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Speaker 2: The New York Giants fall to the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: and they fall to zero and three on the season.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs improve to one and two.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, John Schmelt, Tiki Barber, Bob Poppa. We're waiting

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable at the podium downstairs with all the player

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Speaker 2: sound from inside the locker room and the podium as well,

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Speaker 2: and Tiki. I feel like this is a refrain that

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Speaker 2: I've had before. If you're gonna go out there and

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Speaker 2: have less than three hundred yards of offense, that's generally

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Speaker 2: not going to do it for you, and against a

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Speaker 2: team like the Chiefs, when you have the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: make some plays on both sides, whether it's dropped interceptions,

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Speaker 2: not coming up with a fumble that can give you

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Speaker 2: the ball inside the ten yard line, having kicker issues

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Speaker 2: which messes up your offensive plans in terms of going

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Speaker 2: forward on fourth down.

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Speaker 1: You know, put all that in the pot, stir it up,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you get a twenty kwod.

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Speaker 3: And I don't even know where to start with this one.

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Speaker 3: We said it in halftime. And when I think about

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Speaker 3: the names, the guys, the talent that's on this roster,

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Speaker 3: I can come to no other conclusion that this is

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Speaker 3: perhaps the greatest group of underachieving good players who have

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Speaker 3: no ability to make plays or be playmakers, and the

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Speaker 3: urgency of moments don't matter to them. When you have

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Speaker 3: your hands on a football, you intercept it. When you

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Speaker 3: have your hands on one of the best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 3: this generation of quarterbacks in Patrick Mahomes, you sack him.

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Speaker 3: When you get into the red zone against a team

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Speaker 3: that's not elite like they used to be, you go

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Speaker 3: score touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You don't run.

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Speaker 3: QB draws to a thirty seven year old quarterback who

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Speaker 3: has no ability to make big plays with his legs.

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating because the talent is here, but it is

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Speaker 3: not nearly executing at a level to be competent against

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Speaker 3: good teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And Bob, you said it towards the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: They had opportunities in this game to get touchdowns, for

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Speaker 2: the defense, to get the offense really good field position

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Speaker 2: to potentially score a touchdown, and they just didn't make

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Speaker 2: enough big plays when they had the opportunity. And as

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Speaker 2: has been the case on many second and third and longs,

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Speaker 2: they gave up some plays and inopportunity times to allow

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs to score some of their points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you signed, you signed Paulson and Debo

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Speaker 4: because of his ten career interceptions. He drops an interception

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Speaker 1: Kansas City winds up scoring.

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Speaker 4: Oh karat Kay doesn't recover the backward throw, Mahomes knocks

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Speaker 4: it getting a pass interference, Like, you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: And the question is like, this is the receiving corps

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Speaker 4: good enough? Is it good enough? I don't know what

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Speaker 4: the answer to that question is. They took neighbors away.

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Speaker 4: Where's anybody else winning?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and all said he was watching the end of

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Speaker 4: And Ticky, you know you mentioned you know calling it.

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Speaker 4: Only they know did Russell Wilson call that play?

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Speaker 1: That's true?

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Speaker 4: Did he did he audiblize to or did he decide

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Speaker 4: were feeding scataboo, scataboo, scataboo. They ran like a run

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Speaker 4: So until you know, all I know is either way,

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Speaker 3: Look, Russell Wilson has a ton of experience. He's seen

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Speaker 1: Weekend in week out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe in the history of the game. It's not gonna

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make you think and force you to make

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson today was eighteen of thirty two or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And when you're a team, they're playing at the margins.

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Speaker 3: That's what the Giants are. They're playing at the margins

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Speaker 3: and not good enough to be good. They're not terrible,

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Speaker 3: but they're playing at the margins. You can't miss on opportunities.

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Speaker 3: And all they did today was miss on every opportunity

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Speaker 2: And Scataboy's six catches sixty one yards bob from the receivers,

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Speaker 1: A very quiet game from the wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: Well, look at how they look at what happened last

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Speaker 1: Hurts only through for one hundred and one yard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard, and aj Brown.

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Speaker 4: They have better receivers and better tight ends and they

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Speaker 1: Line was picked. But then Philly went down and scored.

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Speaker 4: The Giants did not look the Washington game, they didn't

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Speaker 1: You better make those plays.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on Giants Extra Point. Giants fall

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Speaker 2: to the Chiefs twenty two to nine. Were waiting Brian

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Speaker 2: Dable at the podium after this game, And guys, I

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Speaker 2: think the firstrating part of this is actually look at

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Speaker 2: and I realized numbers and numbers they don't mean everything.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs only had three hundred and six yards offense

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are not the dominant Chiefs that we've seen

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Speaker 3: to throw up forty points a game really against anybody.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can give some credit to the Giants

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Speaker 3: for doing the things that you have to to stay

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Speaker 1: Look elite right now. Maholmes had two backwards passes.

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Speaker 6: How about that great play call they had on the

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Speaker 1: That should have been a touch one, but Thornton just

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Speaker 3: But look he was under throwing a couple of the balls,

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Speaker 3: it go. That's a touchdown ball three years ago. But

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Speaker 3: it's underthrown from Pat Mahomes. So they're vulnerable, and that's

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Speaker 3: then ultimately make some plays to win it. That was

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Speaker 1: They need to in order to win.

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Speaker 3: It's early in the season, I get it, but it's

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Speaker 1: To your point.

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Speaker 1: They average thirty points a game.

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Speaker 4: Since the start of the twenty twenty three season, they're

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Speaker 4: got tonight. They kill you with paper cuts and they

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Speaker 4: more importantly, they have a defensive coordinator named Steve Spotnolo

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Speaker 4: be better in the red zone in order to win

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Speaker 4: these games against better teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of the red zone, obviously, the one

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Speaker 3: he comes on later in this game and he kicks

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Speaker 3: whatever he had to do at halftime, he got himself right.

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Speaker 1: But just seeing him out there frustrated you. It made

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Speaker 1: the management of some of these players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he goes through his normal routine. He

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, you don't You don't know if Wilson tries

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Speaker 4: At my point, I'm not going to absolve Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: The guys running a corner fade.

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Speaker 4: You have to put the ball out there where Elik

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Speaker 1: Totally so underthrown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if he comes back for it, he's committed

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I gotta tell you it was less about

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Speaker 7: Let's listen in there in the second half. But there's

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Speaker 7: Thought we did a good job in a kicking game

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Speaker 8: You know, we ran the ball much better.

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Speaker 7: Our passing game was was not good enough, particularly on

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Speaker 9: What did you see in the way that they were

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they played a fair amount of split safety,

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Speaker 7: last week, just didn't didn't get the job done this

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Speaker 5: Why do you think you couldn't get a leak department

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we gotta do a better job with that, no

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Speaker 10: What are you a tribute that taking game?

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Speaker 7: Probably a collection everything, Pat, probably a collection everything. Again,

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Speaker 7: they were playing a lot of split safety coverach they

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Speaker 7: played it last week. Could be just a little bit different,

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Speaker 7: but I'd say a collection of all that. We certainly

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Speaker 10: Plus with Andrew Thomas or did.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna give him twenty five plays, So that's

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Speaker 10: How would you describe Russell Wilson's game tonight?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just say overall, offensively, Connor was nothing, was

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Speaker 12: Brian, just the second time you've had to play a

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Speaker 6: Kicker, Yeah, I mean, is it getting untenable to have

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Speaker 7: Well, look that's why Jamie kicks in practice too. I

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Speaker 7: know they blocked that kick. We had a range for

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Speaker 8: But yeah, just literally.

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Speaker 7: We're getting ready to go out for the anthem and

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Speaker 7: then we had two kickers were one was gonna kick

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Speaker 8: So you gotta do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 10: The first series, it's safe to say you would go

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Speaker 8: Goal there with have Yeah, I know this is hart Again.

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Speaker 13: Have you guys spent so much time this off season

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Speaker 10: I mean, how do you describe that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not the goal certainly, So again it's it's

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Speaker 7: we gotta put a complete game together, all three phases, offense, defense,

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Speaker 7: special teams, coaching. We got we gotta do all that. Again,

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Speaker 7: I thought the defense responded respond in a positive manner,

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Speaker 7: you know, but you know, you only score once, not

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Speaker 10: The rhyme of reason.

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Speaker 14: When you put Jackson in and then you get down,

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Speaker 10: Pert time to put him, and you don't put him in,

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Speaker 10: you run Russ on his own RD. Just try to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say, you know, look, we discussed a

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Speaker 7: based on where we were on that particular play where

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Speaker 8: If we didn't get it when we didn't think we'd

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Speaker 7: But you know we had a we had his own

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Speaker 1: Those fans fans were good. Davis.

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Speaker 6: I was just were you thinking all about maybe getting

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say you know the plays we had him in,

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Speaker 15: The fans were calling for Jackson in the game, and

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Speaker 15: then when you put Russell back in, they were moving in.

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Speaker 15: What would you say to the fan base that it's

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Speaker 10: They are too after this.

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Speaker 7: Offense that's like this, Yeah, look, Jackson's progressing. Well, we'll

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Speaker 7: continue to work with him. You know, I got a

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Speaker 7: and that's what we'll continue to do. Look, i'd be

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Speaker 8: I understand that that's that's a nature of it. We've

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Speaker 13: I know that Russell's been through a lot, he's seen

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Speaker 13: But I mean when every time he steps back on

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Speaker 13: and how does he he's you have to say anything

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Speaker 16: No.

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Speaker 8: I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I didn't have a conversation about that, and I don't

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Speaker 7: think the coaches, the offensive coaches, you know, they're talking

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Speaker 8: They're looking at the you.

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Speaker 7: Know, the players that we just ran, they're going through

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Speaker 7: the adjustments, are talking about things that we should do

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Speaker 7: the next series. That's where our focus has to be

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Speaker 10: And do it. You start next week. Russell.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys have asked me about players after games.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to answer that.

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Speaker 9: Does not winning games, that like getting up to still

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Speaker 9: when can't when do we put or obviously you invested

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Speaker 10: When do we put him in?

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Speaker 7: Well, like I said, I got you know, we'll continue

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Speaker 7: to work with Jackson, continue.

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Speaker 1: To develop him.

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Speaker 8: He's done a nice job since he's been here.

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Speaker 7: And again, you know, we'll go back, we'll watch the tape,

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Speaker 1: The number two quarterback says two hands on the offense

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Speaker 14: Bad, Like, at what point is Rusty's performance dictators in

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Speaker 7: Yeah again, Dan, everybody's got to be better. It's not

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Speaker 7: where I canna put this on one person. Everybody has

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Speaker 10: You know there's a connection between West and scattered Pool.

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Speaker 7: Well, I heard some checkdowns. You know, there's a couple

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Speaker 7: Cam is a tough competitor.

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Speaker 8: Thought he ran hard.

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Speaker 7: Thought he did a good job in the passing game

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Speaker 8: He's a good young player.

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Speaker 1: I understand that.

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Speaker 10: It's just I understand it's good.

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Speaker 13: It's collective, it's the unit and everything, Brian. But if

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Speaker 11: You replace your running back, it's probably not going to

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Speaker 13: A quarterback has the ability to do that change. A

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Speaker 8: Yeah again, count Look, it's signed everybody.

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Speaker 7: It takes eleven people to go out there and execute

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Speaker 1: Can you guys had a good plan for what they

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Speaker 8: We didn't score hardly any points.

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Speaker 7: So there's a lot of discussions on the sideline trying

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Speaker 8: Yards in that area. A third down just you know,

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Speaker 7: So when you want attend, it's a combination of a

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Speaker 10: Talk to you about what they saw. I didn't see

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Speaker 17: If Tree, if Tracy, obviously I'm knowing what his health is,

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Speaker 17: if he can or can go next week. How competent

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Speaker 17: do you fill in scattery based on what he did tonight?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, again, we'll see where Tracy's at. I have confidence

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Speaker 7: in scat though.

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Speaker 10: Okay, that's sash problem.

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Speaker 18: Way fresh.

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Speaker 2: That Brian Dable press conference brought to you by Hackensack

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Speaker 2: and maridin health, keep getting better, quick time out. We'll

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Speaker 2: come right back with more Giants fall to the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: in this game twenty two to nine. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more Giants extra Point on the Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 5: Right after this, you are listening to Giants extra Point

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Speaker 5: on the Wfan Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 2: John Schmelck, Bob Pop, Pat Tiki Barber with you Giants

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Speaker 2: again falling their home opener to the Chiefs on Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night Football twenty two to nine. Bob, we heard Brian

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Speaker 2: Able talk a lot about the lack of third down

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Speaker 2: conversions in this game. The Giants just one of ten.

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Speaker 2: They had one convert version that was on a third

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Speaker 2: and eight in the first half. What do you think

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Speaker 2: about the job they did on a third down in

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Speaker 2: this game?

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Speaker 4: Well, John, I mean, look, the Giants of the last

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Speaker 4: couple of years have been perminally in third and longs right,

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Speaker 4: nine plus and whatever. They're one for ten and nine

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Speaker 4: plus this year. Well, they only had two today. They

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Speaker 4: were one for seven on third downs between five and

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Speaker 4: eight yards, like, they missed a third and seven, a

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Speaker 4: third and five, a third and eight, they hit a

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Speaker 4: third and eight, they missed the third and six, a

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Speaker 4: third and five, and third and six, Like there's some

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Speaker 4: something fundamentally wrong because those are you know, that's not

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Speaker 4: in today's NFL, that's not considered outrageous. And they had

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Speaker 4: one third down attempt in this entire game inside of

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Speaker 4: four yards and they failed on a third and four.

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Speaker 4: Kansas City came into the game thirty five percent on

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Speaker 4: third downs. Well you know why they were over fifty

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Speaker 4: percent of their third down in this game. They're fifteen

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Speaker 4: of them. Eleven of them or nine of them happened

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Speaker 4: inside of six yards, and they were five of seven

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Speaker 4: between two and four yards, one for one on third

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Speaker 4: and one, and they hit a third and six Like this.

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Speaker 4: First of all, TI get you ran the ball for

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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty yards. That should be a good recipe.

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Speaker 4: But the passing game, whether the quarterbacks not, didn't see

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Speaker 4: things against this defense. Clearly guys were not uncovering because

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Speaker 4: there were plays when he did drop back, nobody's open,

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Speaker 4: nobody's there. They put McDuffie basically on neighbors and they

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Speaker 4: had a safety over the top. You know, when they

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Speaker 4: drafted Theo Johnson, we heard about, oh he could be

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Speaker 4: a dynamic playmaker within this offense. He right now, he

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Speaker 4: had one catch for ten yards, But where is he winning?

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Speaker 1: Because their guy Gray? Forget about Kelsey.

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Speaker 4: Kelsey had a couple of catches, including you know, one

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Speaker 4: on a second and eight that went for first down

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Speaker 4: or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But Gray got open. Like, where's the tight end here

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Speaker 1: in these third and manners? Right?

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Speaker 3: And if it's not the tight end, it's Wandell Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Wando Robinson had one catch in this game, four targets

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Speaker 3: and most of those came late. And we saw it

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Speaker 3: a week ago and really we've seen it for the

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Speaker 3: entirety of last year. Different quarterback, kind of a different

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Speaker 3: play calling type system because Dave was calling the plays.

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Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson is your reliable third down target. And the difference,

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Speaker 3: and you mentioned it, Bob is first and second down.

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Speaker 3: It's creating those third and manageables. So even if you

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Speaker 3: do only get three out of the four yards, maybe

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Speaker 3: you can think about going for it. You can, you

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Speaker 3: can be aggressive in different ways, but when you're fourth

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Speaker 3: and long, there's no chance that you're picking that up,

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Speaker 3: especially with how ineffective Russell felt today throwing the football. Again,

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Speaker 3: you talk about the fifty six percent completion percent into

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Speaker 3: two turnovers, which are really the difference in this game

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Speaker 3: when you think about it, because from a yarded standpoint

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Speaker 3: total yarded standpoint, the Giants had twenty five less yards

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Speaker 3: than the Kansas City Chiefs. It's not like they blew

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Speaker 3: the you know, you know, turn the lights off by

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Speaker 3: playing great, great football. They only ran a five or

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Speaker 3: six more plays than the Giants did. It was the

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Speaker 3: turnovers and the lack of executing in the red zone

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Speaker 3: that the Kansas City Chiefs took advantage of and the

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Speaker 3: Giants could not.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you got to throw in you know,

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Speaker 4: the Giants were one for four fourthouns, right, only one

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Speaker 4: of those was long, right, they hit they hit a

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Speaker 4: fourth and five, they missed a fourth and six, and

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Speaker 4: they missed a fourth and three.

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Speaker 1: Again, those are gettable. You're not talking.

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Speaker 4: About, Oh they had a hit of the fourth and

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Speaker 4: ten or fourth and eleven and keep it.

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Speaker 1: Those are gettable. And you know it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: a mess.

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Speaker 2: And I want to put this out too, bout it's

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Speaker 2: our for indrupting. It's not like there was a ton

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Speaker 2: of pass pressure in this game either. This wasn't a

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Speaker 2: situation where Russell Wilson was running for his life on

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Speaker 2: a lot of these plays either.

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Speaker 4: However, though you can see that one the interior, which

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Speaker 4: is the weakness of this giant offensive line. Okay, Andrew

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Speaker 4: Thomas played lights out. Illumin Or is a really good

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Speaker 4: player who you can win with as a starting right tackle.

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Speaker 4: And when Bow comes in the game, Bow is a

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Speaker 4: developing player, but he's he looks like he's going to

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Speaker 4: be a real player.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go downstairs. Russell Wilson is at the podium.

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Speaker 11: And of the scrambles and plays that we had to make.

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Speaker 11: You know, he's he's got a great demeanor to him.

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Speaker 11: I bet he did a really good job in the touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: he did a good job just getting out. Think the

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Speaker 11: line did a great job. You know, one block on

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Speaker 11: that one and him getting in an end zone was

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Speaker 11: a good play.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's how frustrating is it now that there's two

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Speaker 17: games you guys have not been able to get a

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Speaker 17: touchdown through the air.

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Speaker 10: Just kind of get this offense going a.

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Speaker 11: Little bit Yeah, I think it was obviously disappointing. You

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Speaker 11: know that we had, you know, as a close game.

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Speaker 10: It was a battle all the way.

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Speaker 11: You know, it was tight game, and I think that

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Speaker 11: you know, we just needed one or two more plays,

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Speaker 11: you know obviously, you know I I wanna play better,

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Speaker 11: you know for us and uh give us a better

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Speaker 11: chance to win. You know, the the throw down to

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Speaker 11: them down the middle to Wandelle, you know, took a

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Speaker 11: shot to him. They made a good play. And then

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Speaker 11: you know, right before the half, I was trying to

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Speaker 11: give one on one to to Malik and they they

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Speaker 11: made a good play on it. So you know, just

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Speaker 11: try to give them a chance at it, and you

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Speaker 11: know they did a good job.

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Speaker 9: What was it about their scheme that just made it

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Speaker 9: so much challenging compared to last week cause they played

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Speaker 9: some similar uh safeties, you know the way that they

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Speaker 9: they they splayed.

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Speaker 1: They're a good football team.

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Speaker 11: You know, they got their talented, they their coach well

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Speaker 11: and everything else. But you know, I think we've if

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Speaker 11: we just needed we just needed one big touchdown in

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Speaker 11: that moment. You know, somewhere in there, you know, we're

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Speaker 11: hoping that we could get that right before half and

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Speaker 11: they made a good play.

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Speaker 15: Can you take us for.

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Speaker 12: That final fourth down uh in complete pass and the

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Speaker 12: end zone end of the games.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I was trying to step up and get it

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Speaker 11: to uh THEO and UH just did didn't really get

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Speaker 11: to step into my throat the way I wanted it to,

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Speaker 11: try to just give him a chance, and then the

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Speaker 11: ball just kind of sailed on me. Just trying to

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Speaker 11: get it to them. But that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 19: What's called you're had in your hearing the crowd champ

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Speaker 19: you want dart and just getting food as he's.

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Speaker 11: Coming alse to you. Yeah, I think I think there's

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Speaker 11: there's highs and lows. There's always you know, tough moments.

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Speaker 11: There's you know, you gotta have thick skin, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean, Like you gotta be able to you

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Speaker 11: know who you are, know the player that you are,

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Speaker 11: know what you're capable of. I I obviously you know,

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Speaker 11: you know, been able to show show that throughout my

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Speaker 11: career and obviously l you know last week and everything

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Speaker 11: else too, what we're capable of as an offense. I

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Speaker 11: think that you know, they they made a couple more

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Speaker 11: plays than us today. Like I said, it was a

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Speaker 11: a nine to six game. You know, for the most

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Speaker 11: of the part of the game pretty tight, and we

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Speaker 11: needed you know, one or two big plays and unfortunately

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Speaker 11: didn't come our way.

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Speaker 5: How confident are you that you can kind of get

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Speaker 5: back to what you guys showed a little bit last

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Speaker 5: week and established that as the consistent thing made you everything.

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Speaker 11: I'm confident in in us. I'm comforting myself, confident in

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Speaker 11: the guys we have, confident the players that we have,

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Speaker 11: the coaching staff and just all that.

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Speaker 20: You know.

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Speaker 11: I think that big part of it is just it

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Speaker 11: was a tough game. You know, it was a battle

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Speaker 11: back and forth, you know, and they made you know,

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Speaker 11: a couple more plays than we did.

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Speaker 9: Is your kicker like so quick, you know, so early

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Speaker 9: in the game, like the last second? There is it

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Speaker 9: a just the way that you figure out you're gonna

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Speaker 9: go downfield on things knowing that you're somewhat limited in

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Speaker 9: a field goal.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's tricky, you know, especially in a

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Speaker 11: tight game. You know, the scores nine to six, you know,

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Speaker 11: you lose your football kicker early in the game. Uh,

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Speaker 11: that was tough, you know, just in the sense of

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Speaker 11: we know that we're gonna have to go forward a

635
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Speaker 11: lot on four downs and stuff like that. You know,

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Speaker 11: those circumstances aren't aren't favorable, but you know, we gotta

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Speaker 11: be able to respond, and we still had a chance

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Speaker 11: to win it.

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Speaker 17: How frustrating is that this offense just hasn't been able

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Speaker 17: to be that consistent force you want to be. Obviously

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Speaker 17: the Dallas game is one, but two games now hasn't

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Speaker 17: been what you wanted. How frustrating is it that it's

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Speaker 17: not been a consistent offense.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think there's you know, it's a National Football League.

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Speaker 11: You know, you look across the league. There's tight games,

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Speaker 11: there's close games. There's We've been in all all the

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Speaker 11: games that we've played, you know, went with the chance,

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Speaker 11: and I think that's that's uh what you want, and

649
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Speaker 11: obviously what we really want is to be able to

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Speaker 11: win them. And uh, you know last week we had

651
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Speaker 11: a chance to win it. You know, twice we didn't.

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Speaker 11: We didn't get to do that. You know, this week,

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Speaker 11: we felt like the game was tight and close, you

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Speaker 11: know throughout the game, and like I said, they made

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Speaker 11: you know, one or two more plays more than us.

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Speaker 9: You've been in the league for for many years. You've

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Speaker 9: seen a lot of situations. Do you get a sense

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Speaker 9: that it it takes a few things for teams just

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Speaker 9: to gel and just get on the run, you know,

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Speaker 9: given the way you guys have started off so slow

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Speaker 9: right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think we're We've played three really

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Speaker 11: good football teams, obviously the Commander's Dallas and and and

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Speaker 11: these guys. You know, I think that it was they've

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Speaker 11: all been tight games. You know, what we were able

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Speaker 11: to do last week and scoring points and all that stuff,

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Speaker 11: and you know, being aggressive, and then this this week,

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Speaker 11: and we try to be aggressive. I try to you know,

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Speaker 11: take a couple of shots on the field, you know,

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Speaker 11: and you know, try to make a you know, make

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Speaker 11: a player there. And they they made, like I said,

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Speaker 11: one or two more. I think those those plays happened,

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Speaker 11: and in the game is a completely different game, you know,

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Speaker 11: so I think they did. Just you gotta keep our

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Speaker 11: heads up to get back to work, focus on you know,

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Speaker 11: just like you said, just trying to be consistent throughout.

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Speaker 11: You know, throughout the game. We know it's gonna be

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Speaker 11: a tough battle. We didn't think it was gonna be

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Speaker 11: easy game, you know, anything like that. We knew it

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Speaker 11: was gonna be, you know, a battle back and forth.

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Speaker 11: And I thought our defense played really well. They fought

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Speaker 11: their butts off all day. Our special teams did too.

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Speaker 11: You know, I was probably of how we ran the ball,

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Speaker 11: you know, in certain moments too. You know, I thought Scott,

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Speaker 11: like I said, had a great game and how he battled.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's tough when you see guy like Tracy,

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Speaker 11: you know when your start running backs go down the

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Speaker 11: shoulder on the side, and he had a good run,

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Speaker 11: a couple good runs and a couple of good plays.

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Speaker 11: So you know, we I think that was that was

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Speaker 11: tough for us. But uh, I thought we continued to

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Speaker 11: battle throughout russ.

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Speaker 21: I apologize if this was asked uh earlier, but what

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Speaker 21: were they doing?

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Speaker 10: It made it so difficult for you to get the

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Speaker 10: ball to a Moleave thy?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they They just did a good job

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Speaker 11: covering for the most part through to o the day.

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Speaker 11: You know, they have a good pass for us. They

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Speaker 11: do good things. They you know, they they did a

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Speaker 11: good job. Give him credit.

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Speaker 19: Take a p Martin, what do you what are your

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Speaker 19: conversations like with the league postgameer or do you then

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Speaker 19: during game as that's happening you can't. So what are

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Speaker 19: your conversations like with league the sidelines postgame when you

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Speaker 19: can't get him the ball in those situations.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, obviously, you know, we always want to try to

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Speaker 11: find ways to get him the football, you know, the

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Speaker 11: game kind of you know, like I said, I try

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Speaker 11: to take a shot, you know, in the red zone.

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Speaker 11: They made a play, so I tried to make a

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Speaker 11: shot to him. You know, they made a good play.

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Speaker 11: God made a great catch on it, you know. And

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Speaker 11: so I think that there's there's moments in the game

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Speaker 11: that we're trying to find him, you know, whatever it

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Speaker 11: may be. You know, he's a tremendous football player. We

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Speaker 11: we obviously we love what he's capable of, what we're

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Speaker 11: trying to do, and uh, we got a lot of

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Speaker 11: guys that can do a lot of good things.

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Speaker 17: Are different if Tracy for some reason, if on his status,

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Speaker 17: if you can't go next week, how confident are you

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Speaker 17: guys in Scotty were based on how well we played today?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Scott has done done a great job

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Speaker 11: of just picking up the offense. I think Motor's done

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Speaker 11: a really good job you know, understanding you know what

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Speaker 11: to do and you know how talented he is too.

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Speaker 11: You know, obviously Tracy's as tough as nail and he's

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Speaker 11: gonna do everything he can to get back. I'm not

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Speaker 11: sure there's circumstances or anything like that, but you know,

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Speaker 11: he's a he's a great football player, and obviously if

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Speaker 11: he's if you can go, he's gonna go. If you can't,

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Speaker 11: you know, I know he's he's gonna do everything you

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Speaker 11: can to get back as soon as possible. Thank you, guys,

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Speaker 11: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's Russell Wilson at the podium.

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Speaker 2: more quick time out. We'll come back talk about Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson had to say. Here for more players in the

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Speaker 2: locker room and more breakdown of the giants twenty two

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Speaker 2: to nine defeat at the hand of the Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: their home opening here on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: They fall to zero and three. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Here's the game four and five from the Kansas City thirty.

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Speaker 4: Let's see if fact brink steet to showing pressure.

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Speaker 1: Back out of it. Four man rush Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Zipson on the scene, caught by Robinson and he's tackled

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Speaker 4: at the four.

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest plays through the air for the

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Speaker 2: Giants in this game. Giants just with two plays of

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Speaker 2: twenty plus yards, a big difference compared to last week

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Speaker 2: when they had eight plays of twenty or more yards.

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Speaker 2: And big plays just be in terms of yard and

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Speaker 2: not in terms of impact on the game, obviously, just

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Speaker 2: in terms of yard did you gained there? But it

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Speaker 2: was funny, Bob you mentioned on that play. I wonder

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Speaker 2: if the Chiefs are gonna bring heat well. Next Gen

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Speaker 2: Stats that has the game in their little summary up.

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Speaker 2: According to next Gen SATs, Chiefs blitzed just six times

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Speaker 2: in this game. Sixteen percent of the Giants pass plays

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Speaker 2: in the Chiefs S blitz just six times, compared to

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Speaker 2: sixty four percent last week and forty eight percent, which

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Speaker 2: is by the way, their percentage last season too. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's been kind of consistent over a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Talk about this in the pregame. You probably got a

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Speaker 3: lot of run dogs, run blitzes against the Philadelphi Eagles

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Speaker 3: because they don't throw the ball as frequently or really

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Speaker 3: effectively this season as they have in previous years. So

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Speaker 3: you're just trying to contain Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 3: and that run game against the Giants, you could feel

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Speaker 3: that it would probably be different because of how much

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Speaker 3: of a threat in League Neighbors is. And it's what

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Speaker 3: you saw Bob said it earlier. You got a lot

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Speaker 3: of good coverage. It was basically covered two man, but

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Speaker 3: then you'd see a cloud on top. So it was

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Speaker 3: a it was a combination of a man in zone

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Speaker 3: that the Chiefs ran on the League Neighbors and he

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Speaker 3: had no room to operate, and even when balls were

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Speaker 3: headed his way, it was almost as if he knew

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Speaker 3: he didn't have a chance to get to the balls.

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Speaker 3: And so you didn't see these high, you know, highlight

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Speaker 3: contested catches from the League Neighbors because the Chiefs did

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Speaker 3: such a good job of taking him away from Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson's line of sight, essentially.

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Speaker 4: Thinking, you know, above the x's and League Neighbors made

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Speaker 4: a couple of unbelievable plays last week. Yes, on the interception,

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's going to give you the stock can answer,

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Speaker 4: hey wanted to give Milik a chance. The second one,

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Speaker 4: second one, the first one Wandell Robinson.

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Speaker 1: I think they.

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Speaker 4: I think Spags baited him with the coverage and he

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Speaker 4: I think he thought he had Wandell on an over

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Speaker 4: route and had no idea that that safety was anywhere

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Speaker 4: in the vicinity. But you made a really good point

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Speaker 4: because you actually played in the NFL at a pro

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Speaker 4: bowl level, and you understand stuff that we just kind

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Speaker 4: of guess at or maybe not understand.

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Speaker 1: But that's that interception in the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Explain to the listener out there, from your knowledge, what

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Speaker 4: really happened on that play. Because Russell Wilson's telling everybody

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Speaker 4: I wanted to give Alak a chance.

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Speaker 3: Malik had no chance on that He actually had chance

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Speaker 3: on the play, but how the ball was thrown, and

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Speaker 3: win more importantly it was thrown, he had no chance.

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Speaker 3: So Dave's will tell you if Malik Neighbors is in

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Speaker 3: a manned look, it doesn't have to be man it

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Speaker 3: can it could be covered through.

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Speaker 1: But he has a man look. That's single cover.

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Speaker 3: That guy has to bail and cover the deep third,

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Speaker 3: or he's covering the league neighbors and man coverage. It's

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Speaker 3: a man look. You give him the chance to make

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Speaker 3: that play. And I think Russell Wilson knew he wanted

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Speaker 3: to throw it, but he didn't want to throw it

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Speaker 3: so because and so he waited. As a result, by

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Speaker 3: the time that ball got up and out and down

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Speaker 3: the field, mylik Neighbors had run out of real estate.

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Speaker 3: He was basically stopped, so all his momentum was gone.

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Speaker 3: And in the cornerback is already at the ballpoint, and

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Speaker 3: so it was an easy interception for him. If you

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Speaker 3: throw that ball eight to ten steps into that route

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Speaker 3: by mylie Neighbors was basically it.

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Speaker 1: Was just a go route.

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Speaker 3: If you throw that ball eight to ten steps into

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Speaker 3: that route, elite neighbors can now make a play on

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 1: Because the defenders trying to catch up the neighbors had separation.

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Speaker 3: Eventually, Neighbors is gonna get on top of that guy.

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Speaker 3: So as soon as he you have to throw it

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Speaker 3: before he's on top of the guy, so that he

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Speaker 3: can run out in front. Just like we saw against

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Speaker 3: Dallas and the double coverage right that was the same

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Speaker 3: type of defense that the Chiefs were playing man with

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Speaker 3: a guy on top. That last touchdown that Elite Neighbors

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Speaker 3: scored a twenty five seconds against the Cowboys, that had

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Speaker 3: no business being completed, but it was released on time,

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Speaker 3: so when Elite Neighbors could make a play on the

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Speaker 3: ball that last interception, Bob, he waited too long.

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to throw it. He knew he needed to,

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Speaker 1: He just didn't want.

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Speaker 4: To because Mileague was already drifting out of the back

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Speaker 4: of the end zone. There was so you know, he

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Speaker 4: didn't have a chance. So I Russ played bad today.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's call it like it is.

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Speaker 3: He played bad those the last couple of series, Bob,

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you what Russ was thinking. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the one obviously got called for intentional grounding when he

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Speaker 3: threw it out of the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: THEO Johnson is basically posting up like a center underneath

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Speaker 3: the basket.

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Speaker 1: Give me the ball, Give me the ball. Akive me

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Speaker 1: the ball, Feed me the ball.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to catch this in front of this smaller

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Speaker 3: dB who's behind me. He throws it into the stands,

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Speaker 3: gets it, gets it, gets a penalty. Obviously, he gets

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Speaker 3: backed up five yards, lost it down, Lost it down,

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter because he's gonna lose it down anyways. The

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Speaker 3: next three plays a QB draw and two other not

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Speaker 3: even close to anybody passes. So I get that Russ

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Speaker 3: is trying to be safe. He doesn't want to throw

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Speaker 3: a third interception on this game. But just like a

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Speaker 3: two point conversion, the ball has to go to somebody, right,

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Speaker 3: you can't. You can't throw it away, And so I

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Speaker 3: can see why, because it's just frustrating. At that point,

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Speaker 3: you still have a chance, potentially if you score a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: you probably got to kick it onside and do whatever

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Speaker 3: you gotta do, but you still had a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a chance. That series killed any chance the Giants

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Speaker 3: had at winning this game.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm listening to this press conference and I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't know who all. I can't identify all

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Speaker 4: the voices of the people asking these questions, But like.

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Speaker 1: What kind of questions are these? What do you think

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Speaker 1: the difference was?

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Speaker 4: You know Dallas had the two safety law, and what

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Speaker 4: was difference between last week and they see?

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Speaker 1: Have you watched Dallas play defense.

881
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: Right did you watch did you see or hear about

882
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: their game today? I mean Williams destroyed them.

883
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: MALIEK.

884
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: Cooker and Donovan Wilson just have people run by them

885
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 4: at every moment.

886
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: So is Trayvon Diggson.

887
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 4: Contract Kret mcduffey is way better than anybody. Nick Bolton

888
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: starts over Sandberg at middle Linebackery Carl Loftis and Leo

889
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: Chanall and Drew Trankwell and Chris Jones are bigger than

890
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 4: anybody that Dallas has up front. Oh and by the way,

891
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: Matt Eberflus is their coordinator and the great Steve Spagnole

892
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: is the coordinator of the Chiefs.

893
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: What did they do differently?

894
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 6: They are better players and better coaches that matter. Like

895
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: there's like this big miss.

896
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: This big Why was it so much harder? Well, because

897
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: you were playing against the better And at the end

898
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: of the day, they they did not score against a

899
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 4: team that made it to the NFC Championship Game last year,

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00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: and they did not score against a team that lost

901
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, right, that has been to three

902
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: straight Super Bowls, And they shredded the team that has

903
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: a bad defensive coordinator and horrible defensive personnel and gave

904
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Speaker 4: away Michael Parsons.

905
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Speaker 1: That's why, Yes, that's the difference. It's easy.

906
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're trying to catch Daves into

907
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: saying something that's gonna get them more ammunition. And let's

908
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: face it, question, I've said this so many times about Daves,

909
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: and I love the dude. He's just he's just a

910
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: good guy. And I know's he's probably on a lot

911
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: of everybody's hot seat right now, but he is Bill

912
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: Belichick with a smile. He is not telling you, Jack,

913
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: And so I get what that what they're trying to do,

914
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: it's not gonna it's not gonna happen, he will, So

915
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: you might as well ask something meaningful.

916
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: So you know, that's why last week just still I'm

917
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 4: still not over it last week because you know what

918
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: you're you're punching up in your weight class in this

919
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: game again. Eight super Bowls, super Bowl winning head coach,

920
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: super Bowl defensive coordinator. One of the rings here is

921
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: because of partially because of SPACs and Washington good team

922
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 4: opening day, they made it to the conference. Last week's

923
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: the one you had to get just to kind of stabilized.

924
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: Thing, right, get that first win of the season.

925
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, just stabilized things and you score thirty seven points

926
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: with the game.

927
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: With the game, give me, I'm just it's frustrated.

928
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Giants football is brought to you locally by Ford one

929
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: performance and capability of every turn. Get behind the wheel

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Speaker 2: of the new Ford truck or rest have you Ford

931
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Speaker 2: official Truck and SUV of the New York Giants.

932
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Bob one more segment. Yeah, I gotta I gotta drive,

933
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: So I'm good.

934
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 6: All right, Bob sticking. We'll be back with more Giants faults.

935
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 6: Waiting to hear from Chiefs. I saw him in the

936
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Speaker 6: stands earlier.

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Speaker 1: Don't call out the calls.

938
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna call it, Bob, but we're all

939
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: gonna take your calls later in the post game as well.

940
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Speaker 1: Again, Giants fall to the Chiefs twenty two to nine.

941
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more.

942
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Speaker 21: Right.

943
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Speaker 5: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN

944
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: Giants Radio Network.

945
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,600
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946
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 23: on the Fan WFAN and Wfan FM, New York.

947
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 4: Film first and ten play Faked Scataboo. Wilson back throws

948
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Speaker 4: it in the flat for Skataboo, who's got it at

949
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: the thirty to the thirty five, lowers his shoulder and

950
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: finally gets tackled at the forty one yard line.

951
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Speaker 2: And that was one of the plays in the Giants

952
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: scoring drive of the game, brought to you by Citizens.

953
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven

954
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation to support

955
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: their work tackling important community issues, improving over health, and

956
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: empowering our youth. Back here on Giants Extra point. Giants

957
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Speaker 2: fall to the Kansas City Chiefs twenty two to nine.

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Speaker 2: John Schmilk, Tikey, Barbara, Bob Poppa with you dex to

959
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: Laura Us address the media after the game. One of

960
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: the Giants defensive leaders in Captain. Let's hear what he

961
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: had to say after the twenty two to nine defeat.

962
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 24: We are where we're supposed to be right now, you

963
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 24: know is obviously it hurts. You don't want to lose,

964
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 24: but you know he's just got to keep fighting. You

965
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 24: can't dwell on it. We can hurt tonight, but you

966
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 24: know tomorrow when we go watch it. Tuesday, we flush it. Wednesday,

967
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 24: we prepare for whoever we got next?

968
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 11: What gives you belief that this year is different than

969
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 11: last year?

970
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 21: Like if you know we're talking about I think spiring

971
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 21: like it did last year.

972
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 24: We've got a lot of vets and guys that that

973
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 24: that understand that you can't draw the stuff like this,

974
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 24: but we just gotta come, gotta come ready next.

975
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 6: Week next to we see mahomes on film and on

976
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 6: TV about how slippery he can be, especially on third

977
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: down when you're actually in the game trying to get

978
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 6: your hands on him. What is it, like, how frustrating

979
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 6: is it when he does get out?

980
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, it ain't It ain't cool.

981
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

982
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 21: It just we gotta wrap 'em up. We gotta put

983
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 21: our bodies on 'em. Uh.

984
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 24: But we didn't do that and he'd make plays out

985
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 24: of it.

986
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: Is there a different strategy to how you're playing this

987
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: year that today was a little bit like most like

988
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: forty percent of snaps?

989
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: Is there is there a different strategy of how you're

990
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: being used?

991
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 21: I don't know. I play when I play, I'm in

992
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 21: when I'm in. I don't know. Would you like to

993
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 21: be a more I feel like I'm in a lot.

994
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 21: I don't know.

995
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 24: I don't I don't know where y'all get these numbers from,

996
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 24: but I feel like I'm I'm playing a lot of ball.

997
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 6: I would demoralizing. Was it dexta to give up that

998
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 6: field goal right before the half? It was six six,

999
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: they get the penalty, they get the field goal. Now

1000
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 6: you guys are down at halftime.

1001
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: Was was that an impactful thing?

1002
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 21: Nah mm mm? I think we did. We did good.

1003
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 24: We we before that, we had a resilance stop. They

1004
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 24: just they just made the field goal at that point.

1005
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 24: I don't think that anybody was demoralized or thought heav

1006
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 24: of that. It was just, you know, it had had

1007
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 24: another second half to play.

1008
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 6: It was sixteen to nine then early in the fourth,

1009
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 6: so down by a score, they gonna wanna touchdown. Drive

1010
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 6: That one was was the real backbreaker. I think, what

1011
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 6: on that drive bothers you the most.

1012
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 24: You know, we had him that to write a few times,

1013
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 24: and they he made some great passes and they made

1014
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 24: some great catches.

1015
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 21: I mean, it's part of the game. Like you know,

1016
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 21: we on 'em. We were tight.

1017
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 24: You know, I got a hit, good hit one time

1018
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 24: and made it good, a good catch. Just how the

1019
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 24: game go. Man, Like you know you would wanna come

1020
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 24: up with those fifty fifties, but they they got 'em.

1021
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 10: Thank you. Next, that's of course defensive white.

1022
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: And then you have a guy that so many nice

1023
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: he really got him.

1024
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 9: I think he just keep he keeps escaping his legs.

1025
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's frustrating, but that's his game. We we we

1026
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 24: practiced for it all week. Jackson did a great job

1027
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 24: immulating it this week. You know, he he just was

1028
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 24: getting away.

1029
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 21: Uh. It made plays, that's that's that's just what he does.

1030
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 7: You got a lot of pressure to you know, correlate

1031
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 7: to a lot of sacks with that.

1032
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: Is that just is there anything you guys could have

1033
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: done differentlys or just like that's when he kind of

1034
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: does his skill set or do you look at it

1035
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: and say, we could've you.

1036
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 24: Know, I mean I already he rushed. Well he just

1037
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 24: he just escaped. Yeah, he just escaped. I mean you can't,

1038
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 24: you can't. I don't think he rushed bad. I don't

1039
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 24: think you wanna rush him any other way. He just

1040
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 24: backed up, stepped up. He just you know, didn't get

1041
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 24: touched much. I don't know, that's what it is.

1042
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 10: I know you're run the other side of the ball.

1043
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 8: But you're a lead around this them.

1044
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: Does it bother you when people are chanting for Jackson already?

1045
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 10: You know if get us as you're.

1046
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 24: Starting, I mean, I don't I don't know if I

1047
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 24: heard that chant necessarily. I heard a lot of other

1048
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 24: stuff that I'm not a fan of, and that don't

1049
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 24: help for real, But.

1050
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 21: People due to their opinions, man, and I think we're

1051
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 21: close in here.

1052
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 24: I think we just gotta, you know, make the plays,

1053
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 24: the big the plays when we need 'em, the critical plays,

1054
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 24: and we we haven't done that.

1055
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 21: Yeah, when we do that, it is it. Take off.

1056
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: You got you got the charges coming in three and out.

1057
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 25: I mean, you're looking ahead at that game.

1058
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Tell me how you're gonna stop, you know, stop them

1059
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: and stop.

1060
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 24: You don't get right, I'm gonna watch tape and don't

1061
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 24: figure out how to attack 'em.

1062
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1063
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 21: I didn't. I'm not looking forward to them right now.

1064
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 24: I'm looking I'm duelling on this and told you Monday,

1065
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 24: we're gonna watch take Tuesday, I'm relaxed watching the tape.

1066
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 24: Two Wednesday, that's when we're gonna prepare for them.

1067
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 10: And you guys are.

1068
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: Got this team, This locker room is still together?

1069
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 25: Do you guys, I know it's a tough loss today,

1070
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 25: but do you guys still feel that this locker room

1071
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 25: is still.

1072
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I think so.

1073
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 10: I think so.

1074
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: That's next launce after the game. A lot of fans

1075
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: don't realize this.

1076
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: I learned this very early in my career doing the

1077
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: pre and post game with the Giants.

1078
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: Before I did the games, there were a lot of

1079
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: guys in lockerhom I was shocked.

1080
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: I had no idea who the team was necessarily playing

1081
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 4: the next week, yeah, or maybe in two weeks.

1082
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1083
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: I don't think Dexter had a clue the Giants were

1084
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 4: playing the Chargers until that guy.

1085
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: Now we do that as fans and as media, and

1086
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: because you've already gone through the schedule, I'm talking about

1087
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: the listener now and looked at every single game and

1088
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: what we're gonna what they're gonna do in November, and

1089
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: what they're gonna do in December, and is this game

1090
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: gonna be meaningful? As a player, the only thing you

1091
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: can focus on, only you. I'm to focus on is

1092
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: who's right in front of you and who you're about

1093
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: to play. And then you wait for your coaching staff

1094
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: to give you all of the intel and detail that

1095
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna need to get yourself ready for the next week,

1096
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: and until that happens, you're not. I mean, maybe a

1097
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: quarterback is, maybe Russell Wilson is looking ahead watching tape

1098
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: on the Chargers defense, But most of these other guys

1099
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: are just simply dialed into what's happening this particular Sunday

1100
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: and that's it.

1101
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're right. I'm gonna throw a couple of

1102
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: numbers at you, guys. I just want you to react

1103
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: to them. There was a question about Texter Lawrence's playtime.

1104
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: He played sixty four percent of the snaps for a

1105
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: big defensive tackle. That is not a particularly low percentage.

1106
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: That's it's it's a little below average, but it's right line.

1107
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: We've also missed all of training camp, and so he's

1108
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: working his way back into it, back into it.

1109
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: That number I wouldn't make a big deal of. I

1110
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: do want to talk about the pressure statistics. Both PFF

1111
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: has the preliminary numbers. Next Gen Stats have their preliminary numbers.

1112
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: They both have the Giants at a twenty nine percent

1113
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: pressure rate in this game. They also have and this

1114
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: is the other number, of Thriati because we talked coming

1115
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: into this game, Tikiyo Mahomes was getting the ball out quick,

1116
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: faster than he ever has two point four to seven

1117
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: second average, I think time to throw. He was at

1118
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: two point nine to three today. It was much longer

1119
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: and at twenty nine percent pressure rate. It was in

1120
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Speaker 2: the lower third of the league this week. I'm not

1121
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: sure we got as dominant a performance out of this

1122
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: past russ as you would have hoped, especially considering the

1123
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: Chiefs have had some issues on the offensive line this

1124
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: year with a guy's changing position, a left guard, second

1125
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: year rookie left tack.

1126
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Speaker 3: It's funny because the eye tests I would have said

1127
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: it was much greater than that. I felt like Pat

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00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: Mahomes was maybe not moving off of his spot, but

1129
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: there were people around his body, around his knees, around

1130
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: his legs, and sometimes forcing him to move out of

1131
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: the pocket. So I'm surprised that that number is that low.

1132
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: But the impact is undeniable, I meaning the lack of

1133
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: pressure impact. I can't dispute that because it didn't feel

1134
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: like Pat Mahomes was ever fully flustered with one sack

1135
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: on the day, just that Brian Burns a sack. He

1136
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: kind of always is able to escape and do what

1137
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: he needs to and wants to. Even if it feels

1138
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: like he's he's under pressure, he's not unless you're hitting him.

1139
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Giants had seven official quarterback hits.

1140
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: That's including the two sacks, so five hits in addition

1141
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: to the two sacks.

1142
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. These numbers come out

1143
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: of thin air. Like I mean, it's subjective. It's very stick.

1144
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: It is subject and you got people who were getting

1145
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: paid fifty dollars a game to look at the game

1146
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: and then make these come up with some of these numbs.

1147
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, next Gen Status just uses the

1148
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: tracking data and says how close the defensive player is

1149
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: to the quarterback, and that's how they judge it.

1150
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: So it's done different ways. And that's my point. That's

1151
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: not necessarily.

1152
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: Correct, and that's fair, right, absolutely right.

1153
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: And how many times did Mahomes feel pressure but his

1154
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: intuition had him immediately moved to his right, So now

1155
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily being recorded as pressure, right, But he

1156
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: felt with pressure because maybe he through it to the

1157
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: tight end. But really that play was designed for something more.

1158
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: And listen, at the end of the day they created

1159
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: they created two backward passes. I don't think I've ever seen.

1160
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen a quarterback throw two

1161
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: backward passes in the same game.

1162
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: No one flew to the ball the first.

1163
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 4: Time because it went to Pacheco's feet and he was

1164
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: like disgusted with it. It was somebody else who actually

1165
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: came and picked the ball up right the offensive lineman.

1166
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it was Mahomes again.

1167
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, both times, so I think Dame Belton was

1168
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: near there, pounced on the ball, correct, and then the

1169
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 4: Okarake won. You know, Bobby has it in his hands

1170
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: and he lets Mahomes knock it out of his hands.

1171
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 6: One of the best players I've ever seen from a quarterback,

1172
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: by the way. Unbelievable play by mom.

1173
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: Correct.

1174
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: So Bobby's thinking, scoop and score, help out our offense,

1175
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: but secure the ball first.

1176
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: So you had two opportunities.

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00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: I've never seen two backward passes in game by the

1178
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: same quarterback.

1179
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Giants didn't get the ball in either one,

1180
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: and both were loose fumbles. It's unbelievable. Correct.

1181
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: So that's to your point, Tiki, about when you do

1182
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: create chances, when you're punching up in your weight class,

1183
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: and the Giants were punching up in their weight class.

1184
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 4: I like to use the boxing analogy. Those are the plays.

1185
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: A Debo interception, the one at the end. I don't

1186
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: think it was gonna change the game. It is concerning

1187
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 4: that he didn't catch it, But the other one that

1188
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: he had deep over the middle like they went up

1189
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 4: getting points right like, and the other two you got

1190
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: a chance to flip the field. Start on a short field.

1191
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: You know your kicker's hurt. So now you're in four

1192
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: down territory again. The more plays you run, the better

1193
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: chance is for defensive penalty. Maybe you get some.

1194
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: Scores out of it. You've got nothing, Yeah, no, I.

1195
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: Can you know, it's interesting in a funny, facetious way,

1196
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: I can see why Bobby o'cara ke in that moment

1197
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: is saying, I gotta go score because the Giants have

1198
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: been abismo in the red zone. They have not been

1199
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: able to punch the ball in when they're inside the

1200
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: opponent's ten yard line.

1201
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Some of that is play calling.

1202
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: A lot of it is just bad execution, going back

1203
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: to the Washington game.

1204
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: And so in a funny way, I kind of forgive Bobby.

1205
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: From for not just falling on the ball and he

1206
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 6: probably thought no one was near him when he tried to.

1207
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he did.

1208
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 3: But I could see him in his mind saying, I'm

1209
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 3: gonna go score. This is going to help us get

1210
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: a hold of this game because we're you're so close.

1211
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.

1212
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: They missed the field goal in the first half, and

1213
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's six instead of nine, and

1214
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: then you drive and you have a scoring drive and

1215
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: it feels like, Okay, we're good, we can figure this out.

1216
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: We played terrible, we can start playing better and we

1217
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: can beat this team. And then things just kind of

1218
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: start falling apart.

1219
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: Again, John, You've seen this over the years, and Antiki

1220
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: played on some good teams, and you played on some

1221
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: teams that really struggle. But like, when you get in

1222
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: these situations, especially when an offense is really struggling, that's

1223
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: when you get miss tackles because now everybody's trying to

1224
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: punch your ball, because everybody's trying to now play outside

1225
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: of their zone or capabilities, which then leads to mistakes.

1226
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: Rather than do your job, it's make a play which

1227
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: gets dangerous.

1228
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: Correct and I'm sure Bobby's killing himself for not being

1229
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: able to at least secure the ball and at least

1230
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 4: create the turnover.

1231
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. Man. The Giants aren't forcing turnovers.

1232
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: They're not.

1233
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: This was a big problem last year. How long did

1234
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: they go into the season before a dB had an interception?

1235
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was a one because the first one

1236
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: was moving out right. Yeah. I think it was eleven games.

1237
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: I know they finished with five, which was the second

1238
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: fewest in the league.

1239
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: I think they won eleven games before dB got an interception.

1240
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 4: They had two chances tonight. They had a couple of chances,

1241
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: Like you got to make those plays and that to

1242
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: help your offense when they're struggling.

1243
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: And they just won enough places period on both sides tonight. Yeah,

1244
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: unfortunately to give the Giants a chance to score some points.

1245
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: All right.

1246
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: Like I said, when you're when you're punching up and

1247
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: wake class, when you're fighting and a fighting up in

1248
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: weight class, it's all those little things.

1249
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: You've got to make.

1250
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 4: Those plays because if you just play it even you're

1251
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: probably not gonna win.

1252
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,560
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1253
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,800
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1255
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: hear from Gram Gno. Get final thoughts on Bob Papa,

1256
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: close the network, and then we'll come back and take

1257
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: your calls locally. After that, Giants loose to the Chiefs

1258
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: twenty two to nine. Will be right back with more

1259
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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 5: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

1261
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: Giants radio network.

1262
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 25: This is Graham Gano and you're listening to the radio

1263
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 25: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM,

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00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 25: New York.

1265
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Speaker 1: You know five this.

1266
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: Season, Gill in the hold snap is good kick on

1267
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: its way and he knocks it through. So Graham Gno

1268
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: hits from twenty five yards out and with ten twelve

1269
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: to go in the game, the Giants now trail by seven.

1270
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for the Giants, that was the only time they

1271
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: saw Graham Gonna kick in this game, suffering a great

1272
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: injury right before kickoff, forcing the Giants to change some

1273
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: of their offensive strategy in terms of trying to score

1274
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: touchdowns going forward on fourth down. He eventually figures out

1275
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: and tells the coaches he can kick from a certain

1276
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: range at halftime, he spoke to the media act to

1277
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: the game, explained what happened and exactly what the deal

1278
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: is moving forward.

1279
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 25: So, yeah, halftime, I went out and I was able

1280
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 25: to hit you know, extra points pretty well.

1281
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 9: So yeah, we're pretty much payments there.

1282
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Sat you do right.

1283
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 10: After your kick, he wins pretty good. Those are a

1284
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 10: lot of fays for sure.

1285
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 25: But you know, I still feel like I don't want

1286
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 25: to put the team in a hard spot, a harder

1287
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 25: spot just not playing it at all. So I tried

1288
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 25: to push through it, and they were definitely concerned, but

1289
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 25: I told him I could. I could push through it

1290
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 25: and at least make from fortying in. So that was

1291
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 25: the plan, and you know, I'm glad I was able

1292
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 25: to go out there and get the field goal for us.

1293
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 10: That first series.

1294
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 20: You're watching your CE and just watching down certainly in

1295
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 20: your field goal range.

1296
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 10: Is it kind of a six year ron? You know that? Yeah?

1297
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: For sure.

1298
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 10: Uh it's especially with like a pool, you can't control that.

1299
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 9: And that's.

1300
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 25: I remember somebody who's asked me questions just this past

1301
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 25: week about it. You know, what, what why am I

1302
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 25: feeling so good and everything? And then you know this happens,

1303
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 25: so it's frustrating, but I can only control what I

1304
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 25: can from here on, so I'll try to, you know,

1305
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 25: do with the trainers and doctor you're saying, and get

1306
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 25: back to what it's possible.

1307
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that was kind of.

1308
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 25: I went back to forty five and it was it

1309
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 25: was pushing it.

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 10: A little bit on on my legs.

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Speaker 25: So but yeah, I was making everything from fortying in

1312
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 25: and the train staft did a great job, uh, you know,

1313
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 25: wrapping it and getting me ready to go.

1314
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Speaker 2: All right, that's Graham Gano obviously injuring that leg right

1315
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: before the start of the game, and obviously it just

1316
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: changes your whole strategy, how you go about it, the

1317
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: play calling. You lost three points off the board, and

1318
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: that if you drive Tiki and it just again it

1319
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: in the game, that's going to be close. Against the Chiefs.

1320
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: They've played one score games all the time. Yeah, having

1321
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: to deal with that makes it very different, no, of.

1322
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: Course, and it's not an easy it's not an easy

1323
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: blame because you can't put it on the coach. But

1324
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: you've had this happen before twice in the last couple

1325
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: of years, so it's like for me, one type of things.

1326
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Shame on you. Pull me twice, Shame on me, fool

1327
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: me again, really shame on me.

1328
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Type of type of situation. There was nothing during the week.

1329
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: He was right, it's healthy, of course, but.

1330
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Speaker 3: I just it's just devastating when you when you're forced

1331
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: to not be able to try to put points on

1332
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 3: the board against a good team like the Kansas City Chiefs,

1333
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: and let's face it, they they should have had a

1334
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: ten to six lead early in this game, and they

1335
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: were constantly playing catch up, constantly trying to figure out

1336
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: how to convert on fourth downs or make that decision

1337
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 3: on fourth downs, and it's just it takes away from

1338
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: the focus of trying to win the game when you

1339
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: know that you've lost an option to put points on board,

1340
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 3: you know.

1341
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: And it's also psychologically demoralizing. Maybe not as much to

1342
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 4: the players, right, but when you have a vibe in

1343
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 4: the stadium and you're battling the Kansas City Chiefs and

1344
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 4: they've got two field goals on the board, and you

1345
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 4: come down and your rookie running back is making plays

1346
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 4: and you score a touchdown. It took energy out of

1347
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: the building with the blocked extra point, like, at that

1348
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: point in time, all right, we're winning seven to six,

1349
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: people are high five and it's like, oh, because now

1350
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: it's a reminder, Oh, the kicker's injured. So you're right, Tiki.

1351
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: It should have been ten to six, but it should

1352
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: have at least been seven to six, And it changed

1353
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 4: the whole vibe in the building, like, oh, man.

1354
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: It got blocked.

1355
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: Oh that's right the punters kicking, especially given what happened

1356
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 4: last year against Washington and then what happened the year

1357
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: before against the Cowboys when he and Andrew Thomas got

1358
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: hurt on the first series of the game with the

1359
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: block field goal, and Gano was not the same kicker

1360
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: that year, and it hurt them because when he's healthy,

1361
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: he's fantastic.

1362
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: So that was a big buzz kill as well. About

1363
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: final thoughts before you sciattle.

1364
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Speaker 4: Here, scattle that s getattle in nineteen fifties on me,

1365
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, look, they're gonna play a

1366
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: Charger team that's really good defensively. Now, the Chargers just

1367
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: lost Nagee Harris. They do have the rookie running back.

1368
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 4: You know, what can they do against the Chargers. The

1369
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: Chargers are three and zher. The Chargers have won three.

1370
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: Straight Division games to start the season and the AFC

1371
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: they looked like one of the best teams in football.

1372
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: Correct, So I mean, you're gonna be punching up in

1373
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: your weight class again, You're not gonna be playing in

1374
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: your weight class.

1375
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: You had one last week, you didn't win that one.

1376
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: You gotta win the ones in your weight class and

1377
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: then then take down a guy every now and then,

1378
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: and that's how you wind up having like a really

1379
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: good season. Yeah, they'll play in their weight class against

1380
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: the Saints, but you can't be owing four going.

1381
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: Into that game.

1382
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: So and then, by the way, after that, you have

1383
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: the Eagles, Broncos, Eagles.

1384
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: Let's just keep it one at a time, one at

1385
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: a time.

1386
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, Bob Well, but again trouble with the coaching staff

1387
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: looking too far ahead.

1388
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I don't know, like you've got to

1389
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: figure it out at the quarterbacks got to play better,

1390
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: you know, against a really good defense. Because against two

1391
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: defenses they haven't Against good defenses, they haven't scored and

1392
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: they beat up on a bad defense. How do we

1393
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: manufacture ways to grind it out and get some points

1394
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: on the board.

1395
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: All right, for those of you listening to us on

1396
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: our network, it's time to say goodbye to with us

1397
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: as here on WFAN, but we say goodbye to the

1398
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: affiliates across the country on.

1399
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Our Giants Audio network. By the way, our.

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01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Next broadcast will be next Sunday when the Giants at

1401
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: their second straight home game hosting the La Chargers almost

1402
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: aid San Diego. I'm gonna do that at least three

1403
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: times next week, Takular, This warning you pregame on our

1404
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: netwill begin at noon with the kickoff at one. The

1405
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: Giants again fall to the Chiefs twenty two to nine.

1406
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on our network, and of

1407
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: course stay tuned to our coverage of the Giants all

1408
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: week long on Big would kickoff live every weekday at

1409
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: twelve thirty, and all our other podcast on giants dot Com,

1410
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: the Giant Giants YouTube channel. Goodbye to everybody on the

1411
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: WFAN Giants Radio network.

1412
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: But we're not done.

1413
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: Right here on WFN in New York, Tiki Barbera and

1414
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: I will stick around, Paul Thetino will jump in. We'll

1415
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: all take your calls at eight eight eight, eight oh eight,

1416
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: one zero one nine Wolves some more sound from the

1417
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: locker room. We got a one on one with Cam Scataboo.

1418
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: We'll talk about his performance. Andrew Thomas, Brian Burns, Darius

1419
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Slain stick with us. We'll be back on the fan

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 23: This is Cameron Scattaboo and you're listening to Giants Football

1422
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 23: on the fan, WFAN and WFA n FM, New York.

1423
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Hands it off for Scattaboo up the middle, cuts loft.

1424
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: He said the five for the goal line. Did he

1425
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: get in? No signal yet touchdown?

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01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 4: Giants can't Scataboo on a thirteen yard run.

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: We're the one forty four.

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 4: To go in the half and the game is tied

1429
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: at six with the extra point pending. Seven plays, seventy

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: yard for the Giants.

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: Scataboo with a second touchdown of the season. And that

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Speaker 1: was tonight's play.

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01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 2: The game brought to you locally by four and one

1434
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: performance and capability at every turn.

1435
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: Who doesn't get behind the way of a new.

1436
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: Ford truck or SUV Ford official truck and SUV of

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: the New York Giants. John shmulch Teky Barber back with

1438
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: you right here on the fan in New York.

1439
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: Get on the line.

1440
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: We'll take your calls to the next forty minutes or

1441
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: so at eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero

1442
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: one nine eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero

1443
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: one nine.

1444
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: That was camp Scattaboo's touchdown.

1445
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: And look, you can put this on a lot of

1446
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: people on the offense today in terms of who did

1447
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: not play well well, Cam Scataboo is not in that category.

1448
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: Ten carries sixty yards with a touchdown and then led

1449
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: the Giants in receiving as well, six catches sixty one

1450
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: yards and along of twenty one. Uh Paul Tatino had

1451
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: a one on one after the game. Let's listen into

1452
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: that interview.

1453
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 6: So Cam, you get one and twenty offense rushing and

1454
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 6: receiving and so once again and you know, get in

1455
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 6: getting into the end zone.

1456
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 21: Your you have a real spart play for this offense.

1457
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 12: It just wasn't enough tonight.

1458
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, we just got to ask you better

1459
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 26: as a team. You know, we we played well, we

1460
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 26: struggled when they needed when it mattered the most. But

1461
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 26: I think I think we have a bright, bright future

1462
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 26: ahead of us. I see this, I see the offense

1463
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 26: and what we have in this offense, and I'm excited

1464
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 26: to see it.

1465
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 10: Rolling.

1466
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 26: You know, they gave me rolling a little bit and

1467
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 26: then you know, all these other guys like, we got

1468
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 26: talent on this team, and once we get this thing rolling,

1469
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 26: it's gonna be a scary sight.

1470
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 6: How difficult was it to go in at halftime down

1471
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 6: nine six? It was six to six? Then they get

1472
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 6: the big penalty and they get that field goal. Is

1473
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,479
Speaker 6: that a big deflation thing for you guys when you come.

1474
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 11: Into the locker room.

1475
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not really.

1476
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 26: I mean we got to look at it zero zero,

1477
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 26: go back out there and play our game. You know,

1478
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 26: I'm just score points. I mean that that's our job

1479
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 26: as an offense.

1480
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 21: We just got score points.

1481
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 10: That's it.

1482
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 26: So coming in coming in nine six, like, that's that's

1483
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 26: a hope thing for us. They've kicked our defense has

1484
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 26: held them to three field goals, Like we got hope,

1485
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 26: you know. So you know, I'm excited to see what

1486
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 26: we got in the future, and we got to get

1487
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 26: this thing rolling and keep going.

1488
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 6: Spags is a terrific defensive coordinator. Does a lot of blitzing,

1489
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 6: a lot of run blitzing too.

1490
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 10: So was it rookie, What do you learn from.

1491
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 6: A game like there's going up against the master.

1492
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: DC like him?

1493
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean he was great he had disguises that

1494
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 26: I've never seen before, and you know, it looked like

1495
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 26: there was nine guys coming coming in the gaps and

1496
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 26: nobody came. So it's it's it's definitely a difference. But

1497
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 26: we have our keys in O assignments and we know

1498
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 26: where to be at. You know, we study all week

1499
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 26: for that, so we just got to continue to do

1500
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 26: our thing.

1501
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 10: Cam appreciate your time.

1502
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.

1503
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: That's Cam Scattaboy after the game with Paul Theatino Tiki,

1504
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: our resident running back in house. Here, give me your breakdown.

1505
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: This is the most action we see all saw from

1506
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: Cam uh this year. We don't know how long Tyland

1507
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: Tracy is going to be out. Brian Dable did not

1508
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: comment on that. I imagine we're probably not gonna know that.

1509
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: I would imagine they'll probably do MRIs whatever they need

1510
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: to do. That probably won't be until Wednesday. But clearly

1511
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: he looked like he was in a lot of pain

1512
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: on the sideline, So I think, you know, worst comes

1513
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,479
Speaker 2: to worst, will see more of Camp Scataboo moving forward.

1514
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: Even in the best case scenario, if they work Tracy

1515
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: back in.

1516
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really liked Tracy.

1517
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: He started out the game extraordinarily well, a couple of

1518
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 3: big runs, a couple of first downs, catches catching the ball.

1519
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: Score Absolutely they did, and so to you know, thoughts

1520
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: and prayers out to Tyrone and hopefully gets better and

1521
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: he's not out for too long. But Cam'scataboo is the

1522
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: perfect replacement for him because of his energy that he brings.

1523
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 3: In the pregame, you did an interview with him John.

1524
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: He talked about the physicality which he plays, and you

1525
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 3: saw as he's running through tackles. You saw it with

1526
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: some of his great contact balance they call it. Now

1527
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: you know he can catch the ball out of the backfield.

1528
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 3: He's versatile. He can block in third down situations or

1529
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 3: even pass blocking situations. So he led the league, or

1530
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: led the team today in touches and in yards. He

1531
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: had sixteen touches for one hundred and twenty one yards

1532
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: and obviously the touchdown that really got everybody excited. So

1533
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: you gotta love how he plays. The one thing I

1534
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: have a worry about is how hard he goes into contact.

1535
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: I had this conversation with Brandon Jacobs, who we had

1536
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 3: on in the pregame early in his career, and bj

1537
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: was huge and BJ's six for two hundred and fifty pounds,

1538
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: and he could withstand some of those hits. But I

1539
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 3: told him, you're not gonna play long, Brandon. If you

1540
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: if you take every shot, if you think you need

1541
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: to and should take every shot, you're not gonna play long.

1542
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: And so he adjusted his game, like he started taking

1543
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: the glancing ones when he didn't need to, or stepping

1544
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: out of bounds, even though I know it feels like

1545
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: you're being soft doing that, but preservation is so important

1546
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: for the our position. My de picsions. I used to

1547
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: play because of how valuable you become when you can

1548
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: be a playmaker, and I think he is one of

1549
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 3: those big playmakers that this team currently has.

1550
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 6: You know, one of the things Tiki and you know this,

1551
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 6: yards have to contact.

1552
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: There are two kinds.

1553
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 6: There are yards after contact when you break a tackle,

1554
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 6: when you were able to drag a guy or even

1555
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 6: able to push a guy or bully you guy some right,

1556
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 6: But yards have to contact where you deliver the blow.

1557
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 6: That's a little different, yes, because now that has a

1558
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 6: negative impact on you yourself. It's a shot you're taking,

1559
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 6: and that's the kind of yards after contact that you're

1560
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 6: talking about that he needs to avoid because when he

1561
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 6: delivers a blow that he doesn't need to deliver, he's

1562
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 6: actually spending a little cash out of his bank. And

1563
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 6: that's what he's got to be careful about, right. And

1564
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 6: you know, I thought the Giants ran the ball really

1565
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 6: earlier in this game. That's when Andrew Thomas played his

1566
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 6: twenty five snaps. We'll hear from him in just a second,

1567
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 6: by the way, but we found out that he got

1568
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 6: taken out of the game.

1569
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't because he rinjured himself. It wasn't a coach's decision.

1570
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: It was a snap count issue. They played him form

1571
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: about twenty five snaps, and I thought he did a

1572
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: really great job run blocking while he was on the field,

1573
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, take he looked like the old Andrew Thomas.

1574
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: Kay. Of course, I mean he was. That's why you

1575
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: clamor for a guy like that.

1576
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: It's why you pay him when you paid him, and

1577
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: then you restructure him when you know he's about to

1578
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: come back and be healthy because you want him here

1579
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: as a star warts for years to come. It's just

1580
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: a matter of keeping him or getting him I should

1581
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: say up to speed, because he now feels healthy up.

1582
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: Put that in quotes. But you have to get him

1583
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: back up to speed, and that's why you take your

1584
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: time with him.

1585
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: By of course, men, he couldn't have come out here

1586
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: and played seventy plays or sixty one plays that they

1587
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: had offensively, I know that's what we think, and be

1588
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: tough and be you know, take one for the team.

1589
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: But if that's not smart, you don't you don't, you

1590
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: don't do that. And instead Marcus Bow he was good again.

1591
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he gave up a couple of pressures in

1592
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: this game. He had one sack to a side right,

1593
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: But it just feels like, if you're going to limit

1594
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas, having Bow there to learn and sit behind

1595
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: him is actually a really good thing.

1596
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 2: Well, let's here from Andrew Thomas. We spoke to him

1597
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 2: downstairs after the game.

1598
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 6: Andrew, for the time that you were in there, what

1599
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 6: part of your game came back the quickest thing you

1600
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 6: felt good about, and what parts of your game do

1601
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 6: you still think didn't come back?

1602
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think I quiz in the wrong game communication

1603
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 14: with the guys around me, and I think, you know

1604
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 14: there's some pains in the past game.

1605
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 10: I can sign up getting my set back to where.

1606
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 21: It was before you on track? You think for four

1607
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 21: game next week? Its gonna take a couple of games.

1608
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 14: Interests we see alright, responds tomorrow, and uh, we'll talk

1609
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 14: about the plan and as soon as we know.

1610
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 19: For this what do you think this offense needs to

1611
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 19: do to kind of be more consistent and get over

1612
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 19: the hump?

1613
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 14: I would say just execution all the way around. You know,

1614
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 14: it's a lot of plays that we leave on the field.

1615
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 14: One position group is doing well and the other one

1616
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 14: is in childhood offense. All ELEM have to execute and

1617
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 14: that's what we gotta work with.

1618
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 6: Andrew appears from upstairs. That Scatterby really gives you guys

1619
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 6: an extra spark when he makes one of those physical plays.

1620
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 21: What's it like in the huddle?

1621
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 6: And and what's it like when you see him.

1622
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: On the field make a play like that?

1623
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 6: Is there really much of an impact?

1624
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 14: Now? You can tell scats a football guy. It just

1625
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 14: loves bark and it shows in his play. And we

1626
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 14: haven't heard that backuns like that. I guess the dompess

1627
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 14: a mind going for short?

1628
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: Thank you? What's it like?

1629
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 19: I mean hearing the crowd kind of chant.

1630
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 9: Or are more done through when he.

1631
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 19: Comes off the field, what's going through your head and

1632
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 19: your teammate's huns ignored.

1633
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 14: I understand there's gonna be a controversy. I trust on

1634
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 14: the coach of stud but trust in our players and

1635
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 14: whoever's out there we're going to support.

1636
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: That's Andrew Thomas. After the game, Pole you were part

1637
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: of that.

1638
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: What you get from Andrew downstairs and almost kind of

1639
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: feeling in the locker room talking and.

1640
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 6: Drew seemed to be frank quite relieved that he was

1641
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 6: able to get out there give them as many snaps

1642
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 6: as they had hoped he would, because you know, just

1643
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 6: because they say, hey, we think you can give us

1644
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 6: X number of snaps in this game, that doesn't mean

1645
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 6: he's going to be able to get out there and

1646
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 6: fulfill that obligation.

1647
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: He may go out.

1648
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 6: There not feel well, get tweaked, and have to come out.

1649
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 6: So I think he felt relieved and accomplished that he

1650
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 6: passed the next hurdle in what they gave him to do.

1651
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 6: And you could hear him in the interview. He sounded

1652
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 6: very calm, very relaxed.

1653
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: He usually is though he's a pretty kill guy.

1654
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 6: He is, but he didn't sound at all disappointed. No,

1655
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 6: like he's had a setback or anything. Of course, he

1656
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 6: did say they'll have to wait till tomorrow see how

1657
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 6: he feels. I will say this, John, we talked about

1658
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 6: him in the pregame. I kept track of spags blitzes,

1659
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 6: and I tracked all all of them until the Giants

1660
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 6: last two drives of the fourth quarter in the final

1661
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 6: five minutes. And it looks as though he blitzed pretty

1662
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 6: close to about fifty percent of the time, So he

1663
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 6: was not.

1664
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: That's not what the all the analytics after the game

1665
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: that for six or seven blitzer, and I didn't think

1666
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: they blitzed a lot either, to be honest, if you

1667
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: watched the game live, well.

1668
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 6: Let's see, on the Giants first drive there was a

1669
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 6: six man pressure, six man pressure, of five man pressure,

1670
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 6: a seven man pressure, of five man pressure.

1671
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: Into six games.

1672
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's six sixth plights. That's six blitzer in

1673
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 6: the first drive.

1674
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see that up here, Okay, I gotta be

1675
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: honest with you. I watched the game too.

1676
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 2: No, and again I'm just Paul. I'm just telling you what.

1677
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 2: I've different analytics websites I get you. One is NGS,

1678
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: which tracks player data. It's not people watching it. The

1679
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: other one is people that are watching it by hand.

1680
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 6: Because I not only tracked the blitzers, I put down

1681
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 6: how many guys came on each play.

1682
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: So that's pretty that's pretty specific. No, I get it,

1683
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: but you don't.

1684
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: You don't get a replay of every play and everything

1685
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: like that.

1686
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well, what happens is I watched the play

1687
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 6: on the field in about seven seconds later we get

1688
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 6: to lay on TV, so I double check it on replay. Okay,

1689
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 6: well we'll say so you know, I don't have to

1690
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 6: tell you I will. All I can go is by

1691
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 6: the guy that's in front. I got what I'm saying.

1692
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 6: I got, and I'd already said that only in the

1693
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 6: pre end. That's why I have to bring it up

1694
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 6: is otherwise we're contradicting each other.

1695
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: No, no, I understand, I got you.

1696
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 2: All right, let let's let's go to the phone calls

1697
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight eight one zero one nine eighty

1698
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 2: eight eight eight one zero one nine. Let's go to Well,

1699
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: Bob already previewed this callers. I think we have to

1700
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: get to it. That's Salad Yonkers. What's going on?

1701
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 20: Dad?

1702
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: How are you so.

1703
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 16: Hello guys, Hi, Hi John, Hi Paul, I say it.

1704
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 20: It is frustrating. What's that.

1705
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: We didn't say anything? Go ahead? So out? Yeah, we

1706
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: got a lot of there, go ahead.

1707
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 20: I am so frustrated. You know, how is it that

1708
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 20: we got first thing? I was listening to a game.

1709
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 20: It was a Bob pop up on the radio while

1710
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 20: was that the game today? And as soon as I

1711
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 20: heard him say that, cans out the stands don't know.

1712
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 20: We did not know it. How do we got a

1713
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 20: guy in the league that can kick a sixty four

1714
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 20: yard and our guy gets hurt going warm up? I

1715
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 20: I that's that's the first thing that deflated me. And

1716
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 20: then Gilian tried to kick the extra point that deflated this.

1717
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 20: And I hear you know, I've hear the guys talking

1718
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 20: affluence and execution. Execution. That's to me, that's telling me

1719
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 20: you're not doing your job, you know, lack of excution. Ticky,

1720
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 20: can you tell me if that's right, wrong or not?

1721
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, of course it is.

1722
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: But ultimately, you know, it comes down to the players

1723
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: making plays in moments, and and the Giants had their

1724
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: moments in this game. The guys just didn't make the plays.

1725
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: The Graham Ganault situation is just it's the most frustrating

1726
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 3: one because we got burned by it against Washington a

1727
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 3: year ago, a game that the Giants should have won

1728
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: almost put it puts possessions on the way, It takes

1729
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: possessions away from you when you don't score those point points.

1730
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: And so to have it happen.

1731
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 3: Again against the Kansas City Chiefs and the home opener,

1732
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: it's just it's frustrated.

1733
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: Like deflating. Bob was talking about this earlier.

1734
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: It sucks the wind out of you because it you know,

1735
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, it puts you at a disadvantage that you

1736
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: cannot combat in any way.

1737
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: And Paul, what's so annoying about it is that you

1738
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: can't even blame anybody for this. I know the guy

1739
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: wasn't on the injury report, he's healthy. He happens to

1740
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: get hurt right before the game start. It's not that

1741
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 2: you can just activate you mcatone at that point and

1742
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: put him on the you know, active the game.

1743
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: You can't do that, right. So I'm with Ticky, I

1744
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: heard it.

1745
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: I you know, I think someone texting me as I'm

1746
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: going to the bathrooman after the pregame show is over

1747
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: and you just put your hands up like, oh wait,

1748
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: kid me come on, and like again, it's no one's fault.

1749
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: But it is very very said going in how close.

1750
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 3: It was right And I felt the pressure. I felt

1751
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 3: the stress that Dave's had to have felt imediately.

1752
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: Oh so did I. Yep, you know what I mean.

1753
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 6: Now, the tough part here is that Jamie Gillen when

1754
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 6: he was at Arkansas Pine Bluff did kick field goals, yes, okay.

1755
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: And Paul lost every one of those field goals.

1756
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 6: By the way, he was forty one of sixty seven

1757
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 6: okay for sixty one, which.

1758
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: Is not great. But he's a punter with a longer

1759
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: fifty two. Now, yes, he's got a big line. Now

1760
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: here's the thing.

1761
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 6: They obviously felt from what we saw in Washington last

1762
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 6: year that they were not going to rely on him

1763
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 6: tonight because they didn't rely it in Ben, so they

1764
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 6: were not going to rely on him tonight.

1765
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things that that I

1766
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 1: was most curious.

1767
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 6: About when I was in the locker room talking to

1768
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 6: different players that when you guys found out that your

1769
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 6: kicker was hurt on the sideline and that was going

1770
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: to have to affect and impact the game plan because

1771
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 6: now you're you're not going to be going for three,

1772
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 6: So like play calling everything right, everything, It.

1773
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: Changes your whole offensive.

1774
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 6: And now I also as burns about how does that

1775
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 6: change the pressure on your defense because now you know

1776
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 6: that points are going to be in a real premium

1777
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 6: against a Kansas City Chiefs team that usually scored.

1778
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it, and it had to have felt

1779
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: in retrospect. I mean after the game was over and

1780
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: you knew how it transpired. The Giants defense did their

1781
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: part in the first half, right, They nine six, They

1782
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 3: held the Kansas City Chiefs the field goals, and it's

1783
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 3: what you want to happen from a defensive perspective, and

1784
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: by all means, the Giants should have had the lead

1785
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 3: ten to six, as we talked about. And it's and

1786
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: again I can't think of any other word than just demoralizing.

1787
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 3: It's hard to overcome that when you know you've struggled

1788
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: in the red zone.

1789
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: The one the.

1790
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 3: Biggest issue with this Giants offense is not the big plays,

1791
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 3: because we've seen a few of them eight week a

1792
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: week ago, there's a couple of them today, But it's

1793
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: scoring in the red zone.

1794
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: They get there, they just can't get points. I'll go

1795
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: to the Harvey and Dick's els. Harvey, what's going on? Pal?

1796
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: Hey Harvey?

1797
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 18: How you doing? How are you.

1798
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: All tired and not the happiest? But we're here?

1799
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 18: Okay, three points, I'll say quickly. I think this is

1800
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 18: one faticky. You know, this is a third time. I

1801
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 18: think that the Giants happened without a kicker at some point, Yes,

1802
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 18: during a game, if I'm not mistaken, But I was

1803
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 18: a wide receiver. I couldn't kick a football if I

1804
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 18: fell over it for my life, right. But what what

1805
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 18: I don't understand is there any versatility where a kicker

1806
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 18: can can punt and a punter can kick field goals?

1807
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 18: How prevalent is that? Or do they just always picked

1808
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 18: the best punter and the best kicker that's number one?

1809
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1810
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a couple of guys that

1811
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 3: have done that over there. Didn't Jay Feely do that?

1812
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 6: They just picked the best punter and the best kicker? Yeah,

1813
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 6: but I think Jay Feely could do both. Thank you,

1814
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 6: actually did some field goal kicks. Fagles to the Buffalo Bills.

1815
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 6: Their backup kicker is the backup running back.

1816
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: The pre season. Yes, what's your second point, Harvey?

1817
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 18: The second point is, uh, you always say that Jackson

1818
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 18: Dard would would be would come in when the offensive

1819
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 18: line is stabilized. They're playing a little better. Do you

1820
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 18: think the offensive line is stabilized enough now or are

1821
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 18: they going to wait for their plan of patience and

1822
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 18: the Harvey the third Yeah.

1823
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick, Harvey finished up, and then we'll answer both. Yeah,

1824
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, right.

1825
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 18: I was stunned that Shane Bowen at least he was

1826
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 18: interviewed in news at least an article in news Day.

1827
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 18: I think Tom Rock said that he apologized for his

1828
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 18: defenses being too loose and is under a lot of

1829
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 18: pressure to do his job. I've never seen that publicly.

1830
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 18: That's usually you know, kept in the clubhouse. Did you

1831
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 18: did you read that article?

1832
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: I did not, No, I can imagine it. Thank you, Harvey. Yeah,

1833
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Harvey.

1834
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 3: You know, first on the on the on the Shane

1835
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: Bowen stuff. You know, when you go back and you

1836
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 3: watch the tape on a couple of these games, you

1837
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 3: see these in some cases they're confused. Part of that

1838
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 3: is they're just learning this system. It's a lot of

1839
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 3: man especially against Dallas. It was two man man coverage.

1840
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: You have Michaelmfadden out and and Darius Mussa was out

1841
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: in this game as well, And so you're you're starting

1842
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: these players who were on your practice squad. You wanted

1843
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: to develop them for a year or two or whatever,

1844
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 3: and now they're having to play in critical moments, and

1845
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: it confusion just occurs because they're not used to playing together.

1846
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: The other thing, and I think this is the biggest thing,

1847
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 3: is that they have good players, but they're not making

1848
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 3: big plays.

1849
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: And in the NFL.

1850
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: The margin for error is so small that if you

1851
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 3: don't make those big plays when you have the opportunity,

1852
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 3: the good teams are going to burn you. And it's

1853
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: what the Chiefs did. And I don't even think the

1854
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs are that good of a team this year. It's

1855
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 3: just they have experience on how to win games and

1856
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: how to how to how to play when it's tight

1857
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: when they're not playing at their best. The Giants can't

1858
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: win games when they're not playing at their best, and

1859
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: that's what gets frustrated. Two notes on the bow and

1860
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: press conference that he mentioned. One he said he would

1861
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 3: like to have that defensive call back just because but

1862
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 3: he's stressed because of the result. He said it should

1863
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 3: have been played tighter based on how I wish it

1864
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 3: was tighter.

1865
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 1: But Harvey's question, that's execution.

1866
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, hundred percent. But then he said he's feeling

1867
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: the pressure. He wasn't to the point the question wasn't,

1868
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: well do you feel like you're coordinating for your job here?

1869
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: And like, yeah, I feel pressure. That's what I'm doing.

1870
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: That's not what he was saying. He's just saying, yes,

1871
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: of course you feel pressure to play better defense because

1872
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: you want to get wins. So that was the context

1873
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: of that answer. I just wanted to make that clear. Yeah,

1874
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: And then he asked about the offensive line as well well.

1875
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: He asked about the offensive line visa v. Jackson Dart. Yes,

1876
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: has it gotten better? Yes, sure, But.

1877
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because we had this conversation John, you

1878
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 3: and I after week one when Daves did not not

1879
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 3: slam the door shut on Jackson Dart.

1880
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: And at least he's being consistent. Now he's basically saying

1881
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that.

1882
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: After what he said said, you guys keep asking me

1883
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 3: about this, I am not going to talk about it

1884
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: after the game. But he's also not slamming the door shut.

1885
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 3: He's not saying Russell Wilson is my starting quarterback. And

1886
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 3: in fact, when he was asked directly, is Russell Wilson

1887
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 3: going to start? Is Russell Wilson going to start? We're

1888
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: gonna look at it. Don't put that pressure on me

1889
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: right now. I'm not blaming this on one person, same

1890
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 3: time answer you gave it week exactly. It's a non answer,

1891
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 3: but it also tells me that he is and we're

1892
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 3: going to continue to develop Jackson Dart. That's what he

1893
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 3: also said that he has to be thinking about it

1894
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 3: because against these good teams, Russ is not rising to

1895
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 3: the occasion. And those last two possessions were as bad

1896
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: of a quarterbacking that I've seen in a long time.

1897
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 3: He wasn't even close to one of his wide receivers,

1898
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 3: and that's unacceptable for a guy who's supposed to be

1899
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: leading this team to who wins. While Jackson Dark continues

1900
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 3: to develop, and at some point, and you started to

1901
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: hear it already, we want Jackson, we want Jackson. The

1902
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: chants are happening in the in the in the stadium,

1903
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 3: and it's that's just the irrational and impatient fans.

1904
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: But you can't.

1905
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: You can't, but you can't let drive your decision by

1906
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 2: the way, of course.

1907
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: You can't, but you also can't blame them. Paul, you

1908
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: had to comment off of what Harvey's called.

1909
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, Actually, I want to go back to something

1910
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 6: in the Tiki said, because both Burns and Dexter Lawrence,

1911
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 6: without even knowing what you're feeling, was kind of echoed

1912
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 6: what you said. Dexter Lawrence said, Hey, you got to understand.

1913
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 6: I asked them when it was sixteen to nine in

1914
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, you're only down by a score. The

1915
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 6: Chiefs drive seventy seven yards for the clinching touchdown, and

1916
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 6: I said to him, what troubled you the most about

1917
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 6: that drive?

1918
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, they just made plays.

1919
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 6: We almost had the Homes and then they made two

1920
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 6: really nice catches.

1921
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: He goes, sometimes you just.

1922
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 6: Got to make a play, and they had guys who

1923
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 6: made plays on that drive. That's to your point. Brian

1924
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 6: Burns flat out said, we had two or three chances

1925
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 6: to get takeaways and we didn't get them.

1926
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, to sack Mahomes, yeah, on one

1927
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: or two of those plays.

1928
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 6: Yes, So ultimately, when we always hear that theory that

1929
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 6: there were four or five game changing plays in every game. Well,

1930
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 6: guess what the Kansas City Chiefs made those plays when

1931
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,440
Speaker 6: they came up and the Giants didn't.

1932
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,839
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I should bring this up. Paul

1950
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,839
Speaker 2: and I wrestled during that break about the pressure stats.

1951
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 2: Luckily not the one of us fell out of the booth.

1952
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: But I think we figured out. Actually the numbers I

1953
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,839
Speaker 2: gave were simply on pass plays. Paul was counting run blitzes,

1954
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: which is why there was some disagreement there on what

1955
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: the total numbers were. So ye, we.

1956
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Figured it out.

1957
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Numbers, UH do life sometimes, and you have to make

1958
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: sure you have the right context when you talk about

1959
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: those numbers.

1960
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: How true it is, how true it is. So. Brian

1961
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: Burns did talk to the media after the game. Let's

1962
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: listen it.

1963
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 10: Well, first of you feel you got a little bank.

1964
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 10: Uh No, I'm good. On that bad pass, it just

1965
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 10: looked like I think I landed weird, im brixtended. So

1966
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 10: I was just making sure that, oh straight, that's okay.

1967
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: Let scare your defense battle tonight.

1968
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 21: What did you think of your overall group?

1969
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 12: We did well, not good enough. Miss some uh ball opportunities.

1970
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 12: Uh you know, a couple of picks a fumbere that

1971
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 12: got away from us. Other than that, as a whole

1972
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 12: up front, I feel like we got Alton Patrick it's just,

1973
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 12: you know, gotta finish those plays.

1974
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 18: How frustrating is it to be rating that game at

1975
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 18: halftime and and then end up in the losing end?

1976
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 10: Very you know, but I've been to the lead long

1977
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 10: enough to know how Sundays can go. You know, it

1978
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 10: can go either way. You know, just it really come

1979
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 10: down to about four or five plays.

1980
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 1: How does this team respond?

1981
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 10: Sorry? Man, My message to them is that every Sundays

1982
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 10: is on Sunday.

1983
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 12: You know, watching ball earlier today, you know it's a

1984
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 12: bunch of upsets, but it was crazy plays or plays

1985
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 12: that was executed by you know, the winning team to

1986
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,879
Speaker 12: you know, obviously U get the dub, but every Sundays

1987
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 12: it's on Sunday, So treated like as.

1988
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 6: Such, pray. Was there any aspect of the defense that

1989
01:28:51,920 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 6: move forward today after the first other two games?

1990
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 10: I guess, I mean you could say that, you know,

1991
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 10: it was a high powered offense. You know, my home

1992
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 10: is one of the best.

1993
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 12: You know, holding him to you know sixteen or whatever

1994
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 12: halfway into the fourth is you know a good thing.

1995
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 12: But I'm not really here for more victories, you know,

1996
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 12: so it just wasn't good enough.

1997
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 6: Did you feel the Wash defense was improved though.

1998
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 10: Ah, the rest was good. The rest rst been good.

1999
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 12: You know, it just gotta gotta finish those plays and

2000
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 12: you know to make turn'am into takeaways.

2001
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 10: You know, literally we do get.

2002
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 9: Home oh and three after an off season offense.

2003
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 12: But nothing changed Optison don't go away just cause of

2004
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 12: the three losses. Not not not with me, like I said,

2005
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 12: every Sunday it's on Sunday to me. You know, there's

2006
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 12: a bunch of upsets that was today. You know, it

2007
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 12: takes one game to turn it's season around, understand, So

2008
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 12: I'm I'm always gonna be out the bed, you feel me?

2009
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: So what makes it it's different though than last year?

2010
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 25: In your minds?

2011
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 10: Makes it different?

2012
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 21: Yeah?

2013
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like last year when you start losing, it kind.

2014
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 12: Of just spirl right, you know, I feel like guys

2015
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 12: still don't bat nine. You know, it's like the fight

2016
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 12: is different. Like I said, I'm not here for moll reageries,

2017
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 12: but the fight is different though, you know, and all

2018
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 12: three losses we really thought out bought our behinds off.

2019
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 12: You know, it just didn't fold our way. The cars

2020
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 12: didn't fall our way. But you know, last year there

2021
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 12: was a sense of like, uh, all here we go

2022
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 12: again this year, it really didn't like that. I still

2023
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 12: see guys, you know, fighting and and feeling like we

2024
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 12: still we still can win the game.

2025
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 10: So I would say, I guess that's different.

2026
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 19: What's the confidence level that you haven't really shown what

2027
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 19: the Giants brand of.

2028
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Football is yet? This year?

2029
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 10: Say that one more time.

2030
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 19: What's your confidence level that you haven't fully shown what

2031
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 19: the Giants brand of football is yet?

2032
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 12: It mainly it all holds and it's always in playing

2033
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 12: compromentary ball. You know, I don't feel like we have

2034
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 12: yet to you know, execute and play well on all sides,

2035
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 12: all phases of the game, and you know, meet every

2036
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 12: team strives for that, but I feel like we haven't

2037
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 12: seen that yet.

2038
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 10: So we just have to find a way to put

2039
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 10: it all together.

2040
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 6: You know, Brian, you know points you're gonna be in

2041
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 6: a print him against Kansas City, and I'm sure you

2042
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 6: guys were awhere. Your kicker was nicked up, so you

2043
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,839
Speaker 6: knew that that was gonna be a bit of a problem.

2044
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 6: Does that put more pressure on the defense?

2045
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, it does, you know, cause that puts some positions

2046
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 12: where we have to go for it on fourth down

2047
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 12: and we just can't take the points cause our kicker,

2048
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 12: you know, UH had an unfortunate uh injury.

2049
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 10: So it does put a little bit of pressure on us.

2050
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, we're paid to

2051
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 12: play defense, so gotta keep points on the board.

2052
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 15: Ryan, UH take to m as a team leader, what

2053
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 15: do you think of during the home opener, Uh, late

2054
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 15: in the first half, fans calling for your starting quarterback.

2055
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 10: To be benched. I'd hear that if they wanted Jackson

2056
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 10: to play. Hey man, fans are gonna be fans, y'all.

2057
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 10: Love the fans.

2058
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 12: I appreciate the fans, but you know, you know, it's

2059
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 12: emotional thing, you know what I'm saying, Like I don't

2060
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 12: blame them or anything of that nature, but you know

2061
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 12: it's emotional thing, and and they most can be high and.

2062
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 10: Low depending on what happens.

2063
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 12: Like you know, everybody loved for us when you do

2064
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 12: that uh that bomb to Melite to win the game.

2065
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 10: But you know, it's week by week and you can

2066
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 10: flip on it.

2067
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 19: But I didn't hear any of that prepare for next

2068
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 19: week at the kid Parisil injured.

2069
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 10: I really don't know.

2070
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: That's a that's a.

2071
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 10: I can't even talk. That's a decision for somebody a

2072
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 10: lot high to me. But yeah, yeah, it's a bit.

2073
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 12: It's a bit of pressure, like you know, just because

2074
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 12: we're going to be putt in situations where we have

2075
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 12: to go forward and they're going to depend.

2076
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 10: On the need just to get the styles. But like

2077
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 10: I said, we're page. It stopped the offense, so we

2078
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 10: just got to get it done, you know what I mean.

2079
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: Paul, you're in the locker room.

2080
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: We heard from Dexter Lawrence, you heard from Brian Burns,

2081
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 2: a couple other players. It sure seems like they're very

2082
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: well behind Russell Wilson here as a starting quarterback.

2083
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Well they are.

2084
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 6: They understand his resume, they understands his experience, they have

2085
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 6: seen firsthand for several months, his leadership skills, his ability

2086
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 6: to try to keep things positive even in the face

2087
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 6: of adversity.

2088
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

2089
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 6: I got no sense from anybody that they have lost

2090
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 6: any faith or confidence in Wilson.

2091
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: And I think they all understand that.

2092
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 6: You know, he is supposed to be the guy who

2093
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 6: gives him the best chance to win, and to this

2094
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 6: point they believe that. And I have not seen anybody waiver.

2095
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 6: So why shouldn't you continue to be behind all.

2096
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Right, let's go to Robbie and Lennox. He's up next day.

2097
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 16: Robbie, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I mean,

2098
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 16: the first of all, I just want to say my

2099
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 16: two favorite teams are the New York Giants and my

2100
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 16: other favorite teams coming in next week, the Chargers.

2101
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: Okay.

2102
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 16: So I go all the way back to Eric coriol Okay,

2103
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 16: go all the way back to Eric coriole as a kid,

2104
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 16: because the Giants were so bad in the early seventies

2105
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 16: and I heeded all the other teams. I needed a

2106
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 16: team to watch, so I watched Dan Fouts every week, okay,

2107
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 16: and that he never got to the Super Bowl. Here's

2108
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 16: here's what the past. It was great. So here's the deal. Okay.

2109
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 16: Jim Harbaugh was bought in last year, Okay as a

2110
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 16: coach who plays Brandon Staley. And I'm telling you right now,

2111
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 16: if the Giants had a head coach and assistant coaches

2112
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 16: who had the who had brains in their head, okay,

2113
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 16: they would actually win some games. I mean, I have

2114
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 16: never seen such stupidity in the red zone my life.

2115
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 16: I've been just throwing it out the Scattabou, who's been

2116
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 16: terrific tonight. What about just a simple outpound of the

2117
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 16: scattaboy in the red zone? What about actually using the

2118
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 16: tight end of the seam pattern you drafted Johnson use them?

2119
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 16: What stinking time tonight? This coach has to go. This

2120
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 16: team has to get rid of these guys. I'm telling you,

2121
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 16: if you had a coach with any confidence, why isn't

2122
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 16: a guy like Jim Harbaugh and take let's tell him

2123
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 16: to turn it around from Brandon Steely. Why is it

2124
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 16: that you're bringing good coaches and they do their job.

2125
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 16: Why is it Brian Gable can't figure out anything in

2126
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 16: the red zone. Why is it Brian Gable can't figure

2127
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 16: out how to stop the team at the end of

2128
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 16: the half throwing the ball down the field? Why is

2129
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 16: it that Chane Bowen has to go and rush three

2130
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 16: guys and four guys everywhere instead of bringing the te

2131
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 16: I got a question for you. They bought the house, right,

2132
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 16: and remember that the ball was dropped by Kansas City

2133
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 16: in the fourth quarter. They ran the same play and

2134
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 16: what did they blitzed? Like seven eight guys? They still

2135
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 16: couldn't get to them, right, And.

2136
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ultimately it comes down player. Appreciate your Robbie,

2137
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: the players making the plays, and unfortunately Drew Phillips is

2138
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 3: having a sophomore slumpish start to his second year. And

2139
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 3: it's not all bad because some of it actually is

2140
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 3: in really good position.

2141
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: He makes good plays.

2142
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 3: The interception he had last week on Dak Prescott was

2143
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 3: one of the best played dig coverages that you could

2144
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 3: ever you could ever ask for, and with a diving

2145
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 3: interception to boot. But then you see him out of position,

2146
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 3: you see him making a stupid foul on on an

2147
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 3: on an on a deep ball that Russell Wilson is

2148
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: literally just throwing up in a prayer with that much

2149
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 3: arc on it, so that you do pass interference in factor,

2150
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 3: you you'd be better off better off letting him catch

2151
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 3: that football and tackling him and so that the clock

2152
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 3: runs out.

2153
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: They don't have any get it out at the time.

2154
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: As a player, that's tough.

2155
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: Of course, you're not thinking about that as a player.

2156
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 3: But when you see Russell Wilson launched, you know, loading up,

2157
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 3: I mean on Mahomes loading up.

2158
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,799
Speaker 1: To throw that big ball.

2159
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 3: It's it's get positioned to knock it down, intercept it,

2160
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 3: or make up a high IQ play, and he's a

2161
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 3: young player, and he's struggling in some of these situations

2162
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 3: that Shane Bowen is asking him to put in and

2163
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 3: the other stuff with the coaching in the red zone,

2164
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 3: it is it's the bane of my giant fandom right

2165
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 3: now is watching them in the red zone because the

2166
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 3: play calls aren't making sense and worse, they're not being

2167
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: executed effectively or well. And you're not gonna win many

2168
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: games if you can't score in the red zone. You're

2169
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 3: not gonna have you know, eight, you know, twelve more games.

2170
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: What we saw against the Dallas Cowboys where you're scoring

2171
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 3: from distance.

2172
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 1: The red zone has not been good enough.

2173
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 3: It has been abysmal. It's been one of the worst

2174
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,560
Speaker 3: in the NFL. And you can't win games if you

2175
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 3: can't score in the red zone.

2176
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Just to comment on one thing he said with the

2177
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 2: Chargers and how can they get turn it around? When

2178
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: you know then you talk about the talent on both sides.

2179
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: I do have two words that are important, and the

2180
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: first one is Justin. The second one of Herbert, which

2181
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 2: does make a little.

2182
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 6: Bit of a difference type you look at it, Yeah,

2183
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 6: justin Herbert feels like he's still a young quarterback.

2184
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: But he's got a lot of experience in the league. Now,

2185
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean, what is this, you're five or six or something.

2186
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been around for a minute, and he's

2187
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 3: been through a couple of coaches, and so you sue,

2188
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 3: that's a bad omen for quarterbacks when your coach keeps

2189
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 3: getting fired. But he's got such talent and also he's

2190
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: got a lot of playmakers around him.

2191
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: You talk about that receiving people.

2192
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, with Quentin Johnson, Uh, Keenan Allen came back

2193
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 3: as an old man and he's balling his you know,

2194
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 3: balling like crazy. You know, Najee Harris just went down.

2195
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: But Omarion, Uh, what's Hampton? Hampton, he's a he's a

2196
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,440
Speaker 3: power back. So they have a good.

2197
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: Compliment of what they're doing up front. All right, let's

2198
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 2: go to Kenny and Yonkers. He'll be our final call

2199
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 2: and then we got to wrap things up here. Kenny,

2200
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: what's going on?

2201
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Paul john love that guy?

2202
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 20: Can you hear me?

2203
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, he got you. Kenny? Go ahead? What's up? Dude?

2204
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 20: Pikey.

2205
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 27: I saw you on the plane the other day. I

2206
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 27: called you a legend and you said thank you, and again,

2207
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 27: I love you. Guys, But I got to push back

2208
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 27: a little brother.

2209
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

2210
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 27: You said that Giants fans are impatient. How much more

2211
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 27: patient do we have to be? I've been to the

2212
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 27: last four or five season openers at home. We can't

2213
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 27: get a touchdown today. You said the fans are chanting

2214
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 27: for Jackson dork and I'm with you. I don't want

2215
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 27: the kid to come in until he's ready.

2216
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's ready. That's problem.

2217
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 27: How much how more so Wilson do we have to

2218
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,879
Speaker 27: see to know that he's not ready versus the kid

2219
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 27: that might not be.

2220
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2221
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I see the problem, Kenny, And

2222
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: it's a good question. Appreciate your call is that you

2223
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: see these other young quarterbacks coming in not being quite ready,

2224
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 3: but they figure it out.

2225
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: But some of them don't. Some of them don't, but

2226
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: some of them do. Some of them do. Thank you, Kenny.

2227
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 2: And by the way, I think when Tiki says patients,

2228
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he means overall patients as in ah, well,

2229
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 2: you know the Giants have kind of struggled for much

2230
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 2: in the last ten years. We don't mean patients in

2231
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 2: that way. We understand your lack of patients in that regard.

2232
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not talking about the team, correct, I'm talking

2233
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: about we.

2234
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 2: Said before the season start, and this is what I

2235
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: always go back to. And then Paul, you can get

2236
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 2: your taken and we can take a break and we

2237
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 2: can look forward to next week.

2238
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 1: Here. We talked all off season.

2239
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Had the Giants wanted to be patient here, they weren't

2240
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: gonna put Jackson Dart in there before he is ready. Okay,

2241
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: we all saw what we saw in the preseason. You

2242
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 2: know what we've learned. Preseason doesn't mean anything. Okay, it

2243
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: doesn't mean a darn thing. Look green in the preseason games.

2244
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I cannot be more forceful about that.

2245
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 2: I understand you say, well this isn't working. Let's see

2246
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 2: something different. Well, if you put the kid out there

2247
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 2: before he's ready, you can stunt his overall growth in

2248
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 2: his progress as a quarterback.

2249
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can be You can't be

2250
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: scared of that. No, no, you can't be scared.

2251
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: And you have to believe in your process and that

2252
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 2: he's where he needs to be process to play.

2253
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know where they think he isn't that,

2254
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: But let me positive this for you real quickly.

2255
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 3: Yes, So much of that is the kid is the

2256
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 3: individual kid.

2257
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: Sure, So why was c J. Stroud so successful as

2258
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: a rookie because he believed that he was ready as

2259
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: a rookie? He wasn't? Am I? Am I doing the

2260
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: right thing?

2261
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 3: Am I questioning my Anthony Richardson because I called a

2262
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 3: couple of his games. I don't think he had any

2263
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 3: idea whether he was ready or not. And I mean,

2264
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 3: I'm not even joking. I really mean that Jaden Daniels,

2265
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 3: having called one of his games last year and having

2266
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,879
Speaker 3: and knowing him a little bit, he is so confident

2267
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 3: in himself. I agree a year ago he just knew

2268
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 3: he was going to be successful and if he screwed up,

2269
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 3: so what, I'm thick skinned, I'll figure it out. Jackson

2270
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 3: Dark has that kind of feel to him where he

2271
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 3: just knows that even if he makes mistakes.

2272
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: He's going to be okay.

2273
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 3: He's not gonna get shattered by by negativity of failure

2274
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 3: in this in this environment. And so at some point,

2275
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: and I don't know when that's going to be, there's

2276
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 3: there's going to have to be a real conversation inside

2277
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: the Giants decision making room as it retained to their quarterback,

2278
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 3: whether or not it's we have to move into Jackson

2279
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 3: dark and Russell Wilson just isn't getting it done. He

2280
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 3: was brought here to win football games and he has

2281
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 3: not yet won. He looked great in one game, but

2282
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 3: the two team with the good defenses, he's looked anemic

2283
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 3: and that and that's not that's not okay because that's.

2284
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 1: Not what we brought him here to do. Let me

2285
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: positive counter argument. You want CJ. Strapd go ahead?

2286
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 6: First year went great, he looked awesome, right, Yes, when

2287
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 6: things started going bad in the second year, how he

2288
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 6: bounce back from that?

2289
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it was how is it going this year?

2290
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 3: It's it was interesting and only I only know this

2291
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 3: because I have intimate.

2292
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Knowledge of this. Okay.

2293
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 3: We we did one of their games and we we

2294
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 3: asked him a question.

2295
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: About re establishing.

2296
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 3: The bond with Bobby Slowick, like, oh, you know, you

2297
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 3: had this great bomb with Bobby Slowick early early last

2298
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 3: year and you guys went to the playoffs and you

2299
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 3: were great. You want a Rookie of the Year. It

2300
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 3: sounds like a bad answer, and so and so we

2301
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 3: asked him. It was an innocent question.

2302
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it is.

2303
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 3: And he said something along the lines of, yeah, you know,

2304
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 3: we got to rebuild trust with each other, and it.

2305
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 6: Was like, what what what are you what are you

2306
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 6: talking about?

2307
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 1: How was the trust shattered? Then?

2308
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, but something happened and it is not

2309
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 3: a coincidence that Bobby Slow got fired after the last season,

2310
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 3: fair enough, and so there was a disc There was

2311
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 3: a whether it was a personality clash or I don't know.

2312
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

2313
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 3: I'd be talking out of school, but I knew something

2314
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 3: was off there, and so that last year I can

2315
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 3: explain away for him.

2316
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: And so it hasn't started well this year or the

2317
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: no no, no, But and that's kind of my point.

2318
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 2: I think, if you can be the most confident guy

2319
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 2: in the world, yeah, if you come out and you

2320
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 2: really have failures and struggle.

2321
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: I can mess with your head. True for the most

2322
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: confident guess right.

2323
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think that CJ. Stroud is losing confidence

2324
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:07,520
Speaker 3: because of their struggles.

2325
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 6: I have no idea. I don't talk to him on that.

2326
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 6: I have no idea what his mental capacity. I was

2327
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 6: just pointing out that, yeah, things went really well at

2328
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 6: first when things started going bad.

2329
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: It has seemed to pile up a little bit.

2330
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 2: They did, they did, and three this year though, Paul,

2331
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm sorry, all right, fellas tacky John push

2332
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 2: back on me after I go through this, because.

2333
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: You tell me if you don't like where I'm going.

2334
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 6: I think there's a basic philosophy whenever you have to

2335
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 6: make a decision about putting a rookie quarterback in, or

2336
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 6: for that matter, even a second year quarterback in, first

2337
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 6: you have to decide do you think he's got.

2338
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,480
Speaker 1: A realistic chance to compete?

2339
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 6: But that's on the rookie quarterback, with the young quarterback,

2340
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 6: that has nothing to do with anybody else.

2341
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Okay.

2342
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 6: I believe there are three things that have to happen

2343
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 6: outside of that rookie quarterback that you have to believe

2344
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 6: in before you can put.

2345
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Him in to that pool. Okay, which is number one.

2346
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 6: I believe you have to have consistent pass protection to

2347
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 6: give him a realistic chance to survive.

2348
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: You've got to have.

2349
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 6: A consistent running game to keep defenses honest so they

2350
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 6: can't cheat against the poor kid.

2351
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: They kind of check and check, all right.

2352
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 6: And I also believe the third thing is you have

2353
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 6: to have a reasonable expectation that your wide receiving corp

2354
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 6: can make place for him. I don't think as a

2355
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 6: check I don't think the Giants have checked all three

2356
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 6: of those boxes.

2357
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 3: I agree, you think they have. I think their run

2358
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 3: game has. It's improved. Since it's better, it's much better.

2359
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 3: They didn't have a ton of opportunities today. I think

2360
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 3: their offensive line, as far as pass protection, is significantly

2361
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 3: better than it was.

2362
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: A yeo, I agree.

2363
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 3: And I love Malague Neighbors and Wanda Robinson as a duo.

2364
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is with Theo Johnson.

2365
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna have to go back and rewatch

2366
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 3: this game in particular. I don't even remember him last week.

2367
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 3: If he was if he was in a factor, I

2368
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 3: think he was in.

2369
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 6: Some Yeah, he made a couple of catches last week.

2370
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 6: But again, take my my issue is on these three things.

2371
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,759
Speaker 6: I haven't seen all three of these things games consistent.

2372
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 6: So has it been consistently? That's my litmus test consistency.

2373
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you get consistent, I mean, how many

2374
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: teams have consistency in that every week?

2375
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Only the best teams in football?

2376
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 6: Can you give me three out of four games or

2377
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 6: three out of five games on two of the three,

2378
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 6: can you do.

2379
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: That's fair enough? I'll buy that, Yeah, I will so.

2380
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: So if you're on board with that framework, well.

2381
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 6: Then quite frankly, no, Jackson thought right now is not

2382
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 6: the elixir that needs to be put into a game.

2383
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: And I and I'll close on this be as we

2384
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 2: gotta go. But it might give you a spark, and

2385
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 2: it might be excitement to have him in, and I

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Speaker 2: understand it might help and it might look better. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean Tiky's going to solve all your problems.

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Speaker 1: Of course not, of course not.

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Speaker 3: But I do know he won't build the ball away

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Speaker 3: four times on the tight red area.

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Speaker 1: Damight throw the other team instead.

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Speaker 3: I would I would rather take that then three balls

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Speaker 3: out of the back of the end zone in a

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Speaker 3: QB draw.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back, wrap things up. Look at the next

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Speaker 2: week when we return, Giants again fall to the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: twenty two to nine. They fall the oh to three

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Speaker 2: after the season opener on Sunday Night Football. We'll be

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Speaker 2: right back to wrap things up after this.

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Speaker 7: This is Brian day will, head football coach in New

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Speaker 7: York Giants, and you're listening to radio Home of Big

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Speaker 7: Blue the Fan, WFAN and WFANFM.

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Speaker 2: New York Backyard Giants extra point. After the giants twenty

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Speaker 2: two to nine loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, there

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Speaker 2: now oh to three with the Chargers coming up next

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Speaker 2: week one o'clock. Right back here at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 6: Paul final thoughts, Well, I think John, one thing that

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Speaker 6: I would like to take out of this game is

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Speaker 6: that Brian Burns in the extent interview we did not

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Speaker 6: hear all of it on the postgame here, he said,

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Speaker 6: this is not the same as what we've seen the

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Speaker 6: last two years here. Now he was only here in

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Speaker 6: twenty four, not in twenty three. But he said, I

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Speaker 6: will tell you what's different about this team. I have

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Speaker 6: a much better feeling about their fight and their togetherness

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Speaker 6: than I did last year.

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Speaker 2: Next Lawrence's as too, and he said he feels better

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Speaker 2: about this team because there's more veterans on them that

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Speaker 2: will fight their things.

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Speaker 6: He said, you know it were three and oh that's it.

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Speaker 6: We gotta go win a game on Sunday. And I

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Speaker 6: think the attitude is it's a heck of a lot

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Speaker 6: bet three.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh and three.

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Speaker 6: I think you know Brian Burns, who, as you know,

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Speaker 6: is not shy about speaking his mind. He's one of

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Speaker 6: the leaders in that locker room. He does say, this

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Speaker 6: is a different locker room. This is not the one

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Speaker 6: that felt a lot of defeat last year. So you

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Speaker 6: gotta show it though, Tea.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, they're taking on a three and zero team

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Speaker 3: next week as the LA Chargers just beat the Denver

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Speaker 3: Broncos as well as beating the Kansas City Chiefs in

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Speaker 3: week one and the Las Vegas Rakers in week two,

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Speaker 3: and most people think might be the third best team

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Speaker 3: in the conference. Yeah, I know, but look, they have

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Speaker 3: three really good wide receivers. We already talked about Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 3: we mentioned him earlier, but Quentin Johnson has been great,

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen as an old vet at thirty three, he's

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Speaker 3: been fantastic, and Lad McConkie, who was in running for

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Speaker 3: one of the Rookies of the Year Canadates last year.

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Speaker 3: It is just a great, you know, third person, third

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Speaker 3: wheel for the for the spokes that they have out there.

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Speaker 3: They're also very well coached and very disciplined in both

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Speaker 3: sides of the football. And a lot of that is

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Speaker 3: because of John Jim Harball, who's quirky as hell, but

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Speaker 3: he's interesting. So they got a challenge coming in into

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Speaker 3: town next weekend and they have to play better. They

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Speaker 3: can't afford the mental mistakes, they can't afford the penalties

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Speaker 3: because they had another you know, almost double did you

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Speaker 3: think that eight or seven or eight or whatever it

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Speaker 3: was today? And most importantly, when they get opportunities to

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Speaker 3: make plays, they have to make them. That was the

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Speaker 3: biggest difference in this game today, in this loss of

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They didn't make a big play when they

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Speaker 3: had the chance to.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Jesse Minter, their defensive corner who

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Speaker 2: followed Jim Harborough and Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Is doing a heck of a job. They do not

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Speaker 1: allow anything over the top.

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Speaker 2: You think the Chief's gonna have their two safeties deep

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Speaker 2: or your charges allowed no big play, So something the Giants,

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Speaker 2: we'll have to deal with next week, gentlemen, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you less than a week from today,

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Speaker 2: given the time and the out.

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Speaker 1: See you then.

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