WEBVTT - HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 8

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon stealingation. It's the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Weshuler Matt Williamson with you here for the next three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back on campus on this Thursday. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>you already know the drill Well trou Pennsylvania Saint Vincent

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<v Speaker 2>College Steelers Training Camp. Matt. Today the tenth day of

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<v Speaker 2>camp proper well, the seventh practice for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 2>third one in pads. As we are a week away

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<v Speaker 2>from the Steelers first preseason game, of course at home

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<v Speaker 2>at Akershuer Stadium against the Green Bay Packers. We also

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<v Speaker 2>have a little football tonight, Matt. It's your favorite time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. It's the Hall of Fame game this evening, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah. And again it's the most anti climatic

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<v Speaker 3>thing of the year. But I'm gonna be doing a

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<v Speaker 3>night show at Sharkey's and probably hanging there after, and

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be on and I'll pay attention, and I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to watch Picket, and I kind of want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch Back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, we'll get at least a series

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<v Speaker 2>of Kenny Pickett, formerly of this parish. We'll get at

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<v Speaker 2>least a series I would think of Carson Back, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie third round draft pick of the Cardinals. So

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<v Speaker 2>could be better, could be worse. Yeah, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>As we got the start of the preseason tonight, one

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<v Speaker 2>week away for the Steelers, and so plenty to get

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<v Speaker 2>to here from today, Matt, where we know that the

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<v Speaker 2>guys had practice off yesterday, Monday and Tuesday A practiced

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<v Speaker 2>at a pretty brisk, brisk pace. Pardon me if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Today seemed like it was a little more dialed back,

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<v Speaker 2>not quite as frantic as the first two days we

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<v Speaker 2>saw in past.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say so and it chocked me a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit because they're coming off a day off. First, I

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty toasty here, especially this afternoon. It should getting

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<v Speaker 3>warmer and warmer all day.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all my stuff in the car. I'm worried

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna just be melting into a puddle when I

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<v Speaker 2>get back.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have any like chocolate or anything in there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just a bunch of toilet trees and all it,

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. But I will say, Okay, so they practiced. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a little over the one hundred and ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>or I think they're able to ramp it up. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not don't quote me on that. I'm not one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, I think it was one hundred and twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was ten minutes longer. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not super dowed in on that stuff. But anyway, practice

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<v Speaker 3>I think was a little longer than usual. I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to say over the first hour, Bob Labriola and I

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<v Speaker 3>were hanging in here and it was like, man, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not this is very ota ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In that first hour plus, there was one session

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<v Speaker 3>of team and it was one play, but Rogers threw

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<v Speaker 3>a strike to Metcalf. They were in a three by

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<v Speaker 3>one set, and I found it interesting he was not

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<v Speaker 3>on the far far side. He was the second guy in.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the number two receiver and a three you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three by one and broke over the middle deep down

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<v Speaker 3>field like a deep dig. Rogers drilled it right in

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<v Speaker 3>there in front of the safeties, behind the linebackers. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like, boy, I'd love to see a lot of that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but there's one play. The rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>period was fine, but that first hour or so was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fundamental stuff. A lot of individuals, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>broken up in your group, working on different things, but

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<v Speaker 3>all fundamental things that weren't even team oriented. Then we

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<v Speaker 3>got the uh, the big guys one on ones, which

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<v Speaker 3>has been my favorite thing of camp so far. But today,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we describe just before they've had kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what I've been calling the varsity and the jv both

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<v Speaker 3>in the end zone, and today they combined it onto

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<v Speaker 3>one so you only take one rep at a time,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was half of the work. Yeah, but there

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<v Speaker 3>was more of Rubio and some of those type of

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<v Speaker 3>rookies yeah, yeah, yeah, undrafted guys exactly. And Max did

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<v Speaker 3>not take part in that. I guess he got dinged up.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, unfortunately, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Eccles got dinged up in that period

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<v Speaker 3>that I was discussing the team drill, and looked like

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<v Speaker 3>it was. I don't want to like get people alarmed,

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<v Speaker 3>but it looked kind of bad, you know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he got up and then he went right back down,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he stayed on the field quite a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't heard anything on either one, but they would have

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<v Speaker 3>definitely taken Eccles up immediately if it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>super bad. But who knows. I guess we'll get word

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<v Speaker 3>of that as the evening goes on. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of practice was spirited, you know, the last half

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<v Speaker 3>hour or so, but overall it was pretty dowed back,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, considering day off yesterday and all those

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<v Speaker 3>good things. But we do have a stretch here coming

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<v Speaker 3>of a few in a row, so maybe they're just

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<v Speaker 3>pacing theirselves, and we know this staff looks at it differently.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, I concur with everything you said there. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's cross some of those t's and dot some of

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<v Speaker 2>those eyes. Brandon Eckles was, as Matt mentioned, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>limped off the field after a play out here earlier today.

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<v Speaker 3>He stayed down for a fair amount.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he had a massive rap on his left

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<v Speaker 2>ankle and his day was done. So, you know, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>and I, we are not doctors. We are not privy

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<v Speaker 2>to any inside information. We're not going to just sit

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<v Speaker 2>here and speculate. But I think that that's notable. When

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<v Speaker 2>he leaves practice, not only leaves practice, but leaves with

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<v Speaker 2>a big kind of wrap around his ankle on his

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<v Speaker 2>lower left leg, left ankle.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think at a minimum he's gonna miss some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would think so. And then according to our

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<v Speaker 2>friend Alan Saunders was on the show with us on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday here of Steelers Now, it appeared to be some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of neck or shoulder issue for Maxie Honachure. He

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hung out down there for a while after

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<v Speaker 2>if like, he kind of took his helmet off and

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<v Speaker 2>was hanging out around team drills still, which gives me

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<v Speaker 2>some hope maybe it was just a stinger or something

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<v Speaker 2>minor and they're just being extra cautious at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>He did walk up the hill eventually during practice with

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<v Speaker 2>a trainer, but as we've noted too, I think anytime

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<v Speaker 2>that a guy's not carded off, that's another one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things, along with the Hall of Fame game that

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<v Speaker 2>you and I always laugh about. I think it's encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>news that he was not carted off, that they thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was fine to just walk up the

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<v Speaker 2>hill and go back to the locker room. But Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>after what the first six practices of you know, knocking

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<v Speaker 2>off wood being pretty fortunate in that regard, two guys

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<v Speaker 2>certainly that you don't want to see go down again.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know the extent of it. They could be

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<v Speaker 2>back tomorrow really fine, but just that I think was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the biggest thing that I took from practice

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<v Speaker 2>today was after a few days of good luck in

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<v Speaker 2>that fortune, and you had a couple guys get a

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<v Speaker 2>little banged up today.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we've reiterated many times, this coaching staff is

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<v Speaker 3>really going to stress getting the guys as healthy as

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<v Speaker 3>possible for the marathon that is the season. So I

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<v Speaker 3>would think if there's any what we could call small

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<v Speaker 3>it's not our bodies, you know, small injuries, they are

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep them out for the rest of practice. Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if there's any concerns particularly equals he's a veteran.

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<v Speaker 3>But remember, I mean, Ramsey's not in the mix. So

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<v Speaker 3>those your top two slot options right now are not

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<v Speaker 3>available presumably. But again, we'll get more information on both

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<v Speaker 3>and people will tell stuff and it'll come across. But

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<v Speaker 3>my early thoughts are, yeah, I doubt either is like

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<v Speaker 3>season enders or you know, it's where I are, any

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<v Speaker 3>of that kind of stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So I'm cautiously optimistic that even if those

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<v Speaker 2>guys miss a couple practices, it won't be anything long term. Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>We also today know Eli Heidenreich at practice today. He

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<v Speaker 2>missed Thursday's practice with an undisclosed injury. Not really, not

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<v Speaker 2>really much more, no updates, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a ton of Libo.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about bad timing, man, I mean, it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>like if I had to miss a show while the

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<v Speaker 2>Mars Fighting Planets were.

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<v Speaker 3>Out here exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Eli's alma mater, Mount Libo, was out here today.

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<v Speaker 2>They were one of the other Steelers youth football squads.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one or two of those represented every here day here,

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<v Speaker 2>every single day on campus. It's one of the cool,

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<v Speaker 2>many cool things that the Steelers do.

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<v Speaker 3>Another Libo joe Maganelo was here too, was he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, boy, Joey Manganello.

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<v Speaker 3>Libo is representing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's living back in the area, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's back in Mount and I think left left.

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<v Speaker 2>The Southern California Hollywood dream in his back in his

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<v Speaker 2>hometown and taking things easy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately taking pictures and autographs around him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Yeah, unfortunate for Eli to miss practice, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think especially when when some of the kids from

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<v Speaker 2>his former high school squad were out here. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully that's something that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just Blue Devils represent themselves well today though, and

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<v Speaker 3>we are as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Matt Williamson. There must

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<v Speaker 2>that's in the it's in the bylaws of Steelers Nation

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<v Speaker 2>Radio that there must always be a Mount Lebanon and

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<v Speaker 2>a Mars Grad as hosts on this network.

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<v Speaker 3>We currently have to think I'm doing a night show

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<v Speaker 3>with another Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>We currently have two between yourself and of course Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Aferman and then myself and Chris Danski as the as

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<v Speaker 2>the Mars guys. But yeah, bummer for Hide and Reich again,

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<v Speaker 2>though hopefully that's something that is just minor, just procedural

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<v Speaker 2>and UH, and we'll keep an eye on his status

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<v Speaker 2>going forward. And then kind of last thing on this

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<v Speaker 2>injury and health forefront. Matt Mike McCarthy did speak UH

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<v Speaker 2>today and was asked about Joey Porter Junior and Jaalen

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<v Speaker 2>Ramsey and their kind of time frame to return to practice.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that there's no high concern about either, but

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a time frame for their return. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's kind of a status quo, but just a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of anytime the head coach uh, you know, uh

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<v Speaker 2>addresses it directly, I think it's it's worthy of mentioning.

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<v Speaker 3>Here and again slam on that wood like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, like for where we sit, what ten

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<v Speaker 3>practices are ten days in ten practice, not seven ten days.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll take it from a health perspective, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of where this team is overall, I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>in pretty nice shape.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you this. When you start to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Think is the only one seems like it could be

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<v Speaker 3>a while, could be a little yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what though, when you start to see

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<v Speaker 2>some of these guys in the secondary continuing to go

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<v Speaker 2>down or just not be available.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems so deep and now all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time too for a Santa Samuel Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>for Dayalen Everett, here's your opportunity. Here's your opportunity. Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great out there. Let's see what you got.

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<v Speaker 3>Great point.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of I think the the moving and

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<v Speaker 2>shaking from today, if you will. Yeah, and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>again not some of the greatest updates that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear, But I think not time to panic fotball

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right. This is just the way it goes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a matter of if. It's a matter of win.

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<v Speaker 2>As the former head coach would have said, injuries are

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<v Speaker 2>as much a part of football as blocking and tackling.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately we all know that that's the case. Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty of of ground that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>cover today. I did want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>two just kind of notable news stories around the league.

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<v Speaker 2>The first being the Washington Commanders have signed wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>Stefon Diggs.

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<v Speaker 3>Long overdue. I mean, they've been rumored to be linked

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<v Speaker 3>to Brandon Ayut quite a bit. Diggs is from that area.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes a lot of sense as well. I still

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<v Speaker 3>think he's got plenty in the tank. Not as dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>as he was, but more of a chain mover, big

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<v Speaker 3>time professional route runner. I know he has some off

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<v Speaker 3>the field stuff and all that, but I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>good for a young quarterback. Showed that with Drake May.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the reports, I mean, these are just

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<v Speaker 3>things you read and heard, were that he was really

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<v Speaker 3>influential in a good way to a young Patriot receiver room.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got to get a lot of young guys outside

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<v Speaker 3>of McLaurin. But more than anything, I mean, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think people were talking enough about how poor the skill

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<v Speaker 3>positions were with a commander. I mean, low end running backs,

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<v Speaker 3>low end tight ends outside of McLaurin, some real reach.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was very.

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<v Speaker 2>Needed, Yes it was. And you're trying to make life

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<v Speaker 2>easier on Jayden Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>Not halfy yeahthing, not ask him to do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>One year, ten million dollar deal. We're worth up to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve million with some incentives. Last year he cut eight had.

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<v Speaker 3>A hard time finding the numbers, That's what I right though.

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<v Speaker 2>That's via Rapaport and Schefter. Last year Cut eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>passes little over one thousand yards four touchdowns and helped

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<v Speaker 2>that Patriots team win the AFC and make it to

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl at Stefan Diggs, now back to his

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<v Speaker 2>hometown his home area, of course, played college football at

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Maryland. I meant to send this to

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<v Speaker 2>you last night. I was scrolling the old Twitter feed

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<v Speaker 2>and you know how there's those accounts that are like

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<v Speaker 2>old time football or classic college football, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was one and they posted a like a

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<v Speaker 2>three minute highlight package and it was twenty twelve. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Maryland in Morgantown against WU and Tavon Austin had

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<v Speaker 2>like seven hundred yards and seven touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was a phenom in college his year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the eleventh overall pick I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>Stefan Diggs had like five hundred yards and five touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a fun clip of, you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>those two going back and forth on a on a

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<v Speaker 2>college football Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was stopping either one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they were not.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I still think he's a high quality number

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<v Speaker 3>two though.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, yeah, yeah, if he he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>number one anymore, but no, like if if Terry mccluuran

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<v Speaker 2>was still Terry McLaurin, then that would be a perfect edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but they're still They've gotten much better with

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<v Speaker 2>the U with the addition of Diggs needed and then Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Some big news with a little bit of a local

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<v Speaker 2>tie here, Aaron Donald has officially worked out for the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams as a potential comeback looms. He had a workout

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<v Speaker 2>with his former employer.

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<v Speaker 3>So I found that interesting. It's like, I wonder what

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<v Speaker 3>that workout entailed. Is the workout just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it more of a physical you know? Like that that.

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<v Speaker 3>Would totally add up. You know, you should you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to take Let's just make sure that you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're still healthy enough and well enough to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I envisioned the workout being like the D line coach,

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<v Speaker 3>the de coordinator and McVeigh while he's out there in

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<v Speaker 3>shorts and T shirt saying please come back, please come back,

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<v Speaker 3>please come back. I don't care what you do, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's get your vitals.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make sure you're healthy and can pass a physical year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think there's story about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Walking and breathing right, yeah, please come back. You're still

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<v Speaker 3>breathing right, come on back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be crazy. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna happen. I thought it's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 3>every step of the way. I mean, if you're him,

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<v Speaker 3>there's only two negatives, and one of them is just

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<v Speaker 3>you're just delaying your Hall of Fame time. But you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go either way.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not like the Philip Rivers delay delay, not

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<v Speaker 2>a five year delay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess you could tarnish your unbelievable legacy if

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<v Speaker 3>you come out in your average or yeah, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do any he ends up with two sacks this year

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. But I don't think it will

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<v Speaker 3>even be a full time player. Their other defensive tackles

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<v Speaker 3>are good, right, you know, I would think he's out

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<v Speaker 3>there and situational, closing out games, playoffs, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 3>him fresh. It's pretty appealing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very appealing. Just turn thirty five a couple months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a spring chicken anymore. But he's he's not long

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<v Speaker 2>in the two either. There's still obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>high level guys in the trenches at his age in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the NFL. So yeah, man, that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Be the Odell Mike Evans draft class.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeahha, which is you know, kind of be

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting to keep an eye on this story in

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<v Speaker 2>what all kinds of signs are pointing to the return

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<v Speaker 2>of one of the best defensive players, point blank period

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<v Speaker 2>in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt, and with all respected Joe Green. If I

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<v Speaker 3>had one defense tackle, I think that's my pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell anyone Are those the two those? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else in the conversation, like sap or No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Lilly.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's a little I mean, that's going back too far.

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<v Speaker 3>I always kind of start things with the Super Bowl era.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was considered the best before Green arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to say I don't know as much

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<v Speaker 3>about him, never saw him play. Not a Pittsford guy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's others, don't get me wrong, but Donald's the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>line is Aaron Donald's as good as any tackle that

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<v Speaker 3>have ever roamed the earth, without doubt. If you call

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<v Speaker 3>JJ Watt a tackle, I guess you could put it

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<v Speaker 3>in a conversation. In a conversation too, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm building a four man D line, I think

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<v Speaker 3>JJ's on it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that'd be a tough task to do. You'd almost

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<v Speaker 2>have to break it into like twentieth century and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century, because yeah, we're starting to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>point man, where you know, like my my friends and

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<v Speaker 2>I were having that conversation like a week or two ago, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would have been fun to you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of those conversations that you I think would have would

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<v Speaker 2>have been at the forefront and the very involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, at what point do we now, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you consider the modern era? You know, because like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we've been.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about thousands break point.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about the modern era of sports now

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<v Speaker 2>from what feels like twenty years you know, since around

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<v Speaker 2>like when Ben was a rookie, right, and Manning and

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<v Speaker 2>Brady and those guys were you know, on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you're right. I think now I bet

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<v Speaker 2>your your group.

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<v Speaker 3>Of buddies would look at the different than my group

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<v Speaker 3>of buddies. Yeah, just from the age difference, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We said we said about nineties ish, like some point

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineties to now is probably moder But you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're getting close a few years away from

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<v Speaker 2>the point where you kind of can start drawn all

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<v Speaker 2>in sports history of the twentieth century in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century, because we're about to be three decades into

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<v Speaker 2>the into the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this sounds makes me sound really old, but

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<v Speaker 3>like I always found it funny when I would hear

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<v Speaker 3>something on DVE for the first time, being like Guns

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<v Speaker 3>and Roses is classic rock? Now it's right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it blows me when I hemember when Apathite came out.

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<v Speaker 2>When I hear like Blink one eighty two and Green

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<v Speaker 2>Day and an Oasis, So.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that's new. That's brand new stuff to me, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that just came out like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind, Like, oh no, not the nineties music

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up. That can't be classic rock, not yet. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's still Zeppelin and the Beatles, baby, and how about

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<v Speaker 2>the Rolling Stones? Give me some can't you hear me

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<v Speaker 2>knock it on the on the dve here?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like the seventies are hard to compare to now, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean, it's almost every sport court looks

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<v Speaker 3>so different. But I think this league is changing, just

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<v Speaker 3>like the world. And just like you know, the Internet

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<v Speaker 3>age from ninety two to ninety three isn't as big

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<v Speaker 3>a difference as twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. Correct,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean things happened so quick in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's a very good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the way they play and what they stress, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, running back and yeah, I know we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about like Jonathan Taylor and Bijon, but like how important

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<v Speaker 3>running backs are compared the way back when, And I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there's just so different that it's almost unfair to

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<v Speaker 3>compare Marino and Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, it's almost unfair to compare me

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<v Speaker 2>and Joe Green and Aaron Donalds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just and that to me is I think

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<v Speaker 2>something that's going to be a lot of fun is

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<v Speaker 2>the years and years and decades roll by as you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of parse through the history of all these rich

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<v Speaker 2>sports that we have in this country and and all

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<v Speaker 2>the just outstanding talent that has played played in them

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<v Speaker 2>over the decades. Let's get to our first break of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Plenty more ground to cover, you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the five o'clock hour. Of course, will open with your

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<v Speaker 2>tweets in the bonus hour, so make sure you get

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<v Speaker 2>those in if you want to get involved. Absolutely at

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<v Speaker 2>little future Hall of Famers and with the Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame game tonight, who's going to be in the next

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame class. There's some Steelers that are up

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<v Speaker 2>and in eligible, and maybe who are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>another beautiful day here. Looked like there was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>some potential. Matt and I we're texting late last night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is as friends do. And Matt was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you see in this weather stuff, like, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do if there's a big storm in practice. I

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<v Speaker 3>Thing I don't know. It was a big unknown to me.

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<v Speaker 2>We've started to discover this new Mike McCarthy training camp

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<v Speaker 2>and everything that comes with it. The one thing we

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<v Speaker 2>still don't know is if they have terrible weather here

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<v Speaker 2>one day and they moved to the new indoor recreational

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<v Speaker 2>facility here on campus, which looks gorgeous by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I don't know inviting.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we are. In the past we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been, but they've just been doing a little walk

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<v Speaker 2>through in a tiny little gym. Now they'd have a

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<v Speaker 2>little more room, so it would at least be closer

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<v Speaker 2>to a practice, But I'm not sure if we're invited

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<v Speaker 2>it would also depend on the timing because we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to be in here doing the show. But regardless, we

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<v Speaker 2>might have to cross that bridge at some point, but

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to today as what looked like potentially some

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<v Speaker 2>nasty weather held off. And that's been the case pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much through through this week and a half so far, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a little kind of light rain storms at times,

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<v Speaker 2>but we haven't had that kind of a holy Cow

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<v Speaker 2>lookout type day that we get weatherwise out here a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's kind of where I was going with it is.

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<v Speaker 3>When I I sent the text, I was like a

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<v Speaker 3>half hour out coming in from the South Hills, and

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the entire trip was a lot really rain,

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<v Speaker 3>heavy rain on the way here, and I'm like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way they're practicing and labs right back, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, they're gonna be right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, practices at eleven. Don't be a wool sie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and practice eleven on the field. I'm like, I meant,

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<v Speaker 3>is it pouring there or not? I mean, like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought I kind of made it. I assumed that there

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<v Speaker 3>was some Percis.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a busy man. He doesn't have time for you

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<v Speaker 2>to be asking weather questions all right, because I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Here and it was just me and him, And then

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, what'd you think practice was a problem? Like

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<v Speaker 3>it poured the whole way here. It took me way

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<v Speaker 3>longer to get here than expected, you know, like the traffic,

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 3>it slowed traffic to that point. So he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we hardly got anything, so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, right, we'll keep it well.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was an easy decision.

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<v Speaker 2>The hopefully, hopefully we won't have to cross that bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not counting my chickens counting my hens just yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but hopefully we won't have to cross that bridge and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll continue to have good fortune in the weather department. Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>tonight is the Hall of Fame game, and with that

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<v Speaker 2>some Hall of Fame conversation that I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I didn't click on it, but I was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty excited about this real quick. On the Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame game, I am curious. Are there any other rookies

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<v Speaker 3>of note that played tonight? I'm hoping they do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals have some guys on a sea. Carolina has some

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<v Speaker 3>guys I want to see, mostly draftable players.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we don't need to look into it now.

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<v Speaker 3>We can chat about it tomorrow. But I am curious.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anyone of note that plays the first quarter? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that is that is always important to note.

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<v Speaker 2>We know the two quarterbacks are or at least interesting. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll probably have to wait and see with

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<v Speaker 2>h With some of the others.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we're not gonna see Jeremiah Love and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know exactly right, Matt. Two fun articles caught my eye

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<v Speaker 2>today in regards to the Hall of Fame that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to discuss with you. The first from a from

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Bill Barnwell, who we're a fan of of ESPN.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he does this every year and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically goes through every team in the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>and talks about who's in the Hall of Fame, who's

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<v Speaker 2>on the cusp, and who's kind of like, keep it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You're early in your career, but if you continue doing yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the right track.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, for example, if you're up for it, I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to go through all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do it, Yeah, say we got time.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. Just might.

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<v Speaker 2>This will probably take us two segments, but that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't a time to talk about Steeler wise practice

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff today, so I think we could get dig

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<v Speaker 3>into it and the honor the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it, And honestly, some of these are will

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty quick conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because I think every team has a name,

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<v Speaker 3>but that doesn't mean everyone's going.

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<v Speaker 2>And some teams have five or six, but some teams

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<v Speaker 2>only have one. Right the Arizona Cardinals. Man, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty clear cut on the cusp. Buddha Baker,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it up, Trey.

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<v Speaker 3>McBride, Yeah, I mean he's got to keep it up

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, sure, especially tight ends can't have short stints. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but boy, a nice start for him. Voodoo's got a

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<v Speaker 3>better case than people think. I mean, like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>talk to people in the know or the real film watchers,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people are like I Boodha Baker was

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<v Speaker 3>a chief this whole time movie talk about him was

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<v Speaker 3>a Hall of Fame. Sure, you know he's been buried

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<v Speaker 3>in the desert, you know, Liken Casino.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a mock at ten fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Billy Batts or something.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I think that's well said by you. I

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<v Speaker 2>also think too, like there's if Alan Fanica played his

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<v Speaker 2>entire career in Arizona for the Cardinals, wouldn't help. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see. I kind of look at it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he would have gotten in a lot quicker because

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be like, we gotta get this Cardinal. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had anyone who's been notable all the Steelers. They've got

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>all these guys in I do good. I think there's

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that human element to where you get to Thomas, like

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Joe Tom. I was just gonna say, when you get

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<v Speaker 2>some of these Cleveland Browns or some of these Arizona Cardinals, Larry, Larry,

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 2>these Jets are now matter. I think like the NFL

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>is again the Hall, these Hall of Fames are museums

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport. They want every team represented as much.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you're bet they're liking that the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 3>are an issue tonight. Absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>If if you your point is correct, if Buddha Baker

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<v Speaker 2>had played for the Chiefs or the Rams and was

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<v Speaker 2>a super Bowl champion or maybe a multiple super Bowl champion,

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 2>he would definitely be going. But I also think it

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<v Speaker 2>can work the other way to where it's like, in

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<v Speaker 2>the last what fifteen years, we've put one Arizona Cardinal

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<v Speaker 2>in Larry Fitzgerald. Let's get another one in there.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm. And and again, Larry's too good a player

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<v Speaker 3>for this conversation. Yes, you don't have to make the

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<v Speaker 3>argument hard with him, but you could definitely if he

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<v Speaker 3>was a ninety percent of what he was and there

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<v Speaker 3>was an actual debate for bunks the Hall of Fame folks,

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<v Speaker 3>you could be like, well, he didn't play with anybody

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<v Speaker 3>good too, especially his quarterbacks that weren't named Kurt Warner.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of the Los Angeles Rams, the Los Angeles Rams

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<v Speaker 2>in Miles Garrett, Matthew Stafford, Davante, Adams, keep it Up,

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<v Speaker 2>Pooka Nkua.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that Adams is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would put him in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the lock in the in category. The other two

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely another.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not really a category for him though, because keep

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<v Speaker 3>it up probably ship is sailed. I might have one

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<v Speaker 3>more good.

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Keep it Up is like if you're in your mid twenties. Yeah, yeah, liked, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Pooka Nakoupa.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, but Adams will have a strong case. Garrett

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<v Speaker 3>and Stafford are in.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what, another big year in a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>ring this year because you could put Davante Adams over

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<v Speaker 2>the top. Garrett and Stafford are definitely there. San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers in Trent Williams, Mike Evans, Christian McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think those are three.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Warners into.

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<v Speaker 2>On the cut. So there's a lot here for the Niners.

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<v Speaker 2>Bet On the Cusp, Kittle and Warner.

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<v Speaker 3>I think both would go if they didn't play another snap.

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<v Speaker 2>Work to do Nick Bosa and Brock.

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<v Speaker 3>Party a lot of work to do for both, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of work.

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<v Speaker 3>I love.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on that path for a while, but his

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years haven't been quite the same. And Party, I.

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Just don't he'd have to do a lot.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I think credit to him that he has become a

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>much better quarterback than most thought written. I wouldn't have

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>written him down. He's never been considered a top five

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>guy of his era, and I don't think he ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Will have active quarterbacks He would be like my twentieth

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<v Speaker 3>choice of Hall of Fame worthiness.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Agreed and then last, but certainly not at least in

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the NFC West, the defending Super Bowl champions Seattle Seahawks.

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 2>They just have to keep it up. Jackson Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>Jigba and Devon.

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<v Speaker 3>Witherspoon, Yes, Witherspoon's real far away.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Just missing out, Cooper Cup, Leonard Williams.

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I say, Leonard Williams, they deserve mentioned. Ye.

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they're both in the Hall of really good.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they'll be finalists.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, like a Nickimn worry could potentially

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it's only been one year. Gray Zabel, it's only been

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 2>one year, but that's still so weird.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I need to at least see, you know, four

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 3>or five years worth before you start talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Haul Atlanta Falcons.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it up.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Bijon Robinson, no question, no question, no question. If he

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<v Speaker 2>has another three or four years like the last three

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that he just had.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Me as good at opening three years as any running

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 3>back has in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Work to do. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and the offensive

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>guard Chris Linstrom.

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Linstrom's got a shot.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>He has made four straight Pro Bowls.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's pretty down good.

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Pitts has I don't know, I don't think. I don't

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>agree with Pitts.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 3>London would have to do it. I love London, but

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>it's just boy, there's so many good receivers. If he's

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 3>the eighth best receiver in the league right now, that's amazing.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 3>But boy, and you can't put the eighth best receiver.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>In Carolina Panthers. Uh. Just three mentioned in the work

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>to do category Teed McMillan, j C. Horn, and Derek Brown.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh so far away though. I yeah, Teest played one year.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Test played one year, so I guess you. His one

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>year was offensive Rookie of the Year, So I get

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it right. Those other two, Derek Brown and jac Horn,

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I think are great players I'd love to have on

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>my team, but I don't know if they're gonna have

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>eight more years out of it. Yeah, the Saints on

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the CUSP Cam Jordan just missing out Alvin Kamara, Yes.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 3>And yes, I think that's fair. I think Jordan probably

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>just misses out too.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>But you know what if he has another nine or

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>ten SAX season like he just.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Did, and that blew me away when I saw he

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 3>had ten and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>think he's I think he's some pretty good numbers.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's one that you know, when we get to

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>February March and we're kind of on that come down

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>from the from the season and the playoffs and everything,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we might have to revisit that and see the type

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>of year that he had and how that affects his

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame candidacy, because he might define on the

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>cusp before me.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Right now, Kamar a great career. I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>need it just short.

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Same Tim bay Bucks, keep it up. Christian Wurf's no

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>doubt work to do, Antoine Winfield Junior.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess Veya has no shot. Long shot he has.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>He has likely to miss out Chris Godwin Junior and

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and Veya. He also has a baker there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you needed to mention him the worst

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>without a doubt, Yeah he could.

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>He's give me five more years's easy one.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>One of the best tackles of his generation, if not

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the best. Into the NFC North Matt Williams and Chicago Bears.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Keep it up.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Joe Thoony making a strong case. I mean he's I

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you know this, but he every year

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>he's been in the league, his team has won the division.

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is nuts.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 3>He won that first ever O Line.

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Award Protector of the Year.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 3>He's got rings, he's got I mean, his resume on

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>paper is really really good. I think he's in.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Three straight first Team All pros as you mentioned those

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>individual awards and in those Super Bowl rings.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Certainly three time in a row straight.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Three time in a row First Team All Pro.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he might go already work.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>To do Jalen Johnson, Colson Lovelan, Caleb Williams, Darnell Wright.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 3>We're way too hitd on all those guys.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Way too early on all those guys. But I tell

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you what, Darnell Wright might be the uh he could

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>be the finest right tackle in the league here whenever

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Lane Johnson sides to hang them up.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 3>That's a fantastic young corps. But that's a long time

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>away for Hall of Fame stuff.

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, Detroit Lions have a keep it up and work

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to do listed here. Keep it up is I'm on

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Ross Saint Brown, Jamiir Gibbs, Aiden Hutchinson, and Pennay Soul.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Now say Soul better be keep it up? Okay.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I think those guys are all you know, if they

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>have another four or five years, like they've had, they'll

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.719
<v Speaker 2>be firmly in conversations agreed work to do. Brian Branch,

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Jack Campbell, Kirby Joseph and Jared Goff. I understand why

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>he's putting a lot of these quarterbacks in here, but

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I just don't. Yeah, this era is so loaded with quarterbacks.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Again, if you're a lifetime eleventh to fifteenth best quarterback,

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>and that's not a Hall of Famer.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And let's let's not forget too that Philip Rivers just

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>reset reset his clock. And so we're gonna have Philip

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Rivers down the line too, along with Yeah, a lot

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of these guys.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Now it's tough, this is true of all generations. But

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 3>like these guys are gonna put up. You know, I

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>big Jared Goff has a million lifetime passing yards and

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 3>he will when he retires. I mean some of them,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>some voter or you know, ever trying to get him

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 3>in gonna be like he's sixth all time in passing yards, Like, well, yeah,

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 3>but that's because he played in this era. And you know, correct,

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I think doesn't mean he's better than Bradshaw.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Correct. Green Bay Packers on the CUSP Michael Parson's work

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to do Tucker.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Craft a lot. I mean it's really young. We love

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>both players, but Craft, I mean he's had one good year.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Mica has got a strong case. I mean, just just

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 3>keep it up. I mean you're one of the elites.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, just keep it up. And I think he's gonna

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>have a very strong case. Yeah, Minnesota Vikings on the

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>CUSP justin Jefferson just missing out. Harrison Smith.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Smith.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Harrison Smith to me is hall of really good.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Hall are really really good. Yeah, really important for the Vikes.

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Great career.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Like when it's all said and done, I think Jefferson

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 3>will end up in something catastrophic to have to have

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>his career. And as as you like, I think he

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>averages the most receiving yards per game in NFL history.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I know he did this time last Wow, and he

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 3>went backwards a little chase might have passed him. Uh.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>And Harrison Smith is you know he's one of those guys.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, standing player, Hall of really good.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 3>But the easiest.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably the year or two after he retires.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>They may even retire his number. And I would totally

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>get it.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's let's round out the the NFC here

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>in this conversation in the East, the Cowboys keep it

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>up guard, Tyler Smith, work to do, Seedee Lamb, George Pickens,

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Dak Prescott, Quinn Williams, Tyler Booker.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean again, a rookie guard, I'm not putting

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>on the list tough. But the other ones, yeah, they

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>got a lot to do, but they really got to

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 3>keep it up. Smith might be the best guard in

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the league. But again, I need six more years. Yes, yeah, yes,

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 3>easier said than done.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>New York Giants missing out is the only category listed

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>here for the g Men, and it's Brian Burns and

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Odell Beckham Junior.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Odell had a really strong case too, Like there was

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 3>a point where he was just Jeffers.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>To me, to me, Him and lev Bell are a

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>very similar conversation.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, best at what they did.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>For a while, for three or four years, they were

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>box office. They were the best of what they were doing.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>They looked like they were on the fast track to

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame. Yes, and then they fell off

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>a cliff.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like you know, I play a lot of dynasty

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 3>like Odell was easily the most valuable dynasty commodity his

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 3>first couple of years in the league. And if it wasn't.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 3>I was on the air a lot back then, but

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Ab and Julio to me, were clearly the top two receivers.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 3>If you liked one better than the other, I would

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 3>get it. But I thought Odell was the only one

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>that's even in their conversation, yes, and maybe even their tiers.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>And he was like a wild and he was like

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty three twenty four when he was doing yeah.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, just a lot likely. I think he can't

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 3>put him in, No.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>You can't. You've got to have the second half of

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>It's it's kind of similar to like a debo conversation.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, James Harrison when he was when he was

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>at his peak, My goodness, lookout.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Like never forget how good he was. But that doesn't

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 3>mean you're Hall of Fame.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>But the front end and the back end, you can't

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>have those drastic cliffs and valleys.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Odell was ninhing for six years.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly right. Philadelphia Eagles, Matt, oh, they got a

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>bunch Lane Johnson. I think I think that's a pretty

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>easy one.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Uh, maybe they don't have a bunch of Kelsey and

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>some of them have already moved.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure like Kelsey. Definitely he's going, you know, like Fletcher Cox.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>I think we talked about him a couple of weeks ago.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>He'll have a chance. Seeing the keep it up category here,

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>He's got Quinon Mitchell and Jalen Hurts. I just Jalen Hurts,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>what are we doing?

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>No chance, no chance, no chance. Quinyon Mitchell. Absolutely, it's

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>been very early in his career.

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.399
<v Speaker 3>But and they start to his career and I would

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 3>put the gene equally to Mitchell. So you're gonna, you know,

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 3>put both one of them. I'd put both.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>He's got the work to do category as well. For

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the Eagles. Saquon Barkley, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Cooper, de Jene,

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Grenard than all the different than the rest of it. Yeah,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>if he has another great season, he could be really

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>he could be there.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Of active running backs if they all never played another snap.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I think Henry and McCaffrey go, no doubt, and then

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Saquon's got the next good case. But he's a little

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 3>behind them in lifetime achievement in terms of the Yeah.

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>His absolute best was better than those two, I think,

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 2>but they I would say they just did it for

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>a longer.

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and none of them are going to like approach

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 3>emtts Smith's numbers. I mean that that's no one's such

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>in those numbers.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Finally, Matt in the NFC, last and maybe least the

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Washington Commanders work. Can't think of anyone work to Tunsil.

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And then they put Jayden Daniels on here too is

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 2>way too early, maybe, but boy, and then really good

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>but missing out Terry mclaurd and Steffan Diggs. I think

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that's fair.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think McLaury I forgot about Diggs of being

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 3>on the team. At least he Diggs will be like

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 3>a finalist. McLaurin, I don't think will.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 2>But he's a Commander's Hall of Honor guy Yea.

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.479
<v Speaker 3>Without a doubt, Tunsel was one of the absolute best

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 3>offensive lineman in the league. He sure is, but I

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know that everyone looks at him that way.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, they need to start winning some games there in

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Washington falls for all those guys sakes. Let's take a

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>look at the AFC West when or they We'll start

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>with the a f C West when we returns, take

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>a look at the a f C. Where do the

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Steelers fall in this exercise. They sure do, and we'll

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.280
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0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 2>we are rolling through a little future Hall of Famer

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 2>primer for each of the thirty two teams across the

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>National Football League. We did the NFC in the previous segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we turn our attentions to the AFC, and we

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<v Speaker 2>begin with the West and the Denver Broncos. Keep it up,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Bonito, Quinn Minors Pat certain pat certains, I wouldn't, certainly.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Miners is one of the absolute best

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>guards in the league. But that's a longevity position. Certains

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 3>might be in a category above that. I don't know

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 3>that he's like in if he quit right now, but

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 3>you two more more years?

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean he is defensive player of the year.

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 2>What I think Stefan Gilmour the only other one of

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a defensive back in the last ten to fifteen.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Years, I think sins Troy. Yeah, So, like Benito's great,

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>but I mean.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he belonged to the same same with Miners,

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>right right right? And then work to do. Zach Allen,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Jalen wattle Bow Knicks. I almost want to stop reading

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>these quarterbacks names on here. Yeah, bo Nix isn't even

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>in that stratus yet. No, but Zach Allen and Jaylen

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Waddle work to do.

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like Allen's a really nice player too. Every

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>team would love to have them, but he's not Joe

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 3>green In.

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 2>This is the Hall of Fame, right, we're talking about it, right,

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs, they're gonna have a double Matt three locks,

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones, Travis Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that I think they're all locks.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they're all absolute locks. You could put the

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 2>head coach on that list for locks. Two. In terms

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of Andy Reid.

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if Pagnola's lock could be.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Might be, Yeah, keep it up, Creed Humphrey.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I say Creed's got a real strong case now, getting.

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>There early, but work to do. Trey Smith.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's fair.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 3>Okay, those are the kind of I guess we already talked.

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Rams McDuffie comes to mind, though. I mean, he needs

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of work, but I think he should be

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 3>on a list like this.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>He's got the rings too.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Las Vegas Raiders.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Keep it up, Max Crosby, work to do, Brock Bauers

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and Tyler Linderbaum.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I think that nailed it. I do. I

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't put Kirk Cousins on.

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, he's in the Hall of Good but yeah, yeah,

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>but no, not not in this era of just absolute

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 2>stud quarterbacks.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, at least the quarterbacks he put on that

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>really have no shot to have more football in front

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.280
<v Speaker 3>of him. Cousin's gonna be a backup. Yes, his resumes

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 3>are written.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, La chargers in Khalil Mack.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no doubt they make him waity years.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, I don't think he's the

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>absolute slam dunk that he was for a long time

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in his career, but he's.

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Gonna, but he's gonna go.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna, yeah, work to do Joe Alt, Justin, Herbert

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Rashawn Slater.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I think that's all fair. Those tackles need

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>to do a lot more.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>They do, and Herbert needs to have some postseason success. Yeah,

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and then he has.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Ten years of being a top five quarterback. That's how

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 3>you's get the car in case.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then just missing out hall of really good

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Derwin James Junior. I agree with that.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he could go.

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 2>He couldn't.

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean he said he The new league has helped

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 3>him a lot as being the Kyle Hamilton slot. I

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 3>mean he's became I think the highest paid safety or

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 3>second highest face safety coming off a great year, so

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't write him off. It's just a Hall very good.

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>He's got a chance to finish his career real strong.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 2>AFC South on the CUSP.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Side, note Keenan Allen, He's not with a team, but

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>he was associated with the Chargers.

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be an interesting case.

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say no.

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Hall of really good.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I would put Davonte Adams in over him,

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 3>put Evans in over him.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Guys are all the second without Evans. Better go and

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>not have to wait very long.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Evans is an easy one. Yeah, yeah, I'm just

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 3>thinking about guys are drafted at the same time.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>All right, Depending on your answer from this, I might

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>have producer Justin cut us off the air so that

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the listeners don't come for us with torches and pitchforks.

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Hines Ward or Keenan Allen.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that are pretty equal. Both are really good to

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 3>what they did. I don't think either should go. I

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>guess I'll give a Ward the nod because of the blocking.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 3>But Allen was more consistently productive.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, maybe people can put their torches and

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>pitchforks away and the same here. AFC South Houston Texans

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 2>on the CUSP. Matt and I I think have been

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>banging the drum for this guy of being one of

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the most underrated players of his generation. It's Danil Hunter,

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the edge rusher.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I think he'll go.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>He's still only thirty one, dude.

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>He came in the league juju young. Yeah, you know,

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>like like I drink.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>If you would ask his age, I'd have been like

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty four.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Right, He's played a long time. He's got over one

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 3>hundred sacks. He's still playing at a really high level

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and making a fortune. I don't know if he could

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>hang it up today. Like, if he don't hope he

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't blow out his knee in week one and is

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 3>never the same, he probably doesn't go. But if give

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 3>me two more good years, he's gonna be hard to

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 3>keep out.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>He is currently thirteenth in the NFL in career sacks,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 2>thirteenth all time. Right right, every player ahead of him

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 2>is either in the Hall of Fame or a lock

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 2>to get there.

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna go. He'll probably finish tenth or something or

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 3>eighth or something.

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, he has one hundred and fourteen and a

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 2>half sacks in his career.

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 3>A hundred used to be like close to the magic number,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 3>and I think Cam Hayward's at like ninety eight.

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 2>They're saying the magic number now is one forty. But

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't think he needs to get the

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>one for I don't either. I think one thirty would

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 2>do it for him.

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd say one hundred is not a lock anymore.

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean it would be for Cam or like a

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 3>defensive tackle.

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>But all ten players in NFL history with one hundred

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and forty or more sacks are in Canton, which is

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 2>which is not surprising. If he keeps up a decent pace,

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 2>he could get there.

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>In two years and still be what's still thirty three. Yeah,

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it's nuts because he could be that situational clowney pass

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>rusher late in his life to pick up another twenty cheapies,

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, on or.

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Keep it up for the Houston Texans Will Anderson Junior

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and Derek Stingley Junior, Yes, and you think yes, And yes,

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean if it wasn't for Miles Garrett, I Will

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Anderson Junior would have been Defensive Player of the Year

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 2>last year. He's still so young, yeah, and got a

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of good football in front of him, work to do,

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Kaylen Bullock, Nico Collins, c J. Stroud, Kamari Lassiter.

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Niko's the only one I would have listed to that group,

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 3>and he has a lot of.

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Work to do so too, And those other guys are

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 2>good players, They're real good players. And I guess, hey,

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 2>if Stroud gets back back to what we saw his

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 2>rookie year, maybe we'll be having the conversation with him

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 2>here in another year or two, because he's still so young,

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 2>but not from what he's done the last two.

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, really, he's not much different than like bo

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Nick's being listed, except.

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 2>For maybe a better rookie season. Exactly right, but right,

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a very good point by you.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Voters would laugh at you at those guys.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis cults In, Quentin Nelson, probably the finest guard of

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>his of his generation, work to do, Sauce Gardner, Jonathan Taylor,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Warren.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Warren's too early. Taylor's having a really strong start to

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 3>his career.

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, a couple more good years and he'll be

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>in the conversation.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Slightly behind, like a Bijeon just signed a deal. Slightly

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>behind Bijeon. I would mention Buckner though, okay, category well, you.

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Know there's the just miss out category, which is to

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Forrest Buckner, which I think that's fair.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that's fair. I think he's like a Cam

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Lifetime Ring of Honor type guy maybe in two

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 3>cities as opposed to one Cam Hayward at think's a

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 3>little better than those guys. But I think Buckner is

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 3>like a Kalais Campbell Jordan. There's a couple of those

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 3>defensive lineman. You just have great respect for her there

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>and leaders and you know.

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, if he would have had a

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>little more fortune in the health department, I think I

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 2>think we could be saying that he's in. But I

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 2>think he is going to be one of.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:16.959
<v Speaker 3>Those hall He's still really good.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jacksonville Jaguars, work to do. Trevor Lawrence, Josh Hines, Allen,

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that's all listed for the Jags.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they have anybody right now. The

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 2>good news for them is they've got such a young core. No, no, yeah,

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they have anybody right now that

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>you look to and say yeah. And maybe the same

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>with the Tennessee Titans. Keep it up. Jeffrey Simmons sure

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 2>work to do. Peter Skronsky, I guess those would be

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>the two.

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm fine with that. Yeah, again, Skronsky needs give me

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 3>eight more years. Right, He's a very good player that

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>knowing people probably like he's a guard. He's a garden, right.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>He was a tackle coming out of Northwestern. Right, and

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>they moved to if I'm remembering correctly, AFC North Baltimore,

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Ravens In, Derreck Henry and Lamar Jackson and keep it up.

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I think Lamar can not play another snap? And is

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 3>it really I think that way? Yeah, I just but

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 3>in this it's hard for quarterbacks though.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>In this era of quarterbacks.

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on that.

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I have two time MVP is two time MVP is

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 2>pretty big.

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Thought Moore playoff successful, It's gonna hurt him. Henry's in.

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Henry's definitely in.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 3>Keep it up.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Hamilton and Rokwan Smith.

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and yes, but they need to keep it up

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot. Yeah.

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Hamilton though, I mean he I think he's really

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>might even be another step ahead of Rokwan Smith. Yeah,

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and then they have missing out Mark Andrews, Kalays Campbell,

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Ronnie Stanley, All really good players. But yeah, I don't

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 2>think Hall of famers.

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Campbell will be a fun chat. I mean

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>he's got the Wolvermint Peyton Man of the Year, longevity helps, No.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cincinnati Bengals New.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Hopkins was recently a raven. Yeah, I think he's Hall

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of really good, Paul really good.

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cincinnati Bengals, keep it up, Jamar Chase, work to do,

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Burrow Higgins, Dexter Lawrence. I think that's fair.

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it's real fair. Chase is on a skyrocket ship. Yeah.

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I understand saying work to do because he's still only twenty.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Six, right, But if he is good a startup careers, he.

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Does this for two or three more years, he's absolute luck.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 3>But like another LSU guy that if we did this one, Beckham,

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 3>it's great, Like, oh, he's definitely could knock it in.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not easy to do.

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Anybody got to have longevity. These conversations Cleveland Browns. Three

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.439
<v Speaker 2>guys listed as work to do, Carson Sweestinger, Jared Versu,

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and Denzel Ward.

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean Ward's old enough now. I don't think

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 3>he could ever do enough. And I don't know played one.

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Year and I don't know again. Jared Verse very nice player.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have him here, but I don't know

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 2>if he's ever going to reach that height.

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he would have to really step it up.

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I think he's a solid B plus player, you know,

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing wrong with that.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 3>But ninth best edge player on the planet, which is great,

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 3>but they don't that's not who goes look in the hall?

0:47:56.520 --> 0:48:00.479
<v Speaker 2>All right, Matt, here we go Pittsburgh Steelers in Aaron

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers and TJ.

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Watt, no doubt, no doubt, I think. I mean, obviously

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Rogers could never play again. I think Watt could never

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.280
<v Speaker 3>play again and be fine. I think there's two others

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 3>that might have that same case that are better a

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>little softer on the cusp.

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Cam Hayward Jalen Ramsey.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I have mixed feelings if they would get

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 3>in if they never played another snap same, you know, but.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 2>They definitely have, they'd definitely be in the conversation.

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah. I mean Cam's gonna be really hard

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to keep out. I assuming he has a similar year

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 3>to what he has the last couple.

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 2>If he has another years in all pro, forget about it.

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>And there was a long stretch. I mean, people forget

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey was maybe the best defensive back on the planet

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>for five years. That's pretty strong and it was never bad.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And then work to do category for the Steelers. Matt

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.439
<v Speaker 2>on the right track, but work to do Troy Faltanu, well,

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of work do. But I love them are

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Prince Zach Frasier.

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Fraser's had a better chance. He's just got more under

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>his wing. And I think it's it sounds weird, but

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 3>there's few centers to battle this generation that tackles you know, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're if he's you know, if he can if it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, Cammon Creed Humphrey, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could play for a dozen years at a high level

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<v Speaker 2>at that position, he's gonna have so many starts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he probably needs eight more years of being Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the top guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Porter Jr. Still very early, very early, and DK Metcalf.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if he's gonna list Metcalf, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He's almost twenty nine years old. I that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, And again in this era of just absolute

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<v Speaker 2>freak superstar wide receivers, I think DK is really good,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he's in that Jamar Chase, Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson and Puka Nakua. I mean, these guys are just

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<v Speaker 2>putting up monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Numbers, and I hope I'm not correct, but his best day,

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<v Speaker 3>his pure the prime where he hit his absolute apex,

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<v Speaker 3>probably is behind him. I mean it's just physical. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's just physiology.

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<v Speaker 2>Last uh, last division. Listen, I'll tell you this right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Frazier makes it to Canton. We're just we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>set up a week there and you're gonna do and

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<v Speaker 2>do shows there and can'ton all week. Last last division

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<v Speaker 2>here as we round out this exercise, Matt the AFC

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<v Speaker 2>East bills in, Josh Allen, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Him and Lamar I think have the equal case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, work to do And I don't know, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>should say because if Josh Allen, what if he never

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<v Speaker 2>played another down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I still chances are he'll be good this

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<v Speaker 3>year or the next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Work to do. James Cook and Spencer Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of work to do, though, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins one person.

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<v Speaker 3>Miller not on any team anymore. I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he's on a team, but I think he's going. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, without a doubt, Miami Dolphins work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The only one guy listed, Devon ah Chang, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work to do. But I always forget that he's

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<v Speaker 2>only twenty four, Like ye nuts, but that's tough, especially

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<v Speaker 2>you're not you're not and you're not Bijon and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not Saquan and right, you're not Gibbs and you're not you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, no, longevity's going to be his friend either.

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 2>New England Patriots two in the keep it up category,

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzalez Drake may May.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mind being on there, Like I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>compared to like a Knicks. Yeah, I mean at least

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<v Speaker 3>he was runner up for he went to Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>He's running up for MVP in his second season. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously he needs to give me twelve more

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<v Speaker 3>years and it's all the Seeds to do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then work to do. Aj Brown he's a tough one.

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>He's just again though, like I just at twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>His style of play, Oh, I think he's declining.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now if he has a nice body of work,

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<v Speaker 2>if he has another fourteen hundred yard receiving season or two.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's like a first team All Pro then I

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<v Speaker 3>think he goes sure, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just man, that's I'm betting against that me too.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York j e Ts Jets, Jets, Jets work

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<v Speaker 2>to do Garrett Wilson Hall of really good to Mario.

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<v Speaker 3>Davis, Yes and yes, and Wilson has to do it time.

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I think Wilson has to do a lot. Tomorrio Davis

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 2>is another one of those Ring of Honor easy for

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<v Speaker 2>the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good player, but I think just a just a step

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<v Speaker 2>short of Hall of Fame credentials.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Minka's two steps short. He's a Jet now too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, I'm surprised that he wasn't listed as just,

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, a missing out.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had a pretty good career.

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<v Speaker 2>It's had a very good career. But I would say

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<v Speaker 2>he's another one of those Hall of really good type guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour in the books two More Hours to Go. There

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<v Speaker 2>is one more interesting Hall of Fame angle conversation backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>to tonight that I want to run by Matt Williamson

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<v Speaker 2>when we start the four o'clock hour. We'll do that

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