doors. But for actually, one of

616
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: the clients I had signed up, I had met her.

617
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: She's an older woman, she's about forty seven forty eight. Now.

618
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: I had met her at tow in the city one

619
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: night randomly, and she'd been sitting there with a couple

620
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: of her girlfriends and they were like, oh, we weren't

621
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: forget how we got to talking about working out. I said,

622
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: obviously I owned a gym, and we.

623
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: Were obviously, if you can't tell by looking at it,

624
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: obviously I own.

625
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm the most fit guy in America. So I

626
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: told her. I was like, I own this gym. They

627
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: were telling me that they lived in New Jersey. I

628
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: was like, you should come by my gym because clearly

629
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: what you're doing isn't working. And I didn't mean it

630
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: like that. And they were utterly offend, and they're like, fine,

631
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: we're coming by. I was like, yeah, come by. She

632
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: ended up falling in love with CrossFit. I trained her

633
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: for the first two months privately because she didn't want

634
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: to do CrossFit. She had up fall in love with it,

635
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: and now she just bought out the gym, which I'm

636
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: super excited about. Before we had met last Monday, we

637
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: went out for drinks and we were just kind of

638
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: caught up on what she's doing, and she was asking

639
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: me like, Hey, how should I do this? How should

640
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: I do that? I was going to go in as

641
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: a partner. I just couldn't pull it off. Yeah, really,

642
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm tied. My hands are tied here in New York

643
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: and be hard to commute back and forth.

644
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, and she's having a grand opening party this weekend.

646
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I'm very excited for her. It's called

647
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 2: crosset Reinvented. It's my old gym. Yeah, so I'm excited

648
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: for them, and obviously I want to see them do well.

649
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: But I realized that wasn't working with my old partners

650
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: kind of sold off my shares. In the interim of

651
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: obviously selling off my shares and going through this whole

652
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: lawsuit with my partners, it was a nightmare. And when

653
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: it finally was over, I felt like somebody removed the

654
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Empire State Building off my back. Yeah, it was horrible. Obviously,

655
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: paying attorneys isn't cheap. Not having a job isn't cheap.

656
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: And I ran myself, broke everything I had. I was just.

657
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: It was done.

658
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all over, Like anything I had left

659
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: was gone. There was a point I invited my mom

660
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: into my office at my old gym and I go,

661
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm like sixty grand in debt right now, and it's

662
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: that debt on credit cards and everything is just piling up.

663
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: So I was like, do I declare bankruptcy? Like what

664
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: do I do at this point? Because I can't pay

665
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: this stuff and I have no income and I don't

666
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: want to go work at another gym because I don't

667
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: want them using that against me in court that I'm

668
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: like supporting another gym and all this stuff. So I

669
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: came back to the city.

670
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: What did your mom say?

671
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: She's like, I mean, my parents aren't like well off,

672
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: so they're like, you know, you got to do what

673
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: you have to do. And at that point I was like,

674
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: fuck that. No, I'm not giving up. I'll figure this out.

675
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: I'll bury my I'll claw my way out of this thing.

676
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: So I came back to the city started going on.

677
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: I told my agents, I'm like, send me out for everything. Yeah, everything,

678
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: you could send me out for semi out.

679
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: How are you even paying them?

680
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: My agent? Yeah, well, they only take a percentage of

681
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: what I get if I book something. I was working

682
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: at a bar.

683
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: Which I hated working at the bar.

684
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: I hated bartending. Like I love to service people, I

685
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: hate the service industry. Yeah, I'll say after hours and

686
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: train everybody in their mother. Do not ask me for

687
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: a goddamn beer at a bar. I that is miserable.

688
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't help people I admire. I am an overtipper

689
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: because I couldn't. I can't imagine doing that myself. I

690
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: look at nursing and some other professions the same way.

691
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: I admire people who do it because I just don't

692
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: have the ability to do it. So I started working

693
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: at this bar. I'm there one night a friend of mine,

694
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: everybody calls her cue. She's like, this awesome athlete. She's

695
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: actually I think she's having her baby soon. She moved

696
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: out too, since moved out to Nevada. She comes in

697
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: one night and she's like, you look miserable. You hate this.

698
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: She's like, why don't you just come work downtown with us?

699
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, I can't let them find out

700
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: that I'm working at another gym I'm going through. She's like,

701
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: just come, She's like, meet the owners with I think

702
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: that was like a Thursday night, Friday night I went

703
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: in to. This was across the two and two Friday

704
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: night I went or Friday during the day. I met

705
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: the owners. Saturday morning, I was working and I was like,

706
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: just keep this on the deal. I don't want a

707
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: ton of classes. I'm trying to audition, I'm trying to

708
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: do a bunch of other things. And I was like,

709
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: I don't want and when I get my gym back

710
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: or if I could get my gym back, I don't

711
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: want to leave you guys hanging right. So everything was

712
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: so up in the air, and how are you doing

713
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: at this point because I'm driving my car. Well, I

714
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: had at the same time, So me and my old

715
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: roommate had a sweet deal on an apartment on Ninth

716
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: Avenue in twenty first Street. Okay, he had it forever

717
00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: since he went to NYU. Yeah, he's forty two years old. Long,

718
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: he's forty two years old now. At the time, it's

719
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: like five six years ago. They had found out that

720
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: we were getting this sweet deal on this apartment and

721
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: they wanted to jack up the rent. So our rent

722
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: was going from like three thousand dollars a month that

723
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: we were splitting to six thousand dollars a month. So

724
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: it's like, how are we going to do this? So

725
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: I leave my apartment. Some nights I'd stay at my parents' house.

726
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Some nights I'd stay on buddy's couches. Some nights I'd

727
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: stay in my car. But I needed to be in

728
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: the city because I'm like, this is where I can hustle,

729
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: this is where I can make some moves. I'll bartend,

730
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: I'll teach classes, I'll go to auditions. I'll do whatever

731
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: I have to do to start to make money. Funny

732
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: thing is I booked this Crest commercial. I didn't think

733
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: much of it. Thank you for Crest. I'll never use

734
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: another toothpaste butt Crest. I booked this commercial. All I

735
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: do in the commercial is smile. Commercial gets picked up.

736
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: My agent calls me and she's like, hey, you know

737
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: you're going to get this than this, And these checks

738
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: just start rolling in and I go this is all

739
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: from one commercial. I'm like, I got to book more commercials.

740
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: So it starts to help me pull out a dad

741
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: a little bit. I didn't know where the guy's from

742
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: Solace the original, you know, founding owners, Uh call me

743
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: up and they're like, hey, would you want to come

744
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: over here and work whatever they're paying you downtown, we'll

745
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: pay you more. So I was like, all right, that

746
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: sounds good. Yeah. So I was like, could I do both?

747
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Because I didn't want to leave them hanging. And the

748
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: guys downtown were like, hey, listen, if you're going to

749
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: go up there, we'd rather just stay up there. Yeah,

750
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't want you. So I was like, all right,

751
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: were fine, and they were paying they were. I went

752
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: into their officer like what do you want mm hm,

753
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god. And I said

754
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: to them, and I could swear on a stack butt,

755
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: I go, listen, don't pay me anything. Let me show

756
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: you what I could do. You know, give me a month.

757
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: Let me show you what I could do, and we'll

758
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: take it from there. So for the first two months,

759
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: I didn't even get paid.

760
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy, considering your sity c.

761
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I well, I started to make some money

762
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: and stuff, but I wanted to prove to them that

763
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: I was dedicated, that I wanted to be there because

764
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I really did appreciate the space and I was like,

765
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: I could grow this, I can make this happen. Because

766
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: when I first walked in, I go, this whole top floor.

767
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: You guys aren't doing anything with this.

768
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll tell them a little bit about how the

769
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: gym is set up.

770
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Solace's two floors. It's eleven thousand square feet.

771
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: There's this huge in New York huge. There's this massive

772
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: floor up top, it's probably two thousand square feet, and

773
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: then there's a lower level, which is about anywhere from

774
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: sixty five hundred to seven thousand square feet. They were

775
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: only using the basement for classes. Upstairs, they were only

776
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: doing like gymnastics classes once a week or something like that.

777
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: And I said to them, I was teaching a ton

778
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: of classes. I'm doing all most of their crossfey classes.

779
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: And I go, hey, as like, I think we should

780
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: do like a hit class or something upstairs, like something

781
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: not CrossFit CrossFit esque with the essence of CrossFit but

782
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: not strictly CrossFit class, like we could do CrossFit without

783
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: a bar bell basically. And they're like, all right, what

784
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: do you need? And I go, I need five boxes

785
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: or four boxes. We started with four boxes, four rowers,

786
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 2: and a couple sets of kettlebells. So I started putting

787
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: these classes on class bass and teaching all of them myself.

788
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: Put five on, and then I put ten on, and

789
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: then I put you know. And when they first said

790
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: they were like, well, if this works out with fifteen

791
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: person classes, if you could put twenty classes on the schedule,

792
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: we'll be rolling in money. I was like, I don't

793
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: see how that'll work, but okay, fine. So ten became fifteen,

794
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: fifteen became twenty. Now now I'm teaching twenty of these classes,

795
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: twenty CrossFit class. So I'm up to like forty class

796
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: a week. I'm doing private here and there.

797
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: How many other instructors are there at the gym at

798
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: this time.

799
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, they only wanted me teaching this thing, but they

800
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: were I mean, everybody else was just a CrossFit coach. Yeah,

801
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: so they had no real group fitness experience. And CrossFit

802
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: classes are obviously a little different than a group fit class.

803
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: It's not as obviously group fits a little faster music

804
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: and lighting and everything like that. So I would always

805
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: like trying to make it more of a group fit

806
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: class mixed with cross it. I was like, I need

807
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: to hire somebody else. I need some help here. So

808
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: that's when I started hiring other coaches and stuff, and

809
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 2: it started to really do well. And now it's where

810
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: there we have sixty something classes a week on the schedule,

811
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: you know. And it's probably the thing that saved the

812
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: gym because for a while they were just treating the

813
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: gym like it was a you know, the little rascals

814
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: were running it like they were running it to the ground,

815
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, we need to change up this

816
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: model here, we need to do with something a little different.

817
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it was also something that saved you.

818
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: Like all the had a purpose, and maybe sooner or later,

819
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: this purpose comes with not living in your car.

820
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: So it got to a point where I was doing

821
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: really well and I at the time, I started to

822
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: sub lease places, or if somebody was leaving town for

823
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: a week or a month, I would go and stay

824
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: at their place. And then finally I was on Street Easy.

825
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just need my own place. I was

826
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: bouncing around so much, and I was like, I need

827
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: my own place. I find this apartment on street Easy

828
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: and it was right on twenty sixth Street. I love

829
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. I used to live over there. I'm like,

830
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go for it. And now I've

831
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: been in the same place for almost three it's about

832
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: three years now.

833
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

834
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my rent's ridiculous at this point, but I

835
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: love it.

836
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: And I know, how did you get the apartment without

837
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: having like a ton of annual salary to show?

838
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: So that's what happened. So I found it on Street Easy.

839
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: This girl, this woman was moving to London and she's like,

840
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: I need to be out by next week. Anybody. The

841
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: rent was three grand a month. She's like, I could

842
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: give it to you for twenty five hundred. My company

843
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: will pay for the other part of it. Yeah, And

844
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: she's like, I just need to get rid of it.

845
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: So I called the broker, or she put me in

846
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: touch with the broker. I told the broker. I was like, hey, listen,

847
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: I'll pay you up front cash if I could have

848
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: this port. And it was only supposed to be for

849
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: three months. So I paid for the three months upfront

850
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: because that's yeah, I was doing pretty well at this point,

851
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: or I made enough money where I was doing okay,

852
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: and I'm still like chipping away, like all these credit

853
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: card bills and stuff. And then when the lease was up,

854
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: they were like, hey, do you want to renew it?

855
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I could I just do

856
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: it for a couple months because I don't know if

857
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: I can afford this, right, And that couple months became

858
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: three years.

859
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: And now we're still there.

860
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, obviously everybody would love a bigger

861
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: apartment and you know, but I love my neighborhood. That's

862
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: how I don't want to leave that neighborhood. I'm in,

863
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: like flat.

864
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Iron and you get to walk to work every day for.

865
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't buy. I have a subway card, but I

866
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: don't really use it. I don't really have to get

867
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: an uber or you know, get on a bus or

868
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: anything like that, which is my biggest pet peeve in

869
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: the world. I hate traffic. It drives me insane. I get,

870
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, so anxious in you know, road rage. So

871
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: it's good because I get to walk. If I want

872
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: to run, I could run, Yeah, if my dog's not

873
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: pissing all over the place.

874
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,120
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895
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Speaker 1: yours today, let's get back to it. So your parents

896
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: must be pretty proud of you at this point because

897
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: you have gone from talking to your mom in the

898
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: gym office telling her should I declare bankruptcy?

899
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what moved me the most was my

900
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: sister for my birthday, like two years ago, three years ago,

901
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: wrote me this card and she's like, I can't believe

902
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: you turned that all around. She's like, you made something

903
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: so negative or positive. She's like, it's so impressive. And

904
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: when I moved to New York, my whole family stay

905
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: in Jersey. They know they're all live within a town

906
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: radius of each other. I kind of came here and

907
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: just chased what I wanted, you know, and I just

908
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: always did what I wanted to do. And yeah, my

909
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: mom's always I mean, if I was shoveling shit right now,

910
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: my mother would be proud of me. So she's just

911
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: that way. She's always back. There's one person I knew

912
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: who would be at every wrestling match if I was

913
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: sitting there, if I lost one, it doesn't matter, she'd

914
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: be there.

915
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: You know what, I keep noticing. You keep talking about

916
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: your mom, and you're not talking a lot about your dad.

917
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: My dad is was supportive through a lot of this stuff,

918
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: but we would butt heads, yeah, because he's just old

919
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: school and the fact that he you know where I

920
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: get a lot of the it's always my fault. I

921
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: like taking the blame or I take the blame for

922
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: a lot of things because my dad would always make

923
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: me feel that way. It's kind of the extreme owner

924
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: ship idea. I actually just wanted to go see Jocko's

925
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: live podcast, and it's it's a very military style. My

926
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: dad was in Vietnam and then he was a cop,

927
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: and then he was a disciplinarian at a school in Noork.

928
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: So he's always been this authority figure, and it's always like,

929
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: take responsibility for everything in your life. And when I

930
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: went through the lawsuit with the business, he's like, that's

931
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: because you're an idiot. You signed this contract and you

932
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: didn't know what you're doing, blah blah blah. And then

933
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: you know, if I lost on the show, it's like, well,

934
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: that's because you're an idiot and you didn't do this

935
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: and you didn't And if I lost in a wrestling match,

936
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: he's like, that's because you're a weekend you didn't train

937
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: hard enough and blah blah. And I'm like, how is

938
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: everything my fault? But you know, I always try to,

939
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, see the silver lining and things. I'm like, wait,

940
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: it is my fault. I probably didn't train hard enough.

941
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I probably didn't dop my eyes and crossed my tea's

942
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: when it came to the business. And I think that's

943
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: one of the biggest problems that we have in this country,

944
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: is that nobody takes responsibility. If it's going wrong in

945
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: your life, you probably had you could have probably done

946
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: something differently. And I kind of started to own that,

947
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: you know, only in the last year or so, when

948
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: you start to hear other people talk about it. Especially

949
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: people you admire. It makes a lot of sense.

950
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Why in the last year.

951
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, because last year, well last April it was my birthday.

952
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Was my birthday is April sixth I had a party

953
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: on April seventh. April thirteenth or fourteenth, my mom calls

954
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: me up and she's like, we're taking dead at hospital.

955
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: He's having a stroke. So for the first couple of days,

956
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of the doctors were like, I

957
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna make it. Most strokes are you know,

958
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: good strokes. Anyway, the brain bleeds for an hour or two,

959
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: a couple hours, maybe a day. So his brain was

960
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: bleed for like two days, and they were like, even

961
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: if he comes out of this, we don't think he'll

962
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: ever be the same. Right. So it was a big

963
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: kick in the balls for sure, because at last year

964
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: this time, I'm like, oh, I just turned thirty five,

965
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: things are going good with the gym. And then I

966
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: wake up seven am to a phone call. Well my

967
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: brother called me twice, and then my mother called me,

968
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, something's got to be wrong. Yeah, So

969
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: everything else kind of takes a back seat. I Uh,

970
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: I'd go to work, I'd go home at night, I'd

971
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: go back to Jersey to sleep in the hospital with

972
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: my brother. You know, we'd kind of stay there. My

973
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: family's a wreck at this point. My older brother's got kids,

974
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: my sister's got a kid, so me and my little

975
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: brother kind of took responsibility and trying to be there

976
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: as much as possible. Seven months he was in the hospital,

977
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: first couple of weeks were brutal, and I'm sitting there

978
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: and I'm just trying to understand, like everything he's kind

979
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: of told me, you know, everything that's I could have

980
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: probably done differently, And I'm like, what's this going to

981
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: look like? How's my family dynamic now if my Dad's gone.

982
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: So it was it was an adjustment for sure, but

983
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: that sparked what is kind of my new goal. My

984
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: new journey is the strong ideas I wanted to do something.

985
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: I started them like three years ago, and about four

986
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: years ago I had originally drew up the plans for

987
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: like this fitness festival. I wanted to do New York

988
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: because I love events, I love bringing people together, I

989
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: love having people around. And I went to the Coffee

990
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 2: Festival and the Comic Con and the Arnold Classic and

991
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: all these different the boat show, and I'm going to

992
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: all these events to celebrate all these different things. I

993
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: was like, we don't have this in New York. There's

994
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: nothing about fitness in New York, and New York fitness

995
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: scene is a little bit more dynamic and a little

996
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: bit more boutiquy than anywhere else. Right, even so I'm like,

997
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: all right, if I could get everybody together under one

998
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: roof and kind of celebrate this and give it a

999
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: little purpose, Like why we all working out? You know,

1000
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: not everybody wants to. New Yorkers don't work out to

1001
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: be bodybuilders. I mean, how many bodybuilders do you know?

1002
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: Probably know a thousand people that work out, but nobody's

1003
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: who's trying to be a bodybuilder. Right. I grew up

1004
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: on that you got to be a bodybuilder and eat this.

1005
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like that's miserable. You know. New York's don't

1006
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: want to do that, and being a New Yorker is

1007
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: miserable enough, you know. So I was like, what are

1008
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: we celebrating. It's like, we need to get in better shape,

1009
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: we want to have a more graceful life. So I

1010
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: kind of started throwing these events where I bring in

1011
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: all these people who talk about training and talk about

1012
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: longevity and health and wellness and all these things nutrition.

1013
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: And I originally wanted to have it at the Armory,

1014
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: as I saw a bunch of shows there and I'm like, oh,

1015
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: I can't be that much having Then when you start

1016
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: to dig into it, you're like, that's ten thousand dollars

1017
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: for generators, twenty thousand dollars for security and this and that,

1018
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: and you're looking at a one hundred thousand dollars day.

1019
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: And then you only could load in at during this

1020
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: time and load out during this I'm like, all right,

1021
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm just going to do it at my gym. So

1022
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: I started doing these events, and this year I wanted

1023
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: to understand why this happened to my father and how

1024
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 2: I could stop it, how I could understand it more

1025
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: so it doesn't happen to my mother or you know,

1026
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: my aunt or anybody else in my family. And if

1027
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about these things, everybody else probably pretty concerned too,

1028
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: they just don't even realize it. So I wanted to

1029
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: bring awareness to like Alzheimer's and dementia, because after you

1030
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: have a stroke, this could happen, you know. I always

1031
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: compare it to like lights on in a building. As

1032
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: we get older, lights start to turn off, you know.

1033
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: And why this is happening is probably not eating the

1034
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: right way, We're probably not Sleeping's not the only reason,

1035
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: but these things play a factor in it. So if

1036
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: we kind of be as preventative as possible, kind of

1037
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: live a more healthy lifestyle, we could avoid this and

1038
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: what happened to my dad.

1039
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wanted to kind of bring awareness to

1040
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: that and teach people that living a healthy lifestyle not

1041
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: only makes you look better, because that's kind of the

1042
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: cherry on top of the cake.

1043
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: It's going to help you live more gracefully into your fifties, sixties, seventies,

1044
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: so on and so forth.

1045
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: How's he doing now?

1046
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: He's doing good. He uh, you know, he's still kind

1047
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: of jacked up a little bit. He forgets a lot.

1048
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: He's more, i want to say, subdued than he used

1049
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: to be. My dad was always a kind of military

1050
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: style angry, you.

1051
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: Know, anger military style angry.

1052
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like uh you ever watch what's a movie

1053
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: full metal jacket? Like the drill and example. Yeah, he'd

1054
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: always be like when he walked in the house, me

1055
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: and my brothers and my sister like all right, everybody

1056
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: had attention. It's all yeah, so like oh shit, and

1057
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: I always kind of my brothers, you know, kind of

1058
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: fell in line. I always kind of did my own thing.

1059
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: I was the artsy weirdo one.

1060
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1061
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, so now I mean he's he's doing it right.

1062
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: He called me the other day and we actually had

1063
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: a pretty good conversation. Started out as, don't drive, it's

1064
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: going to be really bad out ye know, yeah, it's

1065
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: snowing over here, and I'm like, yeah, I was like,

1066
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: it's not snowing yet here. He's like really, He's like,

1067
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: maybe I should come in. He's like, how are you

1068
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: going to come in? He's like, oh, I'm driving. He

1069
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: hasn't driven. He's like, I'll have Mommy drive me in.

1070
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: We'll hang out, we'll go get dinner or something. I'm like, great, yeah,

1071
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: let's do it. He's like, you know, we should hang

1072
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: out more. And I was like, my dad would never

1073
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: see shit like that. Yeah. So yeah, I don't even

1074
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: know how to look at him. Maybe it was a

1075
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: good thing that happened to him, but he was to

1076
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: see somebody you admire that much, you know. He was

1077
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: always strong, Like I've seen my dad cut his hand

1078
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: open and you know, put a band aid over and

1079
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: not care. He was just always like such a macho

1080
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: guy's guy. He never cared about anything. Yeah, to be

1081
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: curled up in a ball in a bed, shriveled up.

1082
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: You know, if you're in a bed like that for

1083
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: six seven months, everything at trophees and falls apart. And

1084
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't. I don't want to see other

1085
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. It's such

1086
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: a horrible thing. Uh. And then when you're talking to

1087
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: somebody and they really clueless to who you are. You know,

1088
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the drugs they were giving them, uh,

1089
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: you know, kind of messed with his brain. And they

1090
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: give this for this and this to counteract this and this.

1091
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, if he would have just worked out more,

1092
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: if he would have done more stuff, he could have

1093
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: recovered faster.

1094
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: He sound like you're done now. Yeah, yeah, well you're

1095
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: the one that did this to you.

1096
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's true though, And I tell everybody that

1097
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: it's like, take responsibility for who you are. And that's

1098
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: kind of what I said about the book. It's like

1099
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: everybody's got their gifts. You know, you were asking me, like,

1100
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: what books I recommend him. One is kind of a

1101
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: kid's book, a child simple story about like kind of

1102
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: taking ownership for who you are.

1103
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: What's the book?

1104
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's called Stone Soup. And I put this up

1105
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: on Instagram like a year ago or two years ago,

1106
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: and somebody's like, oh, that's about a guy who tricks people,

1107
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, you can look at it

1108
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: that way. I look at it the way its beggar

1109
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: comes to town and he knocks on everybody's door asking

1110
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: for food, help and shelter, and nobody's willing to help

1111
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: him out. Goes into the center of town, starts enough

1112
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: this pot of water. He's got it burning, and one

1113
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: guy comes over and he's like, oh, what do you make.

1114
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, Stone soup. He's like you should try something.

1115
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: He's like, if you have any carrots, though, it'll taste

1116
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: way better if you put some carrots, and the actually

1117
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: throws carrots in. Another guy comes up and he's like, oh,

1118
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: what are you cook And he's like, I got you know, uh,

1119
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: I got stone soup. If you had a turkey or

1120
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 2: chicken or something we could put in there, it'll taste

1121
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: a lot better. Slowly, but surely, everybody in town throws

1122
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: in their ingredients, throws in their gifts, and at the

1123
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: end of the day, everybody's kind of celebrating and drinking

1124
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: and eating and having a good time. So it's everybody's

1125
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: got their gifts right. And I think my dad's gift

1126
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: was you know, I didn't understand that. I was like,

1127
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: why he's so mad, whise he's so angry? And his

1128
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: gift to me was that he was this, you know

1129
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: kind of person who showed me at the time. I

1130
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: didn't understand right the first time I went to him.

1131
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: I didn't understand why he wouldn't help me, Why you

1132
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't be you know the TV dad. Yeah, but it

1133
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: taught me how to be a lot stronger. It taught

1134
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: it got me through those shitty times, you know, because

1135
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: there's especially when you're going through like when I was

1136
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: going through the lawsuits and I'm sleeping in my car,

1137
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: it's easy to feel bad for yourself, be like, oh

1138
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: poor me, why me? It's like, no, you fucked up.

1139
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: You got to figure this out, and no one's going

1140
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: to help you figure it out, you know, when you're

1141
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: that lower. Even my mom was like, well, it's just

1142
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: a clear bank. And it was my dad in me

1143
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: that was like, don't give up. You screw this up,

1144
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: now figure it out right. So that was like his

1145
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 2: his gift. It was never there was never leniency. There's

1146
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: never a give up in that.

1147
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: Obviously, your dad played a huge role in shaping who

1148
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: you are. But who else do you think has given

1149
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: you some really excellent advice along the way.

1150
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: I think my dad was that, you know, they and

1151
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: my brother and my mom or the yang. My older

1152
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: brother would would always be the one to be like,

1153
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: do you like I liked art and everybody's like, you

1154
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: can't do art. My brother's like, if you like it,

1155
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: do that, Yeah, chase it, do that. And when I

1156
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: said I was going to move to the city or

1157
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: go on TV or do whatever, anything that would you know,

1158
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: my family's very blue collar. Everybody in my family's a

1159
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: teacher or cop or a fireman. And when I said

1160
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to go do all this abnormal you know

1161
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: things in the eyes of my family, my brother was

1162
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: always super supportive of it. And knowing that he was

1163
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: there kind of backing me up. That's why I'm like,

1164
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm loyal to a fault When it comes to work

1165
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: and different things, because that's the way I grew up.

1166
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: If I knew something was wrong, I could run to

1167
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: my brother, I could run to my family. I always

1168
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: had that, and I find it almost sad and in

1169
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: a point where people don't have that, when people don't

1170
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: have somebody that could rely on when things when things

1171
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: were at it darkest, I'm like, all right, I know

1172
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: I can handle my shit, but I also have my

1173
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: family kind of backing me up, so that that helped

1174
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: me make a lot of the power plays that I

1175
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: did and kind of take risks at different points in

1176
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: my life.

1177
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: What's been some of the best advice that you've been

1178
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: given in your career. When you started at SOLA, you

1179
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: were not a partner, so you've obviously taken some good

1180
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: steps along the way to not only build your personal brand,

1181
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: but also build the brand of this gym.

1182
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: I can't really pinpoint where I heard it, or you know,

1183
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: if it was ever really said to me. It's kind

1184
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: of just the way I've been. I just want to

1185
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: be really good at what I love because then, and

1186
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: obviously it's written everywhere, it's you know, be so good

1187
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: they can't ignore you. I think somebody said that as

1188
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: an actor or somebody. But that's that's what I thought.

1189
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to be so good. That's why

1190
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: don't pay me to do it, because I'm going to

1191
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: be I'm going to be such a vital part of

1192
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: this place that you'd be an idiot if you got

1193
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: rid of me.

1194
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1195
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: But it wasn't something somebody had to tell me to do.

1196
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: Wasn't something like I'm going to go do that. It's

1197
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: just something I did on a daily basis. I enjoy

1198
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: doing it. I love doing it. So my advice to

1199
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: everybody all the time is like, find what you really

1200
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: like doing. Find what you would do if somebody wasn't

1201
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: paying you, if there was no money involved. What do

1202
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: you enjoy doing, Whether it's playing video games, reading books,

1203
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, doing podcasts, training people, it doesn't matter what

1204
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: it is, be really good at that. And nowadays it's

1205
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: really easy to find an opportunity to do those things

1206
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: where you could review books on Instagram or on a podcast,

1207
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: you can review video games, or you know, be a

1208
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: I was just watching this documentary the other day about

1209
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 2: these kids who make millions of dollars playing video game competitively,

1210
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. Like, the most relevant person on the

1211
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: planet right now is some kid who like plays video

1212
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: games really well, you know, he's like a multi million

1213
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: Like Drake's asking him to hang out. Yeah, this kid

1214
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: who plays video games. So it's crazy to me.

1215
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: What am I doing wrong?

1216
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: Right? So you think about it, And that's all I

1217
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: wanted to do, And that's why I go to so

1218
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: many different Last week, I did a certification. This weekend,

1219
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: I did a certification. Next this coming weekend, I'm doing

1220
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: a service game.

1221
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: And when you say certification, those are fitness certifications, different skills.

1222
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did one for you know, the USA

1223
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: w and then I a Maze certification, which is like

1224
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: a tool that on it kind of made popular in

1225
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And then this week and

1226
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm re certifying my CrossFit certification only because I truly

1227
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: believe that you can learn from anyone, and I I

1228
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: can't be the best trainer for you unless I know

1229
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: what the hell I'm talking aunt and continue to learn.

1230
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: So how do I service my clientele better? How do

1231
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: I learn more? How do I learn how to make

1232
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: you better? And if I'm doing that for people, then

1233
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: other people notice and you know, money is a byproduct

1234
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: of being really good at what you're doing.

1235
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you've learned a lot in the past five years.

1236
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: What do you hope for the next five years.

1237
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: But I always play every day, day to day. Anytime

1238
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: I've ever planned anything, it never works out. Like I

1239
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: opened that gym and I'm like, this will be my gym,

1240
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: this will be great, and that fell apart, and anything

1241
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: I've ever done kind of fell apart. So I just,

1242
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: like I said, I just continue to do what I

1243
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: do on a daily basis really well, you know, despite

1244
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: what's going on around me, I just want to perform

1245
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: the best I can, and people take notice of that,

1246
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: whether you think so or not. There are people always watching,

1247
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: there are people always paying attention. So you want to

1248
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: operate under the the idea that all eyes are on

1249
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: you and that you do what you can do as

1250
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: well as possible. So if I were to tell you

1251
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 2: five years ago, I would have never thought I'd be here.

1252
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: Five years ago, I was opened to my gym and

1253
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: I was like, this is going to be great and

1254
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: I'll be here, And now it's gone. But it's funny

1255
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: because now a friend of mine has now opened up

1256
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: my old gym again. Yeah, so you never know how

1257
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: the tides are going to turn. I mean, I didn't

1258
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: think my family would be thrown through a loop, and

1259
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: you know kind of deal with all that stuff, but

1260
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: you kind of just kind of roll with the tide.

1261
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: I always say, like, plan for the worst, but hope

1262
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: for the best. You know, hope everything is going to

1263
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: go well. And I know for a fact that I'll

1264
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: continue being the health and wellness world. I told somebody

1265
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: the other day. Somebody asked me we were talking about

1266
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: different gyms, and I was saying, like, rumble in a

1267
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: lot of these places kind of they're just opening up

1268
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of studios and eventually their plan is to

1269
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: sell them off. I was like, I don't If I

1270
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: create something, I don't want to sell it off. You know.

1271
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: I want to continue to build it. I want to

1272
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: continue to grow with it. I want to be a

1273
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: part of it. I want to show up to the

1274
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: gym every day. My plan isn't to make something and

1275
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: sell it off. I said to myself a long time

1276
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: ago that I want to be in the gym. If

1277
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: I close my eyes, Mike puts does barbell shrugs said

1278
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: to me, did a cool little kind of thing. One night,

1279
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: we were all hanging out and he's like, close yourrising

1280
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: and he's like, tell me, step for step everything you

1281
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: would do in your perfect day. And in my perfect day,

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01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to the gym and I'm going to probably

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Speaker 2: spend most of the day there train people and work

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Speaker 2: out and teach class. So for me, it's like, if

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Speaker 2: I could do that well into my seventies and eighties,

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I'd love to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because if you think back on your life

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Speaker 1: right now in that whole chapter when you were doing

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Speaker 1: all the TV stuff, yeah, Like does it feel like

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Speaker 1: it almost never happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. I I never bring it up. You know,

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Speaker 2: people are like, why is it in your profile on

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Speaker 2: your Instagram. I go, It's it's not a thing. It's

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Speaker 2: it was cool, it was fun. It was an opportunity

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Speaker 2: that I come up. I enjoyed it because I got

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Speaker 2: paid to just do what I want to do and

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Speaker 2: be me and hang out and compete because I'm one

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Speaker 2: of the things I love about CrossFit. Like even today,

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Speaker 2: I was working out with two of my coaches and

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Speaker 2: were racing each other and I'm like, I feel live again,

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Speaker 2: which is great. Like, that's why I loved about wrestling.

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Speaker 2: That's what I loved about football. People always say you

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: don't watch sports. I said, no, I fucking hate watching sports.

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Speaker 2: I could care less to wear another guy's jersey on

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Speaker 2: my back. I want to compete, obviously, I'm not at

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Speaker 2: the point where I'm willing to sacrifice my shoulder or

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Speaker 2: my leg to do so.

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Speaker 1: It's like things you only say if you want to

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Speaker 1: compete and CrossFit, I don't want to sacrifice my entire body.

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Speaker 2: Well, cross fit, you know, everybody's always like it's so dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, CrossFit is more safe. Like I did dead

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Speaker 2: lifts and box jumps and rowing today. I know I

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Speaker 2: could do all those things really well. I've done them

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Speaker 2: a hundred times. I can do them fast, I can

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Speaker 2: do them slow. I know what I'm doing. If I

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Speaker 2: step out on the mat and fight another guy, we're

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Speaker 2: going at it. He's looking to kill me and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking to kick his ass. I'm gonna get hurt. It's

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Speaker 2: going to happen, you know. The last Yeah, the last tournament.

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Speaker 2: The last tournament went into I couldn't talk for like

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Speaker 2: two weeks because I got choked out and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: walk because my foot was killing me. I was like

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Speaker 2: doing jiu jitsu tournaments and stuff because I wanted to

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Speaker 2: wrestle again. And there's no real, you know, league for

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Speaker 2: old men to wrestle. And you know, I knocked my tooth.

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Speaker 2: I chip my tooth again, I had a black eye,

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Speaker 2: and I had ring where I'm on my neck, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm thirty years old. I can keep doing this,

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Speaker 2: so CrossFit for me, it's a lot safer than wrestling

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Speaker 2: somebody on a mat.

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Speaker 1: To each their own, man, you have an opportunity right

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Speaker 1: now to offer yourself one piece of advice when you

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Speaker 1: look back on this time in your life where you're struggling,

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Speaker 1: You're living out of your car, your shoulder is completely

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Speaker 1: off engined. What do you tell yourself looking back on it?

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Speaker 2: Now? Keep going, Just keep going. That's all I can do.

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Speaker 2: You know, people always want to dwell on for me

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Speaker 2: why this happened? You know, this shouldn't happened. People are

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: going to do what they want to do, and things

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Speaker 2: happen all the time. There's no real explanation for him.

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Speaker 2: Why does a child die? Why is you know, that's

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Speaker 2: why I became more spiritual than you know. Religious things

1343
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: are going to happen. You just always need to operate

1344
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Speaker 2: the best you possibly can, have people's best intentions involved,

1345
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Speaker 2: be good to people, and just move on. You know,

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Speaker 2: if I spent the last four or five years of

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Speaker 2: my life trying to get back at my partners or

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Speaker 2: sue them or do all this shit, I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have had all the opportunities that I had. If

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Speaker 2: everything I did was out of vengeance or malice, then

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have had a lot of the things I

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Speaker 2: have right now. And I'm not saying I'm well off,

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Speaker 2: but I'm I'm pretty content. Obviously, everybody wants more. You

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Speaker 2: should always strive for more, but understand that in the

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Speaker 2: moment right now you have a lot, and that you

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Speaker 2: should just kind of move forward to what you should do.

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Speaker 2: Be good to people, and I think those things will

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Speaker 2: come back to you.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thanks Kenny, Thank you, thanks for hanging

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Speaker 1: out with me.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Please take a moment to leave a quick review by

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Speaker 1: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

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Speaker 1: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle

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Speaker 1: dot usk. Next with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Hurdle Podcast Kenny. Where do they find you? Where

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Speaker 1: do they find your gym?

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Speaker 2: At Kenny Santucci Very easy to find. My Instagram is

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Speaker 2: really entertaining at Solace, New York. We're at thirty second

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Speaker 2: and Park Avenue and then Strong, New York. If you

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Speaker 2: give them a follow, and then Lola loves her following,

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Speaker 2: she's blown up. So at Lola the shar Pei, leave

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Speaker 2: her a comment and don't ask her what she likes

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Speaker 2: to do, because as long as she's not shitting on

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Speaker 2: my bed again, I'm happy about everything she's doing.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily a body, another hurdle conquered. Catch

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Speaker 1: you guys next time