WEBVTT - Deep State Deep Dive

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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom much huge GDP number today,

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the economy under Trump is doing just great.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's talking about a fight for the soul of America,

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<v Speaker 1>But what the heck is he really talking about? Does

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<v Speaker 1>he even know? And George Papadopolis, the man at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the Russia collusion delusion, He's going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of time list today to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what really happened as a target of the deep state.

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<v Speaker 1>Attamore coming up. This is the Buck Sexton Show, where

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<v Speaker 1>the mission or mission is to decode what really matters

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<v Speaker 1>with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, Bring You're a

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<v Speaker 1>great American again, The Buck Sexton Show begins. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a blowout number. You know. I'll just say Trump policies

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild the economy, lower taxes, regulations, opening energy trade reform. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is working. The first quarter is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the worst quarter of the year, so it comes

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<v Speaker 1>in at three point two percent tells me, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>that the prosperity cycle we have entered into is continuing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's strong, it's got legs, and it's got momentum. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to go on for quite some time. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the new Trump economy. Some people don't like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or they don't agree with that. I respect the differences,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll tell you I think the Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sex and Show blowout number here on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>GDP grow three point two percent the first quarter. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder, you know. I like to spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>on the show to make the case to all of

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<v Speaker 1>you that President Trump is in fact doing a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job overall as president. Not perfect. Some stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>would want it differently, but certainly not what the left

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<v Speaker 1>is telling you. It's a fight for the soul of

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<v Speaker 1>the nation and what are we gonna do? And how

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<v Speaker 1>are we ever gonna live for four more years of Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I do worry about what the psychological damage will be

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<v Speaker 1>to the left if Trump does win reelection, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think right now he is in a very strong position.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot can change between now and then.

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<v Speaker 1>I do worry about a cyclical recession. I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying it because I'm hoping it won't come true, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I say it, it it won't happen. But Trump as

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<v Speaker 1>commander in chief, Trump as a steward of the American economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the ideas and the policies that he's pushing,

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<v Speaker 1>things are actually going pretty well. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of there is a lot of sense of optimism and growth.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile the left is running around saying all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of just crazy stuff, Green New Deal, Medicare for All,

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly embracing at least socialist tone, if not socialist intent.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I like to hear from a man

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Couldlow. He's just He's great, isn't he Couldlow really

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<v Speaker 1>is a very effective communicator, very very charming guy and

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<v Speaker 1>smart understands the economy really well. Here's here's what he

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<v Speaker 1>says about this idea of the Democrat left and can

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<v Speaker 1>they really win pushing all this socialist nonsense playclibit. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the socialist winning. The Democratic Party can't win. They

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<v Speaker 1>cannot win. No, nobody wants to u Universal Healthcare cup

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<v Speaker 1>GDP by fifteen percent, the Green New Deal, which would

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<v Speaker 1>destroy I mean nobody that that socialist message is a

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<v Speaker 1>sure loser. I hope he's right, I really do. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he is right. But we have a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and the medium and it think think about how much

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<v Speaker 1>ferocity they direct at Trump on a regular basis, we

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<v Speaker 1>think about their willingness to try to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different ways to just make Trump make

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<v Speaker 1>a negative news cycle for Trump. I mean, honest analyzes

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<v Speaker 1>of media coverage of this president usually put negative coverage

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<v Speaker 1>around ninety percent. So most of the major media outlets

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<v Speaker 1>when they run a story on Trump, nine out of

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<v Speaker 1>ten times, it's just obviously negative. Now they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have their second opportunity in the post Russia collusion delusion

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<v Speaker 1>situation of the Mulla report already being out, and after

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<v Speaker 1>the Billy Bush tape, and after the campaign finance porn

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<v Speaker 1>star payoffs. I mean, they've they've thrown all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at Trump and they just can't beat him. They just

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure out how to do it yet. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a particular desperation you can smell it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel it coming from the left in order

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<v Speaker 1>to stop this president from getting four more years. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I really mean this, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they will be able to psychologically handle for

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<v Speaker 1>more years of Trump. He's already broken them, so what's

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<v Speaker 1>he going to do break them again? Can they be rebroken.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there going to be another night like that night

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump defeated Hillary, when they're all these people gathered

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<v Speaker 1>together for their big coronation party of whoever the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be. We don't really know yet. Right

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<v Speaker 1>now people say Biden, I don't think that's going to last.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll talk more about where I am on Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Democrats handle former years of Trump? Well? What will

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<v Speaker 1>some of them actually start to flee to Canada or

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<v Speaker 1>who knows where. I don't know if anyone really has

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<v Speaker 1>the answer, because the way that they have responded to

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<v Speaker 1>this president so far is just it does feel like

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<v Speaker 1>and look like a form of psychosis. And Biden launching

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign the way he did, talking about Charlottesville right away,

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<v Speaker 1>and this pretense that we're gonna have a return to

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<v Speaker 1>normalcy when I don't even know what normalcy is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. The Obama years were normalcy. The Obama administration's policies,

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<v Speaker 1>the bowing to dictators, the giving palettes of cash for hostages,

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranians, after completely abandoning some of the fundamental precepts

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<v Speaker 1>of US foreign policy in the Middle East because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to upset the Iranian mulas, that that's return

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<v Speaker 1>to normalcy. You know, you didn't build that demonizing job

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<v Speaker 1>creators or those who build well for themselves and others

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<v Speaker 1>through the fruits of their labor, that that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to. It doesn't seem like something

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody should be particularly excited about. What will Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>policies be. I don't even know if Biden knows what

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<v Speaker 1>his policies and the economy are supposed to be. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of these guys who has been in living off

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<v Speaker 1>the off of the public's checkbook for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think thirty or forty years now. He's never really

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<v Speaker 1>had a private sector job. In that sense, he represents

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<v Speaker 1>much of what was rejected in the last election, that

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<v Speaker 1>the politics of the permanent political class, and Biden's already

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even get me started on how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially an unlicensed and unwanted massage therapist for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>within arm's reach for the last twenty years or so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. What are his economic policies going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>A good Low brought up what he thinks Biden, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks of Biden doesn't even know what Biden's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Play nine. What I don't know is whether Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>will run on the kinds of pro growth economic policies

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump is put in place, and whether Vice

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden will work to keep the prosperity cycle going.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's a blue collar guy. I get that. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the point. Under President Trump, blue collar workers are booming.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue collar employment is booming the best since I was

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<v Speaker 1>here last in the nineteen eighties, Wages are booming. Will

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<v Speaker 1>mister Biden promote growth policies or will he promote you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big centralized government collective as policy like the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his party. We'll have to wait and see. A strong

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<v Speaker 1>economy is usually a big winner come election time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all said. I mean, what are the policies that Biden

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<v Speaker 1>is going to push, less prosperity, higher taxes. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the Democrats love to do that. What do

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<v Speaker 1>they really think is going to be a compelling pitch

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Biden on the economy? All this class warfare

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<v Speaker 1>stuff appeals to the left wing base, but people that

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<v Speaker 1>are just trying to do the right thing, pay their bills,

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<v Speaker 1>pay their mortgage, pay their rent. They don't. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>just want to hear about the millionaires and the billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to hear about how they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and the government's going to take its boot off

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<v Speaker 1>their neck and its hand out of their pocket. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>going to provide that. Biden is kind of a cipher

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<v Speaker 1>and no one really knows what he thinks about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this stuff because he's not somebody who has

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<v Speaker 1>a particular philosophical position on anything. It's just what does

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<v Speaker 1>it do for Biden at any given time. Old school

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<v Speaker 1>politics for an old school dude. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be enough in case Hillary Clinton loses. If

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<v Speaker 1>she loses, we've got an insurance policy. Well that was

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance policy. Now she lost, and now they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate the administration to really it's a coup. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's far bigger than Watergate. I think it's possibly

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest scandal in political history in this country. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's see how high it goes up. Because it's inconceivable

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<v Speaker 1>when it goes to Clapper, Brennan, Comy, these people, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine that some other people maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>higher up also knew about it, and maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 1>higher up. We know who he's talking about. The president

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<v Speaker 1>there is starting to prepare the American people for the

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<v Speaker 1>truth that I believe is going to come out very

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<v Speaker 1>soon that President Barack Obama at the time knew a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot about what was going on and did nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to stop it. I think what we will see is

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<v Speaker 1>that President Barack Obama, well I'll get more into this

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<v Speaker 1>later on the show, but I just this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a coup, that this was something that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to understand fully to prevent in the future. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to stay on this because the left is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not going to want to get to the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>because the truth is that they tried to cheat in

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<v Speaker 1>the election that they always they claimed that Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>the cheater. The reality is the Left was the cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>was the cheater. The progressive Left were the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>were pushing this whole story and engaging in the deceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps before the fives accord, I think very likely, almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly that occurred. I think that the progressive Left has

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<v Speaker 1>so much to be ashamed of, but they're not ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of anything, because I don't think they're really capable of shame.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not something that's really in their vocabulary. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why when the President uses this language when he says

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<v Speaker 1>it's a coup and it's far bigger than Watergate. Good good.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what we That is how we should talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. We're gonna have a whole conversation later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the show about the kind of words the left

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<v Speaker 1>wants us to use now in the ways that they

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<v Speaker 1>try to control the language. But I mean, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell you that, you know, we have used

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<v Speaker 1>their verbiage. They insisted that we say collusion for two

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<v Speaker 1>years and then when we said no collusion, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>collusion is not really a thing. I mean, they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>change the rules as they go along. They'll change the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that the great hope of the Democrat left

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<v Speaker 1>is and I think that there there may be a

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<v Speaker 1>great irony here that the effort to take down Trump

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<v Speaker 1>may help ensure his reelection. But the Democrat left believes

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<v Speaker 1>that this was rather that Joe Biden is somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>can make can make it all happen, and he can

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<v Speaker 1>defeat Trump. He's the one. And this is Trump talking

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<v Speaker 1>about his soon to be perhaps number one opponent, on

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats side. Play clip two. When you look at Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I've known Joe over the years, He's not the brightest

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb in the group. He talked about the way

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<v Speaker 1>the world is today. Well, I'll tell you the way

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<v Speaker 1>the world is today is we have a strong military,

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<v Speaker 1>We have choice for our veterans. We have the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>tax cut in the history of our country. We are

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<v Speaker 1>a country respected again the country. As much as the

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<v Speaker 1>left wants to believe it's going to hell in a handbasket,

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<v Speaker 1>the country is doing well. We do not have the

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<v Speaker 1>Occupy Wall Street movement popping up in city after city,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, deciding they're going to set up these Marxist

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<v Speaker 1>encampments and demand changes to policy and send Antifa running

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<v Speaker 1>around to break things and threaten people and act all crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the Black Lives Matter movement marching around

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<v Speaker 1>the city saying that hops or racist who are murdering

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<v Speaker 1>black young black men for sport, for effectively for entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>or out of out of some deep seated racism. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what was being said under the years of the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama administration that I was at the rallies. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>remembered debating Van Jones on this, and he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, oh, that's not what said. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>have photos of the placards, I have video of the chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what was being said at Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter rallies. You know, racist cops murdering, racist pigs. Terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>terrible stuff. That's all that's gone away, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>now under the Trump administration. In what way was the

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<v Speaker 1>country unified under the Barack Obama years? So this is

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<v Speaker 1>where when Biden does this whole oh the soul of America?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was this this bringing together? Yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>moment there in the early stages of the Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>presidency where you have this historic rise of a of

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<v Speaker 1>a president, first African American president. You know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to deny reality. There was a moment

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<v Speaker 1>there where I think you had a particularly high level

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<v Speaker 1>of excitement and enthusiasm for a new president. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Obama started making decisions as president, started doing things, started

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<v Speaker 1>pushing policies and ideas, and that did not bring the

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<v Speaker 1>country together. Obamacare, for example, was as partisan an exercise

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<v Speaker 1>as you could possibly have from the legislative branch. Obamacare

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<v Speaker 1>was not about bringing people together or unifying them. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about making the Republicans wallow and suffer in silence. Remember,

0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.440
<v Speaker 1>elections have consequences. It was we won, you lose. Take it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Democrat attitude was. And I think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely right when he points this out and that

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<v Speaker 1>this soul of American nonsense from Joe Biden, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>pathetic play. For so when Biden makes the same and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the soul, I mean the soul. Take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Obama you know, I heard somebody say

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<v Speaker 1>before that there was s dissension and division. People forget

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<v Speaker 1>there was tremendous division during the Obama administration, tremendous division.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually have great spirit right now. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>good spirit right now. We also have good jobs numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>good stock market, good employment numbers. You know, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>is trending in the right direction, everything except perhaps the border.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, I'm not going to go a

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<v Speaker 1>whole show without bringing up where we are on the border.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very troubled by this. Border Patrol Chief Brian Hastings,

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<v Speaker 1>who I've interviewed numerous times, had this bombshell to drop.

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<v Speaker 1>And just as numbers, you know, they can tell us

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore numbers. The Democrats can say that doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Numbers do matter. Play clip six. As of yesterday, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty thousand apprehensions along the Southwest border. We

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<v Speaker 1>need a change in in the current outdated laws that

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with for this current graphic, in this crisis

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<v Speaker 1>that we have four hundred forty thousand apprehensions along the

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<v Speaker 1>southwest border, no end to this insight. The courts are

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<v Speaker 1>blocking Trump. The Democrats are complicit in the massive illegal

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<v Speaker 1>invasion in this country. They're not willing to take this on.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want it to change. So I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sitting here to tell you everything's all just fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>in Trump's America. But I do think it's better than

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<v Speaker 1>what we had going on in Obama's America. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a very clear case to be made for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, what upsets the liberals the most it's just

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and his tweets. I keep asking, what's the terrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Trump has done? What has made people's lives

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<v Speaker 1>markedly worse in this country? And I get nothing. I

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<v Speaker 1>get all his tweets are mean. He says mean things

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<v Speaker 1>to Jim Acosta really that that's now the barometer for

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<v Speaker 1>whether the president is literally worse than a hitler, as

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<v Speaker 1>they always say. I don't think so, my friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk a bit more about the revelations of

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the deep state. I know these Struck page text

0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.359
<v Speaker 1>messages now have come out and people are looking at

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 1>those again. And there's the suggestion that Struck, a senior

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<v Speaker 1>FBI agent, may have wanted to establish contacts in the

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<v Speaker 1>administration during the transition in order to essentially set people up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is what we believe was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>just like they did too, General Flynn, right, they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take people down, and it was partisan and

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<v Speaker 1>it was all done in bad faith. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about Maria Boutina coming up here because

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<v Speaker 1>she just got sentenced today officially in federal court. I

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<v Speaker 1>might have a slightly different take on that than a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other folks. And then in the second hour

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<v Speaker 1>to day on the show, we got George Papadopolis, who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to join us, and I'm gonna let him really

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<v Speaker 1>tell you his story, because remember he was central, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the New York Times, a Washington Post. They said

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<v Speaker 1>Papadopolis was the reason the FBI got this whole collusion

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<v Speaker 1>investigation started. That is crap, and we will get into

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<v Speaker 1>why and hear it from him. She had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the Muller investigation. The Muller team was aware

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<v Speaker 1>of Maria, they were with this case. The interviewed her

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the cooperation, and obviously she didn't appear

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the Muller report. I found it curious that

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<v Speaker 1>that was mentioned that what she did was during the

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<v Speaker 1>time of Russian election interference has led by the judge,

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<v Speaker 1>when in fact, had she been involved in any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine Special Council Muller would have mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in his four hundred pages if she had anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it, But he should not. Maria Bouttina,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that name. Maria Butina was the young Russian woman

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<v Speaker 1>red hair, and if you kind of remember, you can

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<v Speaker 1>visualize because she was in the papers a lot for

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<v Speaker 1>a few days, and she led to this this frenzy

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<v Speaker 1>of speculation in the press about how there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Russia NRA collusion axis. You know, there was this massive

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<v Speaker 1>plot to run Russian assets through the NRA, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, use that to influence our election or something.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff, and it got even worse. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion, based on what and now is recognized as

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, that she wrote to an American you know, acquaintance,

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<v Speaker 1>that she was trading sex for access. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>called her essentially a prostitute and a spy, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was completely unfair. I mean, they smeared this woman. The

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>press smeared her, the prosecutors initially smeared her. And now

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's been sentenced today to eighteen months, with nine

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<v Speaker 1>of them counted towards the time, already served eighteen months

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<v Speaker 1>for being an unregistered foreign agent of Russia. Now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me say this, the register, the registration of a foreign

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<v Speaker 1>agent is an area of the law where you usually

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<v Speaker 1>would not see this kind of very aggressive prosecution. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe she was held in solitary for all too just.

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I might have a check on that, but that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a hallmark of the Muller probe and all the people

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<v Speaker 1>involved here. Now, Maria Bucchina was not actually a part

0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of them. She was not a Mueller specific target. They

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<v Speaker 1>spun that off to I think the eastern district of

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<v Speaker 1>New York, the Eastern District of Virginia. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff about how she was, you know, working

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<v Speaker 1>through the NRA and the collusion and this not the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. And when push comes to shove, Maria Bouttina

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially working on and she was, according to the

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<v Speaker 1>indictment and her guilty plea, doing this at the behest

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<v Speaker 1>of the Russian government. But she was supposed to make

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<v Speaker 1>friends in America and then have back channels for communication

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<v Speaker 1>to try to improve US Russian relations. Now could that

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm not naive. Could that be an opening for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an easy opening to commit espionage down the line? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course? Could that have been her intent all along? Yeah? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she Maria Boutina commit any act of or try

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<v Speaker 1>or conspire to commit any act of espionage to get

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<v Speaker 1>her hands on classified information, to work to thwart the

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate either processes of the government, or to in some

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<v Speaker 1>way involve herself in the election. No, none of that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that happened. She was effectively doing what we

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<v Speaker 1>in DC call networking. She was making friends and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to create relationships of influence. If she were not, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I'm going to this and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that some people may disagree with me on That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I mean, people are entitled their opinion whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If she were not a Russian and if we were

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<v Speaker 1>not living through the Russia hysteria witch hunt situation, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that she would have faced any criminal charges whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>If Maria Boutina were from France. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>she would have faced charges for conspiracy to act as

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign agent without registering in this country, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would want prison time. They got eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real prison sentence for her, of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the reasons why I'm so pleased

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to have George Papadopoulos joining us later

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<v Speaker 1>on in the program, because you know, the media wants

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<v Speaker 1>to just drive past all this wreckage that they have created,

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, they they want to find some way to

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<v Speaker 1>just move on to the next conspiracy that undermines Trump

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and that's bad for the administration. Mean, that really is

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<v Speaker 1>their goal, and I refuse to allow them to do

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<v Speaker 1>that because they did real damage here. They hurt people,

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<v Speaker 1>and the environment of near psychosis they created where people

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<v Speaker 1>are so concerned about Russia and so concerned about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen in the Muller pro of the

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<v Speaker 1>Muller investigation, that then led to overreach of all kinds,

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<v Speaker 1>to people's reputations being destroyed, to these very aggressive raids

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>against individuals, whether it's Papadopolis or Stone or you know,

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Maniport and all these different people who are at worst

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>guilty of essentially white collar and process crimes. But the

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>hysteria had spread throughout the federal government, and it should

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>really put us all on edge. It should really make

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>us all feel very uncomfortable that all it took for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most powerful people in the national security

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy to become deep state left wing activists was this

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that there was collusion between the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia. That's all it took. And then they abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>so many of their professional and ethical obligations, and they

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>decided that sure enough, they would not give any benefit

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt to the people that they were investigating.

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>It was just going to be a headhunting expedition. They

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<v Speaker 1>were going to get scalps, They're going to get people.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's done a scalp hunting expedition, same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to make people pay for this. Did

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<v Speaker 1>it matter to them? Did it matter to Muller along

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the fundamental premise of this investigation was false,

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<v Speaker 1>that the entire initial purpose of the investigation was based

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<v Speaker 1>on stories that were not true, based on a reality

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that had not occurred. They just don't care. They just

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. This was payback, my friends. It was payback

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<v Speaker 1>all along. And they didn't get everything they wanted, but

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>they did score some points along the way, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not done yet. So we need to get ready for

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>battle here because these people should not benefit from what

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<v Speaker 1>they did, and they certainly shouldn't get their person in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House next. And in that moment, I knew

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the threats of this nation wasn'tunlike any I had ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my lifetime. I wrote it to time. They

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>were in the battle for the soul of this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's even more true today. I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>people that went because they felt very strongly about the

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>monument to Roberty Lee, a great general. Whether you like

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it or not, he was one of the great general.

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>People were there protesting that taking down of the monument

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<v Speaker 1>of Roberty Lee. Everybody knows that President Trump does not

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<v Speaker 1>accept the left's narrative of events where he is a

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of neo Nazis and white nationalists. Of course, the

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>left is not willing to move past this. They will

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>miscategorize and misrepresent what he says. It is really the

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 1>core of their Trump is evil. That is what this

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>gives them license to say in their minds. That's why

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they won't stop. They won't allow this to be an

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<v Speaker 1>honest discuss because I think that Trump didn't handle this

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<v Speaker 1>as well as he could have. I think that what

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he said wasn't under the circumstances, what I would have

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>advised or would have wanted him to say. But he

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't say that. This was you know that the white

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>nationalists are good and that Neo Nazis are fine people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a lie, and people are lying about what

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he said, and very intentionally. But I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting today because this debate broke out, at least

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.919
<v Speaker 1>on social media, about whether it is now racist to

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>say that Robert E. Lee is a great general. You

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>can't say Robert E. Lee's a great general. Now when

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you talk about great you can have a whole discussion

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>about you know, Alexander the Great conquered a lot of

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the known world at the time, amazing military feats, but

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>was not a guy that I think if you put

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<v Speaker 1>him in the current context in terms of the amount

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of people that he killed along the way, that you

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<v Speaker 1>would necessarily think was a great guy. And then you

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have Genghis Khan for example. If you say Genghis Khan

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<v Speaker 1>was a great, a great military mind, a great war leader,

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>does that mean that you're okay with the genocide that

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the Mongols engaged in on a pretty regular basis. I mean,

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the Mongols would go in and if you haven't ever

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>heard it, I would recommend Dan Carlin's hardcore history on

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>this one. The Mongols would go in and they would

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>kill an entire city. If the city resisted, everybody, everything, men, women, children,

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone dies, whole cities. No one saying that Gengghiz Khan

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>murdering every man, woman and child in a city is

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>ethical or good. But if you're talking about military capability,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the expansion of state authority under arms, and yeah, then

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>guess what, it's pretty impressive, pretty impressive what Genghis Khan

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>pulled off and in so many ways. Genghis Khan was

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the great military leaders of all time, but

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that he's a good guy or everything

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>he does is okay. And the case of Roberty Leeds

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously an even more nuanced discussion with was he fighting

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for Virginia? Was he actually fighting for slavery? People argue

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>about this stuff all the time. I know a lot

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of people in South right now are yelling as they

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>hear this. He was not pro slavery. I know this.

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I've read biographies of Lee. But he fought for the Confederacy,

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and there is now a very active effort to make

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone who took up arms for the Confederacy to be

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>akin to Nazis. That's really what the that's what the

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>left and the Democrat Party today. Remember the Democrat Party

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of the of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the ku Klux Klan. That's that's all Democrat Party stuff.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>But now the Democrat Party are very brave warriors for

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>truth and justice on this issue, you know, after the fact,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and they really want to believe that anybody that had

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with the Civil War on the side

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Confederacy was it was morally equivalent to a

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi And I think that's you know, that is that

0:28:56.240 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is unfair. That is unfair. Although these conversations in history,

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>they do come up in other context too, And it's

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how people get very very tense, very

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable when you point out things like, Okay, it's one

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>thing to admit a member of the Nazi Party, It's

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's another thing to be a member of let's say

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the SS. But is every Wehrmacht conscript that fought for

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the Germans and the Second World War? Are they all

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of the guys running the death camps? I mean,

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's they fought for the wrong side,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>They fought for an evil side. Is every person who

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>fights for the wrong cause to be held accountable for

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>everything in that cause? I mean, what if you are

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>facing the ruination or destruction of your and your family

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>unless you're willing to serve. What if you're fighting for

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>nationalist causes, meaning that love of the nation not national socialism?

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>You know? Is that a see? People, you can even

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>have this discussion if you say that there are great

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>not meaning great men, so that there are great generals

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>who fought for the Confederacy. That is a military judgment.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>But today I saw because Trump said that or tweeted

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that Robert E. Lee was a great general. This caused

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stir. You know, if I were to

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>study the tactics of Rommel, who was very well respected

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>as a tactician, no one saying that, you know, he

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>was okay that he fought for the Nazis. But if

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you study the tactics of Rommel and say that he

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>was a great tactician, does that mean that you were

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>advocating for Nazi Of course not. But it's very hard

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to have adult conversations these days when there are so

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>many leftists who are just looking for a way to

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>bash the opposition and everyone involved with it, in their

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>political opponents as just racist. That's they love to go

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>with racist and now white nationalist alt right. You know,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>there are areas where they could criticize Trump and it

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>would be at least a real exchange about something meaningful.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But what they'd rather do is just debase, defame, and

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>smear and really go after the person and really suggests

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that he's just an evil human being. It's not enough

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>to say they don't like his policies, and this is

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>common among Democrats all over the place. It's not that

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you and I are disagree with them, say on climate change,

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>because you know, there was a map that was floating

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>around the internet yesterday and all over social media at least,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and it showed what is going to happen to Los

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Angeles if we don't stop climate change. And my friend

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>David Harsanyi pointed out that what's going to happen is

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that if people believe this, you would think that they

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>would be willing to sell their beachfront Malibu mansions at

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a considerable discount. But they're not, and they won't. Why

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>is that they really think that the Los Angeles shore

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to be underwater in ten years. You don't

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be locked into a a ten million dollar

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>home that's not going to be around in ten years.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That's not a good idea. But it's not that we're

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>wrong on that. It's that we're evil, We're bad, we're

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.719
<v Speaker 1>bad people. That is what the left believes, and they

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>also believe a lot of other things that are not true.

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's Joe Biden, who was on the View today. Joe

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>seems to have a very close relationship with Megan McCain,

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>which just I'm just noting that that's what I've picked

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>up on. But Joe said this about the Obama administration

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that he served in play thirteen. I'm very I'm incredibly

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>proud to have served with him. And the thing I'm

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>proudest of is we coincidentally, we're each in a different

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>part of the country, and we were each talking to

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>groups of people that were being televised, and at the

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>same day, purely coincidentally, D asked the question, what are

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>your proudest of your administration? I know what I said.

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It turns out he said the same thing, and probably

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a little more clearly than I did. That not one

0:32:50.000 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>single whisper of scamper, not one. He's amazing. I know,

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>he's the best. He's the smartest, the most handsome, the

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>best dresser. He's amazing. Do you remember the tan suit

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>he wore. He was so handsome in it. Remember Operation

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Fast and Furious? Remember Benghazi? Remember the Irs targeting conservatives

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>in an election year. None of that is None of

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that is worthy of scandal. Huh interesting. Here's a little preview, though,

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I think where this conversation will go pretty soon. You

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>know what. The real scandal with the Obama aministration is

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>going to end up being the complicity of Obama's top

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>national security officials in the Spygate collusion conspiracy theory. And

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that not only will we find out

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that this was essentially created almost out of just fabricated

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>out of thin air with the dossier, but that beyond that,

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Obama knew a lot more about this than

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>anybody wants to admit. I think Obama let this play out.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And therefore, when we know the full scope of the

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>deep state spying and the efforts to have a soft

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.959
<v Speaker 1>coup against the president, there will be and the media

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>will never admit this because they still think that there

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>was collision. I mean, they're crazy, but the media, you

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>can't worry about them. They'll never come to an honest conclusion.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>The information will be out there and we will know

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that Obama knew enough that he should have stopped this,

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't, and he didn't because he didn't want to,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't want to because this was the ultimate

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>backdoor way to stop Trump and we all know it.

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, we have George Popadoppolis joining for the

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 1>full hour coming up here. He's gonna take you right

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>into the heart of the deep state conspiracy theory. We

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>have that coming up here in just a moment. I know, FBI,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>guess these are the best in the world. But the

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>people leading at Komi and McCabe and Strook and Page

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and all of these people. The lawyer who admitted frankly

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>how crooked things were. I mean, when that testimony comes out,

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>it's already come out partially, when that testimony comes out

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>from the attorney for the FBI, you'll see. So I

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 1>really say, now we have to get down because this

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>was a coup. This was an attempted overthrow of the

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>United States government. President Trump saying what I think did

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>happen here, which was a deep state effort to undo

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to first prevent the election of Donald Trump, and then

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to undo the election of Donald Trump, and to use

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>some of the most powerful tools in the federal government's

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>surveillance and law enforcement arsenal to accomplish that task. We

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of unanswered questions here, things that I'm

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to let us fall by the wayside, and

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>there's justice that still very much needs to be done.

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>With that in mind, I want to bring our friend

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>George Papadopoulos. Now I'm sure you've heard the name before.

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>He got caught up right in the center of what

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>became the Muller Probe and the FBI's earlier efforts to

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>investigate Russian interference in the election. He ended up taking

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a guilty plea and spending a short stint in jail

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>for Muller's, in my opinion, radically over zealous and politicized

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>prosecutorial efforts. But he is the author and he's on

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>a book tour right now of Deep State Target How

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>bring down President Trump. He's also a former Trump campaign advisor.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>George Man, is so good to have you on. I

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>know we talked before, but I'm glad to get you

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>on the radio show. Oh, thank you so much for

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>having me. It's a real honor, George. So I want

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to spend some time. It's a Friday, and you know

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>there's not the world's not on fire right now with

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>some huge, crazy story that we got to spend our whole,

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>all of our time on. I want to get into

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>because this is what's coming next. You your story. Carter

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Page's story. How did this whole Russia collusion narrative get

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>spun up? So if you would just walk me into

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the summer. I mean, I want you to take

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>us back to the beginning a little bit here, and

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>then work us all the way through to when Muller

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>is threatening you, threatening your girlfriend, saying all kinds of

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I want you to explain to everybody. Tell

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>me what was going on the summer of twenty sixteen.

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Your Trump campaigns in full swing, you're an advisor, you

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>get some offer to go to the UK. What happens? Yeah, well, oh,

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a very complicated story. And I'm just going to

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>say this first. My entire case was never about Russia,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>was about Israel, and Bob Muller himself stated that unequivocally

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in his report. For some reason, reporters either intentionally overlooked

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it or they just did not read the fine Prince.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But if you see the Bob Muller report, and I've

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>even tweeted this on my accounts at George Poppa nineteen,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>he stayed said George Poppidapolis had search warrants and other

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>surveillance warrants issued upon him to look into his quote

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>substantial context to Israel, but unfortunately for them, they said

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that the evidence wasn't sufficient to charge me with the

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>FARO violation. So why am I bringing this up Because

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>all of my encounters with these Western intelligence operatives, including

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>as you just mentioned in the summer of twenty sixteen,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>they targeted me for those ties and not Russian ties,

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>because of course I have no Russian ties. I've never

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>been to Russia. I've never met a Russian official in

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>my entire life. And as somebody who was working for

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>five years at a neo conservative think tank in Washington,

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>d C. With people like Scooter Libby, dug Fights and

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>set Cropsy, the last thing I was doing was promoting

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Russian interest throughout my entire career. So I just want

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to qualify exactly what my case was about at the

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand foot level and now get into the specifics

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 1>when I was meeting with these operatives. Joseph Mipsud, who

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>by the way, has recently been outed last week living

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>two blocks away from the usmbassy in Rome, and right

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>now the Italian government has issued some sort of inquiry

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>into him and the university that he's currently being paid by,

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>called Ling campus. It's going to highlight probably another reason

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>why Donald Trump called the Italian Prime Minister last week,

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and they probably discussed this person. And we're going to

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of exactly who was running this

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>person at me. But let's let me get back to

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the summer of twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen, I had

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>been working for a company named the London Center for

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>International Law Practice. Yeah. Yes, And anybody who does a

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>simple superficial examination of this organization, you won't find any

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Russians working there. You'll find a lot of ex Western

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>diplomats working there, the top lawyers of the biggest law

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>firms in the world affiliated with this organization, and many

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>six CIA types who were directly or indirectly involved with

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this company. Now, immediately upon joining the Trump campaign, and

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>as I just stated, I was working for this company,

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they were horrified and they said, before you go, please

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<v Speaker 1>come with us to Rome where we need you to

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>meet some very important people. And a woman named Arvind

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>or Sambe, who is a very important woman who's never

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>been discussed before and involved in the Russia probe, but

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.240
<v Speaker 1>she's heavily involved in my case, and I think also

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<v Speaker 1>related to the Bruce or involvement in the Trump Tower

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>meeting or the Trump Tower investigation because arvind Or Sambe,

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>who was a director at this company I was working for,

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<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to me at the time, had we used to

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>work directly with Bob Muller after nine to eleven, and

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>she actually was working as a legal at TACHE for

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the FBI in the UK while she was also affiliate

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>affiliated with this company I worked for. So she tells me,

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>why don't you go to Rome. We're going to introduce

0:40:58.360 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 1>you to some people there who are going to help

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you with your Trump campaign stuff. And I said, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. I go to Rome to this university called

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Link Campus now wise Link Campus significant because Link Campus

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>has been written about extensively by David Ignatius of the

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post and others. And this is a CIA FBI

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>training school in Rome that it trains not only Italian

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>intelligence officials, but the CIA and FBI. Previous directors and

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>deputy directors have actually spoken at this university and have

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>even taught courses at this university. So it's a very

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>prominent school in Rome. And that's where I meet Joseph Mipsud.

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Now Joseph Mipsod just to fast forward and to summarize

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>who this person is. For the last two years, he's

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 1>been characterized by Bob Muller as the man who was

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a Russian agent who fed me information in late April

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:54.240
<v Speaker 1>that the Russians had Hillary Clinton's emails and I was clusing,

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>hold on one second. This is just I want to

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure everyone's following everything you're telling me. You're so

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you're you're on a Trump campaign, and someone approaches you,

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>this woman you just mentioned and says, come to this

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>university because we'd love to talk to you. Basically, like

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is like connection, building rapport, that kind

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of thing. And Joseph mipsued he has been accused by

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Muller of being essentially a Russian intelligence cutout. Yes, he

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>has been accused and portrayed to the world for two

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>years as a Russian cutout who was feeding me information

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 1>about the Russians possessing Hillary Clinton's emails. Now, I just

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>want to make it clear. Joseph Mipsud was introduced to

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<v Speaker 1>me by an FBI intermediary that I used to work

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 1>for in London named Arvinder Sambe. And when I get

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to Rome. I am introduced to Vincenzo Scotti, who was

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the former Foreign Minister of Italy and acted as the

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>rector of this university, and he passed me along to

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>meet Joseph Mipsud. Now, why is this meeting in romeso importance?

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Besides that it led to this incredible espionage scandal that

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we've been living last couple of years. Just today, just today,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>meaning this morning in Italy on the front page of

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.760
<v Speaker 1>one of Italy's largest newspapers, Il Foglio. And I'm fortunate

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that my wife is Italian and she reads these papers,

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and she had many connections to the Italian government, so

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>she knows Mipsud's network over there. She showed it to

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>me and she said, do you know what this is?

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, what does it say? Joseph Mipsud's lawyer,

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Rowe, this prominent Swiss attorney who's representing him, went

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>public and stated that when George Papandapolis was introduced to Mipsud,

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Mipsod was working quote undercover. Now what does that mean

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>when if I'm introduced to this person Joseph Mipsued at

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a spy school that trains a CIA and FBI and

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>he quotes undercover when he's meeting with me, and then

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>tells me three weeks after I meet with him that

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the Russians have Hillary Clinton's emails, which I believe, and

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I think many people now who know my case believe

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>there was some sort of counter intelligence sting operation. Again,

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>this was a dangle. This was tell we would call

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>this a dangle. They they set you up by putting

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>forth this guy, and they put you in the position

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and they offered up this information and then you know,

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 1>keep going. But that's that's the terminology for this. Keep going. Yes,

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>So this is very important. So fast forward after Joseph

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Mipso introduces me to no One in the Russian government

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>or no one of any substance in Russia, which I

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>had been actively seeking at that time, he one day,

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>as I'm trying to distance myself from him, on April

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth, tells me that the Russians have Hillary Clinton's emails. Now,

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the dates are very important here because timelines have consequences.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>And wait, I just gotta jump in Hillary Clinton's emails,

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>not Podesta DNC emails. I never heard the word DNC

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and I never heard the name John Podesta Okay, because

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>because because the Hillary Clinton email thing, that was a

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>rumor that was out there that even I heard myself

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.839
<v Speaker 1>at the time about Russia. But keep going, yes, so

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought he was doing. I thought he

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>was validating rumors. And I also didn't understand why or

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>how this individual who couldn't even introduce me to the

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Russian ambassador in London could have this information that apparently

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world wanted or wanted to know about.

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 1>So I was very suspicious about this person. And why

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is it important to understand that this meeting that he

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>told me this information on was on April twenty sixth,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>because about ten days before Joseph Mips had told me

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>this information, I was contacted by the Australian embassy and

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I met with a woman named Erica Thompson over lunch

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>by this Israeli diplomats, which there's a lot of suspicion

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>about who this person really was, and he's actually there,

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>he's being scrutinized actually in Israel itself, from what I've

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>been told presently, at an Israeli diplomat who I had

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>been put in touch with, who hated Trump called Christian

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Cantor in mid April told me one day, I want

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to introduce you to my quote unquote girlfriend, and his

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote girlfriend just happened to be an Australian intelligence

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>officer who also worked as a top assistant to Alexander Downer.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Later on I would find that out, and I'm sitting

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm a little shocked that two potentially intel

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>officers from two different countries are dating. We're living together,

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't believe the story. Anyways, I went along

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was just listening to this woman, Erica Thompson

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>in mid April tell me and that Trump is a

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>pariah and that his views on global security and trade

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>are viewed as hostile to Australian interests and even to

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>British interests. And you know, many pundents at the time

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Trump this way, even to this present day,

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>around the world, many leaders don't like him. So I

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>laughed it off. I didn't think too much about it.

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>And then Joseph Mipsot on April twenty six tells me

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>this information. And five days after Joseph Mipso tells me

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>this information, I'm approached by two DA officials from the

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>USMBC in London named Gregory Baker and Terrence Dudley, and

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>these two officials, I'll never forget it. The moment they

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>meet with me. Gregory Baker starts speaking to me in Greek,

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>suggesting that he knew that I was fluent in Greek

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and other languages. And Terrence Dudley began to speak to

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>me about his thesis at TuS University, which had to

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>do with the energy business and the Caucuses, which I

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>was a recognized expert on in the Mediterranean. So I

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>right away felt that they were sent to meet me.

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't cleared by who, but I played along and

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>they were spending probably the equivalent of a thousand dollars

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>on me over four meetings, over drinks and dinner, probing

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 1>me about my ties to the Israelis. They were probing

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>me about what Trump was doing with Russia. And then

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>they were telling me that I should go meet with

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the US Defense at Shay and Athens who I had

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>known previously, Captain Robert Palm. Where we were George, George,

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>hold on, wait before we get the attache. I got

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to go into a quick break here. I want you

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to continue on exactly where we are everyone, We're talking

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to George Popadopolis, the man himself at the center of

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the Special Council Russia Collusion, Delusion Storm. He's got a book,

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Deep State Target, How I got caught in the cross

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>airs of the plot to bring down President Trump. We're

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>going to have more with George, a lot more coming up.

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>We're back with George Papadopolis, author of Deep State Target,

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>How I got to the crossairs of the plan to

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>bring down President Trump. George was right at the center

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of this, all right. So, George, as we left off,

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you were then being set up for a meeting. You said,

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>where defense at tesche Where? Yes, in Athens. Now, I

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 1>just want the listeners to understand, these people don't reach

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>out to you unless they know that who you are

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and what connections you have. And I was on a

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>almost first name basis with the presidents and prime ministers

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in Israel, Cyprus, Greece, and my connections were so high

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in Egypt that I ended up brokering the meeting between

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Trump and CC at the UN General Assembly. So my

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>contexts were all in the Mediterranean. And that's and this

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is what all of these operatives wanted to know about

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why they tell me, you know, you need to

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>go to Athens and you need to meet with Captain

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Robert Palm, who I had met I think a year before,

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and the US Army at Sache, I forget his name,

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and I want to meet the US Army at Sache

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in May at his house, we had a nice dinner

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and in Athens the US Army at Sache and he

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was probing me as well. And then I met Captain

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Robert Palm, who a couple of days after, I met

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.479
<v Speaker 1>with the Greek defense minister who was a friend of mine,

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Panos Komenos, and where Pantos Kaimenos essentially was telling me

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that he wants to be Native's best friend and there's

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity for this grease Israel alliance to basically upend

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the previous security How does this time to Russia in

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the investigation though, because now we're getting down into the weeds,

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>people might start to lose this. So what does this

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>have to do with them thinking you're at the center

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of Russia collusion? Well no, no, this is actually the

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 1>main point I'm making is I have nothing to do

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>with Russia. I was targeted for a completely different thing,

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and all these operatives were testing me to see what

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew about this sensitive part of the world. Then

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you have this person, Joseph Mipsud, throwing this unsolicited information

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in my lap about emails. So he told you about

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the emails. You did not tell him, of course not.

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was. I was having a conversation with

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>him as if I'm doing it with you right now,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and you dropped bizarre information in my lap that I

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you for, like you have a gun and

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask you if you have a gun or not.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's what this information was. It was unsolicited. I

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't want it, and he never told me how he

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 1>received it. Now, why is this so important? You're right,

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>let's not get into the weeds with the military Atach's

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>target meeting with me about other topics about Alexander Downer. Now, Now,

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Alexander Downer wanted to meet with me about ten days

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>after Joseph Mipsud told me this, and three days after

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the US defense, the DA guys met with me in London,

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and who messaged me to set up this meeting between

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Downer and I. That same lady, Erica Thompson, who I

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>was introduced to in mid April by the Israeli diplomats,

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and she messaged me on May six. I looked back

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>at my records the same day that I was meeting

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the DA and she said, my boss, Alexander Downer would

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.799
<v Speaker 1>like to meet you on May tenth. Would you like

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to meet with him? I said, of course, I go

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to this meeting with Alexander Downer. I write about this

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>extensively in my book of how bizarre this meeting was,

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and I feel immediately upon sitting down that this is

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>an asset that was sent to make contact with me,

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that he was spying on me. I testified under oath

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to Congress about my belief that he was spying on me,

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and I revealed to the FBI and Bob Muller himself

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that I felt that Alexander Downer was spying on me

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and recording my conversation because of his very bizarre behavior

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and his use of his phone and how he was

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>pointing at me and other things. So when I met

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>with Alexander Downer, there's this nonsense or this fake story

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of he and I being drunk in a meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about emails. This was a very belligerent diplomats. He

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I did when I said down at

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<v Speaker 1>the table was being shocked because he's telling me to

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<v Speaker 1>stop quote bothering his good friend David Cameron, and Donald

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Trump should stop bothering his good friend David Cameron. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand what was happening. And then he started

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<v Speaker 1>getting into these tangents about Cyprus and why my ideas

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<v Speaker 1>on Cyprus are a threat the British because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the Church should leave Cyprus. And George, George,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta cut in here for a second because we

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<v Speaker 1>have to go again into a commercial break for a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to come back talking to George Papadophlus. Everybody.

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>He is laying out the whole story. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the investigation, the IG report, this is where everything

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<v Speaker 1>is heading. Is what happened with George Popadopolis, the fbhind

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>investigation carter page. We're getting it from the man himself,

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>deep State target. How I got in the crosshairs of

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the plan to bring down President Trump is the book.

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<v Speaker 1>George Papadoplas is the man. We have more with George.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened in that meeting with Downer and then what

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<v Speaker 1>came after that that's going to be in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, team. We've got George Papadopholis with us here

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.439
<v Speaker 1>for a deep dive into how he became the deep

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.479
<v Speaker 1>State target, which is also the title of his book,

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>which I highly recommend to all of you who want

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to know what really happened in this spygate scandal. George,

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you were telling us about the meeting with Alexander Downer.

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<v Speaker 1>Please continue. Yes. So, I was reached out to by

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Downer's assistant who had contacted me initially on April fifteenth,

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and she contacts me on May sixth and says, I

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would like Alexander Downer would like to meet with you.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And on May sixth, I was reached out to by

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the DA at the US Embassy. So I go and

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I meet with Alexander Downer on May tenth. And this person,

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>his behavior was so disturbing that I ended up reporting

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>him to Bob Muller and fby myself because I felt

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that he was spying. I mean recording my conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain to you what was happening in this meeting.

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I sit down and right away he tells me that

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<v Speaker 1>your boss and you better leave my good friend David

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron alone. And I didn't understand what he was talking about,

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think something was happening between David Cameron and

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Trump regarding the Muslim band comments. Then he starts to

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>probe me about the US China relationship and my ties

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to Cyprus and Israel and why those are threatening and

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>why I shouldn't be advising Donald Trump about those issues. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is important to understand because it deals. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>right into the Stefan Helper meeting, which I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, about Israel and Cyprus. After he starts

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>asking me about the Mediterranean and China, he begins to

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<v Speaker 1>pull his phone out, and I felt that he was

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 1>overtly spying on me, as he was holding it up

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<v Speaker 1>front and looking in a very stern manner in my face.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't understand what this person was doing instead

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that he except that he was asking me questions. Okay,

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 1>we get it. He's creepy, he's weird. George, you met

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<v Speaker 1>with Downer in them one? Yeah. So then after that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember Russia ever being brought up by me.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the contents of anything regarding Russia. So

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 1>this story where he disclosed information to the FBI about

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<v Speaker 1>me and Russia makes no sense. And of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>no official intelligence from Australia. And for everybody at home,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's so important. You are the person who

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<v Speaker 1>is listed, and you've gone through all your contacts and

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>conversations here and this is all on the record now

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>with a special counsel. You were the person the FBI

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.720
<v Speaker 1>was saying, oh, we need to start a full field

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>investigation in July of twenty sixteen because someone tied to

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Trump knows about the Hillary emails that were hacked by Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you're telling us is that this is all

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<v Speaker 1>crap and they set you up. Basically, well, that's a

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:34.400
<v Speaker 1>very good way to put it. And I told the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>I told Muller, and I told Congress. I never told

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<v Speaker 1>down or anything about these emails. And even Downer himself

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>has contradicted himself at least three times in subsequent interviews

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>he's given about whatever he thought was said self. Course,

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<v Speaker 1>so the three texts for the entire investigation on you

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was based on a false premise, which is that you

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>were running around drunk and running your mouth about how

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Hillary's emails got hacked by the Russians and you knew

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and the Trump camp pay knew about it.

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You're telling me that is because that's the story of

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the media ran with. You're telling me that is a lie.

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course it's a lie. And I'll just quote Mark Meadows,

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Congressman Mark Meadows from a podcast he gave I think

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago where he stated that Papadopolis was around

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the predicate that went into whatever this

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>investigation was, A ninety five was about to doociate an

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<v Speaker 1>other things. So of course this was just a convenient

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>cover story where you have a Clinton ally like Alexander

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Downer lying about a meeting and stating, oh yeah, this

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 1>guy said something about emails, and it just becomes a

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>convenient cover story for Americans to simplify things for Americans. Okay,

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>And so once that meeting happens, you're done with the

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Downer meeting. It's very weird. When do you realize that

0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the federal government is coming after you? I started, I

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't have an idea until I was interviewed by the

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 1>FBI in January of twenty seventeen, but I did believe

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<v Speaker 1>that my meeting with Stefan Helper in September of twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>where he paid me three thousand dollars for a paper

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<v Speaker 1>on the Israeli energy business and he flew me to London,

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I felt that he was recording in spine on me

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 1>because he was very bizarre and very hostile the way

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that Downer was. So I didn't understand anything except I

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was having very strange, unproductive meetings with these various people

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>until the FBI came to my house in January twenty seventeen.

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And I had a right when Trump takes right when

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Trump actually becomes president, right around then you get an

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 1>FBI visit. I'm attending the inauguration at a party with

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 1>ranks previous two days before the FBI comes to my house.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And I believe the FBI came to me and Flynn

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.439
<v Speaker 1>within forty eight hours of one another, so clearly they

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get after him and I very quickly, and

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>there's probably the reason for that, that's just that has

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>yet to be understood. So they come to my house.

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>They're talking to me for three hours about numerous contents,

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<v Speaker 1>things including the Israeli angle that I just told you about.

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And then they asked me if I heard anything from

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Russians or about hacked emails, and I say, of course not.

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But a Maltese man named Joseph Mitsa told me this information.

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And then later on we find out that this person

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and had been working as an operative for Western intelligence.

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not clearest to exactly what I lied about

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>or what my entire case was really about regarding Russia

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>when we now know it was a complete setup. Right,

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So the FBI came here to talk to you, and

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you told them all this stuff. And then when does

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the Special Council enter the picture? So the special counsel

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>for you enters the Yeah, the Special Council answers the picture.

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 1>When I'm arrested in a savage like manner in the

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>summer of twenty seventeen, after I'm coming off a flight

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 1>from Italy going back to the United Wait, So you

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 1>spoke to the FBI in January twenty seventeen, the Special

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Council arrested you. You had no other contact in the

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 1>summer of twenty seventeen, No, nothing, nothing. I was arrested

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 1>in a savage like manner without even understanding what I

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>had done wrong? If how did they arrest? You? Tell

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>me about the takedown? I want to know. Sure, sure,

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm on a shuttle bus, you know those

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>famous shuttle buses. I had Dullars Airport, and I'm looking

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>across from me, and I see two men in suits

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and ties while everybody else is in sweatpants because we're

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all coming off a fifteen hour flight. And I know

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that these ragents. And as soon as I get to

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<v Speaker 1>the kiosk, they rushed me to a room where there's

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 1>seven agents. They're waiting for me. They're rummaging through my

0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 1>bags looking for something, and whoever reads my book will

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>understand what I think they were looking for, because we

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to talk about it now. But I'm

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 1>then told I'm under arrest. My Miranda rights aren't read

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to me. I have handcuffs and shackles thrown around my

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>hands and feet. I'm thrown in the back sheet of

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a black tinted out SUV and I'm in a cell

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>without being given access to my lawyers. UM and I'm

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>looking in front of a judge the next day where

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking where they're saying, you're looking at twenty five

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 1>years in prison without me even being shown on arrest warrants,

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>read my miranda rights or told initially why I was

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>being arrested. So if you read my book, you'll understand

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 1>why I think the FBI, well, they were what they

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 1>were trying to do was charging you with some nonsense

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>substruction of justice charge that made no sense and a

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 1>lyne to the FBI, and then they had this far

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<v Speaker 1>violation apparently with my Tis Israel. But that was what

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>their nonsense case was all about. Of course, they used

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<v Speaker 1>tactics probably that the KGB would use on their own

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<v Speaker 1>citizens to you know, screw me up psychologically. And that's

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 1>why I probably pled guilty so quickly without actually understanding

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<v Speaker 1>what my case was really all about, because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing in these counterintelligence investigations, so much exculpatory evidence that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in my case, which is it's clear now was

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<v Speaker 1>is never provided to the defendant. And at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>this is twenty seventeen, people think Russia collusion is real.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that Trump's in the pocketarction you got, you

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<v Speaker 1>got totally ambushed by these guys. What is the lie

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<v Speaker 1>that they claimed that you told that then led to

1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.760
<v Speaker 1>your what was a two week prison sentence. My eleven

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<v Speaker 1>nights in this minimum security camp, which looked more like

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a university dorm than a prison, was because and it's

1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in my record now on the of my status of

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<v Speaker 1>effec is because I misremembered when I met Joseph Mipstood

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<v Speaker 1>a year before the FBI came to my house. They

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<v Speaker 1>say that I said I met him in April or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, and before I joined the campaign initially, but

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<v Speaker 1>then they showed documents that suggested I met him while

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the campaign. So it was so stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous that I don't want to speak for the

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<v Speaker 1>honorable judge who sentenced me, of course, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, but to get an eleven night sentence for

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<v Speaker 1>a federal crime, you know, people even in the prison

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<v Speaker 1>were laughing about it and saying, what on earth was this?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, what was it like when you dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with Did you get to talk to Muller directly and

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever get to look at him and just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, why are you doing this to me, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>I explained in my book the moment when I realized

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI set me up, and it was in December

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty seventeen, when they pretty much made it clear

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<v Speaker 1>to me that Joseph Mipsod had been working for them

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. But we don't have time for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the exact details. But I never saw Mueller.

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<v Speaker 1>I was dealing with Andrew Goldstein, this guy Zelinski, and

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<v Speaker 1>Janie Ree and the FBI agents who took me down.

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<v Speaker 1>And what were they? What were they like though Jeanie

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<v Speaker 1>Reim and she's part of the Special Council? Were they

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think that they were fair minded? No, of

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<v Speaker 1>course not. These people. My impression of them was that

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<v Speaker 1>they were Hillary Clinton's personal lawyers, that they basically were

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<v Speaker 1>out to get any scalp they can, just to show

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<v Speaker 1>case that this is what happens when Hillary Clinton loses,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happens when her honors, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the mud, and when you help a person like Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump get elected president. There was no crime here. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Muller and the FBI and even Peter Struck, according

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<v Speaker 1>to his own text messages, that there's no they're there

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Russia collusion. They knew there was nothing going on

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<v Speaker 1>with us in Russia, especially in my case, where I

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<v Speaker 1>explained to you, I was under investigation for a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different thing that had nothing to do with and Fara,

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<v Speaker 1>especially far with Russia is one thing because people were

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<v Speaker 1>all paranoid about Russia. Fara with Israel is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that in any normal time anybody would be prosecuted criminally

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<v Speaker 1>for in Washington, DC. It just wouldn't happen. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't happen. Well, like I said, I'll just I

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<v Speaker 1>just will refer you and the listeners to actually read

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<v Speaker 1>the Muller report and you'll see what he writes about

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect. No, no, I've seen the part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that you got I mean, you got homes,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, That's what that was all about us. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with you. So when they actually told

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<v Speaker 1>me they were going to charge me with that, I

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<v Speaker 1>was half laughing, half shocked, because, like you said, this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen in normal times. Clearly there was a vendetta

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<v Speaker 1>against the Trump campaign and anyone who even made a

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<v Speaker 1>slight mistake was going to have the kitchen sing thrown

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<v Speaker 1>at them. And in my case, they went to the

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<v Speaker 1>extent where they were probably going to try and jeopardize

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<v Speaker 1>a security relationship with our one of our top allies

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<v Speaker 1>just to put me in jail. So it just goes

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<v Speaker 1>to show you the depths of hell that these people

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<v Speaker 1>went to to go after myself and probably Michael Flynn

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<v Speaker 1>and Roger Stone and people like Corsi, who fortunately didn't

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<v Speaker 1>plead guilty. But this was a real witch hunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a persecution. I don't even call it a prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm just very happy now to finally

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to breathe and get my story out

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully it's used now to assist the new investigations

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<v Speaker 1>into the investment. Right. I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take us there next, George. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want answers to what you hope the Inspector General

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<v Speaker 1>and the DOJ. I mean, I have people that I trust.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, George, how you feel about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>people that I trust say that that bar is a

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<v Speaker 1>good man and an honest man, and he wants answers

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened, including to you. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to this part of the story in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to George Papadopolis, author of Deep State Target,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can get now on Amazon, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back with George. Stay with me, all right, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to George Papadopolis, man at the center of

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<v Speaker 1>all this Russia collusion nonsense. As he's been pointing out,

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<v Speaker 1>he had nothing to do with Russia, knew nothing about Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>never been to Russia, and yet the Special Counsel came

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<v Speaker 1>after him like he was Pablo Escobar. Deep State Target

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<v Speaker 1>is George's book. George, Okay, so now you know you

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<v Speaker 1>went to this, you went through this whole process. Clearly

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<v Speaker 1>they came after you. They're trying to justify stuff, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, that had been done all along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to cover their tracks by using you as

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<v Speaker 1>a fall guy. Your a scapegoat for both the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>deep state effort and then for the Special Counsel Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>to justify what they're doing and create this perception of

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of international nexus of collusion. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want answers to now? What do we have to find

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<v Speaker 1>out in order to get some justice and accountability here? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great question, and I think Congress already has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these answers, but they're being coy and

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<v Speaker 1>what do I mean my testimony the Congress has been

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<v Speaker 1>recently released, I think two weeks ago. I testified in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the House Oversight Committee four months ago where

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<v Speaker 1>I was in front of Mark Meadows, John Rathcliffe and others,

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<v Speaker 1>where if you actually look at the transcript now, all

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirty nine pages of it, it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a very fast read. You can almost infer yourself that

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<v Speaker 1>Congress or members of the US government themselves are in

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<v Speaker 1>possession of transcripts of my meetings with people like Joseph Mipston,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Downer, and Stefan Helper. So what that suggests to

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<v Speaker 1>me is that these clearly were people looking to entrap me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were working with the FBI or the CIA,

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<v Speaker 1>or even probably the British Intelligence services to either spy

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<v Speaker 1>on me or to dirty me up. And now the

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<v Speaker 1>US government has is in possession of those. I want

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<v Speaker 1>those to be released if they are, if they do exist.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Mark Meadows has been tweeting a lot lately

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<v Speaker 1>about so called tapes. The puppet up was tapes that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants released, So I'm very curious to see what

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about and who was actually recording me, if

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those men or all three of those men.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the first thing. The second thing is, of

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<v Speaker 1>course Donald Trump must declassify the three O two is

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<v Speaker 1>the FISA warrants and the FISA applications, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>been told myself that I had a FISA warrants issued

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and I also was told by somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Flint had a FISA warrant issued on him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>not simply this harder page FISA. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very interesting to see how Stefan Helper as well,

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<v Speaker 1>who is basically spying on Flynn and I at different times,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be revealed as an informant of the

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence services. And now the information, no matter how DADA was,

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<v Speaker 1>was being fed to the FIST accord from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just see, you know, the three things

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to have exposed are the rolls of

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<v Speaker 1>the three men I just labeled, Alexander Downer, Stefan Helper,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joseph Mipsud. I want all the FISS declassified, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want the three O two is declassified because by

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<v Speaker 1>doing this you're really going to get to the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of how this investigation all started, and it will prove

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<v Speaker 1>once and for all how dirty and sellacious the information was,

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence was that was used to basically target us

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<v Speaker 1>and illicitly spy on us. And now that we have

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<v Speaker 1>all this new information out, including that the docier was

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<v Speaker 1>a fake and Joseph Mipsud was never a Russian spy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious to see what kind of information was

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<v Speaker 1>used to get FISA warrants and wire cap members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump campaign. So I think the only way to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of that is, of course, if

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump declassifies it. And I'm very happy people like

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Meadows and John Ratcliffe are the on the worst

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<v Speaker 1>are going on the on the offensive now and on

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<v Speaker 1>the on offense now and asking him to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it will be a good time to be an

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<v Speaker 1>American when that's revealed. It's going to be a great

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<v Speaker 1>moment in American history. And by doing that, it'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>safeguard Trump's re election in twenty twenty, because if he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go on the offensive, you might have rogue CIA

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<v Speaker 1>and FBI elements who might go after him again and

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<v Speaker 1>we might have an entire new scandal next year. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has to put a stop hit and

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<v Speaker 1>that and that's the only way he can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've only got about a minute, George, and this has

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<v Speaker 1>been fascinating. I just want to ask you. Has anyone

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<v Speaker 1>from the White House kind of just reeched out to

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<v Speaker 1>you to say, you know, keep your chin up and

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the fight. You know, I know that my

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys are very close with people working in the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>I am just keeping out of it. I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be viewed as somebody interfering in anything, because

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that they're so ongoing investigations with Muller and

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<v Speaker 1>there's clearly going to be new investigations by bar and

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<v Speaker 1>Horowitz and Hoober. So I'm not reaching out to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if my lawyers have been in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with them. But my goal right now is simple, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is going on programs like yours, going on TV

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<v Speaker 1>and exposing the truth and giving names, dates and details

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<v Speaker 1>of encounters that I had that I believe we're clearly

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<v Speaker 1>set ups, and they were setups that were designed, as

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<v Speaker 1>you stated earlier, to use me as a fall guy

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<v Speaker 1>to justify this elicit scandal and investigation into the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>presidency which almost led to his impeachment. All Right, George,

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<v Speaker 1>George Papadopolis, Everybody, Deep State. Target is the book. It

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<v Speaker 1>is available on Amazon now. George Man, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us and really telling your story in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that we needed to hear it. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to follow up with you as we get more answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again, my friend, absolutely, thank you. Buck. How crazy

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<v Speaker 1>is the Left when it comes to the troll of language.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a recurring theme on the show, My friends. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk to you about it because the Left

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that they can and sometimes do, win debates merely

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<v Speaker 1>by telling us what words we can use in the debate,

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<v Speaker 1>what words we can use in the discussion. And in

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<v Speaker 1>something called Common Wheel magazine, which I had never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of before I saw this piece on my alma mater,

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<v Speaker 1>Amherst College, which looks all New England e and cutesy

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<v Speaker 1>and all the stuff you see the literature online, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's one of the more elite liberal arts colleges.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's write a little pat on the back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? Well? Apparently I do, because I just brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up. But no I don't, But yes I do,

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<v Speaker 1>But no I don't, But no, it's really a school

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<v Speaker 1>that you would think has its feet on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>based on the way it projects itself. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, it was already losing its mind, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it has just completely gone wacko. There's a piece up

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<v Speaker 1>on something called the Common Language Guide, the Common Language Guide,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is from the Amirst College Office of Diversity

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<v Speaker 1>and Inclusion. Now Amerst only has eighteen hundred students and

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<v Speaker 1>has an Office of Diversity and Inclusion staff of twenty people.

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<v Speaker 1>There are twenty full time staffers whose only job is

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<v Speaker 1>just to talk about diversity and inclusion at this school

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<v Speaker 1>where there are only eighteen hundred students. To begin with

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<v Speaker 1>the table, I gotta walk you through some of this.

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<v Speaker 1>The table of contents. General terminology is ms race and ethnicity,

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<v Speaker 1>gender and gender identity, sexual and romantic identity, class, politics

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<v Speaker 1>and policy, global power, and inequality and disability. This is

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating and it is a very interesting look into the

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<v Speaker 1>mind of the AOC far left Bernie Sanders esque wing

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democrat Party today. It lays out with surprising

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<v Speaker 1>specificity terminology like accomplice, which I hadn't heard in this

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<v Speaker 1>context before, and this is what it So, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>term that the left, and some of this is I

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<v Speaker 1>just want you to hear some of the left wing

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<v Speaker 1>words that they are now using in order to win debate,

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<v Speaker 1>to win discussion, and we are told that we should

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<v Speaker 1>all use these as well. Ally is somebody who does

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<v Speaker 1>things the left likes. So if you are very pro

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<v Speaker 1>and this is all covered in this Amherst College Common

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<v Speaker 1>Language Guide, to keep in mind it's so Orwellian because

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<v Speaker 1>this is uncommon language. This is terms that they've either

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<v Speaker 1>changed the definition of or made up wholesale. So that

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to things like ally, which is if you

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<v Speaker 1>do things the left likes, you're an ally, you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of the good people. Accomplice is one of the bad people.

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<v Speaker 1>This is quote a term coined by the Indigenous Action

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<v Speaker 1>Network to critique the ways in which ally, as an

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<v Speaker 1>identity term, has been deployed absence of action, accountability, or

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<v Speaker 1>risk taking. There has been some critique of this because

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<v Speaker 1>of its association with criminality, when many marginalized communities are

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as already always criminal. Okay, let me unpack this

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Or we're taking a drive down. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going off the rails into left wing crazy train here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's happening. They are using this term now to

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<v Speaker 1>indict people who take a position that is non active

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<v Speaker 1>right or rather or refused to take a position the

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<v Speaker 1>left likes. So think of it this way. If you

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<v Speaker 1>oppose the left, you're a bad guy. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>just won't do anything, if you won't be an ally

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<v Speaker 1>to left wing causes, then you are an accomplice to

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<v Speaker 1>I guess right wing bad people causes. Right. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>way they use this term. And their only problem with

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<v Speaker 1>it is not that this will obviously be abused, but

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<v Speaker 1>that the word accomplice kind of like some say the

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<v Speaker 1>word thug has racial undertones. They're concerned that accomplice, because

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<v Speaker 1>of its us the criminal use in the criminal justice system,

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<v Speaker 1>has racial undertones. I don't know what to tell you, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it gets it gets crazier, it gets crazier.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go fragility, hegemony, horizontal violence, inclusion, intersectionality. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear me talk. This is kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>one oh one Progressive Action vocab deep dive. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're really doing here. So if you listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>and you go through this, maybe maybe it's worth listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this part of the show More Than Once podcast

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<v Speaker 1>at My Friends Intersectionality, you hear me talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who were like, what is that? Which is fine

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know what intersectionality was until about two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years ago, I think, and I'm somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>likes to think of a pretty decent vocab Here's how

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<v Speaker 1>they define. Intersectionality a term coined by Kimberly Crenshaw to

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<v Speaker 1>name the intersections of multiple mutually reinforcing systems of oppression, power,

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<v Speaker 1>and privilege. This was first used to describe the experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of black women in the legal system. Intersectional theorists look

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<v Speaker 1>at how the individual experience is impacted by multiple axes

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<v Speaker 1>of oppression and privilege. These forces compound and complicate one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Microaggressions the verbal nonverbal indignities and denigrating messages targeting people

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<v Speaker 1>of historically and presently marginalized backgrounds that communicate hostile, derogatory,

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<v Speaker 1>or negative slights and insults. The accumulation and frequency of

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<v Speaker 1>such everyday occurrences can have a negative impact on the psychological, emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>and physical well being of the person impacted. That's right, folks. Microaggressions,

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<v Speaker 1>which the left beliefs can include and remember microaggressions added

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<v Speaker 1>up are what creates intersectionality, which is the intersections of

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<v Speaker 1>mutually reinforcing systems of oppression. Right, So intersectionality is the

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<v Speaker 1>oppression matrix. Think of it that way, like we're all

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<v Speaker 1>in the matrix. Neo intersectionality is the oppression matrix, and

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<v Speaker 1>microaggressions are in some cases the not just subtle but

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<v Speaker 1>unintentional and unknowing infractions of intersectionality. According to the Left,

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<v Speaker 1>like in fractions that add up to intersectionality. So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think necessarily what you're doing is wrong. If you

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<v Speaker 1>say to somebody who has a really funky name and

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<v Speaker 1>it is clearly not American based on their accent, hey

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from? You think that you're asking on

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<v Speaker 1>a college campus. Hey, like you seem like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a cool personal story, and I would like to establish

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<v Speaker 1>some common ground with you as a human being who

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<v Speaker 1>just respects and likes other human beings. So tell me

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<v Speaker 1>where you're from, or tell me something about you, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know where you grew up. Intersectionality and microaggression theory

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<v Speaker 1>tells you how dare somebody assume that you are the other?

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<v Speaker 1>You might say, well, hold on a second, their name

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<v Speaker 1>is really unusual and their accent is really unusual. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good no. You can't make that get you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You don't know they came from some other place,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're by asking them if they come from somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>you are other rising them. Now, I'm sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>would not apply this logic to somebody who's like, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is fence Fence and video rgger like that's fine

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<v Speaker 1>because spens Fencing doesn't fit into intersectional oppression theory, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore microaggressions against sence Fenson don't count. See what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing where we're just we're really getting into how all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, all this stuff ties together for the leftist.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they got into their own definitions of oppression and

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<v Speaker 1>prejudice and privilege and power and social identity and social justice,

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<v Speaker 1>an anti oppression orientation to social and political organizations. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the that is the definition that they use. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>do you do you think? Do you think that we

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<v Speaker 1>are even a little bit done with this common common

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<v Speaker 1>language guide? Folks? Does this all sound common? How many

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<v Speaker 1>of you walk around? And I gosh, like, am I

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<v Speaker 1>intersectional like microaggression theory that I'm reading? Right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like really upsetting me and I feel triggered. I

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<v Speaker 1>need a safe space. You don't use any of those

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<v Speaker 1>words because you're you're not brainwashed by the left. They've

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<v Speaker 1>created a whole separate way of speaking about reality that

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<v Speaker 1>is steeped in a victim mindset, and that uses terms

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<v Speaker 1>that not only signal to other people that they are

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<v Speaker 1>part of the virtuous and good left, but that they

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<v Speaker 1>use these terms because you're supposed to use them, and

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<v Speaker 1>by using them, you are buying into the ideology. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like, instead of saying the legal aliens, say undocumented,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of saying political correctness, talk about intersectionality, and everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going to know what side of that issue you're on,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that political correctness is not something we have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about. Then they get into the isms able ism, ageism,

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<v Speaker 1>six cis, sexism, classism, ethnocentrism, eurocentrism, heterosexism, racism, sexism. They

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<v Speaker 1>have an a guide two isms here. You cannot make

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff up, folks. This is and they're saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is common. How many of you who have ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>or said the word cis? I can't even read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cis sexism, which, if you're wondering, is the system of

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<v Speaker 1>belief that cis gender individuals are the privileged class and

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<v Speaker 1>are more natural, normal, or acceptable then transgender, gender, queer,

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<v Speaker 1>nine bond, non binary, and or gender nonconforming. This belief

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<v Speaker 1>manifests itself as the systematic denial of rights to trans

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<v Speaker 1>and non binary people and their routine mistreatment. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have any issue at all with transgender rights, or

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<v Speaker 1>transgenderism or the transgender transgender agenda, say that ten times fast.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a cis sexist who is admitting microaggressions in

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<v Speaker 1>a system of intersectionality and are opposed to social justice

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<v Speaker 1>and are therefore an accomplice instead of an ally. See

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<v Speaker 1>we did. They're bringing it all together, bringing it all home.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more. The Amherst College president. Remember this is my college.

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<v Speaker 1>I went here. I have very little affiliation with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it has not gone on. Notice that they used

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<v Speaker 1>to love to hear me talk about foreign policy to

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<v Speaker 1>all the kids and invite me up there. And now no,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not get invited up there. They do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear from me because I'm conservative. Therefore it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm the black sheep of the Amherst family.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they pretend that I don't exist. They're not into

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<v Speaker 1>the buster. I want to tell you what happened though

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<v Speaker 1>on campus, because this was so bizarre and so radical

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<v Speaker 1>a document that the president took it down. But just

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that Do you think it stopped their folks? Oh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes on. Let's keep this deep dive going. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're back talking about this college Common Language Guide that

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<v Speaker 1>was put out that is really a piece by piece

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<v Speaker 1>explanation that goes through the words you're supposed to use,

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<v Speaker 1>the very politically charged and very specifically chosen and manufactured

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<v Speaker 1>words and concepts that go along with them that favor

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<v Speaker 1>left wing, very progressive ideology. And here's a there's an

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<v Speaker 1>analysis of it written by Rand Cooper, who's an also

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<v Speaker 1>an Amerst alum, And this just gives you a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what this guide is like. Quote, reading the guide

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<v Speaker 1>is like stumbling into a trade journal article where specialized

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<v Speaker 1>language demarcates territory and warns off intruders, bristling with acronyms

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<v Speaker 1>and niche designations. It elaborates a system of identity via

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<v Speaker 1>a profusion of phyla QTPoC af ab assigned female at

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<v Speaker 1>birth FtM, mx x TX a response by trans folks

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<v Speaker 1>who reject the terms FtM and MTF. I don't, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what this stuff is, and I

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<v Speaker 1>read about this a fair amount. We wander into the

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<v Speaker 1>internal gender politics squabbles, as when we learned that boy,

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<v Speaker 1>a term describing a masculine presenting queer Black woman whose

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<v Speaker 1>gender presentation can be more fluid and or androgynous than

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<v Speaker 1>completely masculine, was purposely coined to be different from stud

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<v Speaker 1>ag aggressive girl because of the rigid conformity to masculinity

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<v Speaker 1>in those communities. Meanwhile, TURF trans exclusionary radical feminist denotes

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<v Speaker 1>feminists who reject trans women because they were once boys.

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<v Speaker 1>While this view has been rejected by most queer and

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<v Speaker 1>trans communities, the guide notes that TURF ideology still does

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrate many women's spaces. End quote. I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what the heck I just read to you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I'm somebody who spends a fair amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time trying to understand the left and leftist ideology,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, trans exclusionary radical feminist. That is my

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<v Speaker 1>first ever experience with that, which which yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we're talking about here. And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>into some other stuff. I mean, this is there is

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<v Speaker 1>a the common language guide, and this does feel very

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<v Speaker 1>soviet in a way. Is the most uncommon language imaginable

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's made up. It's made up language. It's

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<v Speaker 1>words that did not exist until about five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're in a situation where if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>use these terms, who don't understand these terms? You are?

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants who come on class? Who's who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>you are? Ah, yes, that's right. You are part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem because you, my friend, are an accomplice instead

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<v Speaker 1>of an ally Dividing people in this way, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very very powerful tool to get social you know, social obedience.

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<v Speaker 1>This author that wrote is Peace writes another basic problem

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<v Speaker 1>lies in its language. Amorous Guy defines social justice as

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<v Speaker 1>a vision of the world where all people and can

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<v Speaker 1>live and be perceived as fully human on all levels.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this is the vision animating the document, then

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<v Speaker 1>why does it sound so non human? Trapped in its

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<v Speaker 1>arid jargon, one thirst for something resembling living language. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>what we get is an endless proliferation of bureaucratic dicta

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<v Speaker 1>and a roster of attitudes ordained by FIAT, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it may have originated in a search for understanding intolerance

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<v Speaker 1>devolves into a relentless categorization of human experience, driven by

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<v Speaker 1>a nearly compulsive preoccupation with the ways people can and

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<v Speaker 1>wound one another. Yeah, this is language that I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, is meant to shut down debate. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>so fascinating about this. This is language that if you

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<v Speaker 1>use it, you are essentially waiving. The white flag was

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<v Speaker 1>out a microaggression. I don't know, can I say white

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<v Speaker 1>flag not clear? If you embrace the terminology, you are

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<v Speaker 1>accepting all that goes into it. If you don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>or reject the terminology, then you're part of a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so orwelly in and out of control that

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<v Speaker 1>the president of Amherst College, Carolyn Martin, who might I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say I know or have met. The former president

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<v Speaker 1>Amerge used to be Marks was his last name. I

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<v Speaker 1>kid you not, and President Marks at my college graduation

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<v Speaker 1>told all of us instead of Hey, great job, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>here's some advice for the future. That Amherst was not

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<v Speaker 1>living up to its social justice obligations because while you

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<v Speaker 1>guys got to go here, a lot of people with

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<v Speaker 1>less economic means did not, So we need to take

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<v Speaker 1>in more poor people who don't pay. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to say to a whole bunch of people whose

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<v Speaker 1>families and the students with massive student loans and families

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<v Speaker 1>that really, in many cases took quite a hit struggle

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for the tuition. But Carolyn Martin initially took

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<v Speaker 1>it down. This common language guide from Ambers College, where

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<v Speaker 1>you get all the different left wing jargon jammed into

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<v Speaker 1>one document. She took it down. She said that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not something that is going to representative of where

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<v Speaker 1>the school should be ideologically, and you know, she had

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<v Speaker 1>some problems with it, at least the way it was presented.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and roll, fellow patriots, we made ours go up

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven. It's time for roll call, indeed Friday roll call,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bittersweet because bitter sweet symphony. That's life is

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<v Speaker 1>what we have to handle right now. Trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>some money, trying to sell some something. Then you die.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I forget what the you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Mark, It's a good song. Everybody who's my

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<v Speaker 1>age secretly loves Bitter Sweet Symphony. Right, yeah, fun fact

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<v Speaker 1>about that song or not so fun, depending on who

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<v Speaker 1>you are. They sampled some Rolling Stones music in it

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<v Speaker 1>without giving any legal attribution or payment, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Rolling Stones actually own the rights to

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<v Speaker 1>that song. Isn't that pretty crazy? As if the Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>Stones need the cash, But you mess with the Stones,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the rock sun. So they do it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see here we have a first up well that

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<v Speaker 1>is long Buck after three years, is from Thomas of

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<v Speaker 1>ever escalating invasion of our southern border. Don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>it is time we get some direct, real answers from

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<v Speaker 1>the intransigent progressives, simply yes or no answers like the

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<v Speaker 1>ones always insisted on by these snobs at these oversight

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<v Speaker 1>interrogation hearings. Does the US have or not have active

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<v Speaker 1>embassies in Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and Mexico? Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Does the immigration law specify that anyone requesting refugee or

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<v Speaker 1>a silent status apply at the nearest embassy or consulate?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes or no? Would it not be less of an

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<v Speaker 1>encumbrance an expense to transport a dozen lawyers to each

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<v Speaker 1>of those countries to process applications for refugee or asylum

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<v Speaker 1>status rather than have ten thousand of them illegally lawyering

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<v Speaker 1>in our country awaiting status determination, yes or no. Where

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<v Speaker 1>is the benefit of having thirty five million illegals in

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<v Speaker 1>this country absorbing benefits intended for actual US citizens? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are we spending US tax payermoney on third world countries

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<v Speaker 1>that refuse to cooperate with our laws? What is the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of having foreign embassies and consults of citizens of

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<v Speaker 1>foreign countries refuse to comply, etc. Thomas very interesting thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and analysis here. The difference between a asylum claim and

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<v Speaker 1>a refugee claim, I believe is that asylum claims happen

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<v Speaker 1>inside the United States, so you get into you get

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<v Speaker 1>to America and say I want asylum. Refugees apply externally

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<v Speaker 1>to US borders, So that is an important distinction. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>writes Buck good opening on Rising today on Biden's run. Wow,

1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody who is part of team Buck who watches Rising?

1:30:45.360 --> 1:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>That's that's always fun. Why is nobody on either side

1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of the media game talking about Biden and his son

1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>along with then Secretary of State John Kerry and his

1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:57.519
<v Speaker 1>stepson's blatant corruption in Ukraine and China some seriously messed

1:30:57.560 --> 1:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>up stuff that Glenn Beck went into detail on last week. Week.

1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:02.679
<v Speaker 1>No one is picking up on it on any network

1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>outside the Blaze. Well, I can tell you, actually, my

1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>my colleague John Solomon has broken some big stories on

1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>this one. John has been on the forefront of it.

1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So yes, indeed, my colleague John Solomon and the executive

1:31:23.400 --> 1:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>director for Digital to Hill. He has been really the

1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>one pushing this story. And I think Glenn probably picked

1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>up on some of his reporting. But Brian, we talk

1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>about it here on the show. You know, I should

1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>have John on probably next week. Maybe I'll do that.

1:31:38.000 --> 1:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've given me quite an idea, my friend. I

1:31:40.400 --> 1:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>like it. I like it like that, Yeah, baby, I

1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:49.559
<v Speaker 1>like it like that. You guys remember that. I get so,

1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I get so. I like it. Like Mark, that is

1:31:53.160 --> 1:31:55.559
<v Speaker 1>not quite as good of a song, But I refuse

1:31:55.680 --> 1:31:58.679
<v Speaker 1>to believe that you have never had a few shots

1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>off to kill it too many and swayed those hips.

1:32:01.120 --> 1:32:03.719
<v Speaker 1>My friend, Maybe not to that song, but I've done

1:32:03.720 --> 1:32:08.519
<v Speaker 1>that all right, fair enough, fine, be that way. Corey

1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:12.439
<v Speaker 1>rights the chief from the classic Beverly Hills cop that's

1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the quote. Wow, look at you. There's just the man

1:32:15.520 --> 1:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>who wrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club this morning,

1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>who disabled an unmarked unit with a banana. You must

1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>be the pride of your department. If you go listen

1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to that on the YouTube or something, you're gonna say, Wow,

1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton really does sound like that crotchety old police commissioner.

1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You will say that that will be how you feel.

1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Podcast listener just heard the Beverly Hills cop quote Brian

1:32:43.439 --> 1:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Original Saturday Squad. All right, so a lot of you owen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the Beverly Hills cop reference from Thursday's show,

1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>just playing it on Google Play. All right, but alright,

1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:54.479
<v Speaker 1>alright you guys. You know you guys got me here,

1:32:54.520 --> 1:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But savor the flavor. It's not gonna happen again. Well,

1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:00.639
<v Speaker 1>actually know it probably will happen again. TJ rites ps.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Bongino had your rising clip on his podcast this morning.

1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Ye ye, M I gotta I gotta tell you guys something.

1:33:14.280 --> 1:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Dan Bongino has always been a super nice and stand

1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:21.599
<v Speaker 1>up guy to be in this business. And there are

1:33:21.640 --> 1:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>not that many people that I could say that I've

1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>interacted with who have gone out of their way to

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:30.759
<v Speaker 1>be helpful, and you know they're being helpful. So I'm

1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>a I really am a big Dan Bongino supporter. I

1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:37.439
<v Speaker 1>think he's a great dude, and I think it's really

1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>cool to see him have a I mean, he's at

1:33:39.360 --> 1:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a breakout in the last twelve or eighteen months where

1:33:41.280 --> 1:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he's really now built built a Dan Bongino empire, and

1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for him. And he's a great dude, and

1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he has been a behind the scenes friend to Team

1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Buck for for years now. Oh and also DJ wrote

1:33:55.680 --> 1:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>this Buck, go ahead and tell Jamal that his new

1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>nickname for Elizabeth Warren e Ubs is lame. She should

1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>just embrace Pokahonas instead. Her path the nomination just around

1:34:06.920 --> 1:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the Riverband? Huh huh, well, okay, um hmmm. I don't

1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>know if that's gonna work, my friend, I don't know

1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>what just around? Oh? Is that? Is that from the

1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>movie Pocahontas? Mark fact check? Is that from Just Around

1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>the Riverband? Is that from like Pocahonas? I'm in kind

1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of a singing mood today, all right, Taylor Beverly Hills

1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>cop reference, Jeremy Beverly Hills cop reference. All right, all right,

1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:35.599
<v Speaker 1>you guys, Yeah, yeah, you got me. I gotta make

1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a little harder for this team. The movie quotes, the

1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>sly movie quotes maybe aren't sly enough. That is from Pokahontas.

1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>It is from Pocahonas. Just google. I just always know

1:34:45.240 --> 1:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that one that's like, can you sing with all the

1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>voices of the mountain? I'm like, I don't think the

1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:52.639
<v Speaker 1>mountain has voices, and I don't think the wind has

1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>colors with which one can paint. So to paint with

1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>all the colors of the wind, I don't think that

1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. Pokehontas, maybe write some lyrics

1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that makes just putting that out there. Jeremy also writes

1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Bill Deblasio, proposing a green new Deal and regulations

1:35:07.400 --> 1:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>for NYC and hearing about Connecticut's unreasonably high taxes further

1:35:11.439 --> 1:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>reinforces my choice to live in the middle of the country.

1:35:15.360 --> 1:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>I think you should consider moving off the coast and inland,

1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>where your dream four hundred square foot apartment will cost

1:35:20.120 --> 1:35:22.479
<v Speaker 1>about the same as your cell phone bill versus the

1:35:22.479 --> 1:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>cost of a kidney in DC. Just food for thought.

1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Shields high, Jeremy, if we can set up a major

1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>media hub where I can find gainful employment in the

1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of the country. That sounds great to me. In

1:35:38.040 --> 1:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, Unfortunately, I gotta I gotta be where the

1:35:40.320 --> 1:35:42.599
<v Speaker 1>jobs are for somebody in my business, and that tends

1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to be New York and DC. If you're gonna do politics, Kimberly,

1:35:48.280 --> 1:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not usually one to fuss, but I'm making an

1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>exception the podcast. Your voice is so low. I had

1:35:52.920 --> 1:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the volume up in twenty six. Still love you, bunches,

1:35:55.920 --> 1:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Oss Kimberly. Well, Kimberly, I don't think that was a

1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>problem for everybody, so it might just be your setup.

1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you yeah, your nay, but I haven't

1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>heard that from it. Usually when I get three or

1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>four complaints about podcast issue, volume or something, that's usually

1:36:14.880 --> 1:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>on our end. But if it's just one I've only

1:36:16.720 --> 1:36:19.559
<v Speaker 1>seen one today, then it's usually on somebody else. Although

1:36:19.560 --> 1:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Glenn just wrote in here here we go, Glenn, Hey,

1:36:21.600 --> 1:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>podcast listener, I heard you talking about the Avengers movie.

1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to point out that every time I see

1:36:25.800 --> 1:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the movie Captain America Winter Soldier, I can't help but

1:36:28.960 --> 1:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>think how the bad guys Hydra are a textbook definition

1:36:33.080 --> 1:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Democrat Party. They want to eliminate all conservative

1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and potential opposition with their warships. Ask Mark if he

1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>made that connection, Mark, did you make that connection? I

1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>try to separate politics in my fun movies, so no,

1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think of it that way. That's probably a

1:36:52.080 --> 1:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>smart move, dude, you know, because see I have this

1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:57.479
<v Speaker 1>thing where I try to do that as well. But

1:36:57.560 --> 1:37:00.559
<v Speaker 1>if somebody really goes out there as a actor and

1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>says just crazy, annoying things, I can't I don't know.

1:37:04.080 --> 1:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't always let it go, you know. I wish

1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:09.479
<v Speaker 1>I was better with that, but I'm certain actors kind

1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of I mean, Tim Robbins for a while was just insufferable.

1:37:12.280 --> 1:37:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh my friend with the chihuahua that tries to pee

1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>on my foot during the interview, Alissa Milano, that's right,

1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that chihuahua. It smelled conservative on me and tried to

1:37:22.280 --> 1:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>replace it with some other smell. That's what happens. I

1:37:26.680 --> 1:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>don't remember his name. He was a decrepit little chiuaua,

1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>not quite as decrepit as the docks in with the

1:37:31.960 --> 1:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>bad back that tried to bite my face off at

1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the baby shower in New Jersey. Story that many of

1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you have heard perhaps a story I'll have to tell

1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you another time. It's just an important safety tip for

1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>all of you. Just because a dog looks decrepit and

1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>super old doesn't mean without knowing the dog or the

1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>getting the owner's permission, you should try to lift it

1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>up like a baby near your face. It is a

1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>bad move, even with a docsent looks like it could

1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>have a heart attack at any moment. It is not smart.

1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:00.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for to keep you guys safe. Thomas,

1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. The Avengers Superhero. A lot of

1:38:03.040 --> 1:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>movies are subpar at best. I try to like them.

1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I just can't do it. Shields High, I mean, Thomas,

1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to me, the Avenger movie, it's like all this you know,

1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:15.559
<v Speaker 1>noise and you're whoo and all these guys flying around ohoo,

1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff that's going on, and yeah, there's

1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>not a lot beyond that, you know, it's just it's

1:38:22.360 --> 1:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's always I feel like the movie always ends

1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the same way. There's just a lot of you know,

1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:28.519
<v Speaker 1>the Earth is gonna end, but then there's all these

1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:31.240
<v Speaker 1>people flying around or monsters or something, and the Avengers

1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and Hulk is like Hulk strong and like grabs them

1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>thing and smash Hulk smash, and then you got Iron

1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Man who's shooting ray guns out of his hands, out

1:38:40.120 --> 1:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of his out of his you know wherever. Julian, Beverly

1:38:45.280 --> 1:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Hills Cop, you are correct, not a bad impression either,

1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Julian. I think that. I think that Beverly

1:38:50.439 --> 1:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Hills Cop commissioner impression is one of my one of

1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.479
<v Speaker 1>my sleepers, one of my better ones. Wayne Buck love

1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the beard. Thank you so much. Wayne. I appreciate it.

1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are very they're very It's interesting because

1:39:03.160 --> 1:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never been personally subject to this before. They're either

1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>really into the beard or they're like shave. Now. There's

1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:11.519
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of middle ground from the folks that

1:39:11.560 --> 1:39:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I know in life. So that's the thing. Oh it's Friday,

1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>so we've got double roll call. Remember Facebook dot com

1:39:18.160 --> 1:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>slash buck Sexton. If you want to be a part

1:39:20.760 --> 1:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of the roll call action, that is the way to

1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:25.479
<v Speaker 1>do it. You can just write it on Facebook and

1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I always loving people go I don't know if this

1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>is the right place, but I'm gonna write. Trust me,

1:39:29.200 --> 1:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're writing me a Facebook message at Facebook dot

1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>com slashbuck Sexton, it's the right place. I believe my

1:39:34.680 --> 1:39:36.240
<v Speaker 1>friend Rahim Kasam is going to be in for me

1:39:36.240 --> 1:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>on Monday. I'm taking a couple of days of R

1:39:39.479 --> 1:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and R, which I'm very much looking forward to. Hopefully

1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you get some sunshine. But not time for that quite yet.

1:39:45.240 --> 1:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We got a little more roll call on the flip side.

1:39:48.040 --> 1:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Stay with me, seeing Buck, it's time for rollball. It

1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>is time for the role call. The best call is

1:40:18.439 --> 1:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the role call. I guess this is the second role call,

1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so maybe I shouldn't be quite as excited, but I

1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:26.720
<v Speaker 1>get excited. Folks. I like to hear from all of you.

1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Harry sent me a link that I cannot read on

1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>air because it's a link. Roger Buck, my question should

1:40:35.800 --> 1:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>have been more clear the leftist catterwall about student loan

1:40:38.400 --> 1:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>debt and how college should be free. How is it

1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>fair for some to risk their lives to earn their

1:40:42.960 --> 1:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>college education while others do nothing? Shields high. Now, Roger's

1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a very good point, you know. I mean, the GI

1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>bill is earned. The GI Bill is the American people

1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>fulfilling their end of a contract with our brave men

1:40:56.400 --> 1:40:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and women who serve this country in the military. Right,

1:40:59.680 --> 1:41:02.519
<v Speaker 1>That's that's an earned thing. That's not a giveaway. That's

1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I give you money, you give me apples. Right,

1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>This is a transaction, and if you don't give somebody

1:41:08.120 --> 1:41:11.679
<v Speaker 1>money for their apples, that's not good. We owe this

1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to those who served. That's a different thing than people saying, wow,

1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I just think it'd be nice to give free college

1:41:18.000 --> 1:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to folks. Victor Or as hey Buck not familiar with

1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon faith, ay, I recommend going to see the

1:41:25.160 --> 1:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Book of Mormon on Broadway. It'll tell you everything you

1:41:27.680 --> 1:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>need to know. Plus it's absolutely the funniest thing I've

1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:33.559
<v Speaker 1>seen since Team America World Police. I'm sure their temples

1:41:33.560 --> 1:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>are swell. Still no comparison to European Catholic cathedrals and churches.

1:41:36.920 --> 1:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Shields High. Love you, Victor. Victor, I can tell you

1:41:39.960 --> 1:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I did see the Book of Mormon, and I remember

1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>when my former boss and now longtime friend and mister

1:41:47.320 --> 1:41:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Glenn Beck saw the Book of Mormon, and I remember

1:41:49.720 --> 1:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>hearing them talk about it a bit. I thought it

1:41:52.960 --> 1:41:55.639
<v Speaker 1>was a little profane. I thought it was a little

1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:58.559
<v Speaker 1>there was a little too much cursing for me. I mean,

1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not somebody who is proof, but I do think

1:42:01.120 --> 1:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that there there are some limits, and I didn't love

1:42:05.360 --> 1:42:07.679
<v Speaker 1>it as much as a lot of other people. So

1:42:08.760 --> 1:42:15.240
<v Speaker 1>there is that. Mary writes, I just fell in love

1:42:15.280 --> 1:42:18.519
<v Speaker 1>with you, Billy, I mean Buck. Oh Mary, look at

1:42:18.560 --> 1:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you with your own Beverly Hills Cop quote throwing that

1:42:21.760 --> 1:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>my way. I like it, Mary, I wish your show

1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>would do a special investigative report on members of Congress

1:42:27.520 --> 1:42:29.599
<v Speaker 1>who owe the i RS tax money and are behind

1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>on their payments. Mary. I like that you're coming up

1:42:33.080 --> 1:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>with ideas for the show, but I gotta tell you,

1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that one specifically is gonna turn

1:42:39.720 --> 1:42:42.879
<v Speaker 1>out the masses. If you know what I mean, David,

1:42:43.479 --> 1:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna fall for the banana the tailpipe, Rosewood.

1:42:47.000 --> 1:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great work. Buck, You guys really, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of Beverly Hills Cop fans in this audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that dude, you guys. Uh yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie writes, you are a talented analyst and talk show host.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't sing man who let the dogs out? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>oh sorry, Katie, I know it's terrible. It's terrible. I

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<v Speaker 1>should code read myself. Let's see Pablo rights, Buck, it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny when you said that Biden should do the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>An hour prior to that, I just watched the Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>episode the opposite. Biden could run on that premise alone.

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<v Speaker 1>He could give it a good run. Shield side. Thanks, Pablo.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, if you're talking about foreign policy

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<v Speaker 1>and you do whatever the opposite is of whatever Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden wants you to do, you're gonna be in real

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<v Speaker 1>good shape. You know, you're you're gonna you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>right a lot more than you're wrong. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>an important one. Jonathan writes, When you were at the border,

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<v Speaker 1>did anyone ever mention the correlation between the surgeon caravan

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and the surge and the drug a drug epidemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I read in the Washingtimes the cartels are using the

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<v Speaker 1>caravans as a distraction all the border patrols overwhelmed doing

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<v Speaker 1>humanitarian work. The cartels sneak through their stuff, an age

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<v Speaker 1>old military tactic where you offer a diversion while the

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<v Speaker 1>real job is being done. In fact, to be stupid

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<v Speaker 1>for the cartels not to do it, Jonathan, the cartels

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent are doing that. I know they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Border patrol told me they're doing that. It happens on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. They know what's happened. There's nothing they

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<v Speaker 1>can do about it, though. They have to process. If

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<v Speaker 1>they get three hundred people to turn themselves in at

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<v Speaker 1>once in the border, they have to process. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to check them for medical issues. They have to take

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<v Speaker 1>them the hospital if need be. They got to get

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<v Speaker 1>them food. They can't say, oh, no, we see a

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<v Speaker 1>truck two miles down, We got to stop and leave

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<v Speaker 1>you guys alone here. And no, if they leave them alone,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what then they can just run into the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not how it works anyway. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much team for joining me here on this fantastic freestyle Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be talking to you all on Tuesday. Please

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<v Speaker 1>tell somebody about the show this weekend. Be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this guy on podcast, Buck Sexton. He's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fun sometimes, except when he sings Shield's Eye.